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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by bet three

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Speaker 1: we begin the first of our many NFL offseason episodes.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. Listen.

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Speaker 1: As much as we love all the sports, we've made

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Speaker 1: a decision that The Favorites is primarily going to be

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Speaker 1: an NFL podcast because the truth is, the NFL does

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Speaker 1: not stop the opportunities to bet on. The NFL do

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Speaker 1: not stop free agency in less than a month, a

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Speaker 1: generational draft that could have Mahomes like repercussions for some

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Speaker 1: of the most popular franchises in all of sports, including

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Speaker 1: the Bears and the Patriots. So we will dip into

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Speaker 1: off over the next few months. We will dip into

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Speaker 1: March Madness, the Masters in April. Get ready for continued

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Speaker 1: NFL coverage and how to take advantage of what we

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Speaker 1: are seeing, including today. Before we get to any of that,

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Speaker 1: let's bring in my co host, may it Bff, my

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Speaker 1: companion Mike and Padre professional better Simon on Heato.

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Speaker 2: So I'm in, Hello, Chat. I am so jealous that

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Speaker 2: you were busy this weekend. I was stuck at home

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Speaker 2: with my thoughts and questioning life. I mean, how does

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Speaker 2: anyone live life without football? It's crazy, Like when you

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Speaker 2: have a free Sunday, I just can't believe we have

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Speaker 2: like twenty three, twenty four weeks of just our sundays

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Speaker 2: are filled other people, normal people, They go about their

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Speaker 2: daily lives chat. It blows my mind. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was jealous you're out and about traveling. I was like

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself, I need to get a kid. I

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Speaker 2: need to get something to keep me busy in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: But I think I'm gona end up getting a cat instead.

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Speaker 1: Well, a cat you can't really take to the games.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, but it's true. I was out

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Speaker 1: and about this week and I went to Indy for

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Speaker 1: All Star weekend, which is always I know, like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. You saw Charles Barkley and people complaining

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Speaker 1: about the cold of Indianapolis, and it was it was

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Speaker 1: brutally cold, Like I was walking. My hotel was seven

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Speaker 1: minutes from Lucas Oil where the skills were the Skills

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Speaker 1: and the three point Contest and Doug Contests and Stephan

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Speaker 1: Sabrina was on Saturday night. It was nightmares walking back.

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Speaker 1: It was three degrees with the wind chill walking back,

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Speaker 1: so that was no fun. And then on Sunday I

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Speaker 1: went to the IU game. I took my us mentioned kids.

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Speaker 1: I took my sixteen, my seventeen year old son who's

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Speaker 1: looking at colleges. We went down to IU, hung out

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Speaker 1: at Nick's a lunch. Nix is like the bar in

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Speaker 1: race back to Indie, went to All Star Race, back

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Speaker 1: to Womington. The next morning, went to a tour of IU.

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Speaker 1: Great campus. Obviously I'm an alumni, so I'm partial, but

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Speaker 1: it's a just an idyllic place to go to college.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all that is happening. We're in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the tour. We're looking at the Media School, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing the work they're doing there. Everybody who's in

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Speaker 1: media and wants to study media should go to Indiana

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Speaker 1: University for that media school. It's great. But my kid

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Speaker 1: shows me post that Justin Fields has stopped following Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears on Instagram. He started following, or if he was following,

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Speaker 1: I'm not just quite sure. But instead it highlighted this

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Speaker 1: he is following Jean Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Drake London. We

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Speaker 1: will discuss how sort of the social media drama the

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Speaker 1: follows and unfollows is influencing the odds for where Fields

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Speaker 1: will land. But there's no better storyline than the star

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Speaker 1: player no longer following the team that he is playing for,

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Speaker 1: because don't forget Simon. Didn't Lamar Jackson do that when

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Speaker 1: he was in the middle of his negotiations with the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think it's a generational thing. Though.

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Speaker 2: It is a bigger deal than I wish we could

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Speaker 2: joke about that. It wasn't, but it is a big

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Speaker 2: deal because you're basically saying I'm done with this, and

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Speaker 2: I think Lamar did it just what you said. He

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Speaker 2: was like pretty much trying to say the Ravens like,

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Speaker 2: I can move on, deleet you guys for my life,

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Speaker 2: just as you are trying to get rid of me

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Speaker 2: and with Fields. It's awesome that he wants to go

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this is the time of year. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: just dumb rumors, right, We joke all the time. This

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Speaker 2: football is gone, right, so they're gonna need to conjure

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Speaker 2: Shanahan with Kirk Cousins. And it's like Kirk Cousins lost

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Speaker 2: talked about it like I bet Atlanta's Super Bowl future

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Speaker 2: hoping for that kind of future in a weak division.

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Speaker 2: So if you're Atlanta fan, i'd be pretty psyched up,

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Speaker 2: like the dream would be.

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Speaker 1: Getting hold on, hold on, don't go too deep yet.

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Speaker 1: That's just we're just giving a tease. We're not going

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Speaker 1: a teas. We're going to talk more about the Bears.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk about the Eagles. We're going to

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Speaker 1: start there. The Bearers have basically eliminated every player who

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Speaker 1: This week we have the news about Justin Fields the

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Speaker 1: following the unfollowing that one move move the line from

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields to take his first snap in the twenty

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Speaker 1: Falcons from plus two seventy five to plus one fifty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's going to a better number. Yeah. I would

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Speaker 2: be shocked though if the Steelers did make that move,

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Speaker 2: another year. We don't want to disrespect Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, it's just a weird time to look

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Speaker 2: back on those days. That the reason they didn't take

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Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting you look back on these things, the

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was brilliant at this except for except for

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the ability to move on unsentimentally, unemotionally from

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Speaker 1: and then there are people who can't make those decisions

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Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. The Falcons were one of

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Speaker 1: those with Justin Fields. I wonder how Justin Fields would

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Speaker 2: Definitely would have a playoff game under his belt, right.

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Speaker 2: And again it's not we're not here to shoot on

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Speaker 2: the Bears, but I feel like the biggest talk, especially

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Speaker 2: scouting and the foresight to see taking Mahomes. I think

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Speaker 2: we can all agree Chad that Mahomes still wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: all respect Matt Naggi. He was a bad head coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that would have been fixed with Arthur.

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Speaker 2: with DJ Moore, Dj Moore had a career high in receptions,

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Speaker 2: yards and touchdowns. So like, clearly that's a thing where

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Speaker 2: justin fields, you get in the talent, He'll get the

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Speaker 2: ball to the talent. Like that's that sounds like it's

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, go look at Desmond Redder's tape from

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Speaker 2: last year in Atlanta. He could not get a star

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Speaker 2: I mean I love Kirk, but justin field ceiling is

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Speaker 2: so much higher. It's how do you not want this kid?

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Speaker 2: It's like that that would be insane too playing indoors

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Speaker 2: with him, Like it's all right there. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: if you want to go bet that, like Chad said,

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Speaker 2: you can. I feel like the value shipped too much

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Speaker 1: Although plus one fifty you're still getting plus money on

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Speaker 2: That's the when we sit to move, that's the scary part,

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Speaker 2: you're I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, but that's isn't that the world we live in? Right?

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Speaker 2: True?

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Speaker 1: There's an unfollow if you're still if it was plus

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Speaker 1: one hundred, you know, as as we were getting closer,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, don't don't play it, but a plus one fifty, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting the best of the number, but you

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Speaker 1: still might get really good value. To me if you're

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Speaker 1: even money, because it does feel like it's setting up

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Speaker 2: So I haven't had all the quarterbacks I hit the

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Speaker 2: is obviously for you, Chad, where it's like you want

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to me two things. One, Patrick Mahomes coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff we've heard, like he's

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Speaker 2: But you talk to anyone that's a man on that team,

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Speaker 2: and they made a huge mistake with that. Where I

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Speaker 2: we haven't had the number one pick I think since

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Speaker 2: you know, the team for taking you know, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: Like the number one pick, it tends to work out

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Speaker 2: like I keep saying, Bears fans, I'm just jealous because

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Speaker 2: Matn not surely yet, which is already you already had

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Speaker 2: their ugly warts and what their issues are where yeah

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Speaker 2: right now, Like you just hear anyone talking about Williams,

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Speaker 2: massive growing pains. I've already seen, You've just talked about it,

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Speaker 2: Like all these little bad habits he picked up last

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Speaker 2: guys have a bad offensive line, Like, there are ways

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Speaker 1: I feel like you just mentioned well A, It's interesting

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Speaker 1: take Caleb Williams remove from the season. There's no lack

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that could quickly become one of the harder

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Speaker 2: who cares, You're right back in the Zacca position you've

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Eagles. They fired Brian Johnson, They've made

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Speaker 1: And is he a fraud?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What's the story here?

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Speaker 2: I mean it could be personality. He does a lot

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Speaker 2: when people are talking on They're just they think he's

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Speaker 2: the season, they go, well, if you're not gonna be

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Speaker 2: the defense, what exactly you're gonna do. I'm gonna manage

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Speaker 2: the guys. Dude, you just lost the locker room like this.

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Speaker 2: you're a player's coach. No, no, of course they like

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Speaker 3: Because it sucks to lose. It fucking sucks. Losing awful.

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Speaker 3: That's why I want to win, Because you don't sleep.

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Speaker 3: You want to win for the players, that buster tail,

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Speaker 2: As a franchise. It feels like it's just reading the ownership.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they can get this last dish effort out of

431
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Speaker 2: these guys. But I would say is Eagles fans I'm

432
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: expecting a little bit of transition right our d line

433
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: who got us to that Super Bowl, two different super

434
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: bowl S, Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, they're either leaving or

435
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: they're really old now they're going to take pay decreases.

436
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: These kids we've taken from Georgia just apparently got overweight.

437
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: Davis was huge, Carter disappeared towards ends of the season.

438
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: Like there's just as an Eagles fan, there's a lot

439
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: of unknown. But what gives me solace is the fact

440
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: that Dallas they have a lot of unknown as well

441
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: this offseason. So you know, the Eagles, as much as

442
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: I want to say that they might be in rebuilding mode,

443
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: there's so much talent on the offensive side that if

444
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: Howie just gets the right linebacker or the right d lineman,

445
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: it could fix a lot of problems as team has

446
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: right now. But yeah, if if I have faith in

447
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, I just don't really have faith in

448
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: Sirianni right now, just how bad everything ended last year.

449
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: It's just hard again. A bizarre offseason chat, the fact

450
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: that Rabel, Belichick, Carroll, these legends of the sport are

451
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: out there hung dry. It just feels like you know,

452
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: the owners don't want that power dynamic. Like I feel

453
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: like the owner likes that this guy is I don't

454
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: want to stay. He's a bitch, but like you know,

455
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 2: he's not gonna tell Jeffrey what Jeffrey needs to hear sometimes, right, Like,

456
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: I feel that's the problem here. So you know, the

457
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: sky's at falling yet as an Eagles fan, but I

458
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: know that this window, it might only have a year left,

459
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: honestly because a lot of guys like that Jail Hurts.

460
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: Money's about to kick in and a lot of guys

461
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: are gonna have to go. So definitely, as a fan,

462
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm not that confident head of the season. But the

463
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: fact that I have Jalen Hurts, why I think is

464
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: a tom Tech quarterback, that gives me some confidence on

465
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: this team.

466
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: Right now, Well, you're right, they structure these deals so

467
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: you've got a twelve to twenty four month window, yeah,

468
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: to execute on these deals. And the Bengals are all

469
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden confront situation, right The Chiefs went all

470
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: in on Mahomes, and I think for a lot of

471
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: the year it challenged them because they just didn't have

472
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: the receiving talent and only by virtue of mahomes and

473
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: shrinking the playbook, did they get to where they were going? Yeah,

474
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: we see this all the time. So if like Jordan

475
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: Davis and Jalen Carter can't become the equivalent of Flexer Cox,

476
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you've wasted all these months

477
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: and all these opportunities to win the Super Bowl. And

478
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: they had it last year like that Niners team was

479
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: beatable against really good teams, and they just wasted the opportunity.

480
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: They just lost it completely. They made the wrong decisions

481
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: with the coordinators, and like that is on Sarianni right,

482
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: that you could actually say, listen, your job as a

483
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: leader is about the judgment you have and the faith

484
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: and the people you put your faith in. And you

485
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: made the wrong decision and that seemed greater because of it.

486
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: So you could see them saying, yeah, we're done with

487
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: you already. Now that I think about it, it's a

488
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: little surprising they didn't made a mistake.

489
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 2: And that's why I mean, Chad are putting money on

490
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: the New York Jet. It's disgusting to say, but there

491
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: is a window where this team could win this division.

492
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: We talk every year at this point. Last year we're

493
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: telling you to take the Cowboys a plus two hundred.

494
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: The same team doesn't repeat, has not repeated what now

495
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: chat twenty one years? Twenty years, there's not been a

496
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: repeat champion in the NFC. So the Eagles have some

497
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, cracks in the arm or staying with Dallas like,

498
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: it's going to be a really interesting year for that division.

499
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Giants become really fascinating all of a sudden

500
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: because you could see when they played Tyrod Taylor they

501
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: were a competent team. And obviously Evan is saying today

502
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: is a massive day for the future of Saquon and

503
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: the Giants. I don't know how much that matters to me. Yeah, yeah,

504
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know how much that matters to me

505
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: thinking about their ability to win the division because it

506
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: still comes down to who's playing quarterback more than who's

507
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: playing running back. And we saw the ability of Tyrod

508
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Taylor to manage that team and how they can be

509
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: good if they had, like someone remotely cap bole and

510
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: competent with Brian Dayball, with that scheme, a new defensive coordinator.

511
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: It's an interesting idea for sure. Totally love it. One

512
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: of the other teams and I don't get this one.

513
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, getting a little bit of bus

514
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans like people saying, are the Tennessee Titans

515
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: the next Houston Texans? And dude, I don't see it.

516
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: A Brian Callahan may have been a brilliant offensive coordinator

517
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, but he also had Joe Burrow. He

518
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: also had Jamar Chase, he had Higgins. Like they've got

519
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: an incredible set of skill players. He wasn't calling the

520
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: plays right because the Bengals head coach was calling the

521
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: place he will be calling the plays in Tennessee. I

522
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: think the smartest thing Brian Calla is done. Lord his father,

523
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan away from the Browns where he was making

524
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: three million a year as an offensive line coach. He's

525
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: going to go down as one of the best offensive

526
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: line coaches in NFL history, has been respected for forty

527
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: plus years as a coach focusing on the offensive line.

528
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: That to me is as big a deal with anything else.

529
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think you're a hot team with Will

530
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Levis as your quarterback.

531
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: No. And I saw amazing stat a week or two

532
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: ago about Will Levis where I believe you had four

533
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: touchdowns in his first twenty passes. You remember that game

534
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: he had four. Yeah, he didn't have four more in

535
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 2: the next two hundred and nineteen. So it is a

536
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: flash in the pan where we saw the sparks. But

537
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: I said in the moment, I said, was that a

538
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: game for him or was that a game where Hopkins

539
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: showed why he's a Hall of Famer Because it was

540
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: a lot of deep balls to Hopkins who he just

541
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: went up and got it and made incredible plays. So

542
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't see it. They haven't drafted well. But the

543
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: people betting this, it's really hard to knock them because

544
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: me and you hit the Jags two years ago because

545
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: they were undervalued. Last year, the guy we had on,

546
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson talked about Houston being undervalued. We can we

547
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: can talk to brand Neinsen again. There's no way he

548
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: saw CJ. Stroud doing what he did right. None of

549
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: us saw that coming. His reasoning was sound where he

550
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: made that bet because they brought in a defensive mind

551
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: and they had a pretty good defensive team, so he

552
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: didn't need or he didn't think CJ was going to

553
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: be a Pro Bowl. He thought, if this guy is

554
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: just you know, an average rookie quarterback. This team could

555
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: somehow steal this division if the other teams fall apart

556
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: and what happens back to back years. Tennessee fell apart

557
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: two years ago. Last year, Jaguars, they fell apart towards

558
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Do you feel the same

559
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: about Houston? I don't, like I have confidence in that

560
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: and CJ that even if things are going wrong for

561
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: them next year, I don't see them falling apart, Like

562
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: they seem like a very mentally tough team and I

563
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: like that combo. So yeah, if I was gonna make

564
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: a sneaky pick, I could maybe be convinced that the

565
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Jaguars are a little undervalue in this division right now

566
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: because of all the hype and love for Houston. But CJ,

567
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: to me, is taking that step chat in just one

568
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: year where it's like I think he's better than Trevor Lawrence,

569
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: like he showed me more in big moments where he

570
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: needed to be better. Where I think there's other divisions

571
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: we can attack for these kind of bets, but I

572
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: don't see any more in the South. I just feels

573
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: like this is going to be CJ's division against what

574
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: we think will be the Jaguars for the next couple

575
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: of years. It's like him and Trevor Lawrence. I don't

576
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: see them going anywhere. But yeah, Will Loves if you

577
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: want to bet on him taking the next step, go

578
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 2: for it. I just don't think the value is there

579
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: right now in the number.

580
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree with you one hundred percent. That was

581
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle for the Texans because they drafted

582
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Stroud and Will Anderson. And I agree with you about CJ. Stroud.

583
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: The guy's it. He's him right And by the way,

584
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: don't forget.

585
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: So once in every like six seven year draft pick.

586
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Tank Dell, who was his favorite receiver, was out the

587
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: latter half of the season and in the playoffs, and

588
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: still CJ. Stroud was dominating with guys who were not

589
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: like who were not his you know, with Nico Collins

590
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: and Robert Woods, like the people who were not his

591
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: number one options for most of the year. So this

592
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: is a team team on the up. I think I

593
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's a flash in

594
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: the pan at all. You just said something interesting. If

595
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: not the AFC South, we talked about the NFC East.

596
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Where is the division where there might be value and

597
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: if I may offer a suggestion.

598
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah far away. I love hearing this.

599
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm falling for it obviously, like we

600
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: do every year Los Angeles Chargers.

601
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I know we can't though, can we? No? I don't

602
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: think our fans will let us. I can tell you this.

603
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: I have not put a dollar on them, even though,

604
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: like Chad just said, I want to. I'm going through

605
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: next year. I think it's a year with Harball. I

606
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: need I need Horble to get his guys, right, we

607
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: know what Harball wants to do. Wants to get some

608
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: big ass offensive lineman. He wants get a running back

609
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: he can trust, and that's the team he's gonna build, right.

610
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: He wants a team that can handle the ball. That's

611
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: always been his style, even when he was with the

612
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, Like you know, people forget he re

613
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: re engaged frank Or and had a whole second half

614
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: of his career with frank Or, which was just incredible

615
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: with that forty nine Ers team. So I love where

616
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: you're at, Like this is what I dream for. Yeah,

617
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: Tito put in our Chad Derek Henry with Horrball, like

618
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: that'd be really fun. But I just I can't do it, man,

619
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: I just can't do it where it's just that division.

620
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: Even if they start out hot with Harball, I just

621
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: still think Mahomes will eventually catch him down the road.

622
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: So I love your heads at though, like the new coach,

623
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: that's something mean you both like to attack. I just

624
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: I can't pull the trick on that one.

625
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: Simon. Can you name the fastest growing ticketing app in

626
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: the United States?

627
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Game Time?

628
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440
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629
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,520
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630
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,320
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631
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,200
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632
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Speaker 1: I'm opening Game Time right now from my house here

633
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,320
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634
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,640
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635
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,040
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636
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200
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637
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,280
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638
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880
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639
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640
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,800
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641
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642
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643
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644
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Speaker 1: say the Falcons get justin fields. Are we going to

645
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden have to be once again in

646
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons podcast? Is this the division where you might

647
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: see the opportunity that you were just talking about?

648
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: I could see it. I mean again, the most interesting

649
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: about them right now is you can go to a

650
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: couple of different sites. The Bears are fourteen to one

651
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: right now to win the NFC. So are the Atlanta Falcons.

652
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't make sense Wheretlanta's in such a weak division.

653
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: It just feels like they should be. Like you just said,

654
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: Green Bay Detroit are pretty good, Like it's just weird

655
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: that they have the same odds right now Chicago. So

656
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about it where at this point

657
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: my long shots really that I'm invested in we already

658
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: talked about with the Giants, Like that's a team I'm

659
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: heavily invested in. But everything we like about Atlanta, it's

660
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: just all about their division. Like again, Baker, I don't

661
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't even resigned with Tampa yet. So Tampa right

662
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: now Tingley doesn't have a quarterback. They want to get

663
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: him in. But they just missed out on resigning Mike Evans,

664
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: which that's a huge deal. Like if they can resign

665
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Baker now bring him back, Mike Evans is gone. I

666
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: believe Mike Emmons was number one red zone target right

667
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: He got like thirteen touchdowns last year. So those are

668
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: big deals to someone like me and Chatt who want

669
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: to bet this Atlanta team. But this is this is

670
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: a big swing, right, Me and you were going to

671
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: play some money on a team that they don't have

672
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: a quarterback yet. For all we know, they could punt

673
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: on it and go to the draft and draft a guy.

674
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: Me and Chat just made a dead bet. So that

675
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: is the risk if you're listening to us and you

676
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: want to take a little bit Atlanta here. I am

677
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: a supportive of it just because I like the guys

678
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: that brought in. I like all the pieces there. We

679
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: talked last year. The only thing missing was the quarterback position.

680
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: So to me, even fields coming in and learning a

681
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: new offense, I still think they can make it work

682
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: to win that division. But the dream scenario, of course,

683
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: is Kirk Cousins. You're bringing Kirk Cousins, that's going to

684
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: be a team that's going to make the division. Like

685
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: I would easily have him rated high, but higher above

686
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, especially in this division. So yeah, it's a

687
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: risky bet. But like we're talking about right now, I

688
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: just think the odds are too low on this Atlanta team.

689
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: If Justin Fields goes to the Falcons, it's gonna be

690
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: very hard not to think about the opportunities and the

691
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: athleticism and what could be and put myself right back

692
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: in week sixteen before we're playing the last game of

693
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: the year against the Packers and believing Justin Fields is

694
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: the next great thing.

695
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Nah, you won't carry I'm telling you. Even just wait

696
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: until Williams on your team. You see him in your

697
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Bears gear practicing this spring, You're gonna be like everything

698
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: he does is so smooth. Again, Fields was a cred

699
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: laugh and everything he did was smooth as well, But

700
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: it's just different. Williams is just a different level than Fields's.

701
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: And again, it's all about coaching. But I get where

702
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: you're coming from. I'll never forget the Eagles guy Rydan

703
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: McNabb and he went to Washington. We lost to Washington

704
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: that first game, and we played them the next season,

705
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: and every Eagles fans like, what the hell are we doing?

706
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: Filled with regret. I think Donovan was out of the

707
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: league in a year. So yeah, that's how it is

708
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: a football fan, where we're just so in the moment.

709
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: But I get it. It's gonna be weird seeing him

710
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: and that Atlanta team, but yeah, it's it's what needs

711
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: to happen.

712
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was a featured celebrity guest at the All

713
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: Star Game on Sunday night, and while he's talking about

714
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: his greatest gift is throwing deep, not shooting threes, he's

715
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: likely to be cut. Rumors are he's accepting offers on

716
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: his Denver mansion. This team we love Sean Payton. Love

717
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Made a lot of money on Sean Payton

718
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: last year when he was sort of turning this team around.

719
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: They were in the middle of a very positive turnover streak.

720
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: What's going to happen to this team now? Who's their quarterback?

721
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: How are they going to draft anybody? They're in salary cap? Hell?

722
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: This team, we love this team a year ago. We

723
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: couldn't be more off this team right now.

724
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to burn it all down on the ground,

725
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: right That's that's gonna be the hard part here, where

726
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: you know, they gave Wilson arguably one of the worst

727
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 2: contracts in NFL history before you even played a snap

728
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: for the team. And you know, I think they had

729
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: a conversation with him about trying to restartch Craze deal

730
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: last year. He wouldn't do it. No, they let him

731
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: play a couple more games, and they did eventually sit them.

732
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: And that's when we both agreed, like, Okay, if they're

733
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: sitting him at this point, that means they're moving off

734
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: from this offseas that's why they don't want to get hurt.

735
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: So that means his contract had been locked in. I'd

736
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: have to look at the numbers, brother, but I think

737
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: it's like it might be forty or fifty million in

738
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: dead cap. It might even be higher. I could be wrong,

739
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: but I think it's forty to fifty million of dead

740
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: dead cap number if they do cut him or get

741
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: rid of him, and again could be higher. So just

742
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: doing simple math, that just means like this next year

743
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: or two, they oh, Wow, Matt Mitchell says, you think

744
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: it's eighty five million? Like that's came around my head

745
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: around it.

746
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: That's insane. I think you could get some We got

747
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: to get some fact checking on that.

748
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: I can't get.

749
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe it is eighty five million.

750
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: It could be the high because I just remember I

751
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: had them marked off this year of a team that

752
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: I won't bet a single future on, Like there's just there,

753
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: there is nothing there for me to bet on, just

754
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: because Sean's gonna get this team and put it in

755
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: his view, his vision. And you know if that means

756
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: this year he'll trade up to which would be crazy

757
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: if he trades up to the number three pick and

758
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: takes Daniels or he trades up and takes McCarthy. You

759
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: know there's a bunch of guys he could trade up

760
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: to take these quarterback position. I don't know why he would, though,

761
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: Like you could just roll it out, maybe tank this

762
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: year and you know you cant get Deon Sanders kid

763
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: next year if he takes another step and becomes a

764
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: number one pick, Like it would just be interesting if

765
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: he did move up in the draft where they need

766
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: to rebuild it all out right, like me and you

767
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: talked about that that film breakdown you did. I forget

768
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: who it was you were breaking down, but it was

769
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: a Miami versus Denver game where Denver just could not

770
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: could not tackle.

771
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it was Denver defense. Yes, I got listen,

772
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: I got Matt Mitchell's note. I'll say it. I didn't

773
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: want to interrupt you. As soon as you're done, I

774
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: see you looking to the side, I'll get to Matt

775
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: Mitchell's note.

776
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: Like you just you said it perfectly. With the second

777
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: half of the season, that was a totally different defense, right,

778
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: they were playing hard, they were making the tackles. Everything

779
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: did change. So we know that talent is there, and

780
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: I think Sean Payton sees that. He just he doesn't

781
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: believe Russell Wilson was swre enough to learn his offense

782
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: or good enough to be worthy of what they're paying him.

783
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: So that's a team that in that division. Like you

784
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 2: just said, now the Harball's in that division. It's gonna

785
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: be a one to two year rebuild for Denver.

786
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell said, Russell Wilson was an eighty five million

787
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: cap hit to me because he wasn't clear in chat.

788
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was saying it was a one season

789
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: eighty five million cap hit. It's two seasons thirty nine

790
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: and forty five or something like that, So that would

791
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: still be the biggest cap hit and the most expensive

792
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: signing ever. But it's eighty five million over two seasons.

793
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: If he's a post June one release, that is absurd.

794
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: Right, If you draft right, it doesn't cripple your team

795
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: like the Eagles cut Carson Wentz with all that guaranteed

796
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: money and the next the following season when you were

797
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. So you can make it work

798
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: if you draft right. I just don't know. Again, it's

799
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: too hard to project out. But just in that division,

800
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: I just can't see it happening where it's just they're

801
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: just so far behind right now, the Chargers and the Chiefs.

802
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: It's just hard to envision them turn it around so quick.

803
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: And the Raiders, like, the Raiders are ahead of them

804
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: definitely right now. So yeah, dark days right now in Denver.

805
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: Well, look, you mentioned the Raiders. I want to do

806
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: two quick hitters before we get out of here. One.

807
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy g suspended two games, will probably get cut, lose

808
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: his salary of eleven point two five million the Raiders

809
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: seemed like they were committed to Aiden O'Connell anyways, Like

810
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: when I saw the story this week about him being

811
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: suspended for ingesting some kind of performance enhancing substance, I

812
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: forgot he was on the team and didn't think he

813
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: was going to be a factor next year anyways. So

814
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't really matter they were going with

815
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: Aiden O'Connell. Am I misreading?

816
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: No? But I do think it's interesting that, you know,

817
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: if Sam Darnold's a free agent, and whoever walks from

818
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, why not bring Jimmy back? Like

819
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: rock Perty is not looking over his shoulder scared of

820
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: Jimmy g Like he took that man's job when he

821
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: was a third string. There'd be no fear there. So

822
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I would say that's a perfect landing spot for Jimmy. Right,

823
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy's not that good. His mobility is way down now

824
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: as he's aged. He's just different now, and fra him

825
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: to go back there, take the vet minimum like back

826
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: up Purdy. I think that's a perfect landing spot for Jimmy.

827
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, Raiders, just a long line of terrible signings

828
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: by that team, And you know, Josh McDaniels. Everything he

829
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: touches turns of shit. That man is so bad at

830
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: being a head coach and making quarterback decisions. Between Jimmy

831
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: G and Tbau, there might be no one works out

832
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: there than McDaniels.

833
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Think about this, will always be less than

834
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: six inches away from having beaten the Chiefs. Yeah, if

835
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: he can just hit that deep ball down the middle,

836
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: he's there and they win that game. It's just a

837
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: little bit off target. And that's the history of his

838
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: career in one play. Oh, Jimmy G. Jimmy G. Just

839
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: a little bit.

840
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Off you know what I mean?

841
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: Like if you had a tagline for Jimmy G. B

842
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Jimmy G looks the part so close, not quite there.

843
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: My memory of him will always be Tom Brady after

844
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: the pick in the end zone, jumping in a circle,

845
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: refusing to hug Jimmy G. After that Super Bowl Like

846
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: it's just one of my favorite images of Tom. Tom

847
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 2: just hated him so much. Even in Tom's happiest moment

848
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: of his life, whereat teams just picked off Russell Wilson

849
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: in the end zone of the Super Bowl, He instead

850
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: of hugging him, just keeps spinning in a circle cheering.

851
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: It's just it's my favorite Tom Brady and Jimmy g Memory.

852
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: He is handsome though, he's got that going for him.

853
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

854
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Finally, before we get out of here, the last bit

855
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: of news since we left recorded, Kyah Shanahan fired defensive

856
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: coordinator Steve Wilkes. Least surprising move of the offseason so far.

857
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: Never seemed to work. Seemed like they were on the

858
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: separate pages the entire season.

859
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought he was good during the regular season

860
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: and then his defense completely fell apart heading into the

861
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: playoffs and whatever that Ravens Blue script, that that script

862
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: they put out there how to attack their secondary Evan

863
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Just you see Evans in the chat fields down to

864
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: minus one thirty now for Atlanta, Oh my god, that

865
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: was right. We should have took the plus one fifth.

866
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Speaker 1: By the way, I think it's moving because we're talking

867
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: about it, that's what's happening.

868
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, total total, it was a move that needed

869
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: to be made, Like the talent they had on that defense,

870
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: because people keep trying to point to the numbers of

871
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: what he did during the regular season, the number one

872
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: scoring defense, how incredible they were. You know, he he

873
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: was good. But I think him and Kyle butterheads and

874
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. And when you go back and

875
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: you watch the Super Bowl, his adjustments he made in

876
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: the second half were the downfall of the team. Like

877
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: he started, he tried to switch up looks and do

878
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: different things the second half. And again, who knows if

879
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: Kyle's when was spring in his ear telling him to

880
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: start blitzing more and do all that. But it failed,

881
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: It did not work. So it's my interest here is

882
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: who who do they bring in? Right? Like, are they

883
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: really gonna bring in Rabel or Belichick? Are those guys

884
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: really gonna take that job for a one year deal?

885
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a big ask of those guys

886
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: to you know, swallow that pill and kind of become

887
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: their DC. But yet we knew there's gonna be escape

888
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: go right, Chad, We said it, like Colleen leaving. They're

889
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: not getting rid of John Lynch. Someone some head was

890
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: gonna roll and you know, of all the guys to

891
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: get fired here, he was only there for one year.

892
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: It just it seemed came a cole bumped ted so

893
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: like if they hadn't, he would have stuck up for him.

894
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: He would have held him there, So yeah, not that shocking,

895
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: But the most more shocking part will be who's filling

896
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: that position, because what are we a week later now

897
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: and they haven't filled it. So there's a lot of

898
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: stuff going on behind it because usually they don't fire

899
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: someone unless they have someone in mind who's going to

900
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: fill that position. But no one's accepted that position yet.

901
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: Well, number one, you knew that he was going to

902
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: get fired if they lost that game. When Shanahan called

903
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: the time out on that fourth down call where he

904
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: didn't like the look right and he called like it

905
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: was the Niners had to defend a fourth down for

906
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Shanahan called time out. He's not calling the plays.

907
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Like when you're Steve Wilks and that timeout happens, you

908
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: got to be thinking, what the actual freak? Yeah, you know,

909
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: like the coach saw the look, called time out, overruled me.

910
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: What's he going to want? And then are you going

911
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: to fight him? In that moment? You're going to go

912
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: to the look that he wants. So if I were

913
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: Vrabel or Belichick one hundred, take that job for a year.

914
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: You know, if it goes well, you're gonna make more money.

915
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: It's not going to go badly because that defense is

916
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: so good, and you get a year to sort of

917
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: just have fun and not have the responsibility you get

918
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: to coach. You get to be someone who Shanahan doesn't

919
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: feel threatened is going to take your job, so he's

920
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: going to lean on you as sort of a conciliary.

921
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: It feels like the perfect job to take really for

922
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: someone like Vrabel, Like take one year and just have

923
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: fun coaching as a defensive coordinator, and then take the

924
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: head coaching job. You'll be the leading candidate for any

925
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: head coaching job the next year.

926
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. And just like you just said though, it's the

927
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: perfect job to step into because it's not like you

928
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: have a bunch of young guys on that defense, right,

929
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: that's a veteran, smart, savvy defense. I mean their number

930
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: one safety wasn't even playing half the season, like they

931
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: lost so many guys. So yeah, I I am total

932
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: agreens with you where it's like I would take that position.

933
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: But clearly there's a delay because I thought right away

934
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: someone we've been hired, and now we're almost a week

935
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: later and no one's been hired.

936
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: All right, Before we get out of here, a lot

937
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: of people in the chat are asking us to talk

938
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: about the Kenny Pickett Mason Rudolph situation in Pittsburgh because

939
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: if it does, if Justin Fields is going to go

940
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: to the Falcons, which is looking more and more likely

941
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: as we talk, because we're moving markets because that's what

942
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: we do. And they're going to stick with Kenny Pickett

943
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph and they've got Arthur Smith as a

944
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. Is this another nine and eight season?

945
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: Is this Mike Tomlin with his first losing season? Is

946
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph for real? From what he did at the

947
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: end of the year. Can Arthur Smith turn this into

948
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: a team with Najee Harris that really becomes a much

949
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: better rushing team. What do we think of this Pittsburgh situation?

950
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: All that can go is of like, I have a

951
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: couple of teams, I have a decent out of contacts,

952
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: only have one really good contact with Pittsburgh. They're very

953
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: good at keeping things in the house and not having

954
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: stuff a leak. They are happy to leak that they

955
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: want a quarterback, they want something new in there. Tomlin

956
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: has been very vocal about it to the front office,

957
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: to a lot of the guys on his coaching staff.

958
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: So that's a team that I do think they're gonna

959
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: attack that position. They're gonna try to find a way

960
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: to get a guy in there that can give them

961
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: a chance, because I think they're just like the rest

962
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: of us. Like we've all seen that stat that since

963
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger's retired, they've only thrown for like twenty four

964
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: touchdowns total, and he retired like four years ago, and

965
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: somehow Tomlin keeps getting them above five hundred with that stat,

966
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: Like they don't. They have not had a person back

967
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: there throwing the ball for them since Ben's left, even

968
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: Ben's last couple of years. Remember how we still laugh

969
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: at it where it's like, yeah, they're propping this guy up.

970
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: He is terrible. They can't find anything better than that,

971
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Like that's the craziest part. So I think they're gonna

972
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: be really aggressive. That's why, like again the Bears, they

973
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: have to make the move, like this is such a

974
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: good year to be holding that card of the upside

975
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: of fields. So that's the thing that I'm hearing is

976
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: that Atlanta. To me, I think they're gonna have to

977
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: pay more to get fields, But Pittsburgh could be there

978
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Like Dad's a team

979
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: that could easily step in and get Fields, who is

980
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: big bodied, big hand, perfect for playing outdoors. I mean

981
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: even when he played for Chicago, think of how much

982
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: he ran the ball, Chad, and how he fixed those

983
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: fumbles as he got older, right, Like earliest career filmed

984
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: a lot. He figured that out as the years went on.

985
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 2: So yes, if I'm a Pittsburgh fan, I'd much rather

986
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: get someone like Fields than I would getting someone like

987
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. Right, Kirk Cousins is perfect for indoors kind

988
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: of offense. Pittsburgh is a team that still has a

989
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: lot of questions across their offensive line. So I would say,

990
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: if you're a Pittsburgh fan, I don't think your team,

991
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: your front office views as you guys have a starting

992
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: quarterback on your roster right now, so they're going to

993
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: be very active this offseason trying to get into quarterback.

994
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: It ain't over for the Steelers, By the way, why

995
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: not Kirk Cousins.

996
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't hate it, but I feel like we've seen

997
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: that you want Kirk indoors right, like his his splits

998
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: were very different. But the Pittsburgh thing, I just look

999
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: back on Terry Bratchaw on Big Bend. They are these big,

1000
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: strong quarterbacks, like I don't really get that from Kirk

1001
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: where I do get that from Fields. That's why I

1002
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: would love Fields in that position. But that outdoors thing

1003
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,840
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1004
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: talked about that's why they were so enamored with Josh Allen.

1005
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: He's big, strong, in has big hands. That's something you

1006
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: need for these cold weather outdoor games late in the season.

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