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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Well, how

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Speaker 1: are we doing there, Bill's fans, Chris Brown, Maddie clab

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Speaker 1: with you here on One Bill's Live for a Monday edition.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your afternoon on the

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Speaker 1: heels of the Bills preseason opener, and we'll have plenty

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Speaker 1: to offer up on that through the course of the

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Speaker 1: show this afternoon. If you're wondering where Steve is today,

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Speaker 1: he is at the thirty eighth annual Jim Kelly Golf

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Speaker 1: meant to benefit the Kelly for Kids Foundation and Hunter's Hope.

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Speaker 1: And I actually read this, so I wanted to mention it.

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Speaker 1: The Kelly for Kids Foundation is granted over seven million

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Speaker 1: dollars to local organizations supporting disadvantage and disabled youth over

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Speaker 1: those thirty plus years, so really cool. So they're doing

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Speaker 1: some good stuff out there at Terry Hills in Batavia.

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Speaker 1: So Maddie nice enough to join us here on a Monday.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills have an off day today too. They

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Speaker 1: got yesterday, well they probably did some film review yesterday,

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Speaker 1: before getting back at it tomorrow. And we actually had

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Speaker 2: We had an off day yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Did you find yourself able to do anything or was

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Speaker 1: it too hot and you're just like, forget it. I'm

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Speaker 4: It was a little too hot. I got stuff done

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back from camp.

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Speaker 4: When we have camp in pre season. I was talking

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Speaker 4: You don't really have a schedule, so it's a little

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Speaker 4: sometimes I just want to sit and relax, so watch

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Speaker 2: Was able to do that yesterday, which was great. What

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Speaker 1: We got out late in the day because we have

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Speaker 1: which wasn't a bad thing because it was, as you said,

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Speaker 1: so like crazy hot. But we just bought a pair

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Speaker 1: up when you get to where you're get a paddle board.

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Speaker 1: So we did that yesterday, made in Voyage happy to

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Speaker 1: say neither of us fell off. It's a workout for

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Speaker 1: We were doing that yesterday for sure. And then we

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Speaker 4: Hopefully it's a day off for you today too. In

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Speaker 1: I think, as we said, Bills have an off day

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Speaker 1: but the Bills. We'll be back on the practice field

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Speaker 1: at eight pm. Maddie and I will be traveling with

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm I'm so excited to go home, get to

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Speaker 4: see my family, hopefully taking a Cubs game because the Cubs.

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Speaker 2: Are at home on Saturday against the Pirates.

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Speaker 4: Nothing better than a summer weekend day at Wrigley Field.

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Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite places in the world. Wow,

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Speaker 4: I love going to Cubs games. So hopefully we can

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Speaker 4: make that happen. Wrigleyville is also the coolest place ever,

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Speaker 2: Ahead of a game or after a game. Some really

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Speaker 4: Texted my cousin who lives in the city. She won't

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Speaker 4: to the places that I know are really good. No,

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Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, span the list, Yeah, I get it. Looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. Our good friend Dan Orlovsky from ESPN,

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Speaker 1: as you know, he's on NFL live over there. He

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Speaker 1: ranked NFL quarterbacks in seven different elements necessary to play

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Speaker 1: the position. Those elements were arm strength, ball placement, mechanics,

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Speaker 1: second reaction ability. Josh Allen ranked first in arm strength,

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Speaker 1: not surprising to see that he was ranked sixth in

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Speaker 1: he'd be ranked the lowest because even as a third

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Speaker 4: still think of Josh Allen as a better passer than

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Speaker 1: is now. I'm looking at these four guys. Stafford is

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Speaker 1: and they say, nobody throws a prettier baller has a

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Speaker 4: It was we have to be better on third down.

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Speaker 4: We need to get off the field. We're not doing that,

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Speaker 4: and it didn't.

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Speaker 1: Change in the second half, So I would say it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say third down was dub par, both from

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Speaker 1: an execution standpoint, but maybe even more importantly, Maddie, from

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Speaker 1: an awareness standpoint. They got burned on a handful of screens,

440
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Speaker 1: which was a big problem area last year, getting killed

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Speaker 1: on screenplays. The lack of awareness from some of their

442
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Speaker 1: younger players was a problem, and like I said, it

443
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Speaker 1: didn't get better as the game warn't like even if

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Speaker 1: you're not playing and you're a young player and you

445
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Speaker 1: see a long down and distance, Oh, there goes a

446
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Speaker 1: screenplay again for twenty yards or whatever it was. It's like, oh, man,

447
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Speaker 1: I gotta be wary of the screen like I gotta

448
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Speaker 1: be if I got a free path to the quarterback,

449
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Speaker 1: I better put my head on a swivel because there's

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Speaker 1: probably a screenplay coming. And the awareness just didn't seem

451
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Speaker 1: to materialize out there. And for that matter, third down

452
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Speaker 1: wasn't good on both sides of the ball. I mean,

453
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Speaker 1: you look at the final numbers. Giants are almost fifty

454
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Speaker 1: percent and the Bills what had one conversion on third down.

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Speaker 1: It's a big reason. You say, well, what's the big deal.

456
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Speaker 1: Obviously your offense is not staying on the field, your

457
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Speaker 1: defense can't get off the field, so now you have

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Speaker 1: a time of possession problem. I mean a halftime time

459
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Speaker 1: of possession was two to one. Yes, And then at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game you look at it and

461
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Speaker 1: the Bills ran twenty one fewer plays on offense than

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Speaker 1: the Giants twenty one. Like that's two scoring drives and

463
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Speaker 1: you say that's a huge difference. And third down, I

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Speaker 1: think was a big reason why you saw the disparity

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Speaker 1: in time of possession and in just the number of

466
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Speaker 1: plays your offense.

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Speaker 4: Got to run with a lot of these younger guys

468
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Speaker 4: getting their first taste of an NFL game preseason action. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but you wonder if some of this is I.

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Speaker 2: Got to get it out of me. I gotta get

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Speaker 2: it out of me. I'm a little bit nervous. I'm anxious.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to look at here, or the

473
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Speaker 4: things that I worked on in practice and we've worked

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Speaker 4: on in meetings are have kind of gone out the

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Speaker 4: window because I have high stress and high anxiety because

476
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Speaker 4: I need to perform all I need to make a

477
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Speaker 4: roster spot, I need to make my position goach happy.

478
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Speaker 4: And while you're focusing on all those things, the technique

479
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Speaker 4: goes out the door, and your your keys that you're

480
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Speaker 4: supposed to be reading, that's not what you're reading.

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Speaker 2: At the line of scrimmage. Before the ball snaps.

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Speaker 1: You're just kind of like, yes, I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: a play. Yeah, you know, And I get that young

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Speaker 1: players are gonna fall victim to that sometimes. So let's

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Speaker 1: see if they can use that as a learning tool

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Speaker 1: as they go forward into this next preseason game coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday night in Chicago. Gotta take a break here,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Maddy glab with you. Eight oh three, five

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Speaker 1: point fifty one, eight eight, five point fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: point fifty give us your biggest takeaways from preseason game

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Speaker 1: number one for the Bills, open lines for you, your

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Speaker 1: phone calls. Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

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Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live on a Monday, Chris Brown, Matty

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Speaker 1: glab with you and asking you for your biggest takeaways

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Speaker 1: from preseason game number one. What you thought of the performance?

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Speaker 1: Maybe overall, some players that might have caught your eye,

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Speaker 1: some players you may have concerns about. Whatever it is

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Speaker 1: you let us know at eight oh three, five point

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Speaker 1: fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifteen the

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Speaker 1: numbers to join us. We have some open lines for

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Speaker 1: you there, but we're gonna lead off today with Kevin

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Speaker 1: and Hamburg. What's up? Kevin?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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Speaker 6: I'll give him the Bills credit. They did much better

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Speaker 6: to either last year that first preseason game.

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Speaker 7: Last year.

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Speaker 6: He couldn't do anything right that running got burn murdered

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Speaker 6: by the Bears by thirty eight to thirteen or something.

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Speaker 6: So they did much better than that. They couldn't do

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Speaker 6: anything right in that game pretty much, but they did

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Speaker 6: a lot better. But I still worry about getting opposing

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Speaker 6: offenses off the field. Now'll give you example what I'm

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Speaker 6: talking about. In the second quarter when Jackson Dart had

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Speaker 6: the ball at third and eighteen or whatever it was

516
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Speaker 6: going and thought was gonna be a penalty, but they

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Speaker 6: picked up the flag. We let him just run up

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Speaker 6: the field like he was their version of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 6: you know, just let him run up there. And you

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Speaker 6: can't let that happen because you get someone like a

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, they'll run for eighteen thirty. So that's still

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Speaker 6: worries me as well as had their fans are talked

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Speaker 6: to since the game, like it's supermarkets and stuff like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: like you talk to someone you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, Kevin, and And look, I think

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Speaker 1: we do have to take it with a grain of

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Speaker 1: salt from this perspective because third down was concerning. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to debate that for a second, but I

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Speaker 1: think we do have to remember that they are not

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Speaker 1: game planning, and third down is where you put a

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Speaker 1: lot of your game plan into play, whether it's blitz calls,

532
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Speaker 1: different looks, spy on the quarterback, all of those things

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Speaker 1: come to fruition on third down. And the Bills typically

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Speaker 1: do not game plan much at all in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: so you're really just letting guys play. I think the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff will tell you they're probably hoping there's better

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Speaker 1: on field awareness for something like that. The play you

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Speaker 1: reference the scramble by Dart and at times it was

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Speaker 1: not there. Whether it was a quarterback scramble, a screenplay,

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Speaker 1: what have you. It led to issues on third down.

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Speaker 1: We can chalk it up partially to game plan, but

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Speaker 1: I think there has to be better collective awareness on

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Speaker 1: the field on the so called money down.

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Speaker 4: You got to believe that that's what they're hammering into

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Speaker 4: the team's head while they went through film and tomorrow

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Speaker 4: when they're back in the facility on the practice field.

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Speaker 2: The reason why they don't game plan for preseason games

548
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Speaker 2: is really because you're.

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Speaker 4: Trying to evaluate what you have in the roster. They

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Speaker 4: want guys to go out there play, show their physical strengths,

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Speaker 4: show their skill set and let that work speak for itself.

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Speaker 4: Then you implement the game plan once you make the

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Speaker 4: fifty three or once you're elevated from the practice squad,

554
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Speaker 4: and you can do that teaching. They want guys to

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Speaker 4: show who are you first as a player and let

556
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Speaker 4: me build the rest later when I identify do you

557
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Speaker 4: fit here or not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move along and go to Patrick in South Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: What's up Patrick?

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Speaker 8: Hello, Howard and company. Good to watch your show as always, guys,

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Speaker 8: I wanted to revisit a question of months or two.

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Speaker 8: I called up and asked if Josh Allen God love him,

563
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Speaker 8: if he called the plays? Okay, it's simple to me.

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Speaker 8: Why is there pessimism? Is that guy ever about to

565
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Speaker 8: blows down on anything ever? But if you make him

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Speaker 8: call him the plays, put him out there calling the plays.

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Speaker 8: He is the only chance I honestly believe at this

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Speaker 8: point that will win the Super Bowl. Could I can't

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Speaker 8: think of a more dangerous player in the NFL quarterback

570
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Speaker 8: who would be better than him, And I think he's

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Speaker 8: earned it. I think they should ask him, and I

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Speaker 8: think they should try it now. It don't work out, No,

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Speaker 8: have no follow you go back to calling the places

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Speaker 8: as always, But is this guy's what I think he is?

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Speaker 8: Mahomes brows will make them look like amateurs. Now I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna hang up and let you guys talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand what you're saying, Patrick, but this is

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Speaker 1: a team that scored more points than any other team

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Speaker 1: at football last year with Joe Brady calling the plays,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know why you would move off of

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Speaker 1: that this year. And in fairness to Josh, Josh has

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Speaker 1: decision making on a lot of the plays that get

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Speaker 1: called in because very often they're run pass options and

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Speaker 1: you'll often see Josh making an alert where he's checking

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Speaker 1: the play at the line of scrimmage. So he often

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Speaker 1: has two plays at his disposal on most every play,

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Speaker 1: and based on what he sees from the defense, he

588
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Speaker 1: is calling the offensive play. It might be from a

589
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Speaker 1: menu of two plays instead of the whole playbook, but

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Speaker 1: he's making decisions every time he steps up to make

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Speaker 1: you know to snap the.

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Speaker 4: Football and backing it up. Even before game day. You

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Speaker 4: talk about the meetings that these players have with their

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Speaker 4: position coaches and with the offensive coordinator. Josh Allen is

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Speaker 4: in continuous conversation with offensive coordinator Joe Brady leading up

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Speaker 4: to a game day, as they're installing this is what

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Speaker 4: our play sheet is going to look like for Sunday,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen has feedback of these are the plays I

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Speaker 4: feel really good about against this defense. Actually, this play

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Speaker 4: wasn't repped well in practice this week.

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Speaker 2: Let's take it out.

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Speaker 4: There is an open line of communication for him to

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Speaker 4: have that type of feedback to Brady throughout the entire week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, a quarterback calling their own offense really

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Speaker 1: isn't in the cards anymore for the way the game

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Speaker 1: is played now. Steve has explained many times that when

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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly called offensive plays in their hurry up offense,

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Speaker 1: no huddle offense, whatever you want to call it, the

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Speaker 1: menu was not long because in order to go fast,

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Speaker 1: they had to let guys line up in the same spot,

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Speaker 1: so there was no pre snap motion, and there was

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Speaker 1: a menu of about twelve plays. They just changed the

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Speaker 1: look of the play pre snap. Nowadays, with all of

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Speaker 1: the pre snap motion, with all of the substitution, with

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Speaker 1: the RPO game that's so prevalent in the league, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's really even feasible for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: to handle that while also factoring in, Okay, what is

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Speaker 1: my run option? What is my pass option to call

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Speaker 1: on this play? It's a lot. The quarterback has enough

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Speaker 1: to worry about already to put that on top of

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Speaker 1: the heap of stuff that he's got to make functional

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Speaker 1: and execute. I think is a lot, even for smart

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Josh. So hopefully that makes sense. Patrick. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Mike in Williamsport. How are you doing? Mike?

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Speaker 9: Hello, Chris, Hello Maddie. My biggest, my biggest concern of

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Speaker 9: Saturday's game, and I know it's only preseason, was like

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Speaker 9: the they were getting gashed a little bit in a

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Speaker 9: run game. And one thing I was really impressed with,

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Speaker 9: I know, I talked to you guys last Friday was

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Speaker 9: a special teams. They did some really nice things as

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Speaker 9: far as kicking putt returns.

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Speaker 1: I did. Like I know, some people weren't thrilled with

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Speaker 1: Brad Robbins hangtime on every kick, but I think we

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Speaker 1: have to remember, you don't know what he's being asked

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Speaker 1: to do. Is he being asked to hang a kick

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Speaker 1: forty yards to force a fair catches, asked being asked

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Speaker 1: to flip the field and drive a ball down the

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Speaker 1: field and I can't get as much hangtime on a

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Speaker 1: kick like that. I thought he did pretty well all

640
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Speaker 1: things considered. He even got a chance to rekick and

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Speaker 1: kick the ball even further on one punt after a

642
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Speaker 1: penalty and a redo of the down, So punt coverage

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Speaker 1: was okay. They gave up some double digit returns in

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Speaker 1: terms of yardage, so that's a work in progress. There

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Speaker 1: were some encouraging signs on kickoff. I don't I haven't

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Speaker 1: gone and poured over that yet. I was more focused

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Speaker 1: on Robbins as the new punter, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: first time out in that building and there was some

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Speaker 1: win because you were down the sideline. I thought he

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Speaker 1: fared relatively well. He wasn't perfect, but I thought he

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Speaker 1: fared relatively well for all the action that he got

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Speaker 1: early on when the team was punting a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Robins did a good job. Six punts

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Speaker 4: to average fifty three yards per punt. In terms of

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Speaker 4: how new special teams coordinator Chris Taber's operation went, I

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Speaker 4: think we also have to remember last year when everybody

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Speaker 4: was talking about new dynamic kickoff role. Everything's going to

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Speaker 4: be vanilla in the preseason, nobody's gonna want to try

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Speaker 4: anything because nobody knows what teams are going to do

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Speaker 4: what or how they're going to defend it, or how

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Speaker 4: they're going to implement this and that. Because Taber is

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Speaker 4: in his first year in Buffalo, we may be getting

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Speaker 4: a healthy dose of that right now in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: So all the cards might not be on the table

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: he's got three punts inside the twenty. His net punt

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Speaker 1: average is forty two. That's good, and that's even with

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Speaker 1: you some mistackles on punk cover. So I thought he

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Speaker 1: did pretty well as far as the run defense goes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there were times, but really, what you're looking at,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the breakdown of the game at

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Speaker 1: the end, the Giants as a team running the football

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Speaker 1: only averaged three point two yards per carry, and the

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Speaker 1: biggest runs were by quarterbacks Dart with the scramble for

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Speaker 1: nineteen and Winston with a scramble for twelve yards. Those

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Speaker 1: are the longest runs of the game. So getting gashed

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Speaker 1: in the run game might be a little strong because

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Speaker 1: I quite frankly just didn't see it. I mean, every

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Speaker 1: guy that was a running back, Dante Miller two point

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Speaker 1: two yards of carry, Tyrone Tracy three yards of carry,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Ward one point seven to carry, Motor Singletary one

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Speaker 1: and a half per carry, and then Montreal Washington's a receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think he had an end around and he only

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Speaker 1: went for three yards, so I don't think they got

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Speaker 1: gashed in the running game. I really was encouraged by

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Speaker 1: the way Joey Bosa set the edge in the run game.

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Speaker 1: That was good to see. He played like a very

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Speaker 1: heavy handed player. I really like that. And there were

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Speaker 1: some other defensive linemen that I liked in the game

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Speaker 1: as well. Yesterday let me run down my list of guys.

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Speaker 2: Here, you run down the list.

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Speaker 4: I talked to Bosa after the game in the locker room,

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Speaker 4: just talking about.

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Speaker 2: Playing preseason snaps. This is somebody.

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Speaker 1: Who's six years right, he hasn't done it.

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Speaker 4: You know, at seventy two sacks in one hundred and

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Speaker 4: seven games before coming to Buffalo. He said, it's been

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Speaker 4: seven or eight years since he played preseason snaps. That

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Speaker 4: is wild, but Bosa said it felt good to get

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Speaker 4: back into the swing of things, so it was nice

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Speaker 4: to you knock the dust off a little bit and

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Speaker 4: just implement what he's going to do in Buffalo to

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Speaker 4: get that on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as far as edge guys that I

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Speaker 1: noticed the most. Bosa right away being able to set

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Speaker 1: the edge force runs back inside to where his help was. Solomon,

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Speaker 1: I thought showed up at times. He didn't get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, but I thought he was effective in squeezing

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Speaker 1: the pocket down and shrinking it. And then I also

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Speaker 1: liked what Michael Hoyt did. He was noticeable. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: the guy at the end of the play making the play,

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Speaker 1: but he was spilling stuff to his teammates to make

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Speaker 1: plays on the ball carrier or the quarterback. I thought

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Speaker 1: Hoyt was very effective in impacting the credibility of the

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Speaker 1: offensive front. Let's get back to the phones and to

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Speaker 1: Mark in Amherst.

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Speaker 10: What's up, Mark, Hi, Chris and Maddie just had a

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Speaker 10: quick question about our friend James Cook. It appears that

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Speaker 10: I mean yourself or myself. I've had a lot of

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Speaker 10: jobs in my time, and I've never had a job

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Speaker 10: where you can just show up and get paid. And

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Speaker 10: he's under contract, so if he's with Holy dis Services,

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Speaker 10: I thought I heard something about that the Bills could

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Speaker 10: suspend him because he was not a first round draft choice,

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Speaker 10: and I wasn't sure if that was true, but I

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Speaker 10: kind of think that. I think they need to suspend

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Speaker 10: him or trade him, because everybody's saying the right things.

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Speaker 10: He's a good guy, everybody loves them and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 10: But sooner or later, you got to cut bait. So

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Speaker 10: I'm just wondering what can they do with him at

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Speaker 10: this point to move this process along.

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Speaker 1: YEAHS a fair question, mark, I get it. I think

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Speaker 1: when you I think, first of all, we have to

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Speaker 1: recognize the fact that Cook, from every indication we've been given,

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Speaker 1: is participating in walkthroughs, is attending any and all meetings,

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Speaker 1: which includes practice tape view positional meetings, side of the

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Speaker 1: ball meetings, and full team meetings. He's in everything. He's

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Speaker 1: just not practicing right now or playing in a preseason

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Speaker 1: game because he does not want to risk injury before

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Speaker 1: signing a contract extension, which leads me to believe that

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Speaker 1: they're not far off in pushing this thing over the

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Speaker 1: finish line, and he just wants to be smart about

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Speaker 1: his body, because God forbid, he goes out into practice

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Speaker 1: rips up his knee. However close they were on a

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Speaker 1: contract suddenly takes on a completely different complexion because it's

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Speaker 1: going to largely be predicated on what his prognosis is

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Speaker 1: going forward for this season and beyond. So his asset

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Speaker 1: is his greatest asset is his body, and if it's

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent healthy, the value of it goes down.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what's that issue here. And it's clear, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: based on what coach McDermott said after the game, that

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Speaker 1: the lines of communication remain open. There is a give

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Speaker 1: and take not only between being and Cook, but between

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Speaker 1: McDermot and Cook, and they've reached compromise on a number

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Speaker 1: of different things within the practice setting, in the preseason

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Speaker 1: game setting.

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott after the game said he wasn't even asked

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Speaker 4: about the question. He just brought it up in his

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Speaker 4: open statement about the game. He said, James Cook and

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Speaker 4: I had a good conversation yesterday. He agreed to warm up.

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Speaker 4: That is what we wanted. Yes, we wanted him to

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Speaker 4: play in the game, but due to the nature of

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Speaker 4: the situation, he wasn't willing to do so. So I

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Speaker 4: think you are compromising on things that are okay. He

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Speaker 4: could have chosen not to even dress for the preseason game.

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Speaker 4: James Cook dressed and he went through pregame warmups.

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Speaker 2: I think that is somewhat of a win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And very quickly before we go to break here,

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Speaker 1: I think we have to kind of add up everything

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Speaker 1: we've seen to this point and then ask ourselves what's

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Speaker 1: not adding up? Okay. So clearly there is an open

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Speaker 1: line of communication between Cook and McDermott to the point

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Speaker 1: where they can reach compromise on certain elements of practice

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Speaker 1: in preseason games. There's an open line of communication between

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Speaker 1: Cook and Brandon Bean in terms of just checking in

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Speaker 1: with each other. Hey, everything cool, We good, any new

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Speaker 1: bones of contention, whatever, whatever. And we know the market

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Speaker 1: has been set for what James Cook and a player

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Speaker 1: of his caliber is worth based on the Kiraen Williams contract.

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Speaker 1: So with clear parameters on a deal, good communication between

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Speaker 1: the player and the front office, and the player and

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Speaker 1: the head coach, what's missing we can all figure out

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Speaker 1: what it is. And I think that's probably the sticking

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Speaker 1: point at this point in time. So it might not

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Speaker 1: be the player, the front office, or the coaches. It

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Speaker 1: might be the other side of the equation. That's something

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Speaker 1: that we all need to consider here in terms of

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Speaker 1: how it's impacting James Cook and a new contract. Got

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Speaker 1: to take a break here. Ross and Buffalo will lead

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Speaker 1: us off when we get back here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 11: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: Maddy lab with you and getting it right back to

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Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three zero five point fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two, five fifty open lines

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Speaker 1: for you there as we're asking you for your biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaways from the Bills preseason opener against the Giants to

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Speaker 1: Ross in Buffalo next with's up Ross.

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Speaker 12: Hi, Chris m Maddy. My question is I haven't heard it,

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Speaker 12: even though I watched the preseason game, but what is

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Speaker 12: Tyler Bass's injury and when is he supposed to come back?

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Speaker 12: And then I wanted to ask another thing too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been called pelvic soreness and we're going on

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Speaker 1: two weeks here and we do not have a prognosis

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Speaker 1: right now. There was talk and I believe coach McDermott

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Speaker 1: mentioned that Bass may try to kick some this week

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Speaker 1: to see how it goes. So we'll have to see

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Speaker 1: where that goes from here. But yeah, no official timetable

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Speaker 1: or prognosis on how long he might be out.

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Speaker 12: How did he look in camp? How has he looked

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Speaker 12: before the injury?

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Speaker 4: He kicked once, he kicked two days, he had, one

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Speaker 4: day he was he went I think like four four,

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Speaker 4: five of five, and then the day it might have

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Speaker 4: been a day off, and then he went again after

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Speaker 4: that and that's when he had a few makes and

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Speaker 4: a few misses.

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Speaker 12: Wow. I don't want to jinx the Bills, but I

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Speaker 12: really think this is the year if they go to

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Speaker 12: the super Bowl, they're going to win. Obviously they've been

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Speaker 12: one play away. And my question is if they do

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Speaker 12: win the super Bowl, do you guys in the other staff,

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Speaker 12: do you get a Super Bowl ring?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. One I haven't thought of it. Ross.

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Speaker 1: I think that is purely up to people that are

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Speaker 1: way above our page right to make that determination.

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Speaker 4: So every team handles those things differently, because you'll talk

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Speaker 4: to other teams who have been to the super Bowl

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Speaker 4: made it okay?

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Speaker 13: What is?

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Speaker 14: What is?

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Speaker 2: What do you get? Do you get a ticket? Do

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Speaker 2: you get a super Bowl ring.

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Speaker 4: It just depends on what the allotment is for the staff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do know that the Rooney family did that for

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Speaker 1: their employees with the Steelers, because I have a colleague

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Speaker 1: that worked over there when they won their last Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and he's got a big, gaudy ring on his hand.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a sun dial. These like super Bowl

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Speaker 1: rings now, they're just so gargantuan.

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Speaker 2: If I put one on my hand, it would probably

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Speaker 2: look like it was the size of my palm or

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Speaker 2: your wristwatch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's I mean, they're just bananas now. Like

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Speaker 1: some of them have hatches that open and it's like

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Speaker 1: a Repper cub stadium in there, and it's it's bananas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and I guess we would have to

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Speaker 1: get there first and then find out. Uh eighth three

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Speaker 1: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty your biggest takeaways from the Bills preseason opener against

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Got some more thoughts on some players that

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Speaker 1: I liked and players I thought who flashed. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Maddie's got a handful of those as well. But we

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Speaker 1: will take a break here. We are wide open for

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Speaker 1: your phone calls in our number two. So if you

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Speaker 1: have a thought on the preseason game from Saturday, chime

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Speaker 1: in at aighto threeh five fifty because we're taking your

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Speaker 1: phone calls. Next here on one Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. The One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Calllida Health. All right, hour number two on

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Speaker 1: a Monday, Chris Brown Many, glad with you and talking

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Speaker 1: about your biggest takeaways from the Bills preseason opener against

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Whether it's a player, a side of the ball,

867
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: a phase of the game, maybe a play call, whatever

868
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: it is, feel free to join us at eight h

869
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Speaker 1: three h five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

870
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: five fifty Many and I will get into some of

871
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: the other players that impressed us or at least caught

872
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: our eye and flashed over the course of the game.

873
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: But we want your thoughts first, so we go back

874
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: to the phones. And leading us off here in our

875
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: number two is John out in Detroit.

876
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 15: What's up, John, Hey Brownie, Maddy. First of all, I

877
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 15: want to say thanks for getting us through the dog

878
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 15: days of summer.

879
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah too.

880
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 15: You know where every big news was when somebody broke

881
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 15: a fingernail. So it's good to be talking to football again.

882
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 15: I do have a question first before my take and

883
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 15: what did what Tyler Basset's situation. I didn't know he

884
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 15: had been hurt.

885
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got pelvic soreness. We had another caller I

886
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: asked about this too. He's got pelvic soreness, is what

887
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: it's been described as. And there really is no timetable

888
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: or prognosis on how long he might be out. We

889
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: had heard that he may try to start kicking again

890
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: this week, but he basically participated in two training camp

891
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: practices and that was it. So it's going on about

892
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: two weeks that he has been out to this.

893
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 15: Point, right, Well, my biggest takeaway is that Maddie and Steve,

894
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 15: I wouldn't mind listening to you two every week on television.

895
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 15: You guys did a great job. You're in mid season.

896
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: Four, so much appreciate it, you bet.

897
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 15: And then my biggest concern then would be the kicking game,

898
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 15: both punting and place kicking, because I don't think Ray

899
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 15: Davis looks like the answer, And I mean, we only

900
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 15: have a few weeks if Tyler doesn't get healthy soon.

901
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 15: We're going to have to find somebody. And the punting.

902
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 15: I think both of those would be my biggest concerns

903
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 15: at the moment because I think the offensive defense are

904
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 15: both are both going to be fine.

905
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you for you Tang.

906
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, thanks for the call, John, as we stay.

907
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: As I stated earlier, I thought Robins did okay. He

908
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: had good numbers at the end of the game. Not

909
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: every punt was perfect. I know on the Aussie style

910
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: kick that he made, he was hoping to get a

911
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: bounce away from the end zone. It bounced into the

912
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: end zone, so I know he wasn't happy with that kick.

913
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: But I think for a debut performance for a guy

914
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: that's been kicking pretty consistently through the course of training camp,

915
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: I think you do a lot worse than Brad Robbins.

916
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: I think he's the least of your concerns. Obviously, your

917
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: number one is the health of Tyler Bass. And look,

918
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: they signed Caden Davis, a rookie. He signed as an

919
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie earlier in the offseason with the Jets and

920
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: then was released about a month or two after that,

921
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: and the Bills try it worked him out, brought him

922
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: in he had good numbers last year at Ole Miss.

923
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: He was twenty four of twenty nine on field goal attempts,

924
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: had one hundred and twenty nine points for the Rebels

925
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: last year, which is a fat number even in college.

926
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: And let's see what he can do while he's the

927
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: guy I mean, and the whole exercise with Ray Davis Mattew.

928
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: You can shed some light on this because I know

929
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: coach McDermot addressed it after the game. This is strictly

930
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: an emergency situation test, so they said, Okay, let's put

931
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: him in a game situation, a live game situation. See

932
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: how he does.

933
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is something that he's been advocating for.

934
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 4: Yes jokingly, part of this is him advocating for, Hey,

935
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: I want to do it, I can do it, give

936
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: me a shot, went out and got himself a cleat

937
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: to kick in. You want to have somebody on your

938
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: roster to lean on for something like this, and you

939
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: kind of need to give them a rep in the

940
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: preseason to see if it's actually true. Sean McDermott is

941
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 4: the type of coach where you're gonna have your p's

942
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 4: and q's together in every facet of the way possible.

943
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: Because he doesn't want to get into a situation in

944
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 4: game where the worst thing can happen, and it actually happens.

945
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: He's going to make sure everything is figured out to

946
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 4: the nth degree so that when it does happen, you're prepared.

947
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: And to prove just how fine he's cutting it. He

948
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: has even thought about this. What if ray Davis is

949
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: on the field he's acting as our emergency kicker because

950
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, God forbid, Bass has heard can't kick and

951
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Robbins needs to hold the punter. What if ray Davis

952
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: is in the game on offense and scores the touchdown,

953
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: do we have enough time to run his kicking shoe

954
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: onto the field for him to put it on and

955
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: kick the extra point? Like these are the things that

956
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: head coaches think about and roll through their head. Like

957
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: if I get to a point where I'm down to

958
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: my emergency kicker, but I also need him to run

959
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: the touchdown in from the goal line, am I gonna

960
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: have enough time to have somebody run on with his

961
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: shoe and do that in the forties? Like these are

962
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: the things, This is how fine coaches cut it, Like

963
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: he was saying that the postgame press conference. I was

964
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: like I didn't. That didn't even cross my mind, Like,

965
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: but that's how far those are the lengths they go

966
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: to make sure they have any and all scenarios and

967
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: bases covered. It's really I mean, going to those depths

968
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: is really something. Just put Ty Johnson in the game,

969
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: let him run and have Ray put his cleat on

970
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: on the sidelines.

971
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: He joked about it and said, I think Chris Taber

972
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: tied his shoe for him.

973
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because he's got gloves on to hold the

974
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: ball and it's hard to tie choose with gloves on.

975
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to Nick in North Carolina.

976
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: What's up Nick, Fellow ladies and gentlemen. I just I

977
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: got a quick question and a concern. Is Elijah Moore?

978
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: You know I was, I was one of the Bills

979
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: fans when Buffalo signed this guy. I was extremely happy

980
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: because this guy really does have a lot of talent.

981
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: But during the trains, during training camp, and even this

982
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: first pre season game, I mean he I don't even

983
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 3: think he was targeted one time within the game.

984
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: Right, I mean he did only get twelve snaps, so

985
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't out there for a long time. And some

986
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: people might read into that and say, well, what's the problem.

987
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I think what we need to at least consider nick

988
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: is this. I think they saw a lot of what

989
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore can bring to the table in the spring.

990
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: He missed a little bit of training camp, but has

991
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: been back on the field for the past week, and

992
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance that he has shown

993
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: enough to the coaching staff where he was not one

994
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: of the guys they needed to see a lot of

995
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: in the preseason opener, if that makes sense, So don't

996
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: panic yet. I think they know what he is skill

997
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: set wise, and knowing you are already without Shakir who

998
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: has a similar skill set. I think there's also the

999
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: possibility they did not want to expose and risk him

1000
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: to injury, and so his playing time was reduced in

1001
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: this game. Now, if by some chance Josh plays this weekend,

1002
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: let's see if we see more of Elijah Moore, because

1003
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: if we do, I think that will give us firm

1004
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: indication that he's one of their top five receivers and

1005
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: that this past game was an exercise in preserving his

1006
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: health at a position where there hasn't been a whole

1007
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of it so far.

1008
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: Watch a preseason game you need to kind of ask

1009
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 4: yourself these questions as you're watching the game. Is this

1010
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: person not in because they're trying to keep him healthy

1011
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 4: because they already know what he is. Are the people

1012
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 4: that are getting a lot of playing time because the

1013
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 4: coaching staff actually needs to see how they are because

1014
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 4: they're trying to make decisions of does he deserve a

1015
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: place on the roster. There's so many different things that

1016
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: coaches run through and need to check out in preseason

1017
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: football that we are not privy to that type of information.

1018
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: You try to sort it out afterwards, but even then

1019
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: you're sometimes still guessing at this.

1020
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a hypothesis at least one that I have.

1021
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to Michael out in Rochester. What's up, Michael?

1022
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 16: Hi, Chris Amnia, thank you for taking my call. And

1023
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 16: my biggest takeaway is Terrell Shavers. Obviously, I thought he

1024
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 16: played well in the preseason last year, and he obviously

1025
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 16: caught the big pass from Trubisky at the end of

1026
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 16: the first half of a Saturday's game, and it leads

1027
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 16: to my question, do you think there's a legitimate chance

1028
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 16: that he makes the fifty three? And if so, do

1029
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 16: they keep seven receivers or is one of the veterans

1030
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 16: possibly could be an odd man out. So does he

1031
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 16: does make the team?

1032
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, good question. You want to take that one to start, man.

1033
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 4: I think seven is a big number in the wide

1034
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: receiver room. You just think about other positions that are

1035
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 4: gonna need more people. And again back to the conversation

1036
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 4: about we don't know what coaches are thinking. They might

1037
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 4: feel like they need to be heavier at one position

1038
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 4: group this year versus another for a reason.

1039
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 2: That we don't know of.

1040
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: Six is usually as big as you're going to keep

1041
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: it five six, So I would say six would be

1042
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 4: on the high end of what the wide receiver's numbers

1043
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: are going to be. Tyrrell Shavers has been on the

1044
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: cusp of making the fifty three man roster the last

1045
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 4: two years, has landed on the practice squad. Shavers again

1046
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 4: continues to have an impressive camp, showed in this game

1047
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: his ability to be a deep threat. He is somebody

1048
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 4: that is loved by the entire team. Christian Benford, a

1049
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: defensive player, was singing his praises during training camp during

1050
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: his press conference, saying, I've seen this guy work so

1051
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 4: hard after practices, after games, I've seen the blood, sweat

1052
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: and tears. If anybody deserves it, it's him. So you

1053
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: have a whole team that's cheering for him to make

1054
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: the fifty three. Is there a spot for him? I'm

1055
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: not sure.

1056
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: He needs to continue to put good games together. Again.

1057
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: He had those two catches for seventy yards, but he

1058
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: was also targeted four times.

1059
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does have a legit chance to

1060
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: make the roster. I think the coaching staff believes in him.

1061
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: I think they respect the hard work that he has

1062
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: put in for the last three years. This is going

1063
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: on year four now that he's been with the organization,

1064
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: So I think he does have a legitimate shot. Last year,

1065
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: the Bills only kept five receivers on the fifty three

1066
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: man roster when they first made the roster. That is

1067
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: the only year in the McDermot era where they have

1068
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: only kept five. It has always been six, and then

1069
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: on two occasions it was seven. But one of those

1070
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: players I think was ird quickly and it went right

1071
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: back down to six. I think it was Marquez Stevenson

1072
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: if I remember right. He makes the roster and then

1073
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: has put on injured reserves, so then they were right

1074
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: back down to six, so six is probably the number.

1075
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Last year, Shavers, I think some people

1076
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: felt was good enough to make the team.

1077
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 11: Yes, but because.

1078
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: Of numbers games where you're pulling from other positions, like

1079
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: if you take an extra person at receiver, now you're

1080
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: robbing from another position, so you got to rob from

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: Peter to pay Paul. So to speak with some of

1082
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: the decision making you make on the final roster. I

1083
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: think last year they felt comfortable putting Tyrrel Shavers on

1084
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: the practice squad, not worrying about him getting poached by

1085
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: another team. And you can protect up to four players

1086
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: on your practice squad anyway, that's a whole another different story.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that rabbit hole right now.

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00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: The point I'm making is this, I don't know if

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: you can hide Shavers on your practice squad anymore. Point

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: I think he's making too many plays, and so you're

1091
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: going to have to make a numbers based decision in

1092
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: terms of how many are going to keep it receiver,

1093
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: how many you can afford to keep without jeopardizing or

1094
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: shorthanding another position. But I think Shavers has a very

1095
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: good chance to make this fifty three man roster, particularly

1096
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: if he keeps playing the way he did last Saturday.

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00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: We move along to Kenny out in Indiana. What's up, Kenny?

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 17: Hey, how are you folks doing to day?

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 14: Mattie.

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00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 17: I have never talked to you before. I never called

1101
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 17: in with you there. I'm a big fan. Just looking

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00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 17: at me.

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00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: Oh thanks a precidings.

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Speaker 17: Oh you're great. But I'll tell you what my big

1105
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 17: picture on the preseason game Saturday, I mean that that

1106
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 17: game was kind of a microcosm of the preseason. To me,

1107
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 17: I'm just in the camp of thank god that it

1108
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 17: was a preseason game because I'm a big fan of

1109
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 17: the preseason. The fact that so many people, including the

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 17: league at large, want to get rid of the preseason,

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 17: I think that's crazy. The preseason games are how coaches

1112
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 17: round out their roster. Like personally, you all were just

1113
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 17: talking about Shavers. I think he makes his team, and

1114
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 17: I think he does because of several good preseasons, and

1115
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 17: other than that, it's important to get these welcome to

1116
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 17: the NFL jitters out of the way for the rookies.

1117
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 17: I mean, I think about Landon Jackson's big play, his

1118
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 17: big mistake at the end that negated of Bill's interception.

1119
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Speaker 17: Aren't we glad that it was a preseason game that

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Speaker 17: that happened and not the real deal? So I think

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 17: that really showcases just how important the preseason games are.

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01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 17: And when the league goes to eighteen games and they

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Speaker 17: lop off another preseason game and make it too total,

1124
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Speaker 17: I just I wonder about the product on the field

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Speaker 17: when that kind of stuff happens, because I just think

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Speaker 17: the preseason is extremely important. So I just want to

1127
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Speaker 17: hear what you all have to say about Bills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Kenny. There's a fair point to be made

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Speaker 1: of the value that the preseason offers to the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: What is going to supersede that every single time is

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: the value of an extra regular season game to NFL ownership,

1132
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: which means more media and television revenue and more revenue

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: across the board. So if the piece of the pie

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Speaker 1: gets bigger by adding a regular season game and deleting

1135
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: another preseason game, it's going to happen. It's a money

1136
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Speaker 1: making venture to go that way, and so I think

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01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: another preseason game will inevitably be lopped off. And while

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01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: you're right that the preseason games offer value in terms

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: of coaches being able to evaluate players on the back

1140
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: half of their roster. That doesn't really factor into the

1141
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: pority list when it comes to making more money with

1142
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Speaker 1: an eighteenth regular season game, So the coaches in turn

1143
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: very often have to do more with less, maybe make

1144
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: more guesses, then feel confident in decision making that they

1145
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: have to make. Let's think about this. I mean the

1146
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: twenty eleven CBA dramatically cut back practice time for players.

1147
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: That was the one thing. The players got, less time

1148
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: on the field, less time in pads. That made evaluations harder,

1149
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: and coaches over the years have adjusted, and with an

1150
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: eighteenth regular season game, they'll have to adjust again because

1151
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: it'll mean less evaluation time in the preseason for them

1152
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: to assess the back half of the roster.

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Speaker 4: One thing about preseason games that I always remember when

1154
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: people talk about you know, what's the value, what do

1155
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: you get out of it? I remember the COVID year

1156
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: twenty twenty when there were no preseason games before the

1157
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 4: season started, when Micah Hyde was still on the roster.

1158
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: He said it was way tougher for us to get

1159
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: into the swing of things without preseason game games, and

1160
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: it really hindered our ability to tackle. I remember like

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 4: the first three weeks of that season. Defensively, the tackling

1162
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 4: was not there, and Hide said it was because we

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01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 4: didn't have the preseason games to get ready and get

1164
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Speaker 4: into tackling form again, because these players don't do much

1165
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 4: tackling at all anymore in training camp practices. So that's

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Speaker 4: where the value of even two preseason games would do

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01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: that for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because scoring that year was through the roof because

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: the defenses were behind as we started the regular season

1170
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Speaker 1: in the COVID year to Ryan in Toronto, what's up? Ryan?

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Speaker 14: Chris Marry loved the show. Love the topic.

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Speaker 5: First time.

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Speaker 14: I want to start out by talking about the birthday boy,

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01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 14: Kurt have Samuel, who just shourned twenty nine today. What

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01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 14: is the deal with him and what is being going

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01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 14: to do? Is he going to keep him on the

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 14: roster or is he going to cut him, take the

1178
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 14: plane and him or trade him because he's had a

1179
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 14: three year deal with him for twenty five million dollars

1180
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 14: or whatever and he only had three or four catchomp passes.

1181
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 14: If you be with the Bills. Secondly, these being uh

1182
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 14: these years that Bean has been signing and the differences

1183
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 14: between the Bills and the Eagles. They want a championship.

1184
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 14: Bills haven't, and it's going to come back and haunt

1185
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 14: them when those voidiers do come in to kick in.

1186
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 14: I understand this held the Caps, He's going to go up,

1187
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 14: but those these bodious is the must be now situation

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 14: with us five years from now and Josh is only

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 14: a getting any younger either. So I want to hear

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Speaker 14: your talks on Samuel first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, no problem, Ryan, Yeah, Curtis, Samuel's got a

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01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. He missed pretty much all of training camp. Uh.

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: He did work out before the game, uh, pretty stringently

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: on Saturday. So that's a firm indication that he's close

1195
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: to returning. We're still about a month from the opener,

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01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: and his contract is such that it would be almost

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything's impossible, but it would

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01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: be very cost prohibitive to release him in year two

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01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: of his deal. You could get out of his contract

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01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: next year with one year remaining and save some money.

1201
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: That is not the case right now, so I don't

1202
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: think that's an option that's on the table. I think

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: the hope here is he gets back on the field

1204
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: this week. Maybe he doesn't play in the preseason game.

1205
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: But he's back on the practice field this week, stays

1206
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: healthy through the remainder of the preseason, and ramps up

1207
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: and is ready to contribute come the regular season. So

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: we'll see if it happens. I understand the frustration he

1209
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: was nicked up for the first half of the season

1210
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: last year, but playoff time, that guy was important. I mean,

1211
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: he was instrumental in the win over the Denver Broncos.

1212
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: And when you got to the second half that football

1213
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs in the AFC title game, the

1214
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: two players that Josh Allen counted on the most were

1215
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: James Cook and Curtis Samuel. I don't think that should

1216
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: just be dismissed out of hand. So let's see if

1217
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: he can take advantage of the time he still has

1218
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: in front of him before the opener.

1219
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 4: Just knowing how this team operates in terms of feeling

1220
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 4: out their players, what is your role for this offense.

1221
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel was injured for part.

1222
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Speaker 2: Of last season.

1223
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: That's why he wasn't in the fold as much as

1224
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: we wanted him to be. In the playoffs, he was

1225
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 4: trusted by Josh Allen. Like Chris said, I don't think

1226
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 4: this staff is just gonna say, you know, we're good here.

1227
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 4: We saw what we needed to see. You've been injured

1228
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 4: this offseason. We don't want to go down that road

1229
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 4: again this season. They're gonna give him another year to

1230
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 4: see what you are, what you can be when healthy again.

1231
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: It's still the offseason. He's got time to get back.

1232
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: And let's remember offensive coordinator Joe Brady and Curtis Samiel

1233
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 4: linked up for some great numbers when the two were

1234
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 4: together a few years ago. We heard Brady say multiple

1235
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 4: times last year, I need to get Samuel involved more.

1236
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: That's on me. We got to get involved more. Let's

1237
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: see what that means and looks like in twenty twenty five.

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And I'm trying to remember what Ryan's

1239
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: other question was because he asked about Samuel, and then.

1240
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm I can't remember he.

1241
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: Had another question, and I'm sorry, Ryan, I can't remember it.

1242
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: If I do remember, before we go to break, I

1243
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: will try to address that for you as well. But

1244
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: let's go to Liz in Buffalo in the interim.

1245
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 7: What's up, Liz, Hey there, thanks for taking my call.

1246
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 7: I was wondering what's going on with Bishop and Rap.

1247
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 7: How are they coming along with their injuries.

1248
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were told that Rap's knee injury was going

1249
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: to keep him out a week, so that would presumably

1250
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: take him into the middle of this week and without

1251
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 1: practicing until later in the week. I doubt he would

1252
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 1: participate in the preseason game on the weekend, just because

1253
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: you don't have enough ramp up time to get into

1254
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: game speed coming off an injury. Bishop has the quad injury.

1255
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: I think he's getting closer. Did he warm up on

1256
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: Saturday too?

1257
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 4: I don't remember he warmed up. I can't remember off

1258
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 4: the top of mind.

1259
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: I remember Samuel did, but I don't know if Bishop did.

1260
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: He might have, so we really weren't given a timetable

1261
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: on his Bishop no wrap. We were told a week though.

1262
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 4: And I think I mean, I hope when we hear

1263
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 4: from Sean McDermott tomorrow morning that we will get timetable

1264
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: updates on some of these guys who we haven't seen

1265
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: in a week and a half or two weeks, like

1266
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 4: where are they at in their progress? Hopefully Bishop is

1267
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 4: in that update, as well as Tyler Bass and Maxwell Harriston.

1268
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: Is somebody where I'm really wondering it's week to week,

1269
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: But where is he at in that week to week?

1270
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? How's he progressing?

1271
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 15: Right?

1272
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean he was standing on the sidelines their pregame,

1273
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: walking around, no more crutches, so that was nice to see.

1274
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, an update would be welcome. Obviously, got time

1275
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: to squeeze another one in here before the break, so

1276
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: we will go to Max on a celle. What's up Max?

1277
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 10: Hey there?

1278
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, first time caller, a longtime listener. I'm just calling

1279
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 18: to say that I was really impressed by Dion Walker

1280
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 18: and TJ Sanders in their rookie preseason debut that I

1281
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 18: can't help but think about at Oliver's quote about Dean

1282
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 18: Walker saying he is the biggest man he's ever seen

1283
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 18: on ballerina legs and it was really cool to see

1284
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 18: him get in the pass rush.

1285
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 5: So love to hear your thoughts.

1286
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: Thank Yeah, sure thing. Those were two guys I was

1287
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: going to mention. I thought Sanders down to down was

1288
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: more noticeable. I would say Walker flashed more. He wasn't

1289
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: as consistently noticeable through the course of the game. Sanders

1290
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: has got the goods as far as I'm concerned when

1291
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: it comes to pushing the pocket, flushing a quarterback out

1292
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: of there. He wins, and he wins quickly. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: this in one of our training camp shows. There was

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Speaker 1: a snap in practice where he stabbed the offensive guard

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Speaker 1: with his left with his left hand, clubbed with his right,

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Speaker 1: and then swam over him with his left before the

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Speaker 1: lineman was even out of his stance, and he was

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Speaker 1: into the backfield already, and Mike White went running out

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Speaker 1: of the pocket because all of a sudden he was

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Speaker 1: all up in his kitchen. And we saw almost the

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Speaker 1: same exact technique utilized in the game against the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and he won just as quickly, and he won on

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: some other plays too. He saw a guard was over

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01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: setting to the outside, so he just gave him a

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01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: move and went inside on him and got penetration that way.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, and I've mentioned this before,

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing about TJ. Sanders game is

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Speaker 1: it's going to push it. Because Ed had a nine

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: and a half sax season, got the bag, and then

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Speaker 1: last year, I think it's fair to say his season

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01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: was very up and down. There were some weeks where

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Speaker 1: he was the Ed we expect to see, and then

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Speaker 1: there were other weeks where it's like, where's Ed? Is

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01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: he playing? Is he out there? What's going on? He

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: wasn't affecting the game like he can on a week

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Speaker 1: to week basis last year the way we saw him

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Speaker 1: do it in twenty three. And I think with a

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Speaker 1: young pup behind him who's got every bit as much

1319
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: talent as he does, he's going to be inspired to

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Speaker 1: make just as many, if not more plays. So I'm

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01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: hoping just the presence of Sanders and the talent he

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Speaker 1: brings to the table makes Ed inspired to be more

1323
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: consistent down to down, series to series. As for Walker,

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Speaker 1: we know the play he made right, so he got

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: through and patted that pass. Now let's see more down

1326
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: to down, series to series from me.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: For Walker, it's about putting it together consistently. Going back

1329
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 4: to Sanders, Sanders isn't the biggest defensive tackle out there, however,

1330
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Speaker 4: it's been so great to see his high motor show

1331
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 4: up every single play, the way he can push the

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 4: pocket so efficiently and quickly. I also think there's something

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01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 4: to say about a rookie who feels comfortable in his

1334
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 4: own skin. Rookie, your rookie year, it's hard for you.

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: You're learning a new playbook.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to figure out how life works in the NFL,

1337
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 4: and I just get this vibe from Sanders that it's

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01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 4: not too big for him. He's joking around with a

1339
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 4: veteran defensive tackle and at Oliver he's singing and dancing

1340
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 4: on the sidelines. It feels like Sanders feels at home

1341
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 4: in Buffalo, and I think that's showing up on.

1342
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: The field too well.

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Speaker 1: And it's like Brandon being told us in the production

1344
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: mating TJ. You'll talk to anybody, yes, Like he's a

1345
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: very gregarious personality, so that's not surprising at all. And

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Speaker 1: I think Walker too, I think he's kind of he's

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of learning as he's going. But when his I

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: think he just needs reps. Yes, mean, the talent is

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Speaker 1: in there, the ability is in there. I think he's

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: thinking a little bit too much right now, and that's

1351
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 1: what rookies can fall victim to. He just needs reps.

1352
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: And when he reaches critical mass where his game meets

1353
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: familiarity with the scheme, watch out, ye look out. It

1354
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: could be it could be a lot of fun watching

1355
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: him play. Second half of the season. We got to

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but more of your phone calls

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Speaker 1: when we come back. So if you're holding at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty, stay where you are. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to you when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Klaude Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Maddy lab with you,

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Speaker 1: asking you for your biggest takeaways from Saturday's preseason opener

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Got to get right back to the

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: phones where you have people holding and to Steve and

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Speaker 1: Judiculd lead us off this segment.

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Speaker 19: What's up, Steve, Hey, I have a question on the kickoff. Okay,

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 19: early on in the game, there was a kickoff and

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Speaker 19: it fell in the save zone, I guess, and the

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Speaker 19: returner from the Giants had stepped out of bounds and

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Speaker 19: it was actually the first person to touch that ball.

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Speaker 3: Is that legal?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 1: That should be illegal touching. I didn't see that myself,

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Speaker 1: because if you step out of bounds and then you're

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Speaker 1: the first person to touch it when it comes back in, Yeah,

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: that's illegal touching as far as I know.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and it was a miscall then, yeah, it's on

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Speaker 19: on the broadcast, so I was curious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right. Steve, if that's what happened, Yeah,

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: that should have been flagged as illegal touching. Let's remember

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: the reps are in preseason mode two, So there you go.

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, valid question and you're one hundred percent right

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: anything else?

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: No, that was all? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Steve, appreciate that. Let's go to Stan

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01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: in cheek to Waga. What's up? Stan?

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Speaker 5: Hey? How you doing guys? Or Baddy is the Chris?

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 14: Hey?

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01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 5: Listen?

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Do other teams watch other teams still at preseason games?

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not from a scheme preparation standpoint, but from personnel

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01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: grouping standpoint. Okay, you know players that are in and

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01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: out with what units, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what I want to get to is, how come,

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: uh we don't try to block putts or field goals

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 5: or it preseason? If that said, our soulart out. I mean,

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 5: you know they were high turnovers last year, right for

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01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 5: bubbles at the interceptions. But you see some games one

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 5: last year at block at field goals that I think

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 5: there was some games we could have tried to do that.

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 5: I would like to see us try that. Yeah, AKA

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 5: went first Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, So first you mentioned Steve, So I'm

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01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna channel my Steve Tasker here and just tell you

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01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: that what he has said many times is it is

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Speaker 1: a lot harder schematically to do some of the things

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01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: that he and Mark Pike and that whole crew did

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: back in the day now, just because special teams as

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01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: a phase of the game has advanced so much. I mean,

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01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,959
Speaker 1: there'd be times where the Bills and special teams coordinator

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,440
Speaker 1: Bruce de Haven could find a weakness or a compromise

1414
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: in a blocking scheme and exploit it. And it's a

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: lot harder to do that now. Not saying it's impossible.

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01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean we all remember the Rams game last year.

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: Bills had a punt blocked, got returned for a touchdown

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01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: and the Bills lose that game by two points. So

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01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: you can still win a game with a big play

1420
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: on special teams. And I don't know how you feel

1421
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: about this, Maddie, but I know I've said this before.

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01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: This is the first time the Bills have a special

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: teams coordinator with prior NFL special teams coordinator experience since

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. The last two people that have served in

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01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: that role had never been special team team's coordinators at

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: the NFL level before, and I think at times it

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Speaker 1: put that unit at a schematic disadvantage. I think Chris Tabor,

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01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: with his experience and pedigree at the NFL level, maybe

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: not every week, but I think on most weeks, is

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Speaker 1: going to find some place somewhere within the special teams

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01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: phase of the game to give this team a game

1432
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: day advantage for the first time in a long time.

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Speaker 4: Tabor has fifteen years of experience in the NFL. Talking

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 4: to some of his players about what he brings to

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 4: the table, what I heard was he's got a lot

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01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 4: of energy, and it's so easy to trust him because

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 4: he is a veteran in the league. So you've got

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01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 4: guys who are buying in, maybe very quickly, to a

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 4: new coordinator, some new ideas, some new plays. I also

1440
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 4: think there's an advantage to spending a year off from

1441
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 4: football and taking in what every single team is doing

1442
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 4: in terms of the dynamic kickoff, getting ideas and now

1443
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 4: getting to implement them here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll just pass along one more thing. So

1445
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: Bobby Babbage, his father, Bob Babbage, Senor is retired now,

1446
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: but was a coach, and he's former linebacker's coach of

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: the Bills when Sean McDermott first got here, and he

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01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: stops by periodically to take in training camp and stuff

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01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: and see what's going on. And I was just shooting

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01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: the breeze with them on the sideline for one of

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Speaker 1: the practices out there at camp, and he said, I

1452
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 1: just came from watching Chris Taber run special teams drills.

1453
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: He goes it was excellent. He said, like, this is

1454
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: a coach who knows ball and doesn't really do much

1455
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 1: else but talk about ball, and he's watching Chris Taber,

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01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: you know, run and organize special teams drills, and he

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01:18:54,760 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: characterized the way those drills were run as excellent. That's

1458
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: a person who would know the difference between good and bad.

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Speaker 1: So I was impressed to hear that, encouraged to hear that,

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: because I do believe that Chris Taber is going to

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01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: give this team an advantage in that phase of the

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01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: game for the first time in a long time. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it. And as much as you

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01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: want Stan to see block punts in the preseason, let's

1465
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: save him for the games that count. So hopefully he

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01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: finds a compromise in a protection scheme or something like that,

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: and the Bills can take advantage this season. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Len on a sale next. What's up, Len?

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 13: Hey, how you doing. I'm just getting back to the

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01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 13: eighteen game season. I can't see how that could really

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Speaker 13: affect the three game preseason because we could always play

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Speaker 13: the super Bowl in the middle of February. You're only

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Speaker 13: gonna going to effect any thing well and definitely. And secondly,

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Speaker 13: my opinion, this is just my opinion on Cook. Now,

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 13: like the guy, I think he's a hell of a

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 13: running back. The thing is, I think either you pay

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 13: him or you or you trade him, because the morell

1478
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 13: on that team has got to be down a little

1479
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 13: bit from him sitting on the sideline. And thirdly, I

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Speaker 13: don't pay much attention to the preseason, first preseason game

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 13: because I know if both of its rookies anyways, and

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01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 13: nobody's going to get cut really, So thanks anyway to

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01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 13: take my call?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, thing, Lenn, I'll say, first, with respect to Cook,

1485
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: don't I don't see them trading him. The reason why

1486
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: is he's their second most dynamic weapon on offense and

1487
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: at this stage in the game. How are you replacing

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01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: him in your lineup? I don't think you're going to

1489
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: get a comparable player in return if you moved him.

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you could find some bizarre circumstance where that would happen,

1491
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: but I think that would be difficult to pull off.

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Speaker 1: I think they want him here, certainly they year. You

1493
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: heard Brandon Bean said he hopes next year. At this time,

1494
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about James Cook playing for this team for

1495
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: years to come, So it's clear the organization wants to

1496
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: keep him in the fold. Again, I will add it

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01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: up and say, there has been good communication between the

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01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: coach and the player. They've reached compromises on a number

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Speaker 1: of things within the practice setting. There's been good communication

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Speaker 1: between the GM and the player. Where is the communication breakdown?

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01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: The parameters have been set on what a contract should be.

1502
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: There's a breakdown here in the chain, and I think

1503
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: we know where it is, we know where it lies,

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: and that just has to work itself out. Simple as that.

1505
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Speaker 1: He was also Lenn was also talking about preseason scheduling

1506
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: and when they go to eighth. First of all, they're

1507
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: already playing the super Bowl in mid February. You don't

1508
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: want to make it any later. And when they go

1509
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: to an eighteen game schedule, the prevailing opinion is they're

1510
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: going to maintain twenty games total. So you just rob

1511
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: from the preseason to add an eighteenth regular season game.

1512
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 4: And in terms of not thinking like, okay, if we

1513
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 4: back it up one more week in February, where you

1514
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 4: know we're in the true middle of February or towards

1515
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 4: the end of February, no big deal.

1516
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: Well here's the big deal.

1517
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 4: Is a week is a long time and an important

1518
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 4: time in the off season for players. They kind of

1519
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 4: have every single week set in terms of is this

1520
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: going to be a true break for me? When am

1521
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 4: I going to get back into a ramp up mode.

1522
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 4: That's kind of, you know, scientific for these guys, and

1523
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 4: it holds a lot of value and meaning, especially for

1524
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 4: some of these veteran players. And then you think about

1525
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 4: the coaching staff and jumping from the Super Bowl straight

1526
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 4: into the NFL scouting combine, because let's remember that's at

1527
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 4: the end of February, and they do need a couple

1528
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 4: weeks to prepare for something like that. So then you're

1529
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 4: cutting into that time your evaluation process of the latest

1530
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 4: draft class.

1531
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: So I don't think you can really.

1532
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 4: Back it up that much more into February. I think

1533
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 4: the off season is pretty tight as it is.

1534
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. Let's go to Nico next on

1535
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: a celle. What's up, Nico?

1536
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going?

1537
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 20: I I'm you know, We're we're in the preseason here,

1538
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 20: and I feel like a lot of the preseason about

1539
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 20: is about finding like the small small changes in personnel,

1540
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 20: and for me, I think the Bills are facing a

1541
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 20: bigger issue. And that's just just like the It sounds crazy,

1542
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 20: but like the philosophy of the whole team where it's

1543
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 20: like we go through this revolving door of offensive coordinators,

1544
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 20: you know, every one to two years, and there's no

1545
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 20: consistency or there's no identity with our offense, and we

1546
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 20: have this defensive minded head coach. I think it should

1547
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 20: be flipped where like McDermot, I don't think he's ever

1548
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 20: going to do anything to get himself fired. But I

1549
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 20: just don't think we'll ever see the full potential of this.

1550
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 5: Team until we get one of those.

1551
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 20: Young, offensive minded head coaches that can come in and

1552
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 20: kind of just grow with jobs. Well, I mean, he's

1553
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 20: well into his career, but just somebody that is going

1554
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 20: to bring an offensive mine, an identity to the team,

1555
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 20: which is I think what we should have because we

1556
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 20: don't really have any of those, like defensive stars or

1557
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 20: we don't have you know, Josh is our best player,

1558
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 20: and I think the team should be focused around him,

1559
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 20: and I just don't think that's possible with this, with

1560
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 20: McDermott's approach. And it's unfortunate because I think, you know,

1561
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 20: you see like you know Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes

1562
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 20: and you see, you know mcveay and whoever he has

1563
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 20: playing quarterbacks, just like those teams, it's really hard to

1564
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 20: beat them. And I don't think defense wins championships anymore.

1565
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: So, so Nico, let me just let me just be

1566
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: let me just be Devil's advocate real quick. How would

1567
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: you characterize the Belichick Brady era then? I mean, that's

1568
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: a defensive minded coach with a quarterback who was clearly

1569
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 1: the best player on the team. Outside of the two

1570
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: years that they had Randy Moss, they didn't have any

1571
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: superstars on offense. And yes they had some superstars on

1572
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: defense early in their run, But how would you characterize

1573
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: that as a counter argument that.

1574
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 20: I mean, that's a situation where their offensive coordinator was

1575
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 20: consistent throughout Brady's entire career. That they didn't go through

1576
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 20: the revolving door of OC's And I think that's rare

1577
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 20: because I think McDaniels probably could have gotten the head

1578
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 20: coaching job.

1579
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: Well he did, he got he got a couple of

1580
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs, so he did leave a couple of times.

1581
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,959
Speaker 1: He did eventually come back because they had Bill O'Brien

1582
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: as an OC and maybe one other guy. So not

1583
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: maybe the revolving door that you described, but there was change.

1584
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 20: So yeah, I mean Tom Brady, Tom Brady, is Tom

1585
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 20: Brady that that that's just their dynasty. I don't, I mean,

1586
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 20: I don't. I don't really have an argument against that.

1587
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 20: It's just they were very very good.

1588
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 12: Uh.

1589
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 20: I just think with the Bills specifically, I I would

1590
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:56,520
Speaker 20: I just would love to see like like the keys,

1591
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 20: like the everything. I want to pick the governor off

1592
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 20: and just like let one of these young offensive mind

1593
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 20: coaches come in and steer us away from that, like

1594
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 20: grind it out, you know, flight for every yard we're

1595
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 20: going to smash them in them off, which is fine,

1596
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 20: But I just think the NFL's changed and the winning

1597
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 20: teams their philosophies are more that way than this defensive

1598
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 20: minded way. So I just don't see it changing until

1599
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 20: we make a big change. But I just don't see

1600
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 20: that happening either.

1601
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a fair opinion. You're entitled to it.

1602
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll I don't think they play grind it out football. Yes,

1603
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: they ran the ball fifty one percent of the time,

1604
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: but they also average thirty points a game. I mean,

1605
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: that's not really grinding it out year. And furthermore, I

1606
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: would argue part of the reason they ran the ball

1607
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: as much as they did was to control the clock

1608
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 1: because they knew their defense was at a disadvantage most weeks,

1609
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: and the stats will prove that defensively, because the only

1610
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: thing Buffalo's defense did exceptionally well last year was take

1611
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: the ball away. They were deficient in a lot of

1612
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: other areas. You remember the Peyton manning teams that would

1613
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: run the play clock down to one second on every

1614
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: single play because they knew their defense couldn't stop people enough,

1615
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: and so to preserve the score on the board, they

1616
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: held on to the ball and took long, sustained scoring drives.

1617
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: The Bills did it in a similar fashion. They just

1618
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: ran the ball extremely well when they when the play

1619
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: call was to run the football because they have an

1620
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 1: exceptional offensive line. So I think you have to think

1621
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 1: about the whole package in totality to look at why

1622
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: the offense was run the way it was run last year.

1623
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: And then I'll say this, Sean McDermott has done an

1624
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: excellent job of replacing coordinators who have left to take

1625
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs elsewhere, and to his credit, when it

1626
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: wasn't working, he made a change in the middle of

1627
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the season, which is a massive undertaking, and did it

1628
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: successfully to the point where he got his team to

1629
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: not only reach the postseason, but win the division. So

1630
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a defensive head coach and

1631
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: not being good as an offensive head coach. They've turned

1632
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: over the OC spot here and led the league in scoring.

1633
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, I understand where you're coming from, Nico,

1634
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 1: And I know there's this prevailing thought that, oh, you

1635
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: want to keep an offensive head coach with a franchise

1636
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: quarterback because then you don't have any disruption to that.

1637
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: The Bills have had blips on that, and they have

1638
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: responded accordingly in tremendous fashion. So I'll respectfully disagree with.

1639
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 4: The approriation, and quickly some scores from last year wins

1640
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 4: by the Bills thirty one to ten forty seven to

1641
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 4: ten thirty four to ten thirty one to ten forty

1642
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 4: to fourteen.

1643
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: That's not grind it out wins.

1644
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Gotta take a break, be back to close it up

1645
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: next year on One Bill's Live. All right, quickly, some

1646
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: players that I thought flashes. We only have a few seconds,

1647
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,879
Speaker 1: Ty Johnson, Josh Palmer, Frank Gore, Junior, Dan Feeney, Laviska, Chnulton,

1648
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Shavers on defense, Bosta, Solomon, Sanders, Hancock, Jenkins, Andres and

1649
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 1: Hoyt and Milano.

1650
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: Would you like that's a good list.

1651
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 4: I liked what Ty Johnson did. I liked what Conte

1652
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 4: Jenkins did.

1653
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 9: Uh.

1654
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 4: Those are my two on offense defense that I'll pick out.

1655
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: On the list, I'll say players who flashed if they

1656
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: didn't dominate Dion Walker Chase Lunt the sixth round. He

1657
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: was pulling on plays like they have Dion doing doing

1658
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: all right. Reggie Gilliam lot to the tight end, Couch

1659
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: in some nickel work to Corey Couch, and then Dwayne

1660
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Carter had some nice plays too on the inside. That's

1661
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: it for us today. We'll have Ray Davis on the

1662
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: show tomorrow. We'll see it one