WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Guide Dogs Work 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.440 M Hey everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.200 s Y s K Selects, I've chosen how guide Dogs Work. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.440 It's a heartwarming look at some amazing animals that work 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.400 really really hard to help humans out and do some 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.759 extraordinarily amazing things. And keep an ear out for a 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.480 surprise appearance by the Globe of Death. Before we knew 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:33.640 it was called the Globe of Death. Enjoy. Welcome to 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:43.080 Stuff you should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.160 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, there's Chuck and 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.680 we hope we sound correct. Yes, yeah, what does that mean? Well, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.600 Jerry was looking at her putting the headphones up to 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.920 her tears, so like, she's not you paying attention to here. Basically, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.440 what you're saying is we have no quality control on 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.840 the onne right now. Well, no, we did, because Jerry 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.600 had the headphones up to her years. Yeah, now we don't. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.720 She checks and occasionally she wakes up and says, yeah, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:15.960 yeah what so Chuck, Yes, how's it going. It's going great? 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.760 How are you I'm doing good? Good? Um? Huh you 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.759 look well, thank you very much, healthy, fit, well, happy, 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:29.080 sun kissed, sun kissed. Yeah, I feeling good. Um, Chuck, 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:36.800 have you ever seen a guide dog a guy dog guide? Oh? Yeah, yeah, sure, 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.760 guide dogs see them all the time. Do you know 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.120 why they are also called seeing eye dogs are used 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:48.400 to be uh well, because guide dogs specifically, unlike the 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.920 general term service dogs, are to help guide around people 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.000 who cannot see. That is a pretty nice story, but 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.600 it's not entirely correct. And I had a feeling seeing 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.559 eye dogs were actually UM part of a company called 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:07.600 the Seeing Eye was the first American guide dog training company. Uh. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.440 And it wasn't the Americans who came up with training 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:15.919 guide dogs, it was actually the Germans UH. In Potsdam, Germany, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.079 the first UM guide dog training academy was set up 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.000 to help veterans that had been blinded in World War One. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.640 UM and it was successful. It didn't really take off, UM. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.000 But a woman, an American woman living in Switzerland. Her 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.959 name was Dorothy Harris Eustace. She was very wealthy American, 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.720 heard about this when visited the school and said this 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.880 is pretty awesome. Came back, waited a few years before 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.239 she got around to writing an article and it was 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:48.480 published in the Saturday Evening Post and a young uh, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:54.519 blind whipper snapper named um Norman Rockwell, No, his name 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.880 was Morris Frank. He heard about it and he got 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.880 in touch with Mrs Eustace and said, I would like 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.520 one of these dogs. Can you help me out? He said? 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.280 She said, not only will I help you out, I'm 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.440 gonna fly you to pot Stamp, to Switzerland. Actually you're 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.800 going to be trained with a dog, and we can 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.919 give you ten thousand dollars to go start the first 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.960 school in America. So more's Frank took the took her 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.959 up on it, took the ten tho dollars and started 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:24.240 in Tennessee the Seeing Eye Dog School. So are you 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.600 saying that Seeing eye dogs are the cleanex of the 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.000 working service dog world? Is very apt? It's actually a 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.000 brand name. Interesting. I never knew that to see. He 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:36.760 asked how I liked this, and I said, nothing really 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.400 surprised me. It was a good article, but I wasn't surprised. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.400 And here you go surprising me right off the bat. Thanks. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.560 All right, guy dogs, let's get to it. Eight. Yeah, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.600 it's a pretty straightforward stuff, but it's neat to know 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.240 the details of things, like first of all, if you 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.400 ever see a guy dog, it's actually working and you 0:03:54.400 --> 0:04:00.480 should leave it alone. Yeah, that's um in my house. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.920 That's difficult with Emily. Yeah, you're really not supposed to 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.400 do that. I know, and she doesn't. But dude, she's 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.920 like a five year old like she will. I have 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.480 seen her fake like she's going to look for something 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.720 and just brush up her hand against the dog's head, 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.280 like in a store, like let me go look at 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.240 the cereal, and she'll just brush up and be like, said, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.560 didn't mean to bet your your guide dogs. She's like 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.680 a frauder. She's like a frauderist for guide dogs. Yeah. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.880 Basically is that people who rub up against yourself in public? Yeah, yeah, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.760 she can't help it. Dude, when she sees a dog, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:38.840 she's like she cannot not touch her. So and it's understandable, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.279 especially with guide dogs. Why Emily would do that because 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:46.040 it's like dogs and then five echelons up guide dogs, right, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.960 not only are they dogs, which are great animals to 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.799 begin with, but they're dogs that actually help not only 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.600 just regular people, but people who can't see. So it's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.040 like you just want a petal and be like, here's 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.479 the greatest thing on the planet and they look sad, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.279 which makes you want to pet him even more. But people, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.640 they are not sad. They are working and they're delighted 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.279 to be working. Because if they're not delighted to be working, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.640 they wouldn't be guide dogs. They wouldn't make it through 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.560 the process. That's exactly right. So that's not to say 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.880 that you can never um touch a guide dog. Normally 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.039 you want to leave them alone. Just rubbily gets to 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.360 the story, right, But um, if you really can't resist 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.039 the urge Emily, UM, you can ask the handler, the 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.960 guy dog owner, the person who the guy dog is assisting, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.599 if you compet their dog that way, they can say 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.880 not really, he's really concentrating now, or no, you can 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.479 go ahead and pet them, and then the owner knows 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.679 that now he needs to get the dog back into 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.840 his concentration working mode after he's been petted. Okay, that's 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:52.320 rule number one. Okay. Guide dogs are rule number two. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.600 Typically allowed anywhere the general public is allowed, because if 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.320 they're not, then you're saying, oh no, only people who 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.400 can see are out into these public areas exactly, which 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.920 is one of the best things about him and why 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.039 you want you know, why Emily wants to rub up 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.479 against them? Because she's like, well, I'm in a library 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.640 and there's a dog. This is a bonus, right, you know, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.000 it's a great library. Um. The thing is is, since 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.080 they're allowed anywhere and their dog, and because there's people 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.640 like Emily walking around who wanted to pet them all 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.400 the time, the dog gets up to the dog rather 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.240 than Emily to decide, like, let's keep things professional here, right, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.120 I'm not going to create any kind of ruckus or disturbance. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.279 So the dog has to be extraordinarily well trained, um 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.200 to concentrate, and what it's concentrating on is a certain 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:43.480 prescribed set of things, specifically how to take a direct 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:48.720 route um. And to stay in front of and just 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.120 to the left of the handler yep, at a steady pace. Yep. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.000 You don't want a dog that like runs some and 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.839 then stops to smell and eat poop and then runs again. Uh. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.680 The biggest, I would say, probably easily the biggest thing 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.719 a guy dog must do is have complete mastery of 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:11.000 the intersection in the crosswalk. Yeah, that's really where I mean. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.520 Stairs and cliffs and things like that are important, but 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.160 the crosswalk in the intersection is when it comes down 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.120 to brass tacks. That's the most important thing that a 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.160 guy dog needs to know how to do perfectly right 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.239 in the free time. The way that guide dog trainers 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.000 have established. Um. The importance of this is a guy 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.320 dogs are taught universally to stop at every curb. Yeah, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:32.880 and that's a good way to I mean, you should 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.600 train your dog to do that anyway. I was thinking, Chuck, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.840 if you can get your hands on a training manual 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.520 for a guy dog, just use that. You could use 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.880 that for any dog and you have like a super 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.800 terrific a one dog. Yeah, I bet you could. Uh, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.600 that sounds like a service Josh is a one dogs 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:54.000 and finger printing powder. Um. Yeah, that's a good point. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.680 And that's a good way to train a dog anyway. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.280 Like I said, you don't want your dog pulling you 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.160 into an intersection, even if you can see. Um. But 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.320 back to guide dogs, that is the most important thing. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.559 They have to stop at every curb, sit and while 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.960 they're sitting. And like I said, these aren't just service dogs, 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.960 because there's other dogs. If you have like epilepsy or 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.360 if you're in a wheelchair. Sometimes these are specifically for 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.480 the blind. Um. But they'll come to an intersection and 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.400 they work together as a unit. It's um, the dog 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.600 stops and the blind person listens. They listen for traffic 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.320 and they listen for traffic stopping, and then they tell 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.800 the dog, all right, now we can go forward in 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.560 in the intersection. But here's the cool thing, and this 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.400 is I think the coolest thing in this article about 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.679 guide dogs that the dog doesn't just say okay, let's go. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.960 The dogs as well, you're saying it's okay, but you 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.720 can't see, so why don't you let me decide for 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.760 sure if it's okay. If there's a car coming, even 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.360 if the handler says move forward, the dog won't do it. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.839 The dog will wait, wait until whatever hazard is coming 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.960 is cleared, and then we'll follow the man. It's called 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.720 selective disobedience. Yes, it's pretty spectacular. Yeah. When I lived 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.800 in l A in my first apartment, I lived across 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.520 from my I don't know if it was a dog 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.160 training school or if it was just a school for 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.160 the blind, but all the traffic lights around me made noises. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.760 Oh yeah, like wait, no, it was that would be good. Actually, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.479 it was just like these sounds, like these ticking sounds 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.960 that they knew. Oh yeah, they knew what it meant 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.080 or go there's even better. There's one's by Umi's in 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.679 my house that say wait when you press the button, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:37.000 wait and then I'll say, um, what what street light 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.280 is now red? And what street you can cross depending 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.600 on where the intersection is. Is that just a new 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:47.280 thing or is it near dogs voice? Sounds pretty futuristic. No, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:48.920 but is it tied to the blind or is it 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.280 just Yeah? I think it's what it's for, um, because yeah, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:59.880 it directs you, um, verbally across what street you can take? Right? Wait? Wait, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.920 And it's funny because you can press the button a 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.880 few times will be like wait, wait, wait, wait, that's 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.000 kind of fun. I'm sure you've never done that though, right, Well, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.920 what else is there to do while you're waiting for 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.760 a crosswalk? Life? Jay walk? That's right, you can get 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.880 a ticket for that in Los Angeles, by the way, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.760 it's a way of life. In New York. Yeah, don't 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.920 do it that way. Um. Another thing the dog has 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:28.160 to do is to know how to um bring the 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:34.559 the handler to an elevator button instead of elevator buttons. Um, yes, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.880 stop its stairs at the bottom and the top until 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.400 told what to do. Um. Lie there quietly when the 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.200 handler is sitting wherever the handler is. That's a big one. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.360 Like like part of being a guide dog is you 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.400 just have to just cut out all of the other 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.440 distractions that would drive any other dog bonkers, um and 0:10:55.520 --> 0:11:01.200 just sit there because the first time guide dog acts 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.600 like a regular dog in a public setting. A guy 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.040 dogs everywhere have a bad name, that's right, you know, well, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.640 and that's why they look sad to me. Like what 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.000 I used to take Martha, and there was a guy 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.439 dog frequently on the way home um with this lady, 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.080 and uh, the dog would just lay down under the 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.480 you know seat on the subway and just look so sad. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.439 But I always had to tell myself, this dog is 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.680 not sad. When that harness comes off, it's playtime. Were 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.960 you saying that with like tear stream, I might have 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:36.480 teared up so Um. Like we said, they work as 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.560 a team. It's not the handler just giving orders and 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.200 it's not the dog just carrying out orders. They have 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.960 to work together, um because they the dog doesn't know 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.640 where to go, that's the handler's job, and the handler 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.760 doesn't know when to go or yeah, what obstacles are 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.960 coming up? Exactly put the two together, you got a 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.000 pretty great team. That's right. You have the makings of 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:03.720 a fine sitcom. So, Um, like you said, after hours 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.800 after they're working, when the harnesses on the dogs at work, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.160 it's concentrating and knows everything to do. When the harness 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.360 is off, it's just like any other dog. It's belly 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.520 rub time. Right. A guy dog is both, um, a 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.480 service dog and the family pet too, that's right. So 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:24.160 really genuinely don't feel like bad for service animals when 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.360 you see them out in public. Like, they're treated just 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.520 as well and even better than other dogs back at home, 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.679 And from what I understand, they're really enjoying themselves because 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:41.240 they're like concentrating, their stimulated, they're going places. They're just 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.200 like sitting at home, you know, all day waiting for 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.199 you know, their owner to come home and let them 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.239 out for a half hour on a leash. Yeah, exactly. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:51.880 So there's a lot of a lot of people who 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.439 believe that guy dogs leave far more fulfilling lives than 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.800 the average house dog. Yeah, well dogs, it depends on 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.720 the breed, but in general, dogs have jobs, and if 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.560 you have a poorly behaved dog, that means it's probably 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.600 a breed that wants a job that doesn't have one, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.880 or you just got a lemon, like one of our 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.760 dogs is really bad. Lucy's terrible. She's thirteen and she's 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.360 still bad. Well, she was red to be a card dealer. Well, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.520 we haven't taken her to Vegas in a long time. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.080 She was. She is a catahula though, and they're they're 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:29.240 hurting dogs, and she she needs a job. Basically, she's 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.080 never had a job. So her job has been to 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.600 poop in the house and to eat books and furniture 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.600 and stuff like that. Wait, what kind of job are 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.040 they supposed to do? Well, the catahoulas were hurds, like 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.920 she heard hers and things. Does she hurd you guys 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.160 around the house? Like? Does she try to make sure 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.040 you're all in the same room at the same time? 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:51.959 Or uh no no? Um, all right, so let's talk 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:57.080 about the process of schooling a guide dog. Um. They're 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.720 usually free. They will pair people well up, they're they're 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.880 generally nonprofits who run on donations. Yeah, if you wanted 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.400 to feel even better about people like guide dogs schools, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.040 it's free. Yeah, you don't have to pay two thousand 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.880 dollars for your well trained guide dog. They will pair 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.560 you as a person that can't see, with a great 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.920 dog for no charge in general, although there could be 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.680 a lot of money in that you started a private 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.680 one Josh's Dogs. Sure you could get a free one, 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.200 but if you want to really give one, you have 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.960 to pay for it. Um. So, these the schools are 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.680 set up and pretty much handled the whole process from 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:42.080 soup to nuts, which includes breeding them sometimes and if 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.920 they're like really great guide dogs, they might go into 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.520 a breeding program afterwards. I have the impression that most, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.920 like major guide dog schools, handled their own breeding. Yeah, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.840 probably so. Um. They arrange the puppy raising programs, which 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.320 is where it all starts, which we'll get into in 0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:00.000 a minute. They evaluate these dogs along the way, they 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.920 train them. Once they're ready, they train the instructors, they 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.040 train the handlers, They match the dog with the handler, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:11.000 reevaluate them after a while, and eventually retire the dogs, 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.560 which is very sad and happy, which we'll we'll get 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.400 to that too. That's at the end. But you're talking 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:22.040 Golden retrievers labs. German shepherds are generally who you're going 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:27.400 to see because they're all whip smart and generally pretty nice, loyal, obedient, training, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.760 very trainable, and confident too. That's a one of the 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.000 A number one again qualities of UM a guide dog 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:40.960 is self confidence. UM. And that self confidence is UM 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.040 built up as a puppy. That's one of the main 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.960 things in a guide dog in training or pre training 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:56.320 puppy guide dog raising person. Yeah, they who I think 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.880 Alicia Hoyt wrote this. She interviewed, Um, No, this is 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.520 a Tom Harris joint. Was it okay? Tom interviewed someone 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.120 at a place called Guiding Eyes for the Blind in 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.200 New Yorktown Heights, New York. And we're gonna be referencing 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.800 them a lot as far as or that's who we're 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.360 talking about when we throw out some of these common stats, UM, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.960 like of the original puppies aren't suitable for to even 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.720 enter the program, Like they start weeding them out really early. UM. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.440 They sell them as pets if they're not, you know, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.240 if they're part of that, or they may just not be. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.360 They may be okay for service dogs but not good 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.640 for guide dogging, so they'll um maybe send them to 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.320 another organization that will help people like with epileps here 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:40.280 in a wheelchair or something. Um. The ones that do 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.280 make it though, the ones that are like, Okay, you're 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.280 six week old puppy, and we can tell already that 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:50.400 you are probably going to be worth a shot, so 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.320 we're gonna send you into into training school, pre training school. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.640 Puppy raising is what it's called. With just regular people 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.320 like you can go out and do this. Is if 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.040 you have the time, and you have the patients, and 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.280 you have the resources, you can actually get puppies to 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.720 the point where a year later you will then turn 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.200 them back over to a proper school a year to 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.520 a year and a half depending Um. And along the way, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.240 you're you're going to be trained on how to raise 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.480 a puppy according to the standards of the school. Um. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.200 They're not just gonna say here's a puppy, don't screw 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:30.000 it up. Um. There's usually weekly, monthly, quarterly meetings with 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.040 other puppy raisers where all the puppies get together to 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.199 ensure their socialized update things to make sure everybody's on 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:40.560 the same page with raising their puppies so that there's evaluations. Um. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.840 And uh, Like we said that what they're trying to 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.120 do is they're not training the puppies at all. The 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.719 main point of puppy raising is to start to set up, um, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.400 how a puppy can become confident, make it feel good 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.960 about itself. And I take that back. They are training 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.560 himself to train them in the base su sit, stay, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.520 lay down, that kind of thing. Yeah, nothing advanced, just 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.879 good basic obedience exactly there. And then they're also getting 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.960 the puppies used to the idea of training for extended 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.240 periods of time on a daily basis. Um. And they're 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.280 doing that by taking the dog all over the place 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.760 anywhere that they can get a dog into. They're going 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.200 to take this dog to expose it to new, um, 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.720 new experiences every week. Yeah, and after um, a certain 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.960 amount of time, they'll get their little coat that says 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.520 I'm a puppy dog in training. Very cute little situation there, 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.800 and uh, that's when they can really take it anywhere 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.439 they want to go. Um, as I understand it, not 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:44.280 necessarily like well, by law, yeah, right, by law you can't. 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.800 You're supposed to ask. But for the most part, it's like, yeah, 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.760 but socialization is a big deal. Um. Like you said, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.200 they tried to expose puppies to at least five new 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:59.000 experiences a week. So um, everything from other dogs being around, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.240 to being in a shop mall to going to jim 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.320 Boree and having screaming kids, you know, throwing their poop 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.840 all over the place. Actually, I don't know if I'd 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.440 take a puppy to be trained to gimperate. Probably it's 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:16.119 probably like the proving ground, yeah, if they can ignore that. Um. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.119 But basically what they want to do is develop a 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.359 good relationship with a dog, which will eventually transfer to 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.800 their handler. And we're talking about learning obedience, like just 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:31.640 basic obedience. Um. All guide dogs are taught not with treats. 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.640 And there's a very very good reason why you don't 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.960 want to teach a dog with treats because if you 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.280 have a guide dog, that's like food is a reward, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.280 and I think a lot about food. As a matter 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.119 of fact, you could say I'm fixated on food that 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.080 your dog boys. Yeah, and you take that guy dog 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.879 into like a diner or a Nathan's, that guy dog's 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.160 gonna have some real problems concentrating. Yeah. So you use 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.600 a praise and then correction through like just a tug 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:04.600 on a leash. Yeah, the typical like Caesar Milan stuff Yeah, 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:06.920 one of those two. I saw one the other day 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.959 where he was training a dude. He was scared of dogs. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.199 An adult, he had grown kids, he was like in 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.520 his probably late forties, and he was still frightened of dogs. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.639 And it was like every stupid episode of that show, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:27.639 very emotional. Well, it's that music is pretty mane up 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:38.640 right at the right time. That's why sks should know 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:54.680 st um. So wait, hold on, Chuck. Yeah, I think 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.120 we should do a little public service for our listeners 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.560 out there and teach them. Yeah, the wi Is Bang 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.639 a one no fail method of house breaking a dog 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.120 in as little as one day. All right, let's hear it. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:10.680 Do you want me to Yeah, I've had my me. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.000 My dog poops every day and eats it herself, so 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.560 I've done a poor job. Luckily peace when it thunders. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.239 Do you have a thunder shirt for him? Yeah, I got, 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.160 we call it thunder Buddy. It helps a little bit. 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.800 But if we're not home and it's thundering, he'll he'll pee. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.840 Do you give him sedatives or anything? No, it's just 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.720 you know, I just clean up the pakay Alright. So 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.760 if you have a puppy, yeah, they say you can't 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:35.600 teach an old dog new tricks. I don't know if 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.840 that's true or not, But with a puppy it's easier. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.480 I think that should be you can't teach an old 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.200 dog new tricks comma, I don't know if that's true 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.760 or not, semi colon. With a puppy, it's easier. That 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.280 should be the full adage. That's the A one slogan. 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.640 So you take you take your puppy outside once an hour, 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.040 pretty much, and you take them to the same place outside, 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:03.199 and you wait, wait until they finally start to go, 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.360 and when they go, you say, puppy's name, insert it here, 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.919 do your thing, yeah, or whatever you choose to say, 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.280 and then you praise that dog like it just saved 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.760 your life. And then the next time you take the 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.040 dog out again, and you wait. You do that a 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.119 couple of times, and then maybe by the third or 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.280 fourth time, you take the dog out to the same 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.320 place and you say, puppy, do your thing, and that 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.760 dog will probably pier poop on command for the rest 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.119 of its life. Yeah, I say, go potty, and it 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:40.160 works still, especially when it's thundering, Go potty. He's like, dude, perfect. 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.760 And again The reason why you want a dog to 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.800 that will only pier poop on command is because again, 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.680 you can't have a guide dog pooping in public because 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.760 people be like, well, what's we need to legislate guide dogs? 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.760 You dog poop in a library? Yeah exactly. This lady 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.720 over here is rubbing against the dog while it's pooping. Yeah. Plus, 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.000 you know you don't want your dog taking a big 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:07.280 dump in front of Forever twenty one because little kids 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:11.679 at them all will be turned off by that. Uh So, 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.560