1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: M Hey everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: s Y s K Selects, I've chosen how guide Dogs Work. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: It's a heartwarming look at some amazing animals that work 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: really really hard to help humans out and do some 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: extraordinarily amazing things. And keep an ear out for a 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: surprise appearance by the Globe of Death. Before we knew 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: it was called the Globe of Death. Enjoy. Welcome to 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Stuff you should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, there's Chuck and 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: we hope we sound correct. Yes, yeah, what does that mean? Well, 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Jerry was looking at her putting the headphones up to 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: her tears, so like, she's not you paying attention to here. Basically, 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: what you're saying is we have no quality control on 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: the onne right now. Well, no, we did, because Jerry 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: had the headphones up to her years. Yeah, now we don't. 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: She checks and occasionally she wakes up and says, yeah, 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: yeah what so Chuck, Yes, how's it going. It's going great? 18 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: How are you I'm doing good? Good? Um? Huh you 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: look well, thank you very much, healthy, fit, well, happy, 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: sun kissed, sun kissed. Yeah, I feeling good. Um, Chuck, 21 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: have you ever seen a guide dog a guy dog guide? Oh? Yeah, yeah, sure, 22 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: guide dogs see them all the time. Do you know 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: why they are also called seeing eye dogs are used 24 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: to be uh well, because guide dogs specifically, unlike the 25 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: general term service dogs, are to help guide around people 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: who cannot see. That is a pretty nice story, but 27 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: it's not entirely correct. And I had a feeling seeing 28 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: eye dogs were actually UM part of a company called 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: the Seeing Eye was the first American guide dog training company. Uh. 30 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: And it wasn't the Americans who came up with training 31 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: guide dogs, it was actually the Germans UH. In Potsdam, Germany, 32 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: the first UM guide dog training academy was set up 33 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: to help veterans that had been blinded in World War One. 34 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: UM and it was successful. It didn't really take off, UM. 35 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: But a woman, an American woman living in Switzerland. Her 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: name was Dorothy Harris Eustace. She was very wealthy American, 37 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: heard about this when visited the school and said this 38 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: is pretty awesome. Came back, waited a few years before 39 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: she got around to writing an article and it was 40 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: published in the Saturday Evening Post and a young uh, 41 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: blind whipper snapper named um Norman Rockwell, No, his name 42 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: was Morris Frank. He heard about it and he got 43 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: in touch with Mrs Eustace and said, I would like 44 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: one of these dogs. Can you help me out? He said? 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: She said, not only will I help you out, I'm 46 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna fly you to pot Stamp, to Switzerland. Actually you're 47 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: going to be trained with a dog, and we can 48 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: give you ten thousand dollars to go start the first 49 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: school in America. So more's Frank took the took her 50 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: up on it, took the ten tho dollars and started 51 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: in Tennessee the Seeing Eye Dog School. So are you 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: saying that Seeing eye dogs are the cleanex of the 53 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: working service dog world? Is very apt? It's actually a 54 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: brand name. Interesting. I never knew that to see. He 55 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: asked how I liked this, and I said, nothing really 56 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: surprised me. It was a good article, but I wasn't surprised. 57 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: And here you go surprising me right off the bat. Thanks. 58 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: All right, guy dogs, let's get to it. Eight. Yeah, 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: it's a pretty straightforward stuff, but it's neat to know 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the details of things, like first of all, if you 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: ever see a guy dog, it's actually working and you 62 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: should leave it alone. Yeah, that's um in my house. 63 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: That's difficult with Emily. Yeah, you're really not supposed to 64 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: do that. I know, and she doesn't. But dude, she's 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: like a five year old like she will. I have 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: seen her fake like she's going to look for something 67 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: and just brush up her hand against the dog's head, 68 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: like in a store, like let me go look at 69 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the cereal, and she'll just brush up and be like, said, 70 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't mean to bet your your guide dogs. She's like 71 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: a frauder. She's like a frauderist for guide dogs. Yeah. 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Basically is that people who rub up against yourself in public? Yeah, yeah, 73 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: she can't help it. Dude, when she sees a dog, 74 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: she's like she cannot not touch her. So and it's understandable, 75 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: especially with guide dogs. Why Emily would do that because 76 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: it's like dogs and then five echelons up guide dogs, right, 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: not only are they dogs, which are great animals to 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: begin with, but they're dogs that actually help not only 79 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: just regular people, but people who can't see. So it's 80 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: like you just want a petal and be like, here's 81 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: the greatest thing on the planet and they look sad, 82 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: which makes you want to pet him even more. But people, 83 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: they are not sad. They are working and they're delighted 84 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: to be working. Because if they're not delighted to be working, 85 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be guide dogs. They wouldn't make it through 86 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: the process. That's exactly right. So that's not to say 87 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: that you can never um touch a guide dog. Normally 88 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: you want to leave them alone. Just rubbily gets to 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: the story, right, But um, if you really can't resist 90 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: the urge Emily, UM, you can ask the handler, the 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: guy dog owner, the person who the guy dog is assisting, 92 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: if you compet their dog that way, they can say 93 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: not really, he's really concentrating now, or no, you can 94 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: go ahead and pet them, and then the owner knows 95 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: that now he needs to get the dog back into 96 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: his concentration working mode after he's been petted. Okay, that's 97 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: rule number one. Okay. Guide dogs are rule number two. 98 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: Typically allowed anywhere the general public is allowed, because if 99 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: they're not, then you're saying, oh no, only people who 100 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: can see are out into these public areas exactly, which 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: is one of the best things about him and why 102 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: you want you know, why Emily wants to rub up 103 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: against them? Because she's like, well, I'm in a library 104 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: and there's a dog. This is a bonus, right, you know, 105 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: it's a great library. Um. The thing is is, since 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: they're allowed anywhere and their dog, and because there's people 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: like Emily walking around who wanted to pet them all 108 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: the time, the dog gets up to the dog rather 109 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: than Emily to decide, like, let's keep things professional here, right, 110 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to create any kind of ruckus or disturbance. 111 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: So the dog has to be extraordinarily well trained, um 112 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: to concentrate, and what it's concentrating on is a certain 113 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: prescribed set of things, specifically how to take a direct 114 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: route um. And to stay in front of and just 115 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: to the left of the handler yep, at a steady pace. Yep. 116 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: You don't want a dog that like runs some and 117 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: then stops to smell and eat poop and then runs again. Uh. 118 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: The biggest, I would say, probably easily the biggest thing 119 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: a guy dog must do is have complete mastery of 120 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the intersection in the crosswalk. Yeah, that's really where I mean. 121 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Stairs and cliffs and things like that are important, but 122 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: the crosswalk in the intersection is when it comes down 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: to brass tacks. That's the most important thing that a 124 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: guy dog needs to know how to do perfectly right 125 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: in the free time. The way that guide dog trainers 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: have established. Um. The importance of this is a guy 127 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: dogs are taught universally to stop at every curb. Yeah, 128 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: and that's a good way to I mean, you should 129 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: train your dog to do that anyway. I was thinking, Chuck, 130 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: if you can get your hands on a training manual 131 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: for a guy dog, just use that. You could use 132 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: that for any dog and you have like a super 133 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: terrific a one dog. Yeah, I bet you could. Uh, 134 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: that sounds like a service Josh is a one dogs 135 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: and finger printing powder. Um. Yeah, that's a good point. 136 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: And that's a good way to train a dog anyway. 137 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Like I said, you don't want your dog pulling you 138 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: into an intersection, even if you can see. Um. But 139 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: back to guide dogs, that is the most important thing. 140 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: They have to stop at every curb, sit and while 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: they're sitting. And like I said, these aren't just service dogs, 142 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: because there's other dogs. If you have like epilepsy or 143 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: if you're in a wheelchair. Sometimes these are specifically for 144 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: the blind. Um. But they'll come to an intersection and 145 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: they work together as a unit. It's um, the dog 146 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: stops and the blind person listens. They listen for traffic 147 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: and they listen for traffic stopping, and then they tell 148 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: the dog, all right, now we can go forward in 149 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: in the intersection. But here's the cool thing, and this 150 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: is I think the coolest thing in this article about 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: guide dogs that the dog doesn't just say okay, let's go. 152 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: The dogs as well, you're saying it's okay, but you 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: can't see, so why don't you let me decide for 154 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: sure if it's okay. If there's a car coming, even 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: if the handler says move forward, the dog won't do it. 156 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: The dog will wait, wait until whatever hazard is coming 157 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: is cleared, and then we'll follow the man. It's called 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: selective disobedience. Yes, it's pretty spectacular. Yeah. When I lived 159 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: in l A in my first apartment, I lived across 160 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: from my I don't know if it was a dog 161 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: training school or if it was just a school for 162 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: the blind, but all the traffic lights around me made noises. 163 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like wait, no, it was that would be good. Actually, 164 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,479 Speaker 1: it was just like these sounds, like these ticking sounds 165 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: that they knew. Oh yeah, they knew what it meant 166 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: or go there's even better. There's one's by Umi's in 167 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: my house that say wait when you press the button, 168 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: wait and then I'll say, um, what what street light 169 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: is now red? And what street you can cross depending 170 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: on where the intersection is. Is that just a new 171 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: thing or is it near dogs voice? Sounds pretty futuristic. No, 172 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: but is it tied to the blind or is it 173 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: just Yeah? I think it's what it's for, um, because yeah, 174 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: it directs you, um, verbally across what street you can take? Right? Wait? Wait, 175 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: And it's funny because you can press the button a 176 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: few times will be like wait, wait, wait, wait, that's 177 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of fun. I'm sure you've never done that though, right, Well, 178 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: what else is there to do while you're waiting for 179 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: a crosswalk? Life? Jay walk? That's right, you can get 180 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: a ticket for that in Los Angeles, by the way, 181 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: it's a way of life. In New York. Yeah, don't 182 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: do it that way. Um. Another thing the dog has 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: to do is to know how to um bring the 184 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: the handler to an elevator button instead of elevator buttons. Um, yes, 185 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: stop its stairs at the bottom and the top until 186 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: told what to do. Um. Lie there quietly when the 187 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: handler is sitting wherever the handler is. That's a big one. 188 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Like like part of being a guide dog is you 189 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: just have to just cut out all of the other 190 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: distractions that would drive any other dog bonkers, um and 191 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: just sit there because the first time guide dog acts 192 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: like a regular dog in a public setting. A guy 193 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: dogs everywhere have a bad name, that's right, you know, well, 194 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's why they look sad to me. Like what 195 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I used to take Martha, and there was a guy 196 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: dog frequently on the way home um with this lady, 197 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: and uh, the dog would just lay down under the 198 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you know seat on the subway and just look so sad. 199 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: But I always had to tell myself, this dog is 200 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: not sad. When that harness comes off, it's playtime. Were 201 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: you saying that with like tear stream, I might have 202 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: teared up so Um. Like we said, they work as 203 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: a team. It's not the handler just giving orders and 204 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: it's not the dog just carrying out orders. They have 205 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: to work together, um because they the dog doesn't know 206 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: where to go, that's the handler's job, and the handler 207 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: doesn't know when to go or yeah, what obstacles are 208 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: coming up? Exactly put the two together, you got a 209 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: pretty great team. That's right. You have the makings of 210 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: a fine sitcom. So, Um, like you said, after hours 211 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: after they're working, when the harnesses on the dogs at work, 212 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: it's concentrating and knows everything to do. When the harness 213 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: is off, it's just like any other dog. It's belly 214 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: rub time. Right. A guy dog is both, um, a 215 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: service dog and the family pet too, that's right. So 216 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: really genuinely don't feel like bad for service animals when 217 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: you see them out in public. Like, they're treated just 218 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: as well and even better than other dogs back at home, 219 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: And from what I understand, they're really enjoying themselves because 220 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: they're like concentrating, their stimulated, they're going places. They're just 221 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: like sitting at home, you know, all day waiting for 222 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: you know, their owner to come home and let them 223 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,239 Speaker 1: out for a half hour on a leash. Yeah, exactly. 224 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of a lot of people who 225 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: believe that guy dogs leave far more fulfilling lives than 226 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: the average house dog. Yeah, well dogs, it depends on 227 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: the breed, but in general, dogs have jobs, and if 228 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: you have a poorly behaved dog, that means it's probably 229 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: a breed that wants a job that doesn't have one, 230 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: or you just got a lemon, like one of our 231 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: dogs is really bad. Lucy's terrible. She's thirteen and she's 232 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: still bad. Well, she was red to be a card dealer. Well, 233 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: we haven't taken her to Vegas in a long time. 234 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: She was. She is a catahula though, and they're they're 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: hurting dogs, and she she needs a job. Basically, she's 236 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: never had a job. So her job has been to 237 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: poop in the house and to eat books and furniture 238 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Wait, what kind of job are 239 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: they supposed to do? Well, the catahoulas were hurds, like 240 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: she heard hers and things. Does she hurd you guys 241 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: around the house? Like? Does she try to make sure 242 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you're all in the same room at the same time? 243 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: Or uh no no? Um, all right, so let's talk 244 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: about the process of schooling a guide dog. Um. They're 245 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: usually free. They will pair people well up, they're they're 246 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: generally nonprofits who run on donations. Yeah, if you wanted 247 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: to feel even better about people like guide dogs schools, 248 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: it's free. Yeah, you don't have to pay two thousand 249 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: dollars for your well trained guide dog. They will pair 250 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: you as a person that can't see, with a great 251 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: dog for no charge in general, although there could be 252 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of money in that you started a private 253 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: one Josh's Dogs. Sure you could get a free one, 254 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: but if you want to really give one, you have 255 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: to pay for it. Um. So, these the schools are 256 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: set up and pretty much handled the whole process from 257 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: soup to nuts, which includes breeding them sometimes and if 258 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: they're like really great guide dogs, they might go into 259 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: a breeding program afterwards. I have the impression that most, 260 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: like major guide dog schools, handled their own breeding. Yeah, 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: probably so. Um. They arrange the puppy raising programs, which 262 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: is where it all starts, which we'll get into in 263 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: a minute. They evaluate these dogs along the way, they 264 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: train them. Once they're ready, they train the instructors, they 265 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: train the handlers, They match the dog with the handler, 266 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: reevaluate them after a while, and eventually retire the dogs, 267 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: which is very sad and happy, which we'll we'll get 268 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: to that too. That's at the end. But you're talking 269 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Golden retrievers labs. German shepherds are generally who you're going 270 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: to see because they're all whip smart and generally pretty nice, loyal, obedient, training, 271 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: very trainable, and confident too. That's a one of the 272 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: A number one again qualities of UM a guide dog 273 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: is self confidence. UM. And that self confidence is UM 274 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: built up as a puppy. That's one of the main 275 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: things in a guide dog in training or pre training 276 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: puppy guide dog raising person. Yeah, they who I think 277 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Alicia Hoyt wrote this. She interviewed, Um, No, this is 278 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: a Tom Harris joint. Was it okay? Tom interviewed someone 279 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: at a place called Guiding Eyes for the Blind in 280 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: New Yorktown Heights, New York. And we're gonna be referencing 281 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: them a lot as far as or that's who we're 282 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: talking about when we throw out some of these common stats, UM, 283 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: like of the original puppies aren't suitable for to even 284 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: enter the program, Like they start weeding them out really early. UM. 285 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: They sell them as pets if they're not, you know, 286 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: if they're part of that, or they may just not be. 287 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: They may be okay for service dogs but not good 288 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: for guide dogging, so they'll um maybe send them to 289 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: another organization that will help people like with epileps here 290 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: in a wheelchair or something. Um. The ones that do 291 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: make it though, the ones that are like, Okay, you're 292 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: six week old puppy, and we can tell already that 293 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: you are probably going to be worth a shot, so 294 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna send you into into training school, pre training school. 295 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Puppy raising is what it's called. With just regular people 296 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: like you can go out and do this. Is if 297 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: you have the time, and you have the patients, and 298 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: you have the resources, you can actually get puppies to 299 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: the point where a year later you will then turn 300 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: them back over to a proper school a year to 301 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: a year and a half depending Um. And along the way, 302 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: you're you're going to be trained on how to raise 303 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: a puppy according to the standards of the school. Um. 304 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: They're not just gonna say here's a puppy, don't screw 305 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: it up. Um. There's usually weekly, monthly, quarterly meetings with 306 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: other puppy raisers where all the puppies get together to 307 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: ensure their socialized update things to make sure everybody's on 308 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: the same page with raising their puppies so that there's evaluations. Um. 309 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: And uh, Like we said that what they're trying to 310 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: do is they're not training the puppies at all. The 311 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: main point of puppy raising is to start to set up, um, 312 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: how a puppy can become confident, make it feel good 313 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: about itself. And I take that back. They are training 314 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: himself to train them in the base su sit, stay, 315 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: lay down, that kind of thing. Yeah, nothing advanced, just 316 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: good basic obedience exactly there. And then they're also getting 317 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: the puppies used to the idea of training for extended 318 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: periods of time on a daily basis. Um. And they're 319 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: doing that by taking the dog all over the place 320 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: anywhere that they can get a dog into. They're going 321 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: to take this dog to expose it to new, um, 322 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: new experiences every week. Yeah, and after um, a certain 323 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: amount of time, they'll get their little coat that says 324 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm a puppy dog in training. Very cute little situation there, 325 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: and uh, that's when they can really take it anywhere 326 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: they want to go. Um, as I understand it, not 327 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: necessarily like well, by law, yeah, right, by law you can't. 328 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: You're supposed to ask. But for the most part, it's like, yeah, 329 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: but socialization is a big deal. Um. Like you said, 330 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: they tried to expose puppies to at least five new 331 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: experiences a week. So um, everything from other dogs being around, 332 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: to being in a shop mall to going to jim 333 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: Boree and having screaming kids, you know, throwing their poop 334 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. Actually, I don't know if I'd 335 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: take a puppy to be trained to gimperate. Probably it's 336 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: probably like the proving ground, yeah, if they can ignore that. Um. 337 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: But basically what they want to do is develop a 338 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: good relationship with a dog, which will eventually transfer to 339 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: their handler. And we're talking about learning obedience, like just 340 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: basic obedience. Um. All guide dogs are taught not with treats. 341 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: And there's a very very good reason why you don't 342 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: want to teach a dog with treats because if you 343 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: have a guide dog, that's like food is a reward, 344 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and I think a lot about food. As a matter 345 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: of fact, you could say I'm fixated on food that 346 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: your dog boys. Yeah, and you take that guy dog 347 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: into like a diner or a Nathan's, that guy dog's 348 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna have some real problems concentrating. Yeah. So you use 349 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: a praise and then correction through like just a tug 350 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: on a leash. Yeah, the typical like Caesar Milan stuff Yeah, 351 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: one of those two. I saw one the other day 352 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: where he was training a dude. He was scared of dogs. 353 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: An adult, he had grown kids, he was like in 354 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: his probably late forties, and he was still frightened of dogs. 355 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: And it was like every stupid episode of that show, 356 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: very emotional. Well, it's that music is pretty mane up 357 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: right at the right time. That's why sks should know 358 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: st um. So wait, hold on, Chuck. Yeah, I think 359 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: we should do a little public service for our listeners 360 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: out there and teach them. Yeah, the wi Is Bang 361 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: a one no fail method of house breaking a dog 362 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: in as little as one day. All right, let's hear it. 363 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: Do you want me to Yeah, I've had my me. 364 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: My dog poops every day and eats it herself, so 365 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I've done a poor job. Luckily peace when it thunders. 366 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: Do you have a thunder shirt for him? Yeah, I got, 367 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: we call it thunder Buddy. It helps a little bit. 368 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: But if we're not home and it's thundering, he'll he'll pee. 369 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Do you give him sedatives or anything? No, it's just 370 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, I just clean up the pakay Alright. So 371 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: if you have a puppy, yeah, they say you can't 372 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: teach an old dog new tricks. I don't know if 373 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: that's true or not, But with a puppy it's easier. 374 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: I think that should be you can't teach an old 375 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: dog new tricks comma, I don't know if that's true 376 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: or not, semi colon. With a puppy, it's easier. That 377 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: should be the full adage. That's the A one slogan. 378 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: So you take you take your puppy outside once an hour, 379 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: pretty much, and you take them to the same place outside, 380 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: and you wait, wait until they finally start to go, 381 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: and when they go, you say, puppy's name, insert it here, 382 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: do your thing, yeah, or whatever you choose to say, 383 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: and then you praise that dog like it just saved 384 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: your life. And then the next time you take the 385 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: dog out again, and you wait. You do that a 386 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: couple of times, and then maybe by the third or 387 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: fourth time, you take the dog out to the same 388 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: place and you say, puppy, do your thing, and that 389 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: dog will probably pier poop on command for the rest 390 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: of its life. Yeah, I say, go potty, and it 391 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: works still, especially when it's thundering, Go potty. He's like, dude, perfect. 392 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: And again The reason why you want a dog to 393 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: that will only pier poop on command is because again, 394 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: you can't have a guide dog pooping in public because 395 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: people be like, well, what's we need to legislate guide dogs? 396 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: You dog poop in a library? Yeah exactly. This lady 397 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: over here is rubbing against the dog while it's pooping. Yeah. Plus, 398 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: you know you don't want your dog taking a big 399 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: dump in front of Forever twenty one because little kids 400 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: at them all will be turned off by that. Uh So, 401 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: like you said, puppies are evaluated um every few months, 402 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: UM during training and um. Eventually, like we said, at 403 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: about the year a year and a half mark, the 404 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: saddest day ever happens and you have to take that 405 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: puppy that you raised and turned them over to a school. Um. 406 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: And they did an interview with a lady who raised 407 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: a dog named Sonar. Her name is Mary Kantando. Yeah, 408 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: and it sounds like she does this a lot, and 409 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: she had a really good attitude. She's like, here's I'll 410 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: look at it. I had three kids and I raised 411 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: them and eventually sent them out into the world, So 412 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this with this dog. And they provide 413 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: a service, and we don't look at it as losing 414 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: this dog. We look at it as like we've given 415 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: someone a gift of a well trained, uh puppy and 416 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: uh a lot of people will get another one right 417 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: after that and start all over again. Yeah. I think also, 418 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: once you prove yourself as an able and capable UM 419 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: guide dog puppy razor, like, they'll they'll keep coming back 420 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: every time to ask you if you wanted to do 421 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, and you may one day, actually maybe 422 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: one day soon get that dog back if it gets 423 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: kicked out of the program. Yeah, because like you said 424 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: right off, the bat aren't even aren't even trained as puppies. Um. 425 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: Of the ones that go through puppy training and are 426 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: brought back after eighteen months, fifty of those will just 427 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: be like turned down. Yeah. And a lot of times 428 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: they'll offer them back to the original puppy razor say, hey, 429 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: do you want this dog? Um, you failed? Would you 430 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: like the dog back as a token to commemorate your failure? 431 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: Or the sweetest thing ever, perhaps when that dog retires 432 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: you might get it back. Yeah. Usually if the person 433 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: who has the guide dog, yeah, the handler. The handler 434 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: can't because they need another guy dog after that one retires. 435 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: If they can't keep two dogs, keep the other one 436 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: as a pet, then I think you have first shot 437 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: if you raise it as a puppy. Yeah. Could you 438 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: imagine like raising this puppy, giving away and like ten 439 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: years later getting it back Christian a lion or something. Yeah, 440 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: you know that's right. Uh So, once your puppy has 441 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: been raised and it goes to regular school, um, they're 442 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: going to basically reinforce and train everything they've already learned 443 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: and then introduced like all the serious parts of schooling. 444 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: Like here's an intersection, here's a cliff, here stairs. A 445 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: lot of the schools have fake intersections built so they 446 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: can really you know, do like hands on training there 447 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: on the campus, right. And this is like intensive training. 448 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: This isn't like whenever some burnout who like lives at 449 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: the school gets around to it. Like, this is intensive training, 450 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: like every every day from multiple people, one of whom 451 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: the dog trainer, the master trainer is actually assisted by 452 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: other apprentice trainers. Um, and and like it's a very 453 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: intensive um months long training. Yeah, about six months, I think, Yeah, 454 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: And that's after a year to a year and a 455 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: half of puppy training. So by the time I Handlered, 456 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: uh gets it, that's you know, a couple of years old. Well, 457 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: not only is there. So there's puppy training, six months 458 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: of intensive dog school training, and then when the handlers 459 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: finally matched, there's a whole month where the handler and 460 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: the dog are trained together. And the matching process takes 461 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: a little while too. You know, they don't just throw 462 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: any dog with any person. That's got to be a 463 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: just like adopting any dog, it's gotta be a good 464 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: personality match for you. So, Chuck Water, let's go back 465 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: to dog training school. We got a little excited. Okay, 466 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: um school right, So, like you said, a lot of 467 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: places have their own intersections built simulated. Um. The first 468 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: step before they ever get to that point is learning 469 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to walk like a guy dog in a straight line, 470 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: a little forward ahead of the handler and slightly to 471 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: the left, up and to the left. One and this 472 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: is a big one. The guy dog has to be 473 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: taught to think of it's of the world in human size. Yeah, 474 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: dog's eye view any longer, but human size, because apparently 475 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: they pick up pretty easily, like, well, there's a garbage can, 476 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: I need to make a wide arc around the garbage 477 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: cancer that the guy I'm leading doesn't run into the 478 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: garbage can, But what about that narrow cravasse that I 479 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: can fit through no problem, But my blind guy is 480 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: a big fatty in the way he can fit through 481 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: their Look at this guy exactly, I'm gonna have to 482 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: go around the block because he can't go down this alleyway. Right. 483 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: A dog has to think in terms of of its 484 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: world like that, and that's that's enormous. To be able 485 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: to train something like that and for the dog to 486 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: be able to learn like that, that's just really my 487 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: hat is off, like over and over again. I'm just 488 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: not even putting it back on for the rest of 489 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: this episode. Uh Yeah, the one that really knocked me 490 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: out was the headroom. Like the dog, even though it's 491 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: two and a half feet off the ground, will be 492 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: able to look up and say, this guy might or 493 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: lady might bang her head on this low hanging beam. 494 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: I shouldn't go into the street and go in there 495 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: yet stay out of the sewer. So that's just amazing. 496 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Like the dog has to look up and know how 497 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: tall the owner is and gauge how low that beam is. Yeah, 498 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: unreal that matched again with the most spectacular thing in 499 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: the world. Selective disobedience. Yeah, um, stopping at all curbs, 500 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: all stairs, um, learning all of the commands, Uh, go 501 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: to the right, go to the left, forward you mean? 502 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: And I watched Short Circule last night. Holds up pretty well, um, 503 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: except that just as crappy as it was when it 504 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: was exactly the Fisher Stevens character. The Indian Programmer is 505 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: so racist contest because it's a white guy doing like 506 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: the worst Indian impression at Mickey Rooney and and what's 507 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: it called, I have no idea breakfast at Tiffany's. He 508 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: played Mr Moto or whatever the Chinese. Oh yeah, oh, 509 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: I have to watch that very famous racist portrayal. But anyway, 510 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: like Johnny do, they couldn't get Johnny five to to 511 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: come for Ali Shed. He couldn't until she stumbled upon forward. 512 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: She's like, come here, come this way, walk and he 513 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: was just standing there and she's like forward and he's like, oh, 514 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: forward goes forward. So guide dogs and sentient robots, you 515 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: have to stay forward from the eighties, all right, So 516 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: we said before of the puppies are weeded out off 517 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: the top, out of those puppies who go to school, 518 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: about fifty of those are kicked out of school. And 519 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: then finally once those were training or in school, only 520 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: about se those graduate, So they really weed out. To say, 521 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: out of four hundred dogs that go through puppy training, 522 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: you've got like a hundred and forty that can eventually 523 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: graduate and go on to be matched with a handler. Um. 524 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: And you know, there there are a few things that 525 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: will weed a dog out, even if they're pretty good. 526 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: If they're like aggressive towards cats or something, you know, 527 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: that'll weed them out. So they really get the cream 528 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: of the crop. Drug problem, drug problems gone. They don't 529 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: want any drug abusers in there, so they get the 530 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: cream of the crop. At the end, make sure they're 531 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: compatible with their handler, train the handler with the people, 532 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: and then boom, you've got a match made in heaven. Yeah. 533 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: In the article, Tom Harris says, like if you're if 534 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you're taking a first time handler, somebody who hasn't had 535 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: a guy dog before. Um, by the time the handler 536 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: comes and you're putting it together with the dog, now 537 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: you're basically in people training mode. Your guide dogs already trained. 538 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: The process is training the handler in the commands that 539 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: that the dog already knows, um, training the handler how 540 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: to walk and basically taking these this person and this 541 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: dog and teaching them how to work as a team. Yeah. 542 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: And the dog has you know, this is their new master. 543 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: They've had their instructor for six months or more. So 544 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: it takes a little while to adjust to this fact 545 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: that hey, this is my new my new alpha dog. Yeah. 546 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: And usually it takes I think on average, about a month. 547 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: That's about the time that's set aside. Um. And so 548 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: these nonprofit guide dog schools have like facilities for blind 549 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: people to come live while they're spending a month learning 550 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: how to work with their guide dog. Yeah. Some of 551 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: them have dorms. That's pretty cool. That's very cool. And 552 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: again we should say all of this is free. The 553 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: nonprofit group is shouldering all of the financial burden. The 554 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: puppy razors um, they're given a stipend or food, all 555 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: vet bills are paid by them, the guide dog school. UM. 556 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: They everything everything that has to do with the training 557 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: and the raising of these dogs is paid for um 558 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: by these nonprofit groups. So amazing. If you're looking for 559 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: a place to uh leave an inheritance, you could do 560 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: worse than a guide dog school. Yeah, that Josh is 561 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: a one dog school. Right. I'll give you my text 562 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: information if you email me directly. UM. So if you 563 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: want to be an instructor, it's gonna vary depending on 564 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: what school you're gonna try and go to, but generally 565 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: you have to have two to three years UM experience 566 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: as an apprentice supervised apprentice. Uh, and then different states 567 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: have certification processes. Um, you're probably a college graduate. Um. 568 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Even though the job doesn't pay, it's still really hard 569 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: to get this job. People want to do this, so 570 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: it's it's wait listed a lot of times, not a 571 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: lot of openings, and it's a tough job to get. 572 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: It's very to manding uh physically and emotionally, and it's 573 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: a real challenge as a trainer, but super rewarding. What 574 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: don't you think? Yeah, And if you are interested in 575 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: becoming a master trainer, from what I understand, the best 576 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: route to take is to start by being a puppy razor, 577 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: work your way up to apprentice trainer and then to 578 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: master trainer. And who knows, you may just feel like 579 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: topping out at um puppy razor. Anybody can do it 580 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: violent application have to be you know, pass of course 581 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: to screen you. It has to I would imagine you. 582 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't see how you could have a job like 583 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: a regular that's probably position, yeah, because I mean if 584 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: you're exposing a dog to five new things a week. Yeah, 585 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: I guess you could balance the two if it was 586 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: like my work and this puppy. Yeah, but even still, 587 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would think you'd probably get bumped 588 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: off a lot easier. And they're screening you two to 589 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: make sure you're like a super awesome person, right, and 590 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: you're not, like I'm not gonna expose them to the 591 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: back of my hand. You have like stains on the 592 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: sleeveless undershirt that you wore to that puppy raising application meeting. 593 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: Give me like four of them puppies, right, I'll train 594 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: them good. They may pass you by. Yeah. Yeah. So 595 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: uh yeah, anybody can do it, I guess, is what 596 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: we're trying to say. Almost anybody. Yeah, And I don't 597 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if they how heavily they screen as 598 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: far as like if you have kids or you can 599 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: have other dogs, even other puppies, but your puppy has 600 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: to be I think seven months old. Yeah, and I 601 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: guess the whole point is they have to deal with 602 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: those distractions anyway a bad thing. That's exactly what the 603 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: mind thought processes behind that. Uh. And like we said, 604 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: they retire generally eight to ten years old, um, although 605 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're like old and feeble. That just 606 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: means it's probably time to get a new guide dog. Right. 607 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: They are sharp mentally typically um, but they're starting to 608 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: slow down a little bit and they have to be 609 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: able to keep pace with their their handlers. So yeah, 610 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: I think about eight to ten is the usual aide 611 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,959 Speaker 1: that they're retired. Yeah, And like you said, they'll offer 612 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: it to the handler. If the handlers like, yeah, I 613 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: can handle like keeping this dog and still get my 614 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: new guy dog, then great. If not, they may offer 615 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: to the original puppy raiser, or you might be lucky enough. 616 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: It's another waitless deal because people want to adopt retired 617 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: guy dogs because they're pretty much the best and you 618 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: may not have as much time with them, but it's 619 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: you're providing them with Like it's almost like you know, 620 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: taking in an old person and giving them something great 621 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: in their twilight years, right, like just letting them a 622 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: good whip cream right out of the can in time. 623 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: They want kind of thing, woop wherever you want, and 624 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: they're like, dude, what's wrong with you? Poop into my hand? 625 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: The dog just thinks are crazy. It's like I remember 626 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: I used to work, Yeah, asked me to do things. 627 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: I love that blind guy so much more? Did you? 628 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: I can't even mention it on this, I think? All right? 629 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: All right? Uh, got anything else about guy dogs? This 630 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: was a little wackier than I thought it was gonna be. Okay, Well, 631 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: if you want to learn all about guide dogs, you 632 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: can type guide dogs into the search bart how stuff 633 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: works dot com. And since I said search bar, it's 634 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: time for friends a message break hit the jingle. Uh now, chuck, 635 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail. That's right, and this is 636 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: dog centric. It just worked out that way. Uh. This 637 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: is from an e R doctor whose passion is animal 638 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: rescue and her name is Jane M. Gene app j 639 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: e n a B. I never heard that j E 640 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: n a B. Yeah, Jeaneppe. Uh So, Jane says, I 641 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: have a charity knitting site, guys, where I donate sent 642 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: of the proceeds from selling my hand knitted items to 643 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: an animal Rescue in your neck of the woods. Actually 644 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Angels among Us pet Rescue in Alpharetta, Georgia. Do you 645 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: remember them? Yeah? Well, how do I know that name? 646 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: In either may be like the can dogs detect like death? 647 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: Or can dogs tell when you're gonna die? Or you 648 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: can dogs detect illness? Remember the chihuahua that could detect 649 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: breast cancer? And um, I feel like we talked about 650 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: that organization in that episode. I think you're right. So 651 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: Angels among Us in Alpharetta they rescue thousands of dogs 652 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: and cats from kill shelters right before being euthanized and 653 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: found them loving homes. Last year, my knitting site donated 654 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars to their cause, and this year my 655 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: goal is six thousand dollars. And this is like she's 656 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: just knitting, selling this stuff and given all the money 657 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: away knitting, knitting, knitting. A few days ago, I lost 658 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: my fifteen year old rescue girl Rica Japanese for Beautiful 659 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: Girl role. I rescued her when she was eight weeks 660 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: old and she was with me through marriage, divorce, medical school, residency, 661 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: and first four years of practice. She moved with me 662 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: from Denver to Tulsa to Kansas City, to Grand Junction, Colorado, 663 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: to Mendesito, California, and back to Denver. Her loss has 664 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: broken my heart, but it is also inspired me to 665 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: work even harder to accomplish my goal for other homeless animals, 666 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: including asking for help spreading the words. Guys, I would 667 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: love it uh to make you both some hand knitted 668 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: hats for the winner if you think you'd enjoy them. 669 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: The links to my page on Facebook and two Angels 670 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: among Us or below you can see pictures of the hats, 671 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: baby hats, dog sweaters, all kinds of things I can knit. Um, 672 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: thanks for your consideration, but more than anything, thanks for 673 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: a fantastic podcast that keeps me entertained and educated. Uh So, 674 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: this is from Jane genab m D, owner of Jane's Creations, 675 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: and we would like to challenge people to go out 676 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: and buy one of her knitted gifts because that money 677 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: is going to go to Angels among Us Pet Rescue. 678 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: That is so cool. So go to our Facebook page UM, 679 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: Facebook dot com, slash Jane's Creations, j A. N. E. 680 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: S Creations of Denver, Colorado, or just check out Angels 681 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: among Us pet Rescue at Facebook dot com slash Angels Rescue, 682 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: and let's help her reach that goal of six thousand 683 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: bucks because that's pretty awesome. Let's do it. Let's make 684 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: it an official s y s K thing. And hey, 685 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: you know what, Jerry adopted her cute little dog Tooley 686 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: from Angels among Us doing with the drum comb Yeah, 687 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: doing that washed out a guide dog school. Yeah, the 688 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: tweaker but uh yeah, so we have a personal connection 689 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: to and um, let's let's do it, Chuck, Let's make 690 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: it an official s y s K thing to raise 691 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: some money for this. Yeah, so go to Facebook dot com, 692 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: slash Jane's creations and uh ja dot cars. Corresponding with 693 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: her own email, it was very sad to hear about Rica, 694 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: but she's got other animals because she's an animal crazy 695 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: person just like me. It's nice. Animal crazy people are 696 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: the best crazy people around. Agreed. Uh, if you want 697 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: us to help try to raise some money for a 698 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: very worthy cause, via you get in touch at us, 699 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to check you out, make sure you're legit, 700 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: make sure you're not you know, making money off of 701 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: other people's good will tacky. 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