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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and no he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: As a fragilecy spire holds President Trump renewing his threats

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Speaker 3: to Iran, saying the clock is ticking. In a social

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Speaker 3: media post, Trump saying quote, they better get moving fast

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Speaker 3: or there won't be anything left of them.

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Speaker 2: What kind of journalist does that?

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Speaker 1: He didn't shout the all caps parts that sounded like

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Speaker 1: AI journalism? To me was that it really sounded like AI.

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Speaker 2: I think it was. I think that would he accused

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Speaker 2: that dude of being AI before.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, there's some woman. Every time we have her on

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Speaker 1: our air, we say, we say, that's AI. Clearly quit

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Speaker 1: blaming me for being AI. You're hurting my kids feeling. Hey, Donald,

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Speaker 1: you can't threaten like that over and over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again.

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Speaker 2: You just can't.

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Speaker 1: Unless he just thinks he's speaking the language of the

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Speaker 1: Middle East, because that's the way they all talk in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East too, rivers of blood and armageddon, of

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Speaker 1: all battles.

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Speaker 2: And blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: I can I can forgive the second one of those

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Speaker 4: without carrying it out.

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Speaker 1: But this is at least the third vicaion. Oh, this

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Speaker 1: is like five or six right times. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: What is the one he said last week? Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was when you're go, We're gone. There'll just be a

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Speaker 1: glowing hole there.

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 1: I was there for the glowing hole. Oh gosh, that

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Speaker 1: was Those were good times. So wipe them off the

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Speaker 1: face of the earth. Glowing hole. This removed their entire civilization.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we'll catch up on where things are. But let's

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Speaker 1: turn first to tree yinst of Fox.

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Speaker 5: Reports indicate the Iranians have submitted it a revised proposal

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Speaker 5: to Pakistani mediators aimed at addressing some of the gaps

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Speaker 5: in their previous response, the President Trump described as a

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Speaker 5: piece of garbage.

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Speaker 6: Therefore, from the very day after we sent our points

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Speaker 6: to the American side via Pakistan, we were faced with

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Speaker 6: a series of proposals from the other side, which have

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Speaker 6: been reviewed over the past few days. As was announced yesterday,

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Speaker 6: our own views have in turn been conveyed to the

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Speaker 6: American side.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty charitable way to put it. Filling in

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Speaker 1: the gaps from their proposal in which they demanded reparations

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Speaker 1: for all the attacks on their country. They get to

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Speaker 1: continue to control the straight of horror moves forever, and

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Speaker 1: they get to continue getting a nuclear weapon. I would say,

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Speaker 1: those are gaps.

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Speaker 2: That's a gap. It's a big gap. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: that is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And then you got the pakistanis involved still in the

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Speaker 1: peace negotiations, when we found out last week that they're

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Speaker 1: allowing RAND to park some of their best planes there

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Speaker 1: during the attack so that they wouldn't get destroyed. Thanks Pakistan,

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Speaker 1: a little more on where things stand before start reading

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Speaker 1: you stuff.

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Speaker 5: Well, diplomatic efforts play out. The economic situation in Iran

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Speaker 5: is getting worse each day due to the ongoing US

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Speaker 5: blockade of Iranian ports. Sentcom says more than eighty commercial

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Speaker 5: vessels have been redirected and four were disabled to enforce

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Speaker 5: the blockade. A senior Israeli official told Fox News that

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Speaker 5: early signs are developing of a fuel crisis in Iran,

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Speaker 5: with long lines at gas stations being observed.

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Speaker 2: It's getting exponentially worse.

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Speaker 1: The official added, yeah, and so it's the race. So

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Speaker 1: who's got more pressure on them? Trump and American consumers

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Speaker 1: or the Ranan Again, you can't say the Ranian people

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Speaker 1: because they don't give a crap about the pressure on

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Speaker 1: the Ranian people on the Ranian government. So here's Mark

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Speaker 1: Alprin's writing from today, as a guy who has lots

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Speaker 1: of sources and takes in all the information. The mood

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Speaker 1: music is certainly building up towards a massive US Israeli

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Speaker 2: Against Iran this week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is massive this week, and the UAA flying

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Speaker 1: alongside Israel in the United States, egged on by the

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Grahams and others of the administration. There are i

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're about to get to that.

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Speaker 1: Their argument, echoing Ari Fleischer from last week, former press

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Speaker 1: it was absurd, has proven that they will never give

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Speaker 1: up their nuclear program or open the strait, that they're

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Speaker 1: just stalling for time, and that an overwhelming force to

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Speaker 1: is the only solution at this point. This point of

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Speaker 1: view might be correct, but it minimizes concerns over the

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Speaker 1: prospects of Iranian counter strikes, of which Tehran must be

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Speaker 1: presumed still be capable of.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: During the ceasefire, Iran has had so much time to

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Speaker 1: rebuild and reload. And then we don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: true or not that New York Times report last week

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Speaker 1: week where they still have seventy percent of their missiles

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Speaker 1: and launchers and all that sort of stuff, if that

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Speaker 1: turns out to be true. Anyway, back to Halpern's writing,

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Speaker 1: trying to reopen the strait is arguably a less dangerous

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Speaker 1: step than full on breaking the ceasefire, but its twin problems.

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Speaker 1: It isn't easy to do without substantial risks, and it's

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Speaker 1: unlikely to get a rand to the negotiating table in

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Speaker 1: a real way. It is clear now that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: can't rely on the cooperation of the Chinese, the charity

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Speaker 1: of Putin, the honest brokering of the pakistanis, the force

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Speaker 1: of the Israelis negotiating stills of Kushkov, or the sanity

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Speaker 1: of the Iranians. The President of the United States at

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Speaker 1: this point can only rely on himself, which is fitting

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Speaker 1: since he decided to start this epic project. So it's

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Speaker 1: down to Trump's decision on his own. Does he want

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Speaker 1: to use American mite to try to get what he wants?

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Speaker 1: I think that is where we've been for weeks.

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Speaker 4: Actually, my follow up question to Mark might be describe

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Speaker 4: opening up the strait without really violating the ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: What the hell would that look like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have that key on your keychain,

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Speaker 1: please lend it to me. That's a tough nut to crack, right,

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Speaker 1: if we tried to open the straight and we could lose,

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Speaker 1: we could easily lose fifty guys doing that. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: how would America react to that? One day, were the

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Speaker 4: So I read a piece by what's this guy's first name,

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Speaker 4: Seth Cropsey. He was a Creer naval officer, Deputy Undersecretary

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Speaker 4: about naval warfareries.

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Speaker 2: Now the president of the Yorktown Institute.

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Speaker 4: But he described kind of lead up to what's going

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Speaker 4: and then it was all going to hell. He had

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Speaker 4: two options, escalation or capitulation. He chose neither. Instead, he

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Speaker 4: sought a middle ground by blockading Iran's oil capacity. But

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Speaker 4: now we're back to the same choice a month later,

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Speaker 4: only now with less favorable macro economics. And then he

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Speaker 4: talked about how he's very, you know, skeptical about peace talks,

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Speaker 4: and he says that this time he needs to be

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Speaker 4: willing to follow through on the threat of catastrophic force.

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Speaker 4: That means preparing for a multi stage operation including boots

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Speaker 4: on the ground that forcibly reopens the strait of hormones

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Speaker 4: to accelerate the collapse of the Iranian state.

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Speaker 1: How about you think, So if that happens and we

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Speaker 1: lose guys, which we will, how do you think the

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Speaker 1: country's going to react to that. We've already got the

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Speaker 1: pulling out today New York Times Sheena poll only thirty

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Speaker 1: percent of Americans. I think it was a good idea

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Speaker 1: to go into Iran. Then you have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: marines die right. Here's the answer to that question is

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Speaker 1: kind of a two parter. I can cite so many

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Speaker 1: examples through history, whether civilian leaders or military leaders, who

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Speaker 1: delivered the brilliant message about there's going to be great sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: And here's why it's it, and people listen to that

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Speaker 1: and their hearts and minds removed and they realized. And

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Speaker 1: this goes down to the unit level in the military,

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Speaker 1: people realized, Okay, this is bigger than me. It's important,

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Speaker 1: it matters. There's going to be pain, there's going to

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Speaker 1: be blood, but we have to do this.

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Speaker 4: So the answer to the question, you know, how the

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Speaker 4: country reacts if we lose x number of guys depends

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Speaker 4: on the messaging and how persuasive it is and how

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Speaker 4: righteous the message is.

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Speaker 2: Man, you might be right.

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Speaker 1: My concern is that the average person doesn't believe Iran

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Speaker 1: getting a nuclear weapons a big deal. Who cares that

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Speaker 1: no amount of persuasion would or clever poetic rhetoric would

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Speaker 1: make any difference. I just don't care.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, well, that is practically an insurmountable problem. And

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Speaker 4: it's a good point though. It's a really good point.

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Speaker 4: If you make the most eloquent case ever made for

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Speaker 4: why this is important, and the person says, no, it's

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Speaker 4: not and then goes back to their TikTok videos.

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Speaker 1: What if you want a particularly damning view of the

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Speaker 1: average American, I'm gonna watch my TikTok videos.

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Speaker 2: I gotta watch my stupid TikTok video. Good bothering now

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to watch of that. Oh quit bothering me, man, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So uh. He goes into the fact that.

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Speaker 4: We thought maybe the new leadership was somewhat pragnematic.

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Speaker 2: They're absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: They're there, and he says if there are any pragmatists

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Speaker 4: long pause, which I absolutely have hated. Is there an

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Speaker 4: to your problems. But then Claude whirls on you and

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Speaker 4: says that gots your problem. I thought that was fascinating. Yes,

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Speaker 4: what a twist, no kidding. Claude fixed my chipping in golf.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, I had a terrible first day chipping in

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Speaker 4: that tournament I was playing in, and I said, hey,

447
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Speaker 4: I'm doing this and getting that result?

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Speaker 2: What am I doing? Said? Oh, it is easy fix.

449
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Speaker 2: You just got to do that I'm like.

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Speaker 1: It was brilliant, perfect, perfect, and then plopro put your

451
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Speaker 1: phone away and go live your life.

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Speaker 2: No, so maybe you ought to take a bowling you hack.

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Speaker 4: It was great, it was super help you with your

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Speaker 4: your life and meet with my chipping There you go.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was really really interesting, and so

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Speaker 1: watch out for that, I guess, the ruminating about something

457
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Speaker 1: that no, well, a therapist would let you do it

458
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Speaker 1: because they're getting paid, you know, one hundred and eighty

459
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Speaker 1: dollars an hour, so they don't care if you keep

460
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Speaker 1: coming every week with the same problem, repeating the same thing,

461
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Speaker 1: no matter what they say. Uh, but your friends will

462
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Speaker 1: get tired of it, but the chatbot won't.

463
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Speaker 2: And watch out for that.

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Speaker 1: Now to tti the troubled teen industry, which I had

465
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Speaker 1: never heard it called that before, but we've all heard

466
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Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. It's a multi billion dollar network

467
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Speaker 1: of private, for profit behavioral facilities, including wilderness camps, boot camps,

468
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Speaker 1: therapeutic boarding schools that market themselves to desperate parents as

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Speaker 1: a solution for rebellious or struggling youth. We have heard

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Speaker 1: about this, and my personal experience, I've never done one

471
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Speaker 1: of these with my kids, but my personal experience is

472
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Speaker 1: people having unbelievably good results. I don't have in my

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Speaker 1: in my own life. I don't have anybody that's got

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Speaker 1: a horror story. You see him on the news sometimes,

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Speaker 1: but I only have it was. In fact, I know

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Speaker 1: one guy I just gotten to know recently. He's in

477
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Speaker 1: his thirties. His kids sent him to one in Utah,

478
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Speaker 1: and he said, it's did that's his parents sent him Ah.

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Speaker 1: His parents send him to when he was a kid,

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Speaker 1: his parents send him to one and it was the

481
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Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened to him. And this is

482
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Speaker 1: Paris Hilton, the big horror story from one of myself.

483
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Speaker 1: She described it as a horror as a pampered youth

484
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Speaker 1: who had never had anybody make her do anything she

485
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Speaker 1: didn't want to do, so it was a horror for her.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

487
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Speaker 1: Might have been a horror, certainly you could have it. Well,

488
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Speaker 1: let me read this for you. The Ttida.

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Speaker 2: You have the video of her. I saw there isn't

490
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Speaker 2: a lot she doesn't want to do. Heyoh.

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Speaker 1: The troubled teen industry, core structure and tactics, the legal kidnapping,

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Speaker 1: many programs utilized transport services. In quotes, strangers hired by

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Speaker 1: parents to wake teens in the middle of the night

494
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Speaker 1: and forcibly transport them to isolation in rural areas, making

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Speaker 1: the process entirely legal due to parental consent. I mentioned

496
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Speaker 1: that one first because this friend of mine that I

497
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Speaker 1: just met recently, that's exactly what happened to him. He said,

498
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Speaker 1: I was woken up in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: These guys grabbed me, put me in a van and

500
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Speaker 1: took me to Utah and I was there for three months.

501
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Speaker 1: Andy says it was the best thing that ever happened

502
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Speaker 1: to him and straighten him out. Legal kidnapping because the

503
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Speaker 1: parents say, yeah, I got this troubled kid. I want

504
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Speaker 1: you to go in the room. Why is asleep because

505
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Speaker 1: he can't fight back? Then and take him there. Are

506
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Speaker 1: we bothered by this or not? Obviously the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: For abuse exists.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Do your research and hire a

509
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Speaker 1: good company, I guess would be my answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I'm just a quiverling wordsmith When

511
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Speaker 4: I say that the term illegal kidnapping is that's a

512
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Speaker 4: terrible term.

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Speaker 2: It's right, It doesn't describe the what's happening there? No, No,

514
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Speaker 2: it doesn't at all.

515
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Speaker 4: It is a transport without prior notice period.

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Speaker 2: I'm the adult. I make the decisions. I know that

517
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Speaker 2: doesn't go.

518
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Speaker 1: In California, behavioral modification facilities frequently rely on tough love methodologies,

519
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Speaker 1: stripping teams of teams of basic privileges, forcing them into

520
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Speaker 1: intense physical labor or isolation. Also used correctly, sounds fantastic,

521
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Speaker 1: Probably exactly what those kids need. Like the way they

522
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Speaker 1: put tough love in quotes, because it's supposed to sound scary.

523
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Speaker 1: Lack of oversight. Unlike juvenile detention centers or state hospitals,

524
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Speaker 1: many of these private programs operate with little or no

525
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Speaker 1: federal oversight. Well, that's why I would get some reviews

526
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Speaker 1: and be careful about who you choose.

527
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Speaker 2: Targeting vulnerable groups.

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Speaker 1: The industry disproportionately targets adoptees, who account for twenty five

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Speaker 1: to forty percent of residential care youth, and heavily relies

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Speaker 1: on controversial diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: Is like reactive attachment disorder. I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wait a minute, I don't like the way this

533
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Speaker 4: entire thing is written. I mean, I don't need to

534
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Speaker 4: be prejudicial or prejudicial in favor of these facilities. But

535
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Speaker 4: this is just wildly prejudicial against them. Targets adoptees, right, right,

536
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Speaker 4: what right does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Or do adoptees for whatever reasons of just you know

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Speaker 1: the reality of the way that.

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Speaker 4: Goes well, right, I've known some adoptive kids that have

541
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Speaker 4: had terrible, terrible emotional struggles in life.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've known some parents that adopted some kids that

543
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Speaker 1: it turned into a nightmare situation, whether it was because

544
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Speaker 1: of fetal alcohol syndrome or drug use of the mom,

545
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all.

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Speaker 2: Kinds of different things. Bring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one. I don't like this when

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Speaker 1: trauma and abuse reports consistently document systemic abuse sleep deprivation.

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Speaker 1: So I'll let you sleep all day to make you

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Speaker 1: get up early. In some cases, I'll bet that's what

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Speaker 1: that is. You're getting up at six o'clock in the

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Speaker 1: morning and washing dishes at the breakfast instead of a

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Speaker 1: lane in bed till noon.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Again, So it's all in the eye the beholder and

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Speaker 1: whether or not they're doing I didn't know that was

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Speaker 1: a thing though. The troubled teen industry, it is a

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Speaker 1: multi billion dollar industry. There are programs like this all

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Speaker 1: over the country. Again, my personal experience, I know, I

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Speaker 1: can think off the top of my head four different

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Speaker 1: instances of parents who say it was absolutely fantastic for

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Speaker 1: their troubled dean when you send them to a wildernness

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Speaker 1: camp or something.

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Speaker 4: And if somebody's abusive, you got to bust them and

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Speaker 4: put them out of business obviously.

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Speaker 1: If you're not feeling real good today, decent chance you

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Speaker 1: got a bowl? I think now over one hundred people

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Speaker 1: are dead in the Congo because of this new obowla outbreak.

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Speaker 1: Are what the question is? It's like a checklist. Are

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Speaker 1: you bleeding from the nipples?

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Speaker 2: Check? Yes, give me a second chance? I mean either.

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Speaker 1: So that is many, many, many times the number of

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Speaker 1: people who croaked from the haunt of virus on that ship.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so all right, what next? What disease are

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Speaker 2: you going to tout next? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think you'd probably get you know, we got a

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Speaker 1: George Carlin bit about that.

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Speaker 2: We should play that here on the whole scaring people

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Speaker 2: because of various viruses and stuff.

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Speaker 4: I've got an inside account of the troubled teen industry

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Speaker 4: and oh.

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Speaker 1: Really, okay, so we got to follow ups on all

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Speaker 1: our stories. Look at us, the momentum carrying you forward.

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Speaker 1: That is coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Ghetty turning good morning into good God. We

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Speaker 2: were complaining appropriately.

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Speaker 1: I think that Haunt of virus was the number one

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Speaker 1: story in the country for like two weeks for no

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Speaker 1: good reason. And now that that's over, they're building up

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Speaker 1: po Bola came across this old George Carlin bit.

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Speaker 2: He was a comedian from way back in the day,

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Speaker 2: don't you know, Because.

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Speaker 8: That's what Americans do now. They're always willing to trade

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Speaker 8: away a little of their freedom in exchange for the

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Speaker 8: feeling the illusion of security. What we have now is

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Speaker 8: a completely neurotic population obsessed with security and safety and

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Speaker 8: crime and germs. That's another thing, germs. Where did the

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Speaker 8: sudden fear of germs come from in this country?

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Speaker 2: How do you notice this?

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Speaker 8: The media constantly running stories about all the latest infections Salmonella,

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Speaker 8: E coli, Hanka virus, bird flew and Americans are they

626
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Speaker 8: panic easily. So now everybody's running around scrubbing this, and

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Speaker 8: spraying that, and overcooking their food and re heatedly washing

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Speaker 8: their hands, trying to avoid all contact with germs. It's ridiculous,

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Speaker 8: and it goes to ridiculous links. In prisons, before they

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Speaker 8: give you a lethal injection, they swab your arm with alcohol.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. You know one interesting thing about that.

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Speaker 1: I think about George Carlin, the comedian who's been dead

633
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Speaker 1: for a long time. But he was like you know,

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Speaker 1: he was the hippiest of hippies, and it would have

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Speaker 1: been considered a progressive. I would think he'd be he'd

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Speaker 1: be more like Bill Maher. Now I really have to

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Speaker 1: think so, oh yeah, I can't guarantee the speech police

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Speaker 1: and all that different sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh No.

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Speaker 4: He was militant against dishonesty, for one thing, and so

641
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Speaker 4: much of that stuff is dishonest. So we were talking

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Speaker 4: about the troubled teen industry and an anonymous sources we have, Yes,

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Speaker 4: we have an acquaintance who sent their kid to one

644
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Speaker 4: of those camps.

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Speaker 2: So expensive. Some of them are just in like sending

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Speaker 2: your kid to Harvard expensive. Oh I was going to

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Speaker 2: get there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, first of all, they when you're snatched they call

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Speaker 4: it being gooned because a couple of big goons throws

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Speaker 4: you in a van.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got gooned. Did you get gooned or did

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Speaker 2: you come willingly? I got gooned?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently, And yes, I'm looking at a figure of

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Speaker 4: six figures.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't always bear the great results you were describing.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, nothing's one hundred percent in life.

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Speaker 4: But I think you know folks who are in that situation,

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Speaker 4: the vast majority of them, you would do whatever it

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Speaker 4: took to save the life of your child. And if

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Speaker 4: they're heading down a very very bad road, that's what

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Speaker 4: a lot of folks think they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I know, trying to do I know.

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Speaker 1: A fair amount of the pushback would be, well, they're

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Speaker 1: just doing this sort of disciplinary having rules thing that

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Speaker 1: you haven't been doing all these years, and that's why

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Speaker 1: you got.

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Speaker 2: A GID that's out of control. That's the pushback from

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Speaker 2: a lot of people. Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: In some cases, right, I don't know if you judged,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had kids, but they're all different.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, and some of them are a hell

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Speaker 4: of a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 2: Well, the troubled teen industry. I have to keep my

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Speaker 2: eye on for that. That's funny. George Carlon mentioned Hanta.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long Hant has been on the radar. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was. I found myself wondering when he recorded that bit.

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Speaker 2: Do you know Michael seventies, eighties, nineties, No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You look pretty.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing it struck me as I was listening to

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Speaker 4: that too, that a lot of that stuff is trying

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Speaker 4: to sell you cleaning products, so they frightened you.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's so much like politics.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to frighten you that there's this terrible threat

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Speaker 4: and if we just give them lots of money, they

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Speaker 4: will solve it for us. And a lot of the

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Speaker 4: stuff are it's just it's created and it's.

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Speaker 1: A you know, an imaginary bugaboo, an imaginary boogeyman is

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Speaker 1: hl Man can put it. New York Times SIENA poll

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Speaker 1: out that's a big pole, well sourced, lots of money involved.

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Speaker 1: People in the polling industry really respect that poll. We

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Speaker 1: could go through some of the numbers. Trump's got his

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Speaker 1: lowest approval rating of the second term currently, really not

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Speaker 1: good numbers on and keeping in mind that Obama was

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Speaker 1: in the thirties at one point himself and turned it around.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Trump's going to We live in

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Speaker 1: a slightly different age and Trump is a different person.

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Speaker 1: But AnyWho, the polling on some of the particular issues

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Speaker 1: like Iran, the economy and that sort of thing, Trump

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Speaker 1: definitely way underwater.

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Speaker 2: So maybe we'll get to that to kick off our four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my headline again would be he's underwater on everything.

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Speaker 4: I mean, having interesting hair was not a question they asked.

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Speaker 4: He might have gotten a majority of that.

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Speaker 2: We got to do the Trump phone story in our four.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get to that. Yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: They can't This Trump phone is gonna be a smartphone,

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Speaker 1: gonna be gold. Of course, they pitched it as being

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Speaker 1: made in the USA, has an American flag on it.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people bought them, many millions of dollars. No phones.

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Speaker 1: It's a year later, no phones have shown up.

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Speaker 2: At any point.

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Speaker 1: People had to put down one hundred dollars deposit and

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Speaker 1: nobody got a phone.

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Speaker 2: And so that story they were unhappy with that. Let's

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Speaker 2: start came out over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: So whoever's in charge of the phones with the Trump

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Speaker 1: family announced today no phones are on the way. So uh,

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Speaker 1: funny coincidence that that story broke over the weekend and

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about phones are on the way. They'll be

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Speaker 1: there soon. But you got to look at the contract language.

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Speaker 1: The one hundred dollars deposit you put down does not

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Speaker 1: guarantee you get a phone if you read the fine print.

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Speaker 2: So oh boy, Biden's like, wow, I'm an amateur.

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Speaker 1: That's just shisty, isn't it. Some phones that don't that

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Speaker 1: don't show up for a year.

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Speaker 2: Oh it stinks of scam. Let's be honest. Why though,

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Speaker 2: Why does he need the money? Do they need the money?

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Speaker 1: The same reason for Trump Stakes and Trump coin, the

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Speaker 1: ridiculous meme coin and the what's that the shoes.

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Speaker 4: From Trump University and the rest of it. Stop grifting

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Speaker 4: just to build golf courses or.

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Speaker 1: Just be a billionaire being a billionaires? Good, you're already

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Speaker 1: a billionaire. More help phones to people that don't ever

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Speaker 1: come out If you miss the sect week at the

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Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty