1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make a horrible decisions. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Welcome guys to get another episode of horrible decisions. Don't 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: do this what we have a white person in the 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: building yet we don't know. I love doing that. But 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: also we also just talked about how actually dope you 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: are and not really like everyone else. So we'll get 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: into that, but before we do, I'm your girl on 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Mandy v a k A. Pitt the Stallion a k A. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Pagan Marko a k A. Mandy Baskins a k A. Debt. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Mandy loves to go with her Peggy. I don't even 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: do that anymore. I mean, I'm trying. I'm gonna hold you. 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I've been traveling a lot, and do you know how 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: much I've been traveling so much so to where every 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: time I don't even take it out. Now my luggage, 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: the shrap is there because it's nothing to buy a 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: deal dough, but shrust be like eighty to a hundred 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: and fifty for the good ones and bye has like 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: the bell cro mind just like blinged out. It's not 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: blinged out. But the last time that I was in 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: l A the guy that I peg and I really 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: enjoy pegging I didn't have my strap. He came over. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: He didn't bring the last dildo we bought. It's nothing 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: to really purchase a dildo, right, And I was just like, bro, 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't have my strap. You could just stay home. 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: It was pointless to even see him. So now, because 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to experience that again, I literally do 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: not take the strap out of my luggage. You know 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: we got that's a good one. And well, my name 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: is Wheezy, and I would say it's the same for me, 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: but maybe with my charging pack. I just believe that 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Nina's toys. I'm trying to think though, like you're such 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: a mom, not you saying my dog's toys. Instagram stories 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: are like all Nina, Hello, Nina on the plane, Nina 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: in first class on Delta. That's how I comflex that 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm in first class. It's no, it's always Nina in 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: front of the Delta one check in. Because here's the thing, 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I feel like, it's not it's very uncouth if you 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: post that you're laying down in first I was like, okay, 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: I would never be a first class You can't literally 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: post that you're in first class like every other day. 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: But I do it with the dog. So then people 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: are like, just, well, do you know apparently I heard 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: that Valentino the designer has like he has a whole 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: half of his airplane dogs. How many dogs? Like, apparently 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: there's twelve. That's ridiculous. No, they travel in their own 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: definitely fucking basketball team. They need their own plane at six. No, 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: he has twelve. They travel like not even first class, 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: like in their own half of a private plane. They 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: travel in their own car. I think they're like getting 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: the money there. I gave you all those props like, 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're definitely, we're definitely trying. They'll put the 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: mic to the dog like and what did he do? Um? 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: We have a very special guest today who was on 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: our show years ago. You just had five years ago. 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Five years ago, Liz Goldwin, I've always called you a 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: founder of the sex said, but then I remember you 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: were telling me when you were doing prest Fear book. 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, please don't say I'm a podcast. 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: So what are all the things that you do? Because 60 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that as to why you're 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: so knowledgeable for this book to make a book about this. 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm an author, this is my third book. Okay, excuse me, 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was just so much as Nina. Yeah, 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: I've an author. I started out at Planned Parenthood, We're 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: going in the clinic when I was thirteen. So I've 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: been doing what at answering phones, organizing the media library, 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: like playing Solitaire on the computer, telling the protesters seriously, 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: they were always calling the clinic with bomb threats. They 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: were calling, they were calling. This was back in the day. Yeah, 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: this was like pre Google, so you couldn't look up 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: like how to give a good blow job or can 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: you get pregnant from anal sex? So people would literally 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: come in and like check out stuff from our media library, 74 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: which was my job to organize, and they were like pamphlets. 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: I remember the pamphlets because they were also very very 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: much um in the school nurse office and so literally 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: even how to put on a condom. There were pamphlets 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: for everything sex. You would have to go to the 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: nurse's office. But it was only like how to put 80 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: on a condom. Don't get like if you have sex, 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: you'll get pregnant or you'll get and die. It was 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: like there was no there was nothing like there is 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: no scare you to have sex or did it make 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: you feel like now I know, Now I have the tools, 85 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: so I can go fun. You know what, when I 86 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: was that age, I was like answering questions at school 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: that were like way beyond my skill set. I talked 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: about it this in the book, because kids would ask 89 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: me at recess questions about sex because I worked at 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood and they and I would always be like, oh, 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: if you have a yearinary tract infection, drink cranberry juice. 92 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: And that also helped you beat a drug test if 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: you're being tested for marijuana. That's true. The's no way 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: that's now they now they tout your blood. Now they 95 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: touch your blood. They still make you pe okay, well 96 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: cranberry like, but the cranberry did you tell them it 97 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: had to be the concentrate, not the ocean spray because 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: the sugar. Yeah, you don't want ocean spray, you want like, really, 99 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: you can take the cranberry pills. Actually, I think that 100 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: everyone if you're having a lot of sex, pro tip, 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: that's a good thing to always travel with. I hold 102 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: you take them daily. Yeah you're taking but no, I'm 103 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: just saying like you should always have it on hands 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: because I've been caught in an emergency situation, like in 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a foreign country where it's hard to get cranberry and 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: but that, but outside of that, when you have sex, 107 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: like there's been times where I know I just got 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: the ship out of right and I'm tired, but I 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: also know I should go to go go piss. You gotta, 110 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: but I ain't got a pee and half got a point, 111 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna take a cranberry pill in 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: the moment. But that's where like you, But what if 113 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: I go three rounds? Sometimes me and my man go five, 114 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't and I'll try to piss, but towards the end, 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: like I don't already pissed twice, we don't win another 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: round and now I'm just gonna go to sleep. You 117 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: just put that sippy cup next to the bed. I 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: don't think a cup I would get up. The bathroom 119 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: is right in so many cups. I don't know why, 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: why are you being cups? I'm trying to the bathroom. Oh, 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: I know, the last time I did this is crazy. 122 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: I can't even want to say this. So I don't 123 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: have bathrooms in my bedrooms in New York and I 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: had a friend of mine who was on the couch 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: with this guy. And this was pandemic time when I 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: was like the afties. I was the spot during the 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: pandemic to hang and so I had if he really bad, 128 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to break their stride because I 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: could hear them about to funk, and I was like 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: looking around and remember, like, what am I gonna do? 131 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: So I just drank the rest of my drink, which 132 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: made me even more drunk, and I beat in the 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: cup and I remember being so embarrassed to be in 134 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the cup in your own crew is crazy, and I was. 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: I was crazy. It was high. It's like, damn, I'm 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: gonna have to end up having it if I get 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: out there. Like, I don't know what to do. So 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I just beat in the cup. But I remember in 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: the morning when I woke up, I saw the PI 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, now I gotta bring it out. 141 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: And everybody's sleeping in my living I was gonna see 142 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: me holding this cup. It was off. Okay, anyway about 143 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: planned parenthood, what else? We're still going down your resume? 144 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: But who were talking about the corn hunk thing you 145 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: just did? Yeah, well, that's like flash forward a number 146 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: of years. Okay, you want me to go, let's okay. 147 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: So at planned parenthood and then when I was moved 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: to New York when I was like sixteen, and I 149 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: started um collecting burlesque costumes that I would get at 150 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the flea market, and I ended up writing a book 151 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: and my first book and making a movie that I 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: sold to HBO called Pretty Things about the last generation 153 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: of American burlesque queens and the advent of strippers and 154 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: all these people. Especially because I do come from like 155 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: a Hollywood family. They were like, why do you care 156 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: about these dead strippers? No one's going to care about this. 157 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: This was pre like Sea Cat Dolls, by the way, 158 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: pre Christina Aguiley. No post Coyote Coyote Ugly wasn't really 159 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: like it doesn't really like Lady Marmalade. Year did that 160 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: come out? I don't know where years that came out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 161 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: you don't know the year. You know, I don't know 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: you're the year because because I feel like it became 163 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: mainstream when it came out there. So this year was 164 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: two thousand one, okay, so that was after Mine came 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: out two thousand five. The first movie and the book 166 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: came out two thousand five. I was like photographing myself 167 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: in these burlesque costumes and then like learning about burlesque 168 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: and sex from these eight year old women who had 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: been stars of the nineteen thirties and forties. And at 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: the time I was like a young married woman literally 171 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: having my like sexual like awakening through these like eighty 172 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: year old women. It was pretty wild actually because I 173 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: was like kind of like a nineteen fifties housewife, Like 174 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, this is nineteen fifties, but they wouldn't let 175 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: you wear the leather's cart back then. Well, oh mabe, 176 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I was a bad girl. I had for my wet 177 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: for my honeymoon, I went to trashy Laingree in l A. 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: And I had like housewife outfits made like he knows. 179 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: Like that was like my role play was that I 180 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: was just really yeah because I was a terrible housewife actually, 181 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to cook. I was really 182 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: into like making the bed. No, actually didn't make the bed. 183 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: I didn't make the bed. You were a housewife and 184 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: no housewife skills. I was like eighteen when I had 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I could suck a dick all right. I was, God, 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, would you rather have a girl that 187 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: goes to trashy lingerie and has like a full like 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: pretend housewife like little maid. It was like a maid's uniform. Also, 189 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: I love that you can actually live into Like I 190 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't clean this right beat yet, let me push the 191 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: vacuum in one spot for an actor not imagine you're 192 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: doing role play? Well, I mean, I feel like it's 193 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of funny. It is. I'm too goofy. I ain't 194 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna hold you. Y'all ain't get to see it on camera. 195 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: She lifted the whole leg. He showed up the bottom 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: of her Look, I can. I sensed role play as 197 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: soon as you were, like you don't like in your 198 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: head that I'm trying to imagine him asking you a 199 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: question in the middle of role play that you can't answer. 200 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: That's my greatest like beer with role play, Like what 201 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: if I can't finish? Like we're having Kicky Palmer on right, 202 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and we did a little role play with her and 203 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: like I was like, fuck, she's she's just too quick. 204 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: It felt like improv. And then I was stuck. Yeah, 205 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm not like, don't put me in the role play. 206 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Mistress category and be quiet and bend over in your outfit. 207 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: Well that's what I want to do. Yeah, sometimes I 208 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do no talking, no narrative. It's given. 209 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Let's play music in the background, the movie silent movie 210 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: happening here. So you created this book that then turned 211 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: into a film and where the Home came out first, 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: and then the book came out and called pretty Things 213 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the last generation American blast Queens. And then while I 214 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: was researching that, I was always really fascinated with sex workers, 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Like from the time I was a kid. Yeah, like 216 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: always obsessed thinking about if I was born in another 217 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: time period, what would be my choice is as a woman, 218 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: because no matter what, having a volva would like dictate 219 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: what I was allowed to do. Right, Yes, so no, girl, 220 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: I was born in the nineties and still chosen. I'm 221 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: talking about if you're born hundred two hundred, five hundred 222 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: years ago. Now, we always talked about prostitution being also 223 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: the oldest, the oldest oldest work his job, and so 224 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: like I was just always fascinated with like also curious. 225 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Wide society condemned women for often back then like taking 226 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: one of the few choices available to them, and I 227 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't feel like they should be shamed for that. The 228 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: same way that I looked at Blast was like these 229 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,359 Speaker 1: women were performing artists and they had like incredible costumes 230 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: and choreography and music, and they really worked on their routine. 231 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: They spent ton of money on their costumes to like 232 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: three grand back then, like in that's a lot of money, 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: My home girls a lot of money, Medina. They just 234 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: did a burlesque show in the in Chicago and it's 235 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: it was home burlesque theme. She had a beautiful like 236 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: a velvet skirt with a core set up, and she 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: paid almost three her costume and it's one of those 238 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: like you keep it by but she's like, where am 239 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: I going to wear this again? Too? But that's that's 240 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: that's on the cheap end. And it was still like 241 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. Yeah, min, you titties are out. It's 242 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: literally from here down out like the whole. To me, 243 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: it's like girls half a dress, that's you know what 244 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean? So you just didn't like the shame that 245 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: was I didn't put onto sex workers. I don't like 246 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: shame put onto sex period. I don't like shame put 247 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: onto women in I don't like shame put onto anyone. Um, 248 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I think we live in a culture of shame. So yeah, 249 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: like that was my So my second book, which was 250 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: the last one came out, was historical fiction about vice 251 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: and sex work in l A in the eighteen nineties. 252 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: What's it called Sporting Guide? Yeah, because it actually it 253 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: was legal in certain areas back then, including in Los 254 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: Angeles and on the old real maps of l A. 255 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: It says how Seville fame. Well, that's also why a 256 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: lot of the porn is still shot in like the 257 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: valley in certain areas in l A. Right, this is 258 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: way pre porn, eighteen nineties, prere radio. How how did 259 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: you find that in this part in l A? Like? How? 260 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: Because I'm a nerd? This is what I get off 261 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: on all of my my I guess. Like literally, I'm 262 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: in the library, like looking up night graffiche records, like 263 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: adjusting my glasses. Micro Yeah, see I'm a nerd, Like 264 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't know big words and microfiche is like it's 265 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: like film records, like records that are on film basically 266 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: and you have to like roll through them, you know. 267 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I love like a card catalog, Like give me a 268 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: fucking card catalog, the Dewey doscimal system. I love a library, 269 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: like I'm just I'm a nerd that likes to get 270 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: lost in research, whether that's like first person research, like 271 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: I love talking to anyone and hearing their stories, or 272 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: like being like I wonder what happened in eighteen seventy four? 273 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: You know what's about a lot of girls like to 274 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: say they're a nerd, like you know what I mean 275 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: on their like dating profiles. I'm so I'm such a nerd, 276 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: but like you are. Yeah, no, I know when you 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: when you wrote I'm a nerd who can also recite 278 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: most of the lyrics to two Lives. Two Lives grows 279 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: because as you do, Wait, do I have an all? 280 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: You fit the guy's bread there? You show me a guy. 281 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna look like, Like I 282 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: don't have a type, but you don't have a type 283 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: at all. I don't have a type like and I like, 284 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing she has a type. She has a type 285 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: like alternative to look poor. We talked about this all 286 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the time, and then this bitch. Everyone all of my 287 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: friends have met, Like there's a few people that are 288 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: around and they're like they all look like cousins. Apparently, 289 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: even though they're all black, they're like, nope, they all 290 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: like Middle Eastern or Dominican or like they could be 291 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: in their Arabian sea somewhere like the Arabians. They're just Muslim, 292 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: like from a Harlem. What do you want from me? 293 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: That is the type? Then? First off, I can't help 294 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: the nigga from Harlem like me. You know what I mean, 295 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: specifically do beginning? I mean, I don't know why. That's 296 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: why the Halloween I dressed up as a bacon and said, 297 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: this is the only right here. Baby. Yeah, no, no, 298 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: I have no type. You couldn't like categorize if you 299 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: like women as well. I'm definitely attracted to women, but 300 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm pretty heteronormative. Yeah. But that said, 301 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: I feel like in my sixties, I'm gonna get into 302 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: some throuble ship. Why do you say, I don't know, 303 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: because I just feel like that's when I'm gonna get 304 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: really wild. That's when are you keeping yourself from being 305 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: wild right now? Because you're the author? Oh no, not 306 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. I wonder like I 307 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: just like I don't want to. I feel like a 308 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: lot of times people think you stop having sex at 309 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: a certain age or like life is an adventurous and 310 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we should live like that. I want 311 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: to be having I feel like I'm having way better 312 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: sex now than I did when I was like in 313 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: my twenties. Same and I'm the only in my thirties 314 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's way better than my twenties. Yeah, 315 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, it's getting better. I know more of 316 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: what I want. And it's funny that you say that too, 317 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: because we went to hedonism a couple of years ago. 318 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: I remember when you guys want the amount of couples 319 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: though that were like, hey, we've been here fifteen times, 320 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: we've been here twenty five times, and they were all 321 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: well into their at least the white people that were there. 322 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: There was a black party that was there as well, 323 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: but all of the white people that were there were 324 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: literally like well into their fifties. I would say a 325 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: couple of wives and they were like, we've been doing this, 326 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: and they you could sound like they love it. I 327 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: was just explaining barstools on a podcast. What senior suck 328 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: like Senior the senior sex porn genre. No, and Girl 329 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: in the Corner just made the face that you did. Like, 330 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: what's senior sex. I've watched it just for like research 331 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and the only thing I don't want to sound like 332 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: an ages but like I can watch old guy, young girl. 333 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: But sometimes watching older women makes me think of my mom. 334 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: But when I was, it really does. I just I 335 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: can't explain it makes me think, Okay, well, what about 336 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: the fact that we're all gonna look like that one 337 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: day just gonna be out. You're gonna just piece out 338 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: after a certain age and not have sex. We all 339 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: looked like children at one point as well. That doesn't 340 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: mean I'm going to like porn like you. You just 341 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: look like even the same like to me then with 342 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: say the and and we were talking with h Cinnamon 343 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: Love about this. Um there's even still this very popular 344 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: genre not bringing it to kids, but barely legal, and 345 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: I still watched gay porn. I don't like twink categories 346 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: like I don't like males not looking like men. I 347 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: don't like the very small bodied men or men that 348 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: just look like they just got out of high school. 349 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: So even like the barely legal category, even though yeah, 350 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: we've all been eighteen nineteen twenty, we've been since we 351 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: were sixteen, you know, but I still don't want to 352 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: see the barely legal category either, or the twinks in 353 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: gay porn. Yah, I want to At first they used 354 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: to think it was the young young face, and then 355 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I started to like understand, Oh, it's just like this 356 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: innocent thing. It's the outfit. Sometimes it's even the cardigan, right, 357 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, if that's what it is, that and 358 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: that was hot. Well, look, you want to be talking, 359 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: you want to be see look, mommy, you citizens they'd 360 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: be like, come on, grand I'm not saying you might 361 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: just say, like, I think we should like think about it, 362 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: because why are we so afraid of like getting older, 363 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: And why does everybody think that sex is just going 364 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: to stop at a certain age, Because that's a bummer. 365 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Like That's why I'm saying I want to be wild 366 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: in my sixties, because I want to be showing people. 367 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I want to be like turning up with like my 368 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: hot throuble or whatever. Maybe I'm I don't know, who 369 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: knows what. I'm going to ask you why you say 370 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: that as you get older you would consider the throuble. 371 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: And I only ask that because in terms of like 372 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: marriage and long term relationships, right, that's a lot of 373 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: our goals at least to be with a at least 374 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: one partner, you know, And where I've heard a lot 375 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: of people in either long standing relationships or marriage, the 376 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: sex just plummets, maybe because they're getting bored with each other. 377 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: So you're saying that you don't even really like women. 378 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Why would you consider a throuble relationship later on and 379 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: not now? Because I don't. I feel like you can't 380 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: knock things till you try it, if you stay open, 381 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: and so I like to just live my life with 382 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: that attitude in general, even outside of sex, just like 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: try new things. And I think that's important to not 384 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: just get like complacent and like sit in the same 385 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: old ship. And that's why it suffers, that suffers in 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: long term relationships. In my marriage, we were together for 387 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: thirteen years, and I have that problem. But that's because 388 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: what I do is like study sex all day. Why 389 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: don't you think you have that problem? That's what I do. 390 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Like were you what were you doing actively that like 391 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: pulled it out? Because at the same time, like the 392 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: same guy you're used to having the same Like how 393 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: did you actually do it? I mean it was a 394 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: while ago now, but I think it was. I think 395 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: it was because I think you know how most people 396 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: have just to plant around areas of their life that 397 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: they want to improve in, like whether it's like you 398 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: do your workout like or you eat certain things or 399 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you meditate, whatever it is. But like 400 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: people don't do that with sex. They think it's just 401 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: supposed to like be good automatically or like you meet someone. 402 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: Most people don't like actively aren't actively disciplined about like 403 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: taking the same time and the focus that they would 404 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: to like their gym routine or their diet or anything else. 405 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they do with sex, which is shocking 406 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: me and said that this is also what you guys do. 407 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: I've had a partner who like was more focused on that, 408 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: like after sex, stretching, making sure like my hips were 409 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Oh and that's like a thing now, like like intimacy, 410 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: give it to me, baby, But like where like my 411 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: hips or stuff, if he knew he really liked the 412 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: ship out of me, it would be like, well, I 413 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: don't want you to be hurt after this. I want 414 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: you to still if I come over tonight, for us 415 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: to still be able to go at it um. And 416 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: another thing that we really talked about was what we 417 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: put into our bodies. So I shared with a lot 418 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: of the men on here. He drank a lot of 419 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: beat juice which allowed the blood flow to stay. We 420 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: talked about recently about the same thing. Because the intimacy 421 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: isn't switching it up to me. You're talking about actively 422 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: trying something different. Well, not only actively trying something different, 423 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: but taking care of you as a person in what 424 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: you bring into the bedroom. To know, I feel like 425 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: that I could do. I feel like I've always been 426 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: able to take care of my body and be a 427 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: good partner, bring my a game, but actively being new, 428 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: like trying something new, discovering new sex, and like making 429 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: it a focus that's been hard. I don't know if 430 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm really doing that. Then you bring in other people, 431 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: would you not say that are still something that you've 432 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: already done Like I was thinking, I don't know. I 433 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: feel like you're pretty. I feel like you're you're kind 434 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: of always changing up and trying new things because they're new. Guys, Liz, 435 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you our favorite question to ask everyone. 436 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: You had to pick eat asks or suck toes? Uh 437 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: is as clean or dirty? They're both clean m m. 438 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of might have a toe fetish, 439 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: might have a toe sucking fetish. I don't know. Just 440 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: when you said it just now put a big toe 441 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: in my mouth, you know, if it's like a clean 442 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: toe like no calous, we always say eat it. I 443 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, even like I guess Mandy's 444 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: discovered like I literally like I have this was well, 445 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: I had a foot by my face and instead of 446 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: like because he was like really fucking and his leg 447 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: was up by my head and I just went over 448 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: started looking aside of his toe and like made his 449 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: foot come towards my mouth, and yeah, but in my mouth. 450 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Kalile hos to discover a new ship. So finding the 451 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: love of your life and never getting to travel with them, 452 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: or being single forever and traveling the world finding my life. 453 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: I never getting troubles. I'm such a romancheck, not mean, 454 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: but I'm traveling. I still ain't been a grease bitch. 455 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: I want to go everywhere. I do not give a phone. 456 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: You know what, Now I can go with my friends 457 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: and this has been a problem in my relationship forever. Bitch. 458 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: I was singing my whole twenties, bitch, if you think 459 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: about it, I just got in my first relationship, and 460 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: as much as I loved it, I realized how much 461 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: my friends still come first. As long as my friends 462 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere and we can travel the world together, 463 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm fine my family, your friends, I do. But now 464 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: all of them I'm saying, like, Hey, that's why I 465 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: don't have that. You can travel, but you can never 466 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: have sex, a bitch. First off, I would never not 467 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: want to have sex. Well, I'm just saying that traveling 468 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: or I can travel everywhere no sex. You can travel 469 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: every no sex, or you find love of your life, 470 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: you have the best sex of your life, but you 471 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: have to stay in like you know, New York. Yeah, 472 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: I can't. Never gonna get sucked again. I think I'd 473 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: kill myself. Sorry if we had to put a trigger 474 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: warning for that. I just don't like. It reminds me 475 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: of when I was on lexapro and I couldn't come. 476 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I don't want to die, but 477 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: I can't come in one out weigh the other. That's 478 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: why I got off. Oh yeah, I ain't gonna hold 479 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: you like my mom has been around me for the holidays. 480 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: And I'm cranky, and she'd be like, do you need 481 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: to go funk somebody, because I don't like this little 482 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: attitude you got right down, Like I literally get cranky 483 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: when I don't suck. So yeah, I think I'm not traveling. 484 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm not traveling, Okay, damn Greece. So I've found a 485 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: Vanilla Sion article that I thought would be really cool 486 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: because you and I have talked about our love languages, 487 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: and apparently I don't know yours, but your love language 488 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: can tell you about how you argue and fight. I've 489 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: ever heard of that. Yours are access service, right, That's 490 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: what I like to receive. However, my love language now 491 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: in showing my love is physical touch and gift giving. 492 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: So how I give is different than what I like 493 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: to receive right now. It is acts of service as 494 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: to what I want to receive. So so I did 495 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: this quiz and I don't just have one love language. 496 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: That is what it turns as I said, mine is 497 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: gift giving. I think mine's gift physical touch and by 498 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: the way, gift give and words of affirmation. I like 499 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: that too. I like at all, even don't like that. 500 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I'd be telling them how fine they are they don't care. 501 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: I think they because men like to be feed fucked 502 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: and flattered. And we used to say that three finance me, Yeah, 503 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: fuck and flatters. No, I'm saying that's what men. They 504 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: need to be feed, fucked and flattered. And you know 505 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: where women trip up the most, it's flatter them. Really, 506 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: it's because it's just like medium ugly niggas. We just 507 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: talked about that a couple of weeks. I don't know 508 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: why y'all like these ugly niggas. You can't flatter ugly kid. 509 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: You can always find something to flatter about someone, like 510 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: that T shirt like that. You could be like you 511 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: really know how to handle a car or whatever. Though 512 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: you have to wait. You know I just said that 513 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: he said, you know, laughed at me the man. Sorry, 514 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: let me stop saying that and worry you're gonna get 515 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: them me Like, y'all got a white woman and she 516 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: keep dropping a bomb. So I didn't go company, but no, 517 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I literally so my little friend or whatever, he got 518 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: like a big truck and so I literally just so, 519 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: I literally we didn't even start drinking. And oh, big baby, 520 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: big old thing. So he was like in New York, 521 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: you got a parallel park, and I said, this is 522 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna sound really crazy, but it turns me on so much. 523 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: How you fit this big old truck into these little spaces. Yeah, 524 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: I literally told him that, and he was like, bro, 525 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: why you be like But I was like, I never 526 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: told it turns me the way you be whipping this thing. 527 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: It turned me on because the Florida mothers don't know 528 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: how to know a previous problem. O my god. And 529 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: then of course I put it like he fits this 530 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: big old thing, and I like a man who can 531 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: like use his hands to build things, like who's like useful, 532 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna like build me some shelves or like that picks 533 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: some ship around the house, tired right now here and 534 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: mandy about I'm taking out the alright. So words of affirmation. 535 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: This to me is super interesting because this is how 536 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: you fight. So you rely and are motivated by words 537 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: of affirmation. External sources will particularly someone you care about 538 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: making you feel good to reassurance, which means you're most 539 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: sensitive to people's word. It's the critical ones, especially about 540 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: your opinions and your actions. Fighting can make you feel miserable. 541 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: Miserable because you hate ugly language and heated arguments as 542 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, you're not quick to forgive. Not 543 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: to be dramatic, but it may take a while before 544 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: words of reassurance from your partner feel like they last. 545 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Is that true for me personally, I'm like actually trying 546 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: to work on I write about it in the book, 547 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: in the chapter called Mindful Communication. I am really trying 548 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: to work on my temper and the way I communicate 549 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: in an argument, and like, especially when I'm piste off 550 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: and resentful at someone, Like I'm really trying to like 551 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: drop my ego and like listen and not be defensive 552 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of times when we're 553 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: listening to someone, were immediately planning our response in our head, 554 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: like instead of taking them in, especially like if it's 555 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: a conversation where they're introducing, like even sexually, an idea 556 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: or maybe they're interested in another person, that immediately we're 557 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: going to be like fuck you. You know, I can't believe. 558 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: I can't belie you're saying this. But I'm trying to 559 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: be like bit more. Can we ask for honesty? But 560 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: then we don't handle it the way now because we 561 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: feel ejected, rejected or abandoned or all those things. I'm 562 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: trying to be Like the best thing that I think 563 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: I've been able to do is not feel stupid in 564 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: an argument, like ask questions whether they sound like they're 565 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: super simple or not. And also like when you say 566 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: taking ego out of it, like platonically or professional, Like 567 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to like if someone says something 568 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: and they're the type of person to feel like they 569 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: want because you can argue with a guy or a 570 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: woman and you're in a relationship and they need to 571 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: let you know, you know what I mean, like they're 572 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: the top dog. I kind of just let it go 573 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: because I can't change your personality. But if you are 574 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: right and I can acknowledge that, at least next time, 575 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I can work towards you giving me the same grace. 576 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: But it's like I've definitely dated men that are just 577 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: so up their own asks that they just know what 578 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: they're saying is right and so immediately because they're they're 579 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: those types of people, I just I'm like, no, they 580 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: I'll give use the credit one where that's like one thing, Now, 581 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: what can I do? Like life too short? And that's 582 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: the problem about dating I would say older men. Um 583 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: even with my ex and even talking to older men 584 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: that I've been talking to recently, like I've been in 585 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: therapy for the last two years and so like I'll 586 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: let them know things they need to work on. And 587 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: older men, specifically older black men, I noticed, are so 588 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: against therapy because they feel like I've been this way 589 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: for this many years and it got me this far. 590 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with who I am. I even have this 591 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: conversation with my friends like how their partners just won't 592 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: seek help even in terms of just knowing how to 593 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: communicate with a partner. Like I'm not bashing you as 594 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: much as I feel like this is something you should 595 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: work on. And a lot of people not receiving EVE 596 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: that covers a lot of Yeah, but that's really stigmatized 597 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: still in therapy, especially for men. It is especially for men. 598 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: And then I know a lot of white guys who 599 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: are like obsessed with therapy and they literally will go 600 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: to therapy twice a week because literally like talk about 601 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: themselves and I'll be like, it's not working for you. 602 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, literally, I'm like, you're paying someone to just 603 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: talk about yourself for an hour twice a week, and 604 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: it's not fucking working. Because you're still a man child 605 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: who has mommy issues. Um, so you need to see 606 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: a somatic therapist. And they're like, what's that. I'm like, 607 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: you're not in your body. What's that? Explain to me, 608 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: teach me your glasses. We have a horror derve tip, 609 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like we've you've already given us a 610 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: great tip about sex, and it's discovering something new. So 611 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: we have a new thing we've been doing with guests 612 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: where they tell us a horror story which is a 613 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: terrible dating or yeah, okay, I have a good one. Well, 614 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: for me, it was a horror story. I was with 615 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: my boyfriend and it was like ten days into the relationship. 616 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: And I used to be the kind of person where 617 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I literally would see someone, I'd be like I want 618 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: to suck the ship out of them, and then I'd 619 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: be in a relationship because, as you and I have 620 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: talked about, I cannot separate sex from love. I cannot 621 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: have casual sex. I just can't read me like a book. Basically, 622 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: when I told her about the skater guy, and as 623 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: you guys know, his girlfriend showed up on the date 624 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: and she was like, you can't suck him again because 625 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: you can't distinguish the two. Like then she told me 626 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: this sucked me up. So after I had sex with him, 627 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: I was sick for a week. But mind you, we 628 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: were kicking it all night. Sucked up whatever. She's like, 629 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: your body literally rejected him, and you went, did it? 630 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Did she got sick for like a full bodies with people, 631 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: our bodies, no things, and our mind. Our logic tries 632 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: to disremard it, like imagine the things that you steal 633 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: in your She thought, that's what you know, I've never 634 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: put two into like the fact that I mean when Mandy, 635 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: when I tell you I was sick hours later, like 636 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: just because the girlfriend showed up the first time. This 637 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: is the first time I told you on Patreon, maybe 638 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: no one remembers the same. The skater guy sucked him. 639 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: And then because we used all those kind of then 640 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: we went on the date with the condom sex. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, 641 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: I sucked him first. It was amazing sex. And but 642 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: you were sick for like a week. I know. But 643 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: I lost six pounds and it jumps started finding so 644 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: didn't he It was you could just like lick a 645 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: door handle and he was sick. But well, oh waits 646 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: so you were sick, is like not where your vagina 647 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: was broken, but where like she was like was sick. 648 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: Because our bodies tell us things all the time, we 649 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: just don't listen. We all have intuitive wisdom in our bodies, 650 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: and we literally spend most of our time ignoring it, 651 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: ignoring those those little signals. In fact, like when you 652 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: talk to people who deal with like um violence, like 653 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: whether it's sexual violence or victims of violence, they'll often 654 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: tell you I have the strange feeling or I thought 655 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: there was something off, but I want to be polite 656 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: or ignored it. You're you're your own best psychic in fact, 657 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: really like your body will tell you. And if you 658 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: start to notice the cues, like for example, like you 659 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: can feel like is your what's your stomach doing in 660 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: a certain situation? Or your bowels? But I don't know, okay, 661 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: horror story. So I was like ten days into this 662 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: relationship and we're not. I know. I'm telling you, it's 663 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: like a problem. Like literally, it's why I do have 664 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: no self control. So I'm getting better. I'm getting better. 665 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: But um, so we weren't. We were still using condoms, 666 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: and the condom got stuck in my fucking cervix. It 667 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: got stuck in my services, which probably yeah, so I 668 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: that had never happened to me before. I'm like digging 669 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to dig that ship out for thirty minutes in 670 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'm like, I don't have to go to 671 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: the hospital. It's gonna be like I have a fucking 672 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: sex company. This is so humiliating, like like bleeding trying 673 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: to get this thing out. And then I I finally 674 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: get it out, I'm like, I'm never having sex again, 675 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: of which I did. I go to the kind of 676 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: cologists in between, because that like forces the conversation basically 677 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: about not using condoms, which was like a little early, 678 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm scared to ever use a 679 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: condom again. Um. I go to kind of cologist that 680 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: was like on a Saturday. I go to condoge College 681 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: on Friday, and she's like, Oh, it's like a one 682 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: in a hundred thousand chance that that would ever happen again. Okay, 683 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: it happened to me the next day. Something he wasn't wearing. No. 684 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: I think they were too big wet, and I just 685 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: that's that's what you like out and had to come 686 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: off like I'll tell can you keep checking is it 687 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: still there? Because it's no A little yeah, for sure. 688 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: It made me paranoid like that, like you please, let's 689 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: chock Late's shot would have been next that I have 690 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: to keep. Did you have to pee it? Like? What 691 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: did you the same thing? No? No, I had, No. 692 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: I dug it out eventually. But like he might. He 693 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: might have been rolling that thing off because he ain't 694 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: wanted on his dick and all that she happened that quick. Yeah, 695 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: he was doing he ain't put it all right? Did 696 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: you put it on? Or he put it on? He 697 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: put it on? Put it all right? And he did 698 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: it because we had sex lots of times in between 699 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: that and it was ten days girl. Did he help 700 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: you take it off? No, he didn't help me take 701 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: it out, because it was like one person put out 702 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: the cell phone flashlight and was trying to look up 703 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: in my Okay. I could feel the edge of it though, 704 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, and you can feel just a little rib 705 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, and then I was afraid it 706 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: would like break off. And then your nails were this 707 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: short time I could feel it, were they like humiliated, 708 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: Like my nail else are not long right now, but 709 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: these are short and then it's still broke. I gotta 710 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: go to the salon and get it fixed. They don't 711 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: make acrylic and gel like they used to. I'll tell 712 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: you that they just don't. They just don't. It's cheaper 713 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: now I'm paying trouble the price, and the product is not. 714 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: The snails used to be so set and at lasts 715 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: a month, not anymore. I gotta go every goddamn two weeks. 716 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: So let's get back into this, okay, okay, um. So 717 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: I read the book in a PDF, which was so difficult, 718 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: even though you sent me a hard copy. I didn't 719 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: want to tell you the truth. I thought I lost 720 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: the book and my mom found it, so that was terrible. 721 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: I did this whole thing of where I was like, 722 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: I really want to read this book because Liz told 723 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: me a story about someone who didn't read it that 724 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: she cared about and like disregarded it. I was like, no, 725 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't really read this ship. So she sent me 726 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: a hard copy and I was getting into it, lost 727 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: it and my mom called to me and she goes, 728 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: I just thought one of your sex books in the house. 729 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh, it's my friends. But in 730 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: the middle of reading this book, I told you that 731 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: a lot of feelings came out, like you did a 732 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: lot of what do you call like the follow up 733 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: questions and things like the exercises, and actually just stopped 734 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 1: at one point because it was really making me think. 735 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: And I think I picked my favorite topics from this 736 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: because I thought Mandy and I definitely have brought up 737 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: things that this could be useful with. So the first 738 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: thing that I want to bring up that you had 739 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: some good questions that made me stop was the filling 740 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: the Void chapter. And this isn't one book again if 741 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: we could just mind. Yeah, that's Health and Consciousness, which 742 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: is out now, which is Health and conscious That's Health 743 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: and Consciousness because I want, yeah, I want to elevate 744 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: your consciousness. And on the cover of it, it says 745 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: free your mind and your ass will follow, like the 746 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: seminole like George didn't follow from me, like Parliament Fadelic. Okay, well, 747 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: buy your girlfriend this book and listen to it. You 748 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: can listen to it. I narrate it. Oh it's your 749 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: it's my audio book. Look, that's what she would because 750 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: because I just finished doing it like a two weeks ago. Yeah. 751 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: I love audio books, especially when the author gets in 752 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: there and it's their voice or their voice goes back 753 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: and forth, like I love I love audiobooks as well. 754 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: Did Obama do his own? But here I've just kind 755 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: of think about his voice and it's just like I 756 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: feel like that'd be a good one to listen. He 757 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: has a married man, look at you getting your rock 758 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: sof fantasy but not married anymore. I got to sit 759 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: that ass to me that as I'm sorry, booting hole. Freedom, 760 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: Let's get back to it. Listen Freedom, Okay, Filling the void? 761 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: Can you talk about that chapter because I want to 762 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: talk about maybe a moment where we've all had done that, 763 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: because I know I have, Yeah, filling the void in 764 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: what way? Like in any way like you could filled 765 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: the void with sex, with food, with drugs and alcohol, 766 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: with with with porn. It's kind of when you consume 767 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: something mindlessly just because you're like anxious, or you're lonely, 768 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: or you're feeling like bad about yourself. You're having like 769 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: a moment of low self worth. Like have you ever 770 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: just like just ate something like whatever, like two bags 771 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: of chips or sucking pizza because you're just feel shitty 772 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: and you kind of want to, like literally fill that 773 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: void you want to consume. And a lot of times 774 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: I think we use sex in that way for that. 775 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: I eat chocolate and ice cream when I'm all my 776 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: Paris and I'm like, well, I can do this, but 777 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: for the for the form filling a void, Um, that's interesting. 778 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: I would love to like look into that. I don't 779 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: feel like I do that often. However, I have um 780 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: been told that when something doesn't go my way, I 781 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: immediately look into something else that I can control, whether 782 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: it's something something else in my job, whether it's immediately 783 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: booking a flight to be with my friends, it's just 784 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: something I guess I escape. That's the same. It's kind 785 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: of the same thing. You're like when you're avoiding something 786 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: that you'd rather not feel like. It could be fear, 787 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: anxiety and security, loneliness, like depression, any of those things, 788 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: and you're reaching for something else. So it's okay, like 789 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: funk who you want to fuck, but just be conscious of, 790 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: like are you fucking this person because because you actually 791 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: want to and you want to feel pleasure, you just 792 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: sucking them because you feel so shitty about yourself. That 793 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: is the only way that you can like validate Basically, 794 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: you're worth because I think a lot of us use 795 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: sex in that way. So when we when we're mostly 796 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: as a culture, I think where a lot of us 797 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: were mostly wired to use sex that way, and that's 798 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: the message we receive all the time because like to 799 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: when you're like not feeling I didn't even tell you, 800 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: but I'll bring it up. I had sex recently. I 801 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: posted this picture of me in a rope with like 802 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: a ponytail, and it was like really cute, and everybody 803 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: was failing it and end up having sex at night. 804 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: And I remember in the morning I had fun. I 805 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: wasn't feeling down about it, but I said, and I 806 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: have sex because he made me feel pretty? Like was 807 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: that why I sucked this guy? Like I was feeling 808 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: super sexy that night and I was feeding into it. 809 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: And I thought about your book, because I was like, 810 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: what was the difference here? Like was I feeling down? 811 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: Because literally I only got dressed up to take a 812 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: cute picture and go out, so I was already feeling 813 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: like ship so I boosted it up with that, right, 814 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: So then the next thing that happens is I have 815 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: is I have sex? Did I do that because I 816 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: needed to feed into that was I feeling a void 817 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: or was I actually making an active choice to puck 818 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: somebody and I couldn't figure it out. Well, I don't 819 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: think you need to judge yourself. Is the thing is 820 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: like you just notice it, Like you don't have to 821 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: beat yourself up over it, over like eating the pizza 822 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: because you feel like ship or whatever. It is, like 823 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: you just notice it. You just you know, when you 824 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: feel like this again, you don't make that same or 825 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: you just noticed that pattern and you start to think 826 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: about like, oh, if I am mostly using sex and 827 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: this way, maybe I'm not tapped into like the full 828 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: potential of what my pleasure could be with sex. It's 829 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: kind of like reframing the way we think about things. 830 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: I do think I opened my shakers up whenever I 831 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: have sex. I opened your chakras up when I took 832 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: you to that Kundalini class, to a fucking Kundalini class, 833 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: And it was so funny because after we took it, 834 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep saying Kundalini class. Kundalini is like 835 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: Kundalini yoga, but it's this idea. It's very very ancient. 836 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: It's like it's like thousands and thousands of yours. There's 837 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: two fucking hours, two hour yoga class. It's not yoga 838 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: like you're like a downward dog and up and down. 839 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: It's really about breath and muscle control. This is not 840 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: if you're looking on YouTube, she's hold on. This is how. 841 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: It's not all like that. Well they handed out tick 842 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: that how a bunch of people doing this. This is 843 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: COVID's pre COVID. Literally, you have that thing ain't gone. 844 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: Was so fucking tired. My mouth was tired. I was 845 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: getting and like mind you, he's also he was like this. 846 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: He was sucked up. And Liz is like in her 847 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: zone like high back and like him and I canna 848 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: look at I tell you, But I was liking it. 849 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: It just was taken too long. You did two hours 850 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: a day. Okay, So you can get high from your 851 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: using your breath. You're high because you're so much like 852 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: delust your breath. That's why you like it. You can 853 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: bring yourself to orgasm using your breath. Orgasm. No, we 854 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: weren't learning that technique then, but I thought about my 855 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: book half of the time. Yeah, I teach it in 856 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: my book. Well, what Kundalini yoga does is it opens up, 857 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: so they say, Undalini yoga is like imagining your spine 858 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: like a serpent like that, Like it's a serpent, you know, 859 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,479 Speaker 1: the head of the serpent is here and the tail 860 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: is that your paraneum. You know you like waking up. 861 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: It's waking up the sexual energy. It's waking up your 862 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: sexual energy. Definitely. I don't know it's because he was 863 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: there or if my mouth was open, but like I 864 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: thought about sex more than I had in any other 865 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 1: you know what else makes me really wet just getting 866 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: a random massage and when they get into them five like, who, 867 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: I hope they don't feel I'm getting wet down here. 868 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: I could just get massaged instead of But the thing 869 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: with the breathwork is like so d M T is 870 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: the thing that makes you feel high, right, and apparently 871 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: you can create that with them where you're doing that 872 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: kind of breathing, which we actually just had a Vanilla 873 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: ship maybe a couple of months ago, where the one 874 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: of the tricks to obtaining an orgasm is control of breath. 875 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: I write about it control making jokes now, but we 876 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: literally did just have that conversation here. It was like 877 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: a Vice or Cosmo article, but literally where people feel 878 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: like they have haven't been able to achieve orgasm a 879 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 1: lot of it. First, you have to be really comfortable 880 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: with a your partner, but just being comfortable in the 881 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: flow of how you're breathing. If you're like tense and 882 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: you're breathing or your heart rate is not at a 883 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: normal pace, you're probably not going to reach work because 884 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: most of the time we're not breathing, like just on 885 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: an average day, we're holding Yeah, no, we're holding our 886 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: breath a lot. We're not taking deep breaths and also 887 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: when you take deep breaths. But you also learn to 888 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: use your engage your pelvic floor muscles. And it doesn't 889 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: matter if you have a penis or evolved that you 890 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: have public floor muscles. It's the muscles that you squeeze 891 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: if you're trying to stop peeing basically, so it leads 892 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: to like heightened or orgasms. It leads to less in 893 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: continents as you grow older, meaning like not pissing yourself. Yeah, 894 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: it's like really good too about your pelvic floor muscles. Man, 895 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: if you want to learn how to use it or 896 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: you might be confused, make your dick chump and it's 897 00:47:53,239 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: around that area, Dick jump. What's some sex surgacy. You 898 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: brought that up in the book, and I was curious 899 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: if we can talk about that because I haven't heard 900 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: about that before. Those sex surgacy. If you if you're 901 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: thinking about different kinds of like sex therapy, like a 902 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: sex therapist, there's there's adjacent sex therapist like sex surguates 903 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: that will basically kind of teach you in a more 904 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: physical way. Are you lying, I'm not lying. I'm not lying, 905 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: but sex surgus sounds like if you can't not exactly 906 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: like that. It could be like a lot of times 907 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: will work with people who are disabled for example, that 908 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: may have like trouble finding partners or like having intimacy 909 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: with people, or need to learn different ways. Yeah, there's certification, 910 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: like now it's a legitimate thing. Or they could be 911 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: like some people may have like trauma, um, you know, 912 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: they may have vaginismus and they may not be able 913 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: to come, or they may like they or they may 914 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: have a rectile dysfunction. It could be like a whole 915 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: host of things that are normal things that happen to everyone. 916 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: But like sex surrogacy is like can be a more 917 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: like hands on type of therapy. Is it expensive? If 918 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: everyone listening is like, let me look into this, let 919 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: me look into it, Like what, there's all different levels, 920 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 1: there's all those levels of sex surgasy. Okay, I really 921 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: pull right, So like it's not like sex. It's not 922 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: sex work. You're not hiring a sex worker to have 923 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: sex with you. And I'm not disabled. No, I'm saying 924 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people use sex cirgus for all different 925 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: kinds of reasons that ve all different types of the 926 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: wonder like what the differences would be not only in 927 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: what you engage in for say, assume an hourly rate, 928 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: like what that comparable to therapy? Comparable to therapy? But 929 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: there's more, but there's expensive. Well, I think it's like 930 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think it depends on where you are, 931 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And sometimes sex surrogacy can include touch, 932 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: so sometimes it doesn't. You know, it's all sorts of 933 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: different things. And like you obviously have a conversation with 934 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: that person and intake form before you is there is 935 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: it covered by insurance? I highly doubt. I highly doubt that. 936 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I mean, I think, you know, 937 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: sex is still something that we're so squeamish about abortions 938 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: are covered by well, what's crazy even freezing your eggs. 939 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of fertility things that still aren't covered 940 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: by some insurances or you have to go through outside sources. 941 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: But by the way, those are going to go away 942 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: too if we be wade, if there's a nationwide abortion 943 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: band IVF, egg freezing is all going to come under 944 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: that same rule of really yes, because it's discarding embryos, 945 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: and none of those assisted reproductive technologies would have been 946 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: possible if Roe v. Wade wasn't made legal in all that. 947 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh yes, So all these like millennial companies that were 948 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: promoting like your freeze your eggs on Instagram, they should 949 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: have been like out there and they should be now 950 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: like really and you know, talking about these things because 951 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: it's already happening in a lot of states where people 952 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: are not allowed to. Yeah, it's a real thing. That's 953 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: why it's not like the issues at stake are not 954 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: just about abortion. It's really about so much more and 955 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: a lot of reproductive rights. By the way, I had 956 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: a conversation um with uh we talked about in our 957 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: Patreon but and I have five raids and was talking 958 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: about egg freezing, and I talked about it briefly with Mandy. 959 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: When I brought it up to Liz, it's really you've 960 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: really fucked my head up the last week, because, for one, 961 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: you're such a liberal person when it comes to any 962 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: kind of science, medicine or women's health rights that when 963 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: you told me egg freezing is such a capitalist thing, 964 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: I really never thought of it that way. So basically 965 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: I was telling her, like, I have to go freeze 966 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: my eggs now, right and let me talk. And you 967 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: were kind of like, you're young. You didn't even look 968 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 1: into how many eggs you have. And it wasn't like 969 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: it was me more than it was the doctor. I 970 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. You just told me to 971 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: do this right. And on top of that, it's like, 972 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: how do I even know about my own fertility? Later, 973 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: like why wouldn't I look into other forms of medicine? 974 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: But when I realized how much it costs to freeze 975 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: your eggs and how it is a lot of fearmongering tactics, 976 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: like I'm actually leaning the other way. My mom had 977 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: me at forty, not that I plan to have a 978 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: kid at forty, but like egg freezing is so common 979 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: to talk about now that you just think you should 980 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: be doing it immediately when you're like younger and single, 981 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: because the eggs are healthier. But like, why didn't I 982 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: think about acupuncture or even taking hormones or any other 983 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: ship besides let me freeze these eggs? Well, I think 984 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: also because a lot of doctors, you know, they only 985 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: have eight hours of sexual intake training in medical school. What. Yeah, 986 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: so a lot of times, like I have thirteen nieces 987 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: and nephews, I have a lot of I have four 988 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: brothers and a sister, but you know, we don't all 989 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: the same mom. But I've been yeah, around a lot 990 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 1: of kids and of different ages, and they all come 991 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: to me when they first got like you know, their 992 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: I U D or birth control, and they just tell 993 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: me these things. And like the gynecologists doesn't even ask 994 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: any questions about like their sexual history, their medical history. 995 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: They just like, here, take this. And people aren't informed 996 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: enough about their own bodies that they don't think to 997 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: ask questions. And especially black women have a really high 998 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: rate of fibroids. Yeah, which I was surprised that you 999 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: didn't know, like before coming into that that no one 1000 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: has told you that that you know, because so I 1001 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: knew that black women at fibroids, but not that that 1002 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: it's a huge rate. And then even on top of 1003 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: that saying I didn't even know, you're right, like at 1004 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: a friend of mine who had five braids and only 1005 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: knew because she went in fregg freezing because you have 1006 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: to request in ultrasound. But gynecologists should be having they 1007 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: should be informed on a lot of different issues, including 1008 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: like when it comes to racial disparity and in medical care, 1009 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: they should be trauma informed, and like we should know 1010 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: these things and question them, like, oh, you want me 1011 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: to spend likes on freezing eggs or whatever amount of costs, 1012 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: like ask some questions first, it's now just being sold 1013 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: and like or you know, not for long, right, I 1014 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,439 Speaker 1: think realistically with the way the country's going. But it's 1015 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: like package does this thing that makes you a fucking 1016 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: girl boss or some ship like us your eggs, like 1017 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: go have a career, And it's just not that not 1018 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: only that, it's it's unfortunate that. Um, there was a 1019 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: recent study done and I can't I can't remember the percentage. 1020 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: I actually did have a conversation about this on period Sis, 1021 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: But um, recently, they've said for Black women who have 1022 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: frozen their eggs or are looking to go through UM 1023 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: I v F with a sperm donor specifically that now 1024 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: black women have to pretty much pink on not having 1025 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: a full Black child because there's not enough either eggs 1026 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 1: or um sperm donors that are black to fully, you know, 1027 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: create a full Black child. And I did a whole 1028 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: episode where a woman who was a kindergarten teacher, and 1029 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: it was so sad, like she made me cry during 1030 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: the episode because she was talking about how she's everyone's 1031 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: mom as a kindergarten teacher, and in terms of her 1032 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: seeking eggs, like and it wouldn't be a syrocate, it 1033 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: would just be her receiving an egg from someone else 1034 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,760 Speaker 1: because she couldn't she had the body of a fifty 1035 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: seven year old and she was like twenty eight or 1036 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: thirty or something like that. Um And the conversation literally 1037 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 1: led into the fact that there's not even a lot 1038 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: of Black women able to donate eggs. So the fact 1039 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: that we may be reaching an arrow where you can't 1040 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: freeze your own but also for women who aren't producing 1041 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: eggs that want to go out and get eggs, they 1042 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: don't even have the option to get black eggs or 1043 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: black sperm donors anymore. Well, I mean guyacology, Like the 1044 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: father of the speculum was a racist motherfucker who was 1045 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: experimenting on slaves. So a lot of the things that 1046 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: we take for granted as like science and fact is 1047 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: based on really broken white supremacist systems, which I go 1048 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: into in this book that like the whole model of 1049 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: sex education and like the medical sexual system that we're 1050 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: dealing with is based on a broken system. And it's 1051 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: not like it's not teaching like young women and young 1052 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: black women. These are the things that like you need 1053 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: to know to ask your gynecologists, and is not teaching 1054 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: gynecologists and doctors. These are the things that you need 1055 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 1: to know to ask your patients. Do you have any 1056 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: resources that you used for your book besides like just 1057 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: your experience that you leaned on. Um So, I mean, well, 1058 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 1: I have been in the space for like a really 1059 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 1: long time. Library that I also I was working with 1060 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: the Chair of Sex and Relationship Therapy at u c 1061 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: l A for like a number of years. Um. Yeah, 1062 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: I work with like a lot of a lot of 1063 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: professionals and do a lot of really like contemporary research, 1064 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,760 Speaker 1: but also I think the history is important. Like knowing 1065 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: about the the white supremacist, patriarchal history of like you know, 1066 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: sex and of the medical system is really important because 1067 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: it shows us why we get to a place today 1068 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: when the rate for fibroids for black women, for example, 1069 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: is so high because they're ignoring you, I mean, outside 1070 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: of that, they just also came out with a study 1071 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: that hair straightening products like the relaxers and the perms 1072 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: that are used a lot on black women with four 1073 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: sea hair to make it straight, actually is causing as 1074 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: well higher risks of uterine cancer and breast cancer for 1075 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: black women as well. So, like there's just a lot 1076 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: of things that are now coming to where we've even 1077 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: been forced to look like the European standard of beauty 1078 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot for black women and even how we show up. 1079 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: They just passed what the Crown Act here in New 1080 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: York for a couple of years ago, and so now 1081 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: even the products that we were using just to appear 1082 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: aesthetically beautiful to society are also leading to a lot 1083 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: of these arm Oh I mean I've been you know, 1084 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of reasons don't do that. 1085 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: He is talking to me about hair. Unfortunately, I have 1086 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: Dammy's white ass hair, so I never had to have 1087 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: relax her. Not unfortunately, bitch, I'll be mad. It's it's thin. 1088 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: That's why I'm a ball headed bitch. Now you know 1089 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you and I'm like, like a 1090 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of people are so lucky to have grown up 1091 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: like gen Z and the younger generation of kids because 1092 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: their moms are not putting it in their hair, right, 1093 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't have a friend I know 1094 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: that's putting anything in their kids here, Whereas like my mom, 1095 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: and it's not her fault, she's just like, all right, 1096 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: you want me to put you in a pony tip, 1097 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: Like we're gonna use this pack o relaxer, and like 1098 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: it takes you on a really shitty hair journey and 1099 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: it's honestly just we have to unlearn this ship. But anyway, 1100 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: besides here, the last thing I want to talk about 1101 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: this transcendent sex because the day I told you I 1102 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: was crying over love his lines, this day that guy 1103 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,479 Speaker 1: crying over love his blood TV, I was. I don't 1104 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: understand that. I thought it was like a reality when 1105 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: people are like falling in love us the notebook, Maybe 1106 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: I would. I don't know how I cried. Everybody said 1107 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: this to me, did you said, is it sad? I 1108 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: mean any year ago? I mean I've cried on the 1109 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: first forty eight before. It's really it's really sad anyway. 1110 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: One of the guys in the Pods and If No 1111 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: One's Heart of Love is blind. Basically, it's an experiment 1112 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: where two people meet and talk and they've never seen 1113 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: each other physically and they fall in love. This guy 1114 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: is talking about how he had transcendent sex. I'm like, 1115 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: is there from Liz's book and the last time? Can 1116 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: you explain transcendent sex? Thats so, like I said, like 1117 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: breathwork can make you high, right, but sex can too. 1118 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: You have an altered state of consciousness, like before you 1119 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: have sex, and after you have sex feel like a 1120 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: really intense orgasm. You're not you don't feel exactly the 1121 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: same in that moment. You're sort of like almost like 1122 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: out of body. But transcendent sex is this idea that 1123 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: if you really the premise of the whole book is 1124 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: linking your sexuality and your spirituality. So if you can 1125 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: begin to like reframe things that way, then I feel 1126 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: like you can. It is possible to experience really heightened 1127 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: states of bliss and ecstasy with sex. So that is 1128 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: what transcendent sexes in a way. So it's reaching out 1129 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: without the shrooms, so the galaxy lights. I'll reach it 1130 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: just with the galaxy lights sometimes too, what I do 1131 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: you know it both interviewed somebody that told us he 1132 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: meditates to an Egyptian drum circle before he sucks, and 1133 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of sitting there like laughing, but at 1134 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, well, you know what, the 1135 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: sex you have probably is better than mine because if 1136 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: you're really taking all that time to prep for sex 1137 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and with the person, that's next level ship. Well, my 1138 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: last my ex boyfriend, I he wasn't into Cundalini or 1139 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: yourge body or any of that ship, but I got 1140 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: him to do Kundalinio Go with Me, which is again 1141 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: about breath work and muscle connect for like thirty minutes. 1142 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 1: She said two hours were shorter. They have shorter sessions. 1143 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: She put definitely took them to an advanced class, but 1144 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: she couldn't handle it. Well, you know when you're like, no, 1145 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: let me sign it, She's like, I got it. I 1146 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: couldn't see ship before we got there. I was like, also, 1147 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: I might have been ninety minutes, but it wasn't two hours. 1148 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 1: She's exaggerating. It makes the story better. It was interesting 1149 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: because I'm laughing about it. But also when you start 1150 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: taking it serious, it does work. It does work. So 1151 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: we were having we were doing this like breath work 1152 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: and this Kundalini together every morning for like a week straight, 1153 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: and we had I had cervical orgasm so deep. I 1154 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: fucking blacked out because the sex. We were so connected. 1155 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna growing up in a hospital and be like, 1156 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: what happened? Move me back? If i I'm death by orgasma. 1157 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Well you know that the French word for orgasm la 1158 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: petite morta little death, you know. So it's that idea 1159 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 1: that like what do I know what I mean? Yeah, 1160 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 1: she's she's been to friends. Everyone watching this show knows 1161 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: that she has been too FROs. You know what you'd 1162 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 1: like to join at some point in time, but if 1163 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: you did live, you'll get it. I walk the streets. 1164 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: It's like the snails. I love it. Every time I 1165 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: go to Soho, I go to a little spot. We 1166 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: went too far to about love it. Give it as 1167 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: car guy, please, where is my you know, all my 1168 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: French friends, Like when I'm eating s cargo, They're like, 1169 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: we see, like you can't eat every meal, like it's 1170 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: not even meant it actually snails snaps is feeling and 1171 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: crew like I love like some sales that they're like 1172 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: soaked in butter and garlet makes so good and like 1173 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: a little bit it's so small and then you're taking 1174 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: the bread and you're stopping up. It's a thing. Anyway, 1175 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: we're about t about this sex that I was just 1176 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 1: gonna say, tell people where to find you, but yeah, please, 1177 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 1: yeah you can find us. We are a podcast The 1178 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Sex Said that I host. You can find us on 1179 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: the internet at the Sex Said. We have tons of 1180 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: resources a sex Pedia, which is like a living Wikipedia 1181 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: of sex terms, and you can find us on Instagram 1182 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: at the sex Aid and me at Goldilocks g How 1183 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: often real quick do you update as well a sex 1184 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 1: pedia because there's always all words at other time and 1185 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: I love throwing in things like strobe light honey, like 1186 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I love some strobe honey. You guys are obviously not 1187 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 1: familiar with nineties hip hop. Girl, Where were you need 1188 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: listen to like old hip hop, I felt like a 1189 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: song name. No, it's like a colloquialism. It's like a 1190 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: slang term that's called some white ship, some white word. Wait, 1191 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: what strong it's a library word. Lots of songs. Strobe 1192 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: light honey. You need to ask him here about what 1193 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: a strobe light. Now, let me tell you. Everybody wants 1194 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: to joke about how I hang with a legend and 1195 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: don't know that his songs. I'm gonna tell you right now. Yeah, 1196 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: but he will school you on nineties hip hop. That's 1197 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: my point. Every time the strobe light honey is a 1198 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 1: honey that looks hot under the strobe lights, but not 1199 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: so good when you get her own from the club. 1200 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: That's a sub It's just an updated term. Yeah, we 1201 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: had Tip Drew about it about it early two thousands. 1202 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 1: That turned into two We were two thousands because face you. 1203 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: But if you listen to like Trium called Quest or 1204 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: like day Law, don't okay, Well you know I streaming, 1205 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: you can't stream them on Spotify. You're a hot bitch, 1206 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: shank you. Yeah, you look you look good under like 1207 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: full Studio is hot bitch in there? It's not should 1208 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: be but I didn't include white ass pussy whop in that. 1209 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: That just footnoted because you know, Middle America might be 1210 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: not be familiar with the way the way the politicians 1211 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: put it on Fox News and CNN, and we're upset 1212 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Middle America know what I feel like you think people know. 1213 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: But shout out to Hannah Burner. We've had her on 1214 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the show. She has a video with her brother, who 1215 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: I think she said, lives in Idaho or something, and 1216 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: she starts showing him influences. One black every it was 1217 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: Hailey Biever, Bella, Bella hadid um all in its also 1218 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 1: a million dollar Models Kylie Jenner. He couldn't name anyone. No, 1219 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: people just have their own frame of reference. We were 1220 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: out to dinner the other night with someone and we 1221 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: were talking about charlet the main Che No Charletagne, Charlotagne. 1222 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: She didn't know who he was and she and I 1223 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 1: just in Unison was like, you don't. We couldn't believe. 1224 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, this person that we were 1225 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: out with is very famous, very successful person. Shocked bro Yeah, 1226 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: like I at one point I thought it was a 1227 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: joke and then Liz was like, let me give her 1228 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: some I was like you know, listen, She's like what, No, 1229 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: I just think people have like their everybody has like 1230 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: a different frame of reference. That's the same way. Like 1231 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,919 Speaker 1: for me, I don't know these tiktoker's. My home girls 1232 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: will hit me up about like certain rappers baby Mama's 1233 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: who I don't know who. I'm also not in the 1234 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: breakfast club. I don't think we can compare to that 1235 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: because it's it's like how many years fifteen now, Like, 1236 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: come on, bro, there's a a lot he's mogul, but 1237 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people like on barstool, like or 1238 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: even podcasters. When I'm looking at like the top fifty, 1239 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: there's so many people that garner millions of millions of 1240 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: you people the bed about like a lot of white podcasts. 1241 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: But I told you, dear media has been coming to 1242 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: my studio and Andrew Charlton thinking Fantino, you know that 1243 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: is I'm still freaking about the story about the one 1244 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: white I don't want to say her name. Somebody asked 1245 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: me like he was fetched me some water. Was was 1246 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: she from Europe or something like does she have an 1247 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 1: accent them? She really said it like some water. Yeah, 1248 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: But like I've had one of the engineers, like, oh, 1249 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: this is eazy, but it is what I want to 1250 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: I was saying, hey, what's catching me some water? Maybe 1251 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: she was trying to make fetch a word. Maybe she 1252 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: had just you know what I mean, you just watch me. 1253 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: She just watched me and girl, maybe she was trying 1254 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: to make fetch it. You know, I don't remember how 1255 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: I remember telling her I don't really fetch around here. 1256 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: But uh, but like no, I um there the podcast 1257 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,639 Speaker 1: Tiger Bellue of Bobby Lee, Andrew Santina Whiskey Ginger. These 1258 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: are huge podcasts that like I've never heard of, and 1259 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: I do think we get in our own box and 1260 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people that don't know 1261 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 1: who we are, absolutely, but we're big in our in 1262 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: our own sphere, and like it's that kind of ship. 1263 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: But I do my best to try to like figure 1264 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 1: out across the board who the people are. Ye. But 1265 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 1: sometimes like you have to break down language for people 1266 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: or you have to like explain things more. That's why 1267 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: in the book there's all these footnotes. No. I had 1268 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,799 Speaker 1: to argue with my publisher that lost in the sauce 1269 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: is like a real term that people use. They're like 1270 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: that's isn't the thing. I was like, yes, it is 1271 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that phrase me too, especially on development calls. I'm like, Okay, 1272 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: everybody's get a little lost in the sauce here. But 1273 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with a self help publisher who publishes like 1274 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 1: whim Hoff and Burnet Brown and then they don't people 1275 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: don't know either. Maybe it listen horrible and she's huge. 1276 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: She she's amazing, and she talks a lot about vulnerability. 1277 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,560 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is people who are in the 1278 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: self help space, they may not be so familiar with 1279 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: hip hop, some of them. As it turns out, because 1280 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 1: I had a lot of hip hop references in this 1281 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 1: book that the copy editor was like, I don't understand girl. 1282 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: I hope you send them the Google reference. Here you go, 1283 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 1: don't ask me again. We're keeping it in net. Whenever 1284 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: someone tells me they don't understand something, I'm saying, I'm 1285 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: an email. I just always read it. I'm like, she 1286 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: is calling me be a word right here. This is it. 1287 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: This is Liz. Please also let us know where everyone 1288 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,680 Speaker 1: can purchase your book before we get out of here. 1289 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: They can buy the book anywhere you buy books. No, 1290 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I feel like most people buy 1291 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: books on the internet now, although it's really good to 1292 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 1: support your local bookseller. But there you know, but yeah, Amazon, Audible, 1293 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 1: uh my publisher sounds true. Our site the sex ad 1294 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: I love I love it, I love it well five 1295 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: years later, thank you for coming back. This was so 1296 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: much funny. Guys, we hope that you enjoyed this episode 1297 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 1: as well. Make sure to support us and to get 1298 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: bonus content, you head on over to Patreon. That is 1299 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: patreon dot com backslash Horrid Episodes the hundreds literal Little 1300 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 1: hundreds plus bts um and if you are one of 1301 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: our top tier patrons, once a month we do a 1302 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 1: town hall where you get to join us on zoom 1303 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: and be a part of an episode. So again, make 1304 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,719 Speaker 1: sure you join us at patreon dot com back Slash 1305 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 1: horbor Decisions to check out what that sounds like. We're 1306 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: leaving you with a five minute bonus clip after this 1307 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: and this has been yet another episode of horrible Decisions pay. 1308 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how we used to think going out 1309 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: of the country for stuff meant it was bad and 1310 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: now it is act in I got life bo and 1311 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 1: dr people. I mean, people think going out of the 1312 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: country for surgeries isn't bad, but it's literally like some 1313 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: of I don't like anyone I know that's even rich. 1314 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: Rich goes to Columbia for their d Like. I used 1315 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: to think it was the cheap way out, but it's 1316 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: literally definitely cheaper. I was not the cheap though, Bro, 1317 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: they're more skilled. Well, no, they're definitely skilled. I mean 1318 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,600 Speaker 1: it depends on who you go to because there are 1319 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: people getting bad teeth done overseas. I was gonna go 1320 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: to her doctor, but I decided that I did not 1321 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 1: want my teeth fully shaven. Um. I'm really against like 1322 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 1: having little tiny teeth. So I found a doctor who 1323 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: does not shave down your teeth um drastically. He also 1324 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 1: doesn't do chicklets. Um. It's the same time frame, so 1325 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited I may share that journey with you all 1326 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 1: when I go, so that you have can see the 1327 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: before and after and everything. But that's kind of my 1328 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: birthday to myself. Last year, I got the rolex that 1329 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 1: was my birthday gift. This year it'll be teeth um. 1330 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 1: But I just realized to the stress that comes with planning, 1331 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and I just I don't even want my friends to stress. 1332 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to stress even well yeah, and then like, uh, 1333 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: I just went to Crystal its birthday and it was amazing, 1334 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,679 Speaker 1: got to see Doug. Everybody was Crystal, so I thought, 1335 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 1: I thought, you mean your Crystal was forty Oh no, 1336 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Crystal from the read like not Crystal, but even like 1337 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: just knowing how many people travel in town and setting 1338 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: it up because it was the Sante's and it was 1339 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: just like, oh no, I don't want a birthday party. 1340 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: I'm good, Like just work, I'm good. I'm it's work, 1341 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: it's coordinating. I just I'm good. One of my friends 1342 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: did a shout out to Miko. He's actually a talent 1343 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: coordinator for FUSE. He set up like and I missed 1344 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 1: it because I was so sick last week after I 1345 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 1: got back. But he was basically like, did a crazy 1346 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 1: rich Asian he's Asian by the way, or crazy rich 1347 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,719 Speaker 1: Asians theme party, got a sprinter and all this stuff 1348 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 1: for his friends, and he was like he told me 1349 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 1: to show up at dinner, and so when I couldn't 1350 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: make it, he was like, gillyot understand, Like this is 1351 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: like a really big party. I'm like, why didn't you 1352 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 1: tell me he was a big party He's like, I 1353 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: don't want people to feel overwhelmed. I just told everybody 1354 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: wear black and come to dinner. But like I decked 1355 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,599 Speaker 1: it out, and I was like, I spent so much 1356 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: money to have my friends enjoy themselves because I really 1357 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 1: want my birthday to just be around the people, but 1358 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: I want to be around and bro when I tell you, 1359 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 1: when I thought about that, I was like, I remember 1360 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,560 Speaker 1: paying for everybody for my thirtieth birthday and it was 1361 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 1: like a nine bill and it was Orlando, so that 1362 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 1: was kind of cheap because imagine the New York party 1363 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 1: with fifteen people. But like I actually I was mad 1364 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 1: I spent the money, but and I know people wanted 1365 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: to pay, but it kind of felt good to like 1366 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: treat my friends to like actually hosting something. Because if 1367 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: you throw a party at your house, you're buying the liquor, 1368 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,679 Speaker 1: you're supplying most of the food, you're doing all that stuff, 1369 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 1: so you kind of do spend money. But that's I 1370 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 1: think the only good thing I would say now about 1371 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 1: making some extra bread is like that feels good because 1372 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: you don't want the stress of other people feeling like 1373 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: they're stressing on yellow ship, And then what about your 1374 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 1: broke friends. I don't know if you have broke friends, 1375 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: but I got some broke friends, and I want them 1376 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: niggas to freak out. It's just a lot. It's crazy 1377 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 1: because I know I'm gonna sound like a dud because 1378 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 1: I know last week or a couple of weeks ago, 1379 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I talked about how I was shallow and had certain 1380 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: friends that I am I didn't invite out. I feel 1381 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: so blessed and I don't know if I just distanced 1382 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: myself or it was just organic. And I brag about 1383 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,000 Speaker 1: my friends so much. I have no broke friends. Like 1384 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: when I go out with my friends, bro would be fighting, 1385 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: so who's putting their card down? And that's so not 1386 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 1: like it's a great feeling to go out with people 1387 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and know that you can do what you want. I 1388 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 1: love it. But then also that's why I be trying 1389 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: to chill them going out to l A because every 1390 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 1: time I go out to l A, I'll go out 1391 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 1: with my home girls and all my home girls because 1392 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: everybody got money and they eat good. Bitch we our billy. 1393 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Katana has never been under twelve and would be like four, 1394 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,680 Speaker 1: So I just ate there. Last week it was me 1395 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,560 Speaker 1: Alex and an employee. That's what I'm saying, is the 1396 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,560 Speaker 1: scow when the skill was just nine dollars, how do 1397 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 1: we get there? I don't not in skills be twenty two. 1398 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 1: That's why I don't know what you