WEBVTT - TELL ME MORE: Naomi Johnson 

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<v Speaker 1>Adam, Adam Aden, Caryl Lone. She's a queen and talking

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<v Speaker 1>and so she's getting really.

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<v Speaker 2>Not afraid to fail.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode, so just let it flow. No one can

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<v Speaker 1>do we quiet, Cary Lone. It sound like Carolne.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back with Nay Johnson. We had your life story

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<v Speaker 3>and your journey, your musical journey on Monday, and I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I have had the privilege of knowing you for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time and having some chapters of my own

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<v Speaker 3>life with you, and it was just like really cool

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<v Speaker 3>to see how you are just speaking your truth and

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<v Speaker 3>being your truth in your music, your marriage, motherhood, all

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<v Speaker 3>that you are. It's exciting. I feel like you are

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<v Speaker 3>like truly in a season of just like this is

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<v Speaker 3>like the moment because it's all come together for you

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<v Speaker 3>to actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like a special Yeah, a special season for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You have two songs out, you're putting a full length

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<v Speaker 3>album out, you're married.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you have a lot. Wow, when you put

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<v Speaker 2>it that way, I am winning.

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<v Speaker 3>So like got to God came back to this life

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<v Speaker 3>with like a whole new vision of life itself and

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<v Speaker 3>death and just the whole process of being human. You're

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<v Speaker 3>really wise. You've got a lot of wisdom you so

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for sharing. And now we're going to draw

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<v Speaker 3>off some cards. So just pick three cards and will

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<v Speaker 3>tell me more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which you're called feeling this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling this one okay. And I'm feeling this one okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're not tarot cards, they're wisdom. Okay, maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>one because it fell.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh these two? Yeah, they want you Okay, Okay, that's five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could be famous for something, what would you

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be? Hmmm? Probably it could be famous

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<v Speaker 2>for something. I don't really really want to be that famous.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that. Probably being a great storyteller. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love that. Okay, Okay. Next, what's a gift someone gave

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<v Speaker 2>you that you'll never forget. I have a beautiful five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand year old arrowhead that my brother gave me. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's even a little bit older, but it's around

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand years old and it means a lot to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a ceremonial piece. He finds. He has thousands of arrowheads.

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<v Speaker 2>He has like a gift in finding them, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>something I really really cherish. I cherish that airhead. It

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<v Speaker 2>has so much energy on it. Really you can feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's crazy. It's amazing. And I carry

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<v Speaker 2>it around with me. And do you feel something when

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<v Speaker 2>you create a out with you? Yeah, I feel I

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<v Speaker 2>feel protection from it. I feel it reminds me again

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<v Speaker 2>to like get outside, and sometimes it calls me to

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<v Speaker 2>build fires. I know that sounds weird, but sometimes I'll

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I need to build a fire when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with there.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's pretty weird. But know where that

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<v Speaker 2>comes from. If you could make a wish come true

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<v Speaker 2>for someone else, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 3>M M.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish some healing for a couple of people that

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<v Speaker 2>come into my head, spiritual and physical, and I wish

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<v Speaker 2>that comes true, and maybe it will. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>when you imagine your happy place, where is it and

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing there? I'm sitting in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a creek in a creek bed, probably pretty cool,

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<v Speaker 2>But I love I love like thick, dense forest, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way it sounds, and I love the

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<v Speaker 2>way it feels, and I love the way I feel

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm in it. And I also living in the mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>like so, mountains are a pyramid shape, and streams that

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<v Speaker 2>are on mountains are turbocharged with energy, good energy, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if you put your feet in a creek in

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<v Speaker 2>a mountain, it's like it's amazing. So that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>see myself in a happy place. Okay, I love that

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<v Speaker 2>was the highlight of your day today. This This and

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter she woke up this morning and she sat

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<v Speaker 2>right up and she said Paka and that's her grandpa,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what she calls him. And he's here right now

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<v Speaker 2>taking like he's so cute with her. But she has

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<v Speaker 2>a really special relationship with him. I didn't know my grandparents,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's really beautiful to watch that. That's amazing. But

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<v Speaker 2>this reconnected with you, I'm like, oh, getting to dive

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<v Speaker 2>deep intogether again, that's been like definitely my highlight. Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>How life?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, like getting older going through all these seasons,

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<v Speaker 3>you realize all these chapters are so important and they're

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<v Speaker 3>so cool and like even like some of themes we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about about your life on the podcast, like some

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<v Speaker 3>of them were painful in the season, but like you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of look back and it's like, wow, that really

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<v Speaker 3>made you into this incredible person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and if you well it also it's funny. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like this is so cliche, but like your life prepares

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<v Speaker 2>you for your life. Oh it really does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like Carolyn, I grew up in a bus with nine

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<v Speaker 2>people and then like that became my life. I like

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<v Speaker 2>lived on a bus with eight seven or eight people

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<v Speaker 2>and way nicer us and way nicer bunk. But it

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<v Speaker 2>did like those closed spaces, like some people are in

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<v Speaker 2>complete and utter culture shock when they get out on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and they you know, it takes a minute

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<v Speaker 2>to integrate. But like I was like, oh I know

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<v Speaker 2>this well you know ready, Yeah, it's so interesting, And

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<v Speaker 2>I've had so many of those where it just like

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<v Speaker 2>I felt prepared for certain times.

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<v Speaker 3>And chapters do end. That's another thing I have learned

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<v Speaker 3>a lot in my life is like it's okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like sometimes it's so people want to fight the ending

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<v Speaker 3>of a chapter, but like sometimes it does needs to end,

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<v Speaker 3>and then because you allow it to, it creates space

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<v Speaker 3>for all because like if you're holding space, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>that needs to be over you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like even learning to recognize when the chapter's ending.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think maybe sometimes I've been there where I've

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<v Speaker 2>fought against the end of a chapter because I just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't be a wisdom to know that that's what was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's too scary coming to an end, right, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's too scary to close it, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's there's funny. Our pastor used this analogy once. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, imagine the ski season ending and like someone's

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<v Speaker 2>out there and they're shorts, like skiing down the mountain

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<v Speaker 2>where there's no snow, Like the season's over, dude, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get hurt now if you don't let the

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<v Speaker 2>season go, So you need to take your skis off

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<v Speaker 2>and go to the water. It was just interesting. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, that's so true, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>something maybe we'll learn. I'll go probably learn that my

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<v Speaker 2>whole life. But like you know, sometimes season's end and

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<v Speaker 2>you're scared of it or you're not really sure that

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's happening, and like, yeah, have.

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<v Speaker 3>Led to something really much more beautiful than you could

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<v Speaker 3>have imagined. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I haven't done anything that didn't scare

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<v Speaker 2>me to death that wasn't like the best thing I

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<v Speaker 2>ever did, including getting pregnant. I was terrified when I

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<v Speaker 2>got pregnant. I was like, oh my god, what were

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<v Speaker 2>you scared of? I had a lot of career fear.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that a ton. Yeah, And I immediately started

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<v Speaker 2>looking around for like other women that had done it,

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody, hardly anyone having a.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby as a female singers is like, yeah, kiss of death.

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<v Speaker 2>It made it a piss of death, and I you

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<v Speaker 2>just have to make it look the way that you

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<v Speaker 2>want it to look, because there aren't a lot of examples.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had a ton of career fear and then

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<v Speaker 2>that started to subside once I started making a new record.

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<v Speaker 2>But like without her being born, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm put onto this path of like really singing

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<v Speaker 2>about my life like this, and it's the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>I ever did. So yeah, I think that the having

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<v Speaker 2>a family was probably something I was like really really

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<v Speaker 2>scared about, and that was a chapter that was I

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<v Speaker 2>also really wanted, you know, I didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to look like. So yeah, and so now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in this chapter and it's so like fruitful and

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<v Speaker 2>juicy and like full of creativity, and it's tough, it's hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's so good and it's so good. Everything that

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<v Speaker 2>I do in a day that's like so hard at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, it's just so worth it. Like I say,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the like the highest ecstasy and the lowest

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<v Speaker 2>depression every single day. No no I as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Naomi, thank you so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>This was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone her new music follow you on Instagram Naomi Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>and new album coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And Autumn in the right autumn.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, bye, thank you bye.