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Speaker 1: After starting the game up fourteen to three, the Giants

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Speaker 1: do not score the rest of the game and give

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Speaker 1: up twenty three consecutive points to the New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 1: who defeat the Giants twenty six to fourteen. John Schmelch,

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Speaker 1: Tiki Barber with you on Giants Extra Point. We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from Brian Dable, We'll hear from all the Giants players

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Speaker 1: from the locker room as well.

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Speaker 2: And Tiki, you were in many a Tom Kofflin team meeting.

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Speaker 2: I told you I was gonna start this.

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Speaker 1: Wee you're if you are minus five in turnover ratio,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm gonna throw a little cherry

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Speaker 1: on top of that, and you have eight penalties ninety

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Speaker 1: five yards, what's your chances of winning a football game.

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Speaker 1: This probably not quite zero point zero zero, but it's

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Speaker 1: close to zero point zero zero percent to win the game.

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Speaker 2: Look, this Giant's.

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Speaker 3: Team absolutely teased us today. This game started with two

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Speaker 3: unbelievable drives. I'm ready to give Mike Kaka a head

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Speaker 3: coaching job somewhere with the play calling. In the first drive,

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart goes down, scores touched, and felt easy. The

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Speaker 3: second drive, it felt easy, and then things just started

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Speaker 3: to fall apart. It was a confluence of youth, ineptitude

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Speaker 3: and just abject stupidity. Whether it was the five turnovers

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Speaker 3: that you that you alluded to, the three fumbles.

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Speaker 2: This is in the I hate rookies category.

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Speaker 3: I say this all the time on Evan and TIKEI

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Speaker 3: things like Sean and Tommy and Evan.

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Speaker 2: They always laugh at me.

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Speaker 1: But this is the reason, because there's an urgency that

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Speaker 1: you have to play every single game and every moment matters.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart scrambling, I don't know why you are, because

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Speaker 1: you're about to get sandwiched by two defensive linemen and

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Speaker 1: if you are, at least put.

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Speaker 3: The ball away. This is not a low for bread

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Speaker 3: and this is not backyard pickup football. This is the NFL.

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Speaker 3: The ball comes out, he loses it, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden things just turn. On top of that, your veterans,

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Speaker 3: when it mattered, most were bad. Jermaine a Luminor, had

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Speaker 3: three penalties in this game.

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Speaker 1: On Cam Scataboo's fumble, he got completely beat across his

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Speaker 1: face on the backside, causing a fumble that was a

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Speaker 1: fumble six the other way. And then I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what to say about Darius Slayton, who not only

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Speaker 1: dropped the pass that was in his hands, he did

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Speaker 1: not try to contested catch a ball that was underthrown

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Speaker 1: by Jackson Dart and then he fumbles.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, on top of that.

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Speaker 1: He goes out with a hamstring injury, so it's not

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Speaker 1: even available down the stretch. This is the type of

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Speaker 1: game where as a fan you are elated. You're saying,

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Speaker 1: we have a new error of football led by Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it falls apart and

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Speaker 1: goes to you know what that that is. That is

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Speaker 1: the worst part of teasing that you can get as

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Speaker 1: a fan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it sucks, Tiki.

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Speaker 1: They easily could have been up twenty eight to three

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Speaker 1: in this game if not for the Slaton drop it again,

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Speaker 1: not an easy catch. He had to reach out with

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Speaker 1: two hands. It wasn't on his body, it was low.

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Speaker 1: But a play he has to make, he has to make.

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Speaker 3: Put the balls in your hands, you catch it, pull

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Speaker 3: it in cleanly as opposed to you know, dropping it

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Speaker 1: And then you're right, he doesn't come up with the

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Speaker 2: But and let's be fair.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart's got to put that up and over his

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Speaker 1: head ahead of him to score the touchdown. But again,

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Speaker 1: that's your chance. You're up twenty eight to nothing. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what's so frustrating about this game. The Giants

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Speaker 1: lost by twelve points, twenty six to fourteen. You don't

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Speaker 1: feel like the Saints did much of anything to contribute

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Speaker 2: Losses, not like, well, look at that great play?

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Speaker 1: Are he made?

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Speaker 1: Also play what a throw by Spencer Ratler out of

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Speaker 1: the cabar was making eight You the Giants And look well,

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Speaker 1: i'll quote Tom Cofflett again, you lose more games than

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Speaker 1: you win.

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Speaker 2: The Giants straight up lost this. They absolutely did.

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Speaker 3: And it was the mistakes that we've talked about, but

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Speaker 3: it was also the defense, which will which we I mean,

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Speaker 3: let's let's get into it for a second. The defense played,

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Speaker 3: I honestly think well except for four instances. One Deontay Banks,

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Speaker 3: to with you, because that was an interception in the

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Speaker 3: red area going the other way that the Giants would

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Speaker 3: have capitalized on. Instead, it's a pass interference. The Saints

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Speaker 3: keep the ball, they end up kicking a field goal

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Speaker 3: on that. It is what it is. But later in

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Speaker 3: the game, on consecutive plays, you have pass interferences by

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Speaker 3: Drew Phillips and then Paulson and Debo which are just dumb,

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Speaker 3: and they get into position. I think they also kicked

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Speaker 3: because I thought they were very much bend, don't break

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Speaker 3: in this game, was the eighty seven yard touchdown on

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Speaker 3: that post corner by Rahee Shaheed that got beat by Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Nuban who just he can't run with Rahichi.

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Speaker 1: And by the way I shake it back, I will

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Speaker 1: give the Saints credit for that.

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Speaker 2: They set up and I.

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Speaker 1: Think that we figure out the John's You think they

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Speaker 1: situation named Nuben and Shaheed, And look, Tyler Nuban is

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Speaker 1: a four to five to five athlete. Shaheed is a

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Speaker 3: Look that was You give Kellen Moore credit for designing

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Speaker 3: as long as you got the man on man on

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Speaker 3: brought pressure, and it is what it is. That was

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Speaker 3: they just they kind of gave up first downs, the

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Speaker 2: They gave up.

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Speaker 3: But they were limiting the Saints to feel goal opportunities.

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Speaker 3: And if a team is gonna kick field goals, you

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Speaker 3: should be able to beat them. The problem was that

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Speaker 3: the Giants offense kept giving the ball back each in

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Speaker 1: All right, we have play more to talk about, but

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Speaker 1: I want to get to a break So, miss Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable at the podium. That was today's game breakdown, brought

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Speaker 2: Time out. We'll come back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: All right, Brian Dables with the podium, let's listen.

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Speaker 6: In offensively A flea flicker and a post which I

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Speaker 6: thought could have changed it after the start of the game. Defense,

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Speaker 6: we did a good job in the run game, gave

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Speaker 6: up that big play to twenty two, which was a

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Speaker 6: you know, it was a huge play for us. So

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Speaker 6: we can't have those things. D p I penalties again,

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Speaker 6: frive to turnovers to zero. You're not gonna win. You're

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Speaker 6: not gonna win this league.

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Speaker 7: A little underthrown or quickly enough.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I'm gonna have to go back and look

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Speaker 6: at it. I thought we you know, we got by

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Speaker 2: How it looks, but we had a chance.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, again, that's that was the decision that we

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Speaker 6: made not to go forth there. We went on a

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Speaker 6: number of four downs and we're gonna try to pin

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Speaker 6: them down there on that one you didn't go for.

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Speaker 7: I believe in the first half you were in there.

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Speaker 6: Then you went for the one early in the second half,

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Speaker 6: which is behind that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again we go.

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Speaker 6: I have guys that I lean on fourth down wise,

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Speaker 6: that we communicate and talk about, and you know, every

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Speaker 6: talking to the guys that I lean on, and then

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Speaker 6: ultimately it's my decision.

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Speaker 2: Which the Jackson, uh I thought he battled.

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Speaker 6: You know, the game got away from us from him

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Speaker 6: a little bit again with those turnovers again, some easy

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Speaker 6: was those kill you because they give those points I

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Speaker 6: think thirteen points off and then they take away points

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Speaker 6: when we're driving and they're all you know, most of

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Speaker 6: out of it. But again, we moved the ball well sometimes,

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Speaker 6: but it's just hard when you're you're giving the ball away.

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Speaker 6: A lot of his success was in the first hip

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Speaker 8: What did they do did you What did you see

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Speaker 2: Not much.

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Speaker 6: I thought we moved the ball and then we turned

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Speaker 6: which is you know, it's hard to do with cam.

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Speaker 6: I got to go back and look at all of

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Speaker 6: got knocked hands. Jackson dropped the one. I mean, those

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Speaker 6: them all over like that, give him opportunities for points,

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Speaker 6: take away opportunities for you scoring points when you're.

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Speaker 9: Moving the ball.

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Speaker 6: Well, I said a number of things. I thought they

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Speaker 6: got the ball quick, they did a good job with

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Speaker 6: it that we missed a couple that we had in

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Speaker 6: us some third downs. They were third and shorter most

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Speaker 6: and against broken record. But five oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how many teams have ever won when

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Speaker 6: it's five. Oh the turnover ratio, Yeah, just a couple of.

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Speaker 7: What are you seeing from him? It seems like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Tay had that he had that penalty,

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Speaker 6: tast done some good things, you know, trust both those guys.

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Speaker 6: But obviously that one, that one hurt us against missed opportunities.

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Speaker 6: That one, a couple of plays we had downfield that

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Speaker 2: Not good enough or five times.

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Speaker 10: Already, and he's it's in limited playing time, playing full time.

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Speaker 1: We just heard from Brian Dable there, Tiki, and he

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Speaker 1: don't we talk one more time about the defense here, Tiki.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to put your finger on it here. The

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Speaker 1: Saints only end up finishing with five fewer yards in

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Speaker 1: the Giants two in terms of total yards. Yeah, fewer

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Speaker 1: yards three hundred and thirty two. Now you have to

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Speaker 1: kick a seven of that is on one play correct.

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Speaker 1: And in the second half they really didn't have a

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Speaker 1: ton of true possessions here because they had the interest

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Speaker 1: of the fumble return for a touchdown, and then they

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Speaker 1: were kind of running out the clock on their last couple,

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Speaker 1: so they really only had one true drive in the

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Speaker 1: second half. So I don't know really what to make

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Speaker 1: of the Giants defense.

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Speaker 2: I will say this.

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Speaker 1: They were not bad or incompetent, but one thing they

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Speaker 1: certainly did not do. And if Jonathan Casiez was here,

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Speaker 1: he would say this, they didn't go out there and

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Speaker 1: make a play themselves now to turn this game. They

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Speaker 1: didn't get a sack when they did get a forced fumble,

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Speaker 1: they didn'tet an interception. They didn't make enough plays themselves

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Speaker 1: to turn this game back in the giants favor after

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Speaker 1: maybe the offense made a mistake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when the Giants are hurting themselves offensively, it becomes

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Speaker 3: incumbent upon a defense to do the same in turn

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Speaker 3: to the opposing team. In this case, the Saints were smart.

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Speaker 3: They did not put themselves in harm's way. You didn't

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Speaker 3: really see a lot of danger throws by Spencer Rattler.

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Speaker 3: They were easy crossers, just hitches, things of that nature

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Speaker 3: that were easy completions for him. And they were able

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Speaker 3: to run the ball a little bit. And you know, look,

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Speaker 3: they weren't dominant by any capacity. And I think it's

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Speaker 3: why the Giants, when I look at the defense and totality,

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Speaker 3: it felt like the bend don't break when you know

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Speaker 3: methodology was working for them, because you didn't feel like

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Speaker 3: they were taking shots in the end zone. Even when

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Speaker 3: they got into the red zone, they were very conservative.

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Speaker 3: Let me dump this thing underneath Alvin Kamara, see if

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Speaker 3: he could make something happen with his legs. But the

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Speaker 3: opportunities weren't there for them to make plays. But they

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Speaker 3: also didn't make plays. The only thing they could have

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Speaker 3: done was put more pressure. This would have been a

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Speaker 3: play calling issue defensively to put more pressure on Spencer Rattler.

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Speaker 3: But then you expose your secondary a little bit to

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Speaker 3: some of those speed, aggressive, dynamic players like Chris Olave

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Speaker 3: and Rashid Shaheed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, And I think this is I

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Speaker 1: think where you have beef with the defense. In the

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Speaker 1: first half, the Saints punted on their first possession, did

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Speaker 1: not punt again until the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Right, So a fourteen play, fifty yard.

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Speaker 1: Drives, twelfth plays, forty nine yard drive, the eighty seven

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown catch on the next one, six to fourteen

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Speaker 1: in a missed field goal, eight for thirty in a

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Speaker 1: field goal. So the defense never quite did enough to

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Speaker 1: get the Saints off the field quickly. You talk about

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Speaker 1: having no three and outs after that first three and

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Speaker 1: out of the game, the Saints didn't have a three

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Speaker 1: and out the rest of the way either.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the challenges that this Giant's

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Speaker 3: defense is gonna face, and they face it today and

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Speaker 3: they'll face it for the weeks to come, especially giving

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Speaker 3: the given the quarterbacks they're going to play. If if

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Speaker 3: you don't have a drop back and I put that

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Speaker 3: in quotes, drop back style offense like the Chargers, then

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Speaker 3: the Giant strength defensively doesn't help you.

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Speaker 2: Right getting after the quarterback at.

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Speaker 3: Point and scheming games so that you got free runners

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Speaker 3: at the quarterback, it doesn't help you when you have

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Speaker 3: an offense that wants to get the ball out quick

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Speaker 3: because Spencer Rattler is not a drop back passer. He's

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Speaker 3: only five foot or eleven or whatever that he is

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Speaker 3: six feet tall, So you're not gonna get that those

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Speaker 3: those sack opportunity, those turnover opportunities with with.

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Speaker 2: With teams like that.

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Speaker 3: And now you have the Eagles coming in, who certainly

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Speaker 3: aren't a drop back pass first team with Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: bo Nicks. I guess to an extent they do that,

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Speaker 3: but not really. Then you have the Eagles again, so

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Speaker 3: they're just not in that position. To dominate because of

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Speaker 3: the offenses they've been playing for the next month.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, And look the Eagles are not chewing

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Speaker 1: a bunch of five and seven step drops.

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Speaker 2: They want to run it, run, play action, and gonna

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Speaker 2: move the pocket.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos move the pocket with bow knicks more than anyone.

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Speaker 1: They get him out, rolling out, and they do all

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Speaker 1: that stuff you go later in the year. Drake May

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Speaker 1: has run more rollouts this year than any of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football League. So you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of these static quarterbacks to your point

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Speaker 1: and the other point Tiki. Unlike last week, the Giants

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Speaker 1: did not get the scenes into a lot of third

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Speaker 1: and laws. Bob and Carl talked about this during the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Third and two, third and three, third and four, third

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Speaker 1: and one. You can't unleash your pass rush on those

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Speaker 1: plays because all of a sudden, you do a little

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Speaker 1: check down, you do a hot route, you can get

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Speaker 1: the first down, or you can just run the ball,

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Speaker 1: or you could just run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Car You're gonna put your your your your rates car

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Speaker 3: package on the on the on the on the field

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Speaker 3: with you know, those three edge rushers.

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Speaker 2: Some of them.

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Speaker 3: Playing in different types of positions, you actually create a

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Speaker 3: disadvantage for yourself. So it's the advantage that we saw

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Speaker 3: a week ago from the Giant defense is not going

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Speaker 3: to be prevalent in the weeks to come. So they're

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Speaker 3: gonna have to find a different way to impact games

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Speaker 3: and help create turnover opportunities. And again, the one turnover

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Speaker 3: opportunity they had, it was negated because of a pass

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Speaker 3: interference on Deontay Banks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I believe Darius Alexander had the quarterback in

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Speaker 1: on that. Brian Burns was in the neighborhood as well

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Speaker 1: to force that interception. Again, that was the pass rush

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Speaker 1: making a play, but then you secondary takes that away.

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Speaker 2: Runner Walk with Giants Legends.

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Speaker 1: The Giants Foundation will host a five K Racing Kids

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Speaker 2: will just be out there greeting everybody.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could run, but the timing doesn't work

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Speaker 3: out because the Giants are playing that day.

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Speaker 2: That is true, and so we have a pregame show.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to walk over a sweaty mess, and

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Speaker 1: I try to do the premiation, I might walk over

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Speaker 1: a sweaty mess.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, I'll take a jog from the Giants five K

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Speaker 3: over to the Quest Diagnostic Center where we'll be doing

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Speaker 3: our show in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But conn I'm looking forward to be out being out there. Connor,

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Speaker 1: we will not be here in two and a half weeks,

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Speaker 1: so it will be a quest. That is our version

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Speaker 1: of telling you as we do the post game show.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick time out. We'll come

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Speaker 1: back here from Jackson Darf.

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Speaker 2: And the podium.

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Speaker 1: That and a whole lot more from the locker room

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Speaker 1: again the Giants fault of the Saints twenty six to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more after this.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan Giants

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Speaker 5: Radio Network.

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Speaker 14: Third and seventh from the Saints fifteen.

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Speaker 15: Dart in a shotgun set ye also lerned stataboodoos left dark,

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Speaker 15: takes the snap back to throw, fires it into the

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Speaker 15: end zone, and the pass is caught for the touchdown

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Speaker 15: on the scene THEO Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That was today's play the game brought to you locally

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Speaker 1: by four and one performance and capability at every turn.

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Speaker 2: That was a giant touchdown on the second drive of

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 1: Take a really nice throw from Jackson Dorn I think

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Speaker 1: maybe my favorite throw from him so far this year,

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Speaker 1: tight spot down the scene against Cover three. Put the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit behind the tight end, maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit more than he wanted to, but he was

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Speaker 1: leading him away from the safety.

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Speaker 2: Really nice catch by THEO Johnson. Heck of a play,

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Speaker 2: right Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that Jackson does really

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Speaker 3: well is notice zone coverages and gets rid of the

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Speaker 3: ball on time and gives his wide receiver pass catcher

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Speaker 3: a chance. And that was the case with THEO. Johnson throw.

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Speaker 3: I think he had a couple of really good throws.

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Speaker 3: On those first couple of drives, the ball down the

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Speaker 3: left sideline to Daniel Bellinger that was almost ruled incomplete.

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Speaker 3: Was such a well placed throw right where Daniel could

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Speaker 3: could catch it, but the defender couldn't make a play

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Speaker 3: on it. He makes the cats knee gets down or

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Speaker 3: shin gets down, which made it not an incomplete pass,

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Speaker 3: and then they were able to have a wide open

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Speaker 3: Theo Johnson on a play action pass to the next play.

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Speaker 3: So I think early on in this game, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 3: was dialed in to put the ball where it needed

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Speaker 3: to be best for his wide house, mostly his tight ends,

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Speaker 3: and he's just got to continue to grow upon that.

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Speaker 3: Look the mistakes that happened with him in this game,

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Speaker 3: I get it, he's a young player that they occur,

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Speaker 3: but it killed you because they weren't it. They were

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Speaker 3: at the most vulnerable time for this Giants offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you something.

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Speaker 1: This is Layman never played the game, John Schmalk asking

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Speaker 1: you a legitimate question that I'm curious about. We've seen

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Early in the game, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: cook a little bit. How much of that is him

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Speaker 1: working and practicing that pregame script.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of the week, so he

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Speaker 2: really knows what he's running.

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Speaker 1: He sees it in practice, and he's really prepared to

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Speaker 1: run those specific plays when you get to a game.

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Speaker 3: So mostly how this works is that when you start

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Speaker 3: to think about a script, an early part of a script,

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Speaker 3: what you're gonna do, what you're gonna be best at,

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Speaker 3: you end up practicing it and talking about it with

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Speaker 3: different looks. And so when you get into a game,

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Speaker 3: no matter what a defense tries to do to you,

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Speaker 3: obviously based on their defensive tendencies, you're.

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Speaker 2: Prepared for it.

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Speaker 3: And I think early in this game, Jackson Dart looked

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Speaker 3: really prepared, but I mean it wasn't It wasn't that

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Speaker 3: that got I don't know, taken away from him as

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Speaker 3: the game went Onultimately, they just started making mistakes, right.

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Speaker 3: They had opportunities that Darius Slayton drop was a great call.

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Speaker 3: Just make the play. The flea flicker on third and

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Speaker 3: one was a great call. Jackson Dart chess he has

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Speaker 3: to put that ball in the end zone. He threw

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Speaker 3: it it ten yards short.

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Speaker 1: So we have him at the podium now, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he'll get asked about a lot of these things.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 16: I felt like we had, you know a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 16: We were just moving the ball down the field and

663
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Speaker 16: then we would just hurt ourselves. So you know, in

664
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Speaker 16: the NFL, there's every team is a good team, every

665
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 16: team has talent, and I just I kind of felt

666
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Speaker 16: like we just kind of and it just kind of

667
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 16: just gave the game away by by those turnovers.

668
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Speaker 7: What happened.

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Speaker 17: Just though out of my hand?

670
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Speaker 7: What what?

671
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Speaker 17: What's the tucked the balls by?

672
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

673
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Speaker 16: I mean in time that you get more reps, you're

674
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 16: gonna get better. So you know, I think that you know,

675
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 16: obviously I'm young, and that can be an excuse. So

676
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 16: I gotta continue to get better. And uh, quarterbacks are

677
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 16: measured by you know, wins and losses, so you know,

678
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Speaker 16: I take that to heart. And uh I felt like

679
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 16: I I was, you know, kind of the one who

680
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 16: who should have been, you know, putting our team in

681
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 16: the better situation and to uh, you know, get a

682
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Speaker 16: win in this game.

683
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Speaker 12: Uh, I mean, what part what you saw.

684
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 7: Just slay one on one?

685
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Speaker 16: You know, wish I could have just put it a

686
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Speaker 16: little farther out there. You know, at the end of day,

687
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Speaker 16: I'm gonna give my guys a chance to make a play.

688
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Speaker 7: But yeah, I just wish I just did a little

689
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 7: farther out there ago or.

690
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Speaker 12: So a little bit.

691
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Speaker 7: Explained five Street.

692
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Speaker 14: Where once you start having a couple of kind of spiral,

693
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Speaker 14: how do you do?

694
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Speaker 16: It's not good? So I gotta cut that ship out.

695
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 16: And I think that starts with me just being a leader. Obviously,

696
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 16: you know, some of those came from me, and you know,

697
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 16: I gotta be a better example. I gotta be a

698
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 16: better leader. And I think just in those situations, I

699
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 16: can you know, just talk to the guys in the

700
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Speaker 16: huddle and you know, just remind them about you know,

701
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Speaker 16: ball security. So you know, as a quarterback, I put that,

702
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Speaker 16: I put you know, those on myself obviously beyond the turnovers.

703
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: But what do what do you take out of those

704
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 6: first two drives as you move forward trying to take something.

705
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Speaker 7: Today.

706
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm definitely not into like moral victories or things

707
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 16: like that. I mean, I'm you know, it's it's a loss.

708
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 16: I don't really care what happened during the game. Yeah,

709
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Speaker 16: I mean, after like the whole game, we moved the

710
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Speaker 16: ball just fine. We just had turnovers. Like there wasn't

711
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Speaker 16: many times where we just got stopped on a three. Now,

712
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Speaker 16: I mean we were I thought we were really good

713
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Speaker 16: in the open field.

714
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 17: We just turned older.

715
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Speaker 7: Your team is your obviously first lost. Your team's gonna

716
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: look to you and see how you react.

717
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 18: What what do you play at the show?

718
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 7: Then in the next four days before the.

719
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Speaker 17: Next game, I'm just gonna work harder.

720
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's a long season.

721
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Speaker 16: It's a little different than college.

722
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Speaker 7: But you know, for me, I just gotta keep leading.

723
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Speaker 16: You know, I told as many guys I can in

724
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 16: the locker room, this one's on me, and I'm gonna

725
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 16: get better, and you know, I expect myself to play

726
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 16: better in these games and to win them. So yeah,

727
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Speaker 16: I'm just gonna go back watch the tape, you know,

728
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 16: to see the things that I can clean clean up

729
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 16: on and be better for this team to to win,

730
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Speaker 16: you know, games that we play.

731
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Speaker 4: What do you think this was?

732
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 7: This was on you?

733
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Speaker 18: I mean you had any interceptions, but there were other

734
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Speaker 18: people that attributed.

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Speaker 16: To Yeah, man, I'm the leader of the offense us,

736
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Speaker 16: so I think that you know, anytime that those things happen.

737
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Speaker 16: You know, it kind of falls back on you know,

738
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Speaker 16: the leaders, and you know, I take that responsibility.

739
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Speaker 7: And I'm not gonna you know, just can continue to.

740
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Speaker 16: Have conversations with the guys and you know we're gonna

741
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Speaker 16: clean that stuff up.

742
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 12: You know, maybe some people how.

743
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Speaker 8: To hold yourself up to a higher standard someone might attribute.

744
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Speaker 7: To a rookie or someone you know.

745
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I've I've never cared about my age,

746
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 16: you know, coming into the NFL. I mean right now

747
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 16: I'm in the youngest quarterback in in the league. But

748
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 16: you know I could give you know, two craps about that.

749
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Speaker 7: It's about winning.

750
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Speaker 16: So I don't take any excuse for age or you know,

751
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Speaker 16: being a rookie. Like there's a responsibility when your quarterback

752
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 16: to go win games. And uh that's just the standard

753
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Speaker 16: that I helped myself.

754
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 9: To off just a little bit.

755
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Speaker 12: The Egg Bull, how big that robbery was or anything

756
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 12: in those games that you.

757
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 19: Saw like kind of matches her like SOMEFL intensity at all.

758
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 16: I mean, every game in the SEC is pretty intense,

759
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 16: but I would say the Egg Bull is, you know,

760
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 16: one of the bigger rivalries in college football. So uh,

761
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 16: I just think, you know, kind of the physicality of it.

762
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 17: I think you can take that, you know, from college

763
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 17: the NFL for sure.

764
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Speaker 7: Good did you have Yeah, I'm okay.

765
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Speaker 18: Did you have trouble getting to play in uh?

766
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Speaker 12: On the your first interception, uh one down one.

767
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 16: Where you roll you write, there's just some you know,

768
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Speaker 16: extra communication that we were just trying to get cleared up.

769
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Speaker 16: Obviously it's fourth down, so I'm I'm not gonna take

770
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Speaker 16: a sack or I'm not gonna, you know, try to

771
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 16: make a play. You know, fourth down you gotta try

772
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 16: to get you know, somebody a chance and got out

773
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 16: out of the pocket, and you know, in those situations,

774
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 16: you know, just try to put all down in the

775
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 16: field and you know, my mind, that's just as good

776
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Speaker 16: as a punt. So try to just give my guy,

777
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Speaker 16: my guy a chance on on the fourth down.

778
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Speaker 7: This week?

779
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Speaker 12: How many short career, but just in terms of your.

780
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 18: Preparation, how much do you have to accelerate.

781
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 12: That, how much more do you have to do in

782
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 12: the week as opposed to maybe last week.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I've played in a short week in college,

784
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Speaker 16: the Egg Bowl. That's a quick turnaround, so I kind

785
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Speaker 16: of understand, you know, kind of the timing a little bit.

786
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 16: But you know, good thing for me is I have,

787
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 16: you know, guys in the room who have done it

788
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 16: for a really long time. So, you know, just trying

789
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 16: to make a schedule, and obviously it's a it's gonna

790
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 16: be a lighter week on on our bodies, but uh,

791
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 16: the communication has to be yet an all time high

792
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 16: and got to make sure that everybody is on the

793
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 16: same page. So in these short weeks, we can you know,

794
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 16: plays clan as we can think.

795
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Yes, our player press conferences are brought to you by MetLife,

796
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: the official insurance company of the New York Giants, And

797
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: as Jackson Dart mentioned, we'll have to prepare in a

798
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: short week for a vic Fangio and that Eagles defense

799
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: on Thursday might be a little bit tougher than the

800
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: opponent he had in the Egg Bowl.

801
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And I get the parallel, Ye it's not

802
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: quite the parallel.

803
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: And Darius Slayton, who again left this game with the

804
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: hamstring injury on a short week, I would be very,

805
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: very surprised that. Again we don't know what the diagnosis

806
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: was on the sideline, but that type of short sure

807
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: week is usually tough for guys to come back from

808
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries in that short period of time. If

809
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: you're listening your Yankee fan, Yankees now trail for nothing

810
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: to the Blue Jays in the bottom of the third

811
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: inning with a runner on second and two outs.

812
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: All right, quick time out, We'll come back.

813
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: We have Theo Johnson from the locker room, Darius Slayton

814
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: from the locker room, that and a whole lot more

815
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: as we continue here. The Giants again fall to the

816
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Saints twenty six to fourteen.

817
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: Will be right back.

818
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Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

819
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 5: Radio Network.

820
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 8: This is Darius Slayton, and you're listening to the radio

821
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 8: home of Big Blue the Fan, w f A N

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Speaker 8: and w f AN FM, New York.

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Speaker 1: Back here on Giants Extra Point, Johns Shmelt Tiki Barber

824
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: with you. Giants fall to the New Orleans Saints twenty

825
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: six to fourteen. Darius Slayton, who heard his hamstring in

826
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: this game, also had a drop on a deep pass

827
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: a fumble in this game and could not come up

828
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: with a contested catch on an underthrown flea flicker.

829
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: I think that's all of them.

830
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: I will now throw it and listen to Darius Slaton

831
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: downstairs after the game.

832
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 7: Trying to make a play.

833
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 8: I don't know if you punched it out on how

834
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 8: I lost the ball, but you know, obviously right there,

835
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 8: I gotta be better. I gotta do a better job

836
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 8: sing the ball running with it, and yeah, thanks, pretty frustrated,

837
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 8: mostly with myself.

838
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm probably probably.

839
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 8: Not probably I left to play or two out there.

840
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 8: You know, definitely, KYI would rely helped us put ourselves

841
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 8: in a bet a better position to get more.

842
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 15: Than leading the game and the probably give.

843
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 20: Us a chance to run away.

844
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Speaker 7: He did early, Honestly, the first deep one, that's the

845
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 7: one you're talking about, I mean, what is that just

846
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 7: that well you just don't catch her. Yeah, not so

847
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 7: much that one. I mean now when I kind of.

848
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 8: Got out and I tried, like I still didn't make

849
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 8: the play, but like you know that now it's gonna

850
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 8: kind of football makes some MISSU.

851
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 12: But more so.

852
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 8: The second one, you know, I just wish I would

853
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 8: have tried to.

854
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 7: Go back and get the ball in a different way,

855
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 7: you know, maybe try to find a way.

856
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 20: To John and go get the ball.

857
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 7: But unfortunately, you know you are you're talking about that

858
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 7: was it. It seemed like was hanging up there for

859
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 7: a little while there you're talking about So maybe maybe

860
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 7: you were waiting for it too.

861
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 17: Much and you can started coming back to it.

862
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 8: That would Yeah, I just I wish I would have,

863
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 8: you know, try to go back to it so much

864
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 8: shape of farm. You know, at the end of the day,

865
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 8: like the quarterback can't be perfect and nobody near us.

866
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 7: It's our job to go to fight at the ball.

867
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Speaker 19: You know, probably what about that or that player busted

868
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 19: wide open though, right, I mean that that's I mean,

869
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 19: you're running free though.

870
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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, for sure, you know, And yeah, but my

871
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 8: mentality is, you know, like I said, quite that can

872
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 8: always be perfect. The reality is like as a receiver,

873
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 8: they give you a chance to go proproct, they'll always

874
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 8: need to go fight for it.

875
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 7: So you know, I gotta find a way to try.

876
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: To go and make that.

877
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Speaker 20: But like it very very good your finger on like

878
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Speaker 20: you're to get a spiral over snowball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure I had the first one.

880
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 8: So you know, from an accounta billy standpoint.

881
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 16: You know, I feel like I kind of you know,

882
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 16: started that.

883
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 7: But obviously you know, from myself to. I don't even

884
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 7: mind whoever else would turn it over, but for everybody,

885
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 7: we obviously all had to do that job over on

886
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 7: the the first on the first long one there, what

887
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 7: did you see there? Did you?

888
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Will you?

889
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 7: Did you somebody have a hand on you there?

890
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 8: On the I'm the first long one not but yeah,

891
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 8: the first one, I kind of got grabbed at the

892
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 8: top of the route.

893
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 15: Which made me a little bit to the ball, but

894
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 15: I got.

895
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 8: Actually caught in somehow also on the way to the ground.

896
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 7: But like I said, you know, that's.

897
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 13: What it's so hard.

898
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 7: It makes how hard is it there?

899
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 8: Any level and turn them all over the lot it's

900
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 8: just about possible.

901
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 7: I mean, five trucks and it's uh somehow we're.

902
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 8: Still in the game there at the end, but it's

903
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 8: it's really hard.

904
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 21: To win that.

905
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 17: What do you guys this it's good.

906
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 8: We won't so you know, we won't find out what

907
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 8: that's gonna be, like we're gonna hold on to the ball,

908
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 8: and really is we moved the ball from down the

909
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 8: field all game.

910
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 7: Really didn't get stopped really much out of yourself.

911
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 8: So you know, as long as we two to play

912
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 8: like that, and I want to.

913
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 7: Ball right what did you see from Jackson? And we

914
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 7: get one. It's a good start, and obviously we didn't

915
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 7: see this last week, you know, some real struggles down

916
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 7: to stretch there.

917
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, honest, at the top of my head, I really

918
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 8: don't want any struggles ring pretty much every mistake that

919
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 8: gonna be a lot of top of heavity might have made,

920
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 8: we probably could.

921
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 13: Have helped him out, you know.

922
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 7: Obviously it's in the NFL.

923
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 8: And that's the point of having good off and Vincent

924
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 8: bearers rock and when the quarterback and see were helping from.

925
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: That tough Yeah, tell.

926
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 8: You I think that's got such something Colosi, I'll be better,

927
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 8: you know, I was like, I mean, I maybe seven

928
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 8: years reason seven years in this league from not making place,

929
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 8: you know, so I'm gonna make a lot more than

930
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 8: I don't. But unfortunately, uh, basically, you know, I'm gonna

931
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 8: do my best shape back and get as he be

932
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 8: his best foster. Get that's my plan.

933
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: How difficult is about obviously you don't have my leak

934
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: out there for the first time, you know, this year.

935
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 7: How difficult is that? I mean, obviously you shift.

936
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 20: The things up a little bit and be more too

937
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 20: tight end stuff and whatnot. But for you guys receiving

938
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 20: moreham what's the dynamic there?

939
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so not, I wouldn't say it's more difficult, you know.

940
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 8: I think at the end of the day, we have

941
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 8: a lot of cabul receivers on this team, and you know,

942
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 8: obviously today might not have been the best representation of that,

943
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 8: but it's certainly not representation of the rest of the

944
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 8: season and how that will go. So, you know, I

945
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 8: think we have a lot of guys that are capable

946
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 8: of making places, but not Clive, and they will.

947
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Be going for if you do.

948
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 18: We have a big worst Jacks saw Jackson through everything.

949
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 18: How did he handle the things?

950
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 22: I guess you know what don't you see from him

951
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 22: when you hear from him?

952
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think he handled it pretty well.

953
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Now, one of the things you heard from Darius Slayton

954
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: and that and those clips was about the contested catch

955
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: where he was getting interfered with and he touched his

956
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: hands and he dropped it.

957
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: And the only.

958
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: Exception I take to what he said is some he said,

959
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: sometimes you make those, sometimes you don't. If you are

960
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: going to be an elite player in this league, you

961
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: have to have the mentality of I'm making that play

962
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: no matter what, and even if I am interfered with,

963
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 3: I have to fight through it, make the catch and

964
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: and force the referee to call a pass interference on you.

965
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: You can't just assume, because the problem is when you

966
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: start assuming, oh, I'm getting a penalty here, and you

967
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: you you lay off of it. A llah the Bo

968
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: Collins play that was intercepted, he assumed he was getting

969
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: interfered with and cut off, so he stops running on

970
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: the play and kool Aid McKinstry ends up intercepting Jackson

971
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: Dart's ball that would have been right in his his arm,

972
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: his path. You create, you create the opportunity for the defense.

973
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: And so I like Darius Slayton.

974
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: I think I just think he's he's too passive sometimes

975
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: and as a now the number one on this team,

976
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: you gotta go fight for footballs. And he said that,

977
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: by the way, but I'm just I'm just relaying the obvious.

978
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: Yes, if you want to be what and try.

979
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: To replace Molik Neighbors, you have to fight for the ball.

980
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: They're not gonna give it to you. You can't just

981
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: let it come to you. Uh, you have to go

982
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: drive and make a play. And not just hope that

983
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: the play happens around.

984
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: You, No question about it, all right, THEO Johnson caught

985
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes. By the way, I will say this

986
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: real quickly, quickly before we get to THEO. Of all

987
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: the turnovers in this game, Taky the two that bothered

988
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: me the least. I'm sure Giant fans will roll their

989
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: eyes and say, well, why is that? The two Dart

990
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: interceptions the ones that bothered me the least.

991
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: In this game.

992
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: Well, the second one certainly, because that was basically an

993
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: armed punt.

994
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: Correct. It's fourth down. There was nobody open. I know that.

995
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: On the broadcast, you know, Carl and Bob talked about

996
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: how you maybe could have got at the bow Collins

997
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: and he could have fought for a first down.

998
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: But I don't have to see the replay again. I

999
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: would have to see it as well. I saw it briefly.

1000
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: He was coming downhill, he was short of the line

1001
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: to gain. I don't trust it. As a rookie free agent,

1002
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: he's catching that and having the awareness to know to

1003
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: get forward and get the first down.

1004
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: But he had to throw the ball. It's fourth down.

1005
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: You tried to give your guy a shot down the

1006
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: field and Kool Aiman Country just made a great play

1007
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: sinking back underneath it. You should have just knocked it

1008
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: down because then they would have hauled the forty yard

1009
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: line instead. They had it at the seven, but then

1010
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: it really didn't matter because the Giants couldn't subsequently stop

1011
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: the run.

1012
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: And when I say, by the way, bother me the

1013
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: least I say the other interception because that wasn't on

1014
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: Dart right that that was the fact that you know,

1015
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Bo Collins cut off his route and I'm not sure

1016
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: if you would have gone.

1017
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: To it anyway, even if he would have ran through it.

1018
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: So it might have been a little high, a little

1019
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: incomplete out in front of him, but it probably would

1020
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: not have been an interception.

1021
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: All right. Now, let's go to THEO Johnson downstairs after

1022
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: the game.

1023
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: Ton of double kiding sets to the you after one,

1024
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: I think it was only fourteen percent in the first

1025
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: one in the season. What does that only do for

1026
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: you guys offensively, because you certainly had a good first.

1027
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 7: Tap with the two touchdown catches.

1028
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think that has a good change up, you know,

1029
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 22: gives a defense something different look at.

1030
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 12: I think we can do a lot out of it.

1031
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 22: We have all capable guys that can do everything that

1032
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 22: you ask, so we can run out of it.

1033
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 12: We can all catch out of it.

1034
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 7: You see.

1035
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 22: You know me and Belly getting more active in the

1036
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 22: past one. So it's it's tough to defend when you

1037
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 22: got guys who can do everything.

1038
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: Tenancause we've talked about your chemistry with Jackson and obviously

1039
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: the two touchdown catches, a couple of nice throws, a

1040
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: couple of nice grabs for you.

1041
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, that's my guy. We're gonna keep building

1042
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 22: that connection. We'll keep working together.

1043
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: You're one of the young guys on the team, he's

1044
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: still a rookie. When you have some frustration and some

1045
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 4: difficult moments like this during the course of a game,

1046
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: how do you keep the spirits up?

1047
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's it's next play mentality.

1048
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 22: Everyone's gonna make mistakes and do you know have plays

1049
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 22: that they wish they could get back. It's just the

1050
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 22: next play mentality. Keep moving on a few if you, you.

1051
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 12: Know, keep thinking about the last play, you're not gonna

1052
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 12: do the right round.

1053
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 20: The next play.

1054
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: I had asked you during the week about the sound

1055
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 4: in the building. Was that much of an impact after

1056
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: the Saints got the lead, because they did hit a

1057
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: hundred decibels several.

1058
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 12: Times, did you repeat that from any worse?

1059
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 4: I had asked you during the week about the sound

1060
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: in the building, and after they got the leader they

1061
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: hit a hundred decibels a number of times. It seemed

1062
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: as though it might have been discombobulated. Was it at all?

1063
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 22: You know, it got loud in there. I think we

1064
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 22: did a good job pendeling it. We gotta, you know,

1065
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 22: hold our water. We had some off sides, but I

1066
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 22: think we handled it well all right.

1067
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: Final question fourteen points in the first half. In the

1068
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: second half, obviously the turnover was costed a ton of opportunities,

1069
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: but were there other things that you saw in this

1070
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: office that you would like to have better at in

1071
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: the second.

1072
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 7: Half to get the mover?

1073
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 12: I mean, the name of the game's not turned the

1074
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 12: ball over.

1075
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 7: You know, to put the ball and the ground. You

1076
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 7: turn it all over.

1077
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 12: And they don't have a turnover, you're not gonna the game.

1078
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 12: So I think that's that is for sure the.

1079
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 18: Most playing thing that we got to work on this week.

1080
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 7: In four or three Theo Johnson thinky.

1081
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: That's Paul Tatino with Theo Johnson after the game and

1082
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: Tiki I don't have the official snap counts yet.

1083
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get him off of the primary numbers

1084
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: off of.

1085
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, but I do feel like from a

1086
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: strategic tactical standpoint, the Giants used a lot more multiple

1087
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: tight end sets in this game.

1088
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: In in fact, I'm looking at it right now.

1089
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: In this game, Theo Johnson played sixty out of a

1090
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: possible seventy three snaps, and Daniel Bellinger played thirty eight

1091
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: out of possible seventy three. Wandell played sixty nine, Darius

1092
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: Slayton fifty five, Jalen high At thirty four, both Collins

1093
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: twenty eight. So just looking at those numbers and how

1094
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: they add up, and especially given the fact the Giants

1095
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: were down late in the game and probably had to

1096
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: go to more three wide receiver sets, I would say

1097
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: this was definitely the largest volume of twelve personnel, one

1098
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: running back, two tight end sets than we've seen this year.

1099
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: No, You're definitely right, and I think this was it

1100
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: was It was intended to be this way because both

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Speaker 3: of those.

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Speaker 2: Guys are pretty good ball catchers.

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Speaker 3: Theo Johnson, Daniel Bellinger and Daniel Bellinger at the beginning

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Speaker 3: of the game was the most targeted player for the

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Speaker 3: Giants early on, and so it was to change up

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Speaker 3: something that you're just not used to. But given the

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Speaker 3: lack of a downfield threat and THEO Johnson, you had.

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Speaker 2: To think of it differently. You had to.

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Speaker 3: Construct your plan of attack differently, and I think going

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Speaker 3: with the tight ends was smart. It was effective until

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Speaker 3: they started turning the football over and became inefficient because

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Speaker 3: you gave the ball back to the Saints too many times.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a time out. We'll come back

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Speaker 1: here from Dexter Lawrence in the locker room. That and

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more as we continue on Giants Extra

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Speaker 1: Point Giants Fall to the Saints twenty six to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Giants tv dext Lawrence, one of the leaders on this team,

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Speaker 1: one of the captains, spoke to the media after the game.

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Speaker 2: Let's listening.

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Speaker 12: We ain't played well enough.

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Speaker 9: I feel like end of the day, we beat ourselves.

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Speaker 7: A lot of players though.

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Speaker 9: You just can't have to win a football game.

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Speaker 12: And that's that's how it went.

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Speaker 7: We lost.

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Speaker 6: They had a couple of long drives on you guys's

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Speaker 6: going on America?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's gonna happen sometimes. But I think

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Speaker 9: we finished them joy as well. We had them to

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Speaker 9: field goals. They missed some field goals, so I mean

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Speaker 9: it's part of the game. You just got to defend

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Speaker 9: the grass where you at and keep going next.

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Speaker 19: How much work did you have to do just to

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Speaker 19: be ready to play again?

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Speaker 9: A lot, man, A lot on the mental for sure,

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Speaker 9: But uh, you know, I wanted to be here for

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Speaker 9: the guys, and you know, and and and play as

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Speaker 9: much as I could. Coach Dre did a good job,

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Speaker 9: you know, taking care of me out there and you know,

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Speaker 9: listening to me and and you know, letting me do

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Speaker 9: what I can do.

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Speaker 12: Why do you have a comedy.

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Speaker 13: I'm probably in.

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Speaker 7: That last week today.

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Speaker 9: Uh, I think you gotta watch the tape.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think you gotta watch it.

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Speaker 12: I think you gotta watch the tape.

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Speaker 13: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think we did not dominate.

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Speaker 9: You know, they they got the ball off quick a

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Speaker 9: lot most of the time when they did it, you know,

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Speaker 9: we got that's what we got, you know, pressured.

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Speaker 12: But I I wouldn't say we didn't dominate. Okay, you

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Speaker 12: a lot of the young guys that are in this

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Speaker 12: locker room. For you as a veteran, you know what

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Speaker 12: a short week is like.

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Speaker 8: Is it more taxing physically or mentally to move on

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Speaker 8: and get.

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Speaker 1: Ready for the game?

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Speaker 7: Probably both?

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Speaker 9: Really, I said, I feel like you have your mental

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Speaker 9: right most mo your f it was cool, be all

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Speaker 9: right most of the time.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 9: We just got to hi, Drake, you know, take care

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Speaker 9: of do the things you do later in a week,

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Speaker 9: earlier in the week, and you know, get ready to play.

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Speaker 19: We said that Jackson did maybe you said it or

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Speaker 19: ready to you know after his first loss, yere, I

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Speaker 19: haven't spoke to him yet, But just shake it, man,

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Speaker 19: like you just shake it and you move on to

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Speaker 19: the next play.

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Speaker 12: It's gonna happen. You're gonna You're gonna have games like that,

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Speaker 12: but you just shake it and move on. You don't

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Speaker 12: let them stack.

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Speaker 7: You think you'll be able to do that. I think so.

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Speaker 1: Well, Antiki, he better because you got three and a

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Speaker 1: half days here to get ready for the or four

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Speaker 1: days from now to get ready for the quick turnaround.

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Speaker 3: It's quick turnaround for the Eagles, who are who are

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Speaker 3: good teams. Despite their loss today, they haven't been running

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Speaker 3: the ball as well as they did a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Sakwan Barkley only has two hundred and thirty seven yards

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Speaker 3: in five games this season, yet there's still four and one,

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Speaker 3: and they found ways to closely win games. They played

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Speaker 3: it close to the vest again today, but the Denver

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Speaker 3: Broncos made some plays down the stretch and ultimately he

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Speaker 3: came away with a victory after a last ditch effort

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Speaker 3: by the Eagle. So you know they're going to be hungry.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be meaningful to them, as it

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Speaker 3: always is because it's a division game against the heated

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Speaker 3: and hated rival with the Giants. So the Giants got

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Speaker 3: their work cutout for him. But he's right about Jackson

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Speaker 3: dart and what he needs to do this is it's

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Speaker 3: hard because you're emotional after games like this, especially when

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Speaker 3: you don't play well in flushing. It takes some It

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Speaker 3: takes some maturity. It takes them putting it away, looking

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Speaker 3: at what you did wrong, committing yourself to not doing

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Speaker 3: it again. I'll tucking the ball when you're trying to

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Speaker 3: scramble and run instead of fumbling it and then finding

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Speaker 3: ways to get better in the subsequent weeks. But again,

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Speaker 3: the challenge that we talked about is who's he getting

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Speaker 3: the ball to? Who are his big play threats? Who

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Speaker 3: can he rely upon to make big things happen in

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Speaker 3: this game? And we're still waiting for that player to emerge.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure who.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that was the theme of our

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Speaker 1: pregame show, right other than Jackson are taking on his

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Speaker 1: second start, was how would the Giants survive in their

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Speaker 1: passing game without Molik Neighbors? And to be honest, the

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Speaker 1: only returns are not positive Tiki No.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was the tight ends, and the tight

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Speaker 3: ends were good. You give them credit for what they

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Speaker 3: were able to accomplish early in this game, but who

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Speaker 3: was threatening anyone down the field.

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Speaker 2: He answers no one.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we had not even mentioned this

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Speaker 1: play before. At the end of the game. It was

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Speaker 1: a contested catch, there was some contact, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hye had a chance to catch the ball down

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Speaker 1: the left sideline too, that had him in both ends

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Speaker 1: and he could have come.

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Speaker 2: Up with that game right. And so that's where.

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Speaker 3: There is a skill to catching contested balls. Elik Neighbors

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Speaker 3: just has it innately. You just see him going through

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Speaker 3: contact and he's he gets his hands or body on

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Speaker 3: the football.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's body controlling strength, tiki. Those are the

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Speaker 2: two things, but.

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Speaker 3: It's also a little bit of want to, Like you

1241
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: have to understand leverage. It's one of the things that

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00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: is I wrestled when I was growing up, and so

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00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: I loved it because it taught me leverage, Like how

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Speaker 3: when somebody is leaning on me, I can still take

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Speaker 3: control of that little instant And so I don't I

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00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: think the Giants receivers lack that. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you practice it, but it's something that you have

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: or you don't have. And in today's NFL, when you're

1249
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Speaker 3: in a tight coverage situation.

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00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: You got to be able to win.

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: You got to be able to get free and put

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Speaker 3: your body in position to make a catch, and we

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Speaker 3: didn't see.

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Speaker 2: That enough today or really at all.

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Speaker 1: Please stick with us if you are listening on our

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00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: local flagstip station WFN here in New York, but otherwise,

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Speaker 1: it is time to say goodbye to our affiliates across

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Speaker 1: the country on the Giants Radio Network. Our next broadcast

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00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: will come your way on Thursday night when the Giants

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00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: take on the Philadelphia Eagles at home on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Football pre game coverage across our network will begin at

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Speaker 1: seven fifteen. Thank you so much for being with us today,

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00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: and again, if you're a Giants fan you want some

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Speaker 1: content during the week big We'll kickoff Live comings Away

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Speaker 1: you check out the Giants Hutle podcast as well. We

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00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: have some great interviews. We have The Giants Hangout, which

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00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: is kind of a fun little back and forth show

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Speaker 1: that we do, and Draft Season our Draft podcast. Make

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00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,600
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Speaker 1: Giants podcast network.

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Speaker 2: The Giants Huddle Podcast. Thank you so much for being

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 1: The Giants fall to one and four and they lose

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: to the Saints twenty six to fourteen. We'll see on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night on the WFAN Giants Radio.

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00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: Network, but we're still with you right.

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Speaker 1: Here on WFAN in New York. Tiky and I will

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Speaker 1: take your calls eight eight eight eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight one zero one to nine.

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Speaker 1: We'll get a couple more of guys from the locker

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00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: room as well, while though Robinson Brian Burns will join

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00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: us that and a whole lot more, and we will

1285
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: of course take your calls and break down the game

1286
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: when we return right here on the fan.

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Speaker 20: This is Brian Burns and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 20: on the Fan w f A N and w f

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Speaker 20: AN FM, New York.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra point. Giants fall to

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Speaker 1: the Saints twenty six to fourteen. ITA wate one zero

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Speaker 1: one nine eighty eight ITA wate one zero one nine.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones.

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Speaker 1: Went from Brian Burns on stats in a second, but

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Speaker 1: we have some calls I want to get you in.

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Speaker 2: Let's leave things off with Steven Naples. Steve, what's going on?

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Speaker 23: Wondel Robinson, who doesn't Hey, hey guys.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 23: So if I see another if I see another screen

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Speaker 23: pass to Wandell Robinson out in the flat, who doesn't

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Speaker 23: have the speed or the strength to get out of

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Speaker 23: a break, what I think they should do? You know,

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 23: they're gonna have to look to the draft next year.

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 23: Dominic Miller in the preseason definitely has the speed, can

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 23: be in the slot, had some chemistry with dark Also,

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Speaker 23: none of the Giants receivers other than the tight ends,

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00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 23: can hold on to the darn ball. So you know what,

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00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 23: bring back little Jordan on Free.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, he may not be the fast.

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Speaker 2: Surprise he didn't get called up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised he didn't called up for this one.

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Speaker 23: He's got he's he may not be the fastest, but

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Speaker 23: he's got the strength to move the sticks. Slayton Hyatt.

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Speaker 13: They can't hold on to the ball.

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Speaker 23: I mean, I have to tell you, you know, if there

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Speaker 23: weren't so many drops and we didn't waste time with

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Speaker 23: Wandell Robinson for the past couple of years. Please, they

1318
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 23: need a Pooka Nakula. They need a Lad McConkey. There's

1319
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 23: a good example of what they need a guy who

1320
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 23: can quickly get in and out of those breaks.

1321
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think I think route running is one.

1322
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: You're one hundred pc right about this Steve.

1323
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: And he's not a fast I mean lot Mkalky's not

1324
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: a powerful guy that's breaking.

1325
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: Town, but he's a very good route runner.

1326
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: The challenge is that they had the league neighbors and

1327
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: then but you always need a number two, right go

1328
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: look at the Minnesota Vikings. Uh they got they got

1329
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: two really good wide receivers.

1330
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: You go look at Uh.

1331
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: I don't know whoever has been really good over the

1332
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles, they have two really good wide received

1333
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys Pickens and when Ced goes down, George Pickens

1334
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: just picks right up where he left off. The slack

1335
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: is there is no slack and that the Giants they

1336
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: don't they don't have that that that depth, that that

1337
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: roster at impactful wide receiver to be competitive in some

1338
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: of these games. And so it's just it's frustrating, but

1339
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: it's also part of roster building and part of where

1340
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: the Giants need to improve on.

1341
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: We know that it's there, but they just haven't quite

1342
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: got it together yet. And I would say throwing. I

1343
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: think he had one screen pass, they had a Wando Robinson.

1344
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: That would be the least of the teams today. Now

1345
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: you're right, that isn't the thing that I would necessarily bring

1346
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: up today as a reason the Giants lost.

1347
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: But I think the bigger issue teak.

1348
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: He is again second straight week no completions of twenty

1349
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: more yard. Yeah, they don't have big plays, they don't

1350
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: have big play making ability, but they had the opportunity today,

1351
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: which is why it was so frustrating.

1352
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah was I mean with the Darius Slayton drops in

1353
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: the you know, the contested ball on the on the

1354
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: on the Yeah, exactly, on the Jackson Dart underthrow, Jalen

1355
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: Hyatt had a chance to make a play on the ball.

1356
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: You really miss in some ways Tyrone and Tracy. I

1357
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: know that he is not a wide receiver, but he

1358
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: is one of those players who can go to the

1359
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: house for you, right if if he gets in a

1360
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 3: cutback lane or gets in the space, you trust that

1361
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: he can do that. But he's banged up with the shoulder.

1362
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: And again this isn't a knock on Cam Scataboos as

1363
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: a runner, because I love the way he runs on

1364
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: that fourth down that they did that end around to

1365
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 3: Wandell Robinson.

1366
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: When you go back and you see the.

1367
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: You see the replay of that, watch Cam Scataboo. Cam

1368
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: Scataboo takes Granderson, Carl Granderson and drives him at least

1369
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: six yards off the ball and plants him. I mean,

1370
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: it's it is an unbelievable block for a running back

1371
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: on a lead block. But that's all great and fine

1372
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: and dandy makes him an awesome football player. But in

1373
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: the NFL in twenty twenty five, you need big plays.

1374
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: The Giants don't have the ability to do that right now.

1375
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you want to win more games and

1376
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: score more points, that's what you're going to have to do.

1377
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Harvey and Dix Hills. Harvey,

1378
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: what's going on, man, Harvey?

1379
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: What's up? Man?

1380
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 24: Pretty good? We're still talking about the turf the next week. Okay,

1381
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 24: they gotta they gotta work this out a cleat. So

1382
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 24: the turf of the grass, it's getting dangerous and slippy

1383
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 24: out there.

1384
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're talking about it. The in New Orleans.

1385
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: Every everybody slipped. It was every other series somebody was

1386
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: going down. Both team I will remind people.

1387
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: Has everyone that watched the Super Bowl last year and

1388
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: everyone was slipping the sign all over the place on

1389
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: a grass field, So that was a grass field. So

1390
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: it happens on all sorts of services, Harvey.

1391
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 24: But they actually took the grass from outside. They didn't

1392
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 24: plant it in the thing, so that they claimed that

1393
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 24: there was a lot of moist and anyway, you.

1394
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: Know grass indoors, Harvey, that's not grass does not growing domes.

1395
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: That's that's not that's not how photosynthesis work.

1396
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: Well, not necessarily. There's some stadiums in Europe soccer stadium

1397
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 3: which is with the infrared, right they have.

1398
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: It's grown. We don't have the resources to do that,

1399
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: but go ahead hard anyway.

1400
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 24: I've been always interested in rin zone offense, and I

1401
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 24: know it's called the red zone, but I've had my

1402
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 24: own system that nobody has to pay attention to. Coughlin

1403
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 24: called it the green zone side for years, I divided

1404
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 24: into the green zone being fifteen yards and the blue

1405
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 24: zone being the last five yards because it's a completely

1406
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 24: different game. When you're down in the so called red

1407
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 24: zone near the end zone, you can go all the

1408
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 24: way down downfield and sail in that particular what I

1409
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 24: called the green and the blue zone. That's something the Giants.

1410
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 24: Giants actually did pretty good today, but that needs to

1411
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 24: be consistent. The other thing what was ticky? And on defense? Okay,

1412
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 24: last year I brought up the fact that on the

1413
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 24: defensive side that the Giants don't blitz enough, and John

1414
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 24: Rifley so smelts next year said that it's better to

1415
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 24: blitz with four or three down linemen rather than depending

1416
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 24: on the blitz. But still I want to number one

1417
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 24: today blitz enough. Number two, what was the coverage on

1418
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 24: an eighty seven yard touchdown pass? Rashid didn't seem to

1419
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 24: be anybody back there, and Carl had said that maybe

1420
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 24: the linebacker should have engaged the receiver. Do you agree

1421
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 24: with that? What do you think happened?

1422
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you, Harvey. Just a couple of thinks.

1423
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: Should the Giants first thing? Shouldn't the Giants have blitzed more?

1424
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: Yes? But it's hard against this particular team.

1425
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: And the reason is because Chris Olave, Alvin Kamara and

1426
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: Rashid Shahed are so good one on one and in space,

1427
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 3: and so if you're bringing an extra guy, whether it's

1428
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: six or maybe you're trying to do seven, you're creating

1429
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: one on one opportunities that are doing result in massive plays.

1430
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: Last weekend, the Giants played a lot of zone behind

1431
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: some of the pressure looks that they had, and so

1432
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: it frustrated Justin Herbert and so they were able.

1433
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: To make a lot of plays and limit any explosives.

1434
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: This week, I think they tried to do the same

1435
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: thing and they it creates a bend, don't break defense,

1436
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: And it's exactly what Dexter Lawrence said, and he was talking,

1437
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna give up some first downs, but once you

1438
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 3: get into that red area where the plate it gets

1439
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 3: tighter and there's not as much space, it gets harder

1440
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: for an offense to you know, complete passes and to

1441
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: make big shots, until ultimately they locked it down and

1442
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 3: led them at.

1443
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: The field goals.

1444
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: Now on the one big play that they gave up,

1445
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: John and I talked about this a little bit earlier

1446
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: on the post game. I haven't seen it re seen it,

1447
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 3: but my initial thought was that it was cover six,

1448
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: So cover six is cover two to one side, So

1449
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: the far side of the field as we were watching

1450
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: it was cover two. So some corner in the flat

1451
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: safety cover in the dpath on this side, it's cover four,

1452
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: so you have two deep safeties. The challenge was the

1453
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: route was perfectly designed so that there was an out

1454
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: route underneath the corner or the post corner. So Rashid

1455
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 3: Shaheed ran a post, so he's running to the middle

1456
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: of the field, attracting Tyler Nuban, and then he runs

1457
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: out into a corner, so Tyler Newman is now in

1458
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: man coverage while the corner, who is also the deep

1459
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: quarter half, is stuck on this out route.

1460
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: That's coming to him.

1461
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: So it was it was just a great design play

1462
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: that was able to take advantage of of of that

1463
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: particular defense that they were running. And Shaheed is so fast,

1464
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: Tyler Nuban was the unfortunately worst player you could have

1465
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: had on him, simply because of math. Tyler Nuben's a

1466
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: four or five guy. Rashid Shaheed's a four to two,

1467
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: four to three guy.

1468
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: That's correct, and heading into this week, taking I'll give

1469
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: Harvey the numbers the Giants who are eighth in blitz

1470
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: rate heading into this week. But today again d this

1471
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: is early charting by Pro Football Focus. They only blitzed

1472
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: on six of thirty five passes. So they did, and

1473
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: that is the third lowest. Right Now, you're never going.

1474
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: To do it against a team like this because there's

1475
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: so much speed on this team Shaheed.

1476
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: Olave and Kamara.

1477
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: If you let them in space and it's just you,

1478
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: him and one of your guys, they're going to win.

1479
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: And they also don't do a lot of straight drop

1480
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: back but backs either, which is also a part of

1481
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: the issue as well. All right, let's go to Richie

1482
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: and Queens. Richie, what's up, Ritchie? Ritchie?

1483
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 13: Hey, what's that man?

1484
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 21: A good talking deep Yeah, we spoke Saturday. Yep, you know,

1485
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 21: I'm my feeling again sometimes again the old guy in

1486
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 21: the balcony I said the same thing. I said, they

1487
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 21: have no threats offensively at this point. But there's no

1488
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 21: running back and threat. There's no deep receiverd threat. They

1489
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 21: just they just make again no sacks. We talked about

1490
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 21: the only way to beat this team. Bretts in bolo

1491
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 21: average quarterback. He threw for seventy sixty six percent, no interceptions,

1492
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 21: no sacks. You can say whatever you want, teak with

1493
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 21: this team. You know that is they're close.

1494
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 13: They not.

1495
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 21: They're just a terrible team at this point.

1496
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 13: And I want to give them.

1497
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 21: The benefit, and we thought, yes, you could say this signs,

1498
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 21: but I've seen signs for nine different quarterbacks.

1499
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Ritchie, what's funny is that they're worse. It's

1500
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: the same story, but for different reasons. That makes sense,

1501
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's not it's not it's

1502
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: not as it's not as if you look at this

1503
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: team and say, God, they're just terrible. They don't have

1504
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 3: enough talent. They have the talent, it's just the execution,

1505
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: isn't there.

1506
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 21: Wait, where's the real talent?

1507
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 13: OCHI?

1508
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: They have three great they have three really good.

1509
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: Two of them I think are great pass rushers, and

1510
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter and Brian Burns.

1511
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: As well. Dexa.

1512
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: Lawrence is an All Pro d tackle. Andrew Thomas. Andrew

1513
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: Thomas is a great offensive tackle.

1514
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 21: Would you would you say that Thibodeau or would you

1515
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 21: say that a great?

1516
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 7: No?

1517
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: I think he's good.

1518
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: He's a very good player. I think Brian Burns is great.

1519
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: He's leading the league in sacks, or at least he

1520
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 3: was going into this game. I think the Carter is

1521
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: going to be fantastic in this league. But the challenge

1522
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: is putting it all together. And now they're young. So

1523
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: when I talk about you know, it feels like the

1524
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: same old story, but as different reasons. It's the same

1525
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: old story because you get interceptions, you get turnovers, you

1526
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: get fumbles.

1527
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: You kill yourself, put yourself.

1528
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: But in this in this case today, it was because

1529
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: you got Jackson Dart who fumbles, Jackson Dard who throws

1530
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: two interceptions. Again, both of those we kind of excused

1531
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: because they weren't fully on him. And then you got

1532
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: camp Skataboo, who as you love, but he's a rookie

1533
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 3: and he, you know, gets careless with the football around

1534
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 3: Lona scrim Is any fumbles and.

1535
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: Richie to your point, Ritchie real quick you asked about

1536
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: why they couldn't get any sacks in this game. Tip

1537
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: your captain Spencer Rattler. His average time to throw in

1538
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: this game was two point four to nine seconds. That

1539
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: is extremely, extremely low. So the Saints knew the Giants

1540
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: want to come into this game and try to rush

1541
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: the passer.

1542
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: So what do you do.

1543
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: You want a lot of play action, You move the

1544
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: pocket a lot, You do a lot of quick stuff.

1545
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: You max protect And I thought I will give Kellimore

1546
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: credit for this Tiki I thought they did a good job.

1547
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: Not letting the Giants pass rush. Yeah, thank you, Richie. No,

1548
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 3: you're right they didn't because the ball was out too quickly.

1549
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 3: There was never a moment where you felt Spencer Rattler

1550
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 3: holding the ball in the pocket, trying to find someone

1551
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 3: to get the ball to and here comes Brian Burns.

1552
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: Now they were there. They were in the vicinity. Fact,

1553
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: they almost they should have forced an interception.

1554
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 3: Right if they were there. If there were a second

1555
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: more that he had to hold the ball, it probably

1556
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: would have been five or six sacks in this game.

1557
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: But the ball got out quickly, and you got to

1558
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: give Spencer Rattler and Kellen Moore credit for designing something

1559
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: that mitigated what the Giant's biggest strength is, and that's

1560
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: their pass rush, all right. Speaking of the pass rush,

1561
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: Brian Burns spoke to the media after the game.

1562
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: Let's listen in momentum.

1563
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 20: Change, we couldn't get it back and when you started

1564
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,520
Speaker 20: hurting that sales.

1565
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 18: The one touchdown was the momentum change. His up the

1566
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 18: long touchdown pass was the momentum change or was it

1567
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 18: another play that.

1568
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 7: I feel like that was the start. When I tell

1569
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 7: you didn't have any sacks, like to see them.

1570
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 15: But that's what do you say when I tell you

1571
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 15: got just didn't have a sack and just gave.

1572
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 7: Like, what's your reaction?

1573
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 20: I wanted to be as respectful as possible, that's kind, But.

1574
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 7: We got what made it difficult for you to get

1575
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 7: pass rush goals?

1576
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 25: Uh?

1577
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 7: Basically the plow of the game was.

1578
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 20: You know, they was able to stay on track, you

1579
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 20: know with uh running the.

1580
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 7: Ball, quick passes. They kept it easy for ratings.

1581
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 20: You know, we could never really you know, hold onto

1582
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 20: a leader long enough to get into a situation where

1583
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 20: we knew.

1584
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 7: It it would be a past situation, you know.

1585
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 20: So like I said, once they took the momentum back,

1586
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 20: they was able to get back on track with what.

1587
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 7: They wanted to do. But what did they do in particular?

1588
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 20: Did they where they like to kind of prevent you guys,

1589
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 20: to slow you got talent or pass rushing?

1590
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 7: It was really quick passes. You know, it was a

1591
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 7: lot of uh dinking dunks.

1592
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 20: You know, it wasn't really a lot of drop back

1593
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 20: in my being, I feel like he was he was

1594
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 20: kind of shallow in the pocket.

1595
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 7: Other than that, they yeah, I don't know we couldn't

1596
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 7: find a groom. I mean, you knew that there's gonna

1597
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 7: be their game plan properly, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1598
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 20: I felt like it was going to change once we

1599
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 20: took the lead early on. I felt like that was

1600
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 20: gonna be like an opportunity for us to open up

1601
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 20: the game. But it didn't go that way when the

1602
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 20: stay you know, close that gap and then took the lead.

1603
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 7: Is is that a challenge though for a defensive front.

1604
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 18: I mean you can't always have it, you know, the

1605
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 18: way you wanted or needed right with the lead.

1606
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 7: It's a challenge. You know, it is a challenge. We

1607
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 7: still have to find a way to you know, get to.

1608
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 20: The quarterback and you don't get the ball up of

1609
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 20: it because that's the type of challenge and that's the

1610
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 20: kind of guys we got in their room and unless

1611
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 20: the resources alligated to it. So you know, we have

1612
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 20: to find a way. You know, we can't we can't

1613
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 20: allow nothing having no.

1614
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,879
Speaker 18: Just like we talked about, you know, whatever your quarterback,

1615
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 18: everybody's gotta kind of pitch it and had a little

1616
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 18: But it didn't seem like that happened today. So I

1617
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 18: guess how this pointing that.

1618
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 7: You can't win the game.

1619
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 20: You know that many turnovers and you know it's no no,

1620
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 20: no show to anybody.

1621
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 7: You understand that. That's just how this league is.

1622
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 20: You know, it's however many it was and we get zero.

1623
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 20: You know, the deepest has to be better, you know,

1624
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 20: and we have to be better to you know.

1625
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 7: Capitalize on those plays that we had.

1626
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 20: You know, we did have a pick, but it was

1627
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 20: a penalty that got called back. So yeah, so we

1628
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 20: gotta you know, be better in that in that aspect.

1629
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 7: Broad last week, you guys beat a team that hadn't lost.

1630
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 19: Did you think maybe this team as a group was

1631
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 19: a part above this kind.

1632
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 7: Of performance where you lose to a team that hadn't

1633
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 7: won a game.

1634
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: You know, you were trying to build some momento here

1635
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: for that.

1636
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 20: Yeah, every week, bro, it's any given Sunday, cause every

1637
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 20: Sunday is different.

1638
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 21: Man.

1639
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 20: You can't really go into any Sunday thinking like, I'm

1640
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 20: just gonna get this win. Yeah, you know, so that's

1641
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 20: kind of how I go about it.

1642
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 7: How much as you even near to said fipe straight turnovers?

1643
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 20: Is it something you guys even know this Sunday other

1644
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 20: side of the off I mean, yeah, I'm watching the game,

1645
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 20: you know, and you know they were unfortunate, you know,

1646
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 20: fumble here, fumble, they're the one that went back for

1647
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 20: a touchdown. You know, I feel like we did a

1648
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 20: good job as far as stopping them in the red

1649
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 20: zone and things of that nature. We just didn't help

1650
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 20: the team, but without getting they turnovers to you know,

1651
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 20: combat what they were.

1652
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: Doing well, Tiki.

1653
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: I think Burns talked a little bit about why they

1654
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of sacks in this game, and

1655
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: just and another thing we talked about previously in the

1656
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 1: pregame is that the defense, aside again that one interception

1657
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: that got forced by the pass rush but got called

1658
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: back because of the defensive pass interference penalty, they didn't

1659
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: make enough plays.

1660
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: Themselves to turn the momentum back towards the Giants. Yeah,

1661
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 2: they know that.

1662
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: And then then you know, the Giants offense was faltering

1663
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: and skittering, and they needed a way to lift them

1664
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 3: up and pick them up. That's what That's what good

1665
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: teams do, is when one side is is not holding

1666
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: their their their side of the bargain, they get picked up.

1667
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 2: By the other side.

1668
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: And it just it just wasn't the case in this game,

1669
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 3: and again I hate to keep saying it, but I

1670
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 3: will credit tot They didn't make mistakes, they didn't put

1671
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 3: themselves in position to be compromised like the Giants were,

1672
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 3: and they just played what was given them. They were

1673
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 3: desperate for their first win and they got it at home,

1674
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 3: and so hats off to them, but so much of

1675
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 3: it was given to them by the New York Giants offense.

1676
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 3: Lad McConkie just had an unbelievable public's run for a

1677
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 3: touchdown that I believe is going to be I believe

1678
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: it's going to get called back because of it running

1679
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: into the kicker penalty, but he hurdled two guys on

1680
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: the way for a touchdown. And by the way, for

1681
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 3: Yankee fans out there, if you don't bother turning the

1682
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 3: game on, it's eleven nothing Toronto with two outs in

1683
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: the fifth inning, World War and had to come in

1684
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: and I believe he just gave up another home run.

1685
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 3: So now it is twelve to nothing Toronto, and we

1686
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 3: will be joining coverage of Yankees right after this postgame

1687
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: ends here on the.

1688
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: Fan quick time out. We'll come back.

1689
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 1: I see a bunch of people still in the line

1690
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: We'll take your calls at eight eight eight eight oh

1691
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: eight one zero one to nine right here on the fan.

1692
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: The Giants lose to the Saints twenty six to fourteen.

1693
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: Backyard Giants extra point, taking your calls at eight eight

1694
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: eight eight one zero one nine until Yankee Baseball comes

1695
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: your way. After our postgame show, let's go to Lennonston Island.

1696
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: He's up next Highland.

1697
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 13: How you doing, guys? So on the season ticket hold though, Okay,

1698
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 13: I don't want to hear us dissecting this game how

1699
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 13: it was played. I'm tired of it, Okay, Now, Tiki,

1700
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 13: last week you said, well, we have some big time players,

1701
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 13: but they're just not getting it done. Yeah, we might

1702
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 13: have some talent, but we keep losing. You know, I

1703
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 13: don't care if they Able gets fired and I'd like

1704
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 13: to see him stay. But there's a lot of guys

1705
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 13: out there on the internet saying she gets fired.

1706
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: Right, But he's got to earn He's got to earn

1707
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: his job next year. That's that just is what it is.

1708
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to defend Dave's I like I like David.

1709
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 13: Why why Ah? Evidently we're not that good. They run

1710
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 13: on us they throw on us. Right, the offensive line

1711
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 13: is not that good. We don't have that many receivers.

1712
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 13: We have a few good players, right that pass rush guys.

1713
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 13: But I mean it's a problem. It's just year after

1714
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 13: ye and now the only thing is do we have

1715
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 13: a quarter If we have a quarterback, if God is

1716
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 13: going to be our quarterback, then at least we have

1717
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 13: that and we could go from there.

1718
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: You know.

1719
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, he gives you when you have a good quarterback,

1720
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 3: it gives you a chance. He can make up for

1721
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 3: mistakes as long as he doesn't make mistakes himself.

1722
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: But the point right now, he's not ready to be

1723
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: that guy.

1724
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: Of course, his second start and he didn't get the

1725
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: help he needed today.

1726
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 3: But the game, let's face it, John, when we talked

1727
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 3: about this offseason with after the Jackson Dart draft, Yeah,

1728
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 3: and we knew that maybe if the Giants got off

1729
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: to a rough start, he was gonna see some time.

1730
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 3: A lot of people were telling we're saying, just resist

1731
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 3: the urge. He's got to develop, he's got to learn.

1732
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: But now he's and this is Dave's call, learning in

1733
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: real time.

1734
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely right.

1735
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 3: These mistakes and again it's a stupid mistake to scramble

1736
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 3: carrying the ball like a loaf of bread and fumble

1737
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,440
Speaker 3: it without even getting contact, you know, contacted.

1738
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a rookie mistake.

1739
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 13: Yep.

1740
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: And I don't think it'll see it again because we

1741
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 3: saw it in painful fashion because it was it is

1742
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 3: such a critical moment and the game, and he knew it.

1743
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: You saw if you were watching the TV broadcast of it.

1744
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 3: He's got his hands on his head. He's just he's

1745
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: completely disgusted because he knows he just cost this not

1746
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: necessary at that point the game, but probably the game.

1747
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: And he said in his postgame press or too.

1748
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: And so you learn those things by doing him an

1749
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 3: experience in them. And I and look, I know this

1750
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: only because I went through it. I had fumbling issues

1751
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 3: in my career, and in real time, I couldn't have

1752
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 3: told you what the future was going to be. But

1753
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 3: now that my career is over and it's and I

1754
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 3: have I can look back on it and with critical eyes.

1755
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: It was important for.

1756
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: Me to figure out how to carry a football physically

1757
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 3: the correct way so that didn't become a liability for

1758
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 3: my team and I can help my team win and

1759
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 3: get to the postseason, but it took time to do that.

1760
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 3: The challenge is that when I was or the difference

1761
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: is that when I was coming through the gen weren't

1762
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 3: bad five eight years in a row, right, I was

1763
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 3: just kind of a piece of it, a a of

1764
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: a program. Now the Giants are looking for savior, the

1765
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: Giant fans are looking for the savior, and then the

1766
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 3: savior comes in a sense. And I'm not using this

1767
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: in any kind of way other than just he's just

1768
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: a good player. He's young and he's not quite ready

1769
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 3: for it.

1770
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: So it's difficult.

1771
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: It's difficult to process what you what you need to have,

1772
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: which is patience with this young quarterback, because I do

1773
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: think he's a good player, but he's got he's gonna

1774
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 3: learn the hard way sometimes.

1775
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Antiki, look, Lenn said, you know, we kind of

1776
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: asking the question, well, if we have the quarterback, we

1777
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 1: can feel good about the future.

1778
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, you're not going to know.

1779
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 1: You might not even know by the end of this

1780
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: year whether or not he's your long term quarterback. That's

1781
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: just the nature of the position. Bronco fans all thought

1782
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: bon Nix was their guy for the next fifteen years.

1783
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: I know they beat Philadelphia today, but it has not

1784
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: gone well for me, and it's very average this year.

1785
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: This year, it just hasn't gone well. And that's the

1786
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: nature of the quarterback position. You're just not going to

1787
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: know until you see him on the field for a

1788
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: long period of time. So to your point, you're gonna

1789
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: have to live with the errors. You're gonna live with

1790
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: the mistakes. You're gonna have to live with the losses

1791
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: that come with those, some of those mistakes along the way,

1792
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. He's a rookie quarterback. Not everyone

1793
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: iss CJ. Stroud and his rookie year. Not everyone as

1794
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels in their rookie year, especially when you're not

1795
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: a top five pick, right that that's just the nature

1796
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: of the beast of playing in the National Football League

1797
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: and Giant fans. I know you're frustrated, and you should be.

1798
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: The last ten years have not been fun. I get it,

1799
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: But you have to be realistic with a rookie quarterback

1800
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 1: and what that's going to look.

1801
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 3: Like, right, And it's sometimes it's gonna look ugly, other

1802
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: times it's gonna look really inspirational.

1803
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, absolutely, eight one zero one nine, Let's

1804
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: go to nas in Pennsylvania.

1805
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: NOAs what's going on? What's happening?

1806
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 25: Hey, how you doing, guys, We're gonna just want to stay.

1807
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 25: I really appreciate all the content you guys do throughout

1808
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 25: the week and it really helps with my long drives

1809
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 25: from work. And I also want to just wish my

1810
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 25: little sister a happy birthday this weekend, and.

1811
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: I love very much.

1812
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 25: How old is she not, my little sister, Nadine. She

1813
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 25: just turned twenty five years old.

1814
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: Happy birthday.

1815
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 3: No, she's she's she's driving legal now, she can she

1816
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 3: can rent the car.

1817
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: Not that exactly.

1818
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 26: Let's not.

1819
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 13: Let's not.

1820
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 25: Let's not remind her.

1821
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: About that, all.

1822
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 25: Right, Listen, I really don't want to like pull up

1823
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 25: the litany and the big list of what this team

1824
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 25: has been through the last ten years, because we can

1825
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 25: be here all day. But when you're seeing all these

1826
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 25: turnovers in the red zone and just the lack of

1827
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 25: detail and kind of you know, really Lucy goosey with

1828
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 25: the ball, and you think that you're playing a team

1829
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 25: that you should win, you should be and they're kind

1830
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 25: of on your weight class at Carl Banks like to

1831
01:20:55,240 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 25: refer to is that is that something. Do we to

1832
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 25: coaching staff on that? Do we point to the players

1833
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 25: on that? Because listen, I'm not really trying to I

1834
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 25: don't want to fire coaches.

1835
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 13: I don't want to.

1836
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 25: Fire general managers anymore. But what do we have to

1837
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 25: like turn to when we see results like that where

1838
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 25: we really I really don't feel like the Saints earned

1839
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 25: this win today. I really felt feel in my heart

1840
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 25: of hearts that the Giants really gave.

1841
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 13: It to them.

1842
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they they hurt themselves.

1843
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 13: Point that.

1844
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: God, it's such a good question.

1845
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: It's a great question, right, It's just it's so it's

1846
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: hard to to be optimistic and realize that this truly

1847
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 1: was a lost game. The Giants were in complete command

1848
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: early in this game. Two straight drives, two touchdowns. It

1849
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: felt like they could.

1850
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: Do it over and over and over again.

1851
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: Fourteen to three and Darius Lane for fifty yards, and

1852
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: so you missed that one play and instead of being

1853
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: able to rebound, they just kind of fall apart.

1854
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 2: Right. It's like we had that one shot and we

1855
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: we we.

1856
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: Missed it, and instead of coming back and continue to

1857
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 3: do it you did on those first two drives, you

1858
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: just start to fall completely apart. And look, I give

1859
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: Kafka and Dabs for calling that flee flicker because it

1860
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 3: was who thought they were doing that. It's give the

1861
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: ball to Camp's gataboo, get a yard, continue to drive.

1862
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 3: And by the way, I love it becas it's third

1863
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 3: and one a midfield, you're gonna go for it on

1864
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 3: fourth down anyway.

1865
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: Take your shot.

1866
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 3: It's a great play call and it's just poorly executed.

1867
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: And so all of a sudden, every bit of momentum,

1868
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 3: it started to like sputter with the drop Darius Slayton

1869
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 3: play and then the third and one it just completely

1870
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 3: conked out and the Saints took control and you know,

1871
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 3: really never looked back from there. So like when you

1872
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 3: think about how this disaster of a loss happened, it

1873
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 3: was all the Giants. It was nothing to do with

1874
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: the Saints being excess. It was the Giants making mistake

1875
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 3: after mistake after mistake.

1876
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I get it, and you got to

1877
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: figure that out. And the Giants, look, they I think

1878
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,879
Speaker 1: the way when I look at the game like this, Tiki,

1879
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: this is an aberration game, Like you're not gonna have

1880
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: games or you turn it over five times. That happens

1881
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: once maybe every couple of seasons. Right, So I think

1882
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: the way I like to look at it, when you're

1883
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: trying to project ahead, all right, well, if this game

1884
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: was you know, a negative one, if it was even

1885
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: turnover ratio, who's the better team on the field? And

1886
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: I think you think the Giants were probably the better team.

1887
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 1: They were, Now does that matter today? They were also

1888
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 1: the worst team because of all the mistakes they make, bingo,

1889
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: And that doesn't matter today. Giant fans should be furious today.

1890
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Brian Dable was furious day. You heard his voice in

1891
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: the post game. He was despondent over this loss. But

1892
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: when you project what things might look like and again

1893
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: next week on Thursday, Eagles, that's a whole another deal.

1894
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: Playing them against playing the Saints.

1895
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: But when you're playing more teams in your weight class,

1896
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: and again there aren't many of them left on the schedule,

1897
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't make these types of mistakes.

1898
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: I know, if if some butts were candies and nuts

1899
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: of all that stuff, right, it should look better, not

1900
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: something that makes it feel better today. But when you

1901
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: project how good your team is, you kind of have

1902
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: to think about it that way too.

1903
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 3: I agree, And so it's it's it's easy to get

1904
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 3: upset about this. And from a player's standpoint, this is

1905
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: just a player standpoint, not a fan standpoint. You just

1906
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 3: you flush it. You realize we missed the opportunity. If

1907
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: we're gonna be anything worth any bit of a damn,

1908
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 3: we can't hurt ourselves because we're not good enough.

1909
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 7: Right.

1910
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: The reality is, you win a game, you start to

1911
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: feel good about yourself. Sometimes you need to be humbled

1912
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 3: when you start to feel good about yourself. That's what

1913
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 3: the Saints game was. And I had nothing to do

1914
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: with the Saints and what they did to the Giants.

1915
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 3: It was the Giants doing it to.

1916
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: Themselves, which makes it that much worse. All right, let's

1917
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: go to Mike and Clifton Park. Mike, what's going on.

1918
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 26: Hey, guys, great show of course to a listen. Uh

1919
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 26: so I'll give it three points here?

1920
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: Sure?

1921
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 26: First, sure, so the rookie quarterback got them to a

1922
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 26: fourteen six lead. Then so that's that's point one four

1923
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 26: fourteen three, Oh yeah, fourteen three. And then the Shane

1924
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 26: Bowen defense going back to last year, didn't uh stop them.

1925
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 26: You know, Jackson Dart did what he had to do.

1926
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 26: Defense needed to step up. Then Slayton didn't step up.

1927
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 26: So I'm hoping in twenty twenty six, I see Jackson

1928
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 26: Dark and horrorbog Get shaken loose from the Ravens.

1929
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: The coaching good luck with that one.

1930
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 26: Not outsteaming. They're not outscheaming a bad team, they're not.

1931
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 26: So Jackson Dark did what he had to do, but

1932
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 26: everyone else around him failed, and that's how I see it,

1933
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 26: and the coaches are failing. So that's it, guy, Thank.

1934
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: You appreciate it. The Saints only a thirty three and

1935
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: thirty two yards of offense. I know that's not a lot,

1936
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: of course it's not.

1937
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 3: And eighty seven of that is on one place, which really,

1938
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 3: you know, you can't take it away because but it was.

1939
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Outside of one play. They hadw hundred and fifty yards offense.

1940
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: They only had one drive that went more than fifty

1941
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: five yards, and that was the eighty seven yard touchdown pass.

1942
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 3: Right in the Giants. I thought, contrary to the thought

1943
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 3: process now, I thought the Giants defense played okay. Again, sometimes,

1944
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 3: when as you know, a team can can move and

1945
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 3: not score touchdowns, you're doing a good job, especially when

1946
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 3: your offense is able to score asy as many points.

1947
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 2: It's key.

1948
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: It's frustrating to think about. But the Giants, the defense

1949
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: gave up one touchdown. I'm gonna put this a better way. Yes,

1950
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: you took it out of the words out of my mouth.

1951
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 1: The Giants defense gave up one touchdown.

1952
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: In this game, right right one.

1953
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: The other one was obviously an offensive touchdown, and then

1954
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 3: two field position jobs by the Giants offense giving the

1955
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: ball right back to the to the Saints. And so,

1956
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 3: I mean so much of this was on the Giants offense.

1957
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 3: It's hard to fault the defense is being not good.

1958
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Now again, they could have done better, made a play,

1959
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: got a sack, gotta pick any of that stuff, you know,

1960
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: not commit that defensive pass interference penalty on then interception.

1961
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: Again.

1962
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: If there's one big thing I'm taken away from the

1963
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 3: defense that it frustrated me, it was the pass interference.

1964
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Is the pis one. By the way, it's been all

1965
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: year with these story it hasn't just been this swot it.

1966
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:18,440
Speaker 2: It's stupidity.

1967
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: It's just you be smarter with your contact around receivers.

1968
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 3: Don't think that you got an incompletion or whatever, because

1969
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: you know the ball falls incomplete and you know that

1970
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 3: you cause the penalty and you think the referees not

1971
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 3: gonna see it, right, So be smart, don't be stupid,

1972
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: especially when you get turnovers. That if the Giants don't

1973
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 3: have that pass interference on Tay Banks and they get

1974
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: that pressured tipped in the air interception, they're in positive territory.

1975
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: They go up twenty one to six. Or I think

1976
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 3: if twenty one six at the time would have been

1977
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 3: this game is a completely completely different feel. I think

1978
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 3: it would have been twenty one three. Actually, I don't

1979
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 3: think they'd kick their second field goal, and all of

1980
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's the momentum starts to change and luck

1981
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't fall on your.

1982
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: Side, and ultimately the Saints take advantage. All right, we're

1983
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a time out. We got four calls in

1984
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: the line. I will get to all four of you

1985
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: when we get back. Then we'll get the Yankees baseball

1986
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Giants fall to the Saints twenty six to fourteen. You're

1987
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: listening to Giants Extra Point, Tiki Schmelk you on the

1988
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: phones when we come back right after this, back here

1989
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: on Giants extra Point, John Smelk, Tiki Barber with you.

1990
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: Giants fault to the Saints twenty six fourteen.

1991
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get my sequence. Nice please on because

1992
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: it was after the first Giants touchdown. They go down

1993
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: the field, bang bang bang, touchdown feels good. These Saints

1994
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: now have the ball. It's third and five. This is

1995
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 3: what I was alluding to. They get off the field

1996
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: on third down because there's pressure on Spencer Radler, the

1997
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 3: ball gets fluffed up in the air. J Von Holland

1998
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 3: intercepts it, but there's a pass interference on Tay Banks.

1999
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 3: What continues that drive? They go down and kick a

2000
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: field goal, making it seven to three. Then it becomes

2001
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 3: fourteen to three because the Giants didn't score on their

2002
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 3: subsequent drive. And then after that the Giants neck drive

2003
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 3: is the Darius Slayton dropped opportunity. Those are the things

2004
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 3: that drive you nuts, because if they go up fourteen

2005
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: nothing like that, bang bang, without and stealing a possession.

2006
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: It just it just feels different. I think the momentum

2007
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: is different in this game. So it's it's dumb plays,

2008
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: not smart high football IQ plays. They cost this Giants

2009
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 3: team early, and it was a it was a harbinger

2010
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 3: of bad things to come.

2011
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Right at the beginning of the game.

2012
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: Mark in Stanford, Connecticut. You are I'm next on Giants

2013
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: extra point Mark. What's going on?

2014
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 2: Man?

2015
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 11: Yeah? I mean I appreciate the you guys laying out

2016
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 11: the pros and the cons and and where there's been improvements.

2017
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 11: And hey, the offensive line was a little better and

2018
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 11: the defense didn't let up any touchdowns. I'm speaking for

2019
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 11: a lot of Giants fans right now.

2020
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 23: We're done.

2021
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 11: We're done.

2022
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 27: We don't want to hear it anymore. I don't want

2023
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 27: to hear the positive. I don't want to wake up

2024
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 27: tomorrow with on Wan and listen to oh it was this,

2025
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 27: it was that, or put on Carl Banks every week.

2026
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 27: We are done. Show me something new. It's been ten years,

2027
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:11,959
Speaker 27: ten years.

2028
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 11: I don't want excuses.

2029
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 27: I want you to to get on the air and

2030
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 27: just out of your mouth. Hey, they suck, they suck.

2031
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 13: It's over.

2032
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 27: I'm tired of it. All the Giants fans are tired

2033
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 27: of it. Everyone else sitting in traffic on the way

2034
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 27: home right now is tired of it. And that's it.

2035
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 27: So that's what I gotta say. And goodbye Giants, Goodbye

2036
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 27: the Yankees as well, another loser organization.

2037
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Good Bye nice all right, So I guess Big gets

2038
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: to the second out of the playoffs.

2039
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 2: Is a good enough. Now, I think you need to

2040
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: relax a little bit. Look, my job is to analyze

2041
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: what happened. Yeah, guys, I'm not show.

2042
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 3: I'm not giving you emotional opinions, or I will at times.

2043
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 3: And actually to start this this post game, I did

2044
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 3: and talked about how this is just it was just

2045
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 3: a failure, confluence of a lot of different things, including youth,

2046
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, stupidity and aptitude, all that stuff. I

2047
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 3: can tell you what's wrong with this team, but I

2048
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 3: also realize that there's there's a ton of football.

2049
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Left to be played, and we are here to try

2050
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 2: to give you answers.

2051
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: Right, It's one thing to say, look at one in

2052
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,839
Speaker 1: four is the chance they do anything this season?

2053
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Slim?

2054
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2055
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no one's no one's arguing that frustrated by it.

2056
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 2: Of course you're frustrated by it.

2057
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: The last twenty thirteen it has not gone well. We

2058
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: we understand that it has been bad. Right, but if

2059
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: we just sit here proclaim that we have a two

2060
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: hour postgame show, what else would you like us.

2061
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,520
Speaker 2: To say for an hour? Two hours?

2062
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: So, guys, the bottom line is this, We're trying to

2063
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: figure out what goes wrong, what's good and what's bad,

2064
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: so you could figure out ways to diagnose those issues

2065
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: and fix things.

2066
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: That's why we are here, right.

2067
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 3: It's not my job, per se to scream and yell.

2068
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm I played the game, so I get

2069
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 3: it in moments like this, and I understand it, and

2070
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 3: from a perspective of a player that you can be

2071
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 3: mad at things, but if you carry that with you,

2072
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 3: you're done.

2073
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: Man, you have no chance.

2074
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: And so I just I don't carry it with me.

2075
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 3: I analyze it and then I move on. And that's

2076
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 3: what I hope the Giants team is doing. And again,

2077
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 3: at the end of the season, if there is, there's

2078
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: gonna be evaluations that have to be made about a

2079
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 3: lot of players on this team. I mean a lot

2080
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: of them. Probably half or a third of this team

2081
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 3: might turn over after this year. There's going to be

2082
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 3: a major evaluation about the head coach, There's going to

2083
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 3: be a major evaluation.

2084
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: Around the general manager. There could be significant change.

2085
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: And by the way, there has been significant change over

2086
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: the last twelve seasons too, of course, of course.

2087
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 3: But the one thing that I look at that I

2088
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 3: can't help, but hope that didn't have optimism about is

2089
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 3: that Jackson Dart feels like even though he's young and

2090
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 3: he's learning, he has a little bit of what it takes. Yeah,

2091
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,919
Speaker 3: I agree with that, and so that's that's my biggest takeaway.

2092
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 3: He's gonna make a ton of mistakes, is gonna kill you.

2093
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 3: But that's what young rookies do. And if you ever

2094
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 3: listen to my show, I say it all the time

2095
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 3: on WFA and Evan and TIK.

2096
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: I hate rookies.

2097
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,759
Speaker 3: And this is the reason why There's been one rookie

2098
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 3: that I've trusted and and and I've seen for the Giants,

2099
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 3: and that was and that was Jeremy Shockey who didn't

2100
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 3: make mistakes, didn't get hurt, played did everything everybody else.

2101
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 3: I feel like at some point they're gonna let you down,

2102
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 3: and not that this is profound letting you down. Jackson,

2103
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: don't let you down today, right, he just didn't have

2104
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 3: a good day and it was a fumble, it was

2105
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 3: the turnovers all that. It's not all his fault, but

2106
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 3: he felt like I know he feels like it.

2107
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 2: He let it. He let the team and the fans down.

2108
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 1: If you turn it over three times one hundred bardless

2109
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: of the circumstance, regardless of how it happened, when it happened,

2110
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And by the way, when I

2111
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: say it's teakying and it's not tiki, nice job to

2112
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: yell and scream and say, you know the emotions and

2113
01:33:58,360 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: whether or not the.

2114
01:33:58,840 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: Team's done or not.

2115
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: If you guys want to call up as a fan,

2116
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: you have every right to feel that way, and you

2117
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: want to call up and invent to us, that's fine.

2118
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 1: We're happy to take your call. But that's not what

2119
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna do here. Let's go to Robbie and Lennox.

2120
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: He's up next.

2121
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 13: Robbie, Hey, guys, what's going on? Nice John, I thank

2122
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 13: take for taking the call us. And by the way,

2123
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 13: the almost top two touchdowns, I just want that's my god.

2124
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 2: I can just stopped updating.

2125
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 7: Robbie.

2126
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 2: Some of those home runs and some of those home

2127
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 2: that home run.

2128
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 13: Bring worldward? And you know what, because and then yesterday

2129
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 13: you had no choice of bringing a rookie guy will work?

2130
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: Oh no, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie for the record,

2131
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: Robbie for the record. I don't care what bullpen guys

2132
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: are available today. The way Max Freak started, it wouldn't mattered.

2133
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 13: Ridiculous was the aes don't hit anyway, no truth to anyway.

2134
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 13: Let's talk about the GM And first of all, this

2135
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 13: is all mistakes by the Times. Put him with Darry Slater.

2136
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 13: I couldn't believe they brought brought him back. Look, he's

2137
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 13: a fast, He's drump so many passes over the years,

2138
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 13: I mean he or something. Well, so slay and dropped

2139
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 13: the ball here. Bob's talking about this like the last

2140
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 13: seventy eight years with Darius Player. So I have Darius Slayton.

2141
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 7: So.

2142
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 13: But the problem for me too today is basically it's

2143
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 13: the defense. I can't stand Shane Bowen. I can't take

2144
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 13: it anymore. You have a one four that should be

2145
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 13: more powerful and the promise Carl always talks about this

2146
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 13: guy's complimentary football. When you score the touchdown and you

2147
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 13: let him go down and get a field goal, this

2148
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 13: is you know, you know, I feel like I'm watching

2149
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 13: Tom Bass back in nineteen seventy nine with the Chargers

2150
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 13: when they had the best. Remember Tom Batt, Yeah, big

2151
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 13: bat guy who's like the world worst defensive coordinator game

2152
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 13: that guy before.

2153
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 2: I remember that.

2154
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 13: Corey would run up and down the side like look

2155
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 13: was having a conniption, right, and they would get up.

2156
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 13: I mean, that's what it's like.

2157
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 2: Please.

2158
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 13: And the other thing too, is Bobby ocarricate. Nice game though, right,

2159
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 13: and you name any of the other Giant linebackers. You're

2160
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,759
Speaker 13: the last time the Giants had a uput of linebackers

2161
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 13: and Antonio Pierce twenty five years ago.

2162
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 2: That's a long time ago. That was.

2163
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: That was that was my era, Robbie, he was like

2164
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: seventeen years Yeah.

2165
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 13: So my question for you, cheeky, is that, look there's

2166
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 13: some positive things. Look, they should have won the game. Say,

2167
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 13: look the Eagle. I picked Denver to I bet Denver

2168
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 13: and they won. So the Eagles are not as good

2169
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 13: as they were last year. They're having trouble on their

2170
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 13: offensive line for not splint points. Barkley's only having three

2171
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:20,919
Speaker 13: points five going.

2172
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: To the game.

2173
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 13: You got they can win next week. They can if

2174
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 13: they don't do stupid things. And Drew Phillips could be

2175
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 13: an all prope. He would use his head once.

2176
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 7: In a while.

2177
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: Right.

2178
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 3: Again, it's it's stupid mistakes that have that have hurt

2179
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 3: the Giants defensively, and you talked about, you know, the

2180
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 3: Giants defense and frustration, and you know, Giants go score

2181
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 3: a touchdown, then the then the defense just gives.

2182
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Up a drive.

2183
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 3: But let's not forget they got off the field on

2184
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 3: the first possession. The Giants went got held them to

2185
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 3: a three and out. On the second possession, they turned

2186
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 3: them over and a stupid penalty gave it right back

2187
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 3: to the to the Saints, and they went back and

2188
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 3: kicked that field goal. So it's it's so sir, They're

2189
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 3: so close to being a decent team, but it's stupid

2190
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 3: penalties and stupid mistakes that are costing this team over

2191
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 3: and over again. I think you gave the stat John

2192
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 3: at halftime. Yeah, this Giants team is the most penalized

2193
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 3: defense in football. I did not have that for sure.

2194
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I heard that from Mark. Maybe Bob said

2195
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 3: that or Carl said that.

2196
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 2: The Yes, I think Bob did say that, Carl. So,

2197
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: you can't be good if you help the other team.

2198
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 2: You just can't.

2199
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 3: And the Giants did that today with dumb penalties and

2200
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 3: then turnovers.

2201
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,799
Speaker 1: And by the way, somebody brought it up, the Saints

2202
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: did not run the ball great in this game.

2203
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: Overall, they had thirty carries for eighty eight. There was

2204
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: no real dominance by the Saints in any capacity.

2205
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: And if you just take the run in the big touchdown,

2206
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: it's eighteen carries for sixty eight yards.

2207
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 2: I mean yes that that.

2208
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: That's under four yards per carry and their longest run

2209
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: was eleven So it's not like the Saints killed you.

2210
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: They had one pass completion of over twenty yards and

2211
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 1: that was the one to Rashid Shahid.

2212
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't.

2213
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: Look again, the defense wasn't good enough. No, it is not,

2214
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: but it is far from.

2215
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 2: It's easy.

2216
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 14: Fan.

2217
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 3: You're frustrated because of the result and it sucked, and

2218
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 3: it's a game you were supposed to win and you didn't.

2219
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 1: And you also don't want to get mad at your

2220
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,919
Speaker 1: rooie court. You would have find somebody else to blame.

2221
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 7: Right right.

2222
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. It's the same old thing. I

2223
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 2: hear it. It's the same old giants, same old time.

2224
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 2: It's not this wasn't it's the different giants.

2225
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: It's frustrating because they lost, but they didn't lose because

2226
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 3: they suck. They lost because they they shot themselves in

2227
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 3: the foot right. They made so many mistakes and too

2228
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 3: many penalties and critical moments on third downs against this,

2229
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 3: against this, this the Saints team or allowed the Saints

2230
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 3: team to.

2231
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 2: Be in a game. The Saints are are just average.

2232
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not good. They only have one win as well.

2233
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 3: But this is this is self inflicted by the New

2234
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: York Giants, and it's frustrating because of that.

2235
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 2: Brent and Greenwich, Connecticut, you could wrap us up today.

2236
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 2: What's going on? Jason?

2237
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 16: My goodness?

2238
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Here second of the game for Dalton varshow by the way,

2239
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: what's up man?

2240
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 7: How are you good?

2241
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 13: Good?

2242
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 10: I want to bring some positivity into here. First. I

2243
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 10: do have to say, though, I think that all these

2244
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 10: penalties on the DBS is just devastating the Giants.

2245
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: It's it's just it's bad.

2246
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 10: It's receivers, so they just go and grab under they

2247
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 10: see the balls in there, they grab the receiver and

2248
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 10: playing defense.

2249
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Don't play hands, you can just keep you know what.

2250
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: I've never played the position. I know it's probably the

2251
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: second most difficult division position to play except quarterback in

2252
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: the National Football League.

2253
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Can you just not grab Jersey plays?

2254
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: It's stupid, that's all They look for if do you

2255
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: grab the jersey, the flass come out, you go put

2256
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: your hand.

2257
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 2: On the guy. Just don't grab. It's stupidity.

2258
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 10: It's frustrating to what what Tiki was saying is you

2259
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 10: take that Deontay Banks play away, you take that horrible

2260
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 10: Drew Phillips play away too, and the defense all of

2261
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 10: a sudden maybe had an amazing game instead of you know,

2262
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 10: both those drives. They give up a field goal and

2263
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 10: then I think a touchdown on the Drew Phillips one.

2264
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 7: Yep.

2265
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 10: My My positive point is when you go to Week three,

2266
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 10: to me, it was depressing as a Giants fan, it

2267
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 10: was just the offense suck and it just was like

2268
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 10: a depressing thing where our defense was still doing some

2269
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 10: good things that the offense was so bad. At least

2270
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 10: today you could say the first half of the game

2271
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 10: they were looking really good and they had some fluke

2272
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 10: stupid plays. That dark play was crazy. It's not It's

2273
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 10: not a normal play to just drop a ball. So

2274
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 10: I think the offense looks actually functional now. It is

2275
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 10: just I think it was kind of a fluke that.

2276
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 3: Mistake, right, It's not functionality previous seasons. Thank you appreciate

2277
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 3: your call. It was functionality. This team can't function the

2278
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 3: first three weeks of the season. Saved the Dallas game

2279
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 3: against the most horrible defense and that's in the in

2280
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 3: the NFL that the Jets couldn't do anything on until

2281
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 3: the end of the game when it didn't matter.

2282
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 2: Sorry Jets, you got to catch some shrapnel. But I

2283
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: mean sorry CODR.

2284
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 3: In previous in previous years, it was, man, this giant

2285
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 3: offense is inept. They have no chance to be in

2286
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,799
Speaker 3: any game. If they score a touchdown, I'll be happy.

2287
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 3: That's what you thought. That's not this giant offense anymore.

2288
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 3: You know that they can move the ball because they

2289
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 3: did move the ball. You know that they can score

2290
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 3: it because they have. But it's just the mistakes and

2291
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 3: the youth on this offense that are just you're beating

2292
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 3: your head against the wall because it's not more of

2293
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 3: the same. It's just the same result because of different reasons. Yeah,

2294
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 3: absolutely right, all right, Tiki. In four days on Thursday night,

2295
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 3: we'll be back here on with the pregame show here

2296
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 3: on the fan at around six fifteen.

2297
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 2: What do you look at this week?

2298
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: As a player, you never have to prepare for a

2299
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Thursday game three days off, But give me a feel

2300
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: for what this week is going to be like and

2301
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: some of the keys you're thinking about as the Giants

2302
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: get ready to now take on the four and one

2303
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles who did lose to the Broncos.

2304
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 2: So now the Giants got to.

2305
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: Face the Chiefs coming off the loss, and now they

2306
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: get to face the Eagles coming off a loss.

2307
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 3: Look, this is not going to be an easy task

2308
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 3: because you know that the Eagles who got away was

2309
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 3: some wins not playing their best football or going to

2310
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 3: be dialed into the to the to the max this week.

2311
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 3: And it's a short week, and they're and they're coming

2312
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: off a loss, but they also just in their hearts,

2313
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 3: feel like they.

2314
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 2: Can own the New York Giants.

2315
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 3: And so for the Giants, it's on each and every

2316
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 3: one of these guys to not let that history, that

2317
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 3: recent history, become the narrative of this game. Yeah, you

2318
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 3: have to make it different and you have to be uh,

2319
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 3: you know, dialed into each moment of the preparation. It's

2320
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 3: hard this week because it's it's such a short week. Hey,

2321
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 3: I mean usually by Thursday you're starting to feel better,

2322
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 3: especially if you took more than you know, thirty or

2323
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 3: forty snaps. Uh, but you gotta you gotta accelerate it.

2324
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 3: It's Thursday. Games are hard, and so the Giants are

2325
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 3: at a disadvantage. But I'm gonna trust that they're gonna

2326
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 3: get themselves ready.

2327
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: And again this will be And not that the Saints

2328
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 1: don't have some good defensive players, not that they weren't

2329
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 1: challenges against the Chargers last week, but this is the

2330
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: real deal. The Eagles have maybe the best defense in

2331
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: the National Football Conference.

2332
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:08,879
Speaker 2: It's excellent.

2333
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 1: They have one of the best defensive coordinators in football.

2334
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: They have some really good players, and they are going

2335
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: to put pressure on Jackson Dart to beat them. So

2336
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you want to see a really

2337
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 1: difficult test for your rookie quarterback. It's coming up Tiki,

2338
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: by the way, not just this Thursday, which is really tough.

2339
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 1: Then you get the Broncos, then you get the Eagles again.

2340
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: Right, You're gonna learn Yeah, in Denver and your in

2341
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:31,639
Speaker 3: Philly those next so you're gonna learn a lot about

2342
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 3: your rookie quarterback over the next three weeks. Obviously home

2343
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: on Thursday, than in Denver and in Philadelphia and Jackson

2344
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: Dart is gonna it's look the best thing you can

2345
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 3: say because the the Giants are not making the playoffs

2346
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 3: this year. But so this is a growth in learning

2347
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 3: opportunity for Jackson Dart. He's going to learn a lot

2348
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 3: over the next three weeks, and how he responds to

2349
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 3: it is going to help us figure out what kind

2350
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 3: of guy he's going to be, what kind of leader,

2351
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 3: kind of quarterback he's going to be for the future.

2352
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 1: Sure of this team. Takey always fun, my friend. Enjoy

2353
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 1: your week. I'm sure tomorrow is gonna be fun. On

2354
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: the phones.

2355
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a busy week, that's for sure, because

2356
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 3: not about three teams that did not you know, win,

2357
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 3: New York Giants, Jets, and obviously the Yankees getting destroyed

2358
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 3: by the by the Blue Jays. But then you have

2359
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 3: on Tuesday the Blue Jays coming to Yankee Stadium for

2360
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 3: Game three, and that's gonna be an elimination game.

2361
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely right.

2362
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to stand tall in an elimination game,

2363
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. That'll be fun. That'll be Tuesday, and

2364
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: then Game four if necessary. Unfortunately for the Yankees, uh

2365
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 1: will be on Wednesday. They didn't put a statup though,

2366
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: the four times the Yankees have gone down two in

2367
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: a five game series, they've won half of those series.

2368
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 2: Unfortunately.

2369
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 1: One of those was with Joe Tory against the Oakland

2370
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: A's back in two thousand, two thousand and one, whatever.

2371
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 23: It was.

2372
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 3: The biggest challenge is that any in the history of

2373
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 3: Aaron Boone's tenure here, he has never won a series

2374
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 3: where he did not have home field advantage.

2375
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: You know, I did not know that stat. So it's

2376
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 2: a very good staff. He's fighting against history. And again

2377
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 2: that's why the right not that I care, and that's

2378
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 2: just that's just the fact. That's why the regular season

2379
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 2: is important.

2380
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: You finished tied with the Blue Jays, and I think

2381
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 1: the Yankees made a great run in September.

2382
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 2: They just couldn't get it. They won eight of their

2383
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 2: last ten games. They finished with.

2384
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: Whatever, tied for the second rest second best record in

2385
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: the whole sport, right yeah, yeah, behind the Brewers.

2386
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 3: And they were tied with the Blue Jays. They just

2387
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 3: didn't have the tiebreaker because they couldn't beat him in

2388
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:31,799
Speaker 3: the regular season.

2389
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 2: And now we're seeing why today the Giants.

2390
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Section point was brought to you by Citizens, the Official

2391
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Bank of the New York Giants Citizens has made They

2392
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: made Ready for Giants fans, part of Me. London Jewelers

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