Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rent An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: We've just started the show and Mark's already on me.
Speaker 1: I'm not on you as a producer.
Speaker 2: You produce, uh huh, So I'm just giving you notes.
Speaker 1: We are scrubbing in today.
Speaker 3: Becca is we are sons, Becca, she is Sanzi. She
Speaker 3: is on vacation. But we're holding down the fort. Don't
Speaker 3: you worry. I've got Mark and Easton and Hannah here
Speaker 3: and I'm very excited for the show today.
Speaker 1: As are we. And Kelty's always so fun.
Speaker 3: She is always so fun, and she is somebody that
Speaker 3: I really admire in the industry because she really does
Speaker 3: so much, like you know how everybody says, like, you
Speaker 3: know and you have like a job, like when you
Speaker 3: check a box at the doctor's office and they say, like,
Speaker 3: what do you do professionally? She could never check a
Speaker 3: box because she does so many things, and she keeps
Speaker 3: doing more and more things.
Speaker 1: What do you put in that box?
Speaker 2: I put radio host? I think, oh yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: A radio producer.
Speaker 2: Yeah nice, yeah, yeahs We're just so one dimensional.
Speaker 3: Kelty is not that no, And so she has a
Speaker 3: new show coming out and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: you gotta come on scrubbing in and promote the new
Speaker 3: show because we just love everything about Kelty. She is
Speaker 3: an award winning TV personality. She's from Canada, so we
Speaker 3: love our Canadians. Her credits include CBS's Entertainment Tonight, the
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day Parade on CBS, She's done the Grammys, Red
Speaker 3: Carpet Live, and she's currently the chief correspondent for E News.
Speaker 3: She is a New York Times best selling author Something
Speaker 3: That I Am Not, and her podcast Lady Gang is
Speaker 3: just getting so many impressive downloads worldwide. She is the creator,
Speaker 3: executive producer, and co host of the new CBS primetime
Speaker 3: series Superfan. Please let's give a warm welcome to Kelty Night.
Speaker 2: Yay me, Kelty Knight is here.
Speaker 1: My god, it's so good to see in person.
Speaker 4: It has been I think since you and Becca beat
Speaker 4: us at the People of Choice Awards for Top Podcasts.
Speaker 1: Since I've seen you in person.
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen or nineteen. We won like a bunch of years.
Speaker 3: I don't know, didn't you win it, like for four
Speaker 3: years in a row or.
Speaker 2: Some two years in a row, two years in a row.
Speaker 1: Year. So good to see you friends.
Speaker 2: It's good to see you too.
Speaker 3: I was really excited to have you on because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just like such a fan and supporter of everything
Speaker 3: that you do. And so when I saw that super
Speaker 3: Fan was coming out, I was like, we have to
Speaker 3: have you back to scrub In to talk about it.
Speaker 4: And I'm really angry that you didn't apply, you know what,
Speaker 4: because we haven't had the Jonas brothers on yet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so when we have Jonas Brothers on, I fully expect
Speaker 4: a casting tape.
Speaker 3: Wait, you would be amazing how many episodes are in
Speaker 3: the season. So we have six episodes.
Speaker 4: It's a it's like a TV spectacular special series, so
Speaker 4: just six episodes.
Speaker 1: It starts August ninth with.
Speaker 4: Ell cool J and then we have Shanaiah Pitbull, Kelsey
Speaker 4: Ballerini who I love, Little Big Town who I love,
Speaker 4: Gloria Stefan.
Speaker 1: So we're really excited. It's like every.
Speaker 3: Genre and so basically a lot of fans apply and
Speaker 3: then how does it work?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically what happened.
Speaker 4: Like I'll use Shania as an example because I'm wearing
Speaker 4: a Let's Go Girls T shirt. So we had Shanaia
Speaker 4: make a social post and say hey, I'm looking for
Speaker 4: my number one super fan. Here's how you apply. So
Speaker 4: there was just like hundreds of thousands of applicants from
Speaker 4: around the world. We really only took people from America.
Speaker 4: There's like a one exception from a Canadian guy for Shania.
Speaker 4: But and they had to prove three different ways that
Speaker 4: they're a super fan. So they had to prove like
Speaker 4: they knew the trivia about them. Obviously, they had to
Speaker 4: prove that they knew the music in the auditions, and
Speaker 4: then they had to like have a fandom story. Like
Speaker 4: one of the guys was like, I have a glorious
Speaker 4: Stephan room in my house and like took us for
Speaker 4: a tour of the room, and like another girl for
Speaker 4: Shania was like I I was such a fan of
Speaker 4: you when I was growing up because my parents listened
Speaker 4: to you, and then I rediscovered you in college and
Speaker 4: then I got diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer and like
Speaker 4: I listened to come on over every time I was
Speaker 4: in treatment because it just cheered me up for some reason.
Speaker 4: And like has a big Let's Go Girls tattoo across
Speaker 4: her back, Like wow.
Speaker 1: There just like really cool stories.
Speaker 4: There's like some people that learn English by listening to
Speaker 4: you know, and then like, oh my gosh, there was
Speaker 4: a kid that like for the Lla Cool Jay episode
Speaker 4: who literally like has built his whole life around Ella,
Speaker 4: Like where's the turtleneck and the chain and the can
Speaker 4: gole and like looks like a mini ll.
Speaker 1: It's like sodorable.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So the fans, we cast the fans, We cast
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of them, and they all came to
Speaker 4: the studio and then no one knew they were getting
Speaker 4: called until the moment that we're actually filming the show.
Speaker 3: And then we had is the premise that the artist
Speaker 3: actually gets to pick their.
Speaker 2: Number one super fan.
Speaker 4: So we didn't want to make the artists have to
Speaker 4: choose because we thought they wouldn't want to. So what
Speaker 4: it is is, it's three rounds of super fan like
Speaker 4: game show play where they prove their fanness and each
Speaker 4: round we eliminate someone like someone to the lowest points
Speaker 4: or doesn't get the song or whatever, and then the
Speaker 4: final two compete and it's actually America votes, so we
Speaker 4: don't know who wins yet.
Speaker 2: Oh that's yes.
Speaker 4: So it's like a RuPaul's Drag Race is my favorite
Speaker 4: television show, and so what they do in their finales,
Speaker 4: they film two endings, you know, with like.
Speaker 1: Each person winning, and then they do a watch party
Speaker 1: and whoever RuPaul picks, that's what they roll. So nobody
Speaker 1: knows until it actually airs on TV. And that was
Speaker 1: really important to me.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna be able to watch at home and
Speaker 4: be like, I've fallen in love with this guy, TJ,
Speaker 4: and like I'm going to vote hashtag super fan TJ
Speaker 4: during the hour.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that because as a fan of Love Island UK,
Speaker 3: when I watch it in real time, and I was
Speaker 3: so excited to finally get to that point where I'm
Speaker 3: watching with them, and then I realized I can't vote
Speaker 3: because the UK is like a few days ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm like so pissed about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was really important because I feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, who should decide the super fan the other
Speaker 4: members of the fan them. Yeah, so they should watch
Speaker 4: and judge and be like, who do we want to
Speaker 4: carry this crown?
Speaker 3: Okay, but I want to talk about like this show
Speaker 3: from inception to now because when was this your thought?
Speaker 2: Like when did you have the idea of this show?
Speaker 3: Because you're the creator, You're the creator the executive producer
Speaker 3: and a co host.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm so tired, but I don't know what happened
Speaker 4: in Hollywood, but like no one was calling me. It
Speaker 4: was like everyone lost my phone number. And I was like,
Speaker 4: am I ever going to work again? And so then
Speaker 4: I had to make a show and hire myself to
Speaker 4: be the host of it.
Speaker 1: So you're welcome me.
Speaker 5: Yay, good job hey, because I was like, wait, I've
Speaker 5: like worked in TV for like a decade and then
Speaker 5: I left my job and then I was like, someone
Speaker 5: else will call me for a job.
Speaker 3: Nobody called, and I was like, well, I better make
Speaker 3: a show. So I actually originally originally registered this idea
Speaker 3: with the Writer's Guild and Director's Guild in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: So it was an idea had very very long time ago.
Speaker 3: It didn't really come to fruition until I had left
Speaker 3: the job that I was at for a long time.
Speaker 3: And yere was that that was right at the start
Speaker 3: of COVID. Okay, so we'd started talking about it. I
Speaker 3: was at the Grammys the year that they were in
Speaker 3: New York City.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you were there that year.
Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen, Yeah, no, I was not, And I had
Speaker 4: spoken with the executives at CBS and they're like, we
Speaker 4: want to do more music programming, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I've got something for you. So I started working on
Speaker 4: it and then we pitched it and it was almost
Speaker 4: an instant yes, which was amazing because CBS is the
Speaker 4: home of the Grammys, and you guys know like how
Speaker 4: far music programming goes and how special music musicians are
Speaker 4: in your relationship with them, So it was almost an
Speaker 4: instant yes. And then everything from that point on has
Speaker 4: been an absolute dumpster fire. Like getting it made, it
Speaker 4: was so hard to get a budget approved. It's so
Speaker 4: expensive to make television, especially with a list celebrities.
Speaker 1: It was so hard.
Speaker 4: During COVID to film anything, so we had to like
Speaker 4: COVID test everyone and it adds hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 4: dollars to the budget, Like it's just insanity. It was
Speaker 4: so hard to book, Like you go to these big
Speaker 4: stars and you're.
Speaker 3: Like, heyhow do my show and it's gonna be fans
Speaker 3: and they're like, yeah, I want to, but like ooh, sorry,
Speaker 3: not available.
Speaker 4: I'll just go on the voice again, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Because it's like people want people don't want
Speaker 4: to be the.
Speaker 1: First at anything. They want to know it's a hit
Speaker 1: before they go on it.
Speaker 4: So it was all like our relationships and it was crazy.
Speaker 4: And then in the edits, right when we finished filming
Speaker 4: the show, my brother has been mentally ill my whole life,
Speaker 4: but he really had a down series of events and
Speaker 4: I actually had to go up to Canada and I
Speaker 4: lived in Canada for two months and admitted him to
Speaker 4: the psych Ward. So I was literally like doing edits
Speaker 4: and meetings from his kitchen table over zoom in this
Speaker 4: post production where I wanted to be in the studio
Speaker 4: with everyone watching the edits and stuff, but I had
Speaker 4: to do everything over zoom And then at four o'clock
Speaker 4: I would go get him a Denny's BLT sandwich and
Speaker 4: then I would sit in the psych Word with him
Speaker 4: all the So it was just like a really intense
Speaker 4: time that I didn't get to enjoy. And the whole
Speaker 4: pre production of super Fan, he was just spiraling. So
Speaker 4: it was just like I stayed focused for the ten
Speaker 4: days we shot and then I just had to go
Speaker 4: be with my family. So it's like just all of
Speaker 4: it has been so difficult and has been the greatest,
Speaker 4: worst thing.
Speaker 1: Of my life.
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, I mean it's been amazing. It's my dream show.
Speaker 4: If this doesn't work out, I swear to god. I
Speaker 4: saw online there's an island in Nicaragua for sale for
Speaker 4: like three hundred thousand dollars, the whole island, multiple houses,
Speaker 4: and I was like, am I gonna stay in Hollywood
Speaker 4: if this show doesn't work?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You would never, I know, but that's
Speaker 1: what everyone says. But I'm tired, aren't you tired?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm as tired as you, because I
Speaker 3: think of the hustle, of the rejection of being not
Speaker 3: being picked.
Speaker 1: Like, how do you know if it's going to be
Speaker 1: good or not? Well, I know the show is fantastic.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean, like what you say is a success,
Speaker 3: like quote unquote.
Speaker 1: Like getting a second season?
Speaker 2: Got it okay?
Speaker 1: Getting picked up?
Speaker 2: And when do you find that out?
Speaker 1: I mean, it can be in.
Speaker 4: The first two episodes, or maybe they'll wait till the
Speaker 4: whole thing. But like you know, the television business in
Speaker 4: general is a little bit of a dumpster fire at
Speaker 4: the moment, so I'm not exactly sure that they're like
Speaker 4: we really want to green light everything, like it's very competitive,
Speaker 4: especially on a network like CBS, because if you don't
Speaker 4: get like twenty million people watching your show, you're a bomb.
Speaker 2: No, it's so hard.
Speaker 3: Twenty million people, twenty five people aren't watching anything these days.
Speaker 1: How many people you think are gonna watch Big Brother?
Speaker 1: Ten million? Probably?
Speaker 2: Maybe nine?
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine million, So we would need to have, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: nine or ten million, So we would need to hold
Speaker 4: on to like at least half of our lead in.
Speaker 1: Which is Big Brother. So we got have like five
Speaker 1: or six million people watch Stay Up till ten o'clock.
Speaker 2: I think they will. It's a great show. Will I
Speaker 2: think they will if you love.
Speaker 4: Music and Hollywood people and like the betterment of the
Speaker 4: regular Joe winning.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you posted something the other day that I
Speaker 3: found to be really interesting, and it was like it
Speaker 3: was on your Instagram story and you were saying, how
Speaker 3: you know you're launching this show at the time when
Speaker 3: there's a writer strike and you guys were promoting your
Speaker 3: second book with Lady Gang Yes, in the middle of
Speaker 3: COVID and same with your clothing line.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm starting to feel like it's me.
Speaker 2: The problem. It's me, But it's.
Speaker 3: Not because I think a lot of people are also.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are huge things that are happening like
Speaker 3: in society and culture in the world, and so a
Speaker 3: lot of people haven't affected the same way that you have.
Speaker 3: But it like it really messes you up because it's
Speaker 3: like you put so much of your time and energy
Speaker 3: and effort and your life into this thing and then
Speaker 3: not to be able to do it properly, give it
Speaker 3: it's proper.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the world. It just feels very heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my podcast Lady Gang, we got a big clothing
Speaker 4: line deal with Express and it was supposed to be
Speaker 4: for multi collections and in stores and there's going to
Speaker 4: be like billboards of us in.
Speaker 1: The windows and stuff.
Speaker 4: And then COVID hit and they're like, we're not selling
Speaker 4: any clothes, especially work wear, which our collection was like
Speaker 4: really meant for work. It was a lot of blazers
Speaker 4: and stuff. And they're like, we're just gonna put it
Speaker 4: up online. And it was very unceremonious and sad. We
Speaker 4: still sold a ton of clothes, so that was kind
Speaker 4: of a bummer. And then here we are.
Speaker 3: But how have you how are you getting through it?
Speaker 3: Like how are you looking at because you seem to
Speaker 3: be in good spirits.
Speaker 4: I'm only happy because I'm seeing you. I have my
Speaker 4: sunshine mind on right now, I have my sunshine mind on.
Speaker 4: I'm like I'm a yellow or odd delicious person. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I think it's like to be honest.
Speaker 4: Every year and every kind of like thing that comes
Speaker 4: at me, it's like another chink in the armor. And
Speaker 4: I feel like as I get older, I care more
Speaker 4: like I think in my twenty yeah, and I feel
Speaker 4: like you would care less. Yeah, well, I'm more like
Speaker 4: stable as a human, Like financially I'm stable. I'm married
Speaker 4: to a really good man, Like I know who I am.
Speaker 4: And so the personal stuff of like your face looks
Speaker 4: like a horse, and like the little comments on Instagram
Speaker 4: like that, that stuff doesn't hurt me the way that
Speaker 4: it used to. But like the career things of I've
Speaker 4: been hustling now for like fifteen years, twenty years in
Speaker 4: this business, and I really was just hoping at some
Speaker 4: point all your hard work would cumulate in it getting
Speaker 4: somehow easier, like the doors opening wider or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's interesting because like to for you, what does that mean,
Speaker 3: Like all this hard work, what would be the payoff
Speaker 3: for you, like what would be dream case scenario for
Speaker 3: you right now?
Speaker 4: I think what is like kind of unknown, And what
Speaker 4: people don't understand is that like I have never been
Speaker 4: called and offered a job until my job at E
Speaker 4: they actually called me and offered me that job, like
Speaker 4: said hey, we want you, and I did an audition,
Speaker 4: but I've never been called by my agent.
Speaker 1: I don't even have an agent anymore.
Speaker 4: Like in my whole history of my career, no one's
Speaker 4: ever been like, we'd like to see Kelty audition for
Speaker 4: this show, or we'd possibly like to have her host
Speaker 4: X Factor, Like never ever, ever, every single thing I've
Speaker 4: done in my career, whether it be the podcast or
Speaker 4: the TV or whatever, has been through me getting in
Speaker 4: with like a time like when I started at CBS
Speaker 4: on Insider and Entertainment Tonight, I was a digital girl.
Speaker 4: I made five hundred dollars a month and made my
Speaker 4: own videos, book them, edited them with my own camcorder,
Speaker 4: put them up on a website for them, did the
Speaker 4: SEO on it, Like I got in this much and
Speaker 4: then from there hustled my way up to being correspondent
Speaker 4: and all these things, but like no one has ever
Speaker 4: been like, Hey, Kelty, it would be so great if
Speaker 4: you could come to our event and I would like
Speaker 4: to give you a bunch of money, or I would
Speaker 4: like you to like host this show, or hey, I
Speaker 4: think you're a great host. Maybe you could audition for
Speaker 4: the view, or you would be so great on such
Speaker 4: and such thing, like no one's ever done that, Like
Speaker 4: it's it's literally just me spitting my creations.
Speaker 1: Out into the world, and it's exhausting. Like isn't there
Speaker 1: just like some show biz granddaddy that can just be
Speaker 1: like healthy. We would like you to be at our thing,
Speaker 1: and we'd like to pay you to be there, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. I'll host anything, like I'll host like the
Speaker 1: envelope opening competition, Like I don't care what the show is,
Speaker 1: the worse the better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I never realized that everything that you've done,
Speaker 3: you've literally created out of thin air.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like, I'm sure there's been times in your life
Speaker 4: where like either someone on your behalf has reached out
Speaker 4: to someone or you know, maybe it was E when
Speaker 4: you were doing the Live Red Carpets, Like someone reaches
Speaker 4: out and says.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know, we're thinking about you, would you be interested?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 1: Like, I've never had that. I've literally never had it.
Speaker 2: That is so crazy. I did not realize, and so.
Speaker 4: Like my sunshine mind gets a little dark because you're
Speaker 4: just like having to be your own warrior all the
Speaker 4: time and having to like sell your wares and it's
Speaker 4: just kind of starting to get tiring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will say as an outsider, like looking
Speaker 3: at you, like, look, I admire so much what you've done,
Speaker 3: because I do realize how freaking hard every step of
Speaker 3: that way is and I just feel like you've created
Speaker 3: it for yourself and there's something so really cool about that. No, Like, honestly,
Speaker 3: I really like admire the hell out of you.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we talked about it a little offline,
Speaker 4: like even when your book was coming out. There's something
Speaker 4: so weird about the way our industry works and friendships
Speaker 4: in this industry, because when you're just like coming up
Speaker 4: and everyone in the world wants to come on your
Speaker 4: radio show and like you can sit across from the
Speaker 4: most famous foot and.
Speaker 1: They're like, we love you, we love you, we love you.
Speaker 4: But when you have your thing and you turn around
Speaker 4: and you're like, hey, I now have a thing.
Speaker 1: Can you help me?
Speaker 4: The silence can be deafening, you know, and that's that
Speaker 4: was a really hard thing for me. And you know,
Speaker 4: the people in my life were like, well, Kelsey, you've
Speaker 4: worked on like the biggest television shows in the world, Like,
Speaker 4: of course everyone's going to talk to you and you're
Speaker 4: gonna have all these relationships, but like they're not your friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like they're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really financially and I had something going no,
Speaker 3: but like I really I just want you to know too,
Speaker 3: Like I really just respect you a lot. And I
Speaker 3: feel like I think it was after the Lady Gang tour,
Speaker 3: after you guys had toured, Uh, you'd pick me up
Speaker 3: and we were going somewhere and you were just like
Speaker 3: very honest with me about like numbers and money and
Speaker 3: like things like that that people don't talk about in
Speaker 3: the industry, but let alone women to women, and like
Speaker 3: you were just so empowering with information just because you
Speaker 3: were like I think you guys are great and you
Speaker 3: deserve this and like da da da da. And I
Speaker 3: just found that to be really really cool because it's
Speaker 3: like really challenging to be a woman in this industry.
Speaker 3: Because you can't stand up for yourself and you can't
Speaker 3: like say things, and you're also not you don't have
Speaker 3: anything to stand on, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: like nobody's telling you anything, so you're kind of going
Speaker 3: and blind. And like that was like some made me
Speaker 3: feel so powerful for some reason, Like I was like yeah.
Speaker 4: No, and I know, And I think what is really
Speaker 4: cool about especially in the podcast world, moving from super
Speaker 4: Fan to like Lady Gang, is is that like we
Speaker 4: all came up kind of in the same I like
Speaker 4: always say class of podcasts. It was kind of the
Speaker 4: same timing and the same we were all breaking out
Speaker 4: being known as these top podcasts at the same time,
Speaker 4: which was like so thrilling. And I think what's so
Speaker 4: cool about it is that there was this community of
Speaker 4: like five to eight podcasts and we've been so in
Speaker 4: the mix with each other, that all of us, and
Speaker 4: it was never something we talked about, but there was
Speaker 4: never a conversation of like, well one only one of
Speaker 4: us can win. I mean, only one of us can
Speaker 4: win the People's Choice Award, which is scrubbing in but
Speaker 4: like it was never like there can be one top
Speaker 4: female podcast and then everyone else you're screwed. Like we
Speaker 4: all went on each other's shows, We promoted each other,
Speaker 4: we helped each other whenever anyone else had things on.
Speaker 4: And I think talking about contracts and money and what
Speaker 4: we were making and what we should be making was
Speaker 4: like a really important part of that, because if you
Speaker 4: were making four dollars an hour and I was making
Speaker 4: twenty dollars an hour, like then that's really unfair. And
Speaker 4: it's meaning that when I leave and go somewhere else
Speaker 4: than this, someone's going to try and pay me four
Speaker 4: dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: And I don't want that. I want everyone to be
Speaker 1: at the twenty dollars an hour mark. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the minimum wages anymore. It
Speaker 4: was four dollars and fourteen cents. When I got my
Speaker 4: first job in Canada. I was a chicken bone breaker
Speaker 4: at least famous recipe chicken because you can't deep fry
Speaker 4: a thigh with the bone intact and will not cook properly.
Speaker 1: EWW you're welcome. Ew I'm a vegetarian now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm having a very weird thing
Speaker 3: with chicken these days, Like I just like can't I'm
Speaker 3: like being really grossed out with chicken Yeah, okay, sorry, yeah.
Speaker 2: I really threw me off there with that one. But
Speaker 2: with Lady Gang, do you feel because how long have
Speaker 2: you guys been.
Speaker 4: Doing Lady Gang now since twenty fifteen, and you're it's
Speaker 4: just as hot as ever?
Speaker 1: Do you know if that's true?
Speaker 3: Really, I mightn't keep reinventing it or like making it fresh.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We're trying to do video, damn it. I actually was.
Speaker 4: I wanted to get in a podcast so I could
Speaker 4: be ugly, but face is very puffy in the morning
Speaker 4: when we podcast. They don't want to be on camera,
Speaker 4: especially on my own camera that I'm setting up myself
Speaker 4: and then editing myself, Like this is more work.
Speaker 1: Guys, we used to podcasting was so easy.
Speaker 4: We got a little drunk, We sat in our sweatpants,
Speaker 4: we talked some shes and then we like turn the
Speaker 4: recording button off. Now I got to set up lights
Speaker 4: and put a lie lash on.
Speaker 2: It's exhausting.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think we just have, Like you guys, we have
Speaker 4: a really good core group listeners, and we came in
Speaker 4: a podcast in an exciting time, like we've watched Becca
Speaker 4: meet her husband, get engaged, get married, have a baby.
Speaker 1: We've watched Jack have.
Speaker 4: Many many bad boyfriends, find her person, get engaged. Now
Speaker 4: she's getting married in September. We've watched me be maniac,
Speaker 4: so you know, it's been great be a maniac.
Speaker 3: But you guys, you were just talking before you got on.
Speaker 3: You and Chris have been together for ten ten years
Speaker 3: years and married for ten Yeah. And I saw that
Speaker 3: you posted something the other day about like you finally
Speaker 3: missed him for the first time.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm like becoming a so soft, I'm becoming you.
Speaker 4: I know, Well, what's your sign Aquarius?
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting? Interesting?
Speaker 1: But I'm a three on the Ennagram, which is like
Speaker 1: I only care about work.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, my husband's been away for six weeks with
Speaker 4: one of his he's a music manager with one of
Speaker 4: his artists, and they've been all over the world, have
Speaker 4: been through Europe and they've been they're in Australia and
Speaker 4: then they're going to Singapore and it's been like so crazy
Speaker 4: in the time zones, like we've barely spoken.
Speaker 1: And I was watching The Bear. Do you watch your Bear?
Speaker 2: I haven't. I got friends watching it, but I he
Speaker 2: always watches it after fall asleep.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it has a great ninety soundtrack. The show's great,
Speaker 4: but like it's a lot of count and Crows and
Speaker 4: Ram and just like really good nineties music that just
Speaker 4: makes me feel like a little desperate fifteen year old.
Speaker 1: And so then I like sat.
Speaker 4: There and I was watching it and this Ram song
Speaker 4: was playing, and I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 4: really miss Chris.
Speaker 1: I've never missed him before in my whole life.
Speaker 4: Like he would go away for work, I'd be at work,
Speaker 4: like I'm happy to be alone.
Speaker 1: I'm very like independent person. I have lots to do.
Speaker 1: I like to putts, like I'm not really bothered. I'm
Speaker 1: not like one of those girls.
Speaker 4: It's like a Labrador retriever that's like and like you know,
Speaker 4: like I'm just like kind of on my own and
Speaker 4: like I'm cool.
Speaker 1: And anyway, I just really missed out and then it
Speaker 1: went away. I'm fine now. It was just a moment.
Speaker 2: It was just a moment, like a fleeting moment.
Speaker 4: It was a moment. And that night, that night, I
Speaker 4: was just like I just missed him so much. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, shmooy woopy poopy, you should fish
Speaker 4: time me, where am I rit? And he's like, who
Speaker 4: are you?
Speaker 2: How make him feel?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think he was like, who is this? Because normally
Speaker 4: I just ignore his phone calls and pretend I'm in
Speaker 4: a meeting.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I do. I don't always want to.
Speaker 3: Talk, literally the opposite of me. Really, Yeah, I always
Speaker 3: want to talk.
Speaker 1: But that what are you?
Speaker 2: What's your answer? Okay?
Speaker 1: But also that's like your personality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very much.
Speaker 1: So you know. Yeah, and that's why you're the peopil's
Speaker 1: choice and why I am not. I'm a cold, hard
Speaker 1: bitch choice.
Speaker 2: No, you're not.
Speaker 4: No, I'm a nice person, but I don't I'm not
Speaker 4: a big social person, like I'm Jane Fonda.
Speaker 1: I don't really like people.
Speaker 4: And this would be my social interaction for like at
Speaker 4: the least four days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, I'll just be hiding. Is that how you
Speaker 3: get so much done?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 4: I don't go out unless i'm getting paid. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to like your dinner. That's so interesting.
Speaker 1: No, that's a lot. I went to bec a Tilly's.
Speaker 4: I went to Becca's clothing launch, and I wasn't getting
Speaker 4: paid just to support her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you were there.
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is like I somebody I'm not
Speaker 3: going to say who it was because I don't remember,
Speaker 3: but it was somebody that's like very successful, successful businesswoman,
Speaker 3: and she was saying that she just does not like
Speaker 3: partake in social activity, like she just like works and
Speaker 3: then she's home like that's it. Yeah, And I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: if I did that, I feel like I would be
Speaker 3: so much further along in my career.
Speaker 2: I feel like I I'm too social.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're really liked, You're well liked, and you're
Speaker 4: fabulous to follow on Instagram. Always an event, always a trip,
Speaker 4: a story, a pantsuit, a birthday party, a cake, a
Speaker 4: dinner with your guy, Like it's not fabulous to watch,
Speaker 4: and I think, but my difference is like I don't
Speaker 4: like social activities. So for me, I do take time
Speaker 4: off like from I'm not always working, but when I
Speaker 4: am not working, like I'll go on a hike with
Speaker 4: my dog and listen to like a podcast or like
Speaker 4: for me, I read like probably an hour and a
Speaker 4: half every night every night. Yeah, I love to read.
Speaker 4: I'm like looking forward right now, I'm sitting and you're
Speaker 4: my friend, and I love you, and I'm so happy
Speaker 4: to be here, and I'm so excited to like talk
Speaker 4: about superfan. But like I'm really looking forward to like
Speaker 4: seven thirty pm when I roll up with like a
Speaker 4: nice heating cuddly and you know thing that you put
Speaker 4: in the microwave and smells like lavender, and I put
Speaker 4: it around my neck and then I'm just gonna get
Speaker 4: in my book again. I can't wait to read a cap.
Speaker 2: That's like your nightly routine. That's what you do.
Speaker 1: Everyday, even when Chris is home, And what do you
Speaker 1: do on the weekends. I love to read. I love
Speaker 1: to read a book.
Speaker 4: I play canasta with my gaze. I have like a
Speaker 4: little canasta club with my two friends, and so Chris
Speaker 4: and I will go with them Crisp and Gone, so
Speaker 4: we learn how to play crib actually, because you can
Speaker 4: play that with three people.
Speaker 1: I was like, Chris is out. I played canasta.
Speaker 4: I really like to like organize like drawers, and I
Speaker 4: like to read and online shop and.
Speaker 1: You know, just big cool things like that.
Speaker 4: No one invites me into anything or offer sweet jobs.
Speaker 1: That is so no.
Speaker 3: I think it's so it's the way the world works.
Speaker 3: Everybody has their own thing, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I feel opposite.
Speaker 4: I feel like my career would be in a better
Speaker 4: place if I left the house and like networked. Oh interesting,
Speaker 4: I feel like nobody knows that I exist because I
Speaker 4: don't you see me on TV and then nowhere else.
Speaker 2: That's so interesting, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like how there's those people that are like doing
Speaker 4: the rounds and they're like at every event, every event,
Speaker 4: getting their picture taken.
Speaker 1: And I tried that for a little bit.
Speaker 3: But there's something every single day and night I know
Speaker 3: the year, like truly there's beck and I call them
Speaker 3: industry events. Yeah, there's something every single dinner.
Speaker 1: To celebrate the sunscreen and whatever.
Speaker 3: This new launch and that new launch and come and
Speaker 3: like I get invited to stuff at like ten am
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have a job.
Speaker 3: But people go like that they do these events because
Speaker 3: people obviously can go, and I'm like, it is it
Speaker 3: can be if you're going to everything like truly exhausting.
Speaker 4: And also where are we getting the outfits? Because when
Speaker 4: I did, when I hustled this, I was doing rent
Speaker 4: the runway and then it's like no one wants to
Speaker 4: be photographed by getting images and a rent the Runway frock,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like it's great when
Speaker 4: it's like your cousin's graduation and you needed a gown
Speaker 4: for one time.
Speaker 1: But it's like the time.
Speaker 4: That I appeared in like Star magazine and the story
Speaker 4: was like everyone's wearing lips and like it was all
Speaker 4: these like famous people with like lips on their dresses
Speaker 4: and then me wearing like a bad Rental Runway lip dress.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Can't go out, don't have enough clothes. No, I'll go
Speaker 4: to a concert. I'll go to a concert all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm with Jamie Lee Curtis. I could use a matine.
Speaker 2: I'm with that with Jamie Lee Curtis too.
Speaker 3: I could even But I'll go to a concert. And
Speaker 3: Jonas Brothers, they like to keep it going till late.
Speaker 2: Inline.
Speaker 4: I went to their Vegas show and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm exhausted, and you haven't even come out yet.
Speaker 2: What did they come out to mime?
Speaker 4: They came out at like nine fifteen or something. And
Speaker 4: then it's like, I mean, I enjoy the Hollywood Bowl
Speaker 4: because they have a hard cutoff yeah yea, which is
Speaker 4: kind of nice. You know you're gonna be done at eleven,
Speaker 4: But I went South third a blind at the YouTube
Speaker 4: space or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube theater, YouTube kid.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it took forever for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like all the hits, And that's my biggest problem.
Speaker 3: I think my biggest downfall in life is.
Speaker 1: That iland to be out in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to go to bed very early.
Speaker 1: Yeah me too. I'm like the sun is out most
Speaker 1: of the time, like curtains closed. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's just like I feel like we could, really
Speaker 4: they get a like a five a nice five pm concert.
Speaker 4: Wh White aren't they not doing that? They would sell
Speaker 4: more tickets.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 4: People are having trouble selling tickets right now if you're
Speaker 4: not Taylor or Beyonce, Like every tour is bombing.
Speaker 1: Basically.
Speaker 3: I think Jamie Lee Curtis was honestly onto something like
Speaker 3: a matinee.
Speaker 4: I would go, like I would go to five. It
Speaker 4: doesn't need to be mad Dae, it needs me after work.
Speaker 4: Like so it's like, if our work day ends at
Speaker 4: four thirty five, yeah, could we get a quick cocktail
Speaker 4: and then be at the concert ready to go at
Speaker 4: six and then the openers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I know they need the openers because they need to
Speaker 4: sell a few extra tickets and then have a thing
Speaker 4: like I don't need two openers I've never heard of
Speaker 4: before you go on at ten pm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done with the openers.
Speaker 4: I don't want no, I'm I don't know, texting Live
Speaker 4: Nation being like yo, what time are they really well
Speaker 4: they're managers or whatever, being like what time are they
Speaker 4: really going on?
Speaker 1: And then I go for that.
Speaker 4: Sorry to the openers. I know this is great for you,
Speaker 4: but like, I'm main, main girl energy.
Speaker 2: Only girl energy.
Speaker 3: I'd rather stay home and read for a few more
Speaker 3: hours and then go I know.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm totally totally with you.
Speaker 3: I want you to tell everybody where they can God yes,
Speaker 3: watch super Fan, where they can follow super Fan, where
Speaker 3: they can tweet along with super Fan, and how they
Speaker 3: can engage that we can get you a season two.
Speaker 1: I love you so much for saying that. Thank you
Speaker 1: for asking.
Speaker 4: Okay, So the show premiered on August ninth, But next
Speaker 4: week we have Shania. Every Wednesday for the next six
Speaker 4: weeks we have Shania Twain and it's a fabulous episode
Speaker 4: and she's so so so good. So listen, I really
Speaker 4: need the scrubbers too.
Speaker 2: Is that what you call them?
Speaker 4: The scrubbs, right, scrub sisters, the scrub sisters to vote? Like,
Speaker 4: all I'm asking is for you to turn your television
Speaker 4: and nine pm to CBS and just go on your
Speaker 4: Twitter before you delete it forever, and just vote for
Speaker 4: your people.
Speaker 1: I want. I really just I'm so old school. I
Speaker 1: just want super Fan to trend. I wanted to trend
Speaker 1: so that no matter what the ratings are, I can
Speaker 1: be like, but I mattered to the Internet. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you can watch it next day on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you scribers are going to show up for
Speaker 2: you because you know why.
Speaker 4: Because they know that they showed up too hard for
Speaker 4: you at the People's Choice Awards and then I lost.
Speaker 3: No, when you you were doing that that social campaign
Speaker 3: for Superfan, she like asked us to do this TikTok, right,
Speaker 3: let me tell you about this. No, because I don't
Speaker 3: do tiktoks. Like get this text message from Kelty and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, can I support you in another way?
Speaker 3: Always like, can I support you in any other way?
Speaker 3: I just don't do these things on TikTok, and then
Speaker 3: I could just like feel the sadness on the other end.
Speaker 3: I was like okay, dark yeah, and so I was
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna do this. I needed a friend to
Speaker 3: come over and help me. So it took me a
Speaker 3: few weeks maybe a.
Speaker 1: Month, and she did it and she's a great person.
Speaker 3: I felt I had the same exact thing happened when
Speaker 3: our book came out, because.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like where are the people?
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like we're the people because a lot
Speaker 3: of people did show up, but a lot of people
Speaker 3: that I thought would show up didn't show up. And
Speaker 3: that was like really heartbreaking, real heartbreak, right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like it really is. It hits you on a totally
Speaker 3: different level because I'm like it it takes nothing for
Speaker 3: you to like show support and like I don't even
Speaker 3: I don't even need people to post the link like
Speaker 3: you like some people that like know they'll post the
Speaker 3: link to like get the book here, and like I
Speaker 3: don't even need you to like post the link, just
Speaker 3: like support me and show that you're there for me.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was like really eye opening and like really,
Speaker 3: uh it was sad. It was like a beautiful time
Speaker 3: because a lot of people did show up and show support,
Speaker 3: but also really heartbreaking time because you pour so much
Speaker 3: of yourself.
Speaker 2: Into this thing and then like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So are not allowed allowed to talk about it because
Speaker 1: like we're so hashtag blessed, like oh my god, you
Speaker 1: got a publishing deal, you got a book put out
Speaker 1: that you can get in stores, like you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to be like wanh wah, Like I'm not allowed to be,
Speaker 1: Like wow, I'm just so bummed that more people didn't
Speaker 1: do the super Fan Dance challenge that I work so
Speaker 1: hard on because I had my my friend Alex dally
Speaker 1: On who was in that band the Cab write the
Speaker 1: theme song and specifically like employed by friends so that
Speaker 1: they would make residuals off the show so it gets
Speaker 1: spread the wealth, Like didn't just get like the guy
Speaker 1: that's been writing theme songs for one hundred years, like
Speaker 1: wanted someone news like where the people? But it's fine,
Speaker 1: I'm fine. That's why I don't leave this thing is.
Speaker 3: Also we have feelings, were human beings, and like that's
Speaker 3: I think that is something And the fact that you
Speaker 3: say you don't care anymore is like such a great
Speaker 3: place to be because I do care, Like my feelings
Speaker 3: really do get hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like a sensitive flower. I'm trying not
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 4: But you're also like younger than me. You've got years
Speaker 4: to get to Yeah, I'll get there. And also like
Speaker 4: you know, you just I think the important thing and
Speaker 4: like this is even for not the everyday normy woman,
Speaker 4: but like anyone that is listening and like identifying with
Speaker 4: this is like you just get smarter. You get smarter
Speaker 4: with how you spend your time and how you spend
Speaker 4: your energy. Like I've been a people pleaser my whole
Speaker 4: and when you're at the office and you're people pleasing
Speaker 4: and you're that person that never forgets someone's birthday and
Speaker 4: always brings in the cake, and like you're killing yourself
Speaker 4: and you're not taking care of yourself because you're giving
Speaker 4: so much to other people.
Speaker 1: Like it is not a good way to live your life.
Speaker 4: Like you have to put on your oxygen mask first
Speaker 4: and really take stock of like what really matters, who
Speaker 4: really matters, who your people are, and then try to
Speaker 4: sort through life, like you know, and that was it's
Speaker 4: a big wake up call and it's hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought your book was amazing.
Speaker 4: Thank you and I think that it just felt like
Speaker 4: it came out had a like I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: feel like it had its moment, so it needs like
Speaker 4: a bigger moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely didn't have its moment. You know, it
Speaker 3: can still it still has its time.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and also like it's you can do that
Speaker 4: book and paperback, which I think is what you should
Speaker 4: do because it's hardcover and it's beautiful and it has
Speaker 4: all the covers and stuff like that. But like Danny
Speaker 4: Pelagreno just put his back in paperback and had to
Speaker 4: re release that was super successful.
Speaker 1: Like our books have too many illustrations and stuff that
Speaker 1: we never do it in paperback, but like I think
Speaker 1: you should do it in paperback as like a paperback
Speaker 1: and then with journal pages in between.
Speaker 2: It and stuff interesting. Look at that enterprising. Thank you
Speaker 2: Kelty Night, that.
Speaker 1: One's a free beyond me for doing the TikTok dance.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you so much, and we
Speaker 3: are going to tune in. I'm gonna watch every single
Speaker 3: episode and tweet just to support you and thank you
Speaker 3: so much for taking the time to be here today
Speaker 3: and scrubbing.
Speaker 2: We love you.
Speaker 3: Starting out, wait, I forgot to tell you my Ellen story,
Speaker 3: which Ellen coopayo, what?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: I specially saved it. I didn't talk about it. Can
Speaker 1: I do story? I know, breaking me tee.
Speaker 4: I forgot, Oh my god, Okay, I saved this. I
Speaker 4: didn't talk about it on the podcast because I wanted
Speaker 4: to save it for scrubbing, and because I knew I
Speaker 4: was coming here. Okay, so I went nice, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: she's amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So I go to the Beyonce concert in Dubai. Oh right, okay, wait,
Speaker 4: did I tell you this story?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But I saw that you were there.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So I went to the Beyonce concert in Dubai, and uh,
Speaker 4: my husband's music manager. He's not Beyonce's manager obviously, but
Speaker 4: we were invited to go, and so we got the
Speaker 4: full treatments. So I got to fly on Emirates in
Speaker 4: the first class like pod thing where there's only like
Speaker 4: eight of them. It's like an apartment. And so I'm
Speaker 4: flying and Chris is behind me in his pod and
Speaker 4: then it was like some some people and and I
Speaker 4: this woman comes down the aisle and she's got like
Speaker 4: you know, they give you like the cotton pajamas when
Speaker 4: you're flying it.
Speaker 1: When you're flying blown. Okay, So when you're in the pod,
Speaker 1: they give you like a pajama. It's like a very
Speaker 1: like jersey.
Speaker 4: Pajama set, and so most people change into that and
Speaker 4: they sleep in that for these long half flights. But
Speaker 4: this woman comes down and like her own knit thing
Speaker 4: with like a long cardigan that was like beautiful purple color.
Speaker 1: And I reach out because I'm like, wow, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 4: I reach out and I grab the cardigan as she
Speaker 4: walks to the bathroom and I was like, wow, great cardigan,
Speaker 4: and I'm touching it and I look up and it's
Speaker 4: Ellen and she's like and then she goes to and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, that's so embarrassing. I just like grabbed a celebrity.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So fast forward. We go to the Beyonce concert and
Speaker 1: I don't she let you touch her like that?
Speaker 2: She didn't. You could just tie out. Even if somebody
Speaker 2: did that to me, I'd be like, what I know?
Speaker 1: But she was so nice. Okay, So then we did
Speaker 1: the Beyonce concert.
Speaker 4: So she's married to this guy named Chris who's also
Speaker 4: in the music business and a music producer and designer,
Speaker 4: and he's really good friends with my husband, and so
Speaker 4: we went to this like, you know, day event and
Speaker 4: it was just kind of us. Ellen was sleeping and
Speaker 4: so we hung out with his names Chris as well.
Speaker 4: So we hung out with my husband Chris and the
Speaker 4: other cuss. I'm going to make the story short. So
Speaker 4: we're talking all day and we really bonded. We were
Speaker 4: like together for like five hours, me and husband Ellen's
Speaker 4: husband Chris.
Speaker 1: We really bonded, and I felt like we were good friend.
Speaker 4: We're having great talks, like really deep talks, and I
Speaker 4: was like, how's it like supporting someone and blah blah,
Speaker 4: Like we really really talking.
Speaker 1: And it was during a time where I was really obsessed.
Speaker 4: About why people don't get divorced, like what made you
Speaker 4: stay married? Because I'm like hitting my ten your anniversary
Speaker 4: this year. And so then we walk in. This is
Speaker 4: where it gets so bad. This is my Ellen story.
Speaker 4: This is where I really scrubbed up. Okay, like I
Speaker 4: efed up. So I walk into the hotel with husband
Speaker 4: Chris and my husband Chris, and I'm like and I'm like, Ellen, hey,
Speaker 4: and we'd seen each other like never officially been introduced,
Speaker 4: but like had been in the same circle all weekend
Speaker 4: and I just look at her and I go, why
Speaker 4: do you think you and Chris haven't got divorced yet?
Speaker 4: Chris Knight turns to me and he goes kelty and
Speaker 4: she's like, well, I think we just like really and
Speaker 4: she answered it.
Speaker 1: She gave like a beautiful answer.
Speaker 4: And my husband has never been mad at me in
Speaker 4: my life, Like he's never and I say the wrong
Speaker 4: thing every instance that's available, just much like this podcast.
Speaker 4: And we walk away and he grabs my hand. He goes,
Speaker 4: that was really unnecessary, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, Chris Knight's mad at me.
Speaker 4: And then he's told this story like four times to
Speaker 4: his friends and every time they're like, whoa, you did
Speaker 4: not He's like, why would you open your conversation with
Speaker 4: like the most famous actor in the world by being like,
Speaker 4: why do you think you haven't got divorced? Not even like, God,
Speaker 4: you've been married for so long.
Speaker 1: What's the secret now? Why haven't you got divorced? Because
Speaker 1: you know there's some dirty stuff they've been married for
Speaker 1: so long. There's dirty stuff in my marriage too, and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, h well, I just didn't have enough money to
Speaker 4: leave him or whatever it is, you know, like anyway,
Speaker 4: So I'm so embarrassed. And then Chris was like, Chris
Speaker 4: husband was like, we should all get dinner. And so
Speaker 4: then Chris my husband texted Chris and was like, we
Speaker 4: should all get dinner.
Speaker 2: I said no, No, he didn't.
Speaker 4: Say no, but like we haven't at the dinner, do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I was like, I
Speaker 4: saw their house and architectural digest. I definitely want to
Speaker 4: be friends with them, like set up the dinner.
Speaker 1: Oh oh.
Speaker 4: The other part I forgot to tell you is that
Speaker 4: then after I was so inappropriate, I turned to her
Speaker 4: and I was like, hey, I just want to say
Speaker 4: like a huge thank you, like I've watched you for years,
Speaker 4: and I did that thing, which is probably so anny
Speaker 4: when you're at the Beyonce concert, but like I was like,
Speaker 4: the way that you've been so outspoken about women and
Speaker 4: their salaries has really inspired me to talk more with
Speaker 4: about money with other people. And I was like, I
Speaker 4: know you get for it, but like it's really inspired
Speaker 4: me and I love how empowered you make other women.
Speaker 4: And then she told me like kind of a whole
Speaker 4: story about like She's like, yeah, people get really mad
Speaker 4: at me for being that way, but like I think, really, yeah,
Speaker 4: she was like, I think it's the most important thing
Speaker 4: that I do in my career, is like uplifting other
Speaker 4: people and making sure we all get paid what we need.
Speaker 1: And it's like a really nice conversation.
Speaker 3: So wow, that's she's definitely a modern woman.
Speaker 4: A modern woman. Yeah, with great taste, great hair, great face,
Speaker 4: sunshine mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really nice to hear because I you know,
Speaker 3: it's like, don't ever meet your idol, Like, I'm kind of.
Speaker 1: Likely she doesn't come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I'll ask Chris.
Speaker 4: I'll be like, why do you think you're not divorced?
Speaker 4: And also would you like to have you asked? I'm sure,
Speaker 4: I'm sure we've asked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it's like an open door policy.
Speaker 3: Anybody that has ever been on a Gray's Anatomy or
Speaker 3: at any point it was even an extra Grays Anatomy
Speaker 3: has an open.
Speaker 1: Door okay to the o R here anyway, amount of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you've had everyone except except Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the next time I say her, I'll be like,
Speaker 4: why haven't you done scrubbing in?
Speaker 1: That'll be my first on. She'd be like what, I'll
Speaker 1: be a great card again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, just before you leave, why do you think
Speaker 3: you're not divorced yet?
Speaker 1: Oh? Great question. I really really like my husband as
Speaker 1: a human being. Like it's been hard. There's been times
Speaker 1: whay I hate him. There's been times.
Speaker 4: Where we've had pretty big fights. There's been years where
Speaker 4: it was like not great, you know, but like he's
Speaker 4: such a good person. He's so calming. He's really a
Speaker 4: champion for me and and I like, really we have
Speaker 4: the same outlook on life, Like we enjoy the doing
Speaker 4: the same things. Like he's not a big drinker. I'm
Speaker 4: not a big drinker. Like he's not a club guy.
Speaker 4: I'm not a club guy. Like, you know, it's like
Speaker 4: we have the same we want the same things out
Speaker 4: of our lives.
Speaker 1: But I just like like him as a human being,
Speaker 1: even if he was like burnt in an accident, Like
Speaker 1: I would still like him like his human even if
Speaker 1: I wasn't, Like, even if his beautiful blue eyes could
Speaker 1: never open again, I would be like, I still like
Speaker 1: you as a human But he has.
Speaker 4: Flaws, right, we all do, you know. But it's like
Speaker 4: like you know, it's like you're like, like you guys
Speaker 4: have a good life together. Yeah, you like experience life.
Speaker 4: And I went and like listened to our wedding that
Speaker 4: was for the first time in ten years because I'm
Speaker 4: gonna post them on our anniversary. I hadn't seen them
Speaker 4: since we did them, and I was like, still tracks
Speaker 4: everything we said. Yeah, still tracks one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: That's nice. Oh you're gonna get married? Yeah this is
Speaker 1: the one. Oh yeah, I mean I know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not sure when though.
Speaker 4: It's you know what. But here's the thing. Sorry, this
Speaker 4: is such a long episode. I'm so sorry. I could
Speaker 4: just talk forever. You have to let him do the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I got really psycho because I really wanted to
Speaker 4: get engaged. And I remember standing outside the King's Gate
Speaker 4: to my husband and being like, if you like it,
Speaker 4: then you should put a ring on it.
Speaker 3: And it looks so obnoxious how I've been Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: you got a cell your roll?
Speaker 2: Yeah, cell your role.
Speaker 4: And because men they don't plan the wedding, they're never
Speaker 4: going to be surprised you ever. Again, like this is
Speaker 4: their shining moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very funny.
Speaker 3: So I like I've been wearing like a lot of
Speaker 3: white because I was like, I just want to wear white.
Speaker 2: When I think he's going to propose, I've been wearing a.
Speaker 4: So much wit no I saw in Paris. I was like,
Speaker 4: they're going to get engaged, right, She's wearing white every.
Speaker 2: Day, all white on my trip to Paris.
Speaker 1: So were you sad when you didn't get engaged?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sad, but I didn't like the trip
Speaker 3: wasn't ruined because of it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like I didn't let it ruin the trip.
Speaker 2: But it's so funny. Beca is her big thing.
Speaker 3: Is She's like, I really really need Robbie to propose
Speaker 3: when you're not wearing white, Like I just really want
Speaker 3: him to like totally catch you off guard. And I
Speaker 3: was like, well, then he's going to do it like
Speaker 3: the hair salon or something, because I'm always on guard.
Speaker 1: No, Like I saw your nails are nicely done, like
Speaker 1: it's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My husband told me we were going to dinner. I
Speaker 4: thought there was all these events that I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: this is it, this is it. Yeah, he told me, oh,
Speaker 4: we're going to our friend's house for dinner. And I
Speaker 4: was wearing leggings and a Nirvana T shirt, no makeup
Speaker 4: and an ugly Urban Outfitters, yellow cardigan, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 4: the front door is not Let's go round back so
Speaker 4: we don't wake the kids. And I went around back
Speaker 4: and it was all decorated and that's when you propose.
Speaker 4: I had no idea and it was the best.
Speaker 3: So chill leggings an a Nirvanisher. Yeah, I still have
Speaker 3: the Nirvanasher.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is very fitting, but you got
Speaker 1: to chill out, you enjoy your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you decided after our trip in Paris.
Speaker 3: I was like, take the pressure off. No, I'm just
Speaker 3: he obviously has a plan. Who would not lock this down?
Speaker 2: He does have a plan. I know of course he
Speaker 2: has a plan. Just when is the plan?
Speaker 1: But the planet you have a long life together.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. Thank you for saying that you got this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got this.
Speaker 1: You got this, and it's going to be And you know,
Speaker 1: he's not a dummy. He'll film it. He's got this.
Speaker 1: He's got the photographer lockdown, like, he's not a dumb ass.
Speaker 1: He's got it right.
Speaker 2: No, he's not a dumb ass. But yeah, I have
Speaker 2: no literally got no idea, And.
Speaker 4: Let him surprise you, because forever you this is a
Speaker 4: man you're gonna have forever. It gets less and less surprises.
Speaker 2: And Kelty is one foot up the door and love
Speaker 2: you bye.
Speaker 1: I'm literally like, this is what I would like for
Speaker 1: my birthday link affiliate link to my own Amazon page,
Speaker 1: you know, like it gets really love gets boring.
Speaker 2: Okay, bye, love you, love you bye.