1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: And welcome to the drive. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: it is a blustering There. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Was hailing on the way here and when we were 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: down facility early. Yeah, yeah, the sideways hail. Yeah, it's crazy. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: But we're getting closer and close. Almost a week away, 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: almost a week away. The Steelers having two more visits 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: today running backs. Surprisingly enough, it's been a lot of them, 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: a lot of running backs in I think they might 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: take a running back in this drive. I think they 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: have some interest in the running back position. 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: Yes, tray Von Henderson of Ohio State and RJ. Harvey 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: of Central Florida the visitors today. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I like both. Harvey is a all around good player, 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of a pain them but to play against, hard 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: to tackle sort of the Steelers mold that way in 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: terms of competitive now yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: guess there's a little war into his game too. Also 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: a good zone in a four to fourth combine. I 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: know he can he can scoot too. Like to me, 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: he screams like him and Neil from Kansas, or guys 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: that would often be the third or fourth best back 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: in a class and they're gonna be the eighth best 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: back in the class and you're gonna get them fifth round, 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: fourth round. You know, we're usually they're a third round 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: type guy, where Henderson he might sneak in the end 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: of the first round. I mean, he is a burner, 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: he's really good in protection. He's small ish, but he's 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: stoutly built, one cut and go. Obviously a really good 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: compliment to Judkins. On a national title team, He's to 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: be pretty desirable. I mean in a league that's looking 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: for explosives, he's kind of the poster boy right now. 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm just looking here. 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: According to my little tracker that I've put together, that 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: is nine running. 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Backs of a possible thirty visit that. 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: The Steelers almost a third and they still got a 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: couple more that they can use. So the running backs 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: that they've had in we know am Marion Hampton. Yeah, 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: he's a first round type. 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Say where let's project where these guys would go. I 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: would say he's gonna be top forty at the latest, 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: maybe top twenty. I think Henderson is around two at 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: the latest. Guy I can't believe he gets out of 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: the top fifty. 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got Dylan Samson from Tennessee. He's probably a 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: top three round. 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: I would think this guy, I kind of get think 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: that opinions vary on him because it's such a weird offense. 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes they run against like four man boxes and stuff. 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: It's weird. But he's very explosive. Yeah, Basehall Tuton from 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. I think he kind of counts in that 57 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: fifth round, fourth round. Neighbor supreme tester Olie Gordon from 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. He's a little bit later. He's my least 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: favorite of the guys they've got. I think he's kind 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: of a plot. But what's interesting about him and maybe 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: why you have him in for a visit, is what 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: happened this year, Allie, because a year ago he'd be second, 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: third round, consider a first round guy made right? Right? Yeah, 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: And maybe he's like, well, I had a bad ankle 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: all year and I just wanted to play through it. 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm a team guy, and like, oh okay, Ollie, that's right, 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: you know. Uh. They had Jaden Blue in earlier this 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: week from Texas. Sure Burner. I don't know where he goes. Yeah, 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's a tough one. That's he 70 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: is guy that they've had in It's kind of the 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: sket that when people say, you know, the pick one 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: of the dree Archer or whoever, that's who he is. 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: He's the closest to that. Yeah, I mean, like some 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: of these guys are shorter and thick and like a 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Warren where he's a satellite back, you know what I mean. 76 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: I think he's probably sixth round, but someone might just 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: love the speed and take them a fourth, you know. 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson from Iowa perfect fit. I don't think he 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: gets out of the second round. I don't either. Maybe 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: he's the fifth back taken, but that's still could be 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: late second round and zone teams like the Steelers are 82 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: going to like what he does. I mean, he's one 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: of those guys like you watch his highlight tape and 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, yeah, but you watch five games, 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: You're like, he does the same thing every time. You know, 86 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: he's up with one hundred and eighty. Yeah. Professional back 87 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: R J. 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: Harvey, who he just mentioned again a just a good 89 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: all around back. 90 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fan. I think he's a little older. 91 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't care about that. Running back, you're probably get 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: one right, right, So really, Jayalen Warren was older too, 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: because Jayalen Warren is the same age as. 94 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: Not he just came into the league a year later. Uh, 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: I think that's it. So Giddings, I say. 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we mentioned DJ Giddens from k State 97 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: is the other one. Also, great tester, kind of a slasher. 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: He's a little taller and runs a little higher than 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: like Bell. Yeah, that's a good competive time by the 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: time he was down twenty five and maybe Giddings even 101 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: puts on five or ten of muscle too. Mixed feelings 102 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: on him, but there are certainly some people in his corner. 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah he's fast and yeah. Yeah his footwork at the 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: combine was like, yeah, it's impressive. Yeah, and he can 105 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: go too. Yeah. So I mean it's a good group. 106 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: It's a good group, and they've they've really canvassed a 107 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: lot of different areas in a draft. Absolutely with these guys. 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean Hampton might be gone, I think everyone else 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: will be there at twenty one. I must suggest that 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: they'll take any of those guys at twenty one Hampton aside. 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: But some of those dudes aren't going to be around 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: for the third round, that's for sure. They didn't bring 113 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: Judkins in though, huh, they did not, but they weren't 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: at the Ohio State Pro Day. True, Okay, so they 115 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: may know. I'm trying to think of the top backs 116 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: who has not been in Martinez and the other they're 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: not the top guys Gadibo Martinez and Neil or the 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of ones. It's almost like the list of who 119 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: isn't is greater than who has been. Yeah, they were 120 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: smaller than who has been in there. At quarterback, they've 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: had four guys in Tyler Shuck. That was early. It 122 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: was early. 123 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: Then you had Jackson Dart, Shador Sanders, and then this 124 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: week calm accord from Syracuse. 125 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Okay, they've definitely done a lot of homework on those guys. 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: They've also been in a lot of the pro days. 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: For some of those guys, they took dinner. Yeah. Yeah, 128 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: so they've been in close contact with all those. 129 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: Dude, but not as many of the quarterbacks as the 130 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: running backs for sure. 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: No, of course, I mean running backs is I mean, 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a third of their visit. It's 133 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: you might as well put we are taking a running 134 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: back and just put it out on the front of 135 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: the building, which isn't even worth hiding in this now, 136 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: it's not really you could tell the whole planet and 137 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: still get one, you know, and be happy about it. 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: Wide receivers, they've only brought in four. I don't know 139 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: what the plan is there. They brought in both Ohio 140 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: I Aloway stay guys, Jalen Knowl and Jayden and Higgins 141 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: both are second third round type guys. Yeah, I mean, 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: they're not gonna come cheap. Save On Williams was an 143 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: early early visit. I wonder if they're just trying to 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: figure out he's doing with them, and maybe he even 145 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: could be in the running back category, you know, or 146 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: just kind of tall for that, but he's a quarterial Patterson, 147 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: That's who he is. And then Matthew Golden from Texas. 148 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: So Higgins and Golden are probably top forty guys. I 149 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: mean Golden for sure. Knowle's a little smaller. I mean, 150 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: maybe falls the third round, but I'd be shocked if 151 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: he's there for the Steelers third round pick. Yeah, I mean, 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: I think that's more trade down or consider moving Pickens 153 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: is the only way that you really end up with 154 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: any of those guys. 155 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of defensive linemen. Yeah, JJ Pegee from 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: Ole Miss No's but an active one, you know, right, Yeah, 157 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: I mean it gets gold line carries and. 158 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yaha, Black from Iowa not as active, but 159 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Jaie Glen just a huge, huge human being tested really 160 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: well to combine. Derek Harmon, Yeah, that's first round type dude. Yeah. 161 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Last week it was Jared Harrison Hunt from SMU, right right, 162 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: more of a maybe a fifth round type guy. Yeah, 163 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: he'd be later. Yeah. I wonder if they had a 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: medical concern or something question they wanted answered. Josh Farmer 165 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: from Florida State. We're both pretty good fans there. I mean, 166 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: if he's still there in the third round, you have 167 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: to strongly consider that. Elijah Roberts from SMU. He's more 168 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: of an end turned bump inside you hope. And yeah, traits, 169 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: I got a report somebody texted me privately and messaged 170 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: me that Darius Alexander is coming in or has already 171 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: been in. There's some okay, so he maybe in later 172 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: this week. 173 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see when that happens, but they know 174 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: all about the mac guys. 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he'd be a good fit too, though, I 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: mean he would not. He's a Day two pick all 177 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: day long, Round two probably all day long. Jamari Calbwell 178 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: from Oregon. Okay, the nose tackle another nose kind of 179 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: like piggyas. I mean, he's active, you know, nose tackle 180 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: body for four, five, six, seven, eight, eight D line 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: d lineman. Nine running backs. Wow, eats up your thirty 182 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: pretty quick. Yeah. Edge rusher Schamar Stewart was in last week. 183 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: There's two of them I think are smoke screens and 184 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: one him and any Maari. Yeah mmr. They're both potential 185 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: first round draft picks. But you're maybe trying to get somebody. Yeah. Oh, 186 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers brought him in. Maybe they'll take him. Maybe 187 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: we need to make a move or whatever. Yeah, Nick 188 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: m u or the safety. And then three cornerbacks, Azeri A. 189 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: Thomas in Florida State, which at this point where he ran, 190 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: you consider him the third, but I think I don't 191 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: think any earlier than that. Trey Amos from Ole miss 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: that's a higher pick. Yeah, I mean that's a top 193 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: forty probably pick. And then Justin Wally from Minnesota. It's 194 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of an odd one to bring in, but he's 195 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: a mid to late sleeper type. There aren't many sleepers. 196 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: That aren't many people talking about that. Maybe one the coaches, 197 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, the defensive back coaches just said, you know what, 198 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: we liked this guy. We didn't get a chance to 199 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: talk to him at the combine, right right, he kind 200 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: of flew under the radar a little bit or whatever, 201 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: and like, man, he's better than we thought. Let's let's 202 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: get a take a look at him. So that's the list. 203 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: And again, I think if you really start to there's 204 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: certainly interested in running back, in defensive tackle or defensive lineman, 205 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: however you want to call whatever you want to call that. 206 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I know they brought Wyatt Milliman from w a local visit. 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: He's a local, but at least he's a he's not 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: a throw what he's not the kicker from Pitt You. 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: I mean, like those guys get drafted reasonably high. I'm 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: a little shocked there's no O line conversations. Well there's conversations, 211 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: but there's no visits. I guess. Other than that, though 212 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: those are the positions you would you would think, Yeah, sure, yeah, 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just look at the list and I say, okay, 214 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: we've done locked drafts. After mocked. You're definitely taking a 215 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: running back. You're definitely taking D line D line. And 216 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: it may be two picks on the D line. It 217 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: could be two picks of running back. It could if 218 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: there's wait a little bit right. But then you look 219 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: at the four visits at quarterback, the four visits at 220 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver, the three visits at cornerback, and those those 221 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: are kind of like ancillary needs, And I wonder what's 222 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: the logic behind those specific players being the ones you pick? 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Why Golden and the two Iowa State guys as opposed 224 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: to Burden or you know whoever that's in the same range. 225 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: Is it just, man, we really want to spend time 226 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: with them on the whiteboard? Do we want to you know, 227 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: how you used or is there something off the field? 228 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Do you want to get cleared up or you're a 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: chance to really really like them. You ran out of 230 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: visits at the combine. Yeah, there's only so much time. 231 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: They weren't at the Senior Bowl and you didn't get 232 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: to talk to them there, and so you know, you 233 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 3: take care of that part of it. Just again, join 234 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: your homework on these guys. 235 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Goldon might be a little bit of a smoke streing too, 236 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: like you did with DK me I mean, they didn't 237 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: draft DK Metcalf obviously, sure, but a few years later 238 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: you're interested in DK Metcalf because you did all your 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: homework on DK Metcalf leading into the draft process that year, 240 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: right right, And then you said, well, now you've got 241 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: all this information on him as a pro, and you say, well, 242 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: we liked him as a person. I mean because on 243 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: the draft process, most of the players you really really 244 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: like don't end up on your team, you know, seven 245 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: do Yeah, at most basically yeah, And it's really typically 246 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: not that. 247 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: And we'll look we'll look back in the next segment 248 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: at the last three years, three or four years of 249 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: draft visits. 250 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Ok, and I the last year was heavy. 251 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: You can kind of figure out where this stuff goes. 252 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: What's the smoke screen, what's not a smoke screen. And 253 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: they do like to I think they like to vary it. 254 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: I think they like to change it up every once 255 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: in a while, just to I think everybody's trying to. 256 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: Everybody's centering in on what we're going to do here. 257 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Now we're going to do this instead. 258 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you are, and Stuart screamed that you know 259 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: that's yeah. You can make the argument that, hey, this 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: guy's a safety, you can do it all. We like them, 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, we we're exsited about him, or Stuart's an 262 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: amazing athlete as well, but we're going to know how 263 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: well both of them know football, and maybe we could 264 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: kick him in as a three four or end or 265 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: he could be slot. Yeah, right, right right. I mean 266 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: you could certainly make a case for why you'd want 267 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: the dudes, but deep down, are you really going to 268 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: take them at where you'd have to over Walter Nolan 269 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: or you know, somebody like that, or Harman or somebody 270 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: like that. I have my doubts. I also wonder quarterbacks 271 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: you might be eliminating in a way, you know, like 272 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: really like them. Didn't love them? I want to love them. 273 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: And I wonder if there's any spokescreens going on with 274 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks too, you know, potentially you know, you're crazy 275 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: if you don't do all the homework on those guys, 276 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: right you have to. 277 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's obviously they're not bringing in 278 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: the top top guys at some of these visions they 279 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: didn't bring in. You know, Graham didn't come in at 280 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: defensive tackle, right right right? You don't think he fits? 281 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: You didn't you know, you didn't bring in. 282 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm a little shocked Nolan hasn't been in a little bit. 283 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: But again he maybe it may be a situation where 284 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: just because people talk about it in the field and 285 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: all that, yeah, you just couldn't make They and Grant 286 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: another one I thought might be in. But maybe those 287 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: are the part of me thinks Grant, Nolan and Milroe 288 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: are guys they really like and didn't bring in on purpose. 289 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: You know, I don't mean maybe unless you give somebody 290 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: truth here, Yeah, own up to it. 291 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Like I got enough information on these dudes. I'm not 292 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna quite tip my hand and show. Yeah. So let's 293 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: get a look a look at the history here the 294 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: last few years of what they've brought in for their 295 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: pre draft bhysics. We'll do that when we return. He 296 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. 297 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio here 298 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. 299 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. 300 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 301 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 302 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation. 303 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: Radio, and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is 304 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: the Matti Samson and we're. 305 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Going to go back and look at the Steelers' free 306 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: draft visits here over the last few years. 307 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: And some of these are a little different because some 308 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: of it was during COVID. 309 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh right, right, right. You had to do them virtually, Yeah, 310 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: you had to. Some of the report him to the 311 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: NFL and he might do x amount, but they didn't 312 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: actually visit the building. And some were pro day visits 313 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: that you could actually do at that time because some 314 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: schools had their pro days, others canceled the pro days. 315 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: It was a weird time. Yeah, it was just a strange, 316 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: strange time. 317 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: But going back to twenty twenty one, they met with 318 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: UH did a virtual with Michael Parsons. Okay, they did 319 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: a virtual with Jalen Phillips, the edge rusher out of 320 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: Miami quitd he pay the edge rusher out the topics, right, 321 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech. 322 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: I could see that. I mean he had a lot 323 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: of injury stuff, and you know, Christian Darra saw the 324 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: offensive tackle from Virginia Tech. Okay, these are good players. 325 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Travel us at In the running back from Clemson. Makes 326 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: sense to end up taking nausea that year. 327 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: Eric Stokes, the cornerback from Georgia. First round picks, o'daffe 328 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: O Way from Penn State, the edge Russer. 329 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Well, these are all first round picks. Tyson Campbell, the 330 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: cornerback from Georgia. Elijah Moore the wide receiver from Ole, 331 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: miss Okay. I think he's still out there. Somebody signed him. 332 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm not sure that. I almost didn't say it. 333 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: Liam Eikenberg the offensive tackle from Notre Dame. He was 334 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: a second. That's kind of busted. Trayvon Mowrigg, safety from TCU. 335 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Not a huge theme here, I mean except for high picks. Yeah. 336 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Assante Samuel Junior, the cornerback from Florida State. He might 337 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: still be out there. I thought he signed somewhere. I'm 338 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: not sure. Maybe I don't know. Aziz Ojulari, edge rusher 339 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: from Georgia. Again early second. 340 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Owosu Cormoa from Notre Dame ended up playing against him. 341 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Pat Friarmouth from Penn State. Nick Bolton, linebacker from Missouri. 342 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: Second round pick of really good players. Jalen Mayfield, offensive 343 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: tackle from Michigan. He was a later one. 344 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Baron Browning, the linebacker from Ohio State. 345 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: They're also at the Alabama Pro Day and met with 346 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: Alex Leatherwood. I think they took these guys at dinner, 347 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: Nachie Harris, Landon Dickerson. 348 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and obviously it took nausea. So you got 349 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: two of those guys, but as you nade, they aimed. Yeah, 350 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: this was a fifth rounder out of that group. 351 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: I think because of the way that year worked out 352 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: with the virtual stuff. Everything was virtual. You don't want 353 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: to waste your time because you weren't going to have 354 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: the pro as many pro days. 355 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and. 356 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: So hey, we're just going to take what we what 357 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: we know we can get here in his first two 358 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: rounds and then after that we'll just kind. 359 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Of maybe that's kind of just a weird group. It's 360 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: a weird year. Yeah, but those were all high picks. 361 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: The following year, remember this was a heavy quarterback here. 362 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: They met with Kyle Are. They brought in Kyle Hamilton 363 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: safety had a Notre Dame. Kenny Pickett, quarterback from Pittt 364 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: local though. Yeah. Kway Walker from Georgia. They were at 365 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: they went to dinner with him and his pro day. 366 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter from Cincinnati the quarterback. Yeah, you're doing quarterback research. 367 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones cornerback from Houston. Okay, there's some off the 368 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: field you want probably want to gi up there, h 369 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, Matt Carral, Sam Howell. Yeah, yeah they are 370 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: all THEO got quarterbacks, right. Eric Johnson defensive lineman from 371 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: Missouri State. No, what his story is. I don't remember 372 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: where he even got drafted. Kyron Johnson, d rusher out 373 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: of Kansas. And there's some later guys then Mark Robinson 374 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: linebacker from Ole, miss Interesting. Chris Alaticon quarterback from South 375 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: Dakota State. H Carson Strong quarterback from Nevada. Yeah, I 376 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: forget about him. And he was a big, strong pocket 377 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: passer type. They brought in Joey Blunt, a safety from 378 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Virginia he went undrafted, James Skalsky linebacker from Clemson undrafted, 379 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: and Nolan Turner safety from Clemson. Wow, there's five or 380 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: six names there. I don't know who they are. 381 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty three, this one really hits like guys 382 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: they brought in they brought it ends up being yeah, yeah, 383 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: so Christian Gonzalez, cornerback out of Oregon. 384 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: I got admit whenever they that the card was in 385 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: for the trade out. And this when they end up 386 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: with Roderick Jones. It was, like I said, Jones or Gonzalez, 387 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: I really was fifty to fifty right down the middle 388 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: on that. 389 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 3: But they also brought brought in Darnell Right the offensive 390 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: tackle from Tennessee. 391 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that adds up. He was off the board by then. 392 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they took Broderick Jones to dinner at his pro day. 393 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: Deontay Banks cornerback from. 394 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: Maryland, the first round corner of like Gonzales, Anton Harrison, 395 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: offensive tap from Oklahoma, first on tackles and corners. 396 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Brian Bress, defensive lineman from Clemson. 397 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: We took him two or three times in a mock. Yeah. Yeah. 398 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Felix and duque Iszoma ed rusher out of k State 399 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: late late first. Joey Porter junior, that's a local visit 400 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: still but still two years picks right. Steve Avilla, the 401 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: guard from TCU, Okay, good players. Johnny Mingo, wide receiver 402 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: from Ole Miss. He walked into Pittsburgh. Julius Brent's cornerback 403 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: from k State. Could I understand that he's kind of 404 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: a porter body type. Keon White defensive lineman from Georgia Tech. 405 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: He's been quite good. 406 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: Cody Match offensive lineman from North Dakota State. Okay, Kean 407 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: U Benton defensive lineman from Wisconsin. So the first three 408 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: picks were all guys that they brought. 409 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: In, and most of those dudes were brand name guys. 410 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: They weren't seventh I means undrafted. Yeah, right? Uh? 411 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: Jaye Read the wide receiver from Michigan State. Tully two, 412 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: a polo two ed rusher from USC. 413 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Tyreek. Stevenson cornerback from Miami. A lot of second round 414 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: type guys there. 415 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: John Michael Schmidt's center from Minnesota. Osyrus Torrance guard from Florida. 416 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: A lot of second rounders. 417 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman, wide receiver Tennessee. I'm still a fan of 418 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: ha Darnell Washington, tight end from Georgia. Remember we walked 419 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: by him walking by. It was hard to miss. 420 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Sika Ika defensive lineman from Baylor. Big nose 421 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: end up going to the Browns. 422 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: Chandler Zavalla guard from NC State. Okay, Charlie Jones, wide 423 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: receiver from Purdue. 424 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember his mid round pick, Darius Rush, cornerback 425 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina. I didn't draft them, but it wasn't after Yeah, 426 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: and give me to him for free. We'll take you. 427 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: Clayton too, where he is now? Yeah, he's he? 428 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: Uh they released him last year to try to remember that, 429 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: and somebody else signed him. 430 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 431 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Clayton Tune quarterback Houston, late pick Daniel Scott safety 432 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: at a cal Jerron Hall quarterback from b YU or 433 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: Jared Haugas Carl Brooks, a defensive lineman from Bowling Green. 434 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we liked him. 435 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tanner Ingle safety at a NC State, Bryce Ford Wheaton, 436 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: wide receiver from West Virginia. They ended up, I believe, 437 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: signing him as a UDFA. 438 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: He may have been a local. Yeah, he was West 439 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Virginia's local. 440 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 3: And then they also had dinner with Robert Beale ed 441 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: rusher out of Georgia mhm. 442 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: But they ended up with several Yeah. Last year, this 443 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: one's crazy. Uh. Tulasi Fuaga he was off the boarding, 444 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Morgan Stadium. Who knows who they 445 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: were take and if they both were available Troyano first 446 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: round pick, first round pick Cooper Dejene, cornerback out of Iowa. 447 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they liked them a lot. Yeah, you can't 448 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: have everything. Nate Wiggins cornerback from Clemson, Okay and playing 449 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: against him twice a year. 450 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 3: Amarius Mims, offensive tackle from close By. A d Mitchell 451 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: wide receiver from Texas. 452 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. When they were on the clock in 453 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: the second round, they took Fraser. Fraser would have been 454 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: my pick at that minute, but if not, it would 455 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: have been Mitchell. Graham Barton, offensive lineman from Duke. Rumor 456 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: has it they were very high on him. Obviously they 457 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: preferred for a tu but they were really high on Barton. 458 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Jackson Powers Johnson center from Oregon. Yeah, there were three 459 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: centers that looked like starters and more turned into starters. 460 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: But they hit Alboll Tyler Geiton, offensive tackle from Oklahoma. 461 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: I think they were going to rebuild the line. Yeah, 462 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: you see a trend there. 463 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson defensive lineman from Missouri, that first round pick, 464 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: Brayden Fiske, defensive tackle from Florida State had a great year. 465 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson State, Ricky Pearsall w receiver, Florida. 466 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty high first round. 467 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach Frasier center from West Virginia. So there's three guys, 468 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: three picks, right, Yeah, three guys they brought in. 469 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Was Roman ahead of Peyton Wilson, I can't remember. I 470 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: believe it was Peyton Wilson, then Rome. I can't remember 471 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: what order they got to Wilson's Uh. Xavier Lagette wide receiver, 472 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: South definitely receiver market. Max Melton cornerback from Rutgers. We 473 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: liked him a lot too, so do Malachai Corley, wide receiver, 474 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. There's some trends there. Massan Smith defensive lineman 475 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Michigan end up going to jackson Y, Yeah, Jackson Blake 476 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Fisher offensive tackle Notre Dame. If you would have got 477 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: shut out in round one, you'd have been a nice, 478 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: nice fallback. Yeah. Andrew Phillips cornerback Kentucky had a good year. Yeah. 479 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: Mason McCormick, offensive lineman in South Dakota State. 480 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: It's pretty high percentage. Yeah. Uh. Matt Gonclave's from pitt 481 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: That was a local visit. Yeah, but he's looks like 482 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: he's go become a starter now for this Colts Luke McCaffrey, 483 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Rice, Christian Boy defensive tackle from Northern Iowa. 484 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I'm not sure what really happened. Yeah, 485 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Hunter Norzad center from Penn State. That's 486 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: a local visit. Taj Washington wide receiver USC MJ. Devonshire 487 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: from pitt That was cornerback. That's a local visit. Jalenkreudi Kremetti, 488 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: I should say, defensive lineman from Mississippi State. I don't 489 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: remember him. 490 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: Logan Lee lineman from Iowa. Travis Glover offensive tackle from 491 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: Georgia State, Daykwon Hardy. Uh, that's a local visit from 492 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: Penn State. Cornerback Beanie Bishop. Yeah, yeah, from West Virginia. 493 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: It's a freebie. 494 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: They ended up signing him. Uh and Stephen Jones offensive 495 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: lineman from Oregon. 496 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: They've taken a couple of different approaches, Yeah, in terms 497 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: of how it's heavy, Yeah, some years not so much. 498 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of top fifty type guys, so 499 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to have five of them that you 500 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: know you draft, of course, and then this one was 501 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: pretty spread out and ended up with a high high 502 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: percentage of them and. 503 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, knowing that you had the three 504 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 3: picks in the top fifty two or whatever it was, 505 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: it makes sense to hammer those early. 506 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: Years, those early guys and still end up with them. Yeah, 507 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, and they did. I mean it was top three. 508 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: We're all in. Yeah, and then you know, if you 509 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: look at what they've done this year, I'm not sure 510 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: how that will add up the same. I don't know 511 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: if you can get to the same percentage. He definitely 512 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: could get a back. It leads me. 513 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: I mean just looking at Okay, you got some first 514 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: round guys in there, but then you've got a bunch 515 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: of second slash third round guys, and it makes me 516 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: believe they really want to trade back or I was 517 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 3: going to acquire something in the second round or in 518 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: that early third round. It makes me because there's a 519 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: lot of these visits because they've known for quite a 520 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 3: while now, yeah, yeah, that they have they don't have 521 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: that second round pick. 522 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: And maybe they don't agree with us, but if they 523 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: do and think the tackle is probably our first pick. 524 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: But if we trade back pretty heavy and don't, then 525 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: there's Hampton or Golden or Mum or Steward or somebody 526 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: like that, would we be comfortable doing it? And now 527 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: they have a better answer yes or no? 528 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just again building that twenty one that Okay, 529 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: those guys are gone because the edge russ the first 530 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: round of edge rushers. 531 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: No, right, right, right, they're not gonna take one of those. Yeah, 532 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: they're not their tight end you mentioned no offensive lineman, 533 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: no offensive lineman. Right, okay, so they're not doing that, 534 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: none of the tight ends. So maybe they'll be interested 535 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: in Simmons just to see, you know, conditionings in or whatever. 536 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: You know. 537 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can almost scratch those three off the 538 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: board if if you're building your twenty one. And we'll 539 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: yeah that again towards the end of the week or 540 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: maybe early next week. And I would think a corner 541 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: would Amos be in the twenty one? 542 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: Maybe if you stretched it, if you have to stretch it, 543 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: you'd have to stretch it for at least the way 544 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: we see him, I can't imagine them taking him at 545 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: twenty one. Would they take him at thirty if they 546 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: had a wealth of other picks? 547 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, maybe that's that's what you're looking to build 548 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: out there, you know, some of these other you know, 549 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: would you you know, we included Darius Alexander in our 550 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: twenty one. 551 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you traded back then that we were 552 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: real heavy on d tackles in twenty one, you know, 553 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: but you might get him at forty eight. Yeah, you know. 554 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: So when we rebuild our twenty one, the question I 555 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: need to ask, then, do we even put any offensive 556 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: lineman or the tight ends or any of those positions 557 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: on that? 558 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: I probably yes, But there's also so many there's only 559 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: thirty visits, so you're going to bring in Membo and 560 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: Campbell and war and when you know they're not going 561 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: to be there, you know, yeah, you'd take them, but 562 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: you're never going to have that contemplation. But this draft 563 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: is so different, it's weird. It's a weird one just 564 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: because of the lack of high end, really high end talent. 565 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: And exercise we could do is just pick three or 566 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: four positions and build a top twenty board out of 567 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: that or whatever. You know, if you just eliminate all 568 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: the edge, all the tight end, all the O line 569 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: and say who would you be comfortable taking in the 570 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: top fifty, you know, something like that, which you know, 571 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: if Warren's happened to be sitting there at twenty one. Okay, 572 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: we'll take him, but he won't be you know right. 573 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking back, like if you're looking at 574 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: the big boards from last year, for example, would Caleb 575 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: Williams still be the number one overall pick? 576 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: Yes, what do you mean, knowing what we know now? 577 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: Not knowing no, at the time, he Caleb Williams is 578 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: considered a better prospect, I think than anybody that's in 579 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: this draft. 580 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a quarterback, I would think, so consensus, you know, 581 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe some people like other you know, yeah, I agree. 582 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: Uh, looking at I'm looking at profile all focuses rankings 583 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: from last year. A year ago, they had Marvin Harrison 584 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: junior number two, Marvin Harrison junior versus Travis Hunter. 585 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: Is he that's a converse that's Hunter is so weird? Yeah, 586 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: because he's also the cornerback. But Harrison, he's much better 587 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: than make Mille. Harrison would be up here compared to 588 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, these other receivers in this draft. I mean, 589 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: looking at last year's class, there's so many that would 590 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: be would eliminate the guys in our twenty one. Yeah, 591 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's there's a ton of them if we 592 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: build it, and no, this isn't what we're doing. But 593 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: if you build a board with last year's draft doll 594 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: players and this year's draft will players and you get 595 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: twenty one of them, not many would be from this year. 596 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: That's why I'm going through this little Yeah, knowing what 597 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: we know now, I don't want to talk about their 598 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: rookie year. You know what, right, they had Drake May 599 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: at three. He's a better prospect than any of the quarterbacks. Yeah, 600 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: Molik Neighbors, way better than any Let's just take Hunter 601 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: out of the equation. It's not even talk about him anymore. 602 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: But Neighbors is way better than all the receivers. 603 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: Joe All would be easily the number one the real 604 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: tax offensive tax right easily Rome with Dounez still better 605 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: than any number one receivers, Rock Bowers versus literally. 606 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Tight end one but one conversations conversation, but he would 607 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: still go first to the group. You know, he was 608 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: pretty rare college player. 609 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: They had Cooper Degene number eight on their list, by 610 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: the way, good for them, Yeah, I mean there was 611 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: a lot of ambiguity with the corners. 612 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: They also had Qua Mitchell number nine. Okay, so he 613 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: had eight and nine right next to each other and 614 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: would take both those guys over Will Johnson. Yeah, you know, 615 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean just what we thought of them then, not 616 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: that they even had great years or even Johnny like 617 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: Cooper Dejeene versus Johnny Barron, because I would look at 618 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: the Degene. Yeah, I would do it's bigger. Uh. 619 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: This is this is where layout too late to. They 620 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: had a ten. There's some edge rushers in this draft on. 621 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: The edges, and the edges better this year. Yeah, I 622 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: mean the edges better, but that doesn't affect the Steelers, 623 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: but the edge is definitely better this year. They have 624 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: jerse On Newton at number eleven at defensive tackle. Okay, 625 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: that's a little bit odd. I mean he also had 626 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: a foot issue. Yeah, and Bier Murphy right now, Murphy. 627 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: I was trying to think who the other one, So 628 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: Newton and Murphy for the Steelers. I would rather have 629 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: Harmon Grant Nolan. Yeah. I think those guys are kind 630 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: of more like like Graham, No, more like Graham. Yeah, 631 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: they're a little shorter and upfield guys to Lasi Fluaga, right, 632 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean I'm taking Fluago over Membo and in Campbell, 633 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: all of them, he'd be the number one tackle in 634 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: this draft. I agree Terry and Arnold. They had a 635 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: fourteen a cornerback out of Alabama. I didn't love him 636 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: at the time. I mean, now we're getting into a conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed, 637 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Like I might rather have Will Johnson maybe maybe. Yeah, 638 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: Troy Faltanu, he's right there with he would be the 639 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: best offensive tackle in this draft. Yeah. Dallas Turner, the 640 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: EDG rusher out of Alabama. We already talking about the 641 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: edge rush. Uh Olu Forshanu, the tackle out of Penn State. 642 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: He still is too, I mean yeah, a little bit 643 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: smaller hands, but I mean he still was a tackle 644 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: all day long. J C. Latham out of Alabama. Yeah, 645 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean I would he was my number two tackle. Yeah. 646 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: Mims is at twenty like he's now You're probably may 647 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: be getting it because he'd only started like fifteen. 648 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were college concerns and questions, but yeah, he's 649 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: a tackle all day long. Yeah, I mean size wise, 650 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: they had Jade and Daniels all the way down at 651 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: twenty one. Okay, we would have taken that person a 652 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: year ago. Daniels would take an over ward. I There 653 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: were a lot right up until the end, I had 654 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels ahead of Caleb Williams. He was my number. 655 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: Month was one. I had right against Williams. Two. 656 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Donnie Mitchell, we were fans. 657 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think a year ago, if you rewind 658 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: I found a drive, you'd say, would take that Mitchell 659 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: version over or Will Johnson. Probably Graham Barton. 660 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: Now he got moved to center, but he's better than 661 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: any center prospect in this draft. 662 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean the interior line conversation if it's ridiculous without 663 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: even narrowing it down to center, Powers Johnson, Fraser Barton, 664 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: they're going over all the center. Yeah, times to thousand. Uh. 665 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, I think he would be ahead of 666 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Ted McMillan two. I think. So he's faster. I mean 667 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: I remember he's the same size and has the same 668 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: like ability to adjustify, but he's faster. Yeah, like big 669 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: And that's just stop because he had a great rookie year. 670 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: Because I remember being on the air, just like the 671 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: Fraser conversation that when the Steelers were on the clock 672 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: in the first round, I'm like, oh yeah, great Filetana. 673 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: But Brian Thomas, I remember people saying, well, who would 674 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: be your second choice. I'm like, Brian Thomas were Quinny Mitchell, 675 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: yeah he would. He was actually third. They actually remember 676 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: three really like if they'd have gone any of those directions, 677 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: I've been like, oh, I get it, you know. I 678 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: said in the second round, it was, well, if it's 679 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: not Fraser matt who you like? My god, Donnie Mitchell, Yeah, right. 680 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins at a Clemson he was a little thinner, 681 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: little thinner, but he'd be he'd go earlier in this 682 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: draft than he did that draft. Yeah, he wouldn't have 683 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: lasted the twenty eight or twenty nine. Yeah, man corner 684 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: that can run length. JJ McCarthy to me, I would 685 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: probably would take Ward. I would take Ward over McCarthy's 686 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: That's where I slotted Ward is after the big three. 687 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had Peyton Wilson at number thirty. Good for them, 688 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: good for them, and good for the Steelers. Tyler Nuban 689 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: to safety. I don't think he's. 690 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: As good a prospect as the two top two safety 691 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: now in this draft, just looking through her from this 692 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Nick's Pennix were thirty five and thirty six in that list, 693 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: and I would take Ward over both those guys. 694 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: But that's that's you know, that's where we're at here. 695 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: We're down into the forties and yeah, they had Roam 696 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: Wilson at forty two by the way, too, Just you 697 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: don't have the spending power in this draft that you 698 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: had in previous last year's draft, for sure. 699 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean we knew last year's draft was rich obviously, 700 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: with tackles, receivers, and quarterbacks, all which would have interested 701 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: Steelers and made sense. But I don't think we even 702 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: at the time, how would we have a crystal ball 703 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: that our top twenty at the time. They picked twenty 704 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: last year, right, yeah, was awesome, you know what I mean, 705 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Like we had twenty. It was like this year was like, man, 706 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: how do we get to twenty one? Should we bring 707 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: in Alexander or another? And we're last year we're cutting 708 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: like bone. I mean, Cooper dejan was on our twenty, 709 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: our top twenty list last year. Yeah, Like I'm not 710 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: even sure if like Arnold made it, yeah you know 711 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he easily would have this year. 712 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah easily. Yeah. Let alone, like Brian Thomas just a 713 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: dude's a's and right, you know, it's just not probably 714 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: Maconkie in our top twenty. We loved him too, Yeah, 715 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure we did so we were right. Yeah, it's 716 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: just a different draft and a different again. I just 717 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: don't think you're not getting the bang for your buck 718 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: this year in the top ten. No, I I'm not 719 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: sure if'd inclue number four in this but definitely five 720 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: through twelve. It's water down. Yeah, you know, those guys 721 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: are usually the twentieth pick. It seems like we're always 722 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: picking on Mason Graham, but I don't know if he 723 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: goes in the top ten this year. I don't think 724 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: Campbell goes in the top ten, Membo might. I mean, 725 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: he's so athletic and at least he's definitely a tackle 726 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: for now, but he's not the prototype. He's not six six, Yeah, 727 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: would Warren probably not? I mean not with Bowers, you know, 728 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean that draft. I mean, how 729 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: many guys this year would be top ten picks last year? 730 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: That's kind of when we went through that, I know, 731 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, not many, not many at all, right, I 732 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: mean it's maybe might be it might be, and the 733 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: a couple of the edge rushers, yeah, and Ward might 734 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: be the fourth quarterback or fifth. But last year's edge 735 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: Rusher group was just it wasn't good. Carter's better than 736 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: all those. Yeah. Yeah, he'd gone high just because of 737 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: premium position, right, so that's crazy. 738 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 739 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 740 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back with more 741 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: right after this. 742 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 743 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 744 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 745 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the 746 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. And news came out this morning that the 747 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins and Jalen Ramsey have agreed to let him 748 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: seek a trade. 749 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: They're a team in flux. I mean Tyreek Hill name 750 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: keeps coming up and keeps coming. I'm not considering trading him, 751 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: but they can't consider trading him right now because he 752 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: just got in trouble last week. Yeah right, like you 753 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: would be selling for pennies on the dollars at this point, 754 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: I know. And he's coming off of not his great 755 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: year years. He a declining players, he's starting to slow down. 756 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: Armstead retires. You know, these are like the these are 757 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: their corner guys, the guys that went and traded for 758 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: They gave a lot of money when they pushed their 759 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: chips in and it could be dark times, you know, 760 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: like you're paying your quarterback hard time, hard time. I mean, 761 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: you're not gonna tank tank, Yeah, you know, I mean, 762 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: and maybe it's time to cash out and get draft 763 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: picks for those dudes. And your CAP's not in great 764 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: shape and they need both lines of scrimmage and every 765 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: mock draft we talk about, it's like often's could go 766 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot of directions here, and I don't think two 767 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: is an elevator. Yeah, you know, like I think they're 768 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: in a tough situation. They're in. They're in a tough situation. 769 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, who are your building blocks right now? You know? Yeah, 770 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna get You're gonna move on from. And Ramsey's thirty. 771 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: I say, he's been around, you know, and he's making 772 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: you know, if you start looking at the cornerback market numbers, yeah, 773 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, so real quick on him. Yeah, from what 774 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: I I forget who I was listening to a reading 775 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: or whatever. They he kind of implied that he's not 776 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: necessarily unhappy with the Dolphins, but he wants to get 777 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: back to being an outside man to man corner. And 778 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: it's such a weird conversation, and it's a deep conversation 779 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: about the value of slot and Dejene and branch because 780 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: really his Rams time and his Dolphins time, Ramsey's played 781 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage as a big nickel star, 782 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to call it, but it 783 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: beats up your body. And I think he wants to 784 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: be outside playing man coverage against Jamar Chase. But now 785 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: he's thirty, is he going to be as good at that? 786 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: And I never thought he was Reevis to begin with, 787 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: but he was great at at one point. It's kind 788 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: of just an odd career, you know. And that's the orders. 789 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: You see the ring on the wall too, that this 790 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: team's going the wrong direction. That might be it. 791 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: It might be he's you know, he's seeing some of 792 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 3: these younger players surpassing his contract value. 793 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: If you start looking at you know, maybe it's financial 794 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: and the Miami can't give them more money. They're really 795 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: tight agains, you know. I mean, it may not even 796 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: be necessary, like his contract is like fully guaranteed. I'd 797 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: say I think that you're taking on a pretty decent 798 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: contract in trade for. 799 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: His three year ap Y average per year is twenty 800 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 3: four point one million. Well that's been surpassed by Derek 801 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 3: Stingley at thirty million. 802 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. J C. 803 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 3: Horn's making twenty five, and then he's third. Patrick's certain 804 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: is rate after him at twenty four, and then Jay 805 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: R Alexander at twenty one point. 806 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: Eight, who also could be on the move. 807 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 3: The problem is is that position is so up and 808 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: down a year. It's a little it's more volatile maybe 809 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 3: than any other position in the league. 810 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: And this worries me a little about Sleigh. But over 811 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: thirty corners don't have a great history, you know what 812 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean. They don't last till they're thirty eight, unless 813 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: you're Darryl Green, you know what i mean. 814 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 3: Going it depends on what you're asking them to do. 815 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 3: You know, are you asking them to be the number 816 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 3: one guy that they were you know when they were 817 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 3: twenty eight? Were you asking them to be a complimentary piece? 818 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not suggesting this Dealers should trade for Jalen Ramsey. 819 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: I mean they they've I think they've made their big 820 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: corner moves and they're probably pretty settled there. Maybe you'll 821 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: throw a fourth round pick at the at the equation. 822 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: But it's a great example, a boy, what we've talked 823 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: about all along. If right now this was a defensive 824 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: tackle or a position that you needed, you didn't expect 825 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: this guy to be available, and now he is, and 826 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: you're one of the few teams that could easily pull 827 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: this trade off. I mean financially, you know, you could 828 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: send a future pick. I mean, I know you're a 829 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: little light on picks, but you could add this guy 830 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: if you wanted, you know, I mean not every team could, 831 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, and the fully guaranteed money and whoever does 832 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: trade for him, assuming he gets traded, it's not going 833 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: to be for a first round pick like he's been 834 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: traded for in the past, because it's big money and 835 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: an aging corner. Yeah, and that's the position. I mean, 836 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: we had the discussion about TJ. Wish yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, 837 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: cornerback's different than outside linebacker, edge rusher or whatever you 838 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: want to consider it. Yeah. 839 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 3: I mean, you know the same people say who were 840 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: saying last year, you don't pay Cam Hayward. That's the 841 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 3: other part, Like everybody assumed Cam Hayward was asking for 842 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 3: the moon last year. 843 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: That may not be the case with either. Nobody knows, right, 844 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: nobody knows, But in this situation, the Dolphins might be 845 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: just be looking disc going, hey, I think your left 846 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: tackle just retired. That's say, right, it might be really, 847 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to compete this year? Can we get 848 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: something for Jalen Ramsey at this point? That? And I 849 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: think Tyreek's in the exact same situation. 850 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: But they can't trade Tyreek right now because of the 851 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 3: off the field situation. 852 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 1: Which you knew when you got him, and the Chiefs 853 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: us a volatile guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a nice 854 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: way of putting it. I mean, he was not on 855 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: many draft boards and he's not been an angel since 856 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: he's been in the league. But he hasn't been you know, criminal, 857 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, to that regard. But what are those two 858 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: gonna be worth a year from now or even at 859 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: the trade deadline less than now? I mean, unless they're 860 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: having great years. Maybe Tyreek looks phenomenal on tape before 861 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: you know it and looks like the same guy. Maybe, 862 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: And quite cornerbacks just don't affec the game like edge rushers. 863 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: They just don't, right, I'd rather invest in. I mean, 864 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: I can just avoid the cornerback. I don't have to 865 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: throw over there. And I don't think it's Ramsey Island 866 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: at this point. It is not. I think he's a 867 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: really good football player. Frankly, if they added him to 868 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: Steelers second and I'd be like, wow, I mean you're 869 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: loaded now, you know what I mean? But and same 870 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: with any team really, but I'm not giving first one 871 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 1: pick for him. Yeah, he's not. The difference was four 872 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: years ago. No Rams gave up a first. I think 873 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins gave up a first or something similar. He's 874 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: depreciating asset. Yeah, and that's what happens with you go 875 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 1: all in with the dog like the Dolphins approach. Yeah. 876 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: So anyways, I just thought that was interesting too. 877 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 3: Let's get to a break that's going to do it 878 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: for our number one of the drive here on the 879 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with our 880 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: number two right after this