1 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Harry with you on a week twelve 2 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving edition of Chargers Weekly. Coming up, the voice of 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Matt money Smith shares his keys to victory 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Cardinals. New author Marcellus Wiley checks in 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: to discuss his new book. He'll also talk Joey Bosa's 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: return to the football field. Darren Urban of Azy Cardinals 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: dot Com closes the show with this week's opposing view. 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: But first Fox Sports is Darryl Moose. Johnston joins me 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: in preview Sunday's game from Rocket Field. That's dub up center. 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: All right, my first guest. We'll be in the booth 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: along with Chris Meyers for Cardinals Chargers on Fox. It's 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: by great pleasure to welcome in Darryl Johnson to Chargers Weekly. 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Daryl excited to welcome you to Los Angeles. How are 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: you doing. I'm well, I'm well, looking forward to it well. 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: The Largers six game winning streak was snapps Sunday by 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: the Broncos twenty three, twenty two tough loss, and incomes 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team with rookie quarterback Josh Rosen who's been 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: playing better each week. They lost to the Raiders twenty three, 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: twenty one. But what intrigues you about this matchup at 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: first glance, Darrell, the response of the Chargers. You know, 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: for me that there was a lot of positives going on. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: You mentioned the six game winning streak, you know, kind 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of finding different ways to win games, and then also 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: maybe kind of putting some of the history of the 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: franchise behind them a little bit, and then it kind 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: of bounced back on them against the Broncos. So I'm 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: very anxious to see what the response is. That's a 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: game that they should have won. They were in control 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: at the end of opportunities during the course of the 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: game to really separate and they didn't take advantage of them. 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to the response of the Chargers. 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: And then, really you probably have to say the same 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: thing about Arizona. You know, I think that that was 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: a game that they probably expected to win. So we've 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: got two teams that that should come into this matchup 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: with some thing to prove, especially that the way they 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: performed last week was not up to their standard. Yeah, 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, you were all line to that Broncos game. 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: There are two turnovers. Philip Rivers hasn't thrown two interceptions 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: in a game all season. Fourteen penalties, I think the 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: silver lining for the Chargers. These are correctable mistakes. You 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: cut those penalties in half, you probably win that game 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: against the Broncos, Yes, without a doubt. But the turnovers 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: is still the big thing. Um. And then even that, 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think the end of the game, even 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: with the clock management, um, you know, the incomplete path 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: that stops the clock and the Denver Broncos have no 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: timeouts left, you still put them down at their ten 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: yard lines. So did Philip Rivers make a mistake? Absolutely? Absolutely, 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: he knows that. You know, you can kind of tell 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: as soon as the ball came off his hand. You 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: know you'd made the mistake. But your defense had played well, 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, during the course of the game, and you 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: expect them to be able to hold there. So one 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: of the things that we've heard a lot of the 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: teams talk about this season is that them of complimentary football. 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: When one side's down, the other side lifts up. When 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: when when one side is struggling, the other one picks 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: up the slacks. So in a situation like that, a 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: mistake made by the by the Chargers offense. Uh, you 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: expect your defense to come out and be able to 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: make a stop. Um. So just even the course of 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: the day, you know, a Bronco's offensive line that had 64 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: some injuries in it, and you're going up against the 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: front with Joey Boza coming back and still just not 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on case Keenum. So a lot 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: of things to look at. People will look at the penalties, 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: will look at the turnovers, they'll look at that clock 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: management thing, but a lot of a lot of correctible 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: areas for the for the Chargers, you know, due I 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: think it's a great example to the talent differential in 72 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: this league from one to thirty two is so thin 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and it does come down to a few plays. And 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers, frankly have been beneficiaries during their sixth game 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: winning streak. You know, you have that tipped two point 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: conversion in London to beat the Titans twenty nineteen. You 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: have a close game in Seattle, and that Chargers defense 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: has shown time and time again that they can make 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: those stops. They had a fourth down stop in the 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: first half. They weren't able to get it done at 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: the end of the game. But I think it's just 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: a great example of just how close talent wise this 83 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: league is from one to thirty two. Yeah, yeah, and 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: you're going to have a few teams at the top. 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: You know, we saw a couple of those guys on 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Monday night playing in the shootout with the Rams and 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You got to put the Saints there at 88 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: the top. But I thought, you know, the Chargers were 89 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: kind of on that fringe. Are are they going to 90 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: move into that elite or are they going to stay 91 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: here near the top of this group that's next? And 92 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: then we've got a group down at the bottom, and 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: that's where you know, you find Arizona, you find Oakland, 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: you find San Francisco down there. And I think that 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: that Arizona really felt as a season had gone on 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: with a new coaching change, they were ready to take 97 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: that next step from the we're going to get out 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: of the bottom and get into that middle of the pack. 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers, are we going to get it 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: out of that middle of the pack and maybe get 101 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: into that that elite level. And it was a great 102 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: opportunity for them, you know, to sit there at eight 103 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: and two and be able to say, hey, the only 104 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: two teams that have beat us are the Chiefs and 105 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: the Rams, and that's a pretty good that's a pretty 106 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: good statement to be able to tell people. And you 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: point it out there are some close games they found 108 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: ways to win them, but it doesn't matter. There's no 109 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: style points in the NFL eight and two. With your 110 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: only losses to the Chiefs and the Rams, I would 111 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: have been a great position for the Chargers to be 112 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: in offensively. You could talk about a lot of players 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: from Philip Rivers to Keenan Allen who's come on late 114 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns this last two weeks. But Melvin Gordon is 115 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: having a career year, Daryl almost twelve hundred total yards, 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: eleven total touchdowns, by far the best start to his career. 117 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: What have you seen from Melvin over this first half 118 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: of the season, kind of doing what we've seen Todd 119 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Gurley do for the Rams, what we see Ezekiel Elliott 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: doing for the Cowboys the last couple of weeks. You know, 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: not just as a running back in the running game, 122 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: but also a receiver out of the backfield, and those 123 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: guys are dynamic and they really kind of shift the 124 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: game when you can get those guys matched up in 125 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: your passing game in favorable ways. It's just such as 126 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: such a stress on the defense. So um, you know, 127 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: I think that Melbourne is doing the things that this 128 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: franchise expected when he was brought in. And it's great 129 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: to see him healthy and playing well and playing consistent 130 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: when you have the ability to come to the line 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the defense number one. Everybody says it 132 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: from week to week when we talk. You know, we've 133 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: got to stop the run. We've got to stop the run. 134 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna try and we're gonna try and force them 135 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: to be one dimensional and throw the football and let 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: our two edge rushers get after that quarterback. You know 137 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: that that that's hard to do when you've got a 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: guy like uh, you know, Melvin Gordon in the backfield. 139 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: So many you've got your skill positions on the outside. 140 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: And I've always been a huge Philip Rivers fan. You know, 141 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: I do an interview with Philip, you know every time 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: we have them, and I walk away a little bit smarter, uh, 143 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, in the game of football after chatting with Phillips, 144 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: So um, you know, you've got a great guy there 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: kind of coordinating everything. So you know, the skill players 146 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: on the outside uh, you know, a great running back 147 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: behind you and then and I'm a big Austin Ekeler fan. 148 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I love to change up. That's kind of become the 149 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: new weapon for these offenses around the league. We see 150 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans do with Kamara, we see the obviously the 151 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs Douner which I re kill the barious Douno with 152 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: Terik Cohen. Is this unique running back that can create 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: matchups on the outside as well. So there's a lot 154 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: of there's a lot of talent on this offense and 155 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: I was surprised to see it struggle against the Broncos 156 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, that one two punch. You mentioned the backfield, 157 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Gordon and Eckler. Another guy in that backfield, a position 158 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: you're very familiar with, Darryl Derek Watt open it up 159 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 1: holes for Melvin. He's done a lot of the dirty 160 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: work this year and he's really an unsung hero. You 161 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: don't hear a lot about Derek Watt. How important is 162 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: that fullback for a guy like Melvin Gore to get 163 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: a few extra yards on he's carry Yeah. The one 164 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: thing that I think gets overlooked with the fullback. I mean, 165 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: these defensive players are becoming so dynamic inside. There's a 166 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: very unique type of defensive tackle that we can see 167 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL. Now that you know the six foot four, 168 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: six foot five three and twenty pound guy that's that's 169 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: very very quick, and sometimes you'll you'll have that guy 170 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: right in the face of the running back and when 171 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: you have that fullback there, you know he can cover 172 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: that guy up. He gives maybe a play that looked 173 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: like it was going to be a negative play an 174 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a positive him. Where you've got somebody 175 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: as talented as Melvin Gordon, you know, behind Derek Watt 176 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Carrie and the ball, you know his ability to make 177 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: up for a mistake and in the offensive line in 178 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: front of him, or just a great play by one 179 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: of the defensive players, you give that that running play 180 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: a chance. So it's not so much just what they're 181 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: doing when they're executing the run game efficiently, but it's 182 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: also when the defense makes a play and you've got 183 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: that guy in between your running back and the tackler 184 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: and he can give Melvin an opportunity for a positive play. 185 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: You flip it over to the Cardinals Dyld Josh Rosen. 186 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: He's been sacked twenty two times this year, but was 187 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: kept pretty clean against the Raiders. I think he was 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: only hit one sacked once. What have you seen from 189 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: Rosen from you know, the beginning of the season where 190 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: he struggled a little bit. He only had nine completions 191 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: against the Raiders, but he threw three touchdowns. Yeah. Just 192 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: the growth And it's one of the things that we 193 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: hear these quarterbacks say. I mean, there was always that 194 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: that question and of would you like your your new 195 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback to have the opportunity to be on the sideline, 196 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: to learn the game from the sideline, to watch a 197 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: veteran player, to be in those meetings, to grow during 198 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the course of the year. Um, you know, without having 199 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: all that added pressure of carrying the franchise. Or do 200 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: you want to put them right out on the field 201 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: and let them learn on the fly? Um, you can 202 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: watch it in practice, you can watch the film, but 203 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing better than being out there in the game 204 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: and you're going to make a few mistakes, but you're 205 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: going to grow and learn from that. And it's interesting 206 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: to see these play out in different ways. You know, 207 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes now doing what he's doing in year two 208 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: having spent the majority of the year all but one game, 209 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, behind Alex Smith in Kansas City. We've seen 210 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: it done a number of different ways, and uh, you 211 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: know he was he was slow to getting into the 212 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: starting lineup. Um, you know, but now that he's there, Uh, 213 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen growth, you know, each week. Um, 214 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: And that's the most important thing. You don't you don't 215 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: want to see the same mistakes being made twice. I 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: think the one thing that all the young quarterbacks struggle 217 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: with when they come to this league is that definition 218 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: of what is open and and do I do I 219 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: think I can that ball fitted into that tight spot. 220 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: And you know, that's one of the big learning curves 221 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: that they have, and sometimes that comes with turnovers. So 222 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: understanding the value of the possession, understanding when it's an 223 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to trust your skill set, to trust you know, 224 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: what you're capable of doing from the quarterback position, and 225 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: fitting balls in a tight areas. Understanding what open is 226 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: and what open is not at the NFL level, understanding 227 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: and respecting how talented you know, the cover guys are 228 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: in this league, how they can bait you into doing 229 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: certain things to make it look like somebody's open. So 230 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: it's a process that all the young guys go through, 231 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: and it's you know, and Josh is in the middle 232 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: of that year in his rookie years. Something I've noticed 233 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the rookie quarterbacks this year have struggled a little bit 234 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: more than I thought they were going to. And then 235 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: you look at a game like Monday Night with Mahomes 236 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: in his second year in golf, in his third year, 237 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: just the numbers that they put up, and then we 238 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: look at guys like Rivers and Breeze and Rogers, it 239 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: seems like from the neck up, you really have to 240 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: have if you're going to succeed in today's NFL. Yeah, 241 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be intelligent. But but that's you know, 242 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: you've you've carried that from the college game to the 243 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: NFL game. I think the most important thing. And let's 244 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: just go take a look at those those guys that 245 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned there. Patrick Mahomes as a young guy, dynamic guy. Um, 246 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Kansas City Chiefs move up to grab 247 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: him at number ten, but look what he has around him. 248 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: He has a he has a very unique tight end 249 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: in Travis Kelsey. Um, you know, he has an outstanding 250 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: running back behind him in Kareem Hunt. He's got the 251 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: most dynamic player in the NFL. And Tyree Hill. He's 252 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: got outstanding wide receivers Chris Connelly, Sammy Watkins on the outside. Um, 253 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: you know that that's that's a tremendous skill set and 254 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: that helps a quarterback. It's hard for a defense to 255 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: cover all those players during the course of the game. 256 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: And you're starting to see that same thing happen um 257 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: with Jared Goff in LA. You know in year one, uh, 258 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: when when Sean McVay was not there, there was not 259 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot of support around him, and that was one 260 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: of the things that Sean McVay did right aways. Number one, 261 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: secure that offensive line in front of them, Let's make 262 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: sure that we have pass protection, we have running lanes, uh, 263 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and then let's get some players around him besides Todd Gurley. 264 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: You know that will happen, you know, for for Josh 265 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: roseland he'll get an opportunity for that. You know, Philip 266 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Rivers has had that, you know throughout his career. Um, 267 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, great skill players around him. And then when 268 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: you get to that point, now you can start to 269 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: elevate players. You can you can make them even better 270 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: than they were or challenge them, you know, to become 271 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: very very good at their craft. And that's what you 272 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: see with the Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. Uh, you 273 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: know Tom Brady, you know, those types of guys that 274 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: are in this league. But the most important thing, in 275 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: my opinion, in the quarterback position is having a great 276 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: supporting cast. And I think when we've seen young guys 277 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: struggle from time to time. You know, get Sam Donald 278 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: with the Jefs. You know, he does not have that 279 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that dynamic supporting cast around him. Uh. And that one 280 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: of the reasons when you get taken high at the 281 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: quarterback spot is because your franchise is struggling. So there's 282 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: probably you know, it's going to be a process of 283 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: getting that talent around that quarterback. Daryl will get you 284 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: out here on this What are you thinks going to 285 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: decide Sunday? What are you looking forward to in this matchup? 286 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: As the Chargers look to get back in the win 287 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: column get to eight and three, I think the big 288 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: thing is is defensively, they have to take advantage of 289 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: an offensive line that's a little beat out to the Broncos, 290 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: were a little beat up last week, and they didn't 291 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. They've got another offensive line that 292 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: that's struggling a little bit. They can't let David Johnson 293 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: get moving. You know that that makes everything click and 294 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: that's why, you know, coordinators will always tell us, you know, 295 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: we've got to stop the run. Even in this past 296 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: happy NFL game, when that running game starts to move 297 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: and you can see the progress, you know, over the 298 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks that the Cardinals have made with 299 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: the success that David Johnson has had, you know, running 300 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: the football, and now everything starts to open up because 301 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: you have to change what you're doing defensively. So the 302 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: one thing that that the Chargers need to do is 303 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: make sure that running game doesn't start take advantage of 304 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: an offensive line that's kind of influx right now with 305 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: some injuries. And then, really to me, the response by 306 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: by Philip Rivers on the offensive side of the wall, 307 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: knowing an opportunity slip through the fingers last week with 308 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: that loss to the Broncos. You know, how are they 309 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: going to fund? What does this group do after the 310 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: week to prepare? They have they have everything there, They 311 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: have good matchups on the outside. As you pointed out, 312 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, Melvin Gordon's having a an outstanding season. They've 313 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: got everything in place right now. This is a game 314 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: that they should take care of their business. But that 315 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: was a game last week that they should have taken 316 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: care of their business. And that's one of the things 317 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: that are really good team does. When it's a winnable game, 318 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: they win those. There are no style points, it doesn't matter, 319 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, if they have that that timing issue at 320 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: the end of the game and the defense comes on 321 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: the fields and they shut the Broncos down and you 322 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: win that game, you know, nobody's going to look back 323 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: at it, you know, you know four or five weeks 324 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: from now as you're getting ready for the playoffs and 325 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: ask how you won that game. You just see the 326 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: w and the columns. So um, you know, that's the 327 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: big thing. Take care of your business when you've got 328 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: a team that you're better than. And you we talked 329 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: about that that parody that exists in the league, but 330 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: there are certain matchups we're one team. If they play 331 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: to the way that they're supposed to play, they take 332 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: care of their business, they should win the game. And 333 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: this is one of those games. That the Chargers should 334 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: be able to handle the Arizona Cardinals and we'll see 335 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: how they responded that. Darryl Johnston, Fox Sports, Daryl, I 336 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Happy Thanksgiving and I look forward to 337 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: seeing you at StubHub Center. Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to you 338 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: as well. 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And it's been a while, Money, 347 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: It has been like five weeks maybe, Yeah, a little 348 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: bit of schedule issues with multiple gigs and we were 349 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: on the road and all that sort of stuff. It's 350 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: good to be back in our comfortable digs having a 351 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: conversation with you about the Chargers. Yeah. Well, we're gonna 352 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: put the Broncos in the rear view now. A lot 353 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: of plays in there that we're really frustrating. You know, 354 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: you can talk the penalties, you could talk about some 355 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: of the clack miscommunication. Was what was the most frustrating 356 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: for you? Well, penalties. I think that's where it all starts. 357 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: The fact that you get a first and goal from 358 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: the eight. Next thing you know, you're kicking a field 359 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: goal again, you get into the red zone, and again 360 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: you find yourself in the high red zone. It was 361 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the penalties. You know, you take those out and I 362 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: think you scored touchdown on that first drive. You find 363 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: yourself up and I think we're not having the conversation 364 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: about miscommunication between Melvin and Philip about Wow, a fifteen 365 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: year vet throwing a ball into the dirt when a 366 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: team doesn't have any timeout. It's like, just so un 367 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Philip rivers, Like, I think the penalties, if you erase 368 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: half of them, that's gone. They're scoring touchdowns instead of 369 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: the first quarter money. Yeah, you know, like I said, 370 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: those I think I don't know if it was back 371 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: to back or if it was back to back to 372 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: back in the first quarter when they had their initial drive, 373 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: or they could have scored a touchdown and instead they 374 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: had to settle for three because of a holding because 375 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: of a false star when they had first and goal 376 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: from the eighth. I think that just set the tone 377 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: for the day. If you erase those two or three 378 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: penalties on that drive, you go up seven nothing after 379 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: force and a three and out, and remember the very 380 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: next possession they forced three and out again. Then I 381 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: think you kind of just set the tone for the 382 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: entire afternoon and you end up rolling the Broncos. And 383 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: the defense has made its money on getting stops the 384 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: last few weeks, whether it was in Oakland, that fourth 385 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: and goal, the Tennessee two point conversion, Seattle at the 386 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: end of the game, and the Broncos offense goes the 387 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: length of the field on them is something that they're 388 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: not used to really, and I think, you know, I 389 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: think certainly focused on it, especially because of the mistackles 390 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: on that drive, you know, specifically. And look, I think 391 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to cut Jalil some slack because 392 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: he is playing out a position. He's not a high safety, 393 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: he's a box safety, and he is He's doing the 394 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: best he can. But I think that's something that's gonna 395 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: have to be talked about because they do find themselves 396 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: in those positions more often, and I don't think it's 397 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: fair to Jalil. That's just not his natural position, and 398 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: to force him into that because Derwin's so good in 399 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: the box and playing strong, you're gonna end up having 400 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: plays like that where he's got to cover more ground 401 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: than perhaps he's used to. But I think that just 402 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: kind of even before all of that, it's you can't 403 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: keep asking that group to do it. You know, the 404 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: offense had a chance to not have to lean on 405 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: the defense for once, and all they had to do 406 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: was convert a second in three and a miscommunicy, not 407 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: even miscommunication, a blown assignment by Melvin and he said it, 408 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: I blew it. You know, I was supposed to go 409 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: one direction. I went the wrong direction. It results in 410 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: a four yard sack instead of a first in whatever, 411 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: first and ten, and you take four knees and three 412 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: knees and everybody's happy. I talked to a pair of 413 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: the linebackers a Zubnar and Emmanuel yesterday and I think 414 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: he said, did Philip mentioned, hey, listen, we got away 415 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: with some of this stuff during the six game winning 416 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: streak that we didn't get away with against the Broncos 417 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: and it's just it's a time to refocus. Clean it up. 418 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: You got to clean it up, and you could do 419 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: that against the Arizona Cardinals. I watched that game on 420 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: game pad. It was a it was a tough d 421 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: card Yeah, terrible, it was. It was. It was two 422 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: bad teams. Twenty three twenty one. The Cardinals listened nine 423 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: completions for Josh Rose in three touchdowns. What do you 424 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: make of this Cardinals team? I know you've seen the 425 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: in the past Fews. Well, they you know, I thought 426 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: they were going to have a pretty good offensive line 427 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: just looking at it on paper when we played him 428 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: in the when when the Chargers played him in the preseason, 429 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: like okay, first rounder, first rounder, first rounder, first rounder, 430 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: first rounder, Wow, Okay, Well I get it. You got 431 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: David Johnson back healthy. You got a rookie quarterback or 432 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford who's good when you keep them up right. 433 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: So you invest in pew and first rounders on your 434 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, this could be a good team. Look Out. 435 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: You got a Bell Count on the backfield exactly, coming 436 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: back fully healthy after a full season of rest, full service, 437 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: three down back who can dominate a game. And that 438 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: offensive line has just been bad, really really bad. And 439 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: you combine a battle line with a rookie quarterback and 440 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have trouble. And that's certainly been the case 441 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: this season. They still have good pieces at every level 442 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: of the defense. Chandler Jones. I like dam Buchanan flying 443 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: around at that linebacker spot. Obviously Pat Peterson, so they 444 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: were They've got good players, individual pieces for sure, exactly, 445 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: but the units aren't good. Rose has been sacked twenty 446 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: two times this year. He was only sacked once against 447 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders, but the Raiders, I believe, have nine sacks 448 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: all year, so you kind of throw that out the window. 449 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: The Chargers uncharacteristically, they didn't get to case Keno and 450 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: how many times had he been sacked this year, like 451 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: twenty four or something. Yeah, And it was an offensive 452 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: line with Connor McGovern at center. It was first string guard, 453 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: backup center, out of position tackles that have been leaky 454 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: all year. It was weird that that defensive line could 455 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: not get and look, you credit keen him. He got 456 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: rid of the ball on a couple occasions. There was 457 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: one where I thought he should have been whistled in 458 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: the dirt that they let him get rid of it. 459 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: I don't. It wasn't the boss when he had him 460 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: wrapped up. It was a different anyway you credit Keen him. 461 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: There were having the shavvy and the smarts to forcing 462 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: completions instead of sacks on three occasions, silver lining to 463 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: that pest rush group ninety nines out there, thirty one 464 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: snaps played more than I thought he was going to play, 465 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: and I thought he looked good money. I mean, just 466 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: think about his first bit of action, right, he ends 467 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: up what five yards maybe five yards deep in the 468 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: backfield on a screen to Philip Lindsay, and he's still 469 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: able to track him down I mean eight and prevent 470 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: a first down. The very next play, what does he do. 471 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: He forces case Keenum into an incompletion because he's in pursuit. 472 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: And that's the guy's first series of twenty eight Lindsay 473 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: chase down is when you knew he was right. Yeah, 474 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: just the explosion, the ability to recover. And then I 475 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: thought the other signature play for Bosa was just because 476 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't get enough credit. And I said this to 477 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Haley after the game. For his instincts and his smarts 478 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: and recognizing that screen to Hireman was set up and 479 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: as he is full bore about to get after case 480 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: before he can let go of that screen pass over 481 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: his head, stops, shifts and immediately covers Hireman and forces 482 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: an incompletion. I mean, those are the things that Bosa 483 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: brings that I think don't show up in a statue 484 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: that you have to watch every play to recognize. I mean, 485 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: he's just he's one of the best, if not the best, 486 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: in the game. And you get a couple of weeks 487 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: to get him ramped up for the home stretch in December, 488 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: and it was good to see him out there. Melvin 489 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: Ingraham doing his thing. Darwin James, Actually we just saw 490 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: the news that he's the leading vote getter at free 491 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: safety in the AFC for the Pro sen So yeah, 492 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's leading the team in tackles. He's doing 493 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: his thing, and he makes he may again, you know, 494 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: kind of very similar to what we just mentioned with 495 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: with Bosa makes so many plays that unless you watch 496 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the entire game and every single play, you're not going 497 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: to know again, recovering, you know, in the screen game, 498 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: putting on pressure, even though he might not get credit 499 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: for a hurry, a hit or a sack, just pushing 500 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback into a position where they're either gonna make 501 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: a mistake and throw a pick or throwing in completion 502 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: or get sacked. I mean, Durwin's been so good at that. 503 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: And again it goes back to what we were talking 504 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: about with Jalil playing high out of position. Derwin's just 505 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: so good. You know, when he's in the box, he 506 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: really is. He impacts the game like four different positions. Yeah, 507 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: so much more dramatically when he's not playing high. Now 508 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: when he's play and high, he's playing great, And you 509 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: can see there is a pretty I think I think 510 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: there's a pretty significant upgrade there over Jalil because Jalie's 511 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: great in the box. You know, at least he's comfortable 512 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: in the box as well. But I think that speaks 513 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: to how good Derwin is playing that box safety role. 514 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: The guy he replaced is in Arizona, in Trey Boston, 515 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: and they're asking coach Lyn, They're asking Philip if if 516 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: you have to change anything up because Trey's back there, 517 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: do you do you think that's a big deal at all? 518 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: Not at all? And I don't think at all. I 519 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: mean you're talking about you know, and again, just kind 520 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: of throw out the Bronco game because it was a 521 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: really uncharacteristic Well, I guess I shouldn't say that. I 522 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: mean Rivers still through for over four hundred yards and 523 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: two touch nobody. It was one of the completed what 524 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes fishing offensive They had nine 525 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: plays of twenty and more yards. There was a season high. 526 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: So it just seems like you go one step four, 527 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: two steps back with the penalties, especially in the first half. Yeah, 528 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: the first interception was the first interception was bad, Philip right, 529 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: he frustrated, trying to make something happen. You could tell 530 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: it was just getting to him. He was getting hit 531 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot under a lot of direct and just let 532 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: it fly to the sideline. And we saw that last 533 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: year in that first four games, you know, the zero 534 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: and four run and then all of a sudden it 535 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: just kind of switch flips and barely turns the ball 536 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: over the roast of the season and that carried over 537 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: to this season. So that interception was like all right, 538 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and he said it after the game, 539 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: he recognized can't do that, and um, you know, the 540 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: second one, Von just came flying through. Read it. It's 541 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: it's a great player on a great player, and you 542 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: credit Von for for being the better player in that situation. 543 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about Trey Boston playing high, not 544 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: not in the least. Well, you mentioned that interception, the 545 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: Von interception. It was nineteen seven at that point, about 546 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: to be twenty two. It was about to be a rap. 547 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: It was about to be either going to be twenty 548 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: two or more. You know, it would have been twenty 549 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: two or twenty seven to seven, and that would have 550 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: been it, you know, And and unfortunately, uh, Von Miller, 551 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: who's arguably the greatest pass rusher in the NFL right now, 552 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: made a play he could wreck a game. Yeah, and 553 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: he look, he came in with ten sacks, he had 554 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: a couple of sacks, had pressures all over the place, 555 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean so much so that Tevy had to come 556 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: out of the game because he was just you know, 557 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: I guess they didn't want to commit more help to 558 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: Tevy side personnel wise. So that's just Yeah, it's a 559 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: great player making a play. You know, a player changed 560 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: the game. You know, a player on the Cardinals that 561 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to account for not only 562 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: special teams, but also on off it's Christian Kirk. You 563 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: wear that game return turf monster got him. Yeah, he tripped. 564 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: He would have had a sure fire touchdown. He's had 565 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: a forty four yard punt return money, He's had a 566 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown. He had a fifty nine yard 567 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: bubble screen touchdown. He's one of those players. He's not 568 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: close to Tyree Hill. I'm just saying that he could 569 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: change a game with one play. He gotta count for him. Well, 570 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: I think it's also important to note and not to 571 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: pile on someone who can't defend himself, but who was punting. 572 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: And as someone who watched it all last year and 573 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: this year, Drew Kayser really likes his leg and likes 574 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: to show off how hard he can kick a ball, 575 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: and we saw it last year routinely OutKick his coverage. 576 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: And while Donnie Jones does not have a big leg 577 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: like a lot of other punters do. Look at the 578 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: return yards, you know, savvy, he is I think top 579 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: five in return yards. So even though he if you 580 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: look at his gross numbers, he's at the bottom of 581 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: the league. Don't care about gross, care about nets, and 582 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: the net numbers are really good with Donnie Jones. So 583 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about saying, Okay, I don't 584 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't need to worry about carrying over what we saw, 585 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: at least in the game, the preseason game, that Christian 586 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: Kirk should have scored a touchdown in a punt because 587 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Kayser out punted his coverage by about twenty yards like 588 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: he did routinely. Yeah, sorry, Drew, but come on, Dot, 589 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: He's been good. That's what I meant. His return yards 590 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: have been great, his net and his gross aren't great. 591 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a huge leg, but he's able to 592 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: put spin, rotation on the ball. He's a savvy vet. 593 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: He knows how to get it to bounce his right way, 594 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: you know. And people are, oh, you know, he's getting 595 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: a lot of role after the punt. I don't care. 596 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: That's that's also part of punting. Someone who knows how 597 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: to put rotation and spin on a ball to get 598 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: it to bounce the right way, where to land it 599 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: nearest sideline so it can't be returned. And Donnie's really 600 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: good at that. And money. He's a he's a locker 601 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: room favorite. That Donny, Donny. I mean, it's crazy, right, 602 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: The guy's chanted as he comes off. There's something coming 603 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: out hang time with Donnie. I think it's this week. 604 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: I think it's so charges dot Com. It's pretty funny, 605 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure, and it's it's We had Mike Pouncey on 606 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: the radio show with me and Petros and uh we 607 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: asked him. I was like, hey, I saw a photo 608 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram of you and the whole line. It was 609 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: really cool to see. It kind of speaks to the 610 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: camaraderie on this team. You know. It was Michael Schofield 611 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: and his wife for those that don't know, played hockey 612 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: Olympic hockey. So they went to Ducks game. To the 613 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: Ducks game. So the whole low line is there and 614 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, cool, there's there, there's Phoeni, and there's Poundcy, 615 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: and there's there is it is any? Is that Badgeley? 616 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: And is that Donnie Jones? So I said the Poundcy. 617 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: We asked him. I said, I said, Will, what was that? 618 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: I said, it was an old line out here, but 619 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: you had your punter and your kicker. Whether He's like, oh, 620 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: we love those guys, man, Yeah, those guys. Hang man. 621 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: That's that's the first I've ever heard of it. Normally, 622 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: that position group is not even in the conversation. They're 623 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: doing ball tricks on their own. On the other side 624 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: of the field. Well, everyone else is doing gassers and 625 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: squats and looking at him and hating every single thing 626 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: about him because they're trying to spin a ball on 627 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: their head and YouTube it. Yeah, those two have managed 628 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: to work their way into the good graces of the 629 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: whole team, and I think it speaks to the how 630 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: close this team is from quarterback to Mike went the 631 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: long snapper to the rookie kicker, Michael Badgeley who rolls 632 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: around everywhere I think with sunglasses on, and I think 633 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: is now going by the money Badger. He's the best 634 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: is nickname? He missed the extra point, But listen, Justin 635 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Tucker missed an extra point this year. You're gonna have 636 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: missus from time to time. But he has been Bunny 637 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: Money Badger is a great nick. Yeah, he u And 638 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: look it was big miss they lost by one point. 639 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, knowing what this team has 640 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: gone through with kicking guy made a forty six forty 641 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: five and made a field goal to take the lead 642 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: to put the Chargers up by two with four minutes 643 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: to play. So I'm with you. I'm all right with that. 644 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: It's not ideal. Don't want to miss an extra points, 645 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: but not gonna put that loss on him. Josh Rosen 646 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: coming back to Los Angeles, I think Manhattan beached timiles 647 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: up the road. What's UCLA's get played at Bosco? Now, yeah, 648 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I got Bosco. That game will already be over by 649 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: the time this air, So I hope I don't pull 650 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: back the curtain and this gets edited out. But you 651 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: got Bosco moter Day on Friday night. So his alma mater, 652 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: one of the powerhouses here in southern California. Big, big 653 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: weekend for Josh. Are you surprised that he struggled a 654 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: little bit this year or is it come down to 655 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the fact that you don't have a ton of weapons. 656 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: The offensive line has been so so, and there's been 657 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: a coordinator change, There's been a lot, a couple of 658 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: things one yes and no. So I'm not surprised because 659 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line has struggled to protect him. And when 660 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: we did the preseason game, I was surprised at kind 661 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: of how I don't want to say am mobile, but 662 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: just how uncomfortable he looked on the move. I was like, man, 663 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: I don't remember that at UCLA. Kind of remember him 664 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: being able to shift in the pocket, and you know, 665 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: while he's not using his legs to get for downs, 666 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: he was able to kind of move around and looked 667 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: a little fluid back there. And I didn't see any 668 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: of that. I saw a guy that was kind of stiff, 669 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 1: that was uncomfortable when he was moved off his spot, 670 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: was making really bad throws. And I think that's carried 671 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: over kind of what we saw in that preseason game, 672 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: the fact that you have got to keep him clean. 673 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Now again, you mentioned nine completions, but three of them 674 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: were for touchdowns, and that speech accuracy, and he can 675 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: throw a beautiful ball. So I think that's the deal 676 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: with Josh is he's gonna be a Matt Ryan type 677 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: where if you've got a good old line in front 678 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: of him, good weapons around him, that duken deal, you 679 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: know he'll be able to put the ball where you 680 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: need him to put it. And he's gonna have three 681 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: fifty and four hundred yard games in his career. He 682 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: just ain't ready to have it with that offensive line 683 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: in front of him. Finally, money, what's the key tat? 684 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: And three for the Chargers all Sunday. I think it 685 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: sounds stupid, but just play what you've been doing without 686 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: the Bronco game. You know, play the game you've been 687 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: playing if you take the Bronco game out of the mix. 688 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: The interceptions were out of character for Philip rivers seven 689 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: when with one or no turnace and because that was 690 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: the first time he had a two interception game this season. 691 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: So get rid of that, get rid of the penalties. 692 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: It was the most penalties they've had under coach Lynn. 693 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: So you assume they'll do that and clean it up. 694 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's been it's been an offense that's been 695 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. I know it's 696 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: not the eye poppy numbers of the Saints, Chiefs and Rams, 697 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: but when you look at balance run to pass, to 698 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: Phillip's efficiency, to the fact that they're spreading it out, 699 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: how many got you know, Mike Williams five touchdowns, Tyrolle 700 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Williams with the fifty plus touchdowns, Keenan Allen with all 701 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: the third down conversions, like wild it's everything. So just 702 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: do what you do and clean it up and you'll 703 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: be fine. You know, that's kind of the way I 704 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: look at I do. There is a little part of 705 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: me that would really like to see them just pour 706 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: it on. You know. I would really like to see 707 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: a Cleveland Browns like performance where they went into that 708 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: game and there are a lot of people picking the 709 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: Browns and it's the argent stuff. You know. The Chargers 710 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: are a cold weather climate now and here this Browns 711 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: are coming on Miles Garrett and they took it. It It 712 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: was a rapping up for And that's what I'd like 713 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: to see is just take a team that's got no 714 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: business being in a game with you to the wood 715 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: shed and lay it on thick and end all the 716 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: conversation about what happened in that Broncos game. So you 717 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: can look forward to Pittsburgh. December is a big month. 718 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Got to take care of Sundays over so have to yep. 719 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: If they don't take care of Sunday and now you're 720 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: talking about, okay, is this a collapse? You know, because 721 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh A'm gonna be easy in primetime. Got to go 722 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs on a Thursday night, it's gonna be 723 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: freezing cold in Kansas City, dealing with elements against the 724 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: best offense in the league and then you're talking about 725 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 1: going to Denver, and you're gonna have to win one 726 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: of those games if you want to get the ten wins. 727 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: If you drop this one, you know, win your home games, 728 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: you get to ten wins, you're a lock for the playoffs. 729 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: It's that simple. If they can win three home games, 730 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: they are in. They do better than that, and maybe 731 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: that game. I'd love to see that game on Thursday 732 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: night means something for the division. Me too. Money Happy Thanksgiving. 733 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: It's going to be back happy Thanksgiving week. Yeah, well, 734 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna have you on a lot more often here 735 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: as the stretch run continues, looking forward to it. Good 736 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: to be back happy Thanksgiving to you and everybody out there. 737 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: All right, my next guest will be signing his new book, 738 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Never Shut Up, outside the team's store on the main 739 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: concourse of rocket Field stub Up Center, before the Chargers 740 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: take on the Cardinals. Former Chargers defensive end Marcellis Wiley 741 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: joins me. Marcellis, congrats on the new book, by man. 742 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: How are you? Oh, I'm doing great, man. Excited to 743 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 1: come out and once again see the boys go get it. 744 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully we leave with that smiling, winning feeling. But yes, 745 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to be around the fans once 746 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: again loving it. Yeah, I gotta bounce back on Sunday. 747 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: You know what you came on. I think it was 748 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: right before Raider Week and the book wasn't out yet, 749 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: but we talked about it a little bit. But for 750 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: those who may not have heard that segment, tell us 751 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: about the book Never Shut Up. Yeah, it's a book 752 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: to inspire everyone out there, no matter what your circumstances are. University, 753 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: It's just to inspire you to never shut up in 754 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: terms of telling the world exactly what you want and 755 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: telling the world exactly who you are. I'm from the 756 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: inner city Los Angeles, Compton, California, South central Los Angeles, 757 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of people growing up told me my limits, 758 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: those limitations, what I could be, what I couldn't be, 759 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: And it was just about my essence never shutting up 760 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: and really just trying to plan a life that was 761 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: going to allow me and my family to leave our circumstances, 762 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: to leave the neighborhood, and to make something of ourselves. 763 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: So I really went out there with my only two 764 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: talents I had, which was my academic success and my 765 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: athletic prowess. And I was a pretty good football player 766 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: at a young age. So I just tried to balance 767 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: those two and make the best way possible out the 768 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: hood for me and my family. So that's my story. 769 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: But everyone has adversity, everyone has a circumstance that they 770 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: want to overcome and make their dreams reality. So never 771 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: shut up in terms of telling the world exactly what 772 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: you want, no doubt about that. Marcellas. What motivated you 773 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: to write the book or when did you know that 774 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: this was something that you wanted to do? Ah Man 775 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: years ago, five years plus. Publishers came to me knowing 776 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: my story on paper and thought it was an amazing story, 777 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: a unique story, and they wanted to put it out there. 778 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: But at that time I felt like it was going 779 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: to be too narrow of scope. I thought it was 780 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: going to be too much focused on football and third 781 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: and goal and a cloud of dust. And I didn't 782 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: want that story. I didn't want it to be limited 783 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: just to the gridiron. I wanted it to really expand 784 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: beyond the game, to the game within the game, and 785 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: the long game of life. I retired at age thirty two, 786 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: and being retired, I played ten years a decade in 787 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: the NFL, and still I'm thirty two years as young, 788 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: and I'm in the real world. So once I was 789 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: able to grasp my experience outside of the game, broadcasting, 790 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: family life, some of the real world dynamics, and I 791 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: can create those with the football stories, then I thought 792 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: we had something. So it took about five years for 793 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: them to finally nudge me to this place, but I'm 794 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: glad and so excited that I did it. Well. Once 795 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: you get to that place, walk me through the process 796 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: of writing a book Marcella's I'm always fascinated by this 797 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: because there's so much that goes into it, and you 798 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: mentioned just I mean, first and foremost collecting your thoughts 799 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: right over the course of your life, putting pen to paper, 800 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: then editing, publishing. I'm just I'm intrigued by the entire 801 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: processing and just how long it takes. Yeah, it's a 802 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: therapeutic process, but it's a daunting experience as well. What 803 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: to put in, what not to put in. You certainly 804 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: are smart to have someone to bounce it off of, 805 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: and I was blessed to have someone by the name 806 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: of Chris Farah, a writer, a guy who's working at 807 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: Funny or Die, but just a great guy that turned 808 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: into a great friend and confidante who I could set 809 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: aside the book with. So what do we put in 810 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: and what do you not put in? What becomes story 811 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: what doesn't? It has to follow a theme, so I 812 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: think to synthesize it was critical. There's so many stories 813 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: in this book, and there are even more stories not 814 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: in this book, just because you're talking about a life 815 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: of experiences, lifetime experiences trying to put them all in 816 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: within three under pages. There's a lot more on the 817 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: cutting room floor that it's some great materials. So you 818 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: take that process, man, and you just plow through it 819 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: every day and make sure you're consistent, and one day 820 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: you look up you actually got a book to read. 821 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: That's why my next question is how much did you 822 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: have to take out? And then when you see what 823 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: you have to take out, you're probably like, oh, man, 824 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: I kind of wish kept that one in. You know, Oh, absolutely, 825 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: there's so many stories, especially me being in the media. 826 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: I played a decade of football, but I've been broadcasting 827 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: for twelve years, so there are people out there, fans 828 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: out there that know so many stories about me, And uh, 829 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: there's a Ferrari story the day I bought a Ferrari, 830 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: Thank you Deans Fanos. But the day I bought a 831 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: Ferrari and that didn't go so well the day I 832 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: bought that Ferrari, and some people know that story, but 833 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: that story is not in the book. So they're countless 834 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: examples like that. Obviously, I had to protect my teammates. 835 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: I had to protect people that I was around. This 836 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: wasn't jose Canseco's book. I wasn't writing a book to 837 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: out anybody. I told the stories that they needed to 838 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: be told, but I protected the guilty. So it was fun. 839 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: I bought the audio version. I just told you offline 840 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: and I said, by the way, it's already five stars. 841 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: You said it doesn't matter anyway. You can't you can't 842 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: change your life story. But it is five stars. And 843 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: I joked with you about this Marcella's I was like, 844 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: you know what, you have the voice to narrate the book, 845 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: and you actually do narrate this book. And you touched 846 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: on it briefly. The last time we talked. You said 847 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: that that was one of the more daunting tasks you've 848 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: ever done. Oh my god, it was so daunting. I'm 849 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: talking about three straight days, twenty one hours of reading 850 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: my own material. Beyond the weird feeling you get from 851 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: just watching yourself work, but to read my own words, 852 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: to read my own life. First you read it and 853 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: then you're like, Okay, perfect context, good emotion, But I 854 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: studied over that word. Okay, let me do it again. 855 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: Then you get the word right, but you're like, I, 856 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: I got to make sure I put them in the 857 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: right mind frame for that exact moment. It felt like 858 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: I had to read every sentence at least three different times, man, 859 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: And it was just crazy because I wanted to express 860 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: and convey the energy and the emotion I had with 861 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: every word, every line. You know, I'm flattered by how 862 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: well it's selling. I'm flattered by the rave reviews. But 863 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: as funny as I was telling you, this is one 864 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: that it's not. It's not art for me. It's not 865 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: like I went out there with a subjective experience and 866 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: tried to persuade others or impress others. I basically just 867 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: kind of told my story, my life through my eyes 868 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 1: and how I process the world. But I'm so glad 869 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: and thankful that the reception has been so great for 870 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: it so far. All right, Well, more about the book 871 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: without giving anything away. Marcellus, what was your favorite moment 872 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: or favorite part of the book that you got to 873 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: tell I think it's really just when I achieved my dreams, 874 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: and I think it was twofold. The first one was 875 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: actually going to a college, a university Columbia would such 876 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: a great academic reputation, and just being the first of 877 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: my family not only to graduate, but obviously the ghost 878 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: to such an esteemed university that was very rewarding. It's 879 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: the role less traveled, especially for athletes. A lot of 880 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: guys don't don't qualify, or even if they qualified, don't 881 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: choose to go to an Ivy League school. So to 882 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: break down those barriers and to kind of poke fun 883 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: at the statistics that say you won't make it out 884 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: of the Columbia or the Ivy League that was rewarding. 885 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: But also just the entire NFL experience, Like everything I 886 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: went through in the NFL, good, bad, ugly, so amazing 887 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: to talk about because now you're sitting here in a 888 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: different point of life, different level of enlightenment. I'm I'm 889 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: distanced from all the emotion of those moments, but now 890 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: I can intellectually or logically look at them and it's 891 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: just fun to just realize you you did something that 892 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: is a one in a million experience. So just talking 893 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: about all of that, from being eight years old with 894 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: a big helmet on and equipment that's too big for 895 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: your body, to finally being one of the big guys 896 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: on the field man and having a crowd roar for 897 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: you and having impressive years in the league. Just to 898 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: watch all that come full circle was a dream come true. Well, hey, man, 899 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy for your early success with this book. It's 900 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: perfect for the holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas coming up, and you'll 901 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: be there at stubb Up Center doing a little book 902 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: signing outside the team's store. So Fancing Kilp check you out. Pregame, 903 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: let's let's move to the Chargers. Number ninety nine was 904 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: back on the field against the Broncos. Listen to Chargers 905 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: stubbed the toe a little bit against Denver, but it 906 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: was encouraging to see number ninety nine out there. It 907 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: certainly was man just to watch him come out there 908 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: in pregame warm ups and get ready. You can just 909 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: feel the energy change because he's been such a consistent 910 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: pass rusher and excellent at it, his motors undeniable, and 911 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: his hand combat is second to none. So you know, 912 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: I went out there with very little expectations because one 913 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: is about getting acclimated to the speed again, getting your conditioning, 914 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: and you know, knocking a little rust off. But I 915 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: will saw some some very positive plays from him as well, 916 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: and we know how great he is when everything is 917 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: everything is working, and everything is rolling, so I look 918 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: forward to that. But once again, you're right, we did 919 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: shoot ourselves in the foot. This is uh, not the 920 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: first game I've seen the Chargers lose where I'm like, 921 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: they actually won. They won the game, but they didn't 922 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: win the scoreboard. So those those are easier things to 923 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: fix than the opposite. So still holding the Chargers obviously 924 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: in high regard. It's got to be frustrating for these 925 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: guys though. You know, when you were playing and you 926 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: lose a game that you're supposed to win, you look 927 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: at the game, everything but the scoreboard you mentioned it 928 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: was in the Chargers favor. Are those harder to get 929 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: over or is it just hey, it's more motivation to 930 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 1: go out there on Sunday get and bounce back. Yeah, 931 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: I think they're harder to get over emotionally, because you know, 932 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: you let one go, you let one get away, that 933 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: regret like you don't you don't get that that taste 934 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: out of your mouth until you get another win. But 935 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: I think from a coaching staff, in their perspective, they 936 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: have to feel better about those games because look, it 937 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: beats the alternative, which is if you're Denver, you're like, 938 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: we got our butts kick, but we won a game. 939 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: That's not a replicable formula. That's not something you want 940 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: to duplicate game in and game out, get beat up, 941 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: but win games. I understand that we all want to win, 942 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: but there's also a way that we want to win. 943 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: There's something that about the process, about being good in 944 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: the running game, being good to pass the game, playing defense, 945 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: how all that culminates in a win because when that happens, 946 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: then you have confidence and then you also have a 947 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: game plan that you can go out there and duplicate. 948 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: But when you just kind of mister magoul your way 949 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: to it and you're like, WHOA, how do we end 950 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: up winning this game? Confidence doesn't get You don't gain 951 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: confidence in those moments even though you may get a win. Well, 952 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: I tell you, I get you there. This Marcella's how 953 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: to take care of business on Sunday and December is 954 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: a whole other animal. You got Pittsburgh on the road, 955 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: you got Kansas City on the road, you got a 956 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: primetimey game against Baltimore. You gotta go to Denver, you 957 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: gotta play Cincinnati. How would you assess this AFC knowing 958 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: what Kansas City did on Monday night, knowing that New 959 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: England's there? How do the Chargers fit into this equation 960 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: as we get into December. Yeah, look, this week, let's 961 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: just be real. You can't lose to this team. So 962 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: it's a must win. And must wins are dictated by 963 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: many ways and many different elements. But what this element 964 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: is you can't lose to a sorry team. And that's 965 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: just the way it is. So you look at the 966 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: AFC picture, they're right where they need to be. I 967 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: think the class of the AFC right now has to 968 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: be the Kansas City Chiefs just by how they're They're 969 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: scoring points at will, just their scoring offense is just 970 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: It's a difficult task for any defense, no matter how 971 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: vaunted out daunting the task may be. You're you're in 972 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: tough sledding going against Patrick Mahomes and that offense. But 973 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: then beyond them, it's the Patriots. A lot of that's resume, 974 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of that is just experienced and they've been there, 975 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: done that. But I could see easily the Chargers knocking 976 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: them off as well. And they're right where they need 977 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: to be. They're right there in the tier one of 978 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: teams in the AFC. So respect to the Chargers, but 979 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: you can't let games like Denver goal because then that's 980 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: when you start to doubt yourself. That's when the team 981 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: stops looking as advertised. So I like where the Chargers 982 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: are before the game Denver game. A lot of people, 983 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: include myself, we're thinking, hey, this may be third fourth 984 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. You got the Saints, you 985 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: got the Rams, you got the Chiefs, you got the Chargers. 986 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: But let's not let too many Denver games get by, 987 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: because that can all change. Well, we'll see what happens 988 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Marcellus Wileys one speak for yourself with Jason Whitlock, 989 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: and of course got a new book, Never shut Up, Marcellus. 990 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: Can't thank you enough for your time, man, and congrats 991 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: again on the book, and we'll see it stupup. All right, 992 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: look forward to it, man, go bots Baby, All right. 993 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: Before we get to Darren Urban, a quick break to 994 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 1: let you know that this season we've taken Chargers Weekly 995 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: to the next level. That's because I'm using Bows Quiet 996 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: Comfort thirty five headphones two on air now. The powerful 997 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: noise canceling technology helps me blackout distractions and brings you 998 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: the latest news on the Los Angeles Chargers. And when 999 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm not recording, I tell you this every single week. 1000 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: These are my go to wireless headphones. They help me 1001 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: blackout noise. I'll use them this week to concentrate on 1002 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: my game prep and of course bring you that next 1003 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: episode of Chargers Weekly. Visit bos dot com Slash Chargers 1004 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 1: to learn more about the most powerful Bows headphones yet. 1005 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: Bows the official headphones of the NFL. All right to 1006 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: get this week's opposing view, now joined by Darren Urban 1007 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: of Azy Cardinals dot Com and Darren, I appreciate you 1008 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: spending some time with us. The Cards had one that 1009 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: went down to the wire. Sunday Agains The Raiders twenty 1010 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: three twenty one looked like there were some positives to 1011 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: be taken out of it, though what ultimately decided it well, 1012 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you talking about the positives. Unfortunately, it was 1013 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: probably the negatives that ultimately doomed the Cardinals. They ran 1014 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: a position where they really should have won the game. 1015 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: They're up by a point, their offense had been dormant 1016 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: much of the game after the first quarter, but they 1017 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: came up with a touchdown drive about to score with 1018 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: about five minutes left. And it was probably one of 1019 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: six or seven different incidents that if any one of 1020 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: them had gone differently for the Cardinals, they would have 1021 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: been able to hold off Oakland, and instead they all 1022 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of fell apart. There was a drop couple dropped interceptions, 1023 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: There was a dropped screen p pass that stopped the clock. 1024 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: There was a bad penalty post post play penalty by 1025 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 1: Jermaine Gresham. There was a holding call on a fifty 1026 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown run by David Johnson that, while he 1027 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: might not scored a touchdown without the holding call, would 1028 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: have kept the clock running that would have helped the Cardinals. 1029 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: It just overall was just kind of a collapse at 1030 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: the end of the game that allowed the Raiders, who 1031 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, weren't necessarily playing great football themselves, to escape 1032 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: with a win, and it was kind of a gut 1033 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: punch to this team that, you know, playing at home, 1034 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: playing a Raiders team that has struggled mightily. You know, 1035 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: they thought they were going to get Yeah, you know, 1036 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: I see some parallels in the way that the Chargers 1037 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: lost and that he loses by a point, and there 1038 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: were a myriad of things that happened throughout the course 1039 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: of the game that probably could have flipped it. So 1040 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: both teams coming off tough losses. What are the Cardinals 1041 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 1: saying about coming to Los Angeles on Sunday to play 1042 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: this Chargers team? Theren Well, I mean, they know the 1043 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: Chargers are good, and you know that's something that you know, 1044 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: they want to try and get this Raiders loss out 1045 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: of their system as soon as possible because they know 1046 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: they can't be thinking about that when go on the 1047 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: road to play the Chargers. And you know, the last 1048 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: time they went on the road, they went to Kansas 1049 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: City and they lost. But they arguably played their best 1050 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: overall game of the year, both in terms of how 1051 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: their offense was able to run and some elongated scoring drives, 1052 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: the way they played defense. They did give up twenty 1053 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: six points to the Chiefs, but the last touchdown came 1054 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: after an interception and bad field position for the Cardinals defense. 1055 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: And for the most part, they did a nice job 1056 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. You know who, you know, just go 1057 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 1: out and score fifty four in the rams and they 1058 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: held the Chiefs to more than ten points below their 1059 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: season average at the time, so they felt good about 1060 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: how that went. They sat Pat Mahomes five times in 1061 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: that game, so they did do some good things. So 1062 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: that to come back against the Raiders and open up 1063 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,919 Speaker 1: pretty well. They had two touchdowns in the first quarter 1064 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: of their offense and looked like it had some life. 1065 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: David Johnson had a great game. But to have the 1066 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,760 Speaker 1: offense kind of go in the tank for a chunk 1067 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: of the game and to have the defense kind of 1068 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: give up too many yards there at the end to 1069 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: allow the game winning field goal, that was Those were 1070 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: the steps back that were hard. So going into the 1071 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: Charger game, you know, you know, you got somebody you're 1072 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 1: going to have to defend running the ball on Melvil 1073 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: Gordon who you know. The Cardinals have not been great 1074 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: against the run for big, big spots all year, and 1075 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: that's a concern. Philip Rivers is a veteran quarterback who 1076 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. And obviously, defensively, I don't think 1077 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: anybody's going to argue that the Chargers have a better 1078 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 1: defense than the Raiders, and so this offense better figure 1079 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: some things out in a short amount of time. Well, offensively, 1080 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: it looks like Arizona has made more of a concerted 1081 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: effort just to get David Johnson the ball since Byron 1082 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: Leffordge took over the play calling. He had twenty five carries. 1083 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: Aren't thirty seven yards against the Raiders? Which ways has 1084 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 1: that offense changed since left which took over the offense? 1085 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,439 Speaker 1: Darn well? You you touched on the most important point, 1086 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: which was getting David Johnson not only more involved, but 1087 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: involved in different ways. He only had one catch the 1088 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: other day, and you know they only had like three targets, 1089 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: and I still think in a perfect world they'd be 1090 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: throwing the ball to him a little bit more often. 1091 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: But you know, again, you've got to have you got 1092 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 1: to have extended drives to have more chances to do 1093 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: those things. And you know, in the middle quarters they 1094 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 1: were getting a lot of three and ounce but they 1095 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: have run the ball out better that running the ball 1096 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, on the perimeter a little bit more, and 1097 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: they've gotten better blocking and I just spent I just 1098 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: think they've made the tweets to make sure David Johnson, 1099 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: who's their best offensive player and was coming into the season, 1100 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: is getting the ball where he needs to get it 1101 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: so that they can have some success. So I think 1102 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: that that is a major major factor here right now. 1103 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a rookie quarterback and Josh Rosen 1104 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: who's struggling like rookie quarterbacks do. And you know, he's 1105 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: he's had a couple of mistakes. He threw a couple 1106 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 1: more interceptions, got eight interceptions the left three starts four starts. 1107 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 1: I think it's four starts, and that's too many turnovers. 1108 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,399 Speaker 1: And you know, they're trying to find ways to get 1109 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 1: the ball. Let's say to Larry Fitzgerald, who did have 1110 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 1: two touchdown catches last game, but he only had two catches, 1111 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's it's been tough, and they 1112 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of playmakers offensively aside from 1113 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: David Johnson. Christian Kirk, the rookie receiver, has played fairly well, 1114 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: but he's learning on the job and It's not like 1115 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: he's a big outside receiver. He's more of a quick, inside, 1116 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: shifty guy. So, you know, I think there's a lot 1117 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: of things that they are going to need to do 1118 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: in the offseason to upgrade stuff. But in the meantime, 1119 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: you've got to offensively ride David Johnson, and they have 1120 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: done a better job of that. And I think that 1121 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: has been Byron left, which had two things he had 1122 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: to do. He had a one more immediate league, helped 1123 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: David Johnson become the bell cow this offense again, which 1124 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: they desperately needed. And then to develop Rosen and that's 1125 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: definitely a work in progress at this point. Well, it's 1126 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: a homecoming for Rosen. You mentioned just taking pressure off 1127 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback with David Johnson, but you know, Rosen 1128 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: played his ball at UCLA. Obviously, he grew up in 1129 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach, about ten miles from Stubbub Center. How much 1130 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: has he improved from his first start to present, Darren, 1131 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: I saw he only had nine completions. I think it 1132 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: was nine for twenty against the Raiders, But there seems 1133 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: to be improvement each and every week. Well, I think 1134 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 1: I think there has. There are things you can look at, 1135 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: and then you feel like it's getting better. And then 1136 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: there's things you look at and you're like, you really 1137 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 1: like to have that be something you've checked off by 1138 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: now and that you're not still doing. I mean, the 1139 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: Raiders game was a great example. He did throw three 1140 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. All of them were different varieties that left 1141 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: you thinking, okay. The first one was a beautiful eighteen 1142 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: yard strike in a perfect place back of the end 1143 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: zone to Larry Fitzgerald over the defensive back. The second 1144 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: one he audibled to a quick screen. I mean, in 1145 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: terms of the length of the play, it really had 1146 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Josh Rosen, but the fact that 1147 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: he audible seeing that Christian Kirk had an advantage being 1148 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: where he was on that side of the ball, and 1149 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: he whipped the ball out to him at the line 1150 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and Kirk was able to take a fifty 1151 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: nine yards for a touchdown. So that was impressive. And 1152 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: then the last touchdown came on a beautiful route by 1153 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald actually, but he put it on the money. 1154 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: And then those are the things you're like, okay, But 1155 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: then you also see some other things where you know 1156 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 1: he's his first interception, there was a little bit of pressure, 1157 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: but he climbed in the pocket and he just he 1158 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: hung a ball that was in a bad place and 1159 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: it got intercepted. And the second interception was one where 1160 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: he kind of stared down the receiver and it ended 1161 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: up deflecting off the receiver and the defensive back into 1162 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: the air, and you're like, Okay, you'd rather not have 1163 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: that happen again. You're hoping that he going forward, he'll 1164 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: have more weapons around him. But you know, these are 1165 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: the things that again there's a good and bad. You're 1166 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: absolutely taking things that you're liking out of every week. 1167 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: But he's definitely got to get more consistency the offensive line, 1168 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: and you know Josh Rosen his success go hand in 1169 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: hand two and I believe his first interception he was 1170 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: hit by Maurice Hurst. I thing was Maurice Hurst. But 1171 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: he was only sacked once that game. He's been sacked 1172 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: twenty two times this season. Has the offensive line gotten 1173 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: better the past couple of weeks or was it just 1174 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: that you know, you're playing the Raiders and they don't 1175 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: have a ton of pass rushing. Yeah, I was gonna 1176 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: say the Raiders got nine sacks total this year. So 1177 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean that's the Raiders are just not a very 1178 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 1: good pass rushing team. So I don't want to go overboard. 1179 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you were in Kansas City, 1180 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: I think he ended up getting sacked five times or 1181 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 1: three of them came at the very end of the game, 1182 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: in the last half of the fourth quarter when they 1183 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: were down by you know, they were needing two touchdowns 1184 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: to have a chance, and that that's not a good 1185 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: recipe when you're on the road and arrowhead to to 1186 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 1: have to pass every play. But up until that point, 1187 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: they'd done all right because they were, um, you know, 1188 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,720 Speaker 1: balancing the offense when they're when they're a balanced offense. 1189 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: In Kansas City, they had too long touchdown drives where 1190 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: it was you know, lots of runs passes mixed in. 1191 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: It was it was basically textbook football if you're you know, 1192 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: one of those purest coaches where you know you're doing 1193 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: both a little running, a little bit of passing, just 1194 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: smart all the way around. The offensive line looks okay, 1195 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: you know you can live with them. They're not great, 1196 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: but they they're solid. Um it's it's when you're getting 1197 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: to the point where you're having to pass, and that's 1198 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,439 Speaker 1: that's what's hurt them. They they've done a better job 1199 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 1: again with the way they've schemed things up with David 1200 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: Johnson not only getting David the ball but being able 1201 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: to run block um. But there are still some issues 1202 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: pass blocking, and again, there are many things that go 1203 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: on order. It's not just the line. It's it's Josh 1204 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: Rosen maybe holding the ball too long here and there. 1205 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: It's it's receivers that might not be able to get 1206 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: the separation they need. There's a there's there's issues across 1207 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: the offense that they're still going to need to work 1208 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: on the rest of this season and in the next. Defensively, Darren, 1209 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: I look at this Card's defense, and you got a 1210 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: pair of all pros. You got Patrick Peterson at corner. 1211 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: You got Chandler Jones third in the NFL and sacks 1212 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: ten and a half. He has thirty sacks in his 1213 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: forty two games as a member of the Cardinals. What's 1214 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: been the biggest challenge for the defense this season? When 1215 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: when you talk about just giving up points because you 1216 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 1: have talented pieces there, it just seems like collectively it's 1217 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a struggle. There's been there's 1218 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: been two major achilles heels. I think the biggest one 1219 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: and the one I mentioned before, is they they're having 1220 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,439 Speaker 1: they have too many issues stopping the run. And it's 1221 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent of the time. It feels like 1222 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: there are times when they're just doing fine and then 1223 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they'll be a segment of the 1224 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: game or all of a sudden. And this happened against 1225 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders, where they were doing okay, and then all 1226 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden in the third quarter they could not 1227 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: stop the run. And you know, the Raiders were gashing 1228 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: them for big chunks. And that happens far too often. UM. 1229 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: And when they're when they are forcing teams to pass, 1230 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: they do okay, they did it against Kansas City. Um. 1231 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: You know in other games you've got a pass rush 1232 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: led by Chandler Jones, and overall they've got some other 1233 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: guys that can get to the quarterback or harass the quarterback. UM, 1234 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: and you know those are you know they can they 1235 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 1: can make some things happen. The other issue is when 1236 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: teams do have to pass, there's been far too many 1237 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: secondary breakdowns. Uh. You know, it's it's not consonant. It's 1238 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: not all the time. The teams are not going to 1239 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,919 Speaker 1: throw Patrick Peterson most of the time, and too many 1240 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: of the other guys have made mistakes UM that they 1241 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: can't have. I mean, in the Raiders a game winning 1242 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: field goal drive. Uh, the Raiders had no timeouts and 1243 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: they were on their own side of the field and 1244 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: UM cornerback Bena ben Rickery got beat for a thirty 1245 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: two yard gain over the top and that's set up 1246 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: basically the Raiders field goal. And you know, in that 1247 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: situation with you know, barely over a minute ago and 1248 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders in deep trouble and no timeouts, that's just 1249 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: something you can't do. And even coach du Will said that, 1250 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: and you just you can't get beat for a long 1251 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: pass over the top, and that's what happened. And it's 1252 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: those little things where it's like okay, okay, okay, okay, 1253 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: and it's you know, in this league, you only get 1254 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: so many chances to make mistakes. You can do things 1255 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 1: right ninety five percent at the time, but the five 1256 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: percent is going to beat you. Larry Fitzgerald, you mentioned him. 1257 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: Darren two more touchdowns Sunday on two catches. One are 1258 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the classiest players this league has ever seen. You've covered 1259 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: him your whole career. Does this surprise you in the 1260 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: least that he's been this productive having just turned thirty 1261 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: five at the start of the season. Well, I know that, 1262 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Larry. I'm sure a lot of people, I'm 1263 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 1: sure a lot of fans would love for him to 1264 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: be more productive this season. You know, his numbers the 1265 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: last three years have been spectacular, you know, when we're 1266 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: talking about over one hundred catches, is breaking a thousand yards, 1267 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: and even at his age and it was it was 1268 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: going really well, even when the team wasn't being quite 1269 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: as successful as they wanted. And then this year, with 1270 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: all the offensive troubles and everything like that, his numbers 1271 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: are way way down. But I don't really think it's 1272 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: much to do with him. Quite frankly, he was a 1273 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: little beat up early with a hamstring, But a lot 1274 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: of it just has to do with the ineffectiveness of 1275 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: the offense and the inability to have drives and to 1276 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: have other guys take pressure off. And one of the 1277 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,439 Speaker 1: things David Johnson always did as a receiver. A couple 1278 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: of years ago, when he was healthy and having his 1279 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,919 Speaker 1: great year, was, you know, teams had to worry about 1280 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: him and then fitz might be able to use that 1281 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: as a way to get open. But Larry Fitzgerald, his 1282 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: talent is still there. I mean, when you're thirty five, 1283 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 1: you're not the same players when you're twenty six, and 1284 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: he knows that. But he's still incredibly effective. He's still 1285 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: a really important piece to this team, both on the 1286 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: field and in the locker room. And you know, when 1287 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: they win and when they have success, there's almost always 1288 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: a parallel with him producing something. You know, when when 1289 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: he does well, they have a chance to do well. 1290 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: When he doesn't do well, it's really really difficult for 1291 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: them to do much. Darren will get you out here 1292 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: on this What do you think is going to decide 1293 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: this game? What are you looking for from the Cardinals 1294 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: when you see this Chargers offense, this Chargers defense, this 1295 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: team coming off a loss to the Broncos, needing to 1296 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: get to eight and three, and of course the Cardinals 1297 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: hoping to just improve upon what's happened so far this season. Well, 1298 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just so important for the 1299 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals to not be playing from behind the whole game, 1300 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: and it's it's one thing to be down by touchdown, 1301 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: that's really not that big of a deal. But if 1302 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: you get if it becomes more than that, if they 1303 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: if they let the Chargers dominate them on the ground, 1304 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: if they if they're forced to throw a lot and 1305 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: then that Charger pass rush is able to just pin 1306 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: their ears back and come after Josh Rosen, that would 1307 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: be a bad thing. They just they need to be 1308 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: inspired that they can do this stuff. Again. They played 1309 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: pretty well in Kansas City, and I think a lot 1310 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: of people everywhere we're surprised the Cardinals were in that 1311 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: game for most because it was the Cardinals had the 1312 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: ball at their own forty yard line with twelve minutes 1313 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: to go in the game, only down six points, and 1314 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to drive down and score. 1315 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: They had just gotten a long path before Rosen's interception 1316 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,959 Speaker 1: led to a Chief's touchdown and kind of ended things. 1317 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: So if they can keep it close and do some 1318 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: things with David Johnson offensively and not let Rosen have 1319 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: to pass every game, I think they can make this interesting. 1320 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: So whether that can come to fruition, we will find out, 1321 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: but I think that's really important. They can't they can't 1322 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: get down big early and then you know, just let 1323 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the chargers run on them and then just pass rushing 1324 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: all day. Darren Urban Acy Cardinals dot Com. Darren, I 1325 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you at StubHub Center. Should be 1326 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: a goo wo man. We're looking forward to it. I 1327 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,439 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks and that's gonna do it. A big 1328 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: thanks to Darren Urban, Marcellus Wiley, Matt money Smith, and 1329 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson for joining me, and of course thanks too 1330 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: all for listening. Don't forget. If you like what you here, 1331 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: be sure to give us a rating and review on 1332 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. Please help spread the word. And finally, a 1333 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: very happy Thanksgiving to all our Chargers weekly listeners out there. 1334 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: Very thankful for your support each and every week. Look 1335 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: forward to keeping this thing rolling into December, into the 1336 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 1: new year. Enjoy the game on Sunday and until next time, 1337 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Harry