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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's voice news. This is Sunday the

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Speaker 1: Road Forward. Change continues coming at US at warp speed

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Speaker 1: out of Washington from the Trump administration. And hey, it's

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Speaker 1: a Memorial Day weekend. It's sacred time to commemorate all

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Speaker 1: the men and women who have died in military service

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Speaker 1: for the United States of America. All this and more

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Speaker 1: as we kick off summer. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll

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Speaker 1: be your host our special guest joining us this week.

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Speaker 1: He's dynamic pastor, movie producer, author's civil rights activist, and

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Speaker 1: television personality. President of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.

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Speaker 1: Sam Rodriguez is back. He's a practicing licensed psychologist, author,

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Speaker 1: former legislator, and Navy veteran. Consults with mental health and

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Speaker 1: public policy with national organizations, and speaks extensively throughout the

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Speaker 1: United States.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Tim Murphy is with us.

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Speaker 1: He's evangelist and Marine Corps Vietnam veteran Tim Lee is

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Speaker 1: back with us and he's retired Major General of the

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Speaker 1: United States Army.

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Speaker 2: Bob Dees thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: US.

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Speaker 4: Christ Love Sweorthy Coy.

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Speaker 2: Swot Well.

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Speaker 1: Change continues coming at US at warp speed out of

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Speaker 1: Washington from the Trump administration. This week, the Senate unanimously

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Speaker 1: approved a twenty five thousand dollars tax break for tip

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Speaker 1: workers that one Big Beautiful Bill is advancing. And President

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Speaker 1: Trump and Secretary Hexeth announced the Golden Dome missile defense

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Speaker 1: system for the United States. And this weekend, we're celebrating

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day as we kick off summer. Memorial Day weekend

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Speaker 1: is traditionally seen as the start of summer grilling and chilin,

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Speaker 1: hitting the lake, barbecue in big race weekend, the n

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Speaker 1: five hundred, the Coca Cola six hundred. Maybe you or

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Speaker 1: your family have plans for the weekend, Hey listen, don't

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Speaker 1: skip out on church, and be sure to spend some

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Speaker 1: time reflecting on those who gave their all that full

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Speaker 1: measure of devotion. I'm talking about those fallen heroes who

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Speaker 1: served our country and paid the ultimate price. They laid

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Speaker 1: down their lives so that we could live in worship

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Speaker 1: with freedom in the greatest country in the world, the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. Memorial Day was formerly known as

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Speaker 1: Decoration Day. It's a sacred day again to honor the

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Speaker 1: men and women who have died in military service for

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Speaker 1: our country and to honor their families. Several national traditions

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Speaker 1: on Memorial Day include flying a flag at half staff

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Speaker 1: from dawn until noon, placing flags on graves and national cemeteries,

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Speaker 1: and a national Moment of Remembrance at.

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Speaker 2: Three PM on Memorial Day.

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Speaker 1: I remember as a boy Dubois, Pennsylvania, Morningside Cemetery Memorial

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Speaker 1: Day weekend, my dad would take us for a drive

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Speaker 1: through a sea of American flags, basically representing those who

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Speaker 1: had served our great country. Timmy said, some game, and

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Speaker 1: you need to know that freedom isn't free. Not far

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Speaker 1: too from my childhood home. As another memorial called Brad's Hill,

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Speaker 1: It's a memorial to one of America's finest killed in Iraq.

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Speaker 1: My son Zach and I, when we go up to Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: we try to go buy there. It's a place where

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Speaker 1: I remind him if freedom isn't free, who are those

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Speaker 1: gold Star families? They're heroes who died in combat from

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Speaker 1: World War Two till now and those families who have

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Speaker 1: lost that loved one in military service. President is expected

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Speaker 1: to go to Arlington National Cemetery on Monday morning and

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Speaker 1: place a reef on the tomb of the unknown soldier

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Speaker 1: president and his administration.

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Speaker 2: They're putting a.

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Speaker 1: Big emphasis, a strong emphasis on a well supported military,

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Speaker 1: and this is also National Military Appreciation Month. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you do something in person on social media this weekend

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Speaker 1: to honor and do your part. Romans thirteen seven says

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Speaker 1: rendered therefore unto all honor, to whom honor is due.

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Speaker 1: Strapping as we jump head first into our discussion today.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we'd love to hear from you

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Speaker 1: on Sunday the Road Ford, I'm gonna pray.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get started. God be with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for those who serve and served our great country.

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Speaker 1: For those who gave the full measure of devotion. God,

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Speaker 1: we honor them. Thank You for the freedoms we have

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Speaker 1: in this country. I pray a special blessing over this

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Speaker 1: entire weekend. I pray a blessing over this particular program, Use.

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Speaker 2: It for your glory. I pray all this in the

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Speaker 2: strong name of Jesus. Let's get started.

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Speaker 2: Joyce now Sangue Rodriguez.

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Speaker 1: He's the president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference,

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Speaker 1: the world's largest Hispanic Christian organization. He's also lead pastor

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Speaker 1: New Season Church in Sacramento, California. Sam, welcome back, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining me, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You for having me. Sam.

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Speaker 1: Been a wild couple of weeks, a couple of months, really.

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Speaker 1: I think since January twentieth, I mean the President has

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Speaker 1: hit the ground running. He's running at warp speed. I

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Speaker 1: mean absolutely wild. Everything he's knocking out, getting done, He's

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Speaker 1: sending a message, and I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: Everything from the economy to foreign policy, his recent trip

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Speaker 4: to the Middle East, confronting South African racism apart TID

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Speaker 4: two point zero, imagine that, and doing it all with swag,

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Speaker 4: doing it all with great deliberation, with a stronger commit

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Speaker 4: into affirming our Jeneo Christian value system as to saw

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Speaker 4: through the National Day of Prayer and so forth. It's

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Speaker 4: an amazing time.

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Speaker 3: Indeed.

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Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, Tim, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 4: coincidence that ever since this administration came in, we're looking

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Speaker 4: at some inroads now.

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Speaker 3: As reported by David.

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Speaker 4: Kinneman and Barna a quote unquote, Christianity is making a

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Speaker 4: comeback in America. It can't be coincidental, my friend Sam.

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Speaker 2: Also, everybody knows there's a new sheriff in town.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just energy in Washington, there's energy across

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Speaker 1: the country. People are saying, America's back, America's coming back.

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Speaker 1: It's like the train has left this you better get

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Speaker 1: on the bus. And you know, it seems like everything

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Speaker 1: that he was getting pushed back on from tariffs everything else,

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Speaker 1: they're saying, Ah, he's gonna blow it all up. Sam,

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Speaker 1: it looks like these dominoes are falling in place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Faith is back, family is back, common sense is back, Logic,

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Speaker 4: reason our back. Science is back.

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 4: Human anatomy, biology, and physiology they are back. And the

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Speaker 4: dominoes are every single time you hear a predictive model

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Speaker 4: and we talked about the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: These tariffs will result.

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Speaker 4: In super hyper inflation. Hey, tied, the inflation report just

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen in four years.

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Speaker 6: Four years.

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Speaker 4: So every single doom and gloom report is actually countered

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Speaker 4: by what a truthful outcome demonstrating that something is happening

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Speaker 4: in America.

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Speaker 6: America is back.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen this sort of America is back, sort

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Speaker 4: of model since Ronald Reagan was president. America is back.

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend, Sam, people reflect on those who gave

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Speaker 1: all the full measure of devotion. And there's something about

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Speaker 1: at it, and you start thinking about how freedom isn't free,

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Speaker 1: and there's honor that begins to define everything that you

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: When I think of President Trump and where he's at,

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Speaker 1: We'll watch him go to Arlington Cemetery Monday morning for

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Speaker 1: the Unknown Soldier and more people will basically stand at attention.

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Speaker 1: They'll get that moment of honor, of recognition, that solemn moment.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 1: In the midst of it, there seems to be something

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Speaker 1: inside the president right now that the American people are

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Speaker 1: buying into, and that is it's different, He's different. This

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Speaker 1: point zero. Maybe it was that Brushwood death and Butler

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Speaker 4: So he has a mandate, and the mandate in his wording,

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Speaker 4: God has provided time and space. God protected him for

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Speaker 4: such a time as this to restore America because America

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Speaker 4: is unbelievably important on the face of his planet. So

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Speaker 4: goes America, so goes the world.

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Speaker 3: It is our Jeneo.

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Speaker 4: Christian value system that makes us exceptional, the fact that

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Speaker 4: we believe that our rights come from God and not

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Speaker 4: from each other or from government. They come from God.

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump is demonstrating that when we affirm that

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Speaker 4: Jeneo Christian value system, it's a worldview, and it is

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Speaker 4: the worldview that will serve as a deterrent to communism

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Speaker 4: and Marxism and socialism and Wokism and cancel culture. That

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Speaker 4: worldview is prevailing again because of his incredible leadership.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hats, stars.

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Speaker 4: And stripes, our national anthem, they once again begin to

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Speaker 4: resonate and we get goose pimples and chills once again.

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Speaker 4: Because of Donald Trump's.

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Speaker 1: Leadership, Sam, there was a real beat down on people

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Speaker 1: of faith. I mean there really was. You couldn't mention

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Speaker 1: God much on social media without getting hammered. But it's

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Speaker 1: like God is making this comeback. You reference that across

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Speaker 1: the America is like revival going on the barn and

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Speaker 1: research showing that young men, in particular millennials gen Z

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Speaker 1: are coming back to court. I mean they're coming to

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Speaker 1: Christ and Drove Seriously, there's an upswing. It's a surge. Sam,

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about culture. I mean, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: wild what we're seeing.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me give you four words. Four words.

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Speaker 4: Let me just speak to your audience and even to

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Speaker 4: those that may be watching this that are.

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Speaker 2: Not part of our.

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Speaker 3: Christian worldview, our Christian faith.

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Speaker 4: For everyone out there that is suffering from acid reflux

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Speaker 4: because quote American idol is becoming two Christians, For everyone

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Speaker 4: who is suffering heartburn, because NFL football players continue to

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Speaker 4: give glory to Jesus at the end of the football game.

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Speaker 4: For everyone out there with great anks and consternation because

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Speaker 4: God and Jesus are being elevated into public sphere like

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Speaker 3: There are four words. Get used to it.

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Speaker 4: And I say that respectfully because it's out of the bag.

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Speaker 4: There is a commitment now to never again sacrificing truth

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the president could have turned away, Sam, elected,

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Speaker 2: It is in full swing.

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Speaker 4: But rather he's doubling down an affirming faith as the

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Speaker 2: Our falling, our war debt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim, I am compelled to reconcile the Barner report

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Speaker 4: We must honor Proverbs twenty two, verse four. True humility

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Thank you for joining us. Happy Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's a good time remember and stay for all

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Speaker 1: Tim, you know, everybody typically thinks of Memorial Day of

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Speaker 1: When I think of military too, and I think of

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Speaker 7: Thanks Well. I specialize now in working with trauma and

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Speaker 7: where is everybody now? And even friends or neighbors they

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Speaker 7: don't quite understand. They may say some kind words, but

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Speaker 7: they don't quite understand that loss can begin to make

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Speaker 7: some things worse. When then one is reflecting on particularly

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Speaker 7: traumatic things they have seen in war, and these can

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Speaker 7: be combat situations, they can be horrific accidents that someone

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Speaker 7: sees their witness to it. They may have lost a

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Speaker 7: dear friend, they may have seen some disaster take place.

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Speaker 7: Those traumatic thoughts continue to wear on us. It's like

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Speaker 7: the videotape replay that won't stop. And each time that happens,

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Speaker 7: our brain, our body, our heart, our spirituality will react

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Speaker 7: to that and grind away at us, build up our stress,

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Speaker 7: accelerate our stress. Hormones bring on more depression and anxiety. Well,

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Speaker 7: when a person has a hard time shaking that and

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Speaker 7: I've got to get out of this mental pain or

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Speaker 7: a that is a temporary solution, or excuse me, it's

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Speaker 7: a permanent solution to a temporary problem. And that's what

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Speaker 7: you want veterans to know. You've seen the numbers. It ranges, well,

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Speaker 7: the VA just changed the way they read data, so

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Speaker 7: it's like seventeen a day, but we really know the

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Speaker 7: number of veterans who die each day could be as

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Speaker 7: high as thirty or forty, particularly high among Vietnam veterans.

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Speaker 7: As they're retired there now they have time with their thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Things start to ache on them. And we know that

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Speaker 7: more have died by suicide, after Desert Storm, after Iraqi Freedom,

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Speaker 7: after the Afghan War, more have died by suicide than

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Speaker 7: by combat. It's almost twice as many from Vietnam have

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Speaker 7: died from suicide. This is why at a moment, at

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Speaker 7: a time like this Memorial Day. Yeah, Veteran's day is good,

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Speaker 7: and you thank everybody for their service, but a time

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Speaker 7: like this let them know that any of their service

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Speaker 7: was valuable. Others may have died, but say, we don't

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Speaker 7: want you to die now. Don't be a casualty of

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Speaker 7: war now, And so honoring people remembering them sometimes just

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Speaker 7: saying them at a time of Memorial Day, Hey, do

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Speaker 7: you have any friends that you're thinking of you're remembering

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Speaker 7: on a day like this. That's a really cool and

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Speaker 7: heartfelt way to connect with the veteran. Now they may say, now,

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Speaker 7: I don't want to talk about it. That's cool, but

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Speaker 7: they may say, yeah, thanks for remembering. And to even say,

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Speaker 7: is there anybody I can pray for today? Any gold

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Speaker 7: Star family that you know of, anybody who've lost, can

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Speaker 7: we share a prayer? I'm telling you that would lift

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Speaker 7: a burden off of many a veteran's shoulders to know

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Speaker 7: that they don't have to carry on this fight alone.

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Speaker 7: And the memories of those who have been lost.

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Speaker 1: What I'd like to have you, Tim, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining's Doctor Tim Murphy. If people want to

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Speaker 1: learn more about you and your work, where can they go?

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Speaker 2: Tim?

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Speaker 7: I have a website. It's doctor Tim Murphy dot com.

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Speaker 7: Dr Tim Murphy dot com. And he mentioned my book

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Speaker 7: Before the Christ Cured, Ten Biblical Ways to Heal from Trauma,

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Speaker 7: Tragedy and PTSD. I hope you reading it really as

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Speaker 7: a handbook for the broken and those who love them.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next he's retired Major General of the United

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Speaker 1: States Army Bob D's.

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Speaker 8: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 8: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 8: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Joyce now is retired Major General Bob D's. He's a

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Speaker 1: decorated military leader with over three decades of service. Now

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Speaker 1: advocates for leadership development and mental health through his work

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Speaker 1: as an author and speaker. He currently serves as the

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Speaker 1: what I'd like to have you happy Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Doctor Clinton. Great to be with you,

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Speaker 6: and I appreciate our long term relationship and trying to

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Speaker 6: help others together.

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Speaker 1: Bob, I was talking to you before we got on

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Speaker 1: the air just about your ongoing service to veterans, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I've had numerous conversations about Veterans Day and

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day and more. But Bob, stepping back and as

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Speaker 1: you reflect on just going into the weekend and the

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Speaker 1: honor you know by the way, something's changing in America.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the spirit of America is back, and the

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Speaker 1: honor that's coming back to our military, this strong national

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Speaker 1: defense and so much more. It's a beautiful thing to watch.

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Speaker 1: But Bob, just some reflections out of your heart as

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Speaker 1: we go into a Memorial Day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you bet well. For those that have observed the

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Speaker 6: selfless service of our fighting men and women all across

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Speaker 6: the world, Memorial Day is perhaps a day of celebration,

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Speaker 6: but more importantly, it's also a sober day, a day

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Speaker 6: of remembrance, a day of remembering the great sacrifice. A

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Speaker 6: long time ago, when I was a young lieutenant, my

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Speaker 6: Rto died at my side, and I recognized that that

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Speaker 6: mission that I'd received at West Point, of take care

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Speaker 6: of the troops and accomplish a mission had sort of

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Speaker 6: been branded on my forehead. And then when I got

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Speaker 6: out and that happened and I saw the selfless service

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Speaker 6: of the blue collar workers, the soldier sayers, theirman marines

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Speaker 6: in the military, it went from my head to my heart.

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Speaker 6: And then eventually it went from my heart when I

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Speaker 6: saw more of that, the suicides, etc. To my gut,

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Speaker 6: and it became a divine calling to take care of

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Speaker 6: of our troops in various ways and their families. And

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Speaker 6: so on this day, I think of those troops that

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Speaker 6: have lost their lives certainly the ones I've known personally,

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Speaker 6: but the thousands and the thousands that have given their

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Speaker 6: lives on behalf of a grateful nation. I placed many

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Speaker 6: coins that a soldier's cross after a soldier has lost

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Speaker 6: his life, and I've folded many flags with widows and

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Speaker 6: given them to her in most cases, on behalf of

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Speaker 6: a grateful nation. So it's a sobering time, and there

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Speaker 6: are plenty of things we can talk about. But when

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Speaker 6: I lost the lives, you know, I was over people

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Speaker 6: who lost their lives in various situations. I always remember

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Speaker 6: that we are to honor the fall and we are

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Speaker 6: to lead the living. So when we honor the falling

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Speaker 6: on Memorial Day, it's a sober time. It's a sacred

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Speaker 6: time to honor that sacrifice of life. Christ said no

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Speaker 6: greater love, and so we see no greater love underneath

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Speaker 6: each one of those tombstones that have given their lives

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Speaker 6: for the nation and for their people on their right

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Speaker 6: and left, and then lead the living. Although the emphasis

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Speaker 6: on Memorial Day those that have actually lost their lives,

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Speaker 6: we must also remember the veterans and the active duty

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Speaker 6: military and their families. And so we in this nation

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Speaker 6: need to give strong support and good guidance and counsel

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Speaker 6: and leadership to those that live and are prepared to

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Speaker 6: give their lives in the future on our behalf. When

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Speaker 6: I think, that's what comes to mind tim at first.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I think of Memorial Day, we'll see

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Speaker 1: images of Ourlington Cemetery. We'll probably well watch the President

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Speaker 1: go Leah Reef at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Bob, I think of it being national, but

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Speaker 1: it's very local. Not far from where I live is

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Speaker 1: a little town called Bedford, Virginia. You're very familiar with

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Speaker 1: it and the D Day memorials there, and they talk

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Speaker 1: about the Bedford Boys, how they were just absolutely wiped

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Speaker 1: out on D Day there on the shores of Normandy,

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Speaker 1: and I just think about going through that town and

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Speaker 1: it's just a bedroom community.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of flags, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: pride there.

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Speaker 1: You'll go through town here over the next two weeks

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Speaker 1: and you're going to see on every corner, you know,

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Speaker 1: some type of reminder of the history and the love

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Speaker 1: for America. That's sair, Bob, and I think that's what Memorial.

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Speaker 2: Day is to me.

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Speaker 1: It's just about the families that probably don't get a

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Speaker 1: lot of recognition, But who faithfully and out of duty,

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Speaker 1: who raised that right hand and said, hey, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to serve my country with every ounce of energy I

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Speaker 1: have so that we can live free together.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: That's such a good point, and I think it emphasizes

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Speaker 6: the fact that these are not nameless tombstones or statistics.

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Speaker 6: These are fathers and brothers and sisters and mothers, spouses,

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Speaker 6: all sorts of relationships. And when that person is lost,

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Speaker 6: it's like pulling the roots out a family in many ways,

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Speaker 6: and it's so painful, and it's not something that goes away.

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Speaker 6: You'll never forget the loss of that loved one. And

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Speaker 6: so you're right, Spiritual worship is to in fact honor

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Speaker 6: them on places at times like Memorial Day, places like

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Speaker 6: Arlington Cemetery.

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Speaker 1: Bob, the National Center for Healthy Veterans. You now lead that,

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Speaker 1: and you and your wife, and it's amazing what God's

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Speaker 1: doing in and through share with us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the mission and what's been happening.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's just a privilege, Tim to be leading this organization.

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Speaker 6: We talked about the effectiveness of the Iron Dome, and

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Speaker 6: it's an integrated effort well, that's what we do at

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Speaker 6: the National Center for Healthy Veterans. We're a holistic integration

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Speaker 6: of proven best practices. Gratefully, we've been able to take

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Speaker 6: a three hundred and thirty nine acre of God's creation.

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Speaker 6: The Japanese would call it on forest bathing. That's therapeutic

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Speaker 6: in itself. And then we've put together a very intentional

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Speaker 6: program of dignified work to provide purpose, self esteem, community

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Speaker 6: living in tiny homes. We soon will have forty four

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Speaker 6: tiny homes. The last ones are completing construction now, and

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Speaker 6: that defeats isolation, one of the primary causes of veteran suicide.

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Speaker 6: And then we go on. We have faith based trauma recovering,

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Speaker 6: life skills programs. To include with the last trimester is

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Speaker 6: career preparation. And then we have many types of therapy.

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Speaker 6: We have equin therapy, twenty four horses, ten certified equine therapists.

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Speaker 6: That's a wonderful tool with our veterans and their families

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Speaker 6: and their children. So we're just grateful that this holistic

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Speaker 6: integration really a national prototype. We're a nine month residential

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Speaker 6: program for these at risk veterans. I say we're a

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Speaker 6: we're a CROC pot and a microwave society, and you

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Speaker 6: understand the problems with RECID. Many of our veterans have

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Speaker 6: aud SUD problems, and so we're prepared to deal with

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Speaker 6: those and many other issues that they face. And it's

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Speaker 6: such joy. It's a privilege to watch them grow, progress,

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Speaker 6: move away, gain the right reflexes. Turnier said, you fall

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Speaker 6: the way you lean, and so we teach these veterans

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Speaker 6: out here to become healthy, to lean in the right direction,

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Speaker 6: so that if they do fall for whatever reason, they

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Speaker 6: now have the reflexes and the means to pick themselves

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Speaker 6: back up and move on out and be productive members

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Speaker 6: of society.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's gaining a lot of attention and support, Bob.

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Speaker 1: If people watching right now want to learn more about

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Speaker 1: the National Center for Healthy Veterans maybe support you and

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Speaker 1: your work, where can they go?

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Speaker 6: Sure, just go to Healthy Veterans dot org, Healthy Veterans

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Speaker 6: dot org, and we also have Facebook. You can find

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Speaker 6: us through there and others. And two requests. One, yes,

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Speaker 6: we need resources. We appreciate that my grandmother used to say,

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Speaker 6: many hands make light work. And secondly, we need referrals.

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Speaker 6: The people in your listening audience are in the woodwork

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Speaker 6: of America. They recognize there's veterans around the corner, maybe

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Speaker 6: under the bridge. They recognize somebody stuck in their parents'

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Speaker 6: basement playing video games. They recognize maybe somebody's had three

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Speaker 6: jobs in the last year and they can't keep it

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Speaker 6: because they can't adapt or transition. We deal with these

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Speaker 6: type veterans and also the typical post traumatic stress disorder,

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Speaker 6: traumatic brain injury, moral injury, adverse childhood experiences precipitated by

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Speaker 6: military service. All of those. We ask that you send

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Speaker 6: those referrals to us and will help them or will

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Speaker 6: help refer them to someone else that can help them.

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Speaker 1: It's the National Center for Healthy Veterans, and the website

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Speaker 1: again is Healthy Veterans dot org. That's correct, healthy Veterans

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Speaker 1: dot org. Bob D's General Bobde's thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Doctor Clinton, and a privilege.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Vietnam veteran Tim Lee is back with it.

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Speaker 8: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 8: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 8: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Join us now is United States Marine Corps. Veteran Box

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Speaker 1: News contributor and evangelist Tim Lee while serving in the

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Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps South Vietnam, gave both of his

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Speaker 1: legs to America. Instead of quitting or becoming bitter, God

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Speaker 1: used this major event in Tim's life to propel them

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Speaker 1: into a ministry that no one could have ever imagined.

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Speaker 2: At that time.

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Speaker 1: Tim, Welcome, Happy Memorial Day. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, doctor Tim. But it is always an honor

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Speaker 3: to be with you. Tim.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your service to our country. And when

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Speaker 1: I think of you, I just think of someone who

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Speaker 1: genuinely loves America. You love God, you love America, and

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Speaker 1: you're grateful to God for his goodness and grace, and

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Speaker 1: you liked him, and you remind me every time we

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Speaker 1: have a conversation that freedom isn't free. There's a special

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Speaker 1: place in your heart for those, by the way, who

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Speaker 1: have served, those who have who actually serve, and those

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Speaker 1: who gave all.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and especially on this Memorial Day weekend that we're

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Speaker 3: remembering those that gave it all and Veteran's Day. Of

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Speaker 3: course we will honor those who are serving and those

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Speaker 3: who have served that are still alive, but today we're

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Speaker 3: remembered those who literally gave it all. And I've said

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Speaker 3: thousands of times over the years of America's worth living for,

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Speaker 3: America's worth fighting for, and if needs be, America is

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Speaker 3: worth dying for. And so this is a great nation.

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Speaker 3: We got falls, we got problems, we've got sin, but

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Speaker 3: it's still the greatest nation on the face of the earth.

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Speaker 3: I don't know of another country where I want to

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Speaker 3: go and live. I love America, and so I'm going

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Speaker 3: to keep on fighting till my dying breath for this

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Speaker 3: great land.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 1: On Monday, the President is expected to go to Arlington

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Speaker 1: National Cemetery, going to place a wreath at the tomb

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Speaker 1: of the Unknown Soldier. You know this, and America knows this.

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Speaker 1: The President places a huge premium on an emphasis on

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Speaker 1: a strong and well supported military, and the ward will

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Speaker 1: be watching him as he goes to do that very thing.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 1: There is a new sheriff in town, a little different

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Speaker 1: than what we've seen in the past couple of years.

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Speaker 1: And I think people they love the honor that's coming

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Speaker 1: to America and to those who serve and their families.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have been several times through the tomb of

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Speaker 3: the Unknown Soldier. I've had to princely wreathed there twice.

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Speaker 3: And it's quite an experience. I am so grateful that

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Speaker 3: God has given America what I call a reprieve. We've

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Speaker 3: been given another opportunity, knowing as a preacher of the

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Speaker 3: Word of God, that we deserve the judgment of God.

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Speaker 3: America deserves God's judgment. God's full of judgment. But He's

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Speaker 3: given us mercy, and not that we deserved it, but

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Speaker 3: He's got a plan and the design. And so here

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Speaker 3: we are with the greatest president in my lifetime, President

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Speaker 3: Donald J. Trump. And I've told someone yesterday that maybe

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Speaker 3: there's three to four five percent of what he says

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Speaker 3: or does that I might disagree with, But I don't

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Speaker 3: even agree with myself that much. I agree with him

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Speaker 3: more than I agree with myself. So I'm thanking God

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Speaker 3: every day for this new leadership. I tell you, we

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Speaker 3: were on the verge of I believe, a total collapse,

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Speaker 3: and our enemies were watching us close to see what

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Speaker 3: was going to happen. And now they're dealing with Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump and our commander in chief and new leadership all

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Speaker 3: the way around. And it is a breath of fresh air,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, great great relief to know that we've got

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Speaker 3: this man setting at the Helm.

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Speaker 1: Tim, you have quite a personal story. Grew up small town, USA, Illinois,

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Speaker 1: pastor's son, but you jump into the United States Marine Corps.

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Speaker 1: Maybe teach him a few things. But take us down

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Speaker 1: that journey that you were on and what God did

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Speaker 1: in your heart.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was raising a preacher's home. My dad was

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Speaker 3: a Southern Baptist pastor for right at sixty years, and

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Speaker 3: my mom a pastor's wife for almost sixty years, and

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Speaker 3: a great family. There were seven of us. My dad

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Speaker 3: one of the hardest working men I've ever known in

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Speaker 3: my life. My dad served at World War Two in

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Speaker 3: the South Pacific, and he's my hero and my Mentory's

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Speaker 3: gone to heaven now and I miss him all of

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Speaker 3: the time. But I was raised in a great home.

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Speaker 3: Not a perfect home, but a great home. And when

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Speaker 3: I was ten, I gave my heart to Christ and

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Speaker 3: I loved it. I was so excited and pumped up.

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Speaker 3: But then when I became a teenager, I got out

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Speaker 3: of the will of God. And Tim, I tell parents

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Speaker 3: that one of the main reasons that I got out

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Speaker 3: of the will of God is I begin to hang

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Speaker 3: out with the wrong crowd. And that's why it's important

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Speaker 3: for parents to find out who their children are hanging

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Speaker 3: out with and where they're going. What they're doing is

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Speaker 3: called checking up on them, is called being a parent.

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Speaker 3: But I was going behind mom and Dad's back and

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Speaker 3: sneaking around doing things that were wrong and out of

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Speaker 3: the will of God, and my life messed up. I

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Speaker 3: graduated from high school, got kicked out of college, got

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Speaker 3: fired for my job, and walking down the street my hometown, McLeansboro, Illinois,

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Speaker 3: I stepped on I went into the recruiters. I saw

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Speaker 3: a sign and said, the Marines are looking for a

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Speaker 3: few good men. And I went in and joined the

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Speaker 3: United States Marine Corps and doctor Tim. I thought when

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Speaker 3: I left that recruiter's office that I was a United

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Speaker 3: States Marine, But I found out in boot camp, you're

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Speaker 3: a lot of things, but you're not a marine. And

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Speaker 3: so there that twelve weeks at boot camp, they reinforced

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Speaker 3: the things that my parents have been teaching me all

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Speaker 3: of my life. And I tell young people that I

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Speaker 3: was tired of living a home, tired of being told

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Speaker 3: what time to get out of bed, and what time

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Speaker 3: to go to bed, and how to get my hair cut.

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Speaker 3: So I joined the United States Marine Corps, and of

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Speaker 3: course that was not the smartest thing ever did, but

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Speaker 3: it ended up in South Vietnam on March the eighth,

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy one, leading my men on a mind sweep,

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Speaker 3: and I stepped on a sixty pound mine and blew

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Speaker 3: me several feet into the air, RiPP both of my

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Speaker 3: killed instantly. It was a big enough mind to destroy

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Speaker 3: a jeep. We entered a major minefield, and now there's

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Speaker 3: smoke and chaos and confusion of South Korea Marine serving

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Speaker 3: room with us stepped on a mine, lost one of

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Speaker 3: his legs. Our bullowser driver said, it's blade down on

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Speaker 3: a mine. Some of my men think we're taking on

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Speaker 3: small enemy fire. And I was only unconscious for a

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Speaker 3: couple of moments, and I realized that I've been hit.

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Speaker 3: I was in extreme pain, and they wouldn't let me

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Speaker 3: look up, but my head was laying in the lap

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Speaker 3: of my best friend in Vietnam, legal or Leon. I

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Speaker 3: flew to Vietnam on the same plane, and he was

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Speaker 3: a Christian living for God, openly living for God, praying

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Speaker 3: and reading his Bible, talking to other marines about the

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Speaker 3: Lord and I'd get under conviction just being around him.

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Speaker 3: I knew this is the life and the testimony that

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Speaker 3: I was supposed to have. But I was running from God.

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Speaker 3: And that day I prayed with my head in his lap.

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Speaker 3: He was praying, big old tears front down his black face,

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Speaker 3: and he was praying for me and asking God to

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Speaker 3: help me. But I prayed that day and I begged

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Speaker 3: God to let me live. And two weeks on a

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Speaker 3: hospital ship, two weeks on the island of Guama, then

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Speaker 3: eight long months in the PHILADELPHIAVA Hospital in Pennsylvania, and

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Speaker 3: the God spared my life and let me live. When

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Speaker 3: the doctors were through, had three inches remaining on a

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Speaker 3: right leg, eleven inches on the left, and no other

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Speaker 3: part of my body was hurt. God had spared my life.

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Speaker 3: And here we are talking about it today.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 1: Through the years, you have carried that message from Harris Island,

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Speaker 1: where you get to speak to recruits coming into the

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Speaker 1: Marine Corps. You become a legendary speak all over the country,

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Speaker 1: around the world. At the heart of all of it

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Speaker 1: is the gospel message.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 1: It's who you are, It's what matters, It's what separates everything.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's the freedom we

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Speaker 1: have in Christ. That's the ultimate freedom, and that's the

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Speaker 1: foundation I put upon which we stand. That's why religious

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Speaker 1: liberty and so much more are so important. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's important for us to stand for America, for our

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Speaker 1: country absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And this is the most important thing. As important as

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Speaker 3: that American flag is important, as my country, is more

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Speaker 3: important as the gospel of Jesus Christ, what God did

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Speaker 3: for us and sending his son, Jesus, the only begotten

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Speaker 3: son of God, to hang on an old, rugged cross

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Speaker 3: suspended between heaven and earth. And on that cross he

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Speaker 3: shed his blood, and on that cross he died. God's

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Speaker 3: only son died for me and for you and for

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Speaker 3: the sins of the whole world. But here's the difference

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Speaker 3: of Christianity, among other things. But the main difference is

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Speaker 3: of Christianity and every other single religion on the face

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Speaker 3: of the earth. But Jesus didn't stay dead. Three days

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Speaker 3: later he gets up from the grave, bodily, physically, gets

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Speaker 3: up from the grave, victorious of a sin, of a

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Speaker 3: death over hell. And today God's son is alive. And

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Speaker 3: that is the good news. And then the great news

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Speaker 3: is that he wants to come and live in people's lives,

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Speaker 3: and people ask me, how does God son come and

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Speaker 3: live in my life. You have to come to the

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Speaker 3: place to confess that you're a sinner, knowing you save

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Speaker 3: yourself and you're willing to repent of your sins and

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Speaker 3: turn to Jesus. And the very moment that you, by

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Speaker 3: faith say yes to Jesus by faith, what are you saying?

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Speaker 3: Yes to the cross, to the blood that was shed,

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Speaker 3: to the death that was died, and to an empty tomb,

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Speaker 3: to a risen savior. The very moment that a person

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Speaker 3: says yes, God said in Job one twelve to as

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Speaker 3: many as received him to them, gave me the pie

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Speaker 3: to become the sons of God. And God saves you,

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Speaker 3: and he makes you his child and you get to

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Speaker 3: spend all that he turned with him in this awesome,

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Speaker 3: awesome place called Heaven.

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Speaker 1: That's simply by praying to God and asking him and

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Speaker 1: to come into your life, tim.

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Speaker 2: You become a warrior for God. I'm encouraged.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing new research coming out about younger men in

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Speaker 1: particularly the millennials and gen Z coming to Christ, I

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Speaker 1: mean flooding to Christ. There's something stirring in our country.

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Speaker 1: Are you excited about it.

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Speaker 3: I am p just been reading a lot about this.

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Speaker 3: So that's two or three days. And we were had

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Speaker 3: a Preachers of meeting with several pastors here the other

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Speaker 3: day in Fort Worth, and we were talking about this

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Speaker 3: very thing. Whereas like two or three years ago, the

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Speaker 3: decline was so obvious and look like young people were

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Speaker 3: turning away from God. And now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: there's something that is going on. And our college campuses

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Speaker 3: are going on with our young people and especially with

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Speaker 3: our young men. And I'm grateful for the young ladies

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Speaker 3: that come to Christ, but I know that we need

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Speaker 3: to raise up some great men in this country with

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Speaker 3: courage and backbone and guts to stand for God and

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Speaker 3: to live for Jesus and to stand for what's right

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Speaker 3: in this country. And so men alive. I want to

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Speaker 3: encourage this. I want to I want to be a

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Speaker 3: part of it. I want to help these young young

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Speaker 3: men that want to turn to Jesus that we can

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Speaker 3: disciple them and that we can see some great preachers

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Speaker 3: call out among them and the a ban or some

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Speaker 3: pastors and missionaries and leaders and young people are just

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Speaker 3: on fire for God. And so yes, I am super

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Speaker 3: duper pumped about what's going on right now.

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Speaker 1: Some people are saying recently to me, America's back. I

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Speaker 1: think America's coming back.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Something's going on. Tim, Thank you for your leadership. A

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Speaker 1: blessed Memorial Day, and go easy on the hot dogs.

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Speaker 2: Will you?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 8: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 8: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 8: part of your life.

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Speaker 2: Be close.

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Speaker 1: I again want to give a strong shout out to

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Speaker 1: all those who gave all and those who serve and

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Speaker 1: their families.

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Speaker 2: We salute you. What can you do this.

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Speaker 1: Weekend to honor a veteran out of your wigh and

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Speaker 1: say thank you someone for their service. Proudly fly the

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Speaker 1: American flag, maybe put flowers or a flag at a

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Speaker 1: grave at three pm on moil day? Actually a pause

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Speaker 1: for a moment of silence, hey, and don't forget to

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Speaker 1: visit a cemetery or battlefield and always remember that freedom

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Speaker 1: isn't free. Share a pick on social media. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a loved one or a fallen soldier or airman.

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Speaker 1: And probably the most appropriate way we could end this

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Speaker 1: broadcast today is by the playing of taps.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching,