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Speaker 1: Our guest is ready to join Parked A and and

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Speaker 1: ay for extra and so well.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he's here. He has been a friend of

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Speaker 2: mine for gosh, I don't know, twenty five years or so,

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Speaker 2: a very long time. I was able to spend some

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Speaker 2: time with him this weekend. Please join me in welcoming

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Speaker 2: the Blue Meanie hey thanking his eyes up here debut today.

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Speaker 2: Are you my friend?

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Speaker 3: Excellent? Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to get you now for like seventy

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Speaker 2: two years. But you know, Blue guy's very busy.

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Speaker 1: He's a bucket list guest for the show we've been

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Speaker 1: We've definitely had him at the top of that list.

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Speaker 2: I am checking off my bucket list. First thing, I

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Speaker 2: want to say, happy belated. I reached out on your birthday,

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Speaker 2: but uh, he had a birthday a couple of days ago. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: And we're not going to disclose our age unless you

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Speaker 2: you would like to.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, see.

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Speaker 2: I tell everybody I'm fifty and I love it and

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Speaker 2: I kick and not show me in a shake.

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Speaker 4: But you know, well there's a there's a great stay

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Speaker 4: saying you're young once, but you can be immature forever.

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Speaker 3: So I've taken that route.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that because I've traveled with you

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Speaker 2: up and down the road.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into you know, backstories and whatnot. We

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Speaker 2: were together this past weekend. We're starting to show hot

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Speaker 2: with you. We didn't really We do like recaps and

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Speaker 2: we talk a little bit, but we didn't get to

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Speaker 2: today because we started right at noon. Medi and I

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Speaker 2: were uh working for Captain's Corner or a friend Nick

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Speaker 2: and Dave Cash was with us, kid Cash, and it

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Speaker 2: was a little mini re union and we had such

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Speaker 2: a good time, don't you think.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's always great when we can get together and reminisce,

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Speaker 3: It's just like the cool thing about our crew.

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Speaker 4: It's no matter how far apart, we how long it's

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Speaker 4: been since we seen each other last time, we just

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Speaker 4: pick up right where we left off.

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Speaker 2: It's true, because now I had not seen you. I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I can't even remember in the time you.

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Speaker 2: And Tracy came to our house for dinner that might

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Speaker 2: have been, and that was years ago. Yeah, but he

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Speaker 2: talks to my husband more than he talks to me.

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Speaker 2: I fended they had this little man group. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm private to it. Because I get shown some of

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Speaker 2: the conversations once in a while. If they're funny, he

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Speaker 4: And you know, but we're kids of the eighties and

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Speaker 4: a lot of our eighties humor, eighties knowledge.

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Speaker 3: And stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we have another we had another mutual friend

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Speaker 4: within there. I'll protect him so if he's innocent, but

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Speaker 4: he's married and has a family.

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Speaker 2: Now, so I know, I know who you're talking about either,

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Speaker 2: But he's another guy that was part of that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he wasn't a wrestler, but like a lot

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Speaker 4: this saying, man, if this was nineteen ninety six, you know, And.

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Speaker 4: But you know, uh yeah, we we just yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: crazy how I talked to your better half more to

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Speaker 2: But it's just the boys club is running rampant, and

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Speaker 2: it's fine because, like I said, some of these, some

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Speaker 2: so I get it.

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Speaker 5: It's all good. So what should we talk about today?

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Speaker 5: I feel like everybody.

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Speaker 2: How'd you get into the I mean, how many how

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Speaker 4: Always uh yeah, I don't want to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about an autopilot.

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Speaker 1: Tell that story, you know, I'll just have out now

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that. But I know

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Speaker 3: Your family so you can talk about anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't that great? Uh, We're gonna have to discuss

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Speaker 2: jbl and and we we talked about this over the

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Speaker 2: weekend and it's like, oh, not again. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't know how that came about. People still

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Speaker 2: ask me, and I'm just like, you know, I was

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Speaker 2: because I was part of that show. Too in a nutshell.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to go into logistics and details. But

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Speaker 2: what brought that on that evening? Because we are okay,

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Speaker 2: so backstory that I'm talking about the two thousand and

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Speaker 2: five ECW One Night Stand pay per view. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: traveled with you. We all went to New Jersey. We

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Speaker 2: all got into a van that looked like, uh it

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Speaker 5: We're going to the paper view. I was a surprise.

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Speaker 2: So Joey Styles literally put a jacket over my head

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Speaker 2: but Minia Company, we were all there. Tell us what

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Speaker 2: happened that night? Did you when you went into the building.

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Speaker 2: Was there a confrontation beforehand? Was there a heat? Did

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Speaker 4: Well, it goes back to my first run in WW.

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Speaker 4: I went into WW in ninety eight, November ninety eight,

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Speaker 4: and forever reason, you know, and again it's it's hard

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Speaker 4: forever reason Jbil now in full disclosure. Now me and

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Speaker 4: uh oh, JB I'll be I was like, yeah, we're friends.

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Speaker 4: We made up over this so forever reason there's always

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Speaker 4: And you know, once I left WWE and I was fired,

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Speaker 4: And then you know, it kept coming up. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And you know how excuse me.

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Speaker 2: You're not the first to say this about him. There

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Speaker 4: I might have been the first at that time to

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Speaker 3: This was in two thousand. When I said it, they

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Speaker 4: So I think it's a case of you know how

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Speaker 4: by time it gets to John, people have embellished and

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Speaker 4: oh man, wait till Minie you know, you hear what

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Speaker 4: Minie said about you, you know, and uh, you know

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Speaker 3: The years, like I had stopped by a w W show.

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Speaker 3: Everything was cool.

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Speaker 4: And then that day when I stand, everything was fine,

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Speaker 3: And then the skirmish at the end.

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Speaker 4: We rehearsed at we we did a whole rehearsal everything,

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Speaker 4: and you know, we're all squaring off and hey you

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Speaker 3: Right, And uh I had made a plan.

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Speaker 4: You know, who knows if we're ever going to see

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Speaker 2: Have a good time, right.

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Speaker 4: Skirmish breaks out and uh, we're going back and forth

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Speaker 4: Forever Hardcore or Hardcore homecomings, Yeah, saman busts be open,

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Speaker 4: It's John and we just you know, he does the hockey.

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Speaker 4: We start having a hockey fight, you know. He just

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Speaker 2: You can't see at this point because your face is covered.

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Speaker 2: But when you know, we all went over our stuff

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. And the ring, Huh, you were.

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Speaker 3: Tracy Smothers walks.

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Speaker 4: Up to me because I'm I'm, I'm I'm bleeding, so

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Speaker 2: In the ring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: While while it's still going on, and you see Bubba

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Speaker 2: Like I've never seen anybody like I don't mean to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I don't think you steal this.

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Speaker 2: Little mouse bruise while me and he's walking dead over here. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It was terrible.

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Speaker 2: Uh there's no fishbones around your trash cans. But you

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Speaker 5: And I remember just holding ice on your face in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and much of that ride home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were very somber. I will tell you you

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Speaker 5: Do you need anything?

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Speaker 2: But I just remember I told the lady at Wendy's,

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Speaker 4: The funny thing is we're walking back to the van

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Oh He's like, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I was like, sorry, I ruined your black panther party.

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Speaker 3: And I was just like, apologize and for something it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: You didn't have to apologize.

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Speaker 5: And I remember apologizing to Vince, and he goes stop saying.

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Speaker 4: I was like, like you said, somber and I got home,

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, I don't know, can we swear?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you could swear so And that's when I

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Speaker 4: And then I started writing blogs about it and how

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Speaker 4: we want to bring you out to uh Sacramento. This

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Speaker 4: you work at John jbl to.

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Speaker 3: I went, great, you lied to me.

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Speaker 2: First of all, anybody who ever comes on this show

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Speaker 2: but why would Tommy? Why would why did Tommy do that?

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Speaker 5: Did you?

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Speaker 2: Did you call him on it? Well?

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Speaker 4: No, no, I disfigured. They told him to tell me something.

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Speaker 4: And then they you know, plants. He's like, yeah, you're working,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? He's like, oh, yeah, he loves it. What's great?

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Speaker 4: And I'm standing there and I'm just like, this feels

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Speaker 4: He goes, meanie, you look worried. I was like well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is what's going on, and he goes, wait one minute,

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Speaker 4: he walks away, comes back, come with me, and he

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Speaker 3: Ah meanie, go sit on the couch, you know.

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Speaker 4: So I go sitting his couch and like it's this

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, this is what happened. Blah

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Speaker 4: He's like, well, I assure you mean that if John

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Speaker 6: All right, Oh all right, okay, and don't have a

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Speaker 3: I'm standing there.

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Speaker 4: And then John comes in and I just you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just bracing because I still don't feel comfortable and

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Speaker 4: you haven't.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no interactions from one night stand to

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Speaker 3: Now other than yelling at each other in gorilla position.

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Speaker 2: That's it, okay.

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Speaker 4: And so eventually a little bit he comes up, I

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Speaker 4: go talk, and it's John. I'm like, all right, so, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know you've been to TVs. There's signs everywhere, yes, seamstress,

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Speaker 3: And takes one back of the head.

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Speaker 2: Jesus.

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Speaker 3: So we go in a room. John shuts the door,

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I think you I don't know, maybe I'm

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Speaker 4: I never wanted to fight you guys, Like, as a

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Speaker 4: all this stuff. And uh, I said, hey, man, this

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Speaker 4: He's like, well, you know, uh, yes, I don't remember that.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. He's like, look, let's go out there,

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Speaker 4: you know. And he apologized most importantly apologized, and you know,

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Speaker 4: let's go out there and make some money. I was

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Speaker 4: that all right, and uh you know, you know, time

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Speaker 4: a sudden, somebody goes from ice to seeing he or

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Speaker 4: he goes, I love me, and he so, uh.

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Speaker 2: And there you go.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, but yeah, since then, you know, John's apologized. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he almost got me into the Royal Rumble in Philly.

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Speaker 4: I had just done you said, I'll be on Release

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Speaker 4: Fine three for WW with Steve Richards and Joey South.

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Speaker 4: I was like, He's like, what better way to promote

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Speaker 4: and say the.

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Speaker 3: Host of.

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Speaker 4: into out the other side and I'll be good. Yeah,

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00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: he almost got me in. It's down to me and Bubba,

440
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 4: and they chose Bubba, which is cool, you know, but

441
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: he made the effort and he's done a lot of

442
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 4: other cool things for me to help me. So you know,

443
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 4: It's the sad thing is people when it comes to something,

444
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: you know, something like that. It was an ugly incident,

445
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: and people remember the initial headline. They never they never

446
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 4: read the fine print or the retraction. When you know,

447
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: people will you know, make amends and stuff like that.

448
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 4: So me and him have been like for the last

449
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 4: since two thousand and five, been like, no, we're good.

450
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 5: Now, right right.

451
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: I was just on his podcast and people are still going,

452
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: what about that JBL thing?

453
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: I just sent him the link.

454
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: Well that's why I wanted you to talk about it again,

455
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: because you know, my listeners mightn't know the story, and

456
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: because I had you, it's it's interesting to me. One

457
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: of the things I remember going around when you went

458
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: back and worked for WWE, people were saying they, now,

459
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: this is just speculation and I don't know if there's

460
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: any truth to it. One of the rumors going around

461
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: was that they had you back there so you wouldn't

462
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: sue them.

463
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was never talking. Well, here's the thing.

464
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: After the one I stand thing happened, I went through

465
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 4: like behind the scenes, real life shit where I had

466
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: people coming at me from all sides. I had people going, man,

467
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 4: you should really sue, to the people going what a

468
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: pussy you know, and I all I did was to

469
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: say I was wrong. You know, there's some well known

470
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: people saying yeah, you could probably sue, and then people

471
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: from other companies reaching out to me saying, ah, you

472
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 4: should sue. I'm like, yeah, you want me to sue,

473
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 4: don't you. But then you know, people are like, oh,

474
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 4: have you ever worked stiff?

475
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: And I'm like, block, that was work. I was like,

476
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: it wasn't a work.

477
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 4: But like I went through a lot of shit personally,

478
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: people who thought I was being a baby about something

479
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: about being wrong and then the other people who wanted

480
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: me to sue. But you know, you know, if we're

481
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: going to you know, be real about it, h in hindsight,

482
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, looking at through my I'll say my age,

483
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 4: my forty nine year old eyes.

484
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 5: There's your age.

485
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's my age. I could block it if you

486
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: want to bleep, So just through my forty nine year

487
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: old eyes.

488
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: The whole one night stand thing might have been the

489
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 4: best thing that happened to me in a way because

490
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 4: because uh, I got you know, released from WWE. Around

491
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: that time, a grandma had passed away. We were at

492
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: Hammerstein for one of those double shots. My grandma passed away,

493
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: and then I was in a relationship and that kind

494
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: of went awry, right right right. I don't say the

495
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: name because she might pop up like Beetlejuice, but just no, no, no,

496
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: I was in a bad relationship. That relationship spawned a

497
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: wrestling company that actually enjoyed but didn't enjoy this stress

498
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: of it. But it ended very badly. So in the

499
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 4: course of you know, a couple of months that ended badly.

500
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 4: The wrestling promotion ended badly, uh you know, and then

501
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: you know, a couple other things happened with people don't

502
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 4: want to put over. I was in a really dark spot.

503
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: I was in a really bad way and maybe had

504
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 4: like twenty dollars to my name, and I just like

505
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: looking for, you know, a solution. And then I was relieved,

506
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: you know, I got invited to the ECW reunion shows,

507
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: and like during the course of that time, I kind

508
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: of stopped being the blue meanie. I was the blue

509
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: meani by name, but like I changed my look. I

510
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: was doing different things and going back to, you know,

511
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: doing one I stand and actually putting back on the

512
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: blue hair and the original makeup and the hair shirt

513
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: and the Daisy Dukes can get back out on TV.

514
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: And you know what happened when I stand was bad.

515
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: But I kind of found out like who my friends were.

516
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: I kind of you know, you know, figured out who

517
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: my true friends were. And it got me back out

518
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: there to realize, you know, the fans still care.

519
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: I had lost all confidence, I had lost all.

520
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: Every sense of worth because of I was just taking

521
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: live rounds between Grandmam's death, bad relationship, promotion, drama with that,

522
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: losing friends, all this shit was happening within that.

523
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: Course of the years.

524
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 4: I called my dark ears and then boom one night

525
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: saying happens. It sucks, But somehow it got me back

526
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: on my footing and I got back being me and

527
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: you know, yeah I did. They didn't bring me back

528
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: because and that's why I brought up the Nova thing.

529
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: They were Initially there was talks about bringing me back

530
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 4: because Noba wanted to do d BWO thing, but that

531
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: just expedited it because after the JBL match on SmackDown,

532
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: we had a little mini feud with the Mexicools and

533
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and I got to be on a

534
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 4: Grand America Bash and you know, do stuff, you know,

535
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: and then then these you know, came a calling and

536
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: got my life. I got my life back on track

537
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: because of an incident that was so bad.

538
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: And if you think about it too, it's like if

539
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: you would have sued, god knows how much money you

540
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: would have got, but it might have tarnished your wrestling career.

541
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: So if you still want to perform and be a wrestler,

542
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: you might have been blackballed, you know by certain people,

543
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: for the ones who think you're a pussy or you

544
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: couldn't take the being or whatever. You know, it might

545
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: have it like in my opinion, if you didn't want

546
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: to be in the business anymore, I would have said, yeah,

547
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: go ahead and sue. Now, if you were trying to

548
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: pursue another career, yeah go sue, trying to make a

549
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: buck or two or whatever.

550
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: But you still had, you.

551
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Know, something inside you told you not to do it,

552
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: and you bounced back and you were able to start

553
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: working again and getting on TV and doing these bigger things.

554
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 5: So you made the right decisions.

555
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and trust me. I had lawyers call me too, Yeah,

556
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: won me pro bono.

557
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: We heard, I mean there were we heard. I heard

558
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 5: all these.

559
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: Different things, and I was just like, I wonder. I

560
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: said to myself, he's not going to sue. I knew.

561
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: I knew.

562
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: I said, he's got wrestling in his veins.

563
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: I said, he's not going to do it because it's

564
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: gonna that's going to just slam a door for him.

565
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: And you know, even though you think you could get

566
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: a million dollars, you're never going to get that much

567
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: money anyway, so you might as well just.

568
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: You come out. I would probably have like fifty.

569
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: No, I think you would have got dollars.

570
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: JBL has never like with me and I I've I've

571
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: probably had about ten interactions with them over my whole

572
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: wrestling career, but I can say in those ten interactions,

573
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: he's been such a gentleman and so nice and courteous

574
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: to me. And you hear all these stories about him

575
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: and I and I know there's always two sides to

576
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: every story, but I'm just.

577
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 5: Like, man, he's so nice, like you know, and then

578
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: you have like.

579
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Other people like Justin Roberts. I read his book, and

580
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: it's terrible. You know, people do change, and it's good

581
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: that you were able to sit down and discuss things

582
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: with him and kind of smooth everything out.

583
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: But I tell you what, it was awful.

584
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really awful.

585
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: I'll never discount anybody else's experiences with John. That's between

586
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: him and those folks, right, But the John that I

587
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: eventually became friends with is way different than the John

588
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: from ninety eighty two thousand, Okay, you know, and now

589
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: that was the wild West, you know, the attitude era,

590
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: and you know, people a little crazy on the road

591
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So I could have just been

592
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: collateral damage and whatever he was going through.

593
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: And that's none of my business, but you know, you know,

594
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: it sucked.

595
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

596
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I had good time, like I had good times

597
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: in WW during the attitude too. But there's like that stuff.

598
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: And what's your favorite time? What's your favorite time? Favorite moment?

599
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: I we're discussing this this crap session. Let's let's talk

600
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: about a good moment. What was a favorite moment.

601
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: That you have? Dude?

602
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: My favorite moment was WrestleMania fifteen in my hometown of Uh.

603
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: That's awesome, dude. I was born in Philly.

604
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: Uh May May nineteen seventy three at two pm on

605
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: a Friday. Look at that, because my mom tells me,

606
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: and we did.

607
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: We had Chinese food.

608
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: Oh so uh at my mom. Every time I do

609
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: my mom's voice, it's like Edith Bunker Brian.

610
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: Uh, can you go to McDonald to get me a

611
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: black and white cheek?

612
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: Yes?

613
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: Ma?

614
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: But uh, you know I was born in South Philly.

615
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: Uh you know.

616
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: Uh, I debuted for e c W Philly, debut for

617
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 4: w W and Philly. I had my WrestleMania moment in Philly,

618
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 4: and most recently I debuted for ae W in Philly.

619
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: So get to do things in this town you were

620
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: born and uh, I'm unapologized homer when it comes to Philly,

621
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: excuse me, everything Philly, So that had to be the

622
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: cool thing. I love doing this stuff with gold Dust.

623
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: One of my favorite, one of my best matches, my

624
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: favorite matches was me and gold Dust versus the Hardy's

625
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: on Sunday Night Heat. We had a really good match

626
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: to where you know, we get to the locker room

627
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: and like people who I normally wouldn't think would put

628
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: over that match.

629
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: You know, Jerry Brisco comes up.

630
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: To me many great match, you know like that, and

631
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: you know, just to work with, you know, guys like

632
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: the Hardy's work with Edge and Christian, you know when

633
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: they were just coming up and I related a lot

634
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: to Edge, Christian and the Hardy's. You know, uh, We're

635
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: around the same age, like the same music. We're all

636
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: listening like Pearl Jam and I'm giving them my giving

637
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: them my Pearl Jam mixes on c CD, making CDs

638
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: with with thing back then. But I'm being around those

639
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: guys and relatable and stuff like that. I had met

640
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: Edge and Christian when it like I'm still an e

641
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: c W. Me and Nova did a Indie out and

642
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: Detroit and Edge and Christian won that show and it

643
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: was like three shows, so uh. Nova decides to rib

644
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: Edge and Christian. He's like, hey, guys, I picked out

645
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: your ring music for you. They're like, we're ready, So yeah, he's.

646
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: Edge and Christian are getting ready to go to the ring.

647
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, girls and cars start playing playing

648
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: and they the ring and they started. They both had

649
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: this really good Rick martel impersonation where you know, they're

650
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: doing the jumping up and down like Rick does and

651
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And then we uh had to do

652
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: a run in on their match, and we run in

653
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: and this is around like Christmas time in Detroit and

654
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: there's like a Santa Claus at the show and then me, Edge,

655
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: Christian and Nova alterned heel in Santa Claus and beat

656
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: beat him up.

657
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: This is the second time you've turned heel on Santa Claus,

658
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: by the way, because the first time we talked about

659
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: this over the weekend. What's you and Stevie in Times Square?

660
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, which is one of my.

661
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: Favorite promos ever when they super kick.

662
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 4: Sacle and that was just a guy on the street.

663
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: That's that's the beauty of ECW. You do those Wan

664
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: and Gum promos. We're filming and this guy goes I want.

665
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: To be on TV. And we're like, can you take

666
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: a Stevie kick?

667
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: And he's like looking as to what and we explained

668
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: it and Stevie walking and the one the air was

669
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: the second take we did it. H we have to

670
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: do that again and the guy had to take it

671
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: what you know, concrete, the nasty plunge. He took the

672
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: nexty plunge on concrete and got up and we're like, okay,

673
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: thanks bye and we'll walking.

674
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: You know.

675
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: It's like heyday, And I was like, it's c c W.

676
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so great. I love that. That's one of

677
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: my favorites, next to Premium where which ukas start with me?

678
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 5: And and uh people love that for sure.

679
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: Many a man hated me for intellect in that commercial.

680
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: It was so great, funniest.

681
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: C c W story that you can think of off

682
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 5: the top of your head.

683
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: Oh my god, one of them, one of them.

684
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: It could be at the travel Lodge. It doesn't have

685
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: to be. Travel Lodge is put over a lot on

686
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: this show.

687
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 4: But that building we called, I call it the cylinder

688
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 4: of sin, a spherical and it looks like it needs

689
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: a condom on it.

690
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: Uh yes, I agree, but uh.

691
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: Probably One of my favorite moments is, you know, we

692
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: were I was wrestling Jason Knight around the loop and uh,

693
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: you know we would have you know, Jason was kind

694
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 4: of enough to put me over excuse me pin one

695
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: two three, and I was doing the y m C

696
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: A gimmick that I had we eventually did on Wressell

697
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: plus ninety eight, but before that, we're going around loop

698
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: a Jason and having this quick little match pin them

699
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: one two three, why m c I. And we come

700
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: back through the curtain and I want to say it

701
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: was Allentown or uh oh my god, that place Downingtown, Downingtown,

702
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: thank you. Come through the curtain in Downingtown and there's

703
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: Shane Douglas, Big Did Dougley and the rest of the

704
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: locker room going why yeah, Well because the music is

705
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 4: still playing. I mean I just see Big Nick Dougley

706
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: doing the YMCA and then doing at the e CW arena.

707
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: You see these guys in like leather biker jackets going

708
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: oh why yeah, you know, just to get the e

709
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 4: c W crowd to do the y m c A.

710
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a fun moment. You know, does a

711
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: fun loop in time? You know, as far as stories

712
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: go that I could tell.

713
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well a lot of it's in the vault

714
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: and we unders Dan, how many times have you pooped

715
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: your pants.

716
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: In the rink in my career? Three times?

717
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: But I'm not zero. Just to let you know, rookie,

718
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: I know work.

719
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: It was like January third, eight? Yeah, you know, would

720
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: you believe I read? Okay, let me tell the story first.

721
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: I know this because uh, me Nova and Randy samd

722
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: guy drove out to Detroit for these the Sloop of

723
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 4: shows and uh they picked me up on New Year's Day,

724
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: which is you know, the mummers parayed, so it's com

725
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: forever to find my house. We drove halfway, so it

726
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: might have been January second, so we do. We're doing

727
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: a show in Inkster, Michigan at a community center.

728
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: Is this for WWE?

729
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: For ECW?

730
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: Oh, it's for ECW okay.

731
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: And the cool thing about doing this show is, you know,

732
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: I started my career out in Ohio and Michigan. So

733
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: I had wrestled in this building as Brian Rollins, as

734
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: Ebra Kid, and now have come back as the Blue

735
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: Meanie and all the fans that watched me on the

736
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: Michigan indie scene are watching me at this show, which

737
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: is kind of cool. So I wrestling Jason again. You know,

738
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: two minutes into the match, he closed, I take a

739
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: flat back and a hair you know, it's it's kind

740
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: of like this.

741
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: And uh, that's the second time we heard that.

742
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 4: I have a.

743
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: I have a Roadcaster Pro which has a sound born

744
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: on it.

745
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, we have to get one of those.

746
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: Breaking news. You know.

747
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: Therese that again, you popped because that's one of my

748
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: text tones.

749
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: It's like, what the hell, you're so billy?

750
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: So, you know, he closed last me and in my pants,

751
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, but I know it wasn't mess.

752
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: It was like more like a like a tater tot.

753
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: But uh, it's just like.

754
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: So we're wrestling and he, you know, snap mares me over,

755
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: puts me in the chin lock and I'm just wafting

756
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: in it, and uh Bill Wilds was managing me at

757
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: the time.

758
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: He was boogle boogoloo Bill Wiles.

759
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: And the smell of this hits ring side and Bill

760
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: doesn't know it's me.

761
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so he goes, oh, you people. He looks at

762
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: the cracker.

763
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 4: You people stick to the other side of the ring.

764
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 3: So the smell hits the other side.

765
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: He goes, oh town bathe you know, so we finished

766
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: the match.

767
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: I had to miss the moon salt and all this.

768
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 3: Do you imagine in my days, duke uh.

769
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: I go into the locker room and sam Man stooped

770
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: me off. The word got back to the locker room

771
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: when had happened, and dames like yows, and I don't

772
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: even go in the locker room.

773
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: I go right for the showers. I peel off, you know,

774
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: blah blah boom. I got one.

775
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: I got one shower hit me in the head, one

776
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 4: shower you know, from you know, behind, like I'm hosing

777
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: off like a circus elephant. And I didn't know that

778
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 4: it felt it, but you know, better be safe either way.

779
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: Paul walks in in the west locker room and they're just.

780
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: Like golf clap, yeah, so.

781
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: Clean up, and I go and throw my underwear on

782
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: the roof, you know, stat being a gentleman throwing the trash.

783
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: So I was like, let me get rid of the evidence.

784
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: Threw it on the hook. Did the cream abdul jabbar

785
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: skyhook under the roof. And I recently just went on

786
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: Google Earth and.

787
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: Looked up the building to.

788
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 4: See I was waiting to see it, like if there's

789
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: a chalk outline around him, like.

790
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: Maybe a bird took them or something, and then the

791
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: bird got disgusted and he'd like spit them out.

792
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: Bathe.

793
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I can attest to how bad your gas is because

794
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: we've traveled together a lot.

795
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 5: I've shared a locker room with you for years.

796
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: The funniest story I might have read it before, but

797
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: now that you're here, I have to say it again.

798
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 5: We weren't.

799
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: It wasn't e c W. I think it might have

800
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: been a loop for Shane Douglas that we were on

801
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: right home coming. We were somewhere and we had gone

802
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: either to a restaurant, rest up or to eat, and

803
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: we were coming back getting into a car, and next

804
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: to our car was another car and there was a

805
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: woman sitting in the car. Yes, well she was in

806
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: there and her window unfortunately was down. Menie stands in

807
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: front of stands.

808
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: In front of her window, put the window.

809
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: And passes gas right in this.

810
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: I thought, I thought it was one of those things.

811
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: I thought, like some so I like to rib right.

812
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: You know when I worked in the casinos, you know,

813
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: uh in Atlantic City, you know, I was working doing

814
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: garage duty if somebody had their winding down reaching and

815
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 4: turned the volume knob up on the radio this you know.

816
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, look, windows down. I didn't

817
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: see the lady he farted.

818
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: It was loud and just crude.

819
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: And I went, what.

820
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: Around? Oh ate my face? Red face.

821
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: She looked like she was gonna face just turned milk white.

822
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: And she was like oh, she gasped. I was what.

823
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: I get in the car and go what what are

824
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: you doing? He's like, oh, I didn't know she was there?

825
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: I said, you did you do? Up?

826
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: God?

827
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 4: There's one time was running in Dayton for heat wave.

828
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: I have a friend Jeremiah and Uh. I stayed at

829
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: his house he loves right over in Kentucky and we

830
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: go to Uh I want to say, King's Dominion, and

831
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: there's a top gun ride.

832
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: I had the worst gas that day.

833
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: And we're we're on stairs going up this ride and

834
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: we're just waiting our turn, and I just went, hey, guys, guys,

835
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: and there's a family behind me. People are behind me

836
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: and I didn't even look. But my friend Jeremiah, the

837
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 4: look on his face watching them, he was he had

838
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: tears coming down his eyes, like he was eating hot wings.

839
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: It would have been great if you know how they

840
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: take pictures on the rides, if you would have farted

841
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: and the flashmoman went off and the people are behind

842
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: you disgusted.

843
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, moment the moment of impact.

844
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: Ye I stopped the concert with the fart once.

845
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: Swear to God, Remember remember why I was?

846
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: Remember why I was skinny?

847
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: Mean me for a second there, get down to like

848
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 4: two forty. I was neither the could they. I was

849
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: doing the protein thing. And we're we went to see

850
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 4: a band called the Atomic Punks at the Whiskey of

851
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: Go Go in Hollywood. Now, the singer and guitar player

852
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: from the Atomic Punks went on to become Steel Panther

853
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: Michael and Satchel whatever his name is now they keep

854
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 4: changing their names. And I was just on a tear

855
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: and uh, I was losing weight. But we're at the

856
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 4: show and there's a group of women behind me dancing

857
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: and they keep pumping into me. I'm just like, I'm

858
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: like watching the band, and I'm like, you know, it's

859
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: like I'm being rear rend like slowly rearrended, you know.

860
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: So I was like, oh man, and then like they're

861
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: grabbing on my I'm wearing a bwo shirt like tank top,

862
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: you know, a muscle shirt without the muscles, and yeah,

863
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 4: they're grabbing the back of my shirt and like re

864
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: eating it, and I'm just like, ew, I just snuzzled

865
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: my butt cheeks on the one lady's thigh and just

866
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 4: let it fucking rip.

867
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: It was warm too, It's.

868
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: Like you could have opened mail with it. Oh the glue.

869
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden they went. They were like

870
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: behind me dancing. They were dancing like this. I turned around.

871
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: They're like, you know, dancing like this, you know, with

872
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: their shirts.

873
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: Over their Faece didn't stop dancing.

874
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 4: Made it put you over except for this Oh no,

875
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: but and but like the main band hadn't come on yet.

876
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: So I'm just like I let the one go.

877
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 4: And it's kind of like in White Vampires into your house,

878
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: there's it brings friends.

879
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh no, there's more. So like

880
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, I'm.

881
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 5: Like mm hmm, like a trumpet with an asshole.

882
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: You got your own.

883
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: Band, Dizzy Gillespie with the cheeks puffed out, And eventually

884
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: somebody at the bar.

885
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: At the back of the fucking whiskey goes, please stop farting.

886
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: Ahead one hundred yards away, yes, sir, stop.

887
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: Dude. It was nuclear.

888
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: It was like I can't. Yeah, the band We Go

889
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: to Sea comes on and like I'm I'm I'm clenched.

890
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: I'm trying not to because I really want to enjoy

891
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: this band. Yeah, I'm a bad band, handle Mark. So

892
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: I was making this part up. They're playing the song

893
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: you Really Got Me, and uh, this Ralph Michael Starr

894
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: a K. Michael Stars walking towards me, and I'm like,

895
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: oh no, so I let it.

896
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: We'll let one go.

897
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: And it's like he's walking this this way and my

898
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: heart's going up this way and it's just like that

899
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: they two ships meeting in the night just and he

900
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 4: he just went, oh, microphone.

901
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: I was showing aleg and it's stop, stop stop, He's

902
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: fucking he's waving his arm, he's just WHOA.

903
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: The stops playing and he goes, oh, somebody in the

904
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: crowd is shipp there. Every hand in the bar pointed

905
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: to me, and I was just like, man, I was with, uh,

906
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: who's the guy who did the photos for e c

907
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: W dot com? Quickly U yeah, yeah, I messaged his brother,

908
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: thinking it was him. I was like remember that time

909
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: I stopped the band. He's like, no, that's my brother Jim,

910
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: and here's all.

911
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: Over my face. Right now I'm crying.

912
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: Jim quigly.

913
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: Testified on my behalf that yeah, I stopped the contract

914
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 4: with Afar.

915
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: I'll send you that's great photographic proof.

916
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I can't breath. Well, I I can attest

917
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: because I've smelt it several times. Yeah, that's the only

918
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: word I could use.

919
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 3: My grandma would say, I think you need a physic.

920
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: No, well, if you're not going to the bathroom, yeah,

921
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: if you're just gassy, but if you're moving your bowels regularly, now,

922
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: no physics need it. You just need some for breeze

923
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: and uh air. Yeah, not to be such in a

924
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: tight space. But yeah, you know, you know who needs

925
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: to talk about where he started and who trained you

926
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: because we're talking about shipping farts and good stuff, and that's.

927
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: What knock down JVL like that with a fart in

928
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: the ring.

929
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: That night, and then that would have never happened.

930
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: I used to discuss Al Snow with my farts because,

931
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: like he, we would be bad. I was training with

932
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: Al and like you know, we'd be on the in

933
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 4: the ring doing the thing. I would just let one

934
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: go and I would do the rick Steiner around the ring,

935
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: like run around the ring, just a fucking vapor trail everybody,

936
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 4: and everybody would just, you know, eliminate themselves out of

937
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: the ring.

938
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, fart on me too.

939
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh he had bad, he's bad.

940
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: He's stunk too. And he would if you ever noticed,

941
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: like if he would back me up in the corner

942
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: and stand in front of me in the corner, that's

943
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: when he would fart.

944
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: He would do the Andre the Giant, I.

945
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: Suppose, but I mean we're on TV. I'm trying to

946
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: be mean. And then I would go, did you just

947
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: shake your pants like you smell? Like it was disgusting.

948
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 4: He wasn't as bad as h All Brack or whatever.

949
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh I remember, yeh.

950
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: He used to drink the egg beaters in the locker

951
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: room and just annihilated.

952
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 5: But I haven't heard that name in years.

953
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: Brocus, brock Brocus, Yeah, no, it was the other dude.

954
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 5: There was another big guy we had.

955
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: What was his name, I don't know that. I thought

956
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: that was the name.

957
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: You just said Broncus. His real name was Brockets.

958
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: I know who that is.

959
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 5: He was the dude that we w W.

960
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Was grooming and then with right yeah yeah, and he

961
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: wore the chains he disappeared.

962
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think the wrestling business before him.

963
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. But it was for you,

964
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you never left it. We're all better

965
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: to have you still around.

966
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate and I'm.

967
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: So glad that you and I are still friends and

968
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: kept in touch after all these years. For those who

969
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: don't know where can we find MENI, what kind of

970
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: merch do you have? This is going to take twenty minutes, everybody,

971
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: But if give us a home down on socials and

972
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: all that kind of.

973
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: Stuff, well I've gotten this pitch down to a t.

974
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: If you well, first of all, I have my own

975
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: podcast to mine. In the Meanie Podcast, we drops every

976
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: Monday morning at six am, myself and Adam Bernard talk

977
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: everything from wrestling, movie, sports, and useless knowledge. If you

978
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: would like to support the Blue Meani, go to or

979
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: actually go to mine Ademeni dot com or go to

980
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: YouTube dot com slash Mineandemeani. If you would like to

981
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: support the Blue Meani, go to Pro Wrestling Teas dot com,

982
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: slash Mineandemanie or slash Blue Meanie, where you can get

983
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 4: some very nifty Blue Meeni t shirts, including the BWO shirt,

984
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: which I still sell to this day. If you want

985
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: to follow me on, I thank you. If you would

986
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: like to follow me on all my social media's go

987
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: to whatever that social medi is Slash Blue meen e, BWO, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

988
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: and TikTok, which I kind of haven't.

989
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: Figured out yet, but you know that's for the kids, man,

990
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: and it is what it is.

991
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: You know.

992
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to do a video and then somebody's

993
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 4: you know, does their reaction.

994
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: To it, and just videos. I bet you that would

995
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: get over with the Yeah, you'd be over that if

996
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: it works out. Are you any work uh coming up?

997
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Do you have any gigs that we should know about?

998
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: Uh? May twenty eighth, I will be at fair Point Toys.

999
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: My good friend Justin Daniels and Penelope's White Penelope have

1000
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: a really cool collectible store in maze Landing, New Jersey

1001
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: called far Point Toys. They're doing a little uh toy

1002
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: fair and I'm gonna have my blue Miniaction figures and

1003
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: some ten So come on out and say hello.

1004
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: May twenty eight, far Point Toys. Uh, Maize Landing, New Jersey.

1005
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: Right, well, I must say this was very entertaining and therapeutic, therapeutic,

1006
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: long overdue. Again, I hate to, uh, you know, the

1007
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: wind on the past, but I like a lot of

1008
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: and to be honest with you, there was a lot

1009
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: of things you told us today that I didn't know.

1010
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: So I'm glad.

1011
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have closure now the whole situation.

1012
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, there's like certain things you know, your family,

1013
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 4: so whatever you say is you know, you can say

1014
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: whatever you want. But like if somebody else came up,

1015
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: like a stranger who doesn't know me that well, came

1016
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: up in the streets said something similar like yeah, mind

1017
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 4: your business power you know, it's it's you know, we're family,

1018
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: so we could talk.

1019
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I didn't say anything out of line.

1020
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: I just a lot of a lot of a lot

1021
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: of doors were still open that didn't have any resolutions

1022
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: to them, so I needed to Now we're shutting the

1023
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: doors and everything's good.

1024
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: You heard it here.

1025
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 2: Stop asking me because there's the story.

1026
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: Yea, it is there.

1027
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: It is.

1028
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 5: But I love you, buddy, I love you too, and

1029
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: we'll have you on for.

1030
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Part two because I feel like there's more fun that

1031
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: we need to get out of you so down the line, so.

1032
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: Much, so much.

1033
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 5: Is a good word.

1034
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully you and I will be together in another signing

1035
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: because this weekend was was a good time and so.

1036
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: I have a like a mini road trip. It was,

1037
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: it was, it was easy.

1038
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: And fun and those are the best times.

1039
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 5: But we'll talk soon. Give missus meeting my love and.

1040
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: I will I'll be in touch absolutely, all.

1041
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: Right, doll, thank you so much, take care bye.

1042
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: All right, we got to get out of here now

1043
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: because we got some stuff waiting in the wings.

1044
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: Okay, fabulous. Where can people find.

1045
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: You at chatty and be on Twitter at IB Exclusives,

1046
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: on Instagram, ibexclusives dot com. If you want a perfectly

1047
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: rated shirt, got a couple left, just reach out to

1048
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: me and we'll get it to you, all right.

1049
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: And across the board on social media. For myself, you

1050
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: can find me at ec W Diva Francine And with

1051
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: that that is a wrap.