Speaker 1: Adam, Adam Aden, Caryl Lone. She's a queen and talking
Speaker 1: and so she's getting really.
Speaker 2: Not afraid to fail.
Speaker 1: This episode, so just let it flow. No one can
Speaker 1: do we quiet, Cary Lone. It sound like Carolne.
Speaker 3: We're back with Nay Johnson. We had your life story
Speaker 3: and your journey, your musical journey on Monday, and I
Speaker 3: mean I have had the privilege of knowing you for
Speaker 3: a long time and having some chapters of my own
Speaker 3: life with you, and it was just like really cool
Speaker 3: to see how you are just speaking your truth and
Speaker 3: being your truth in your music, your marriage, motherhood, all
Speaker 3: that you are. It's exciting. I feel like you are
Speaker 3: like truly in a season of just like this is
Speaker 3: like the moment because it's all come together for you
Speaker 3: to actually.
Speaker 2: Feels like a special Yeah, a special season for sure.
Speaker 3: You have two songs out, you're putting a full length
Speaker 3: album out, you're married.
Speaker 2: I mean you have a lot. Wow, when you put
Speaker 2: it that way, I am winning.
Speaker 3: So like got to God came back to this life
Speaker 3: with like a whole new vision of life itself and
Speaker 3: death and just the whole process of being human. You're
Speaker 3: really wise. You've got a lot of wisdom you so
Speaker 3: thank you for sharing. And now we're going to draw
Speaker 3: off some cards. So just pick three cards and will
Speaker 3: tell me more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you're called feeling this one?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling this one okay. And I'm feeling this one okay.
Speaker 2: And they're not tarot cards, they're wisdom. Okay, maybe that
Speaker 2: one because it fell.
Speaker 3: Oh these two? Yeah, they want you Okay, Okay, that's five.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Let's see what they say.
Speaker 2: If you could be famous for something, what would you
Speaker 2: want it to be? Hmmm? Probably it could be famous
Speaker 2: for something. I don't really really want to be that famous.
Speaker 2: I get that. Probably being a great storyteller. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: love that. Okay, Okay. Next, what's a gift someone gave
Speaker 2: you that you'll never forget. I have a beautiful five
Speaker 2: thousand year old arrowhead that my brother gave me. And
Speaker 2: maybe it's even a little bit older, but it's around
Speaker 2: five thousand years old and it means a lot to me.
Speaker 2: It's a ceremonial piece. He finds. He has thousands of arrowheads.
Speaker 2: He has like a gift in finding them, and that's
Speaker 2: something I really really cherish. I cherish that airhead. It
Speaker 2: has so much energy on it. Really you can feel it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's crazy. It's amazing. And I carry
Speaker 2: it around with me. And do you feel something when
Speaker 2: you create a out with you? Yeah, I feel I
Speaker 2: feel protection from it. I feel it reminds me again
Speaker 2: to like get outside, and sometimes it calls me to
Speaker 2: build fires. I know that sounds weird, but sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: feel like I need to build a fire when I'm
Speaker 2: with there.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's pretty weird. But know where that
Speaker 2: comes from. If you could make a wish come true
Speaker 2: for someone else, what would it be?
Speaker 3: M M.
Speaker 2: I wish some healing for a couple of people that
Speaker 2: come into my head, spiritual and physical, and I wish
Speaker 2: that comes true, and maybe it will. I love that
Speaker 2: when you imagine your happy place, where is it and
Speaker 2: what are you doing there? I'm sitting in the middle
Speaker 2: of a creek in a creek bed, probably pretty cool,
Speaker 2: But I love I love like thick, dense forest, and
Speaker 2: I love the way it sounds, and I love the
Speaker 2: way it feels, and I love the way I feel
Speaker 2: when I'm in it. And I also living in the mountains,
Speaker 2: like so, mountains are a pyramid shape, and streams that
Speaker 2: are on mountains are turbocharged with energy, good energy, and
Speaker 2: so if you put your feet in a creek in
Speaker 2: a mountain, it's like it's amazing. So that's where I
Speaker 2: see myself in a happy place. Okay, I love that
Speaker 2: was the highlight of your day today. This This and
Speaker 2: my daughter she woke up this morning and she sat
Speaker 2: right up and she said Paka and that's her grandpa,
Speaker 2: that's what she calls him. And he's here right now
Speaker 2: taking like he's so cute with her. But she has
Speaker 2: a really special relationship with him. I didn't know my grandparents,
Speaker 2: so it's really beautiful to watch that. That's amazing. But
Speaker 2: this reconnected with you, I'm like, oh, getting to dive
Speaker 2: deep intogether again, that's been like definitely my highlight. Isn't
Speaker 2: it cool?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: How life?
Speaker 3: And I think, like getting older going through all these seasons,
Speaker 3: you realize all these chapters are so important and they're
Speaker 3: so cool and like even like some of themes we
Speaker 3: talked about about your life on the podcast, like some
Speaker 3: of them were painful in the season, but like you
Speaker 3: kind of look back and it's like, wow, that really
Speaker 3: made you into this incredible person.
Speaker 2: Yes, and if you well it also it's funny. It's
Speaker 2: like this is so cliche, but like your life prepares
Speaker 2: you for your life. Oh it really does. I mean,
Speaker 2: like Carolyn, I grew up in a bus with nine
Speaker 2: people and then like that became my life. I like
Speaker 2: lived on a bus with eight seven or eight people
Speaker 2: and way nicer us and way nicer bunk. But it
Speaker 2: did like those closed spaces, like some people are in
Speaker 2: complete and utter culture shock when they get out on
Speaker 2: the road and they you know, it takes a minute
Speaker 2: to integrate. But like I was like, oh I know
Speaker 2: this well you know ready, Yeah, it's so interesting, And
Speaker 2: I've had so many of those where it just like
Speaker 2: I felt prepared for certain times.
Speaker 3: And chapters do end. That's another thing I have learned
Speaker 3: a lot in my life is like it's okay, you know,
Speaker 3: like sometimes it's so people want to fight the ending
Speaker 3: of a chapter, but like sometimes it does needs to end,
Speaker 3: and then because you allow it to, it creates space
Speaker 3: for all because like if you're holding space, it's something
Speaker 3: that needs to be over you can't.
Speaker 2: Or like even learning to recognize when the chapter's ending.
Speaker 2: And I think maybe sometimes I've been there where I've
Speaker 2: fought against the end of a chapter because I just
Speaker 2: didn't be a wisdom to know that that's what was happening.
Speaker 2: When it's too scary coming to an end, right, I know,
Speaker 2: or it's too scary to close it, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's there's funny. Our pastor used this analogy once. He
Speaker 2: was like, imagine the ski season ending and like someone's
Speaker 2: out there and they're shorts, like skiing down the mountain
Speaker 2: where there's no snow, Like the season's over, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get hurt now if you don't let the
Speaker 2: season go, So you need to take your skis off
Speaker 2: and go to the water. It was just interesting. I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's so true, and I think that's
Speaker 2: something maybe we'll learn. I'll go probably learn that my
Speaker 2: whole life. But like you know, sometimes season's end and
Speaker 2: you're scared of it or you're not really sure that
Speaker 2: that's what's happening, and like, yeah, have.
Speaker 3: Led to something really much more beautiful than you could
Speaker 3: have imagined. Though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I haven't done anything that didn't scare
Speaker 2: me to death that wasn't like the best thing I
Speaker 2: ever did, including getting pregnant. I was terrified when I
Speaker 2: got pregnant. I was like, oh my god, what were
Speaker 2: you scared of? I had a lot of career fear.
Speaker 2: I get that a ton. Yeah, And I immediately started
Speaker 2: looking around for like other women that had done it,
Speaker 2: and nobody, hardly anyone having a.
Speaker 3: Baby as a female singers is like, yeah, kiss of death.
Speaker 2: It made it a piss of death, and I you
Speaker 2: just have to make it look the way that you
Speaker 2: want it to look, because there aren't a lot of examples.
Speaker 2: But I had a ton of career fear and then
Speaker 2: that started to subside once I started making a new record.
Speaker 2: But like without her being born, like I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm put onto this path of like really singing
Speaker 2: about my life like this, and it's the best thing
Speaker 2: I ever did. So yeah, I think that the having
Speaker 2: a family was probably something I was like really really
Speaker 2: scared about, and that was a chapter that was I
Speaker 2: also really wanted, you know, I didn't know what I
Speaker 2: was going to look like. So yeah, and so now
Speaker 2: I'm in this chapter and it's so like fruitful and
Speaker 2: juicy and like full of creativity, and it's tough, it's hard,
Speaker 2: but it's so good and it's so good. Everything that
Speaker 2: I do in a day that's like so hard at
Speaker 2: the end, it's just so worth it. Like I say,
Speaker 2: it's like the like the highest ecstasy and the lowest
Speaker 2: depression every single day. No no I as well.
Speaker 3: Naomi, thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 1: This was awesome.
Speaker 3: Everyone her new music follow you on Instagram Naomi Johnson
Speaker 3: and new album coming.
Speaker 2: And Autumn in the right autumn.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, bye, thank you bye.