WEBVTT - Lady Hangs with Keltie Knight 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.119 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rent An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.960 We've just started the show and Mark's already on me. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:15.760 I'm not on you as a producer. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.240 You produce, uh huh, So I'm just giving you notes. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.000 We are scrubbing in today. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.520 Becca is we are sons, Becca, she is Sanzi. She 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.400 is on vacation. But we're holding down the fort. Don't 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.360 you worry. I've got Mark and Easton and Hannah here 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.360 and I'm very excited for the show today. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.720 As are we. And Kelty's always so fun. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.400 She is always so fun, and she is somebody that 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.360 I really admire in the industry because she really does 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.400 so much, like you know how everybody says, like, you 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.199 know and you have like a job, like when you 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.159 check a box at the doctor's office and they say, like, 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.800 what do you do professionally? She could never check a 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.600 box because she does so many things, and she keeps 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.080 doing more and more things. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.320 What do you put in that box? 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.199 I put radio host? I think, oh yeah, yeah, I'm. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.000 A radio producer. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.759 Yeah nice, yeah, yeahs We're just so one dimensional. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.880 Kelty is not that no, And so she has a 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.320 new show coming out and I was like, you know what, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.320 you gotta come on scrubbing in and promote the new 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.320 show because we just love everything about Kelty. She is 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.240 an award winning TV personality. She's from Canada, so we 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.480 love our Canadians. Her credits include CBS's Entertainment Tonight, the 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.840 Thanksgiving Day Parade on CBS, She's done the Grammys, Red 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.920 Carpet Live, and she's currently the chief correspondent for E News. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.040 She is a New York Times best selling author Something 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.720 That I Am Not, and her podcast Lady Gang is 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:48.000 just getting so many impressive downloads worldwide. She is the creator, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.320 executive producer, and co host of the new CBS primetime 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:56.559 series Superfan. Please let's give a warm welcome to Kelty Night. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.640 Yay me, Kelty Knight is here. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.480 My god, it's so good to see in person. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.440 It has been I think since you and Becca beat 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.200 us at the People of Choice Awards for Top Podcasts. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:10.679 Since I've seen you in person. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:15.120 Twenty eighteen or nineteen. We won like a bunch of years. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.839 I don't know, didn't you win it, like for four 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:18.680 years in a row or. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.360 Some two years in a row, two years in a row. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.639 Year. So good to see you friends. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.240 It's good to see you too. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.640 I was really excited to have you on because you know, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.840 I'm just like such a fan and supporter of everything 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.200 that you do. And so when I saw that super 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.679 Fan was coming out, I was like, we have to 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.560 have you back to scrub In to talk about it. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.600 And I'm really angry that you didn't apply, you know what, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.880 because we haven't had the Jonas brothers on yet. Yeah, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.040 so when we have Jonas Brothers on, I fully expect 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:43.800 a casting tape. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.640 Wait, you would be amazing how many episodes are in 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.600 the season. So we have six episodes. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.480 It's a it's like a TV spectacular special series, so 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:54.639 just six episodes. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:56.680 It starts August ninth with. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.720 Ell cool J and then we have Shanaiah Pitbull, Kelsey 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.760 Ballerini who I love, Little Big Town who I love, 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:04.840 Gloria Stefan. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.559 So we're really excited. It's like every. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.520 Genre and so basically a lot of fans apply and 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:11.519 then how does it work? 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:12.920 Yeah, so basically what happened. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.799 Like I'll use Shania as an example because I'm wearing 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.720 a Let's Go Girls T shirt. So we had Shanaia 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.160 make a social post and say hey, I'm looking for 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.440 my number one super fan. Here's how you apply. So 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.240 there was just like hundreds of thousands of applicants from 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.119 around the world. We really only took people from America. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.960 There's like a one exception from a Canadian guy for Shania. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.760 But and they had to prove three different ways that 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.600 they're a super fan. So they had to prove like 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.840 they knew the trivia about them. Obviously, they had to 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.200 prove that they knew the music in the auditions, and 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.320 then they had to like have a fandom story. Like 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.560 one of the guys was like, I have a glorious 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.200 Stephan room in my house and like took us for 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.440 a tour of the room, and like another girl for 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.760 Shania was like I I was such a fan of 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:00.520 you when I was growing up because my parents listened 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.080 to you, and then I rediscovered you in college and 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.880 then I got diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer and like 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.400 I listened to come on over every time I was 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.480 in treatment because it just cheered me up for some reason. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.560 And like has a big Let's Go Girls tattoo across 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:12.720 her back, Like wow. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.040 There just like really cool stories. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.640 There's like some people that learn English by listening to 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.040 you know, and then like, oh my gosh, there was 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.520 a kid that like for the Lla Cool Jay episode 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.800 who literally like has built his whole life around Ella, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.280 Like where's the turtleneck and the chain and the can 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:27.960 gole and like looks like a mini ll. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.040 It's like sodorable. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.840 Anyway, So the fans, we cast the fans, We cast 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.240 a whole bunch of them, and they all came to 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.360 the studio and then no one knew they were getting 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.479 called until the moment that we're actually filming the show. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.159 And then we had is the premise that the artist 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.000 actually gets to pick their. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:43.719 Number one super fan. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.000 So we didn't want to make the artists have to 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.680 choose because we thought they wouldn't want to. So what 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.039 it is is, it's three rounds of super fan like 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:57.760 game show play where they prove their fanness and each 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.839 round we eliminate someone like someone to the lowest points 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.560 or doesn't get the song or whatever, and then the 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.560 final two compete and it's actually America votes, so we 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.240 don't know who wins yet. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:11.719 Oh that's yes. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.880 So it's like a RuPaul's Drag Race is my favorite 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.680 television show, and so what they do in their finales, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.320 they film two endings, you know, with like. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.479 Each person winning, and then they do a watch party 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.560 and whoever RuPaul picks, that's what they roll. So nobody 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.440 knows until it actually airs on TV. And that was 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:29.440 really important to me. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.800 So you're gonna be able to watch at home and 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.200 be like, I've fallen in love with this guy, TJ, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.440 and like I'm going to vote hashtag super fan TJ 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:38.240 during the hour. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:38.520 You know. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.440 I appreciate that because as a fan of Love Island UK, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.479 when I watch it in real time, and I was 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.960 so excited to finally get to that point where I'm 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.040 watching with them, and then I realized I can't vote 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.000 because the UK is like a few days ahead. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.599 I'm like so pissed about it. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.200 Yeah, so it was really important because I feel like, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.960 you know, who should decide the super fan the other 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.599 members of the fan them. Yeah, so they should watch 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.400 and judge and be like, who do we want to 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:04.279 carry this crown? 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.359 Okay, but I want to talk about like this show 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:11.279 from inception to now because when was this your thought? 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:12.680 Like when did you have the idea of this show? 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.000 Because you're the creator, You're the creator the executive producer 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:16.719 and a co host. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.560 Yes, I'm so tired, but I don't know what happened 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.120 in Hollywood, but like no one was calling me. It 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.840 was like everyone lost my phone number. And I was like, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.560 am I ever going to work again? And so then 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.359 I had to make a show and hire myself to 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:29.080 be the host of it. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:30.160 So you're welcome me. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.200 Yay, good job hey, because I was like, wait, I've 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.560 like worked in TV for like a decade and then 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.520 I left my job and then I was like, someone 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.840 else will call me for a job. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.920 Nobody called, and I was like, well, I better make 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.520 a show. So I actually originally originally registered this idea 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.360 with the Writer's Guild and Director's Guild in twenty fourteen. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.520 So it was an idea had very very long time ago. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.560 It didn't really come to fruition until I had left 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.119 the job that I was at for a long time. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.520 And yere was that that was right at the start 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.200 of COVID. Okay, so we'd started talking about it. I 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.240 was at the Grammys the year that they were in 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.040 New York City. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.720 I'm not sure if you were there that year. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:17.200 Twenty eighteen, Yeah, no, I was not, And I had 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.640 spoken with the executives at CBS and they're like, we 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.520 want to do more music programming, and I was like, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.360 I've got something for you. So I started working on 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.280 it and then we pitched it and it was almost 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.560 an instant yes, which was amazing because CBS is the 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.720 home of the Grammys, and you guys know like how 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.400 far music programming goes and how special music musicians are 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.280 in your relationship with them, So it was almost an 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.400 instant yes. And then everything from that point on has 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.000 been an absolute dumpster fire. Like getting it made, it 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.440 was so hard to get a budget approved. It's so 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.680 expensive to make television, especially with a list celebrities. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.120 It was so hard. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.360 During COVID to film anything, so we had to like 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.960 COVID test everyone and it adds hundreds of thousands of 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.880 dollars to the budget, Like it's just insanity. It was 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.480 so hard to book, Like you go to these big 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:07.480 stars and you're. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.920 Like, heyhow do my show and it's gonna be fans 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.560 and they're like, yeah, I want to, but like ooh, sorry, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:14.160 not available. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.720 I'll just go on the voice again, you know what 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.880 I mean? Because it's like people want people don't want 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:18.200 to be the. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.040 First at anything. They want to know it's a hit 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:20.840 before they go on it. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.600 So it was all like our relationships and it was crazy. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.920 And then in the edits, right when we finished filming 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:34.000 the show, my brother has been mentally ill my whole life, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.480 but he really had a down series of events and 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.280 I actually had to go up to Canada and I 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.520 lived in Canada for two months and admitted him to 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.319 the psych Ward. So I was literally like doing edits 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.280 and meetings from his kitchen table over zoom in this 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.000 post production where I wanted to be in the studio 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.760 with everyone watching the edits and stuff, but I had 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.560 to do everything over zoom And then at four o'clock 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.480 I would go get him a Denny's BLT sandwich and 0:08:58.480 --> 0:08:59.760 then I would sit in the psych Word with him 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.640 all the So it was just like a really intense 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.000 time that I didn't get to enjoy. And the whole 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.760 pre production of super Fan, he was just spiraling. So 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.520 it was just like I stayed focused for the ten 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.880 days we shot and then I just had to go 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:16.640 be with my family. So it's like just all of 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:21.480 it has been so difficult and has been the greatest, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:22.280 worst thing. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:22.760 Of my life. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.960 Really, Yeah, I mean it's been amazing. It's my dream show. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.640 If this doesn't work out, I swear to god. I 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.520 saw online there's an island in Nicaragua for sale for 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.280 like three hundred thousand dollars, the whole island, multiple houses, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.280 and I was like, am I gonna stay in Hollywood 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:38.280 if this show doesn't work? 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.120 I don't know. You would never, I know, but that's 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.440 what everyone says. But I'm tired, aren't you tired? 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.360 No? 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.280 I don't think I'm as tired as you, because I 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:50.240 think of the hustle, of the rejection of being not 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.400 being picked. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.080 Like, how do you know if it's going to be 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.280 good or not? Well, I know the show is fantastic. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.480 No, no, no, I mean, like what you say is a success, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:58.840 like quote unquote. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.600 Like getting a second season? 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:00.680 Got it okay? 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:01.440 Getting picked up? 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.480 And when do you find that out? 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.280 I mean, it can be in. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.520 The first two episodes, or maybe they'll wait till the 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.760 whole thing. But like you know, the television business in 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.760 general is a little bit of a dumpster fire at 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.040 the moment, so I'm not exactly sure that they're like 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.319 we really want to green light everything, like it's very competitive, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.760 especially on a network like CBS, because if you don't 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.840 get like twenty million people watching your show, you're a bomb. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:26.959 No, it's so hard. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.280 Twenty million people, twenty five people aren't watching anything these days. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.000 How many people you think are gonna watch Big Brother? 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:33.320 Ten million? Probably? 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:34.080 Maybe nine? 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.560 Yeah, nine million, So we would need to have, right, yeah, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.960 nine or ten million, So we would need to hold 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.800 on to like at least half of our lead in. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.440 Which is Big Brother. So we got have like five 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.920 or six million people watch Stay Up till ten o'clock. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.880 I think they will. It's a great show. Will I 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.000 think they will if you love. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.880 Music and Hollywood people and like the betterment of the 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.120 regular Joe winning. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:54.040 You know. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.720 Okay, but you posted something the other day that I 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.480 found to be really interesting, and it was like it 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.520 was on your Instagram story and you were saying, how 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.840 you know you're launching this show at the time when 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.280 there's a writer strike and you guys were promoting your 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.800 second book with Lady Gang Yes, in the middle of 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.040 COVID and same with your clothing line. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.600 Yeah. So I'm starting to feel like it's me. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.600 The problem. It's me, But it's. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.240 Not because I think a lot of people are also. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.800 I mean, these are huge things that are happening like 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.880 in society and culture in the world, and so a 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.320 lot of people haven't affected the same way that you have. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.839 But it like it really messes you up because it's 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.960 like you put so much of your time and energy 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.400 and effort and your life into this thing and then 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.120 not to be able to do it properly, give it 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.559 it's proper. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.040 Welcome to the world. It just feels very heartbreaking. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.120 Yeah, my podcast Lady Gang, we got a big clothing 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.000 line deal with Express and it was supposed to be 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.959 for multi collections and in stores and there's going to 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.080 be like billboards of us in. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.120 The windows and stuff. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.760 And then COVID hit and they're like, we're not selling 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.680 any clothes, especially work wear, which our collection was like 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.360 really meant for work. It was a lot of blazers 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.000 and stuff. And they're like, we're just gonna put it 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.560 up online. And it was very unceremonious and sad. We 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.520 still sold a ton of clothes, so that was kind 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.480 of a bummer. And then here we are. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.120 But how have you how are you getting through it? 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.160 Like how are you looking at because you seem to 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:21.960 be in good spirits. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.400 I'm only happy because I'm seeing you. I have my 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.520 sunshine mind on right now, I have my sunshine mind on. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:34.000 I'm like I'm a yellow or odd delicious person. Yeah, 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.520 I don't know, Like I think it's like to be honest. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.520 Every year and every kind of like thing that comes 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.560 at me, it's like another chink in the armor. And 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.920 I feel like as I get older, I care more 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.760 like I think in my twenty yeah, and I feel 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.440 like you would care less. Yeah, well, I'm more like 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.040 stable as a human, Like financially I'm stable. I'm married 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.280 to a really good man, Like I know who I am. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.760 And so the personal stuff of like your face looks 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.280 like a horse, and like the little comments on Instagram 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.000 like that, that stuff doesn't hurt me the way that 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.079 it used to. But like the career things of I've 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.800 been hustling now for like fifteen years, twenty years in 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:21.200 this business, and I really was just hoping at some 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:27.720 point all your hard work would cumulate in it getting 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.000 somehow easier, like the doors opening wider or something like that. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.000 That's interesting because like to for you, what does that mean, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.920 Like all this hard work, what would be the payoff 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.280 for you, like what would be dream case scenario for 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:40.880 you right now? 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.560 I think what is like kind of unknown, And what 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.440 people don't understand is that like I have never been 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.079 called and offered a job until my job at E 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.960 they actually called me and offered me that job, like 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.079 said hey, we want you, and I did an audition, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.240 but I've never been called by my agent. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.080 I don't even have an agent anymore. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.720 Like in my whole history of my career, no one's 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.880 ever been like, we'd like to see Kelty audition for 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.280 this show, or we'd possibly like to have her host 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:13.199 X Factor, Like never ever, ever, every single thing I've 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.400 done in my career, whether it be the podcast or 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.800 the TV or whatever, has been through me getting in 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.840 with like a time like when I started at CBS 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.160 on Insider and Entertainment Tonight, I was a digital girl. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.000 I made five hundred dollars a month and made my 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.080 own videos, book them, edited them with my own camcorder, 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.120 put them up on a website for them, did the 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.400 SEO on it, Like I got in this much and 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.760 then from there hustled my way up to being correspondent 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.960 and all these things, but like no one has ever 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.040 been like, Hey, Kelty, it would be so great if 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:42.640 you could come to our event and I would like 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.680 to give you a bunch of money, or I would 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.200 like you to like host this show, or hey, I 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.800 think you're a great host. Maybe you could audition for 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.720 the view, or you would be so great on such 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.040 and such thing, like no one's ever done that, Like 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.400 it's it's literally just me spitting my creations. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.240 Out into the world, and it's exhausting. Like isn't there 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.560 just like some show biz granddaddy that can just be 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.400 like healthy. We would like you to be at our thing, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.840 and we'd like to pay you to be there, whatever 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.760 it is. I'll host anything, like I'll host like the 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.600 envelope opening competition, Like I don't care what the show is, 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.040 the worse the better, you know what I mean. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.080 Yeah, I guess I never realized that everything that you've done, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.200 you've literally created out of thin air. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:24.640 You know. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.520 It's like, I'm sure there's been times in your life 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.160 where like either someone on your behalf has reached out 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.560 to someone or you know, maybe it was E when 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.440 you were doing the Live Red Carpets, Like someone reaches 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:35.160 out and says. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.440 Hey, you know, we're thinking about you, would you be interested? 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:38.480 Yeah, what is that? 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.640 Like, I've never had that. I've literally never had it. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.920 That is so crazy. I did not realize, and so. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.520 Like my sunshine mind gets a little dark because you're 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.840 just like having to be your own warrior all the 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.440 time and having to like sell your wares and it's 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.320 just kind of starting to get tiring. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:18.760 Yeah, but I will say as an outsider, like looking 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.800 at you, like, look, I admire so much what you've done, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.720 because I do realize how freaking hard every step of 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.720 that way is and I just feel like you've created 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:32.720 it for yourself and there's something so really cool about that. No, Like, honestly, 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.880 I really like admire the hell out of you. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.800 Well, I think we talked about it a little offline, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.000 like even when your book was coming out. There's something 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:45.040 so weird about the way our industry works and friendships 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.600 in this industry, because when you're just like coming up 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.080 and everyone in the world wants to come on your 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:52.960 radio show and like you can sit across from the 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:53.720 most famous foot and. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.640 They're like, we love you, we love you, we love you. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.560 But when you have your thing and you turn around 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.160 and you're like, hey, I now have a thing. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:02.040 Can you help me? 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.000 The silence can be deafening, you know, and that's that 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.080 was a really hard thing for me. And you know, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.800 the people in my life were like, well, Kelsey, you've 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.040 worked on like the biggest television shows in the world, Like, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.240 of course everyone's going to talk to you and you're 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.920 gonna have all these relationships, but like they're not your friends. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.119 Yeah, And I'm like they're not. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:26.480 Yeah, I really financially and I had something going no, 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.280 but like I really I just want you to know too, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.800 Like I really just respect you a lot. And I 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.440 feel like I think it was after the Lady Gang tour, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.560 after you guys had toured, Uh, you'd pick me up 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.320 and we were going somewhere and you were just like 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:44.160 very honest with me about like numbers and money and 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.879 like things like that that people don't talk about in 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.879 the industry, but let alone women to women, and like 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.560 you were just so empowering with information just because you 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.239 were like I think you guys are great and you 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:56.840