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Speaker 1: Y'all Welcome to pathology with doctor Pria. Y'all know what

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Speaker 1: Monday's mean, and today we are going to get an

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Speaker 1: education because there's some things about.

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Speaker 2: This particular autopsy.

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Speaker 1: I am quite certain that y'all do not know. So

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Speaker 1: Doctor Pria, welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Monday Rendezvous.

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Speaker 2: It is our Monday rendezvous.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, you know, I want you to talk

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Speaker 1: about electrocutions because I think there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that don't really understand what all goes into them.

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Speaker 2: But if you would.

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Speaker 1: Start however, you start the autopsy. But I know, for me,

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Speaker 1: at a crime scene, whether we know something is an

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Speaker 1: accident or we're not sure if it was accident or intentional,

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Speaker 1: I look at their hands first because I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just looking to see if there's any of those blisters.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking for, right, So, you know, electrocution,

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Speaker 3: we have sort of high voltage and low voltage, if

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Speaker 3: you will, low voltage being more of our homes, and

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Speaker 3: high voltage being like in the cases I've had that

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Speaker 3: are more like work accidents as well. We think about

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Speaker 3: power lines that run like around our towns and our

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Speaker 3: houses and businesses. Right, So there's sort of two different,

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Speaker 3: you know, areas that we can encounter electricity. Sadly, I

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Speaker 3: think you know, more of my cases have been the

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Speaker 3: like work related accidents, less commonly homicides. But you know, never, ever, ever, right, ever,

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Speaker 3: ever go in and just assume. And so we're going

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Speaker 3: in with you to the crime scene, looking at the surroundings,

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Speaker 3: does it make sense? Did someone set them up right?

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Speaker 3: Does it look staged in any way? But what's happening

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Speaker 3: arc and that's what the blisters are. So sometimes it

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Speaker 3: you're going to get these almost I mean burn blisters.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's basically burns and the skin blisters up

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Speaker 1: And the blisters can look unusual, can't they like white

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Speaker 3: It can be very dark. It can be almost like

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just such high electricity that it's not like a

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Speaker 2: And then you have the heart, and you talk about

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Speaker 3: So when we're thinking about it, it's the hands, aren't

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Speaker 3: or the entry and exit points aren't what kill you, right,

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Speaker 3: Meaning those are just manifestations that the body was subjected

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Speaker 3: But getting burned, you know, in your hand and foot

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Speaker 3: It's the it's the shock of the electricity through the

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Speaker 3: that is that the electrical signal through the heart that

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Speaker 2: And then you know when you're doing the autopsy, can

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Speaker 3: Well, there wouldn't be burned in any way. What happens

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Speaker 3: But the fact that he survived that is a miracle.

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Speaker 3: don't be a hero to go and pick it up.

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Speaker 3: We've had really bad trees like this year come down

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Speaker 3: you know, there are maybe two or three incidents this year.

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Speaker 3: Oh the power lines are down, the powers out, and

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Speaker 3: Please don't touch it. This is not an appropriate way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can cone it off and then call,

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Speaker 3: know it sounds like almost demeaning to say, like, ye know,

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Speaker 3: of course, doc, I'm not going to touch that. But

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Speaker 3: The other thing I've seen is like now that we're

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Speaker 3: I've seen people get these branch cutters and to trim trees.

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Speaker 3: We're in the New England where the trees are really

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Speaker 2: And that's what you know, and your body's just a conduit.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're just sitting right there, you know,

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Speaker 3: Right thick trees, this metal tree cutter thing that even

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Speaker 3: David has one, My husband has one, and I'm always like,

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Speaker 3: Oh it's in the way. But if it's in the

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Speaker 3: And so let it, you know, let the professionals handle it.

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Speaker 3: There's some things, you know, people ask me, how have

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Speaker 3: has my job like changed how I live? Well, let

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Speaker 3: me tell you, I don't let David do these massive

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Speaker 3: it be the roofing or the tree work, even electrical

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Speaker 3: work on the house. Like you think you're gonna install

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Speaker 2: Well, Doc, I gotta tell you, you know, Walt, I live

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Speaker 2: on a lake. Every year there's somebody that goes, oh,

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Speaker 3: I get nausea to just think about that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Can't have your cell phone near the water if you're

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Speaker 3: taking a shower or a bath, Like, right, I feel

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Speaker 3: like we're so connected to our phones. That's an electrical device, right,

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Speaker 3: Like if it falls in, if it's plugged in, you know,

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Speaker 3: think about hair like curling irons. Like there's all these

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Speaker 3: those like was it ground fault interrupter, current interrupter, the

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Speaker 3: GFCI water resistant outlets or whatever. But nothing is fool proof.

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Speaker 3: Resistant doesn't mean not at all, right, yeah, not at

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Speaker 1: Well, Doc, I'll tell you people do need to be

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Speaker 1: After listening to this, Amen, Well, doc, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much and we will talk to you next week own

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Speaker 1: Pathology with doctor Pria.

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Speaker 3: All right, till next time, Bye bye,