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Speaker 2: What is up? Everybody? Happy Sunday? Thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: I'm Anci Belanos Carry Roads former all Bro Safety coming

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Speaker 2: to you live from the Tire Raq, well from the

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Speaker 2: tire rack at some points studios, you know, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: from the La studios here at Fox Sports Radio. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I woke up today, Carrie. You know the weekend I've had.

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Speaker 3: Did you wake up?

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Speaker 2: I did take up? No, no, no, I'm saying I was.

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Speaker 2: I was chilling. I was chilling. I have not posted

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Speaker 2: a lot on social media. I don't do that until

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Speaker 2: after the fact because I try to live in the moment,

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Speaker 2: as we all should. So I was in Vegas. You

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Speaker 2: knew for seven hours, six hours I was. Covino and

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Speaker 2: Rich did their show on Friday from the Circa Hotel

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and I was never gonna go because

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Speaker 2: I was supposed to go see Shakira in concert on

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Speaker 2: Friday nightra and I also had a wedding yesterday, so

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Speaker 2: it was never on my docket. It was never gonna

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Speaker 2: be part of my plans. And then Shakita rescheduled her

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Speaker 2: concert not long ago. And then when you rescheduled it

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Speaker 2: to august I said, hold on a second, my Friday's

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Speaker 2: opened up. Can't kinda look it me already getting excited. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's you being very realistic on the situation, me being

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Speaker 2: optimistic as I was, like, my Friday has opened up?

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Speaker 2: Can I can I make it to Vegas to support

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Speaker 2: Covino and Rich? Right, so your girl booked the flight.

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Speaker 2: I flew out, went to the pool party slash show

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Speaker 2: for Covino and Rich, had some fun with with Shay.

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Speaker 2: Shay is struggling right now, guys, because Shaye arrived back

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Speaker 2: today this morning, struggling. But you know what, he's here.

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Speaker 2: He's produced our shows. He's here. He's just not happy

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Speaker 2: he's here, but he's here. He's happy to be here,

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Speaker 2: barely barely.

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Speaker 3: The body may be happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's here. You know, give it

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Speaker 2: up for him for being literally getting off the fly.

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Speaker 2: But I after the pool party, which thank you Shay

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Speaker 2: for making sure I got on a taxi because I

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Speaker 2: would have missed my flight on Friday, hopped back on

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Speaker 2: a flight Friday and came back and I was chilling,

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Speaker 2: and then yesterday woke up, went to the wedding and happy,

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Speaker 2: Happy wedding to Ryan Berschinger, who works here, and Audrey

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Speaker 2: his new bride, great wedding, and uh, I'm here, so

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm chilling. But I did have a busy day

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Speaker 2: and I thought I was gonna wake up and just

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Speaker 2: have like a normal busy Sunday. And then I wake

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Speaker 2: up to a bunch of notifications, a bunch of notifications.

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Speaker 2: But we'll wait one second, Okay, go for it.

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Speaker 4: You were able to fly to Vegas, go to the

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Speaker 4: thing the show, got back on the flight that same night, Yes,

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Speaker 4: and flew back at wedding.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: That is a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Gives me exactly you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like I was, I probably got off my couch twice,

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Speaker 2: and you did a lot. I know I did. I

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Speaker 2: did not stop. Let me tell you, I did not stop.

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Speaker 2: And no regrets. I'm chilling. Shaye Shaye was working, quote

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Speaker 2: unquote working for Kevino Riche always yeah, yeah, no, you

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Speaker 2: were working. You definitely weren't working. Uh, And he's he

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Speaker 2: made it back today. He made it back today. And

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Speaker 2: I wake up to a ton of notifications, not just

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Speaker 2: from Twitter, but friends already. Oh what do you think

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Speaker 2: of this?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: One eye opened. I was like, what what what Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant on the move headed to the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns in return getting not Alpera and Shingoon, not

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Speaker 2: Steven Adams, not I'm in Thompson, but Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,

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Speaker 2: the tenth overall pick in this year's draft. I think

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Speaker 2: it was tenth what whatever?

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Speaker 3: Either what not first or.

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Speaker 2: Second eight, nine to ten, whatever, You're right, and then

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Speaker 2: some second rounders, some second round picks, five, second round

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Speaker 2: five five. It is a lot, but it's Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: I'm not super surprised. On In fact, you could say

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Speaker 2: that what the Sons originally gave up to get Kevin Durant, yeah,

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Speaker 2: was a lot more. They are not getting the exact same,

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Speaker 2: but they are getting some pieces back. The Sons are

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Speaker 2: in a situation where it's gonna take a minute to rebuild, right,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't gonna be just with this trade. It was

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Speaker 2: gonna help you. The Rockets, on the other hand, are

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Speaker 2: a few steps away from really being true contenders. Yeah, true, right,

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Speaker 2: How do you like this move for the Rockets or

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Speaker 4: For the Rockets, they are in contention. Now that doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean they're going to win it, but they are in contention.

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Speaker 4: They are as this roster is constructed, their top four

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Speaker 4: easily and a healthy Kevin Durant if he was in

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Speaker 4: this series this year with Houston against Golden State, they

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Speaker 4: win like they're there. They're there, So I'm excited about them.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for Houston. I'm excited for Im Dooka, who

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Speaker 4: obviously has gone through the ringer and had some you know,

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Speaker 4: some some miss some missteps along the way. Go to

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Speaker 4: a young team, a situation in Houston where people thought

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Speaker 4: he was just kind of exiled. Build those guys up.

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Speaker 4: They're ready to ready to compete even without Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 4: Now you get one of the top scores in NBA

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Speaker 4: history on your team where he can fully, i mean,

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Speaker 4: like solely focus on scoring.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to be a defender because he's not

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Speaker 3: that guy anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, but he's a statue.

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Speaker 3: But adding that piece crazy.

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Speaker 4: When you talk about the Phoenix Suns, when you talk

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Speaker 4: about mismanaging something.

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Speaker 3: When they brought the new owner, I think it's Isa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he completely toured that team apart. And that's that's

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Speaker 4: the other thing about the NBA. You think you can

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Speaker 4: just add names to a mix and you're gonna win games.

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Speaker 4: That does not happen. You gotta have culture, you gotta

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Speaker 4: have equity. You get rid of the coach that took

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Speaker 4: them to the NBA Finals, and then you get rid

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Speaker 4: of Chris Paul, you get rid of DeAndre Ayt, and

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Speaker 4: you get rid of all that core to bring in

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Speaker 4: three guys that you're thinking score points and fill up

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Speaker 3: The Phoenix Suns are in a bad, bad place.

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Speaker 2: They really are. And with what you said, you add

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Speaker 2: a lot to it because you're right. As a Clippers fan.

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Speaker 2: Steve Balmer did dive into names, right, He's like, but

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Speaker 2: I don't blame him, and listen, we're not as bad

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Speaker 2: as what the Sons did. No, at least we had

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Speaker 2: other We had a benk. We were more balanced. But

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Speaker 2: that idea of like buying names, it's hard to not

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Speaker 2: dive into that when you have the money and when

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Speaker 2: you have these players that want to do it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: they had no depth. The argument was for the Sons,

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Speaker 2: who's your point guard, who's playing defense? Like there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions and you bring this up just

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Speaker 2: because you're a MAVs fan. So you want to point

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Speaker 2: out that Nico Harrison might not be the worst, that's

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Speaker 2: what you're trying to do it. Yeah, I know what

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Speaker 2: you're trying to do. No, Nico Harrison is still the worst.

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Speaker 2: But what happened with the Suns was malpractice, absolutely, and

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Speaker 2: so one move was not going to change anything for them.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you Jalen Green needed a change

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Speaker 2: of scenery, and I've heard that he's actually not probably

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Speaker 2: going to be there. Interesting. I think they're trying to

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Speaker 2: move him again as well. Okay, so we gotta wait

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Speaker 2: and see. We got to wait and see. The point

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Speaker 2: is he needed a change of scenery. The expectation that

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Speaker 2: was set for him because of where he was drafted.

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Speaker 2: They they, everyone did, thought that he was going to

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Speaker 2: be a lot better at this point in his career.

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Speaker 2: It's a short sample size. He's what twenty two, twenty three.

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Speaker 2: He's a kid, He's got more to grow. But it

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Speaker 2: seems like it wasn't happening in Houston, right. I hope

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Speaker 2: it happens wherever he goes on that he has the

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Speaker 2: chance to actually dive in and grow and be this

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Speaker 2: this score that everybody expected.

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Speaker 4: Him to be well, and it's you know what it is, Manci,

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Speaker 4: it's a timeline. Of course the Rockets are ready to now. Yes,

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Speaker 4: if they weren't ready to win now, I don't think

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Speaker 4: this move is made because obviously we know we can score,

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Speaker 4: we know he's dynamic, he's done some good things. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but we saw in the playoffs he's not ready noting

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Speaker 4: the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: No, sorry, just there's so much to this, right, There's

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Speaker 2: so many There's so many layers to it, where like

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Speaker 2: you say something in triggers a different thought, I say

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Speaker 2: something and triggers a different thought for you. We talked

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Speaker 2: about the Rockets going weeks ago of like going into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, it's like they score by committee. But then

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Speaker 2: you face a team like the Warriors where they literally

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Speaker 2: have the best score probably you know that we've seen

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Speaker 2: in the last ten years, and the Rockets just could

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Speaker 2: not get that person. Fred van Vliet is gonna give

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Speaker 2: you a thirty point game every so often, but you

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Speaker 2: needed a guy who was like, hey we're tied and

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Speaker 2: it's one minute left, go get me a basket. And

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Speaker 2: they didn't have that. All of a sudden, they have

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Speaker 2: that they got that, they got that. And last week

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Speaker 2: you told me, Remember, I was like, why are we

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Speaker 2: hoping all of this for Kevin Durant? You said, it's

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. He's a scorer. And I like this trade,

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Speaker 2: I really do. I also am going to give Kevin

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Speaker 2: Juransom credit. He could have gone to the East carry

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Speaker 2: an easier route to the finals for next year. We

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Speaker 2: know that that's open because there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: of questions going into the off season. I know the

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Speaker 2: Pacers are there, but like, I don't think anyone's anticipating

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Speaker 2: the Pacers to be there next year because everyone has

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Speaker 2: underestimated them. But he could have gone to an East

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Speaker 2: team like the Miami Heat and taking a quote unquote

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Speaker 2: easier route to maybe getting to the finals. He stays

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Speaker 2: in the West, which is not going to be any.

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Speaker 3: Easier, and his division alone.

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Speaker 2: And his division, it is the Spurs who are going

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Speaker 2: to be good and really good this year, trust me,

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Speaker 2: the Rockets, the Mavericks, the Grizzlies. Oh, it's division. And

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Speaker 2: like the Grizzlies, like there's question mark question, But you

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Speaker 2: also aren't like, well, I'm not dismissing them. It's just

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Speaker 2: there's question bok of course. So I'm giving kd credit

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Speaker 2: because you absolutely know he had something to do and

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Speaker 2: say with this trade, I mean not gonna lie. I

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Speaker 2: also think he said, hey, break the news when I'm

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Speaker 2: at Phonetics cut and right before Game seven, can you

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Speaker 2: do that? Because like Lebron does this, so why don't

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Speaker 2: I do this? Now, all of that was absolutely controlled,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not mad about it, but that it's today,

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Speaker 2: that it was released today, that the you know the news.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give Katie credit there also giving credit

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Speaker 2: to the Rockets because what have we seen in the

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Speaker 2: last two weeks for the Rockets, not just signing Katie,

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Speaker 2: extending email Doka making him one of the highest paid coaches,

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Speaker 2: extending Steven Adams making sure, yes, they're like, we're not

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Speaker 2: letting this guy go. Utilize this guy. I love Steven

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Speaker 2: Adams too, Like I don't know what it is about

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Speaker 2: him because he's scary, but yet he is very kind,

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Speaker 2: very kind, and at the same time, nobody's gonna mess

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Speaker 4: Yeah that we haven't even talked about Jabari Smith yet,

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Speaker 4: And he can handle the ball, he can score. He's

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Speaker 2: That's why we're seeing it and the effort. Some teams

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Speaker 2: Show, Cooper Flag does he wait to take threes?

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Speaker 3: I just he can.

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Speaker 2: the mid range. They take it to the back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that has to happen, even with little kids. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be out there crushing kids dream.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on tory because.

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Speaker 2: Somebody do it. If you doing early on, it's better.

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Speaker 3: That was his game.

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Speaker 4: Do you watch his first couple of games at Davidson.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even joking. I think was it a documentary

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Speaker 3: Because you I did say it was over, and six you.

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Speaker 2: Said it was over. You had no faith in the

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Speaker 3: Time, because I've had no You've had it, but other faith.

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Speaker 2: In most people. But I did not, but you did

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Speaker 7: Sports Radio Rado.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Happy Sunday? Martin White's over there again?

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Speaker 2: Look at him? Is that anchor studio?

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Speaker 3: Just limber over there?

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Speaker 2: There? Yeah, living his best little life. I love that.

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Thanks for hanging out with Carrie Rhodes

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Speaker 2: and I on this day. Kevin Durant on the move

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Speaker 2: packed his bags. Maybe not yet, but maybe the slim

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Speaker 2: Reaper the Slim Reaper. Slim Reap. He doesn't like that name.

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Speaker 2: I love that because he has the kind of physique

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Speaker 3: Just give him a little what's the thing called?

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Speaker 2: Hold the thing is? Chris Purpat. I feel like I

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Speaker 8: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I was taking a stab because I didn't you said thing,

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, wait, are we still talking

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Kevin Durant fans.

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Speaker 3: What are we talking about the.

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Speaker 2: Fact that I went to you hoping you knew and

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Speaker 3: I've got to at least use my master's degree something.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Chris Perfect. You are listening to Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. We have our NBA insider Mark Stein on

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Speaker 2: the line. Mark, how are you? How do you feel

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Speaker 2: about this k D to the Rockets trade? Because Carrie

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm inclined to a green. I think I think

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Speaker 8: And we all saw it in the playoffs. They need

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Speaker 8: a bucket getter, yes, and all season long.

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Speaker 5: Look, the Rockets could have done this during the season.

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Speaker 5: They flat out resisted it during the season.

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Speaker 8: Phoenix has always wanted.

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Speaker 5: To do a deal with Houston because the Rockets. The

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Speaker 8: The Rockets got control of them and have them.

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Speaker 5: The Rockets have Phoenix's first in twenty twenty seven and

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Speaker 5: on the playoff stage the first round. Did not you know,

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Speaker 5: Houston was a number two seed. It lost, It lost

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Speaker 8: The whole series. So that did make them realize, Okay, you.

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Speaker 5: Know we do need we don't have the kind of

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Speaker 5: they gave up for Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 8: Look, they did not come close.

434
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Speaker 5: They didn't come close to getting what they gave up

435
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Speaker 5: for him, but they were the Sons really wanted a

436
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 5: first round pick on Wednesday night. This deal gives them

437
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Speaker 5: that they took the best deal it was on the table.

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Speaker 7: Mark.

439
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Speaker 4: See, that's why we're glad to have you here, just

440
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 4: that inside stuff right there. I mean, knowing that they

441
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 4: could have made this trade during the season, I mean,

442
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 4: obviously I think it was a good move to see

443
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Speaker 4: what they had in their young team and the fact

444
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Speaker 4: that they can make it happen now is obviously a plus.

445
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Speaker 4: But I'm excited about this trade for one reason, and

446
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 4: there's there's multiple reasons I could go, but I'm excited

447
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 4: to see Jabari Smith get a chance to learn from

448
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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant. I'm really high on him. I think his

449
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: ceiling's really high. What do you see his position being

450
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Speaker 4: with Kevin Durant coming in with that team and the

451
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Speaker 4: pieces they had.

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Speaker 8: That's you're hitting on.

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Speaker 5: One of the reasons Houston feels so good about this

454
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Speaker 5: trade because Jabari Smith juniors who Phoenix wanted here. I mean,

455
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Speaker 5: that's you know, like they couldn't get, you know, Reed Shepherd,

456
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Speaker 5: Jabari Smith junior. You know, the Rockets made it clear

457
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Speaker 5: like we're not trading you those guys like Okay, Jalen

458
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Speaker 5: Green is as far as we'll go.

459
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Speaker 8: The number ten pick is as far as we'll go.

460
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Speaker 5: And look, Mattisfia was very clear at his end of

461
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Speaker 5: season press conference that the Suns wanted some toughness and

462
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Speaker 5: some edge, and so Dylan Brooks does give them that.

463
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Speaker 8: But the Rockets also have you.

464
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Speaker 5: Know, their most untouchable player was a Men Thompson, and

465
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Speaker 5: a Men Thompson will now slot.

466
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Speaker 8: Into the Dylan Brooks role.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's where I'm saying, like Houston was just

468
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Speaker 5: uniquely set up that they could give Phoenix things that

469
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Speaker 5: the sons want and need, but without really hurting their ceilings.

470
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Speaker 5: And so like minnesot know, for Minnesota or Toronto to

471
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Speaker 5: do this, it just would have been too costly.

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Speaker 8: You know. Miami.

473
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Speaker 5: Miami just didn't want to give up where they didn't

474
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Speaker 5: you know, they have young guys there too that they

475
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Speaker 5: just didn't want to part with. So yeah, I mean,

476
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Speaker 5: look the fact that Jabari Smith stays and they you know,

477
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Speaker 5: Amen Thompson will get a larger role, and they do

478
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Speaker 5: you know, have now in KD an adult in the

479
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 5: room who's been all the way to the finish line

480
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: and can can show these cause they're they're the Rockets

481
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 5: are a very very very young team. And so I

482
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Speaker 5: do think Katie's experience can you know, he's not typically

483
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Speaker 5: a vocal leader, that's not really his thing, but they've

484
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Speaker 5: got Fred van Vliet for that, I mean, you know,

485
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Speaker 5: and and he he remains in place, and I don't

486
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Speaker 5: think Fred van Zliet's going anywhere.

487
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Speaker 8: Like they will come to terms on a new deal.

488
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Speaker 8: Would be my expectation.

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Speaker 5: So, like I said, Houston was really set up here

490
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Speaker 5: to do this more on terms than on the Sun's terms.

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Speaker 2: Mark, what is the latest with Jalen Green. I'm really

492
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Speaker 2: happy for him because I think he needed to change

493
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Speaker 2: his scenery. But do you think that the Sun's plan

494
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Speaker 2: on moving him. There's kind of mixed reports.

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Speaker 5: Whether he I mean, look, all I can what they're

496
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 5: signaling to this point is that they want to keep

497
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Speaker 5: him now around the league. There's going to be skepticism

498
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Speaker 5: even if the Sun say that, because you know, there

499
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Speaker 5: will be fit questions between you know, you got Jalen

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Speaker 5: Green and Devin Booker and they still have Bradley Beal

501
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Speaker 5: on the roster and they just don't have an easy

502
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Speaker 5: exit route to partying with Bradley Beal. I mean, he's

503
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Speaker 5: got two years, almost one hundred and eleven million dollars

504
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 5: left on his deal and it's just a buyout will

505
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Speaker 5: be very costly and there are a bunch of cap

506
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Speaker 5: complexities there that I don't want to.

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Speaker 8: Bore you guys with.

508
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Speaker 5: But for now, that is what the That is the

509
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Speaker 5: messaging that is coming out of Phoenix is they want

510
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Speaker 5: Jalen Green and look and that is what the Sun

511
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Speaker 5: are going to say. They can't even announce this trade

512
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Speaker 5: until July sixth, until we get to the new salary

513
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Speaker 5: cap year, and then of course the first week in

514
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 5: July there's always a moratorium. They can't do anything until

515
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Speaker 5: the moratorium lifts. So on Wednesday night, we're gonna have

516
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Speaker 5: to sit through the charade of Houston making the number

517
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Speaker 5: ten pick when everybody in the league will know it's Phoenix,

518
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Speaker 5: and whoever it is that young man will have to

519
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Speaker 5: put a Rockets cap on his head. And that's just

520
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 5: that's just the way it works in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: And collect and collectively we will all cheer and that

522
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 4: like we were surprised as well, So I think that's

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Speaker 4: part of it, Mark, But I want to I want

524
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Speaker 4: to kind of switch scares a little bit. I know

525
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Speaker 4: there's a there's a big Game seven tonight, that's that's

526
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Speaker 4: happening between the Pacers and the OKC Thunder. I was

527
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Speaker 4: on a record Mark saying that OKC was gonna win

528
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Speaker 4: Game five by double digits and and and win this

529
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Speaker 4: series in six. But the Pacers, just like they have

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Speaker 4: been all playoff long, they answered the bell, even with

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Speaker 4: the hamper Tyrese Haliburton. What do you see happening tonight

532
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: in Game seven in OKAC? Who do you think is

533
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Speaker 4: going to be able to hoist the trophy tonight?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, history says that only four road teams have

535
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Speaker 5: won a Game seven in the finals, but the last

536
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: time it happened in twenty sixteen, the road team did

537
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Speaker 5: win Game seven, and it's going to be like, look,

538
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Speaker 5: I'm not smart enough to sit here and tell you

539
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Speaker 5: I know what's going to happen, but either way, we

540
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Speaker 5: are headed for you know, Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 8: Even though technically.

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Speaker 5: According to the NBA rule book, Seattles championship is on.

543
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Speaker 8: Their ledger, the Thunder have.

544
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Speaker 5: Always tried to say the Sonics history is their history.

545
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 5: Our history is separate. So the Thunder would treat this

546
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Speaker 5: as the first championship in franchise history if they're fortunate

547
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Speaker 5: enough to finish this thing off at home, and being

548
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 5: at home is a massive advantage, not just because it's

549
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: their floor, but the you know, the OKC crowd is

550
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 5: as loud as it gets in the league. And then

551
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 5: the Pacers on the other side, I mean, if they

552
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: have one more.

553
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Speaker 8: Surprise in them and it's been just I think they

554
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 8: will go down if they can win one more game

555
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 8: as the most surprising Cinderella NBA champion we've ever seen.

556
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Speaker 2: Wow Wow, surpassing in twenty eleven, again surpassing the MAVs

557
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven.

558
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Speaker 8: I mean you any team, I mean any team you

559
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Speaker 8: wish to name. You know, you could say the MAVs

560
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 8: in twenty eleven.

561
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Speaker 5: You know, the Houston Rockets in ninety five were technically

562
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Speaker 5: a six seed, but they were the defending champions and

563
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 5: traded for Clyde Drexler at midseason and had a team

564
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Speaker 5: Elijah one. The Bullets in seventy eight were forty four

565
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Speaker 5: and thirty eight. That's the worst record for an NBA champion,

566
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Speaker 5: but they had Elvin Hayes and west Unselt, who were,

567
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Speaker 5: you know, surefire hall of famers, And we knew it

568
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 5: then when they were playing that they were Hall of famers.

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Speaker 8: Queen the Pacers. They squeaked to fifty wins. They were

570
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 8: ten and fifteen in December. Their two best players were

571
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Speaker 8: drafted twelfth and twenty seventh. Overall, this is not the

572
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Speaker 8: profile of a championship team.

573
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Speaker 5: And again, they still have to win one more game,

574
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Speaker 5: and it's going to be the hardest game to win.

575
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Speaker 8: But if the.

576
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Speaker 5: Pacers can find a way, to me, you cannot find

577
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 5: a grander Cinderella in NBA history than them winning this championship.

578
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Speaker 4: And mark. With that being said, let's flip it. If

579
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Speaker 4: OKC loses, what does that mean?

580
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Speaker 5: If OKAC loses, it would obviously be devastating because they

581
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 5: had one of the greatest regular season resumes ever and

582
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Speaker 5: that all gets thrown out the window if you don't

583
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Speaker 5: win it all. You'll just ask the seventy three win Warriors.

584
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: They didn't win that year, and you almost never hear

585
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 5: anybody bring up that team which started twenty four and oh, which,

586
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: in all of my life covering this league is one

587
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: of the most amazing things I've ever seen, and I

588
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 5: don't think it will ever be duplicated, a team starting

589
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: a season like that, But nobody talks about any of

590
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: that stuff because that team didn't win at all. That

591
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: team is some ways forgotten now, but as devastating as

592
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: it would be. You know, if we want to talk

593
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Speaker 5: about teams that are set up amazingly for the future,

594
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 5: I mean OKAC is you know, they're in better shape

595
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 5: than Houston when it comes to their young core, the

596
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: assets there. I mean, they have the optionality to keep

597
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 5: making moves, keep making their team stronger. And that's why

598
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: if the Thunder win, you're going to hear all the

599
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 5: dynasty talk. You know, they are probably the one team

600
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Speaker 5: in the NBA that could win in this current state

601
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: we're in where there's been seven you know, we're headed

602
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: for a seven champion in seven.

603
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 8: Years, which has never happened in the NBA. Seven different

604
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 8: champions in seven seasons.

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Speaker 5: But the Thunder are set up for long term success

606
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: no matter what happens tonight. But they don't want to

607
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: think about that, talk about that. I mean, they don't

608
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 5: even want to hear any of this, Like they it

609
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 5: would be crushing for them to lose this now because

610
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Speaker 5: like you know, like Carry said, when they won Game five,

611
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: you you know, you think they're in control. You know,

612
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: the Game five winner goes on to win the finals

613
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Speaker 5: I think seventy.

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Speaker 8: Five percent of the time, So.

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Speaker 5: It would be it would be devastating for them, Letten.

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Speaker 5: It'll be devastating for the Pacers, I mean too, if

617
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Speaker 5: they can take it all the way to the end

618
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Speaker 5: and fall short. I mean, that's another fascinating question, how

619
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Speaker 5: will history look at these guys if they fall one

620
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 5: win short of a championship?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last one here, Mark. Do you think the finals

622
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: MVP is up for grabs on either side? Good question?

623
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Speaker 5: Yeah, probably. I mean I'm certainly up for grabs on

624
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: the Indie side because Haliburton has been injured and so

625
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: he's you know, he's not going to be a full

626
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: capacity tonight eater, So that certainly opens the door for Siakam.

627
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 8: I can't really see anybody.

628
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: With SCA winning it if OKC wins win Game seven, But.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's you know, it's fairly up for grabs.

630
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Speaker 8: I guess is wha put it?

631
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Speaker 4: What about TJ McConnell. He's been a spot Mark, he's

632
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: been excellent. I know, I know it's I know that's

633
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: not happening, but I just love He'll.

634
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 8: Probably have to settle for just be.

635
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, no, for being the hero in Indiana. Maybe

636
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: it never has to pay for another meal. Mark, Thank

637
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us on this Sunday Enjoy

638
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Game seven. We will talk to you soon.

639
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 8: That's good guys, Take care.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark. You can follow Mark Stein on twit x

641
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: at the Stein Line. Our NBA correspondent. That was crazy

642
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: where you mentioned that Houston. That's the Suns wanted this

643
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: from Houston all season and they try to stick it

644
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: out because people they don't want to admit that they

645
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: messed up. They don't want to admit that they were wrong.

646
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: And I love I actually loved that for it like

647
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: Houston side as well. I mean, you know, knowing that

648
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: the teens wanted to get that stuff, they asked, that's done.

649
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: I get that, But Houston's standing farm on, No, We're

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Speaker 4: going to see what our young corps has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we have a new champion. And let's

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Speaker 2: check in with Martin Weiss to tell us what is

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Speaker 2: happening in the world of sports.

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Speaker 3: Morton, we do go Tigers, God banners.

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Speaker 9: Ed Orgeron would say, And I know plenty of people

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Speaker 9: from my home state are celebrating as Louisiana State Tigers

658
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Speaker 9: have just clinched the College Baseball World Series, getting a

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Speaker 9: ground into double play to end the ninth inning. The

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Speaker 9: tying run was on basis five to three. The final

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Speaker 9: score LSU wins the World Series and men's College baseball

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Speaker 9: two games to none over Coastal Carolina. In the WNBA,

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Speaker 9: the Aces beat the Fever eighty nine to eighty one.

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Speaker 9: Fever I mean Aces leading scoring by Asian Wilson with

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Speaker 9: twenty four points. Had five players in double figures. Caitlin

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Speaker 9: Clark seven for twenty from the floor, one for ten

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Speaker 9: for three nineteen points on the day. She's now one

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Speaker 9: for one for seventeen from her last three pointers and

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Speaker 9: her last three pointers attempted the last two games Dallas

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Speaker 9: and Washington. The Mystics with a ninety one to eighty

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Speaker 9: eight lead with twelve seconds left in overtime. Riquelgumbwale with

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Speaker 9: twenty seven points. She leads Sonya Citron also has twenty

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Speaker 9: seven for Washington. The Dream and the Sky ninety three

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Speaker 9: to eighty. Atlanta beat Chicago. Earlier today in Major League

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Speaker 9: Baseball active games, bottom of the sixth inning, the Red

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Speaker 9: Sox beat the Giants five to from leading the Giants

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Speaker 9: five to four. Top of the seventh, Guardians with the

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Speaker 9: three to nothing lead over the A's Astros and Angels.

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Speaker 9: Houston leads by e eight to five. Top of the

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Speaker 9: sixth inning, Royals lead the Padres two to nothing in

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Speaker 9: the bottom of the seventh, and the Washington leads La

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Speaker 9: the Dodgers, that is three to nothing in the bottom

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Speaker 9: of the sixth inning. Earlier today, the Yankees beat the

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Speaker 9: Ooriols forty two, Marlins beat the Braves five to three,

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Speaker 9: Tigers outscored Raised nine to three, Ragers defeat the Pirates

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Speaker 9: eight to three, White Sox top the Blue Jays Florida two,

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Speaker 9: and the Marlins came from behind against Atlanta with a

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Speaker 9: five to three win.

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Speaker 2: And you guys were just talking about it.

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Speaker 9: The Phoenix Suns have agreed to a trade sending fifteen

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Speaker 9: time All star Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets, Dalen Green,

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Speaker 9: Dylan books Brooks, the number ten pick in this year's draft,

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Speaker 9: and five second round picks will go back to Phoenix

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Speaker 9: when this trade can be it's all consummated. And this

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Speaker 9: is one of my biggest pet peeves and I'll leave

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Speaker 9: I'll pick it back to you with this.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're about to say. What is that

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00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: the two greatest words in sports?

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Speaker 9: No no, no no no no. I do I love

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Speaker 9: the two grades. I agree with this one. But okay,

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Speaker 9: the idea that we all know that the tenth pick

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Speaker 9: in the draft is going to Phoenix but on draft

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Speaker 9: night he's going to have to walk out there and

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Speaker 9: si Adam Silver, sheandon wear a Rockets hat?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 7: Why?

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Speaker 5: For?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 1: For?

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Speaker 2: Who who's it for? Because then it just looks stupid.

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Speaker 9: Like, let's say this guy becomes an incredible player and

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Speaker 9: is a Hall of Famer, and every year on his

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Speaker 9: draft day, when we go back to look and see

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Speaker 9: what type of shilly shoe he had on, he's gonna

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Speaker 9: be wearing the wrong hat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness for AI, We'll just swap it out.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, he is not wrong, and he is

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Speaker 2: Martin Wise. Thanks Martin. Be sure to check out our

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Speaker 2: don't think many people move the needle like this guy

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Speaker 2: does carry and we're gonna talk about that next. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. I am Manci Bolanas alongside former All

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Speaker 2: Pro safety Carry Roads hanging out with you on this

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00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: day where we found out that Kevin Durant is going

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Speaker 2: to the Houston Rockets carry and I really like that

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Speaker 2: move for Houston. They were already contenders. Now they're I

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Speaker 2: don't know, extra contenders.

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Speaker 3: They were number two in the West with.

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Speaker 2: Reason for a reason because all of the effort, gritty

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Speaker 2: stuff that other teams don't do, they already did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so now they add Kevin Durant. Sniper, yes, easy money,

742
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Speaker 2: slim ripper, slim reaper, who doesn't like his name. He

743
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Speaker 2: doesn't like his name. Kevin Durant moves the needle. He does,

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Speaker 2: he still does at his at his age. It's impressive.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty five points wherever he plays, wherever he play,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, no, And that's that's a mid game.

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00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: That's easy. That's an easy game. He's not trying. But

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Speaker 2: somebody that moves the needle in a way that it's

749
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Speaker 2: like I watched this up close and personal because I

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Speaker 2: work for them. Uh huh show he o Tani Like, oh, TONI.

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Speaker 2: I work for the Dodgers. You know, I work in

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Speaker 2: the tour department. I've been working for the Dodgers for

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00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: over ten years, and so I've been there up closer long.

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00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: It's been that longing eye. I said I was gonna

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00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: quit three years ago, and then we signed Shootanni. I

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Speaker 2: still there. Uh So this past week, late at night

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Speaker 2: on Sunday night, after the game, it comes out notification

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Speaker 2: show heo Tani will start on the mound tomorrow, almost

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00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: two years since the last pitch for the Los Angeles Angels. Carrie.

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Speaker 2: There was no other way to do that but to

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Speaker 2: drop the information last minute. People were there. We opened

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Speaker 2: the gates early, not even a twenty four hour notice,

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Speaker 2: and he you know, Dodger fans and olay, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of traffic. You might miss the first pitch a

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Speaker 2: lot of times. You just show up in the first

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Speaker 2: inny second. Everybody was in their seats to watch this

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Speaker 2: many pitch for one inning, by the way, I know,

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Speaker 2: but it was the only way to do it. Because

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Speaker 2: the gates opened an hour early, people were there. People

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Speaker 2: probably didn't go to work carry that day, and I

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Speaker 2: went into work. None of us knew even even our

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Speaker 2: security had to like on the on the fly adjust things.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: It was a last minute decision, but it was the

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Speaker 2: only way to do it. If you would have told people, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: in one week or Tani's gonna make his debut on

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Speaker 2: the mound, people would have lost their minds for an

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Speaker 2: entire week.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: There's I don't know if there's other if there's players

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Speaker 2: that actually can do this, where like the whole city

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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, we're not going to work tomorrow' I'm

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Speaker 2: going to Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 4: No, not to that, not to this degree right now, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously this is also it was a monumental

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Speaker 4: moment as well. I mean, this is going to be

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Speaker 4: his first time on the mound with the Dodgers, and

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Speaker 4: of course it was going to break break the internet,

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Speaker 4: that that thing. But I want to see him pitch.

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Speaker 4: I know they're easing them in absolutely, of course, but

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Speaker 4: the whole thing, he's going to pitch the game. I

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Speaker 4: was like, always going to pitch five six innings. He

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Speaker 4: eight pitches. I'm like, all right, a little bit more,

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Speaker 4: but I'm sure they'll ease into it.

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Speaker 2: And he today he went back on the mound, just

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Speaker 2: the first inning. Struck out two today, but in his

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Speaker 2: first outing, two of his pitches went over one hundred

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Speaker 2: miles an hour. It did, yes, and like you were

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Speaker 2: just like, man, he hasn't And what's crazy is Carrie?

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Speaker 2: He finished the He finished the inning. He didn't even

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Speaker 2: step into the dugout. He stepped off to the side.

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Speaker 2: They gave him that shin to protect his ankle. Yep,

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Speaker 2: and then he went aback because he was first. He's first, right,

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Speaker 2: what are like on reel we talk about unicorns and

805
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Speaker 2: like this and that, but show how Tawny is the

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Speaker 2: real deal. He gets hit by a pitch, he don't care.

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Speaker 3: That point, he don't care. He walked over to the

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Speaker 3: bench like, what's up.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, hundred miles proud on my shoulder blade. I'm good,

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Speaker 2: no problem. And you know what, there's no problem because

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Speaker 2: we have two more hours to go carry so much

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Speaker 2: still to talk about NBA, NFL with our insider Adam Kaplan.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday. That is right, what's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: I forgot to turn my mic on like it's my

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Speaker 2: first day. What's up? Everyone? Happy Sunday? Mary Mack on

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Speaker 2: the ones and two is giving me that. Yes, thank you,

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Speaker 2: that's what I wanted. You got me, girl, You got me.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Happy? KD goes to the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 2: Day Happy Game seven Carrie. For a hot second, I

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Speaker 2: forgot we have a game seven.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget that.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget we're rushing. Oh yeah, we're gonna be signing

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Speaker 2: off like already with the door open and running to

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Speaker 2: our car so that we can watch this game at home.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, we are gonna dive into game seven later

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Speaker 2: on on the show. But something happened about a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it happened like a week ago exactly today or

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Speaker 2: maybe Monday. But once again, Lebron James starts trending. Once again,

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Speaker 2: Lebron James starts saying things, and you're just gonna scratch

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Speaker 2: your head like, huh, Lebron, what, I'm sorry? What did

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Speaker 2: you just tell Steve Nash? I love Steve Nash? Squeez him?

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Speaker 2: Can't we have sound of Lebron? Just in case you

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Speaker 2: missed it? Here we go.

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Speaker 6: It's funny.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why I've discussed so much in our

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Speaker 6: sport and why is the all be all of everything.

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Speaker 6: You sit here and you tell me, you know Alan

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Speaker 6: I Everson and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash, you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, wasn't unbelievable, Like, oh, they can't be talked

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Speaker 6: about or discussed with these guys is because this guy

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Speaker 6: one one ring or one two rings or one like

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Speaker 6: it's just it's just weird to me. It's like Sam

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Speaker 6: Peyton Manning can't be in the same room with Brady

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Speaker 6: or Mahomes because he only has one ring. They don't

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Speaker 6: never discuss that in the sport or telling me that

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Speaker 6: Dann Marino is not the greatest slinger of all time,

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Speaker 6: or he can't be in the room with those guys

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Speaker 6: because he didn't win a championship. They don't discuss those things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, so many things right.

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Speaker 4: Let me go first, Lebron moves the goal post more

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Speaker 4: than anyone in the history, but to benefit himself.

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Speaker 2: That's all this is. I mean, nobody's talking about that. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: We know that in the Annals of History. We put

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Speaker 4: the Goat conversation based on Michael Jordan. He has six

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Speaker 4: he has more than you. He doesn't have more than

857
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Speaker 4: Bill Russell. Nobody says Bill Russell is the best player

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Speaker 4: ever because he's won eleven rings. That's not part of

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Speaker 4: the discussion. The discussions only solely based around Jordan and

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Speaker 4: Lebron when it comes to rings. Because obviously, physically, we

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Speaker 4: look at Lebron and say, he's the most physically imposing

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Speaker 4: player we've ever seen in the history of basketball, at

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Speaker 4: his size to speed, what he does, that doesn't make

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Speaker 4: him the best player ever though, And I think the

865
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 4: conversation surrounding it usually does come around the rings with

866
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: them two, but that's not the whole NBA. And so

867
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: the fact that he says these things, it's only to

868
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: benefit himself, and then he likes to bring and drag

869
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: other people names to the conversation when it's like, no, Lebron,

870
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 4: just say what you really want to say. And if

871
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: he says that one day, then I will probably be like,

872
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: you know what, Lebron, I get you now. But he

873
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: never does.

874
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: No, there's nothing at this point, Lebron. You actually cannot

875
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: make anyone I think change their minds on their opinion

876
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: of you because of the way you present yourself, saying

877
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: after the wasn't it the twenty sixteen NBA Finals that

878
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: he's like, this is what makes me the best because

879
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: they beat the Warriors when the Warriors had the best record.

880
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: Remember yep, what you said that in twenty sixteen. Okay, Okay,

881
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: Like perfect example, Bill Russell, he's not in the goat discussions.

882
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Every now and then there is somebody who may bring

883
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: him up right and they're like, no, he's my goat,

884
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: and it's like okay, but in reality, we know he

885
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: has the most rings and nobody, nobody cares about that. No, no, yes, Lebron.

886
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: There are a ton of great players that deserve the

887
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: credit and recognition even though they haven't won a ring,

888
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: but we do. Allen Iverson gets brought up all the

889
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: time of how great he was, Charles Barkley gets brought

890
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: up all the time of how great he was. I

891
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: that's a lie. And also when you come down to it,

892
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: and if you have to.

893
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 10: Pick who the best player is and they're all the same,

894
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 10: then you go to rings, like like if everything else

895
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 10: checks off and you need one other factor to determine

896
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 10: why you're better, we're gonna go to rings, my guy,

897
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 10: Like everything else can be exactly the same.

898
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: And so it's just like you, I cannot believe how

899
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: many times you have changed the goal, switch the goal,

900
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: the goal post, switch, the storyline, change the conversation to

901
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: benefit you talk about Dan Marino. No, no, no, that

902
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: is the conversation dan Marino. They're like, no, he never won.

903
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: He can't be in the conversation. What do we talk

904
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: I hear that all the time. I legit, hear that

905
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: all the time about Dan Marino. And it's a perfect

906
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: season right that they didn't make it. Yes, he he

907
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: is not in the conversation. Peyton Manning has run twice

908
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: and yes they mentioned he's got two, but Tom Brady's

909
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: got six, Like what are this is what? He literally

910
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: just lies through his teeth.

911
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: Only to benefit himself.

912
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: And that's the part that's the crazy scary part about

913
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 4: it because he talks so much. I think the other

914
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 4: part about it from like priors, right, like the other

915
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 4: greats that we've talked about are discussed in the past,

916
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: they didn't have as many platforms to speak, and I

917
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: think that benefited them so so so much because what

918
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 4: you just said, things that you said nine years ago

919
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: still holds weight because.

920
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: You said it.

921
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: I can really yes, And that's.

922
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: The part where he has to be careful, and I

923
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: just don't think he gets that part of it. We

924
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: heard you say nine years ago you are the goat,

925
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: like put the crown to me, I'm the king, Like

926
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: we've seen that. So the fact that everybody's not on

927
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: board with that doesn't make them all wrong.

928
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: It just means you've put yourself in that position.

929
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: Correct. My problem here is that I agree with the

930
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: overall point that he's trying to make, right good point.

931
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: You make a good point, but then you make it

932
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: about yourself, and that's where you lose us because you

933
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: could have not mentioned you or like, I don't we

934
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: know what you're trying to prove because you're trying to

935
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: be the goat and everyone's you know, in every conversation,

936
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: but you could have had I agree that sometimes winning

937
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: a ring sometimes holds too much value as to why

938
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: you want to diminish someone's career. I agree with that. Yes,

939
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: there it's been unfair for some players where it's like

940
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: they were freaking badass and they just didn't get there.

941
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: But then this causes people to come out like Tracy

942
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: McGrady comes out and says, oh, you switch me with Kobe.

943
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 2: You don't think I could have done that, my guy.

944
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: You had Yelming on the rockets, you had and and

945
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Shane Battier. I'm like trying to remember Stephen is scull

946
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: out with the long hand. You had a good team.

947
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? And you did not get

948
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: out of the first round. Also, you were part of

949
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: the Orlando Magic when the East was still not great

950
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: and you didn't do anything and you were a star

951
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: in Orlando. Like I that's what is upsetting. It's like

952
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: then other people chime in and you know the joke

953
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: of like they're they're in clutch sports pockets, yes, and

954
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: it's like it feels like they are. Why are you

955
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: saying this, Tracy McGrady about Kobe Bryant. We saw Kobe

956
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: with our We saw you with our own eyes. We

957
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: saw you. You were great. You did not need to

958
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: bring up Kobe and say if you switch us, I

959
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: could have done that. Yeah.

960
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: No, it's just trying to make a point. But you

961
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 4: know him and Kobe are really really tight.

962
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: And so.

963
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: Kobe, Kobe's looking down right now, like, Bro, I'll haunt

964
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: you in your sleep.

965
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: Him and Kobe are really really tight. But the fact

966
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: that I know he was just trying to prove a point.

967
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: And that's the thing what I just said, though, like

968
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 4: we're giving all these people of the platform to speak

969
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 4: these things, right, And when you get out of the

970
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: game and you've been removed for a while, your perception

971
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: of your time playing and your situation. Sometimes we talked

972
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: about moving the gold post. Sometimes that gets a little

973
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: skewed even to me, Like I can see it as

974
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: a former player when I look at the game now

975
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: and be like, if I was planning in this era,

976
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 4: I have thirty picks. It's like your interpretation of the game.

977
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: We always see it as not being as good as

978
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: it was when we played, because if it was, then

979
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: we could still play it forty right, Like that would

980
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: be the thinking. And so I know where these things

981
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: are coming from. But I just want all of them

982
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: to pump the brakes and just your time's over. My dude,

983
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: you had your chance. We all saw it. We don't

984
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: need to relive it. We know this isn't like it

985
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: was forty years ago when we weren't you know, we

986
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 4: were two years old or not born. We witnessed it.

987
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: So you had your chance, you were in a good situation,

988
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: didn't get it done.

989
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: Just live with that, but also like Lebron, like you

990
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: are greet you didn't need to do any of this,

991
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: and you the fact that you're still doing it, it's

992
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: kind of like my guy, Like, like you said, you're done.

993
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: There is a new generation of players, and instead of

994
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: you trying to squeeze the juice out of your own talent,

995
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: you did not need to do that. You are one

996
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: of the greats. Nobody is denying that. And to some

997
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: people you are their number one, but to majority you're not.

998
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: You're you're a number two, maybe a number three, because

999
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: you keep rubbing people the wrong way in that part.

1000
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: Imagine Jordan comes on NBC this season and the whole campaign,

1001
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: the whole season, he talks about He's the greatest. You

1002
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: don't think he would take it. He would get some

1003
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 4: some flak for that as well. Like that's part of it.

1004
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: It's because you're saying it. Jordan has never been on

1005
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 4: record saying I'm the goat. Whenever that conversation comes up,

1006
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: he always deflects that he does.

1007
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: And that's what you should do.

1008
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would love Michael on a broadcast just

1009
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: score the Earth. Yeah, No, like if they bring it

1010
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: up to him, No, I'm the King. I'm actually the king.

1011
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: This guy is a cuckoo bird. He's great, but he's

1012
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: a kuckoo bird, and I am that would be great.

1013
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: But you're right, he's never done that. Kobe also never

1014
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: did that. No, And even like Shaq, Shaq who is

1015
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: great and he thinks he's the greatest big man. He

1016
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: thinks he's the greatest big man. But he'll also like

1017
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: give his flowers, and there is like a difference where

1018
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: it's like Shaq has never changed his mind. But he

1019
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: also doesn't move a goal post. He wants the big

1020
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: man to be a big man, and that's how he's

1021
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: gonna criticize you. If you're a big man who likes

1022
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 2: to shoot the three, he's gonna take you down because

1023
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: he wants you to play like he did. He's holding

1024
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: the same standard Shaq when he talks about the big

1025
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: man exactly, but when when it comes to Lebron, you

1026
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: hit it right on the head. It's just moving the

1027
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: goal post every single time, whether it's a little bit

1028
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: or a lot to benefit him, And it's so obvious

1029
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: to everyone and their mom, but yet he keeps doing it,

1030
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: and I feel like he doesn't realize that it's diminished

1031
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: his career. Yes, you're already great, Lebron. You're a great,

1032
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: no question, no question. I think also it's kind of

1033
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: just like, all right, you trying to convince us, you're

1034
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: trying to convince yourself. Who are you trying to convince?

1035
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: At this point? That's a great point because you've been

1036
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: around for so long. We have seen your career. There

1037
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: are no question marks as to what you can do

1038
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: and what you've done on the court, and you've had

1039
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: great moments. But rights, it's okay, it's giving insecure, Yes,

1040
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: a thousand per Yes, Yes, unreal.

1041
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 4: I just saw that game, the game you're talking about,

1042
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: the twenty sixteen game seven when they came back to

1043
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 4: beat Golden State in Golden State and he had.

1044
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: A great game, and and.

1045
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: I literally literally was watching it.

1046
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I actually like Lebron right now

1047
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: in that moment, like I was like, oh, I like that.

1048
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: And now you fast forward nine years and I can't

1049
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: stand what he does.

1050
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1051
00:51:53,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: I have a Cleveland Cavaliers Wow MVP cood sure Lebron

1052
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: James shirt. You've never seen me wear it, and I

1053
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: love wearing my all my sports stuff. Maybe I'll maybe

1054
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: I'll pull it out. I have that. I have a

1055
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: Miami Heat Lebron James shirt. I liked Lebron. I was

1056
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: a fan of Lebron. When he came to LA I

1057
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: still was like, okay, fine, you joined the team that

1058
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: I hate the most, the Lakers. I thought you could

1059
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: have been you want to call yourself the King. I

1060
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: thought you could have been the King of the East

1061
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: for your entire career, dominated the East. You came to

1062
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: the West and it's been mid, been mid for the Lakers. Yes,

1063
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: you won in twenty twenty, and there will always be

1064
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: a star on that one because it was not a

1065
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: normal year. Not that you didn't win it. Somebody was

1066
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: gonna win it. But if you were to describe every

1067
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: championship team with one sentence, right you get to twenty twenty,

1068
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, that's the bubble year. Like, there's no

1069
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: way you don't mention that, right, There's no way, you know.

1070
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: So it's it's different no matter how you slice it

1071
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: and dice it. It is different that you guys wanted

1072
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: that year and you won the d season Tournament. Whoop

1073
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: de dooo, Basel, What does it all mean? Absolutely nothing?

1074
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: In the grand scheme of things.

1075
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: Well, let Lebron tell it. He's going to move the

1076
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Speaker 4: gold post and it would be the greatest championship of

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00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: all time, of.

1078
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: All time, that one the in season tournament against the Pacers. Yes, unreal.

1079
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: It's it's really just like, Lebron, stop talk, king.

1080
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: Let us do it for you. You are great, Lebron.

1081
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 4: You there is no questions like, we don't need any

1082
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: assurance of that, reassurance of that you are great.

1083
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: Lebron.

1084
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 4: Listen to me, if you are listening right now, you

1085
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: don't have to speak about your greatness. You're the king.

1086
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: If you want to be called that, I won't call

1087
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: you that again. But right now you're the king.

1088
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: Right now, you're the king. Listen, I'm getting into this.

1089
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: What is this?

1090
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: I no, no, but I'm just this is a Swan song.

1091
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: Swan song.

1092
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: You don't have to do it.

1093
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna do it for you, no matter if your first, second, third, fourth, fifth,

1094
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: like you did with the ring thing, You're going to

1095
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 4: be good when you're out.

1096
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: But you got one you did not deliver. This was

1097
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: really frustrating to hear. And then the discourse continued and

1098
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: that made it even more frustrating because other people decided

1099
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: to chime in. But I do hear what you're saying,

1100
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: shedding light on like being a former player and looking

1101
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: at the game now, how you tend to want to

1102
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: feel like I could have done this had the game

1103
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: been like this for me, that makes sense to me.

1104
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: I get that. I guess, like even I think about

1105
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: my you know, illustrious high school volleyball career, was like, man,

1106
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: I could have been better, but I didn't take it

1107
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: seriously or he didn't put in the effort or all

1108
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: the things, and so I get that, but I didn't

1109
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: like it. And it's just as simple as Lebron, you

1110
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: don't need to do this.

1111
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: I just want to put a finger over his mouth

1112
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 3: and just like just hush.

1113
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: So like in Dumb and Dummer when he puts his

1114
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: finger on the girl's lip and touches and yeah, just go,

1115
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: just go, just go. Lebron, You're great. You're great. Nobody's

1116
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: denying it. Nobody's denying it. Well, on the other side

1117
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: of this, there is a rookie NFL player that is

1118
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: great but off the field not making the greatest decision.

1119
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk to Adam Kaplan our NFL insider. Next,

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Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. This is Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Everybody?

1121
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: Happy Sunday? You are listening to Fox Sports Radio with

1122
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: former All Pro safety Carry Roads and Me Mansiolanos, and

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Speaker 2: we got a jam going on. Mary Mack, who is this?

1124
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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 4: You know?

1126
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: I was like, it's not Carol g but it made

1127
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: me wonder if it was like okay, gotcha? Oh nice? Nice?

1128
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Speaker 2: I knew it was Spanish Rosadia. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. Yeah,

1129
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: so I was like, okay, all right, nice, Thank you

1130
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: Mary for bringing this song into my life. I may

1131
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: have to add this to my to my rundown. I

1132
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: send it to you. We are getting ready to speak

1133
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: to our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan, who is here with us.

1134
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Adam Happy Game seven in the NBA. Are you going

1135
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: to watch the game?

1136
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 7: I will?

1137
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 11: Look, I know the TV rings aren't great, but you

1139
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 11: know what it's it is a Game seven. It's gone

1140
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 11: farther than most people thought.

1141
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: Yep.

1142
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 11: It's been a very interesting series. I mean, it's just

1143
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 11: a shame that they don't have the national appeal. And

1144
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 11: that's that's the way it works in television, is that

1145
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 11: if you're not in a big meet and market if

1146
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 11: both or not, if they're in mid, mid or lower tier,

1147
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 11: it's just people are just not gonna watch generally.

1148
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: But but real quick on this marketing, they've done a

1149
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: bad job because when it's the super Bowl, I see

1150
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 2: super Bowl left and right. It doesn't matter who's in it.

1151
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: It's just super Bowl.

1152
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 7: Here, it's a great point.

1153
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: In the finals, I haven't seen anything.

1154
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 11: Well, here's the thing, guys. Look, first of all, the

1155
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 11: super Bowl is one game. Right, Sure, it's a it's

1156
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 11: not a best out of seven.

1157
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 7: That's that's part of it.

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00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 11: You're you're, you're just it's like the biggest game in

1159
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 11: professional sports. That's the way on your point, Montee, that's

1160
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 11: way it's been marketed. So I've covered the league. That's

1161
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 11: just the way it is. Whereas the NBA, and you're right,

1162
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 11: it like in the NBA. Look if it's if these

1163
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 11: are not New York, Boston, Philly, Golden State, well at

1164
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 11: a point, the gold Seat doesn't have the cashe that

1165
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 11: they once what but still it's not a national team

1166
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 11: like the NFL will tell you when when the schedule

1167
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 11: makers make the schedule, they have a group of small

1168
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 11: group of less than ten teams they called national teams.

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 11: Those are the teams that the networks won on television

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Speaker 11: the most.

1171
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 7: That's the way it is.

1172
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: It's the way it is. Before I give you a

1173
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: real question, what are the two greatest words in sports?

1174
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Is it Game seven or is it super Bowl?

1175
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

1176
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 7: Oh super Bowl?

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 11: Well see this, then let me let me expand on

1178
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 11: your point about just the matchups and so forth.

1179
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 7: The people are gonna watch really no matter what, that's true.

1180
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 11: The super Bowl has the most crossover appeal to nonsports fans.

1181
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 11: Why you've got little little friendly wagering, you've got it's

1182
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 11: the biggest thing.

1183
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 7: Everybody gets to go.

1184
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 11: My mother, okay, my ninety five year old mother would

1185
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 11: ask me for years who I liked in the game.

1186
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 11: She wasn't because what they have the what are they

1187
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 11: called squares or something? Yes, yes, yeah, she would play

1188
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 11: squares at the Super Bowl parties. And that there you go, MONSI,

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00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 11: it is crossover a peal. She doesn't know anything, She

1190
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Speaker 11: probably coudn't even name who the teams are, but she

1191
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 11: wants to play squares. It's just the crossover peal. We

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 11: don't have that unfortunately in other sports, like we have

1193
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Speaker 11: in the NFL.

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you're right. Everybody loves squares and they doesn't

1195
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: matter who's playing, who's what. People go to Super Bowl

1196
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: parties just because it's a party. Yeah, no, okay, you're

1197
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: you're right, all right. First real question here, Adam news

1198
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: this week that Shador Sanders twice this month cited for

1199
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Speaker 2: speeding over one hundred miles an hour. This is just

1200
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: a bad start for a fifth round pick in a

1201
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: situation where there's five quarterbacks on the roster. What do

1202
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: the Browns do with this?

1203
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 11: Well, look, they've talked to him, they know everything about it.

1204
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 11: They know it's not just once, it's twice. We're not

1205
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 11: surprised if he's fined. Fine, sometimes they're not made public,

1206
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 11: but look, they have to set an example here. This

1207
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 11: is just not good because, for one, understand, he did

1208
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 11: some good things in the OT program. I know it's

1209
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 11: the off season, you don't put a lot of stock

1210
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 11: into it, but there's a situation here, folks, where you've

1211
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 11: got four quarterbacks. They don't know their starting quarterback is

1212
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 11: going to be. There's an opportunity for him to.

1213
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Speaker 7: Carve out a role this season.

1214
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Speaker 11: And as a matter of fact, once you get once

1215
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 11: they get out of the playoff rates, which should be

1216
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 11: around that Thanksgiving, if not before. That's typically when you

1217
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 11: look at the younger, not just younger quarterback, you start

1218
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 11: looking towards next season.

1219
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Speaker 7: So, yeah, this is not good.

1220
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 11: You don't need this kind of distraction, and it just

1221
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 11: goes to show shows you there's a sign of maturity.

1222
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 7: He's got it, He's got no better and that's just

1223
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 7: the way it is.

1224
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Speaker 4: I think a follow up on that same topic is

1225
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Speaker 4: if this was any other fifth round pick, would they

1226
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: be released right now? In your opinion? What do you think?

1227
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Speaker 11: That's a good question. You know, that's a really good question.

1228
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 11: Well speeding, okay, wasn't going to d u y or

1229
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 11: anything like that. It's being still not good, so one

1230
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 11: could get hurt obviously, right, you don't want to have that,

1231
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 11: but that because of what happened, I would say probably not.

1232
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Speaker 7: No, I get the question. It's a fair question.

1233
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Speaker 11: But if there was something more serious then and that's

1234
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 11: completely different. Absolutely you consider doing it even even though

1235
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 11: it's should or Now, what if let's put it this way,

1236
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 11: what if it had not been Shud or Sanders but

1237
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 11: a second or first round pick. You know, that's that's

1238
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 11: a good place in to carry's question and point the

1239
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 11: higher the draft pick, the greater challenge. Just the way

1240
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 11: this league is, you could say whatever you want, it's truth.

1241
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Moving on from there. You have a

1242
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: follow up on this one. Okay, perfect? All right? Adam?

1243
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: Last week I asked you about JayR Alexander Civilly joining

1244
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: the Ravens and you did not think that was going

1245
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: to happen. It obviously did?

1246
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 7: Was this?

1247
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: Why?

1248
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1249
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the.

1250
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Speaker 11: Money he was They were not signing for ten to

1251
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 11: twelve million, which is really what he should have gotten. Yep,

1252
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 11: the real money is four million dollars like that?

1253
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: Really? Is that it?

1254
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: Adam?

1255
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 11: Yes, woes how look, I know he wanted to play

1256
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 11: with Lamar.

1257
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 7: I know it's part of it.

1258
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 11: There's a saying in the National Football League, wen you

1259
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 11: he had a number of teams interested in him. Now,

1260
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 11: usually Carrie knows this, Usually I have leverage. However, if

1261
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 11: they're all offering four to six million a season, you

1262
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 11: just go. You go somewhere where you know you could win. Now,

1263
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 11: my thought process was when you asked me that there's

1264
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 11: no way he's going to get less than ten to

1265
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 11: twelve million in the season. I understand their concerns about

1266
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 11: his injury history.

1267
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: That was my fire.

1268
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 11: I also said he wouldn't make anywhere close to seventeen

1269
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 11: and a half million, that that was true, that was

1270
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 11: what he was due. I'm guaranteed with green Bay. But

1271
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 11: it is surprising that the real money is only four million.

1272
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 11: That that's a stunner to me. And here's the other thing,

1273
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 11: because I've learned this over the years. If you have

1274
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 11: an offer like this, unless Baltimore is gonna put off

1275
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 11: the table, why don't you just wait till start a

1276
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 11: training camp or wait till somebody gets hurt. You know,

1277
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 11: that's just the way. Unfortunately, that's what happens. I mean,

1278
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 11: players get hurt, then you have more leverage. I'm and

1279
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 11: I know John Thornton. You know his agent who played

1280
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 11: in the league, and you know John's it's on his call.

1281
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 11: He just tells him what's out there and what the

1282
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 11: money looks like, what other teams are offering. And I

1283
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 11: know there was more money out there for him, But

1284
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 11: to take four million, to me stunning, that's just I Look,

1285
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 11: I'm not him.

1286
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 7: So he's made a lot of money.

1287
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 11: His curse so he's he could, he could, he could

1288
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 11: say he could just take something low in June.

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Speaker 7: It's still surprising, let's be honest about it.

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01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's he played seven games last season, none

1291
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: after thanks Giving.

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Speaker 7: But you know what, he's only twenty eight.

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Speaker 11: And think about this, right, Baltimore had a problem at

1294
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 11: corner last season. Nate Wiggins did a good job and

1295
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Speaker 11: and you you look at their situation. They knew going

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01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 11: They brought in Chiudobi, a woozy. He was a good player,

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01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 11: but he's been hurt a lot. He'll be a backup.

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 11: And they felt like they needed another starting corner because

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Speaker 11: Marlon Humphrey what they like. He starts obviously, but when

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01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 11: they go to Nickel, they like to have him play inside.

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01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 11: They didn't have another cornerback they felt that could start

1302
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 11: or could come in. And that's where JayR Alexander comes in. Now,

1303
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 11: by the way, four million dollars is really backup money

1304
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 11: the National Football I gotta be honest with you, Yes,

1305
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 11: that's the surprising thing. Carry I don't know about you,

1306
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 11: but that that to me to take four million.

1307
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 7: There's upside to it to get the six, but I

1308
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: just I don't buy it.

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01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 11: I would not if I was advising, I said, let's

1310
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 11: I mean, if you want to make some money, why

1311
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 11: don't you wait.

1312
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 7: To have real leverage to get real money? But you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm definitely surprised. I mean I've known

1314
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 4: I've known Jayere since he was a kid. I mean,

1315
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Speaker 4: I've known him when he was at Louisville and sure,

1316
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 4: always eager to play. I mean, and you know, NFL

1317
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 4: changes changes you, obviously once you started to make the

1318
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 4: big bucks. But he was a kid that just wants

1319
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: to play. Adam, that's that's you know. He likes to compete,

1320
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 4: and likes to talk, likes to do all those things.

1321
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Speaker 11: And so go helps them. By the way, Baltimore that

1322
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 11: they are now stacked. Nate Wiggins had a good rookie season. Yeah,

1323
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 11: Alexander Humphrey a woozy. Now now they've got and TJ.

1324
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 11: Tampa was the fourth rounder, was hurt last season, so

1325
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 11: now they've got legitimate corners. This is this is really

1326
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 11: good for matchup purposes, no question. And Gyr again months

1327
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 11: you're right throwing it back to you. He's had a

1328
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 11: number of injuries. He missed twenty games the last two seasons,

1329
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 11: but he's only twenty eight and the talent is not

1330
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 11: the table from one understand, was pretty good lest season

1331
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 11: when he played.

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Speaker 7: He just you can't pay guys if they're not healthy.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Fox Sports Radio. We've got our

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01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: NFL insider Adam Kaplan joining us right now. All right,

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: Moving on to Travis Kelcey. Apparently he's lost twenty five pounds.

1336
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: He's trying to get back in it.

1337
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 7: Maybe got a.

1338
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: Better haircut and anyone he needs one, he does. I

1339
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: don't know if that was guys. You know he's he's happy,

1340
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: he's in love. You let yourself go, you let your

1341
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: hair go. But he's lost twenty five pounds. Can we

1342
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: see the Travis Kelsey we saw two years ago. Carrie's saying, no.

1343
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 11: Ra he really fell off last years. Yeah, I tell

1344
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 11: you well, carry Look carry played. He knows that when

1345
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 11: you lose your legs at a skill position, when you

1346
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 11: got to run, he does. He's not doesn't move as

1347
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 11: well as he used to it. It was a struggle

1348
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 11: for him.

1349
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 7: Now. I know.

1350
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 11: I was told by someone who knows him pretty well

1351
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 11: that despite all that, he told me this after Super

1352
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 11: Bowl has listened. I know it's going to be out

1353
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 11: there that he might retire. He's not going to retire

1354
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 11: because he's got way too much pride. He's not going

1355
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 11: to go out like this. But I said to this person, now,

1356
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 11: hang on a second, but what.

1357
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 7: If you lose it? Why? Like that? Carrie?

1358
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 11: You tell me, as a former player and you've seen

1359
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 11: it from around the league during your time, what happens

1360
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 11: when you can't run as well.

1361
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you. When you can't run as well, obviously,

1362
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 4: you start to do things that are out of character, right,

1363
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 4: Like you'll for him, he's a tight end and he

1364
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: does it anyway.

1365
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: He's a good body positioner.

1366
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 4: I you know, you know the perfect example of not

1367
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 4: having it anymore and still played a couple of years

1368
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 4: down in the stretch of their career. That was Tony

1369
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: Gonzalez when he went to Atlanta. I love Tony, so

1370
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 4: this is not a slide on him at all, but

1371
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: when he went to Atlanta he was.

1372
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: Such a shell of himself.

1373
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 4: And when I was covering him, like just having those

1374
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: one on one battles that we used to have.

1375
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Speaker 7: You know it. Oh so it's a player.

1376
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: Wow, you really saw yeah? Like you you literally sit

1377
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: on everything.

1378
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 7: Could you describe that like what you saw? Yeah?

1379
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 4: No, no, I mean there's no shiftinginess in Tony Gonzalez

1380
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 4: in his Atlanta years, right, So all he did to

1381
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 4: get open was run to you, push off and position

1382
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 4: you almost like playing basketball, right, And that's what those

1383
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: big guys do. And I can see Travis Kelsey still

1384
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 4: kind of being that he's not going to be a

1385
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 4: guy that's going to be able to go fifteen yards

1386
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: down the field and run a flag and get open

1387
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: right like a little if you need five six yards

1388
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 4: a cal the middle, he can do that just.

1389
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: By body positioning.

1390
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 4: But when you can't run and get separation, you just

1391
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 4: you're no good in that league.

1392
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 7: Wow, that's good.

1393
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 11: So you know zach Ertz is I'll give an examples

1394
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 11: to zach Ertz with Washington and they love having him

1395
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 11: for his leadership.

1396
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 7: And he's still look, he gets first stands, he gets open.

1397
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 11: Not that Zach was a Bernie, wasn't the athlete that

1398
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 11: Kelsey was, right, but veteran savvy knowing how to run routes.

1399
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 11: And I know they do a lot of option routes

1400
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 11: with chiefs him and Mahomes. You know that that that

1401
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 11: really good chemistry. But man, the thing about Travis who

1402
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 11: made him so special he will be a Hall of Famer.

1403
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 11: By the way, yes, is his ability to run after

1404
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 11: the catch.

1405
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 7: Bond.

1406
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 11: See as we sent it back to you, that look

1407
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 11: lost last season. He just didn't have it all right.

1408
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: So NFL network at him has a bold prediction okay,

1409
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: that the Broncos are going to dethrone the Chiefs in

1410
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: the ash.

1411
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 7: It's funny.

1412
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 11: This is out, so I'll talk about it. I actually

1413
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 11: picked on television on Sports grad. I actually picked the

1414
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 11: Chargers to win the division. Churts so terrible gets the

1415
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 11: Chiefs from number two. But I completely miss on the

1416
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 11: Chargers last season. I didn't see with the roster.

1417
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: Me neither.

1418
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 7: But man, look great coaching you carry.

1419
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 11: You know this great coaching could sometimes overcome Look Washington

1420
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 11: with the coaching they did. The roster wasn't that great.

1421
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 11: That's why they regretsive the offseason. So this is the Manzi.

1422
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 11: The great thing about this league is when we think

1423
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 11: we know, we don't know Denver by the oddsmakers last

1424
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 11: year was given it four and a half win total.

1425
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 7: Okay, four and a half.

1426
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 11: Trust me, I thought about like I thought it like

1427
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 11: maybe the other might happen.

1428
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't see it.

1429
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 11: Now, Now, look, do we know that Bonnicks would be

1430
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 11: as good as he was? And I know they had

1431
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 11: a great schedule that the schedule is easy. Some people

1432
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 11: point out, but they got in the playoffs. You say

1433
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 11: whatever you want. Now, obviously now teams know about them

1434
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 11: and they'll play them differently. But coaching matters, folks, man,

1435
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 11: it is super important this business.

1436
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Denver will not win that the vision. It will

1437
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 4: be Charges. I agree, really really I feel that way

1438
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 4: as well.

1439
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1440
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 4: I think they've added a few pieces that can really,

1441
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 4: you know, get them over the hump. Defense will be well,

1442
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 4: I mean, Kansas City is going to be Kansas City,

1443
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: but I think Different is going to take a step back.

1444
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 11: Actually, well, I'll tell what if the Chargers can get

1445
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 11: involved with Jayalen Ramsey and get him in there.

1446
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 7: Because they're not very good at corner. That's the one

1447
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 7: problem that I have.

1448
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 11: They got enough past rush, they're very well coached, but

1449
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 11: they're not very good at corner. That's going to be

1450
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 11: a problem for them. Are they overachieved at that position?

1451
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 11: You know, they've restocked their offensive line.

1452
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 7: I know they're good there.

1453
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 11: They feel like they're good at receiver and they add

1454
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 11: you know they're gonna run it with Harrison now with

1455
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 11: Mari and.

1456
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 7: Hamp Do, who I love.

1457
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 11: But the one thing that's going to prevent them from

1458
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 11: winning a ring is the cornerback position is not very

1459
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 11: good for that football team.

1460
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: All right, last one here, and it's it's early to

1461
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: ask this, but speaking of dethroning, do you think the

1462
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: NFC North is dethroning the A of C North in

1463
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: being the toughest division this year?

1464
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 11: Well, that's the I know what you're getting because you're

1465
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 11: assuming the Bears are Ben Johnson are going to make

1466
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 11: a big jump.

1467
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 7: I get that.

1468
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 11: Well, the problem is the Browns now, Look, we could

1469
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 11: all be wrong in this one. The odds makers, the

1470
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 11: public thinks they're gonna be terrible because of the quarterback position.

1471
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 11: They're given a four to four and a half way total.

1472
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 11: Some books have him at three and a half, which

1473
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 11: is comical. Yep, I would say this. The Bengals, I

1474
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 11: think that they're gonna bounce BA because they're gonna be

1475
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 11: coached better.

1476
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 7: Defensively. I don't know what they were terrible?

1477
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 11: List Yeah, on defense, we got Rodgers there in the

1478
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 11: AFC North, they have to be better, right, Well, I

1479
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 11: don't know about that. The people are still better in

1480
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 11: the under their bad look, they over owned Mike Thomas

1481
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 11: never had to losing record. The overrunner total is eight

1482
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 11: and a half, which is scratches my head. But I

1483
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 11: would say the NFC North has, yes, has a very

1484
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 11: good chance to be better because I think Ben Johnson

1485
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 11: is going to work out.

1486
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 7: They needed badly needed discipline. They've got it.

1487
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 11: He coaches hard. The Lions, we know they'll get Hutchinson back.

1488
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 11: They had a number of players they had this offseum particular.

1489
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 11: The draft packers are always good. Now here's the before

1490
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 11: we end this. JJ McCarthy's the simple. It's it's still simple.

1491
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 11: If he plays as well as they think he could play,

1492
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 11: they actually could push for the division. That's a little strong,

1493
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,480
Speaker 11: but they're really well coached. The decordinator Floors is phenomenal.

1494
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 11: Top three to Defen's the Bots, the natural FOOTBA League

1495
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 11: that's actually about it's a good point. Yeah, that's a

1496
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 11: really good division now that I haven't.

1497
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 7: Even looked at that.

1498
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: Come on, really, but it.

1499
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 7: Depends on Caleb Boyts a Ben Johnson. Yeah, we got to.

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: Say absolutely, Adam, thank you so much for joining us.

1501
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, Enjoy Game seven of

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, and we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: Right out. I've got it too, Thanks Adam. You guys

1504
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: can follow our NFL insider Adam Kaplan on ex Twitter

1505
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: at Kaplan NFL. Now, let's check in on Martin Wison.

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01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: What's going on, Martin? What's going on? How the Dodgers doing?

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: The Dodgers?

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Speaker 9: Uh, they call it B two A this generation does.

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 9: That's what I mean. Alright, I like that one.

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Speaker 7: Mary.

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Speaker 9: It's ugly right now for the Washington Nationals. It didn't

1512
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 9: start out that way. It was three nothing in the

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 9: third inning and all of a sudden sixth Any Max

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Speaker 9: Monty Grand Slam, and uh, it's now thirteen to three.

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01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 9: Key k Hernandez looks like he's taking the mound for

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01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 9: the Dodgers. So that goes to show you he's got

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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 9: a ten run cushion.

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01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: He's real good when he's in that position. He might

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01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 2: give up a few, though.

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Speaker 9: Fifty two first, yeah, exactly, not exactly a four seam heater.

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 9: Did he show hal Tany had a triple, so he

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 9: had a home run as well. So those still there

1523
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 9: getting their money's worth. For speaking of getting your money's worth,

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01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 9: the debate will be all Monday. Did the Phoenix Suns

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 9: do just that when they traded Kevin Durant to the

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01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 9: Houston Rockets, getting Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the tenth pick

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 9: in this year's draft back, and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 9: second round picks down the line. The Game seven of

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Speaker 9: the NBA Finals by ninety minutes away right now, and

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Speaker 9: we have a College World Series champion, the Los Angeles

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 9: the LSU wrong in ls LSU Tigers be Coastal Carolina

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01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 9: five to three in Game two, winning the series two

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01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 9: games to and Coastal Carolina's head coach and first base

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01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 9: coach got ejected arguing balls and strikes on the tenth

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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 9: pitch of the game, so that one had to heard.

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 9: Colts Carolina grounded into a double play to go ahead

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 9: and end the college baseball season. In the WNBA, the

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 9: Aces beat the Fever Indiana's lost too straight, eighty nine

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 9: to eighty one. The final score. Asia Wilson has twenty

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01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 9: four points. Fever I mean Ace has had five players

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01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 9: and double figures Caitlin Clark seven for twenty one for

1542
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 9: ten from three nineteen points in the loss, the Mystics

1543
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 9: beat the Wings ninety one to eighty eight and the

1544
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 9: Dream beat the Sky ninety three to eighty.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thank you, Marian. You're listening to

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01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Coming up, we're going to test the

1547
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 2: cruise knowledge easy as one, two three four. Don't go anywhere.

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01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday. I love this song. This is

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: a jam talking about wedding songs that should be played.

1550
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: This is a good wedding song for all weddings. Martin,

1551
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: play this at your wedding. My mom knows this song,

1552
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: you guys. That's how that's how great this song is. Okay,

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: three six nine, what's up? Everybody? Happy Sunday. You're listening

1554
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio. Get low former Hemepro Safety carry Roads.

1555
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: I am Manti Bilanos and it is time for some

1556
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: fun easy as one, two, three four where I test

1557
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: the crew's knowledge a lot of sports today. We've got

1558
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: Martin as a lifeline. Carry needs you. Yes, Mary Shay,

1559
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: everybody's here, but we're gonna get into it because we

1560
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: don't have a ton of time, as we like to

1561
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: do Carrie, always too much to talk about, never enough time.

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01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: All right, the guys and gals here don't have to

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: give me the whole answer. They just have to give

1564
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: me a piece of the answer. And again, I'm not

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01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 2: trying to make this difficult, but it might be I'm

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01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 2: gonna give you over under. I don't know if you're

1567
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 2: gonna know the answer to that question. So I'm gonna

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 2: say five and a half, five and a half. It

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: might be a little difficult. And a half maybe yes,

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: five and a half. All right, So let's go name

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: one of two schools that have won the most College

1572
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: World Series titles.

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean, would it be LSU?

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy. Let's go with the guy.

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I say d I'll say, I'll tell you like

1576
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 9: this every time I hear about the college because you

1577
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 9: just want it, I'll tell you, all.

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: Right, show me LSU. That is right. They actually have

1579
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: eight with today's win, USC has the most twelve twelve

1580
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: for USC, LSU has eight, Texas has six. Okay, let's

1581
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: move on here. Name two of the three players in

1582
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: the NBA that have won four Defensive Player of the

1583
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: Year awards. Two of the three two of the three. Uh, Rudy,

1584
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: Rudy and Bear history are active today, NBA history.

1585
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you, I got Rudy Gobert and then

1586
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 4: Wallace and Ben Wallace.

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01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: All right, show me Rudy Gobert that is correct, Show

1588
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: me Ben Wallace that is correct. Guys, the other player

1589
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: you know it to Kenby Mtumba.

1590
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: You guys knew it. You knew it all right. In baseball,

1592
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: aside from cal Rawly and Aaron Judge, give me three

1593
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: of the four players with the most home runs right now.

1594
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: Aside from cal Rawly, he's the leader. He went today

1595
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: thirty one and also Aaron Judges next with twenty seven.

1596
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: Give me three of the next four. Yeah, I'm about

1597
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: to say, go for it.

1598
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: I know, I know the one you don't too, Okay.

1599
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 2: Last week she got on us for saying Mike Trout.

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: We did say Mike. He had he had the first,

1601
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: he had the furthest good. You're right, you're right, that

1602
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: was good. Otani is what's the guy from Alonzo?

1603
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 3: Is Alonso up there?

1604
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know you want to, I don't know you

1605
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: want to.

1606
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 9: Put I know for a fact, former Detroit Tigers prospect.

1607
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 9: A you henne O Suarez.

1608
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: The fact that you said his name correct? Ohano correct?

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01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 7: I'm here?

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: Is that all right?

1611
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 9: He played for the Reds and he's got a ton

1612
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 9: of home runs, and honestly he's plays for bad teams

1613
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 9: and always hits a ton of homewn he's.

1614
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: On the Diamondbacks right now. But you want to put

1615
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 2: on yeah, yeah, put you're good. Okay, we got to

1616
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: give me. He's another one. Yeah, Otani o'hanno. And he

1617
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,799
Speaker 2: said you want to go Alonzo?

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 3: You say Alonzo.

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01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 4: I want to say him, but I'm not sure. I

1620
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 4: know he's on the cusp there, No, he's down the

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 4: noise around.

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 9: I'll tell you this. The Metchics heven home run. Yes

1623
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 9: you say Peeluns didn't have one.

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01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: He didn't have one of them. Go with your guy.

1625
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 4: We need one more. Anybody else got one? Got shay,

1626
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 4: I know you're tired. Say look at say his face.

1627
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 4: He's so he's a baseball guy, though, come on, say

1628
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 4: give us one. I'll good Schwarber leadoff guys. Schwarber and

1629
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 4: Otani have the most leadof her runs in like of

1630
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: all time, of ever.

1631
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 3: Say Cayle Swabber, Yes, okay, let's go.

1632
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: All right, show me show he Otani. That's right. I

1633
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: think he hit one today? Did he hit went today?

1634
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: So he's up at twenty six? Now Ohenniel Swatis has

1635
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: twenty five, so you are right on the money. And

1636
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber, show me Kyle Schwarber. Yup, he's got twenty three.

1637
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: So you guys got all of them. Pete crow Armstrong

1638
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 2: is the next one. Yeah, so not but Peter A.

1639
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: Lonso is in the top, like twelve, but not in

1640
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 2: the top. All right, all right, guys, NBA question for you,

1641
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: name four of the five players this is the final

1642
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: one that have had the most assists in a playoff run.

1643
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: Now there's players that have done it multiple times, but

1644
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: give me four of the five names. If you were

1645
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 2: to look up, it's for five players that have done

1646
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: it the most in an entire playoff series run, the

1647
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: most assists. I go Yoka, I go Joke Joker Jokic.

1648
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I was not gonna. I was

1649
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 2: not thinking him that.

1650
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 3: I go Yoka.

1651
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: I keep putting the combined running down. Let's go go

1652
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 2: their guts, guys.

1653
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: I'll go Magic. Ok I go Luca.

1654
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 2: No, you know I would not say Luca.

1655
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 4: You got modern basketball is quicker, so more.

1656
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 9: Tam right, but I'm thinking older basketball. John Stockton led

1657
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 9: gotta have more.

1658
01:18:59,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1659
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: So I need four of the five? Are those of five?

1660
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,480
Speaker 2: Four Magic, Luca Jokic.

1661
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 3: With Nash being there as well?

1662
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. You tell me give me for the five.

1663
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 9: I like Jason Kidd and Steve Nash over Luca, both

1664
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 9: of them for there, but Steve Nash all right, yeah,

1665
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 9: knock Luke out the rest.

1666
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 3: The rest should be good there.

1667
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 2: So you said Magic, Jokic, Nash, and Stockton. Is that

1668
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: what we're going with? Then I want to fifth. I

1669
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: got a Jason Kidd in there. That is an honorable mention. Okay, sure,

1670
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 2: all right? Show me magic, Magic, win's it? Three oh three?

1671
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: Show me John Stockton, correct, show me see Nash? But

1672
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: is it Luca? Is it? Yokish?

1673
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 7: Uh?

1674
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 5: Do?

1675
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: Listen to Fox Sports Radio What's up Everybody? Our number

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: three with my buddy Carrie Rhads on this Sunday, Game

1677
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 2: seven of the NBA Finals, tipping off in about an hour.

1678
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: At the last hour, we finished up easy as one, two, three, four,

1679
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: where I test the crew's knowledge barely. We did get

1680
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: through it. Marin came in clutch as one of your lifelines.

1681
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: But the last question was who has had the most

1682
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: assists in a playoff run like a single playoff run.

1683
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: It was not Eugenio Elhemio is an MLB player, He

1684
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: has no assist that I know of. But Magic Johnson is,

1685
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, has the four top records. So you guys

1686
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: got Magic Johnson. Three oh three is the most ever

1687
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: for a playoff run. Three hundred and three assists, and

1688
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: again he's the name top four. But then Rajon Rondo

1689
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: comes in. You guys did not get Rajon Rondo. He

1690
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: is two hundred and twenty seven. And then after that,

1691
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson comes in again. John Stockton comes in. He's

1692
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: in the top ten two seventeen, and you guys got

1693
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 2: John Stockton. Magic Johnson comes in again. Dennis Johnson comes

1694
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: in with two oh five. You guys got Steve Nash

1695
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: two oh four, Isaiah Thomas to one, Drew Holliday one

1696
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: ninety nine, Lebron James one ninety eight. Russell was ninety

1697
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: eight as well. Tyres Halliburton won ninety seven this playoff

1698
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: run run, so he could catapult himself in a top ten.

1699
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: What does he need he has right now, so one

1700
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: ninety seven, if he got ten, it would take him

1701
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: into the top ten over Dennis Johnson with two oh seven. Yep,

1702
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 2: he would, he would. He can do that today, you guys.

1703
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: He can absolutely do that. It's a perfect segue into

1704
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: Game seven that we're gonna get to all watch in

1705
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: about an hour. Very excited. Last week you dismissed. You

1706
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: don't like the word dismissed, but you did. You dismissed

1707
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: the Pacers. You didn't think they could pull it off,

1708
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: going back to okaysee, you thought it's gonna be over.

1709
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna okay, see will win this and six. And

1710
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: I was just surprised because you have been so high

1711
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: on the Pacers for so long, and many people were,

1712
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: including me, I like jumped late on this bandwagon to

1713
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: believe that the Pacers could get this far. I did

1714
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 2: not believe scoring by committee was gonna be successful in

1715
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: the long term of the playoff run. They've proved me

1716
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: wrong because Tyrus Haliburn has been so fun to watch,

1717
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: Pascal Siaga, TJ McConnell, I want his jersey. Can I

1718
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: get his jersey, Like, what am I doing? He's been

1719
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: so great and listen, okay, see has been super fun

1720
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: to watch as well. They have been very exciting. But

1721
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 2: the big surprise year has been the Pacers, right.

1722
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to go for it. No.

1723
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 2: I the game in game five and okac that they won.

1724
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 2: I didn't watch you it live and I went back

1725
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: to watch it. And what I told you last week

1726
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: was even if the Pacers lose, it matters how they lose.

1727
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: And when I finished watching that game, already knowing that

1728
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: the Pacers lost, I was like, how did they lose?

1729
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: I want to go see this. Pacers did not play well.

1730
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: It was sloppy, it was messy, and they made a

1731
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: bit of a comeback and thunderstill won. And then after

1732
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Pacers absolutely are going to win

1733
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: Game six. They walked away from this not feeling down

1734
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: on themselves. That's what I thought, because of how sloppy

1735
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: and gross they played to start the game, that they

1736
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: still in the end were in it. Yeah it was

1737
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: a double digit, you know win, but it didn't tell

1738
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: the story. They made a run, Yeah they made a run.

1739
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean Game seven, Yeah, I mean all

1740
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: the chatter outside of real basketball fans and talking about

1741
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 4: you know, the ratings and all that stuff. Nobody cares.

1742
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 4: No real basketball enthusiasts are really enjoying this series, and

1743
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 4: I know we are. And I know when you get

1744
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 4: into a one game scenario, right, it just really gives

1745
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,879
Speaker 4: you that, like you have no margin for era. Everything's

1746
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: going to be tightly contested. I mean, people are going

1747
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 4: to be fighting for loose balls. Like it's when you

1748
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 4: look at that, I mean, you talk about the NBA

1749
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 4: as a whole, that's a product what we talked about

1750
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 4: this year, like people not playing hard, or people kind

1751
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 4: of taking it for granted and too many threes and

1752
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 4: all those things. That's not the case in this series

1753
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 4: at all. It's been fundamental basketball. It's been tough basketball. Obviously,

1754
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 4: you're at this level competing for a championship, right, so

1755
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 4: all the all the marbles are on the table and

1756
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 4: nothing's really being no stones being left unturned. And you

1757
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 4: can tell by Washington, like the coaches are going to

1758
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 4: every possible matchup, every possible scenario, every possible thing they

1759
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 4: can to help their team win. We're saying it all.

1760
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I know I've talked about it. We've talked

1761
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 4: about it. Rick Carlisle has been the ace, you know,

1762
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 4: the ace and the hole in this series. But I

1763
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 4: want to also give Mark dayton As some credit. Yeah,

1764
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 4: he's been able to you know, he made he made

1765
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 4: an adjustment that we didn't like in Game one where

1766
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 4: he took out Hartenstein and put in Casey Wallace. He

1767
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 4: made the shift back to Hartenstein back in the in

1768
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: the in the starting lineup in Game four turned the

1769
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 4: series back. They won those two games. They won those games,

1770
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 4: got back in the series, and now we're gonna see

1771
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 4: who's gonna make the best decision in Game seven. Because

1772
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 4: game seven, anything can happen. I think the coach that's

1773
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 4: going to be more flexible in what they do in

1774
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 4: this approach will be the team that wins the series.

1775
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't give me statistics for a Game seven. I

1776
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: don't care, Martin. I don't care if the Thunder haven't

1777
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: lost two games in a row.

1778
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 9: Right, Well, do you care that the Thunder have their

1779
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 9: buses painted well under them?

1780
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Martin? I was about to bring you up for this

1781
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: here I am no. I understand. Okay, Martin found a

1782
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: great video.

1783
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 9: It's going everywhere You're going to see him up, I

1784
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 9: was Adam Schefter just retweeted it. So now we have

1785
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 9: NBA reporting done by somebody named mister Milkman seven oh

1786
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 9: two who recorded a video of the Thunder Open Top

1787
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 9: Championship buses fully painted somewhere.

1788
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where they are.

1789
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 9: Maybe they at least like a garage somewhere, a garage support.

1790
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1791
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they're in the arena.

1792
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 9: However, we're Carlisle saw the video, and so you have

1793
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 9: Milkman seven oh two and Curly Frow now tweeting, and

1794
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 9: these are the people getting the credit for breaking this

1795
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 9: news that Ramona show where and Adam Schefter and now

1796
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 9: retweeting and what Carlisle saw and said, that's all I'm

1797
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 9: thinking about right now after we watch that video.

1798
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: Yes, so to sum up in case, because I interrupted

1799
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: Martin because I was like, Mario, I was gonna tell

1800
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: you what for this, but you got excited, And yes,

1801
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: this is a bad precedent, this is a bad thing

1802
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 2: to show. But there is video. You can find it

1803
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: now really everywhere on ex Twitter, but Rachel Nicol specifically,

1804
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: which Martin sent us. So thanks Martin, there is video

1805
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 2: of buses for the thunder where it already has painted.

1806
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: They already painted on them champions like this is like

1807
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: for the parade. This is what it looks like. These

1808
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,480
Speaker 2: it looks like double decker buses ready for the parade,

1809
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: and it says, okay, see champions on it twenty twenty five.

1810
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: You know what that means, Moscy that Ricky, I don't.

1811
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is really already set up?

1812
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: How did you let anyone take video of this? Idiots? Idious?

1813
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 4: It's not set up, guys, listen in this in this scenario,

1814
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 4: it's a one game situation.

1815
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: There's t shirts and hats printed up for both sides.

1816
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: That's different, though, that is because you're selling that the

1817
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: minute you can. You're not gonna sell this bus. You

1818
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 2: could have painted this bus tomorrow.

1819
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 4: I bet you that's a bus in Indiana that has

1820
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 4: the same thing. It just hasn't been captured. Just so

1821
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 4: you guys understand, this is something that's not this is

1822
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 4: this is not a conspiracy.

1823
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: This it doesn't it's any if they win.

1824
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 3: Do I need do I need to be the adult

1825
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 3: in the room again?

1826
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 7: Here?

1827
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 2: No, you're not the adult in.

1828
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 4: The adult in the room. There is no conspiracy. The

1829
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 4: hats to your conspiracy the trophy.

1830
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: How can the engraving of the chop.

1831
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: He's he's on the payro ten minutes after the interesting

1832
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: plans twice if you need it saving, Yes, you guys

1833
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: can see it. But there's a conspiracy. You don't do

1834
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: this and you don't let someone tape it. That that's

1835
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: the conspiracy. How did they get leaked because you let

1836
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: someone tape it. I don't understand. This is bad. This

1837
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: is bad. So Rick Carlisle in his pressor pregame presser

1838
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: Rachel Nichol, Nichols has that he saw this video already

1839
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: that's gone viral and that's what he's thinking about right now.

1840
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 3: That's crazy, y'all.

1841
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: Motivation, talk about motivation, because you know what, I don't

1842
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 2: think the Pacers have a bus like this already. I don't.

1843
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: I think there are shirts because because they're going to

1844
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: sell that, because after the game they're going to put

1845
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: that on. Yes, they're not having a parade today at

1846
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: ten pm. They're doing a parade in a day or two.

1847
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't believe that the Pacers already

1848
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: have painted their bus, and the fact that they have

1849
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: painted their bus. I can't you, guys, you're going to

1850
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: a Game seven in the NBA Finals. You went to

1851
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: a Game seven against the Denver Nuggets. You are not you.

1852
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: You have not been in cruise control. No to do this,

1853
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: it seems oh hasty, it's a little hasty. Have a cocktail.

1854
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 2: What if I told you me? No, Well, I've told

1855
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 2: you I have a cocktail. Have a cocktail. When you're

1856
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 2: gonna make a decision like this, think about.

1857
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 3: It, you guys.

1858
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: Should we paint this right now? Maybe we should wait

1859
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: till the game's over.

1860
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, maybe maybe that that that coat

1861
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 4: of paint what's about to be dry or go extinct?

1862
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 4: That that actual color. This is not like a normal

1863
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 4: color either. It's a color you have to go get,

1864
01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: and I'm sure color.

1865
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: You have to go get. It's white. I'm looking at it.

1866
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 3: I thought it was blue.

1867
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean the buses. No, I think this bus was

1868
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: already probably theirs.

1869
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: No, that's what I was thinking.

1870
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 2: That's and then they're putting a champion. I gotta see

1871
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: it again, you gotta see I think these are just

1872
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: their buses. And then they have made the champion on

1873
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 2: the side. The twenty twenty five. Let me make this

1874
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: bigger for you. I'm making you watch this in the

1875
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: size of a tiny, tiny little squear just quickly.

1876
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 9: Why would they have double decker bushes but no tops

1877
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,919
Speaker 9: just sitting around? I think that they probably recently purchased

1878
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:36,440
Speaker 9: these buses. Shut up, I'm shutting Hollywood celebrity tow.

1879
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 2: It does look like that. It does look like you.

1880
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 9: Think they just they just taking top down tours of Okay,

1881
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 9: see all the time.

1882
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so, maybe, I mean, why not? Okay, fine, fine,

1883
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: you're right, true, I don't know what they do. Yes, now,

1884
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 2: now we're right. You're right.

1885
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 3: Made a whole little real argument.

1886
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: Regardless, Guys, this to me is not comparable to like

1887
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: shirts and hats already being made. I don't think this

1888
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: is the same. I can't. And maybe maybe this is

1889
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 2: something that is done. And what's the first time we're

1890
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: watching this? Right? But how did you let somebody tape this?

1891
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: How did you let it go on social media? You guys,

1892
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 2: come on, this is bad. And now if you lose,

1893
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 2: no one's gonna let you live this down. No, nobody's

1894
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 2: gonna let you live this down. Nobody was gonna let

1895
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 2: you live it down because you were expected to win

1896
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: in five games in a sweep, a gentleman's sweep, like

1897
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: everybody was into anticipating an easy route for you to

1898
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 2: get to the finals, especially when you handle the Grizzlies

1899
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 2: so easily. You have not been on cruise control. This

1900
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: is bad. I don't know what's gonna happen, but I

1901
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 2: will tell you. I think the marketing for the playoffs,

1902
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: or specifically the NBA Finals carry has been so bad,

1903
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 2: like the NBA has dropped the ball, and I understand

1904
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: that people maybe are not watching because ESPN sucks. I'm sorry,

1905
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 2: it does. It does, It really does. And stephen A

1906
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: you like I don't, you're watching solitaire. I don't want

1907
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 2: to listen to what you have to say because it

1908
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 2: means nothing. You're not even watching the game, so I

1909
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: can't take what you say seriously. Aside from looking at

1910
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 2: how cute Malika Andrews looks in her outfits, like what

1911
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: am I watching ESPN for? Honestly, I think that's part

1912
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 2: of the problem with the marketing and why people aren't watching.

1913
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: It's not just two small markets. It's people don't like

1914
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 2: ESPN and people don't like Steven a and people don't

1915
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 2: like Kendrick Perkins and people don't like whatever, And so

1916
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 2: why did the NBA do Carrie a minute? We had

1917
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals set up? How did I not get

1918
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 2: a commercial that was like foul merchant versus overrated? Who wins?

1919
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:42,879
Speaker 2: How did I get? How did I not get that commercial?

1920
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: It's been bad and I think that's why. Obviously NBC

1921
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 4: is back right after this. Yes, it will be, it'll

1922
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 4: be a different group of people. And obviously take us

1923
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 4: back to our heyday when the NBA Finals.

1924
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 2: Was was crazy. Huh.

1925
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 4: It was everything the marketing, the advertised and I guess

1926
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: we also got winners that we could root for Heavy

1927
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 4: sure and root against Heavy right Like I think that

1928
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 4: part of it was the thing as well. This final

1929
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 4: has been more of a coming out party for both teams,

1930
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: even though okay, see what's the best team all year?

1931
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 4: I mean like in this situation, like a chance to

1932
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 4: win it. It's it's a different thing. There's no like

1933
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: nostal joy history with the way ESBN.

1934
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 2: Does things, there is And I know people were upset,

1935
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 2: and I agree. Where were the floor dcals telling me

1936
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 2: that it's the NBA Finals and they said it was slippery.

1937
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: This is not okay, stop it. You could have found

1938
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 2: something that's not slippery. Don't lie to me. You ain't

1939
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 2: gotta light a kick it. You could have done this,

1940
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 2: but you dropped the ball. There's been no advertise. Give

1941
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 2: me a billboard. I understand. I'm in La. Give me

1942
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 2: a billboard. Because people love to hate. Watch exactly what

1943
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,440
Speaker 2: do we do when you have missed opportunity?

1944
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 3: You get to use both of all sens.

1945
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: You get to use. Because we saw Shay Gildas Alexander

1946
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 2: be hated not by everybody, but be hated because you know,

1947
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 2: goes for the foul. Then the story about mister overrated

1948
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 2: with Tyrese Haliburton, like it was all there. And then

1949
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton had game winners already leading up to the finals,

1950
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 2: like there were opportunities for you to market and make

1951
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 2: it be a topic of conversation, like we talked about

1952
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 2: this with Adam Kaplan. Super Bowl comes around the week

1953
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl. I can't stop seeing Super Bowl advertisements.

1954
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: And even if you don't care who's in the super Bowl,

1955
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: at least they're telling me as the Super Bowl. I

1956
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: don't care about UFC fighters or boxing. I know every

1957
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: single time there's a fight because I see an advertisement

1958
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: for it. Where is the advertisement in the marketing?

1959
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 4: It makes no sense. I mean, these are the most

1960
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 4: visible athletes in the world. I mean, obviously soccer is

1961
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 4: a big thing now, but I mean in America for sure,

1962
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 4: Like you can see them like they're good looking guys,

1963
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: and you can market them in a way touly like

1964
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 4: it's it's no reason that it should be a lack

1965
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 4: of advertisement when it comes to the NBA Finals, Like,

1966
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 4: nobody's getting together. We're not even going to watch this

1967
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 4: after We're just going hard to watching the game.

1968
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 2: That Carrie Corona is one of the least tasty beers

1969
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: in the world. But when I'm outside at the beach,

1970
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: Son is in my face Corona. I'm like, give me

1971
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 2: a Corona. Why because they market it because they tell

1972
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 2: me I want it. And it's silly, but that matters,

1973
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Patron not good tequila. At

1974
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 2: least it tastes like tequila. You know, I like my tequila.

1975
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 2: It tastes like tequila, which is why I don't like

1976
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,520
Speaker 2: cosam Egos because it doesn't taste like tequila. But Patrona

1977
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 2: is marketed so well where when I go somewhere and

1978
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: I ask for a specific tequila and they don't have it,

1979
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: they'll be like, but we have patron And then my

1980
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: my dumb person I was can I say I was

1981
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 2: gonna say about r my idiotself, Yeah, I'll take patron

1982
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: Why because you've advertised it to the point where it's like, okay, sure,

1983
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

1984
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 3: I don't know either.

1985
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 4: And again, like you said, I mean Adam Silva has

1986
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 4: no really he's done a good job with the NBA

1987
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 4: and trying to get it back on track, but they

1988
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 4: dropped the ball here. I mean the fact that, again,

1989
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 4: if you're not a basketball purist or an enthusiast, you're

1990
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 4: not watching it because there's nothing bringing you in. There's

1991
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 4: no trailer, there's no I need to watch them because

1992
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 4: I hate him. I need to watch them because I

1993
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 4: love him, Like I don't think anybody loves or hate

1994
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 4: anything about any of these things. We're just watching good basketball,

1995
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 4: and I think that's part of the reason. Think about that.

1996
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1997
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 4: If you watched the old school Bulls when I was

1998
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 4: a bull fan, like either you're a Jordan fan or

1999
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 4: lose and you will watch it because of either one

2000
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 4: of those things.

2001
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 3: Right, that's not the case.

2002
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 2: But you could have driven that. You could have driven

2003
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 2: hate watching in this situation for whatever reason. Now, okay,

2004
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 2: even shake Gil just Alexander fine, put it aside. Lou Dirt.

2005
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: Lou Dirt gets a lot criticism because he's gonna take

2006
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: your ankle out if he can.

2007
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he will, he will, No, and he's.

2008
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Gonna go after Tyres Slivern's cast.

2009
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 3: I'm scared.

2010
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 2: Game seven. He's heard somebody, he's hurting somebody. Look alive,

2011
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 2: Look alive. It's but there were so many where you

2012
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 2: could have had people at least tune in because you

2013
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 2: gave them one storyline that was a bit of like,

2014
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 2: you know what, Yeah, I don't want to see okay,

2015
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 2: see win. They've just they've had too much fun all year.

2016
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 2: Why why do they get to win already? Like they

2017
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: they really really missed an opportunity. Yeah, no, it's because

2018
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: it's Game seven. Is here so ober?

2019
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 4: Like even game seven, like even they had three days

2020
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 4: in between.

2021
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: They could have marketed. They could have put a billboard

2022
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 2: on anything. Any Game seven, Game seven.

2023
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody knows, but us and the people

2024
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 3: listening right now.

2025
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 2: The two greatest words in the sports, at least in June.

2026
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,879
Speaker 3: Game seven of the NBA.

2027
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 2: Finals, and they did not deliver.

2028
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 3: We're watching Steven they Smith in the.

2029
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 2: White suits and I could not care less, could not.

2030
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 2: They had a real opportunity and it drop the ball.

2031
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: They really just dropped the ball. Speaking of dropping the ball,

2032
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge did drop the ball in the World Series.

2033
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 3: But oh my god, no, you did not.

2034
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: Just se well, it's transitioning here, Carrie. There's a reason

2035
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm not just poking fun at your team here. Yeah.

2036
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 2: Is Aaron Judge gonna be the al MVP? I don't know.

2037
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 2: We're gonna dive into that next. Don't go anywhere. It's

2038
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

2039
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2040
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

2041
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2042
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: listen live.

2043
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 12: What's up, everybody, Hey, Happy Sunday. Happy Game seven of

2044
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 12: the NBA Finals tipping off very soon.

2045
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: Get ready, We're getting ready married one. Let's check in

2046
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: over the newsdesk with Martin Wises so you could give

2047
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 2: us a quick update. So what's going on. That's right, Monty.

2048
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 9: We are about thirty minutes away from the greatest two

2049
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 9: words in sports. Game seven, Oklahoma City and Indiana. This

2050
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 9: being played in okac Obviously, the Pacers with a big

2051
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 9: Game six win to force this Game seven. We will

2052
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 9: see how it goes. Thirty minutes away from tip off,

2053
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 9: the Phoenix Suns have agreed to a blockbuster trade, sending

2054
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 9: fifteen times All star Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets.

2055
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 9: The Rockets will get Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the tenth

2056
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 9: pick in this year's draft, and five first round picks.

2057
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, five second round picks. That's a big difference

2058
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 9: my second round picks and in a few upcoming years.

2059
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,759
Speaker 9: Sources told ESBN the College World Series over LSU the champion.

2060
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 9: Congratulations to the Tigers. They win the series two games

2061
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 9: to none. Win Game two five to three. Coastal Carolina

2062
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 9: grounded into a double play with the tying run on

2063
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 9: base in the I'm sorry to tying run at the

2064
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 9: plate in the bottom of the ninth inning. Coastal Carolina's

2065
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 9: head coach and first base coach were arguing balls and

2066
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 9: strikes on the tenth pitch of the game got sent

2067
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 9: to the locker room early, the clubhouse early, like.

2068
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 2: It's an elimination game. Guys, come on, reps, what are

2069
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 2: we doing? What are we doing? You're gonna get you

2070
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: should be fired a bit much.

2071
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 3: Up much much.

2072
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 2: It has a lot much, I mean, especially in a

2073
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:12,560
Speaker 2: tightly can tested game. This, I mean, it was just

2074
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 2: anyway ridiculous, ridiculous.

2075
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 9: The Dodgers beat the Nationals now Keik Hernandez came in,

2076
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 9: gave up a few runs, but it was thirteen to

2077
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 9: seven the final score of that game. Ended up having

2078
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 9: to get a pitcher come out of the bullpen said

2079
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 9: all right, K, thanks for thanks to the effort there.

2080
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 9: Padres appreciate.

2081
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 2: Beat the Royals three to two.

2082
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 9: Astros eight to seven over the Angels, Guardians blank the

2083
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:39,600
Speaker 9: A's three nothing. Giants beat the Red Sox twice in

2084
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 9: the last two days nine to five, Rockies double up

2085
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 9: the Diamondbacks four to two.

2086
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:45,919
Speaker 2: Man and there's.

2087
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 9: Fourteen Cup six Cubs struggling recently, that's lost like.

2088
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: I know, and they started hot. Yeah.

2089
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 9: Reds beat the Cardinals four to one, Brewers nine to

2090
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 9: eight over the Twins, Marlins five to three over the

2091
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 9: Braves brave just put Chrisale on the fifteen day il

2092
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 9: with fractured left ribcage White Sox with four to win

2093
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 9: over the Blue Jays, Pirates beat the Rangers eight to three,

2094
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 9: Tigers over Rays nine to three, Yankees four to two

2095
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 9: over the Orioles. And right now we are looking at

2096
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 9: Kyle Schwarber, who is what fourth in Major League Baseball

2097
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 9: and home runs. You know that if you were listening

2098
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,759
Speaker 9: earlier today he got none yet, but it is nothing

2099
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 9: scoreless on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, Mets Phillies, top of

2100
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 9: the Second League.

2101
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thank you Martin. Enjoy the rest

2102
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 2: of your Sunday, Enjoy Game seven. We appreciate you. Going

2103
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: into this MLB season, Carrie and I even thinking for

2104
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 2: the next couple of years, I was like, all right, well,

2105
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is going to be the AL MVP for

2106
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: the next couple of years. Johill Tony is going to

2107
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 2: be the National League MVP for the next couple of years.

2108
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: I just was like, it is their award to, you know,

2109
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 2: be taken away from and already in the American League.

2110
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 2: Cal Rawly, who plays for the Seattle Mariners, a switch

2111
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 2: hitter today, he won't stop hitting home runs. Today he

2112
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: hit another one. He's at thirty one, thirty one, the

2113
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: first switch hitter to hit thirty home runs before the

2114
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 2: All Star Break a couple of weeks away, fastest player

2115
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: to thirty home runs in only seventy five games since

2116
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds and Louis Gonzalez in two thousand and one.

2117
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: He and Ken Griffy Junior are the only two Mariners

2118
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 2: players ever to hit thirty home runs before the All

2119
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 2: Star Break. Also, how about this, It is his third

2120
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: consecutive season with thirty home runs, except last year he

2121
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: only did thirty four for the whole year. So now

2122
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: he's at thirty one. Sho Hao Tani is not having

2123
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 2: the spectacular season that he maybe did last year. To start,

2124
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: you can maybe say the same thing for Aaron Judge, right,

2125
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 2: But on the national league side, I really don't think

2126
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 2: right now anyone is challenging Sho Hao Toni. And it

2127
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 2: adds to the fact that obviously Shoeo Tani is now pitching, right,

2128
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 2: so we're talking so much about it. Cal Ray is

2129
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: challenging already. Aaron Judge, Ah, how do you feel about that?

2130
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, pump your breaks. Pump your breaks, my friend.

2131
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, this is impressive. Don't get me wrong.

2132
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 4: Thirty one home runs is ridiculous at this point. But

2133
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 4: we got a whole we got another half of a

2134
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 4: season left to go. And when you look at these

2135
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,759
Speaker 4: two teams, the Mariners, they're playing five hundred baseball.

2136
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 3: They're right, they're in the mix, they're they're they're there.

2137
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: But the Yankees are.

2138
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 4: Going to be in high pressure situations, high pressure games,

2139
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 4: games that are gonna matter down the stretch where if

2140
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 4: Aaron comes through and plays that the Rady's playing that

2141
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 4: right now. But he's got twenty eight home runs is

2142
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 4: not far off. I think it's right there. He's going

2143
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 4: to win the MVP because of that situation. In my

2144
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,839
Speaker 4: mind right not to. I'm not balking that cal Raley's

2145
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 4: what he's doing. This is amazing, but he's not going

2146
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 4: to overthrow Aaron Judge unless the Mariners win more. And

2147
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 4: that's the I think that's the point.

2148
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 2: So you think it's gonna come down to because not

2149
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 2: only does he have the most home runs and yes

2150
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 2: we're approaching, we're approaching the halfway points a lot, he

2151
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 2: also has the second most run runs bad at in Yeah,

2152
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: he's got sixty six swat is that like if if

2153
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 2: you you asked me who's challenging, maybe show Hetani in

2154
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: the American League, probably Ohanniel swatt Is. But it's because

2155
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: he's obviously like the pitching thing for Otani, it just

2156
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,839
Speaker 2: adds to it, right, right, So it's like the challenges

2157
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna be difficult with With Aaron Judge, you have

2158
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 2: a guy who's playing a field position and hitting the

2159
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 2: ball and hitting the ball for a team that like

2160
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 2: is up and down. Yankees can be up and down.

2161
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: They can be a bet. So you think at the end,

2162
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 2: let's say we're talking about this in a few months

2163
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 2: and Cal Ray and Aaron Judges numbers are interchangeable, Like

2164
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 2: they're off by one run, one home run, but the

2165
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 2: Yankees have the better wreck by a couple of games. Okay,

2166
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: you're saying it's like close, and it's close. Did you

2167
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 2: give it to Do you give it to Aaron Judge

2168
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 2: because he's a Yankee?

2169
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: No, No, you're gonna give the Aaron Judge because he's

2170
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 4: also a Golden Glove outfielder as well.

2171
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 3: So don't, don't, don't forget that part of it.

2172
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 4: Great defensive player makes great catches in the outfield except

2173
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 4: for the World Series and.

2174
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: Let me.

2175
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 3: And he's throwing people out from.

2176
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 4: Center field at the like he's gonna make other big

2177
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 4: plays outside of his his ops and it's I mean,

2178
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 4: you know, it's everything about Aaron.

2179
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 3: Judge is a juggernaut.

2180
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, for cale Raley

2181
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 4: to win that, I mean, these numbers are going to

2182
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 4: have to continue, but he's going to have to possibly

2183
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 4: win the Gold Glove that catcher as well. And so

2184
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 4: we don't I don't know how good he is that

2185
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 4: at at the defensive part of the game. It's not

2186
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 4: just about offensive numbers, people, it's the whole, the whole,

2187
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 4: the whole shebang. So I want to see what Kyl

2188
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 4: does outside of the home runs.

2189
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's true because Judge, his batting average has

2190
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 2: been amazing still and it's dipped and he's still one

2191
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 2: of the best ones. It's dipped. Yet he's three sixty

2192
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: seven or something like. It's something ridiculous.

2193
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 6: Right.

2194
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 2: Also on base percentage, slugging percentage, I hate ops and

2195
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 2: war I hate those numbers. But he he is, you know,

2196
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 2: leading still in that is just impressive what cal Rawley

2197
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 2: is doing. He's bringing attention to the Mariners. And when

2198
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 2: your name is being put up there with Barry Bonds

2199
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 2: and like Ken Griffy Junior, all of a sudden, people

2200
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 2: start talking and MVP sometimes it is a bit of

2201
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 2: a popularity contest, right And so like him already being

2202
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 2: discussed now is why I say he's already challenging, because

2203
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 2: there is nobody in the National League that is being

2204
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 2: talked about like this.

2205
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 4: Well I loved them to keep doing it. So Aaron

2206
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 4: Judge gets the memo uh huh and just goes on

2207
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 4: one of his storyts. So keep doing it, MOUSSEI just

2208
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 4: say it really loud, say cal Rally is going to win.

2209
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 2: The MVP right now, right now, And so Aaron cal

2210
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 2: Rawle's maybe gonna win because I maybe maybe, I don't know.

2211
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Aaron Judge, you hear this, Aaron Judge, Aaron.

2212
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 2: I love Aaron Judge. I'm going, you know, all rise,

2213
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 2: all rise all the time. I haven't here I have

2214
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 2: an Aaron Judger. I love him. I love him, all rise,

2215
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: all rise. I'm looking forward to what happens just because

2216
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 2: I like what you said, the challenge. There are players

2217
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 2: who live up to a challenge, and I hope Aaron

2218
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Judge does and he's paying attention, like, oh this guy

2219
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: is he does want to come for this absolutely, And

2220
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:36,839
Speaker 2: I'm not against the challenge.

2221
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 3: You just you just look at you.

2222
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 4: It's like you're outside run running back people houses, throwing eggs.

2223
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 4: You're trying to irritate people.

2224
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 2: You're trying to trying to irritate you. You're trying to

2225
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 2: make people.

2226
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 4: Come outside to salute you and see you and kind

2227
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 4: of find you. That's what Aaron Judge is going to do.

2228
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 4: And he's going to come out, He's going to salute you,

2229
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 4: and he's going to go on one of those runs

2230
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 4: where he hits a home run every game.

2231
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 2: You know how it goes, You know how it goes.

2232
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:01,600
Speaker 2: You're right, how are you on like envy? Like what

2233
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 2: what if? It's like, oh, Aaron Judge is great, but

2234
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 2: John Carlos stant is also great, like later in the season, right,

2235
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 2: and then it's Cal Rawly is like actually like more

2236
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 2: valuable to the Mariners. It's in his eyes, he's not

2237
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 2: liking this. Stop yet. We're not there yet, but fine,

2238
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 2: stop it.

2239
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 7: You know, what.

2240
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Let's do a little do it

2241
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 2: all right?

2242
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 7: Why not?

2243
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: Let's get into it with carry on or off. I'm

2244
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: gonna presents some situations, some topics to carry and he's

2245
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 2: gonna basically tell me whether he's on board with them

2246
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 2: or not. Carrie, are you on or off? Quick trips

2247
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 2: to Vegas? Let's start there.

2248
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 3: I am so off that. Listen.

2249
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 4: I am the resident old guy in the building, grandpa,

2250
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 4: and anything that gets me off the couch in a

2251
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 4: quick instant, it would be something I'm against. Yeah, And

2252
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 4: so going to Vegas on the seven hour journey there

2253
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 4: and back to go to a pool party kind of

2254
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 4: makes my head Hut.

2255
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see how Shae was looking like, so, yeah,

2256
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 2: and you saw.

2257
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 3: The youngest guy well besides Mary.

2258
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 2: Shae, Shae's yeah, one of the young you know, dead

2259
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 2: to the world.

2260
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't want that. I need stuff. I need energy

2261
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 3: to get about my day.

2262
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 2: So I'm off that. So back during your twenties, would

2263
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 2: you have done it?

2264
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 4: I only went to I probably went to Vegas to

2265
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 4: two times I can count to this point in my Wow.

2266
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not like a wild No, no, no,

2267
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: you would have died with Shaye on Night one, you

2268
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 2: would have died absolutely. Shane was there longer than I was.

2269
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 2: I was there for about seven hours. So all right, Carrie,

2270
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 2: are you on or off the idea that NBA players

2271
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 2: in today's game have a chance to be better than

2272
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 2: players in the past because of their ability to shoot

2273
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:57,480
Speaker 2: the balloo?

2274
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a basketball period.

2275
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm off that you're

2276
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 4: off that. I think the demand on shooting is a

2277
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 4: little bit more prominent now. The demand doesn't mean that

2278
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 4: they couldn't shoot out. I mean there's so many shooters

2279
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 4: from the past that you wouldn't even think about right now.

2280
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 4: But you know about him, Chris Mullen and yeah, I

2281
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,600
Speaker 4: mean de Ray Allen's and the Larry Birds, and I

2282
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 4: mean just so many shooters at that time. If they

2283
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 4: were asked to do what the game is asking the

2284
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 4: players to do now, they can shoot just as well.

2285
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 2: Interesting. So this comes on the heels of Scotty Pippens

2286
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 2: comments with ESPN where he talked that he thinks Jalen

2287
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 2: Williams could be a better two than him, and that's

2288
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 2: what people fixiated on that one liner that he said,

2289
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 2: but what he was actually saying, it's because of the

2290
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 2: ability to shoot. That was his entire point in saying that.

2291
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 2: But I like how you broke it down.

2292
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 4: And I think the thing about Scotty is he wasn't

2293
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 4: a pure shooter, right, He did everything really really well,

2294
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 4: but he wasn't a great shooter. And I think and

2295
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 4: that can be Errison, that makes sense.

2296
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 2: And and also he got better like Scotty Pippin got better.

2297
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 2: And so yeah, absolutely absolutely, Carrie. Are you on or

2298
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 2: off the NFL networks bold prediction that Daniel Jones will

2299
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 2: win Comeback Player of the Year.

2300
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 4: Man, I'm so off that Press that button quick, Mary,

2301
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. I've been on, I've been to Daniel Jones.

2302
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 4: I guess non supporter, not not a hater, non supporter.

2303
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 4: For a while, I thought that he had one good

2304
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 4: year in New York and when Brian dayball came in.

2305
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 4: But I think you fell back down to the meeting,

2306
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 4: which for him wasn't that high. I do think that

2307
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 4: he may play some play some this year and he's

2308
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 4: in Tennessee or is it?

2309
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got it, you just so he may

2310
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 2: have a.

2311
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 4: Chance to play with Anthony Richardson. But Anthony Richardson Steeles

2312
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 4: should be the guy there.

2313
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, uh you're you're a musical artist, Carrie,

2314
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: so you on her off artists bringing someone up on

2315
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 2: stage during their concert for like a special.

2316
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 4: Moment, only if it's Chris Brown. So other than that,

2317
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 4: I'm off. I know you were, I know you were,

2318
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 4: I saw, I saw that. You know what's funny is

2319
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 4: the Janet.

2320
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 2: Jack Jenny's Shae for a hot second, not liking that.

2321
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jennet Jackson did that for a while, which was

2322
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,719
Speaker 4: the same similar thing that Chris is doing. And obviously

2323
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 4: as a guy, you're like, oh, that's kind of cool,

2324
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 4: but when you do it too much, it takes away

2325
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 4: from the performance. We're there for that, not for a

2326
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 4: peep show type thing.

2327
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Jennet Jackson did it classier exactly, Yes, Chris Brown, that's

2328
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 2: just kind of creepy.

2329
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 11: It is.

2330
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 2: And the most recent video was tying People Up. You

2331
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 2: can't be classic and tie people up. Yes, you can disagree,

2332
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: Chris Brown. This keeps bringing up a girl and like

2333
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 2: laying her out on a keep.

2334
01:52:58,880 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 7: I've seen the one.

2335
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 2: The one she had a boyfriend was Kis Oh, yes,

2336
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 2: like Usher all over with Palmer.

2337
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 3: That also that one, Yeah, that's the one man. Usher's

2338
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 3: ridiculous US shirt.

2339
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 2: Was a bit ridiculous. But Chris Brown, I'm like, stop

2340
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 2: bringing out this bed and bringing this girl out here. No, no,

2341
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 2: it is a straight up love seat, so you won't

2342
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 2: be doing that.

2343
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 3: No, I'm off that.

2344
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:27,799
Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going to the show to hear Celine

2345
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 4: Dion's pipes, not watch.

2346
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean, you know, I get.

2347
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 7: This one.

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Speaker 2: I think you should do it. Yes, you man, you

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Speaker 2: would get a lot, you would get a lot of love,

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Speaker 2: You get a lot of people. Girls will get real

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Speaker 2: excited if you pull them up on stage. Carry my god, Carrie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll think about it because you guys are

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Speaker 2: telling me, but absolutely absolutely you know on the other

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Speaker 2: side of this, Carrie, I I understand money speaks, I

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Speaker 2: get it, I understand, but there are some things that

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Speaker 2: money to me does not matter, and we're gonna dive

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Speaker 2: into that. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Carrie Roads on X at Carrie twenty five Roads. I

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Speaker 2: follow us, we'll retweet it. We'll do the who the

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Speaker 2: whole thing, Carrie. So this week a big sale in

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Speaker 2: sports happened. A big sale, Genie Boss. The Bus family

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Speaker 2: decided to sell the Lakers for ten billion dollars billion

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Speaker 2: dollars exact. And that sounds like a number that I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna throw up, right, Like, I can't understand that, right.

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Speaker 2: But what I can't understand even more besides the astronomical

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Speaker 2: amount that is ten billion dollars, is the decision to

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Speaker 2: sell the Lakers. There's just some things where like I

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Speaker 2: don't think money can buy right, And I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to talk smack, but like you didn't sell the Portland Trailblazers.

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Speaker 2: You didn't sell the Washington Nationals. You didn't. You sold

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Speaker 2: the loss Angelus Lakers. I hate the Lakers and I

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Speaker 2: would have never sold them. Wow, for ten ten bees,

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Speaker 2: you wand have sold the Lakers.

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Speaker 11: I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's it's beyond that. It's beyond it's you have let

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Speaker 2: go of a few. There are very few sports franchises

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Speaker 2: that go beyond the sport that are an international brand. Yep,

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Speaker 2: and you I get it, ten billion dollars, but you

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Speaker 2: sold the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a great job though, so

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Speaker 4: like the owner of it, yes, obviously you want to

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Speaker 4: keep that in your back pocket. But I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's a great job. You don't get I mean, you

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Speaker 4: don't get credit for it. Really you're expected to do

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Speaker 4: it right. So that becomes old, that becomes a burden,

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Speaker 4: a burden, and so when the number, the right number

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Speaker 4: comes across, it's kind of hard to turn it down.

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Speaker 4: That's what That's where I would go with it. I

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Speaker 4: hear exactly what you're saying. But the burden that being

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Speaker 4: the name of that franchise has been for Genie Buss.

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Speaker 4: She didn't ask, well, she did ask you she did it,

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Speaker 4: but I'm saying she didn't. She wasn't there in the

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Speaker 4: in the beginning of I'm gonna buy an NBA team,

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Speaker 4: and this is you're going to have to run it.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't the plan. The plan was once she got

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Speaker 4: attached to it, and she really became really good at it.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm going to give it to her, She's the

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Speaker 4: one that's capable of doing it. But like it's something

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Speaker 4: that I'm sure becomes heavy for her and nobody else

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Speaker 4: can really do it in the family, right, So it's

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Speaker 4: a burden.

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Speaker 2: It is, And I will say, like I do think

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Speaker 2: it's a lot for somebody to take on, you know,

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Speaker 2: when her father passed away. I don't think she made

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Speaker 2: the right decisions in hiring her quote unquote friends like

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Speaker 2: the Rambises to do anything because her father put the

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Speaker 2: best people in front of him to do the job.

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Speaker 2: He just are the best people, for sure, And I

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Speaker 2: feel like that's maybe where she didn't make the right

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Speaker 2: decisions early on for the Lakers. But you could have

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Speaker 2: she could have turned that around, you could have. I

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Speaker 2: just can't believe. I cannot believe you sold the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: like you're never We're not going to see family's own

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Speaker 2: teams anymore. This is it's becoming less and less. Now

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Speaker 2: it's just like head funch guys and CEOs and a

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Speaker 2: group of billionaires and like you you could have the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: You sold the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: I get it, and it's I'm sure she has some

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Speaker 4: of that sentiment as well. But she'll be she'll be

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Speaker 4: okay when that check counts.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but wasn't she already okay? I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: no way she wasn't okay.

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Speaker 3: Oh she was okay. She's doing way way better than okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, but no, no what And now you don't own

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, and now you are, you are, you will

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Speaker 2: be a footnote.

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Speaker 4: In the I don't think I think they'll always be

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Speaker 4: associated with them, though, you know.

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Speaker 7: What I mean?

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Speaker 2: Her her father will, her father will, but not her

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Speaker 2: and the kids. I just cannot believe it. I just

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Speaker 2: cannot believe it. All Right, who wins tonight? Game seven

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals starting soon in about ten minutes. I want

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01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 2: the Pacers to win, but you want the Paces. But

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say okay, See you're gonna say okay, see

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Speaker 2: and you say, okay, see by a large margin. You

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Speaker 2: say what, Yeah, They'll win by ten, by ten, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Tyre's Halliburn is gonna win the game, is gonna hit

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Speaker 2: the game winning shots, win this in seven. Tyre's Halliburn

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Speaker 2: not overrated, right? I hope so too. It's Fox Sports Sunday,