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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tail Woods, presented by

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Speaker 1: now your hosts, Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: It's the second half of November, but just like a twikie,

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Speaker 2: the second half is the best half of the rut.

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Speaker 2: This is rot Fresh. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Everyone? Welcome? Rot Fresh Radio brought you my first light year.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Casey Smith and Tyler Jones is here.

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Speaker 2: I tried to see how fast I could say at

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Speaker 2: this time, and I know that all you Northerners are

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Speaker 2: just thinking I'm speaking a different language, so sorry you are.

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Speaker 2: But good news is that what we have to say,

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Speaker 2: uh is somewhat implicative for you. But we do have

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Speaker 2: some Northern guests in today's ret Fresh Radio that's going

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Speaker 2: to really give you all the deats on what's going

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Speaker 2: down around the country. But first, Tyler Jones, the master

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Speaker 2: of all things balancing, balancing life and hunting, and I'm

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Speaker 2: actually not abo balancing stuff on your nose right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, Tyler.

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Speaker 2: We just watched a video where you were on the

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Speaker 2: ground chasing a big giant buck. I would like to

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Speaker 2: know for the folks out there, why you decided to

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Speaker 2: chase that deer around on the ground as opposed to

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Speaker 2: try to ambush that deer.

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Speaker 3: And I think this kind of applies to us.

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Speaker 4: One that hasn't been released yet. Yeah, released potentially, because

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're spending hardly any time in

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Speaker 2: Well, you could also ambush from the ground somewhere or whatever,

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Speaker 2: like groundbline.

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Speaker 4: Because he was cruising and I just felt like it

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Speaker 4: was the time was of the essence. I saw him

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Speaker 4: and I knew he was heading to a certain direction.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be on his feet for a second, so

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Speaker 4: I wait and got him.

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Speaker 2: So you just made an impulsive decision to just get

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Speaker 2: out there and get after him. Yeah, you got closed.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of the name of the game on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Thing we've found out is that you got to try

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Speaker 2: it quite a bit both so you can learn and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna mess it up sometimes, so you can't be

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Speaker 2: too in love with a deer.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's true.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that people are encountering around the

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Speaker 2: country currently is some form of rout lockdown and you

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Speaker 2: have deer that are coming in out of it, depending

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Speaker 2: on where you're at in the country, the ruts and

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Speaker 2: different stages.

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Speaker 3: But we all hear about lockdown.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about it some and you're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: some about it in today's interviews. But I do think

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Speaker 2: that one of the ways that you can overcome circumvent

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Speaker 2: what's another word for that kind of stuff round about? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can, you can, uh, you can get over lockdown

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Speaker 2: by if the deer aren't moving around, what what's the

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Speaker 2: what's the X factor?

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Speaker 3: You need to move around? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody has to move for an X and a

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Speaker 2: Y to intersect on a graph, right, And if you

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Speaker 2: trying to intersect the deer, the deer isn't moving, then

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Speaker 2: you have to move. And so I think that that's

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Speaker 2: a big, big thing that if you're struggling with lockdown,

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Speaker 2: it's a thing that you can do to potentially overcome

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Speaker 2: that stuff. Move around in the truck, on the ground,

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Speaker 2: whatever it may be, and figure out where deer is.

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Speaker 3: That way you can go hunting and killing.

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Speaker 4: M hmm, yeah, I think you know, some of our

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Speaker 4: guests this week probably have similar thoughts about some of

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Speaker 4: that stuff too. It's a good way to blow up

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Speaker 4: that's just not probably the best idea in most situations.

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Speaker 2: And also if you're hunting public land, it is public

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Speaker 2: so make those choices whenever. If you are stomping around,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh yeah. I mean, if you're doing that

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Speaker 2: Tyler. One of the questions I asked people asks people

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Speaker 4: I think it's depending dependent upon the habitat you're hunting,

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Speaker 4: probably as much as anything. But I think for the

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Speaker 2: On that's subject of doughbetting, I kind of think that

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Speaker 3: Time of day. What time of day do you think

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Speaker 4: I I like, man, this is a good question. Let

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Speaker 3: And everything becomes covered in the cover of darkness, right right.

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Speaker 4: So want to you see deer that I hit her

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Speaker 4: So a lot of times a dough or a deer

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Speaker 4: So I think I would be more apt to be

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Speaker 3: Is that what you think? I'm opposite?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think on that, And maybe it's because we're

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Speaker 3: Doughs, and so to me, well, that's what I'm thinking too.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense that you'd want to be on dobatting

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Speaker 2: That's when I think about being closer to food for

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Speaker 3: Dogs are gonna that's what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna go find some food that's potentially not in

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Speaker 3: The bucks are going to cruise through.

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Speaker 2: But I think like if you're hunting, like I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: You know, right there we're set up down wind.

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Speaker 2: I could have shot him a seven yards, you know,

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Speaker 3: So that's my thoughts on the dough betting. It's a

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Speaker 4: I thought that that one thing you could see, like

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Speaker 4: one thing I saw a lot, was deer picking up

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Speaker 3: You think that's what dough goes where she wants to?

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Speaker 3: You think he's taken her somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I think most of the time the doe goes or

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Speaker 4: really great. Like I saw one buck stomping his foot

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Speaker 4: past week I saw it happened to where it's more

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Speaker 4: can't go this way, but you can go the one

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Speaker 4: what I mean. So it's like wherever we end up

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Speaker 4: other bucks hang out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, why don't we get the opinion of everyone

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Speaker 3: Right now? Tyler, who are we talking to today?

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Speaker 4: We got Scotty Lego up in New Hampshire, a state

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Speaker 4: that we don't often have on rut Fresh and I'm

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Speaker 4: glad to have. There's a guy, he's kind of a

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Speaker 4: random guy named Clay Nukelem in Oklahoma that is going

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Speaker 4: and Paul around quite a bit. And then Alex Comstock

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Speaker 4: everybody's best friend. Josh is up there just being a

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Speaker 4: of unlike a lot of other places. Awesome, let's get

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Speaker 4: New Hampshire. Is that where you're from. Yeah, I live.

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Speaker 6: I live right on the border of Massachusetts, so I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird, dude.

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Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, we'll head over, you know, to another

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Speaker 3: Man? What you been seeing as far as whitetail movement goes, Man,

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Speaker 6: We've been having some uh, real cold mornings. I mean,

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Speaker 4: So would you say that you know, like moving into

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Speaker 4: it's real thick. Do you might you know, take a

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Speaker 3: It's similar, Yeah, I mean I've seen it.

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Speaker 6: You know when they'll they'll take a dough and you

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Speaker 2: So do you go and try to seek these places

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't go try to seek them out. I just

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Speaker 6: which is all new to me too. Like I'm still learning,

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Speaker 6: you know, I've been hunting my whole life, but I'm

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Speaker 5: As far as sit your.

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Speaker 6: Butt in the stand a lot longer than you than

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Speaker 2: So in New Hampshire there, what are we in the

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Speaker 6: I would say so, yeah, I'd say we're right in

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Speaker 6: the you know, right in the core of it. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So with the with the bucks being in lockdown this

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Speaker 6: I don't know, uh, I you know, I I can

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Speaker 6: Buck's done with with the dough, I would imagine he

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Speaker 3: Mm hm cool.

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Speaker 2: So with all that being said and kind of your

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Speaker 5: One to ten.

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Speaker 6: Well, we do have a little bit of stagnant weather

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Speaker 5: It has been epic. I don't know if it's gonna be.

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Speaker 6: Epic going going on too much longer here.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like a pretty good reason to get in

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Speaker 4: the woods. Still promising, still promising, Well, Scottie. I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the report from New Hampshire man, and hope you have

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Speaker 5: Dude, all right, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: I hope you guys get a big one here soon too.

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Speaker 2: Now we have got Clay Nukem for the Bear Grease podcast.

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Speaker 2: He's been doing some hunting in Oklahoma. Clay, what's happening

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Speaker 7: Hey man, I'll tell you what it's. I think it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You've actually, funny enough, You've had some success and

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Speaker 7: Well? I killed a buck on November thirteenth, which was

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Speaker 7: It to be a four and a half year old

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Speaker 7: I killed that deer six hundred yards away that evening

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Speaker 7: he was by himself again cruising through that pinch point

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Speaker 8: The cruising bucks like I was before, Like a week ago,

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Speaker 4: Are they eating post oak acorns right now or what's

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I opened up this buck stomach that I killed on

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Speaker 7: I've got I've got some cameras over corn, just in spots.

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Speaker 7: I didn't get to scout this place until first time

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Speaker 7: Doesn't seem like to me, but it's because there's so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still kind of waiting on a frost for

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's really all I'm gonna do. I'm just

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Speaker 7: They're not as clear as like a midwestern agfield creek

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00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 7: pinch point, you know, a big agfields on either side.

441
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 7: They're they're a little more nuanced over there because it's

442
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 7: a lot of brush, a lot of brushy stuff and

443
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 7: in some pasture no no row crop ag or anything.

444
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 7: But you'll you'll kind of find these little bands of

445
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 7: timber through there. Sure, and uh, and there's deer using them, man,

446
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 7: for sure.

447
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 4: So you've been seeing them walk down a little bit,

448
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 4: are they do? You expect them to start coming off

449
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 4: of doze as you go up there this week?

450
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 7: You know, I've never hunted over there this late. It's

451
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 7: specific and that in Oklahoma, so I don't really know,

452
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 7: but I know I'm about three hours away and in Arkansas. Man,

453
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 7: by about the twenty fifth of November, I feel like

454
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 7: most of the breeding is done now, not most of

455
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 7: the running activity. I feel like the bucks are cruising

456
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 7: and it's a fantastic time to kill a deers the

457
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 7: last week in November here, But it's not because they're

458
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 7: chasing dose. I mean, it's more like that first week

459
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 7: in November and then man by December. First my experience

460
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 7: in my part of the world in Arkansas is, Man,

461
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 7: they're like back on feed, acting like they don't care

462
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 7: a thing about it though, just just but in between

463
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 7: now and then, I think it'll be good. But I

464
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 7: think so.

465
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe you, man.

466
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: And so if you're gonna rake the buck movement on

467
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten over the next week

468
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, what are you gonna give it seven?

469
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 5: Man?

470
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 2: You already knew your number. You're ready to go seven

471
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: towards number?

472
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 7: Yep?

473
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

474
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: Does that mean okay? Since you're headed to go hunting

475
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: right now, I can give you a special guest opportunity

476
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: to call your shot.

477
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: Are you killing another buck this week?

478
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 7: Well, my son bear, I'm gonna call him killing an

479
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 7: ice deer? Nice, I'm gonna you know, there's a two

480
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 7: buck limit in Oklahoma, so I could I could shoot

481
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 7: another buck, but I'm probably gonna try to kill a

482
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 7: doe or two, and so that probably will hurt my

483
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 7: chances of killing a buck and blessed.

484
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: Ladies in the woods.

485
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I'm not opposed to shooting. I mean,

486
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 7: i'd love to kill another buck, and I'm gonna try,

487
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 7: but I don't want to get too greedy, you know.

488
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure? Cool man.

489
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you all find some success out there.

490
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for the report, sir.

491
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you.

492
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Now I've got Alex comstock with wat tail DNA and

493
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: he has been hunting his home state of Minnesota. Alex,

494
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: is it freezing there or what's it like?

495
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 7: You know, it's been a little too warm?

496
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we have we have no snow on

497
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 9: the ground, which a lot of.

498
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 7: Times we do by now, and highs are still. I

499
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 7: think it's gonna push fifty today.

500
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: So not ideal man, that's uh, you know, relatively. I

501
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: don't know if I can understand, but I guess I

502
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: know what you mean in general, the fact that it's

503
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: warmer than what it needs to be.

504
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 5: Right.

505
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: What are you doing right now? If you're used to,

506
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 2: you know, those cold attempts to adjust for what.

507
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 7: The deer doing, hoping and praying.

508
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: That's a good tactic, man, for sure. Are you Are

509
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: you struggling to see deer on the hoof right now?

510
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

511
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: It's super super sporadic.

512
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 9: I mean I haven't seen a lot of deer in

513
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 9: Minnesota this year in general, it's been a warm off fall.

514
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 7: But like.

515
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 9: You know, for example, a hunter this morning didn't see

516
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 9: a deer, had a spot where like a really good

517
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 9: buck came through on cell cam at eleven o'clock. That's

518
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 9: the first deer to hit that particular camera in.

519
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: I think a week.

520
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 9: So it's just like super sporadic, which makes things obviously

521
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 9: tougher on the hunter.

522
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, if you adjusted your camera placements for

524
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: kind of this dead middle of the rud or you

525
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: still kind of have them all in the same place

526
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 2: they have been.

527
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 9: We're always shifting them, you know, and I'm bouncing back

528
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 9: and forth between you know, still a lot of cameras

529
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 9: are on scrapes because deer inevitably you're going to hit

530
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 9: them at some point, but hard you know, between that,

531
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 9: obviously your your classic fiddles or fiddels, funnels and points.

532
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 5: You know, just trying to catch you.

533
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 9: For me, it's obviously like I'm not hutting the rut

534
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 9: trying to pattern into your own camera. I'm just trying

535
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 9: to get a picture of one knowing that he's in

536
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 9: the area per se.

537
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, So is the hot weather effect does it affect

538
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 4: deer movement during the rut do you feel like or

539
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 4: is it just gonna be what it's what it is normally.

540
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 9: I think my take on it is that it's it's

541
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 9: not going to do you any favors. How about that,

542
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 9: Like it's not like it's warm, so don't go hunting.

543
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 9: But I think yeah, I mean for us, like, you know,

544
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 9: we've had some days peeking up and pushing on the

545
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 9: sixties and you know, upper fifties, and I don't think

546
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 9: it's going to do you any favors for movement. I

547
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 9: still think deer at the end of the day are

548
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 9: running and doing their thing. But I think it could

549
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 9: encourage a little bit more nighttime movement.

550
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: Does water come into play during harder TIMPs in the rut?

551
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: Do you think?

552
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: And what if I had areas with water? You got

553
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: ten thousands? Man, come on, yeah, I.

554
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 9: Mean I could just go set up shop on the

555
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 9: edge of lakes period.

556
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: I mean, you never know, I guess sounds cold, Yeah,

557
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: for sure.

558
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: That's funny. So this week you still have stagnant weather

559
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: coming up. What what adjustments are you going to make

560
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: to still try to capitalize with.

561
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: The time you can get out?

562
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 7: Oh you cut out there.

563
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Sorry this week, you still probably have some stagnant weather

564
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: coming up, you know, for the next week or whatever.

565
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: How are you gonna capitalize on the sets that you

566
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: do get to go out?

567
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 9: Pretty much just gonna sit, you know, in the citts

568
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 9: that I do get to get out. I'm just right

569
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 9: now hunting historical stuff. So you know, I'm after a

570
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 9: few bucks that I'm hunted over the course the last

571
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 9: few years. So I put a lot of emphasis into

572
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 9: historical data. You know, I know a buck was in

573
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 9: an area over the given week. You know, there's a

574
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 9: there's an area that a couple of bucks hit a

575
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 9: lot last year over that Thanksgiving time frame in there,

576
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 9: So that's where I'm going to kind of be then.

577
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 9: So it's just kind of hunting based off that that

578
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 9: data that I've recrued over over the years.

579
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: Got you cool. So do you see historically mature books

580
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: on their feet this time of year? Like, do you

581
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: feel good about this, you know, kind of third week

582
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: in November time period?

583
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I I generally really this is I think one

584
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 9: of my more favorite weeks of the rut, given that

585
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 9: you know it's not going to be it's not what

586
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 9: everyone loves with the first week in November just deer

587
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 9: cruising like crazy. For me, it's more of the you

588
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 9: never know what could show up just be worth those

589
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 9: bucks are especially those mature year they're going for that

590
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 9: last that last few dos. And I I really enjoy

591
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 9: that time of the year because I'm used to not

592
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 9: having crazy hunts anyway, and seeing a time of year

593
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 9: and so with the thought of never know what could

594
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 9: walk around the corner is piques my interests pretty much.

595
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool.

596
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So as we look forward to this next week

597
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: with the warmer Timpson all, just knowing that it's a good,

598
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: good week for you historically, what are you going to

599
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: rank the buck movement on a scale of one to ten.

600
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 9: I am going to look at the weather right now,

601
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 9: and then we do have a cold front coming a

602
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 9: little bit on Wednesday.

603
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 7: High's Wednesday on or in the mid to low thirties.

604
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 9: So I like that, and just given that fact, I'm

605
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 9: gonna give it.

606
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 7: I want to be over a five, I.

607
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 9: Really do, So I'm gonna give it a five and

608
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 9: a half.

609
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Nice very realistic numbers there, but that cold front sounds

610
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: pretty optimistic.

611
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: Man.

612
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: I hope that you run up on one of those

613
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: big ones.

614
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.

615
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 9: I you know, I was looking at footage actually the

616
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 9: other day from a buck that I'm hunting right now,

617
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 9: and I almost shot them two years ago on the

618
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 9: sixteenth of November, and we had like probably eight inches

619
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 9: of snow. So, I mean it's a big difference. But

620
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm gonna hope and pray.

621
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: An awesome brother, will. I hope you getting appreciate all

622
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: the report.

623
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: Man, All right, thanks guys.

624
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: On the phone right now. I've got Josh Elderton.

625
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: He's everybody's best friend and he's up there in West

626
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: Virginia hanging out in the mountains.

627
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: What's going on, maun Man?

628
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 5: Nothing nice, Kyler. What's happening, buddy? Oh?

629
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: Shoot? Man?

630
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: Just sitting here with k C and talking and thinking

631
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: about deer. You know, that's how November goes, right, That

632
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: is November.

633
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: It's all about deer, all about just getting out there

634
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 5: and getting after.

635
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: It for sure. Man.

636
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: So you guys been getting after it lately in West Virginia.

637
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: What you've been seeing out there, Well, it's.

638
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 5: Been going really good. It's on like Donkey Kong here, Okay.

639
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: It started to Friday and flip the switch.

640
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, is that weather induced or was this something else?

641
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 5: I think it's weather and and you know, I'm a

642
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: moon guy, so I think it's weather and moon induced.

643
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 5: And since Friday, the deer movement has been really good.

644
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: That's good. Been good in the mornings and in the

645
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: evenings it's been and it's been a little sketchy in

646
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 5: the evening's probably the last thirty forty minutes of shooting,

647
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: like they've been moving a little bit, but the mornings

648
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: have been fire.

649
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: I got you.

650
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: So, how are you guys hunting them? What kind of

651
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: tactic are you using to get in their way?

652
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: Right now? Our focus right now has really been glassing

653
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: and hunting these old open areas in between the thickets.

654
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: We've hung a couple of times. If we found really

655
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 5: hot sign, if we find scrapes and stuff that's like

656
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: ground up coffee and happened just within a few hours,

657
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 5: we'll hang. But we're really focusing on the ground right

658
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: now and glassing and either putting them on to bed

659
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: and doing a true spot stalk, or most of the

660
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: time right now with the rut, we're playing a lot

661
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: of ambush.

662
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like fun. So let's get back to

663
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: this moon thing. Because I'm a borderline moon believer. You know,

664
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit of a skeptic, but at the

665
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: same time, I feel like there's sometimes some correlations. And

666
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: right now, you know, we're just kind of coming right

667
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: off of a big awful moon, right and so you

668
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: thought that that had an effect on the deer movement. Now,

669
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: what are we going to look at as this thing

670
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: starts to wane and kind of move into like, you know,

671
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: a half moon over the next week.

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00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: Is it Are we.

673
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: Gonna still see that uptick or is it gonna what effects.

674
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: Is it going to have?

675
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 5: I think I think that the first part of the week,

676
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a little bit slower, but you know,

677
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: it's rut, they're gonna move. But there's an uptick in

678
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: deer movement towards the end of the week, in my opinion,

679
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: by what the moon chart says it's going to do.

680
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 7: Now, I'm telling you, I'm there.

681
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: I've always just watched the moon chart, and it's like

682
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 5: when I'm out there Glass and Tyler that I won't

683
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: see any deer in like prime time from the moon chart.

684
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: Say it's nine to eleven am. And it just seems

685
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 5: like at nine or nine fifteen, I start seeing deer.

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00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

687
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: Guys, So so what what I mean, what's the food

688
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: source that you guys are out there hunting?

689
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 5: So food source wise, I mean it's a lot of brows,

690
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: a lot of sawbrars and c rps type stuff. But

691
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: you know that we've got hit with masks this year too,

692
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 5: We've got some acrons. But the deer out here, especially

693
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: in southern West Virginia, even with acrons, they still tend

694
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: to get out in the brows and the like. It's

695
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: like prairie country. These reclaim strip minds are they still

696
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: seem to get out there and that's where they like

697
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 5: to chase and crews. So that's that's really what we're

698
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: focused on. We're not focused on a lot of timber

699
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 5: hunting right now.

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00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: So on that fresh sign that you're talking about earlier,

702
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: are you finding that stuff on like little whips out

703
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: there in that open country? Are you seeing that stuff

704
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: along like the thicket lines where you're seeing rubs and

705
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: scrapes and stuff like that.

706
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: The hard edges between right there on the timber and

707
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 5: the thicket is where you're finding it. Inside of the thickets.

708
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: You know, these tickets, you can always find open areas

709
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: that you know, might only be twenty by twenty in

710
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 5: the Middle East thickets, but there might be one hundred

711
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: by one hundred in the middle of them. And inside

712
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: these tickets were seeing those hot scrapes and stuff too,

713
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: and getting in these tickets amongst them.

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00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: So what do you what do you think will happen

715
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: next week? Is it going to still be on like

716
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: Donkey Kong? Is it gonna be on like Eddy Kong?

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00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: Now it's I think that you know, we were out Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

718
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: and we were on. This was last week, so around

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00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: like the twelfth, thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth, we were out

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00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: and there was a good movement in the mornings, like

721
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 5: I said, in the evenings were a little bit slow

722
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: and they were bumping and just kind of my cruise

723
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: and the small bucks. We're out there trying to get

724
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: a jump start on the big daddies. And then Friday,

725
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, it was like a light switch. I mean,

726
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: you all experienced in anybody that's experienced, I mean, it

727
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: was just like a light switch offen Man. They was running, grunting,

728
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 5: snortweiz and fighting everything going on. And it's been like

729
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: that since Friday.

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00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: Got you so on a scale of one to ten,

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00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: and the next week, what do you think buck Movement's

732
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: going to be like.

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00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: Nine and a half?

734
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's how I like that. I like that.

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00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: I'm sitting in the office talking to you all and

736
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 5: we've got two groups out and both groups are on

737
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 5: Big Bucks this.

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00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: Morning, old baby.

739
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 5: So I know that the deer movement's really good right

740
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: now and it's going to stay that way for several

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00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: days in my opinion.

742
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that's awesome, dude.

743
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for the report, and I

744
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: hope those guys get both them bucks killed.

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00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: Thanks for the time, Josh, alright though, thank you' all.

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Speaker 5: Good luck you see