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Speaker 1: M all right, welcome to the State of the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Like dass Readio, thank you guys so much for coming

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Speaker 1: to hang out on a Thursday. Oh my goodness, I

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Speaker 1: I cannot even begin to describe how frustrated I am

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Speaker 1: with this team. I thought for sure tonight would be

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Speaker 1: the first of these. I sent out a video earlier

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Speaker 1: today talking about you know these little championship checkpoints, these markers,

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Speaker 1: these tendencies, these games, these moments that always are like

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Speaker 1: the bell weathers of the indicators of a team that

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Speaker 1: has championship aspirations, And we saw so many of those

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers, right like they would very rarely lose

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Speaker 1: two games in a row. They would very uh they

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Speaker 1: You know, there were be these you know that they

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Speaker 1: took specific matchups personally, there were there were the day

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Speaker 1: to day effort stuff was above and beyond, which you

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Speaker 1: saw elsewhere in the league. They're all of those check

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Speaker 1: points were met and were checked off by that team.

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Speaker 1: And with this team, they've missed every single one of

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Speaker 1: those checkpoints. And I thought tonight was a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: get that boat rolling in the right direction. And what's

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Speaker 1: funny is Memphis. We all knew coming into tonight that

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Speaker 1: Memphis was a good team. You know, we knew, we

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Speaker 1: knew that even without John Morant, they defended extremely high

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Speaker 1: level that we knew that they were young, that they

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Speaker 1: were athletic, that they played big. We knew, we know

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Speaker 1: at home they're tough to be We knew this was

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Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game. This is the kind of

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Speaker 1: game that the championship teams go up into Memphis and

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Speaker 1: they win, and once again, they just couldn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into details here in a second. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for coming to hang out with us. Rose,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing so far? How's your redrowing so far?

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Speaker 1: It's going all right. You know, it felt really positive

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Speaker 1: after the Boston win, and again we said those those

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Speaker 1: be the game that turns the season around, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of positive energy around the team. We had

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Speaker 1: a super positive podcast after it. Most of the Laker

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Speaker 1: can kind of throw a lot of that out right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's still some good stuff you can take

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Speaker 1: from it, but it's just this one just feels awful.

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Speaker 1: The body language was awful. I'll just take people behind

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Speaker 1: the curtains a little bit. So so after, you know,

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Speaker 1: before every before we start these spaces every time, and

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Speaker 1: Jason text back and forth and and uh, he said

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Speaker 1: I said that's fine, And you said, I hate this team,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like that's kind of that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the energy I see from the timeline as well. Right

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Speaker 1: this it's becoming a real hate relationship with this team.

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Speaker 1: You know how you say love, Hey, it's becoming a

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Speaker 1: real hate relationship with this team. And we can go

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Speaker 1: all the spacing that's awful, even though Avery Bradley actually

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Speaker 1: but the body language I thought was just awful from tonight.

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Speaker 1: So that was my main thing. I hated the energy

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Speaker 1: that we came out with. Other than Lebron, we were

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Speaker 1: where we beat ourselves and Memphis just punked us, Steven

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Speaker 1: the rebound, Like it was just an awful game to watch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know where we go from here.

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Speaker 1: Scorings with your whole team healthy besides Trevor Reason and

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn is inexcusable to me, Like that's just that

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Speaker 1: leaves an awful taste in your mouth, very little positive

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Speaker 1: You have to be the smart basketball team. You have

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into Anthony Davis because this was

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Speaker 1: one of the most frustrating games that I've seen with him,

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Speaker 1: but just foundationally from the top down, because Lebron was

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Speaker 1: And the point being, you can't go on the road

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Speaker 1: but that was the big thing that stood out to

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Speaker 1: against the young team. Yeah, it felt like a lot

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Speaker 1: of effort mistakes and the turnovers are awful. It felt

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Speaker 1: that made no sense. And give the Grizzlies credit like

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Speaker 1: They had thirteen at halftime. A lot of that really

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Speaker 1: just I just hated the body language though. From tonight

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Speaker 1: still isn't great. I still don't understand it. I still

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Speaker 1: don't understand Avery Bradley being you know, thrown into this.

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Speaker 1: The spacing is still awful, and the body language I

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Speaker 1: like you said we were the dumpty tonight, I thought

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Speaker 1: but he was like, he was awesome and he outworked us.

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Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, and this has been something that's

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Speaker 1: been a problem with Anthony Davis since the start. He's

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Speaker 1: just not much of a self starter. He doesn't you know,

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Speaker 1: he is the biggest reason why he's always going to

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Speaker 1: be a number two. And this is something that I

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Speaker 1: as as his basketball character is that of a number two,

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Speaker 1: he is a follower, not a leader. He gets wrapped

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Speaker 1: seven or eight going into the fourth, and I thought

431
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: that was kind of it, Like I did not see

432
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 1: them coming back and winning this one. And that's that's

433
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 1: been kind of the theme of this season. And you

434
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: could tell Vogelos trying to experiment. He went with Dwight

435
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 1: Howard to start to start the second half, which helped.

436
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: Like I thought, two bigs actually fakes sense. For tonight, right,

437
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: the Grizzly start this two big line up with Jaren

438
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: Jackson and step Steven Adams, Like tonight's to night where

439
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 1: two bigs would actually make sense. It's just a lot

440
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 1: of experimenting going around going on. I hated Wayne Allington

441
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 1: got some minutes, but he would play next to like

442
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 1: THHD and Avery Bradley, so he's the only shooters from Memphis.

443
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 1: Throws two at him. So you see Wayne Ellington a

444
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 1: lot tonight, like would jump to shoot, but like there's

445
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: two guys on him, so he has to jump. He

446
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: has to like shoot and jump past. You saw that

447
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 1: like three times tonight. There's a lot of lineups that

448
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: don't make sense. This team is in a really weird

449
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: funk here, really weird moment. I thought the Boston game

450
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: we got a lot of positives, and tonight we just

451
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: kind of threw that away because there was super careless

452
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 1: in the first half and Memphis came and took the

453
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: game away. But I don't know where we go from here.

454
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 1: They play I think Orlando to they put Orlanto tomorrow.

455
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: O see okay, see tomorrow. So I mean, that's again

456
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: a winnable game, but you just don't know what this team.

457
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: They've lost all the benefit of the doubt. But yeah,

458
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: like I don't, I don't really know where they go.

459
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: We went back to the two bits to start the

460
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: second happen, but just let's let's let's stay there because

461
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: you because I I thought that was the microcosm of

462
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: of everything that was wrong with the situation. Because our

463
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: starters looked fantastic. Yea. We literally were defending and getting

464
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: out in transition and scoring. And you say, okay, Memphis

465
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: plays big. Well, okay, what what happens to the Lakers

466
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: when they play big? Usually the other team inevitably just

467
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: the paint waits for you to miss jump shots and

468
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: tries to get in a foot race with you because

469
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: they know that you're slow. You're playing too many big guys.

470
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, even at as a power forward, is not

471
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: super quick, especially when there's a wing across from him,

472
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: and teams would just race us up and down the

473
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: floor and get easy shots. And so why aren't we

474
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: trying to do that to Memphis? That's literally what we

475
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: did in the first quarter and it was working, and yes,

476
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: did we get killed on the glass over the course

477
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: of the rest of the half, yes, But that's not

478
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: an adjustment you make with the starters. That's an adjustment

479
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: you make with your other lineups. That was the part

480
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: that was confusing to me. In the first half. Our

481
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 1: starting lineup was our best group. Now we can, you know,

482
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: go back and forth about Avery Bradley. To me, that's

483
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: so so so far down on the list of problems.

484
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: But like the starting line it was not the issue.

485
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: So when I saw that, when I saw Frank make

486
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Speaker 1: that adjustment, I immediately thought to myself, like, Anthony Davis

487
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: and Frank just can't help themselves. Like I guarantee you

488
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: somewhere in the halftime huddle or in the halftime locker

489
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: room meeting, either Frank brought it up or Anthony Davis

490
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: brought it up, but they're like, we we need to

491
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: we need to go big because we're getting hurt on

492
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the glass. And it's and it's like, I bet you

493
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: there's just this big breath of you know, fresh air

494
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: for Anthony Davis to be like, all right, Dwight's gonna

495
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: box out. Stephen. I don't have to. And it's like, man,

496
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: that's your advantage. They're playing big. They're playing big because

497
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: they lost another wing to COVID today with Dylan Brooks,

498
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: like you you have. If they're gonna play big, we

499
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: have to be the fast team then, you know what

500
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean? And it just was I hated that that

501
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: ideological shift there because like again like playing Dwight Howard

502
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: alongside Russell Westbrook as a disaster offensively. Now, yes, the

503
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: Lakers uh went down and got a couple of baskets

504
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: to start the third quarter, but immediately after they took

505
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: that two point leader, I think they were up. Immediately

506
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: after that, we started losing shooters and transition while guys

507
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: were jogging back. That was the inevitable outcome. Memphis was

508
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: going to be able to push the pace on us.

509
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: And you know, and and one of the problems too

510
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: with Anthony Davis when he goes to the four is

511
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: we had actions where he's rolling to the ram or

512
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: he'll crash the offensive glass. So usually when the shot

513
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: has missed, both Dwight Nadine are under the rim and

514
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: the other eight guys are sprinting the other way. It's

515
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: like starting behind the eight ball. I just I just

516
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: didn't like that ideologically, But again, like going down the

517
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: roster like and this is where it's one of those

518
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: things where if you looked at this game in a

519
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: vacuum and the Lakers were playing awesome all season, you

520
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: might look at this and you might say, hey, is

521
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: a tough road game, young team, mellow had a bad night,

522
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: Malik Monk had a bad night. Maybe we just you know,

523
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: Lebron was awesome. A d had a rough night, Rough

524
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: had a rough let's just throw it out. It's because

525
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: of the larger picture that this is so upsetting when

526
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: you're like, for instance, Golden State lost at home to

527
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: San Antonio the other day, that you can totally forgive

528
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: one of those every once in a while, when the

529
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: character of the team has shown over the course of

530
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: the season, that that doesn't happen often. But they knew

531
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: coming into this game that it was gonna be tough.

532
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: They knew coming into this game that they really had

533
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: to win it in order to change the perception around

534
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: the team. And they knew coming into this game and

535
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: that they were going to have to bring a certain

536
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: amount of effort, a certain amount of execution, like I

537
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: got a conversation with Cranes about this the other day

538
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: because we were talking about you know, there's there's like

539
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: a there's like a spectrum of Laker fans blaming effort,

540
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: and there's people on the left who are like, everything's

541
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: effort related, which I disagree with, and then there's people

542
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: like Cranes, who, respectfully I disagree with. He's kind of

543
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: like everything's process, everything scheme, everything is blah blah blah,

544
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: efforts playing little to no role here. I'm kind of

545
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: in the middle, like, I absolutely see those issues, but

546
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: effort is absolutely part of the issue here, and I

547
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: can't I can't continue to gloss over that. You're again,

548
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to match Memphis effort, but

549
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: you're more talented than Memphis. You have the two best

550
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: players on the floor, arguably the three best players on

551
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: the floor. Actually, screw that, they had the three best

552
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: players on the floor. No matter how you feel about

553
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, he's better than everybody on Memphis. And so

554
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: if you you just had to bring a certain amount

555
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: of thatfort and that effort also involves focus. Taking care

556
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: of the basketball, to me, is an effort thing because

557
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: it requires you to be alert and paying attention to

558
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: what's happening around you and making sound decisions and being careful.

559
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: That is an effort thing as well. To me, When

560
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: the effort pulls back, the focus pulls back. When the

561
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: focus pulls back, that's when mental errors start taking place.

562
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: When the mental errors start taking place, that's when you

563
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: start letting this young team get out on the run.

564
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: And it was only a matter of time from there.

565
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: It was like hemorrhaging possessions. But yeah, I don't know

566
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: how you can gloss over the fact that you know,

567
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you're doing this, but I mean,

568
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: I I can't. I can't imagine how anybody could watch

569
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: this team and not see the serious basketball character issue

570
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: that they're not willing to do the work that you

571
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: have to do to win these kinds of games. Yeah,

572
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: it definitely felt like they came in tonight and thought

573
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: this would be an easy one, especially when they went

574
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: up nine. I just saw the total engagement drop off

575
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: from everyone, and I think that's a team wide issue.

576
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: But I guess we can kind of go more into

577
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: the details here because I think there is process stuff

578
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: that's going wrong, and and again like you said, is

579
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: it you know, is an effort? Is it excell and

580
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: knows and schemes. I think it's somewhere in the middle.

581
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: I think. Then they talked about it in his space earlier,

582
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: which he did a great job kind of explaining how

583
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: there's a human element to all of this, right, Like,

584
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: you can't mix bad scheme with you can mix the

585
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: best scheme and if you have no effort, then it's

586
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: not gonna work. And you can you can have the

587
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: best scheme and no effort, it's not gonna work. Right,

588
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: you need both to kind of intertwine here. And there's

589
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: still stuff that is just really confusing me, really confusing

590
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: to me, Like everything this whole night we were doing

591
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: like offensive defense stubs, which which really made no sense

592
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: to me. The th h t every badly coming in

593
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: and out. I thought that really messed with our team.

594
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: I thought the spacing again was awful. The two two

595
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: big lineup, like you talked about, they did a great

596
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: job early. I thought it messed with Memphis. I thought

597
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: it was a nice switch up, a nice like curveball

598
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: to throw at them. And then once they went a

599
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: little bit small, I think they went with Jaren Jackson

600
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: at the five and that just that just run us

601
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: out of the gym. We were again down like six

602
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: or seven. We're doing an awful job going around screens.

603
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: But again, like tonight, I don't even know where to

604
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: where to go with this, Like I think it's effort

605
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: and scheme combined, and I don't know. I think Bogelo

606
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: has to choose one, right, like there has to be

607
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: a lineup that he has to He has to go

608
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: with the lineup that makes sense. And I feel like

609
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: the spacing in the starting lineup messes with the whole game.

610
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: Russ plays in a phone booth. Russ place in a

611
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: phone booth to start, and that just coincides with the

612
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: whole game. And I feel like he didn't get going

613
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: too late. Lebron Lebron was going early. But man, I'm

614
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: getting lost in my words here. I don't even I

615
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: don't even know where to go with this. It spicking

616
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: in identity like that, that's the thing. Someone someone tweeted out,

617
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: I think it was it was Michael Taylor if I

618
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: remember correctly, but someone tweeted out after that first run, man,

619
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: this is like that, this looks like Lakers and and

620
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: you know a certain amount of that you can expect

621
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: to see when you play a line up that literally

622
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: has four guys that were on the Lakers and you know,

623
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, you know, like if it's if it's Dwhite,

624
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: A d Lebrono and and and Avery Bradley, that's a

625
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: bunch of former Lakers, you know, so like that that

626
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: that's to be expected. But the problem is is we

627
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: don't really have the personnel to play that style for

628
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes. We just don't. We have. This is

629
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: kind of to that versatility conversation we were having earlier

630
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: in the summer. It's like, we have groups that can

631
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: play like the Lakers, but the vast majority of our

632
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: groups are gonna play like a kind of like a

633
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: hybrid version of that mixed with like the Los Angeles Clippers,

634
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: a really slow team, excuse me, a really small team

635
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: that spaces the floor and thrives on dribble penetration, which

636
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: is something that that that I've been harping on all

637
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: season long. And so it's that that's kind of where fundamentally,

638
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: like you were talking about, like Russ never got his rhythm. Well,

639
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: does that is that related to the fact that Frank

640
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: is kind of prioritizing kind of a structure that resembles

641
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Lakers probably to some extent. Although Russ has found enough openings,

642
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: you know he I just kept waiting for him to

643
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: have aventually kind of breakthrough tonight because that's kind of

644
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: the way it's been with him all season. But for

645
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: whatever reason, it didn't happen tonight. I can't dive too

646
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: much into the to the to the Russ part of it, because,

647
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: like I said, it's super lame. I think I think

648
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna probably see some national media and some people

649
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: who don't know any better really really go after Russ

650
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours, and that's really unfortunate

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: because he doesn't deserve that at all. He's been amazing

652
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: as of late. Um. But again, like it's it's very

653
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: possible that these things are all tied to each other,

654
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, Like for us, this last stretch of games

655
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: has been really good in third quarters, so for you

656
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: to randomly go big in the third quarter, it's very

657
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: possible that that is partially responsible for disrupting things. But

658
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: it felt like there were several stretches tonight where the

659
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: Lakers tried to get kick started where they did a

660
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: couple of stops and they get out and transition and

661
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: try to get something going, but then they would turn

662
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: the ball over like they just kept shooting themselves in

663
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the foot. And you know, you talked about the body language.

664
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: I thought that in the middle of this third quarter,

665
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the belief left the Lakers, the the idea that they

666
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: thought they could win, exited the building and from there

667
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of like just going through the motions

668
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: and and and that and that that's really unfortunate. But again,

669
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: like what's frustrating is like how many times can this

670
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: happen to you? How many times can you get pumped

671
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: before something wakes up inside of you? And I really

672
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: I really don't know who, don't know what what, like

673
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: what it's going to take at this point, because we

674
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: know what's in there. We literally saw them do it

675
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: against Boston the other night. I mean, we've had what's

676
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: so bizarre about this most recent stretches, it's like unbelievable

677
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: performance on the road in Sacramento, beating the ship out

678
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: of the Kings without Lebron awesome like like momentous way

679
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: and coming right back home to to drop one of

680
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: the Clippers, uh in a game that was extremely frustrating

681
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: on a bunch of different levels, and the Lakers played

682
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: huge starting lineups again and it was super confusing. And

683
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: then you come back on Sunday, and you're on Tuesday

684
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: and you man handle the Celtics and you look fantastic,

685
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: and then you come back tonight. So I guess if

686
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: you're looking for a silver lining, the good games have

687
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: been coming more frequently, I guess, but they still can't

688
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: string anything together. And to me, that's a basketball character thing.

689
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know how you fix that, Raj,

690
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: Like I'd like you know, foundationally, this team requires Lebron

691
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: and a D to both be top five players. Now

692
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: we're coming off at two straight games where Lebron's at

693
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: least in that conversation right where on both ends of

694
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: the floor, he's looking like himself, but for whatever reason,

695
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: a D s lagging behind. And I don't know, I

696
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know what it takes. Like remember do you remember

697
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the season when I said he has never

698
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: played four team games in a row since since before

699
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: the bubble, Well, yeah, he's been. He's played all but

700
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: one game this season, man, Like like how much more

701
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: time does he need to build his rhythm? How much

702
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: more time does he need to get in shape? How

703
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: much more time does he need to build up to

704
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: where he was? I mean, I think we're reaching a

705
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: point now where we can no longer make excuses for him.

706
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: They played small for the vast majority of the time

707
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: with him as of late too, So I mean, I

708
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: look like to your point, I don't know. I don't

709
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: know where we go from here. I don't know where

710
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like what else can you throw at

711
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: a d right now to try to get him going? Like?

712
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: Is this is? Is it as simple as Lebron has

713
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: to privately like confront him, Like honestly, what do you do?

714
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Like he's had the minutes, he's had the reps, he's

715
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: had the rhythm, he's had the lineups, and it's just

716
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: not materializing in my opinion. Yeah, and well, for first

717
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: of all, like that stat you point out where he

718
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: only missed one game game, that's the most important stat, Frady, right,

719
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Like if adis out of this team has no chance anyway,

720
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: Like you can you can call him about how eighties

721
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: played and you know him and even I have said

722
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: he needs to be more aggressive. But if ads, you know,

723
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: not playing, then this team is going nowhere. But I

724
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: just bent about Wayne Allington really quick because I know

725
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: we're going to close this and about in a couple

726
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: of minutes here. Um, but yeah, my my issue with this.

727
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: And then again Vinet hit about this in his space

728
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: as well, like I feel like he's the perfect guy

729
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: to kind of fit in that starting lineup to me,

730
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: like he's a veteran, he knows his job. And I

731
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: posted that clip or him and Lebron had that ghost

732
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: screen right where, like that's just something that plays into

733
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: what Lebron does and also it fits with Russ as well.

734
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: And I'm just looking at Wayne Ellington's stats um here

735
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: for the last few games against Boston twenty minutes six

736
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: tonight twenty minutes, six shots, Boston fourteen minutes, four shots,

737
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's not enough. And I feel like

738
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: he has more gravity than we're using with him. And

739
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: again I don't Wayne Ellington is in a championship life

740
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: saving player. I just think like the issue with him

741
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: not playing kind of fits a larger issue with this

742
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: team with an identity issues that they have with the

743
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: offense issue that they have, Like there's a lot of

744
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: times waynel Wayne elling to me, is a gunner, right, Like,

745
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: he's a guy where if you get him enough, you

746
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: get him the ball enough, he's gonna fire. And we

747
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: use him as like an eighteen seventies arrow, you know

748
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, we we use him as like

749
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: an old fashioned arrow where we just throw him in

750
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: the corner and we're like, you just stand there and

751
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: wait till the hell comes and then we throw him

752
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: the ball and he gets into a shet shot. But

753
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington is a shooter, like a legit shooter. To me,

754
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. Would you agree He's one

755
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: of the best shooters in the league, just pure shooters.

756
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: He can't defend, obviously, and that's why he's on a

757
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: minimum contract. Go look at the prices of shooters around

758
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: the league. Go look at what Duncan Robinson just got

759
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: from with the Miami Again, Dugcan Robbin's a taller player,

760
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: probably a better defender. YadA, YadA, YadA. Go look at

761
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: what real shooters cost in this league. We have a

762
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: guy on the minimum deal, and to me, his defense

763
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: is never gonna be great, but he plays enough. He

764
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: plays hard, enough to me, he's in the right spots

765
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: enough to me, like we just don't. We don't use

766
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: the weapons that we have and to what they are,

767
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: we turned them into these seventy arrows. Blake Monk, to me,

768
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: shows a lot more than we we give him credit for.

769
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a better ball handler, better score than

770
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: we need to like those guys need to play. And

771
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: again tonight, I thought what summarized the game to me?

772
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: When Allington came in and I was all excited even

773
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: though we were down thirteen with five minutes left, we

774
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: had a We had him with the big three, and

775
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: I thought they haven't played any minutes. Tonight I was corrected.

776
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: They played nine minutes for the season. I was wrong

777
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: with Yeah, I was so wrong. They played nine total minutes,

778
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: not nineteen total possessions. I was wrong tonight they played

779
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: ten seconds together like that. I can't have your best

780
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: shooter should be playing next to your big three, who

781
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: are all guys who are non shooters, Like, I just

782
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: don't understand why he can't, why we don't at least

783
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: try this and again everybody they came in for defensive issues,

784
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: for for defense, for offense, we got killed the Memphis.

785
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: I think Memphis scored like four strade times. And again,

786
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: it's not every Bradley's fault. I'm not blaming him. Maybe

787
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: proably had a good game tonight, it's just the process

788
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: isn't right. Every badly hitting four threes. So the defense

789
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: doesn't care like they're going to continue leave him, ok.

790
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: And And I just think that's stuff that we can know.

791
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: Those are fixes that we can do right. We can't

792
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: change the roster. We're not trading Russ stuff. Police stop

793
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: at police stop mentioning that to me, trade Russ or

794
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, again, the coach can be fired. I just

795
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: I think that's a I think that's a band aid

796
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: on a large issue, honestly. But but still like I

797
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: think those are those are things that are fixable. And

798
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: the way to Ellington kind of is the face of

799
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the kind of internal issues that I

800
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: see with the team where we're not picking an identity,

801
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: we're trying to do both. And Wayne Ellington playing with

802
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: th Ht and Avery Bradley like, you're like, I don''t

803
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: know how to I don't even know analogy for it,

804
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't make sense to me. So you

805
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: have Wayne Ellington out there with Lebron. I believe it

806
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: was Lebron. Uh, maybe it was a d Avery Bradley

807
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: and th HD. So way, now that's the only shooter.

808
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: They sent two at him, and you see him do

809
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: these jump passes and that's not his game and we

810
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: need to open the stuff up for him. Again, when

811
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: is a minimum player is not going to change the world.

812
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: It's just to me, he represents a bigger issue on

813
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing with the team. Well, and again it's

814
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: about leaning industry um. Like like we talked about, like

815
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: the minute you went the route of playing Russell Westbrook,

816
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: you compromised your spacing to a certain extent that made

817
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: it so that your past a breaking point with trying

818
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: to play Vogel ball. So for for instance, in the playoffs,

819
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: you literally saw a team that wasn't playing Russell Westbrook,

820
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: playing guys who were actually okay shooters like k Cpu

821
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: and like Kyle Kuzman and even out even Alex Crucer

822
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: had a good three point shooting season last year. But

823
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: you saw that tilt so far to where Dennis Shooter

824
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: and Lebron had no ability to get to the basket.

825
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: And I did like everyone was talking about how Lebron

826
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: looked so bad in that series is one of the

827
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: few times where you know, I just I couldn't blame him,

828
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Like I could get a touch on the wing and

829
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: there were just the three bodies standing right in front

830
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: of there was no opportunity to drive. When you decided

831
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: to to take on Russell us Broad, you went even

832
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: further in that, in that direction favoring your physical presence

833
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: over the spacing of the team. So you went out

834
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: and you found these shooters. That's great. You have to

835
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: play at least one of them at all times, and

836
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: preferably too. And that's where that's where with the starting

837
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: lineup you just from an identity standpoint, playing Avery Bradley

838
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: or th HD or both of them instead of at

839
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: least one of those shooters doesn't make any sense because

840
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: you're just you're you're keeping I would talking about having

841
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: one ft in the moment one in the future when

842
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: teams are building, and how stupid I think that is.

843
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: It's the same concept with the identity, like Frank has

844
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: one foot stuck in and then he's got this other

845
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: foot or it's like like remember when remember when he

846
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: like started just doing that Lebron at the center lineup,

847
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: which was like, Okay, it was fun, it was gimmicky.

848
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: You could do that to mix things up, or as

849
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: a specific matchup tool against a team that doesn't have

850
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: any size when you're going super small or whatever. Yeah,

851
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But the idea that would become your

852
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: consistent rotation like every beginning of every second and fourth

853
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: quarter when you literally have Dwight Howard on the bench

854
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: like that just made absolutely no sense. It was like,

855
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: it's like half a franc is like super like cool

856
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: and forward thinking and progressive basketball Frank, and then the

857
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: other half of Frank is like retro nine eighties, we're

858
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: packing the paint, Frank, you know what I mean. Like

859
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 1: it just it just doesn't make any sense having those

860
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: two separate identities. You, you know, picks one thing that

861
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: you're really really good at and lean into it. You're

862
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna have enough curve balls just by virtue of how

863
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: good your star players are, you know, play your shooters

864
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: lean heavily into driving kick basketball, which is something that

865
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Lebron and Russ have been the best at their entire careers.

866
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is always going to be able to find

867
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: a way to fit in with that because of what

868
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. With the skill set leaning

869
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: to that, you're inevitably your defense will be good enough.

870
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: Like tonight the Lakers couldn't score, and like we always say,

871
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: a point per possession defense in the half court is

872
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: way more effective than they are in transition, and so

873
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: it has to be factored in when you're choosing lineups.

874
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: When you're it's like the concept you're talking about offense defense.

875
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: The reason why you do offense defense stubs in crunch

876
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: time is because you're expecting a stoppage after every play.

877
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: The reason why you like like in in a game,

878
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: when you choose to prioritize defensive personnel, you have to

879
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: expect a great deal of missed shots that will lead

880
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: to your defense being stuck in the backcourt or two

881
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: or not being fully set as the other team attacks

882
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: you in the other direction. By playing really good offense

883
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: and scoring the basketball, you get to set up your defense.

884
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: This was what made Brooklyn so genius Brooklyn last season.

885
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: They ran incredible offense, They scored on you almost every time,

886
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: and then they got back on defense. They set up

887
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: and they switched everything and just waited for you to

888
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: try to is so one of their lesser defenders while

889
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: you have all these health defenders waiting. It was genius.

890
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: It was genius because it understood modern basketball like that,

891
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: that's what's killing you with Frank right now. Just like

892
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: I thought in the start of the second started the

893
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: second half, we got killed in transition mainly for three is.

894
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: I think they got one lay up, but they mainly

895
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: for threes. Guys just jogging back because you're playing a

896
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: slow lineup and you can't score it. Just it like,

897
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: I'll be preaching at this all season until they finally

898
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: start doing it. But this team has to lean into

899
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: what they're good at and what they're good at his offense,

900
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: lean into that if you score the basketball, you have

901
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: a much better chance of getting stops. It's really that simple.

902
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: It's really that simple. And and that's why I like

903
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: when Frank is looking at the data and everyone's like

904
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: why is he still playing at swy Z when the

905
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: defensive ratings sucks. Frank will tell you, oh, like, well,

906
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: our process is good, so we know that this number

907
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: will eventually come down. And it's like, yeah, but Frank,

908
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: is it gonna come down? Is it gonna come down

909
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: if you're missing jump shots every time on the other

910
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: end of the floor, and your defense is never set

911
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: because even if you believe in this concept as a defense,

912
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: it only functions when everyone's in the right spot and

913
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: no one's in the right spot in transition, and everyone

914
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: in the modern NBA is in transition on every misshot.

915
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: That's just how they that's just how every offensive coach teaches.

916
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Push the ball, Push the ball, push the ball. They're

917
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: gonna make you pay for that anyway. I'm done, then think, Yeah,

918
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: I guess the last thing I Canna wrote down here

919
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: is I think it's strange that our starting lineup is

920
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: the one that has the least amount of spacing for

921
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: our superstars, right, And I think that's just a process

922
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: issue that I'm I'm kind of dealing with here. Like

923
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: if you look at it, like our our second unit

924
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: spacing isn't bad, Like we wanted to russ d why

925
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: with like Mellow Monk, and I think like Elegant or

926
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: someone else, like that's that's okay. But I feel like

927
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: we're starting these games the first quarter and the third

928
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: quarters there are really just killing us. We're down almost

929
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: every time our defense is okay, but I feel like

930
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: teams start to run on us, and that's just a

931
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: process thing that I think has to be fixed. I

932
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: think a D at the five is definitely a start

933
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: to that. And again I've gotten into a D And

934
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to be unfair to him because I

935
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: feel like he's had a pretty good season throughout. It's

936
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: just I thought tonight his body language wasn't great. But

937
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean I thought throughout the season, you know, again

938
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: he's leading in points of the paint, dunks and all

939
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: that stuff. With spacing that's not conductive to him. But

940
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, like I feel like that's my biggest issue

941
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: here is this Our starting lineup has the worst spacing

942
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: of any of our line ups, which I think is

943
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: an issue. Like I think that's it's fundamental problem that

944
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: are superstars are not in their right places and our

945
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: starting lineup having a negative net rating through the season,

946
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna get worse from tonight. Like

947
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a problem that needs to be fixed. We're like,

948
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: what twenties something games in now and our starting lineup

949
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have a positive net rating, Like I think that's

950
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: again a lot of that is with DeAndre Jordan as well.

951
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: But I think that's like the big issue that that

952
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: surrounds all of this um and we'll see the season

953
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: not over. Obviously tonight was a pretty healthscape type of game,

954
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: but there's still a lot of games left. Tomorrow is

955
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: another game against Okay. See, we have some bad teams

956
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: coming up, so we'll see if they can rack up

957
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: some wins. But I think until we change that, the

958
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: process is kind of the process is all messed up,

959
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: and maybe that's just how it's gonna be until Trevor Resa,

960
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: like I said, gets back. But I feel like him

961
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: as our saving grace at thirty six year old. It's

962
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: it's also unfair to him. Like again I said last

963
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: game when Jayson Tatum blew by Carmental and Anthony Staman

964
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: gun and he's like, that's why you go get Trevor Reasa,

965
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's why you get That's why you go

966
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: get two thousand nine Trevor Reason. That's not why you

967
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: go get Trevor Resa. But but we'll see. I hope,

968
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: I hope it wasn't too crazy events session tonight for

969
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: everyone listening. Yeah, the Lakers have had plenty of opportunity

970
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: to make excuses this season, whether it's you know, the

971
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: just the piling up of games over the last couple

972
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: of seasons because of COVID, or whether it's you know,

973
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: both Anthony Davis and Lebron nursing injuries over the summer,

974
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: or injuries derailing guys this season. We've had all sorts

975
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: of excuses, and now the excuses are kind of gone,

976
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, like the reasons that last remaining excuse, the

977
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: reason I guess and Kendrick Nunn and maybe just maybe

978
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: all those excuses have have allowed some of the players

979
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: to avoid some personal accountability. And I'm hopeful that that

980
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: personal accountability starts to take shape eventually, because you know,

981
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis at a certain point has to start getting

982
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: kiste off about the fact that he's not playing the

983
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: way he's supposed to be playing, you know, And I'm

984
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: Lebron and Russ are both fine, But the same goes

985
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: for these other guys on this team, Like at a

986
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: certain point, at a certain point, like this team has

987
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: to understand and that they're not going to win on

988
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: any consistent basis until they embrace the dirty work, you know,

989
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: And and for all of these guys that have had

990
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: offensive careers elsewhere. Yeah, like Okay, Mellow, you got to

991
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: shoot a bunch of shots on a bad Portland's team,

992
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Or Malik Monk, you got to shoot a bunch of

993
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: shots on a bad Charlotte team. But on this team,

994
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: we need you to do X y Z better, you

995
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like in Malik's getting better, but

996
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: like he missed a couple of big box outs again tonight.

997
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where it's just not good

998
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: enough what we're it's just not good enough and it

999
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: has to get better. And the only way for that

1000
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 1: to take place is personal accountability. And I think too

1001
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: many excuses have been made for this team. I'm thinking

1002
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: like Genie Bust going, Genie bus going like well, I

1003
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to judge Frank until we

1004
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: have the full team, And it's like, um, actually, you're

1005
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: just making another excuse there. We have more than enough

1006
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: to be much much better than we have been. Much

1007
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I would have been. I would have much rather had

1008
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Jeannie just say yeah, things have been rough, but we

1009
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: expect Frank to get it together like that. That that

1010
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: makes way more sense to me. And in putting your

1011
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: support behind the coach than than making yet another excuse.

1012
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. I'm just so sick of hearing

1013
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: about the injuries and in hearing about all the that,

1014
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Like I can't blame lineups anymore. Frank only went with

1015
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: two bigs for a few minutes tonight at the start

1016
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: of the second half. Like we can't blame injuries anymore.

1017
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: We have the bodies. Th HD has been so good

1018
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: defensively on the wing that like, I can't even blame

1019
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: the lack of forwards anymore. Like th h T is

1020
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: a defensive forward. He's proven that That's not why we

1021
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: lost tonight. You know, it's just it's frustrating. But I

1022
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: think we're gonna go ahead and call it to night guys.

1023
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Um we uh Raj. I believe is going up to

1024
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: talk with him after the pot. But I have a

1025
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Christmas party tomorrow, so I won't be missing the game.

1026
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: But I think Rag is going to do a postgame

1027
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: space and yep, and then um and then obviously we'll

1028
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: have the Sunday game as well against Orlando. I think

1029
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: this would be a good one for rewatch Roger, so

1030
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe let's yeah, let's dive into this one again,

1031
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: uh and watch it and then sometime this weekend we'll

1032
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: record a pod where we get a little bit different too,

1033
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: but hopefully hopefully they avenge the two okay see losses

1034
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: tomorrow go down three to okay see. That would be

1035
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: quite will be quite the season. All right, everybody, have

1036
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: a good rest of your night. This will be on

1037
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: Dash Radio tomorrow morning at seven am Pacific Standard time

1038
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: and on our podcast feed here in about a half hour.

1039
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate your support and we'll see you tomorrow. Thanks everyone.

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