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Speaker 1: hip hop and politics, and I guess all the things
Speaker 1: in between, things in between, what we got in between
Speaker 1: this week? What you've been up to? What's on your mind? Oh?
Speaker 1: I had a birthday over these yea happy birthday? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, birthday weekend. What can you do? You know
Speaker 1: you have to you gotta sell her. I don't usually
Speaker 1: celebrate the birthday like all out every year. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that I guess, the older than I get,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm mad. It's really only like a
Speaker 1: celebrate it like every like three or four birthday exactly.
Speaker 1: But I mean I didn't necessarily go all out. We
Speaker 1: are still in the middle of a pandemic. But you know,
Speaker 1: just hung out with some friends, took it easy for
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. Did anyone else
Speaker 1: important to have a birthday on Monday Saturday? I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would say important, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know it could be you know certain certain
Speaker 1: you know great American figures have a birthday, possible holiday
Speaker 1: inducing then you know rioters, degenerates. Yeah, we look people
Speaker 1: who get their messages, you know, kind of manipulated and
Speaker 1: through time and used by people who weren't necessarily on
Speaker 1: their side. Anybody who the FBI urged to kill themselves
Speaker 1: have a birthday. Recently, I get this weird feeling there
Speaker 1: was a guy, some kind of man. There's a starting
Speaker 1: to sound like the longest running dad joke that has
Speaker 1: ever been. You guys all know who the man the legend?
Speaker 1: What did you do for your MLK day? I mean
Speaker 1: it is well from a mixture of just logistics, challenges
Speaker 1: of having a tiny human strapped to my soul, and
Speaker 1: as well calls from the king family themselves for no
Speaker 1: celebration until passage of voting reds Bill, I didn't really
Speaker 1: do much in terms of public appearances of any kind.
Speaker 1: I just kind of spent the day listening to some
Speaker 1: old speeches of his um and just kind of reflecting on,
Speaker 1: really reflecting on how hated he was in his day. UM,
Speaker 1: Like you know, perusing political cartoons from the king archives
Speaker 1: from the time, you know, folks. You know, like there
Speaker 1: was one where he's like officiating a mixed marriage of
Speaker 1: like a white and black character with one of them
Speaker 1: hats on their back, like the anti war movement, and
Speaker 1: the other is like civil civil rights and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, like a interracial marriage with this
Speaker 1: dirty scoundrel scalawag. Because another one where like he's sitting
Speaker 1: drinking at a bar and like this small child was
Speaker 1: grabbing his coat like come back, dad, and like, uh,
Speaker 1: the little child is like labeled as a civil rights movement,
Speaker 1: and then he's drinking out of the bottles of like
Speaker 1: anti Vietnam and like communism or something, and it's just
Speaker 1: like bra so many of the moderates, like he called it.
Speaker 1: And the thing is about listening to speeches is he
Speaker 1: calls out bipartisan function like Democrats and Republicans being shitty,
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole letter from Birmingham jail kind
Speaker 1: out the white marlerates even like the moderate as bitches
Speaker 1: out here like the fucking Chuck Schumers of the world
Speaker 1: would have reviled this man and vice versa. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody would have reviled him more than the
Speaker 1: right wingers out there, who, more than anybody, claim his
Speaker 1: message to be their own, as if what Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King was actually to like as if like the dominating
Speaker 1: you know thing about Martin Luther King was, Hey, I
Speaker 1: don't see race, you know. You know, It's like I
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that. I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about this before, but I find it hard to believe
Speaker 1: that a twenty year old Martin Luther King right now
Speaker 1: would be if you would be hearing Ben Shapiro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like name dropped their quote. It's
Speaker 1: not even hard to like learn about what he was about.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you could extrapolate whatever you want from
Speaker 1: like half listening to his speeches in the background while
Speaker 1: you worked like I was doing on Monday. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so much more than you know. The color blinds
Speaker 1: like the single word they try to draw from, like
Speaker 1: you know, I have a dream or whatever. Like literally
Speaker 1: all it takes to turn on this thing. Okay, I
Speaker 1: got this really crazy thing called YouTube. Go on there
Speaker 1: and you google. In the YouTube, I hear the kids
Speaker 1: say for his name and it will give you a
Speaker 1: bunch of speeches where you can actually hear the ship.
Speaker 1: He said, It's like so like it's not even hard.
Speaker 1: It's like zero intellectual curiosity from the like you don't
Speaker 1: even you don't even google it to see, like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think that it's like
Speaker 1: a lack of wanting to know or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I think that's the point of it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a reason why you know, the conservatives are quick to
Speaker 1: drop the I have a dream speech, you know, from
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, but then behind the scenes, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the you know, the components of these
Speaker 1: anti CRT I just lay is to make the letter
Speaker 1: from Birmingham like bann and that they can't teach that
Speaker 1: or teach any other aspect of what he said, you know,
Speaker 1: as if like all of Martin Luther King's involvement in
Speaker 1: the civil rights movement was I think, you know, judge,
Speaker 1: judge somebody by the content of their character and not
Speaker 1: by the you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure he said more and even even that, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there was like there was a context to it that
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of these right wingers are
Speaker 1: using in good faith. But I mean, you're right, Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King was a brother who was giving it to everybody,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm saying he was not having it.
Speaker 1: So definitely a lot of the moderates who who think
Speaker 1: that they're down with m okay probably wouldn't be now.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it goes without saying that
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, we're here to defend himself. Like there's
Speaker 1: no way that you know, the Laura Ingram's and Bill o'
Speaker 1: radley's of the world would think to to name drop
Speaker 1: of if he was here to get on the TV
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, don't don't don't met you by day.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I like, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: funked up that he got assassinated as ship. But what
Speaker 1: I will say is that I have also been you know,
Speaker 1: y'all on the show here we talk a lot about
Speaker 1: like liberation movement history that I staid, And so I've
Speaker 1: recently been reading Elaine Brown's autobiography. She was the only
Speaker 1: female um like chairperson of the Black Panther Party and
Speaker 1: so in studying just like learning more about her and
Speaker 1: her role in the Black Panther Party and what she
Speaker 1: did afterwards. I watched some interviews with her recently, and
Speaker 1: it's bad. She is not cool anymore. And then do
Speaker 1: you think about I mean, she's just like, well, first
Speaker 1: of all, there's no like ideological coherence to like the
Speaker 1: thing she says. Like. I saw this one interview where
Speaker 1: she was like, to fund the like no, literally, so
Speaker 1: she starts, she opens the interview say, back in the day,
Speaker 1: we used to talk about often the pigs and that
Speaker 1: was a great slogan. Let's bring that back, okay, And
Speaker 1: then literally later on was critiquing I guess the young
Speaker 1: people she was talking to, saying to fund the police
Speaker 1: has gone too far, and y'all are like, y'all need
Speaker 1: to get out and talk to more black people because
Speaker 1: black people don't really want to fund the police. So
Speaker 1: it's just like and then she gets on this rant
Speaker 1: about pronouns and it's like the language police. And so
Speaker 1: I said to say, a lot of our leaders who
Speaker 1: we still have today didn't really keep up with the
Speaker 1: radical spirit they engendered as young people, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about Aldredge clever, fucking I don't know even to a
Speaker 1: degree John Lewis with like, you know, didn't always hold
Speaker 1: it down for for quite everything, but uh so I
Speaker 1: feel like it would have been uh I don't know,
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see what it was, what
Speaker 1: it would be like if folks like mL Hey and
Speaker 1: Malcolm X were like here today, what positions they would
Speaker 1: hold today. Yeah, I mean, you're right, but I mean
Speaker 1: it's like again, I just I just know that they
Speaker 1: used to call the brother communists, you know, like even
Speaker 1: even before there was any they you know, they used
Speaker 1: to call him communists without even any understanding of whether
Speaker 1: or not he actually was a problem. That's never been true.
Speaker 1: It's never not been the case. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like again, with that said a twenty year old, a
Speaker 1: twenty year old race and socially conscious communists, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, there's no there's there's no way
Speaker 1: any of them are like or giving him any sort
Speaker 1: of props for anything anything period. Well we give you
Speaker 1: and then oh I'm sorry, sorry, you know this this
Speaker 1: year was fell on m LK Day, but my birthday,
Speaker 1: I mean, because usually it doesn't, you know, I'm about
Speaker 1: to ask, like, how does it feel every single year
Speaker 1: was like it was a there was a point and
Speaker 1: there was like a point in time I remember where
Speaker 1: like whenever I would share with people like the other
Speaker 1: famous people who have my birthday, because there's a there's
Speaker 1: a couple of other cats who do have a birthday.
Speaker 1: I think me and Michelle Obama share the same birthday.
Speaker 1: Jim Carey has the birthday. Um, I think like Kid Rock,
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali or something like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I got I sure a birthday was you know,
Speaker 1: not Kid Rock, but I sure birthday with some cool cats.
Speaker 1: There's some famous cats. And I remember for a long
Speaker 1: time there was a period whenever I would tell people that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this famous person have my birthday, I would always just
Speaker 1: include M LK in that because I thought that his
Speaker 1: birthday was on my birthday. And then I think, I
Speaker 1: don't understand that Monday was not his birthday. I kind
Speaker 1: of that I've coped. I'm gonna lie to you. So
Speaker 1: what is it? It's like, what is the like what
Speaker 1: the big third Monday in uh in January? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so it's like near his birthday, but like they keep
Speaker 1: the date the same day. Okay, yeah, alright, that makes sense. Well,
Speaker 1: ship I mean, yeah, props to him, Pat myself. Happy birthday, bitch.
Speaker 1: I've fared when I was when I was a younger man,
Speaker 1: you know, when I wasn't expecting sorry, they weren't expecting
Speaker 1: black men to live past the sex. Look at you,
Speaker 1: you're almost older than Okay was when he got domed.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, I don't even want to think about that ship.
Speaker 1: Oh God. Anyway, anyway, what are we getting into. We
Speaker 1: got a little bit everything. We're gonna talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about young Dolph uh and uh, a little bit
Speaker 1: of that um tragedy and controversy, Kanye doing Kanye Uh.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about going on Russia Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So a little bit of everything, and we will be
Speaker 1: right back with that after we take a little break.
Speaker 1: All right, So we are back. So what's the first
Speaker 1: story to um? So, I'm sure most listeners know about
Speaker 1: the death of young Dolph? Um he how long ago
Speaker 1: was this that? Actually I should have pulled up pause,
Speaker 1: maybe like a month and a half pause and pull
Speaker 1: up actual some source on this, so I don't sunk
Speaker 1: up the details. It was November seventeen, alright, Okay, So,
Speaker 1: um So, Young Dolph uh was a was the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Bass I fucking forget everything. Yeah yeah, Memphis, let me
Speaker 1: try this game. So um, as I'm sure listeners are
Speaker 1: already aware, Memphis based rapper Young Dolf was shot and
Speaker 1: killed on November seventeenth of last year. Um he you know,
Speaker 1: had peaked number thirty five on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
Speaker 1: was coming up in the game and struck down in
Speaker 1: his prime. But then last week his one of his
Speaker 1: suspected killer's who was wanted by the police, dropped a
Speaker 1: new song. On the day that he also announced that
Speaker 1: he would be turning himself into the authorities and was
Speaker 1: later arrested. So this other Memphis rapper named straight Drop,
Speaker 1: also known as twenty three year old Justin Johnson dropping
Speaker 1: a music video for his new song track Hawk, and
Speaker 1: then the next day was apprehended by US Marshalls in
Speaker 1: Indiana and charged with first degree murder. The weekend prior,
Speaker 1: Straight Drop posted a message on his Instagram story on
Speaker 1: which he said he was gonna be turning himself on
Speaker 1: in on Monday. He was innocent and he'd be back soon.
Speaker 1: But we'll see about that as he is now in
Speaker 1: UH police custody and because clearly not really been taking
Speaker 1: this situation too seriously. Too seriously well, I mean, so
Speaker 1: I'm very curious as to what your reaction. Man, I
Speaker 1: really you know what I want of those people, as
Speaker 1: you know, again, listen to the show notes that always
Speaker 1: tries to find the systemic and underlying causes of a
Speaker 1: lot of just funked up ship that happens, because I
Speaker 1: think I ultimately have to uproot that in order to
Speaker 1: change situations. Right, But I've been recently encountering a lot
Speaker 1: of examples where people just do dumb shit and like
Speaker 1: hal and I'm having to face the fact of first
Speaker 1: of all, like you can't evade discussions of public personal
Speaker 1: responsibility forever. Like this nigga decided, like you know, people
Speaker 1: was looking for him, and maybe he was like getting
Speaker 1: a little acclaimed. Those folks knew he was a suspect,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ride that to like fucking news
Speaker 1: a video like I mean, look again, you know, going
Speaker 1: off of the words of it. It's always weird with
Speaker 1: these stories because it's like, all right, so dudes being
Speaker 1: accused by the cops and I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: but I meanly allegedly shot allegedly, but again, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of this it's it's it's consistent and it
Speaker 1: makes sense. I don't know if it's a generational thing
Speaker 1: or what. I don't know. It's a social media driven
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Again, I don't know, but God didn't
Speaker 1: we want to talk about not having sources. I forget
Speaker 1: the name of the rapper, but just a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, another you know, similar situation with a young
Speaker 1: New York rapper who they've got him on camera, you know,
Speaker 1: or allegedly I'll say, on camera it definitely looks like him,
Speaker 1: but committing a murder and then later on the same day,
Speaker 1: like flexing on Instagram in the same design, in the
Speaker 1: same designer gear that he just committed a murder that
Speaker 1: was in broad daylight in the middle of the street,
Speaker 1: that like, you know, and it's almost as if there's
Speaker 1: like no like understanding that it's like, yo, I'm on
Speaker 1: camera and yeah, I mean I recently, I think I
Speaker 1: mentioned in a recent episode that I went and spoke
Speaker 1: at a bond hearing for a local rapper and friend,
Speaker 1: like loose friend that we've been was charged with the
Speaker 1: attempted murder and spoke on like the stuff he's done
Speaker 1: the community, for the kids, And then the prosecution in
Speaker 1: the cross examination purely focused on the fact that after
Speaker 1: the shooting happened, like the next day, this cat dropped
Speaker 1: a music video called who Shot at Me? Where he's
Speaker 1: talking about I'm gonna find you and feel you and
Speaker 1: ship and like flashing guns in the video. And so
Speaker 1: was his bond hearing of like what should we at
Speaker 1: this guy back on the streets, And they were grilling
Speaker 1: me on like did you see this music video? Did
Speaker 1: you see him with like the gun? And the music
Speaker 1: video he said, did you hear the part where he
Speaker 1: says he's gonna go shoot shoot these people? And I
Speaker 1: had to be like yeah, but like but ultimately like
Speaker 1: it doesn't I mean, I felt like it doesn't discredit
Speaker 1: what I have seen him do in the community. Also
Speaker 1: knowing that a lot of these people, like I talked
Speaker 1: to him all earlier today he was like, yo, if
Speaker 1: don cheatle like like directed a film that's all about
Speaker 1: this murder, this mass murder, and he's in the film
Speaker 1: murdering people. Can you put him on And then later
Speaker 1: he murdered someone. Can you put him on the stand
Speaker 1: and say that, like oh you had the murder movie
Speaker 1: like that, Like, yo, you definitely did the murder Like no,
Speaker 1: it's art And that was his argument, like yo, like
Speaker 1: I had to like show up and look tough because
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna people fun with me, etcetera. Like and
Speaker 1: that kind of makes sense. But I think to a
Speaker 1: different level, I want to agree with you though, it's
Speaker 1: like there is a certain sense of like, don't do
Speaker 1: that what you do? Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's you know, there's I guess at some points
Speaker 1: that can kind of be a fine line between um,
Speaker 1: you know, we always want to look at the macro
Speaker 1: reasons for why things happen and for why people do
Speaker 1: the things that they do so well, you know, we
Speaker 1: want to like analyze the structures and stuff and understand
Speaker 1: that ship doesn't just like boil down as simple to
Speaker 1: pull your bootstraps up. And you know what I mean
Speaker 1: personal responsibility not like not everything fits into that box,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that there there's that
Speaker 1: on one hand, and then there's the also you know,
Speaker 1: like man on like a common sense aspect. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's right, and there's rob you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't I don't think that that there
Speaker 1: has to be like necessarily like a conflict in understanding
Speaker 1: one thing and like or like performing performing one of
Speaker 1: those like ways of a understanding the world and the
Speaker 1: other you know, I think that you can still like
Speaker 1: look at the bigger picture as to why people do
Speaker 1: the things that they do, and why people feel that
Speaker 1: they're in the situations they're in and things like that,
Speaker 1: and then also recognize that people make choices. Yeah, people,
Speaker 1: And for me, it's really been casting me to reflect.
Speaker 1: A third thing that really got me thinking about this
Speaker 1: lately is that it's snowed here on Sunday. This snow
Speaker 1: hasn't been so it's down here on Sunday. Really really
Speaker 1: cuteby was posted and they agnore me picks with their
Speaker 1: dirty snow men and they're cute toddlers like snow Nancy um.
Speaker 1: And so I worked with some like local like homeless
Speaker 1: advocates to like get some people some hotel rooms that
Speaker 1: were like sleeping outside, and that was great. Got a
Speaker 1: lot of people have a cold, great, So we were
Speaker 1: looking at extending their stays for like like past when
Speaker 1: the cold, you know, the past when the snow belts
Speaker 1: or whatever, because we had we had the fun to
Speaker 1: do so. But some of these cats got fucking kicked
Speaker 1: out of the hotels smoking inside. So one of them
Speaker 1: brought a dog, and it was just like god, damn
Speaker 1: it fuck. But so it really it really caused me
Speaker 1: to pause and reflect on like because I often talk
Speaker 1: about like the roads to quote unquote collective liberation and
Speaker 1: how like the generations long struggle and like it's gonna
Speaker 1: outlast us. You know, it's gonna you know, the next
Speaker 1: generation is gonna go and finish the job. But like
Speaker 1: that sounds really optimistic and rosie, but like that's the
Speaker 1: case because things are gonna keep sucking up on the
Speaker 1: way they're like you can get somebody stable shelter and
Speaker 1: they could get themselves kicked out because they're smoking. Because
Speaker 1: like if you have your whole life getting shipped on
Speaker 1: and beat down, like a single day of a kind
Speaker 1: act or even a year of like support to stop
Speaker 1: sucking up, like is not even enough to help someone
Speaker 1: really really get out of it. Like you know that
Speaker 1: cat you saw in the video who like murder or
Speaker 1: the guy on camera, and then it was like wilding out,
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff led him to that point,
Speaker 1: and it would require a whole whole whole lot of
Speaker 1: ship to like transform the underlying conditions that created to
Speaker 1: put him in a spot where he thought this was
Speaker 1: a good fucking idea. Right, Like people are gonna like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting, and people
Speaker 1: are kind of keep sucking up because it's gonna take
Speaker 1: a really like if we're really serious about like fixing
Speaker 1: a lot of problems in society, like it's he gonna
Speaker 1: take a real long time because the weird dealing with real,
Speaker 1: real bad ship. That's that's true. But again I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I hate playing Devil's advocate in these situations. But again,
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody wants to be like yo, young
Speaker 1: such and such rapper grabbed the bank and then was
Speaker 1: like flexing on Instagram and didn't understand the blah blah
Speaker 1: blah or like young whatever rapper got into a fight
Speaker 1: with some cops of blah blah blah blah blah, then
Speaker 1: I mean for me personally, it's like then I could,
Speaker 1: I guess can be more comfortable looking at it in
Speaker 1: those terms. And ship like that, when we're talking about ship,
Speaker 1: like you shot somebody like a randy, you know, some
Speaker 1: rando outside of a vodega. It's like there's nothing like
Speaker 1: I don't feel that I'm like serving any community at
Speaker 1: large by like coverage someone like that, like funk that guy. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there's a level of personal responsibility to it,
Speaker 1: and so honestly unpopular take I have on these things
Speaker 1: sometimes and I talked to other activists about this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it goes back to what Frederick Douglas said about it's
Speaker 1: easier to build strong children than repair broken men, and
Speaker 1: so want to talk about like transformer society. Honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: not only talking about helping that dude that like shot
Speaker 1: somebody on camera, Like when you get to that point,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to say people are irredeemable. I
Speaker 1: stually believe that with a significant investment of resources and
Speaker 1: time to help people like that, they can get better.
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, it's so like it would be probably
Speaker 1: be a lot easier just to make sure if people
Speaker 1: don't even end up there, Like let's get the kids.
Speaker 1: I focus so much on new development. Get the kids,
Speaker 1: get them healthy and like you know, ready for adulthood
Speaker 1: and making good choices and then in like twenty years,
Speaker 1: we won't have these kind of problems. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just try to keep it consistent, you know, so for
Speaker 1: me personally, you know what I mean. So it's like
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at the news and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: crazy white boy went crazy and took his gun and
Speaker 1: shot blah blah blah blah. You can give me whatever
Speaker 1: reasons you want. I don't care, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't care why I don't care.
Speaker 1: Like there's there's nothing that anyone's gonna say that's gonna
Speaker 1: make me like, oh, you know, but I guess you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you want to so,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not gonna like hear like YO, such
Speaker 1: and such rapper, you know, like shot just or gotten
Speaker 1: to a scuffle and thought or went to a don't
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like Young Dolph got shot in
Speaker 1: the back of the doing a shop. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. By Google's acting like they were in a mob,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And like allegedly motherfucker's just
Speaker 1: dropping singles like afterwards. So it's just like that whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's a level of fuckory that I
Speaker 1: personally feel like, you know, you know, like hey man,
Speaker 1: that there's no there's no place for that. There's really
Speaker 1: nothing to cover up. What's different between like my approach
Speaker 1: and maybe a lot of other people that have that
Speaker 1: reaction because also it's like, yeah, this person needs to
Speaker 1: help account held accountable. Our system for that right now
Speaker 1: is jail. Sick you did it, and now you're going
Speaker 1: to jail. But like a sense of curiosity about how
Speaker 1: somebody got to that point, because even if it's like
Speaker 1: there's something we can do for you, we can learn
Speaker 1: from that of like how the fund do you end
Speaker 1: up at the point where you shoot somebody in the
Speaker 1: back of the doughnut shop? Yeah, And which is why
Speaker 1: I solely mean that. It's like like like I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a discussion like that. I feel like you
Speaker 1: can still look at the situation be like oh, such
Speaker 1: and such, such and such. There is a lot, like
Speaker 1: you said, intellectual curiosity. There's a lot to be gained
Speaker 1: by understanding why that person was, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean in that situation. But like that's a conversation for
Speaker 1: like outside people to have, like people who are looking
Speaker 1: at it like from an intellectual, you know, analytical standpoint
Speaker 1: and stuff. The people who are involved in the ship
Speaker 1: are gonna look at the ship like the people who
Speaker 1: are involved the ship like either you're directly involved, Hey
Speaker 1: my cousin, my my brother, my sister was killed, you know,
Speaker 1: or you know, I know the people who were the
Speaker 1: victim of that, and you're gonna react accordingly. So all
Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's like if there are people if
Speaker 1: if the d A's like, hey, such and such is
Speaker 1: accused of a crime, and then we have them on
Speaker 1: tape talking about crimes. So of course they're going to
Speaker 1: use that at that is what I'm saying. It seems
Speaker 1: like they would, whether it's fair or unfair. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think that, like the don Cheatle example is like
Speaker 1: necessarily like fair because you've got to add some caveats
Speaker 1: into it. If it's like, oh Jane made a movie
Speaker 1: that was like if I had done it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and then you and then they wanted
Speaker 1: to use that movie as evidence, I don't think I
Speaker 1: would be saying no, you can't, you can't. I want
Speaker 1: to use example. Well, two things I want to say
Speaker 1: quick first to respond to that point and then respond
Speaker 1: to earlier point. So, Luis c. K had jokes in
Speaker 1: his stand up about masturbating in front of people that
Speaker 1: didn't want to watch, and everybody laughed and once I
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable, and then they moved on, and then he
Speaker 1: actually later really did it, and so like y'all like
Speaker 1: so but that you know, but there's a disconnect and like, oh,
Speaker 1: you see something like that in a comedy special, you
Speaker 1: might think is a little weird, but you move on.
Speaker 1: You don't like go home and call the police, and like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think Louis K is like sexually harassing people, you know, like,
Speaker 1: but gets excused from it because there art is. You know,
Speaker 1: they're millionaires. And and I'm gonna keep it consistent and
Speaker 1: say that that shouldn't be the case, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, in my personal opinion, that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: the case if I don't and I don't necessarily know
Speaker 1: the full details of how it went down and shipped
Speaker 1: like that. But if if person X is a Louis c.
Speaker 1: K fan and then somebody says, oh, Luisy K did
Speaker 1: X to me, even if you're a fan, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I like Louis k and then
Speaker 1: you got him on tape talking about, oh I like
Speaker 1: to do this, I like to do this. I think
Speaker 1: it opens up you know. I mean I don't think
Speaker 1: that that that that that's like uh, you know, causing
Speaker 1: a factor or like oh that means that that person
Speaker 1: did that. But I mean, if you want to bring
Speaker 1: that into the discussion, I don't see why not, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if somebody like Louisy Kay did
Speaker 1: this to me, look at these tapes where he's talking
Speaker 1: about it, maybe that was a great example, like you know,
Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 1: it was a good example. All I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: I'm just and again I can only speak for myself.
Speaker 1: It is like I agree with you. I just try
Speaker 1: to keep that energy because like I don't like asking
Speaker 1: people to do stuff that I know I wouldn't do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I know that if
Speaker 1: I were personally involved in some of these situations, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to look at it outside of that
Speaker 1: personal you know, like like impact zone of how it
Speaker 1: affects me and ship like that. So if it's my
Speaker 1: community if it's my my family member, my friend or
Speaker 1: something like that, I'm gonna have like more of a
Speaker 1: like I'm just not gonna be as understanding of these
Speaker 1: like bigger micro macro issues and like that. So I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just more understanding when when people are The
Speaker 1: second thing I wanted to respond to is you said
Speaker 1: that that what I'm talking about is an intellectual exercise
Speaker 1: that is done by folks that aren't impacted by violence.
Speaker 1: And I want to remind you the listeners that I like,
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't mean to bring it to
Speaker 1: bring the energy down real quick, but like I like
Speaker 1: started thinking about the ship when my fucking I got
Speaker 1: murdered man, and like I was like everybody was like,
Speaker 1: oh she get the death penalty, da, And like I
Speaker 1: literally can look at my family and be like, I
Speaker 1: this mom, this dude's mom as bipolar disorders, addicted to crack.
Speaker 1: Like he grew up in the middle of nowhere, only
Speaker 1: options go to military where he learned how to fucking
Speaker 1: use a bunch of fancy guns and grenades, and ship
Speaker 1: came out and of course he fucking killed somebody. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I could like see the
Speaker 1: background of this person's life that led them to become
Speaker 1: a murderer. And so I've been saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: it is probably rare. I mean, like my opinion is
Speaker 1: very very much not of the majority or whatever, but
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people impacted by violence who
Speaker 1: who because they are they lose a loved one or
Speaker 1: you know, to incarceration or violence stuff whatever. I can
Speaker 1: see the backwards, like you know, the bread crumbs of
Speaker 1: like how it should ended up the way it was.
Speaker 1: And I definitely don't mean like it's it's only it's
Speaker 1: reserved for people who aren't impacted by violence. I just meant,
Speaker 1: like on a case to case basis, based on how
Speaker 1: it like personally affects you as all. It's all I bad,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a difficult it's a difficult conversation and it's definitely
Speaker 1: a difficult topic that everybody. Everybody's going to have a
Speaker 1: different reaction to. All I'm saying is I just I
Speaker 1: just personally I understand it. I understand why not everybody
Speaker 1: tries to have or why everybody likes I understand why
Speaker 1: not everybody can easily jump into that proper analytical phase
Speaker 1: of talking about this. People know that people, people understand,
Speaker 1: people know what they're where all the time, understand but
Speaker 1: it's just hard to like then channel into like a
Speaker 1: direction where you understand what needs to change through it. Like,
Speaker 1: so don't link all that together. But so I had
Speaker 1: a story that came up, um that I wanted to
Speaker 1: run by you. That's kind kind of related to, you know,
Speaker 1: changing systems and stuff like that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw this viral video, but the Sunrise Police Department
Speaker 1: in Florida is probing a sergeant who allegedly I mean,
Speaker 1: I gotta say allegedly, right, but I mean the sis'll
Speaker 1: tape I saw that they could do anyway they had.
Speaker 1: They had a suspect that was had a It was
Speaker 1: a you know, white officer, black male suspect was in
Speaker 1: the back seat of the patrol car handcuff. They're the
Speaker 1: this veteran officer of twenty one years, giant, big dude.
Speaker 1: He apparently came in the tape that was released. The
Speaker 1: sound and audio was was out, so you couldn't hear
Speaker 1: what was being said, but this was confirmed by the
Speaker 1: police chief later on. He came into the scene. He
Speaker 1: escalated the situation and then he pulled out his pepper
Speaker 1: spray and was getting ready to spray the handcuffs suspect
Speaker 1: in the back seat, and a newer female officer like
Speaker 1: immediately grabbed him by the belt and pulled him away
Speaker 1: from the suspect, and he immediately grabbed her by the
Speaker 1: neck and slammed her and gets the car in front
Speaker 1: of all of her colleague. Um, he's been he's been
Speaker 1: placed on i think nonpaid administrative leave and and in this,
Speaker 1: in this regards to, you know, the props of the chief,
Speaker 1: the chief of that particular precinct has come out and
Speaker 1: it has been like, yo, she did the right thing.
Speaker 1: This is a disgusting So I don't you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're but it's really it's really blatant and
Speaker 1: really obvious. I mean, he he grabbed like his first
Speaker 1: instinct is to grab her by her throat, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And he's like a giant dude and
Speaker 1: she's like a regular sized woman. And it's just like
Speaker 1: it looked like he's kind of used to grabbing women
Speaker 1: by the people. And I always trying to tell me
Speaker 1: when like I'm on my ship, you know, I'm on
Speaker 1: one about shit. Like, oh well, people always use these
Speaker 1: like stories from other places to like say we need
Speaker 1: to make change here. We don't really have these problems here.
Speaker 1: But like, first of all, these always different police departments
Speaker 1: get the same kind of go to the same kinds
Speaker 1: of conferences, get the same kinds of training. There we
Speaker 1: have we have, you know, the police, the police chief
Speaker 1: of one city will go to another city, or or
Speaker 1: a police officer get fired from one city and got
Speaker 1: another city. A couple of years ago, we had this
Speaker 1: dude that like ran like a suspect over with his car,
Speaker 1: didn't even know if it was the right dude, and
Speaker 1: like got fired and just went to the next county
Speaker 1: over and he um and and they could fucking suit
Speaker 1: the county for wrongful dismissal and defamation for saying that
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have hit the guy and got like like
Speaker 1: half a million dollars. But anyway, that's beside the point,
Speaker 1: although I do want to use that to explain that
Speaker 1: um the Athens Clark County police chief announced today that
Speaker 1: he is leaving and explains that I have no comment
Speaker 1: on the matter because I you know, how like okay,
Speaker 1: you know, how like you can't give a negative reference
Speaker 1: for an employee, like it's it's illegal. A lot of
Speaker 1: places like you either like just don't do it, or
Speaker 1: you have to say something positive or it's like defamation
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so you can't. You your old boss
Speaker 1: can would be like so I'm just gonna say that
Speaker 1: and leave it at that. But anyway, so yeah, so
Speaker 1: you get like police officers that go to different precincts,
Speaker 1: go to different places. You get this these national trainings
Speaker 1: that all of them go to and come back to you.
Speaker 1: So it's like a like a national only systemic thing
Speaker 1: as well as the kind of people that want to
Speaker 1: get into law enforcement. And so that ship is wild.
Speaker 1: That ship, that ship is just wild. I mean, that's crazy. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean we we were just talking about personal responsibility
Speaker 1: and people inexplicably doing things on camera and on social
Speaker 1: media that are like inexplicable. But I don't know, it
Speaker 1: must be you know, maybe maybe somebody way smarter than
Speaker 1: me is most likely analyzing this ship. But there's gotta
Speaker 1: be some sort of terminology for the phenomenon and still
Speaker 1: doing it. Anyway, First of all, too many fucking cops
Speaker 1: do that ship? Too many teenagers do that ship. Let's
Speaker 1: keep it real. Too many girlfriends just going to not
Speaker 1: not paying attention to that. Um what else you got?
Speaker 1: The sucking the people who stormed the capitol? Do you
Speaker 1: know how many people storm the capital and the next
Speaker 1: day called the lost and found to say that they
Speaker 1: lost ship inside FBI? How can I help you? Oh
Speaker 1: you left your bear miss and Nancy Pelosi's checks are
Speaker 1: you real quick? And they put you on hold and
Speaker 1: it's like knock, knock, knock, it's a swat team. It's
Speaker 1: thrown smoked maid in the house. And people are on
Speaker 1: live streams like in the middle of riding like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: I just got in a fight with some cops. That
Speaker 1: ship was dope, son, Yeah, man, we bear mass this
Speaker 1: one cop. He's on the ground. He was bleeding as
Speaker 1: this is. That's and then like interested, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: how did you guys catch me? Like I will also
Speaker 1: say that pretends to the earlier debate, Um, they didn't
Speaker 1: touch fun. A lot of folks that do wild shit
Speaker 1: like this, not all of them, but particularly time where
Speaker 1: it's like a shot yesterday ha ha. Like even if
Speaker 1: they don't express it. They express a lot of bracketdocio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the ship. There is a mindset of disposability that
Speaker 1: people have where it's like my life doesn't mean ship anyway. No,
Speaker 1: Like everybody, fucking like the whole system thinks I'm worthless,
Speaker 1: So why don't not fucking shoot a guy on a camera?
Speaker 1: Like everybody goes to jail, Like everyone thinks I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do something like that anyway. Fuck it. So back to
Speaker 1: that a little bit, not to excuse that not you know,
Speaker 1: it's personal, personal choice ultimately, but like another part of
Speaker 1: like understanding how we fucking get here in the first place,
Speaker 1: where you're shooting a cat in the back of the
Speaker 1: head and don't not shut well, I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you think of that? What do you what do you
Speaker 1: think about the notion of It's like, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: personal choice. It's just I don't think I think that
Speaker 1: we can have an opinion of whether or not it's
Speaker 1: a good choice or not, you know, I mean, or
Speaker 1: another or whether or another right choice. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: not that you're saying that we shouldn't, but you know
Speaker 1: that's why it's like I always I feel, I feel,
Speaker 1: I always feel like a sense of conflict on on
Speaker 1: these sort of topics just because you know, my father
Speaker 1: worked for the State Department when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I've yeah, I've got family and law enforcement and ship
Speaker 1: like that, so I know i'd always you don't want
Speaker 1: to give full disclosure, you know, I definitely have that
Speaker 1: sort of you know, connection or indirect connection or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it to these things. So it's
Speaker 1: like just to before we move on, just to stress.
Speaker 1: I just I always just try to like put myself
Speaker 1: in other people's shoes just for the merely for nothing
Speaker 1: other than just the exercise of understanding where other people
Speaker 1: are coming from, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: like I understand why some people perhaps may have like
Speaker 1: a bit more lead more right on these certain issues
Speaker 1: than perhaps I do, you know personally, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I just I just feel like like
Speaker 1: like having like having that understanding and not just necessarily
Speaker 1: assuming that it's because they're a ship, live or right
Speaker 1: wing or you know what I mean, is helpful in
Speaker 1: the discose. Yeah, yeah, I would love to understand the
Speaker 1: underlying conditions that brought this cop in Sunrise, Florida to
Speaker 1: just like be so aggro that he not only bear
Speaker 1: Mason's handcuff suspect, but choked his visit fellow officer. Officer, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: how do you guess at that point, like it really
Speaker 1: looked like some you know, roid rage because he's like
Speaker 1: a jack up juice stuff. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It looked like some roid rage type of like unstable
Speaker 1: ship for a twenty one year vet. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, public defenders, any case that this dude
Speaker 1: has worked, I need to read this. I'll need to
Speaker 1: re examine that ship, bro, Like tomorrow, it's gotta another
Speaker 1: story I think we got. I was gonna think you
Speaker 1: think we should just do one more? Yeah we can, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do this. So back to wondering how the
Speaker 1: fund did people get in the situation that they're in
Speaker 1: perpetual ship get in her Kanye West is going to
Speaker 1: Russia to me with Vladimir Putin so UM. On Tuesday,
Speaker 1: January Levin, Billboard reported that Yea I planned on going
Speaker 1: to Moscow to meet with the Russian President and hold
Speaker 1: multiple Sunday services UM as its first ever shows in
Speaker 1: the country of Russia. As ultimate purpose for the trip,
Speaker 1: Um was to begin expanding his businesses overseas, and an
Speaker 1: advisor to Kanye told Billboard that um Russia is going
Speaker 1: to be a second home for Kanye, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: the libs are absolutely losing their mind about, or they
Speaker 1: or I could see if the white people, if the
Speaker 1: white ones even knew this was happening, they probably don't
Speaker 1: follow music news. If they found out, they probably completely
Speaker 1: lose their minds because of Russia Gate, Wold Trump Russia ship,
Speaker 1: Uh that people still, you know, I think frequently, and
Speaker 1: I believe I've discussed this on the show before, whether
Speaker 1: the Russia Gate hysteria opened the door for challenging election
Speaker 1: integrity and ultimately what happened on January six, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate, I can get another topic that's
Speaker 1: going to force me to be so one on the
Speaker 1: side of the lives. But I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: necessarily I would not classify myself as being in on
Speaker 1: Russia Gate hysteria or whatever whatever, but I tend to be.
Speaker 1: You know, if it looks like a duck and it
Speaker 1: quacks like a duck, it's a damn duck, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So like, if if motherfucker's is like
Speaker 1: having clandestine meetings and hotels and this and that, and
Speaker 1: wild motherfucker's is going to jail for lying to this
Speaker 1: and lying to that. And then every time they're accused,
Speaker 1: their number one thing is you don't have the evidence
Speaker 1: to prove that, as opposed to saying no, I didn't
Speaker 1: do it. I'm just not inclined to think that they're innocent,
Speaker 1: you know. So that that's just that's just the basis
Speaker 1: of how I going Now, however else this wants to manifest.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't necessarily think having that view means
Speaker 1: that you want world War three with Russia tomorrow, you know.
Speaker 1: But with the Kanye situation, it's just interesting because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's like some pretty fucked up homophobic
Speaker 1: laws that are like in the book in Russia. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the U. S. Department like they currently lest Russia with
Speaker 1: like a level four do not travel advisory given terrorism,
Speaker 1: harassment by Russian government security officials, arbitrary enforcement of local
Speaker 1: laws you and Russia's on the brink of invading or like.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just yeah, it's just like I I um, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole that's weird. It's again it's it's Kanye, So
Speaker 1: you know, weird goes in the book with it. But
Speaker 1: it's just another addition onto this like right wing drift
Speaker 1: in this like plausibly deniable right wing fascist ship culturally
Speaker 1: that's going on in this country that I think, you know,
Speaker 1: wittingly or unwittingly, sir, celebrity figures are playing into. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what this is because because to me,
Speaker 1: it's like that's always you know, for the last like
Speaker 1: five six, seven years, that's always been like my suspicion
Speaker 1: of what the Republican infatuation is with Russia. Now, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, which is why I just I
Speaker 1: don't care what lives are saying. Yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at what Republicans are doing and what they're
Speaker 1: saying themselves, you know what I mean. So if if
Speaker 1: when I if like when I was in like early college,
Speaker 1: if Republicans were like itching at the bit, like we
Speaker 1: hate Russia, we hate it, we hate it, we hate it,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: we love Russia and Russia is awesome. No, it's great,
Speaker 1: we love it. Yeah, No, Putin would be a better
Speaker 1: president than an American president blah blah, we love it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just not inclined to look at
Speaker 1: that and be like mm hmm, I can't stand Hill
Speaker 1: reclap like no, no, I mean, like I'm I just
Speaker 1: feel like there has to be a line somewhere because
Speaker 1: like I mean, I've seen this one left. We talk
Speaker 1: about this in the to Turn this election. You see
Speaker 1: this to this day with like Bernie Sanders supporters said
Speaker 1: the election was stolen, like when you let that, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes when narratives like that are allowed
Speaker 1: to flourish, like they are taken up and when even
Speaker 1: when they are legitimate and but people kind of run
Speaker 1: away with them, like it does open up like this
Speaker 1: grounds on which you can contest any kind of flaw,
Speaker 1: you know, like actually any sort of working of democracy
Speaker 1: as such that you don't whose outcomes you don't like.
Speaker 1: But do you think that this is not similar to
Speaker 1: the like argument about the you know, the filibuster thinks
Speaker 1: exactly the Republicans saying the Democrats loved the filibuster, butant
Speaker 1: we were in power now they hate it, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well fuck you got. I don't know, they like if
Speaker 1: you don't have some consistency, they'll call you out. But
Speaker 1: I think again, it's just a matter of like whether
Speaker 1: you think Republicans are operating in good faith or not. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and like, so for somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't believe so, for somebody who genuinely believes that, hey,
Speaker 1: Republicans would not be talking about the election is stolen.
Speaker 1: The election is stolen if people hadn't brought up Russia
Speaker 1: Gate and that hadn't been a big story. If somebody
Speaker 1: believes that, then I understand totally why you know, you
Speaker 1: would look at like Russia Gate with this like skeptical
Speaker 1: like sort of thing. I don't believe that. I think
Speaker 1: the Republicans are gonna like link between Russia Gate and
Speaker 1: January six. I'm saying, like over and over again, there's
Speaker 1: there are these competing tensions between factions where like when
Speaker 1: you lose, you say they cheated, Like no one ever
Speaker 1: fucking just loses because they sucked. They just lose because
Speaker 1: the other people cheated. Um, and so like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, also coming from someone that thinks that the
Speaker 1: Left needs to play dirtier because other motherfucker's area are
Speaker 1: willing to cheat. Yeah, it's like like the Republicans are
Speaker 1: just they are willing to do what they feel they
Speaker 1: need to do to attain power, and they are not
Speaker 1: concerned with what Democrats are going to do or not do.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I here's here's what I'm saying. If the Democrats don't
Speaker 1: break the filibuster, the Republicans will the same way. We're
Speaker 1: like pussyfooting about with the Supreme Court. No, we don't
Speaker 1: know if we want to do the Supreme Court. No,
Speaker 1: maybe I should. We shouldn't push this issue for this
Speaker 1: person to retire so that their slack can get filled,
Speaker 1: because oh, we don't know. That's all assuming that the
Speaker 1: Republicans aren't gonna be craving when they get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to you know. So it's all projections. So if if
Speaker 1: we if we funk around, like not believing them when
Speaker 1: they say the ship that they're gonna that they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: and the ship that they're into, like the election, you know,
Speaker 1: election to disputes. I think that that was coming regardless
Speaker 1: because they were disputing the election in before any like
Speaker 1: before anybody was really talking about Russia before the elect
Speaker 1: before election even happened, they were talking saying, oh, it's stolen,
Speaker 1: you know. So I I look at that sort of
Speaker 1: thing that was always going to be a part of
Speaker 1: their playbook, and that they don't need any excuse, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like us being like like
Speaker 1: people who are on the left being like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: the January six writers need to be held accountable. The
Speaker 1: state needs to come after the We can have whatever
Speaker 1: objections that we have with it, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that one of those objections should be. Man, you know
Speaker 1: what if we keep pushing for the state to go
Speaker 1: after the January six rioters, then the Republicans are gonna
Speaker 1: come after us the next time that we have a
Speaker 1: BLF march, like like they're gonna, you know, like the
Speaker 1: minute that they get the minute again. They had unmarked
Speaker 1: black van snatching people off the streets, but they had power.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need you even need to say
Speaker 1: more about that. There was no conservative voice, there was
Speaker 1: no speed free speech warrior, none of them had any
Speaker 1: objection to it. You didn't hear Joe rogan sation about oh,
Speaker 1: why are they snatching these protesters off the street with
Speaker 1: fucking ice agents from Texas that were in Portland for
Speaker 1: some strange reason. Why is that happening? Why Why are
Speaker 1: unidentified a jack booted thugs snatching demonstrated on the street.
Speaker 1: They didn't give a funk about that ship when it
Speaker 1: was happening, the Antifa guys, so they're they're ready there
Speaker 1: with the ships. They're ready to use the state to crush,
Speaker 1: to crush the scent, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: if if if Democrats keep going with ship, assuming whether
Speaker 1: it's Democrats or whether it's like people who are more radical,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, If you assume that the
Speaker 1: Republicans are playing the game the way that we are,
Speaker 1: I just think that's how we lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't mean. You just got me thinking
Speaker 1: about using the state to crush people. Perhaps closing, I
Speaker 1: will circle back around to this particular quote that stuck
Speaker 1: out to me from an MLK speech I listened to
Speaker 1: on Monday. It was the speech at the National Conference
Speaker 1: on New Politics in Chicago, and MLK said, I think
Speaker 1: it might be a little flight paraphrase, but more or less,
Speaker 1: um is poverty and unemployment rages in the black ghetto.
Speaker 1: The bipartisan responses, an anti riot bill instead of an
Speaker 1: anti poverty program. And it just really hit me because
Speaker 1: literally last week I was talking about the police chief
Speaker 1: quick this week, well last week it was mentioned last
Speaker 1: episode I had some choice awards for him at the
Speaker 1: meeting where I was like, I don't really want to
Speaker 1: talk to you. I don't really trust you, you know,
Speaker 1: bah bah bah, because in that meeting, you know, in
Speaker 1: response for a year, for years now, decades now, even
Speaker 1: you know, the black community has been calling for investment
Speaker 1: in our people, and you know BLM, you know, the
Speaker 1: uprising was all about that, all about that, and here
Speaker 1: we are about a year and a half later, and
Speaker 1: their responses, Well, people didn't like that we use tear
Speaker 1: gas on the protesters, so we bought a sound cannon
Speaker 1: to blow their ear drums out and give them permanent
Speaker 1: neurological damage. Um oh, and can we also give every
Speaker 1: police officer a tactical rifle? So like literally today we're
Speaker 1: still doing it. And like this is the bipartisan response.
Speaker 1: It's not just like the right wing. Note like I
Speaker 1: don't even say, like I don't even want to say
Speaker 1: like democrats like want to use the state to crush
Speaker 1: the scent, but like they certainly let it happen. Like
Speaker 1: there's Democrats sitting in this commission meeting, like tactical rifles
Speaker 1: forever bloy not blest, sound cannon blow out people's ear drums.
Speaker 1: I well, you know, okay, sure, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: why not? So yeah, I know you're oncent correct about
Speaker 1: that ship. I don't know what it's gonna take, but
Speaker 1: we gotta snap out of it somehow, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's really disappointing to hear that everything. You didn't
Speaker 1: tell that story. You told that story last week, and
Speaker 1: it was disappointing to hear because it's like the thing
Speaker 1: after all of that marching and all of that demonstrating
Speaker 1: and organizing, that a year and a half later, we're
Speaker 1: talking about tear gas and chow colds. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's that's that's the change, that's the that's
Speaker 1: the that's the that's the that's the systemic you know,
Speaker 1: issues that were like you can't not like nothing gets done.
Speaker 1: Just that's not like oh, politicians are just inspired and
Speaker 1: go fight for ship. They fight for ship. They realized
Speaker 1: they gotta do ship. They're forced to do ship by
Speaker 1: like the masses of people organized and so like a
Speaker 1: lot of people woke the funk up and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship changinging, make me like light bulbs going off everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like that's not going, that's not you can't put
Speaker 1: that cab back in the bag. And so yes, we
Speaker 1: have not seen like in a substantive way, all of
Speaker 1: that organizing and marching and getting you know, thrown to
Speaker 1: the ground and Mason shipped like bear fruit. But those people,
Speaker 1: those millions of people like dy an't go that cat
Speaker 1: ain't going back in the bag. Tell you some now,
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna get interesting. But you know, here we
Speaker 1: are today. All we can do is um, keep hope
Speaker 1: alive and spit bars. I was gonna try to make
Speaker 1: it rhyme and make a bar out of it. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, like, keep hope alive and slap it
Speaker 1: on the black hand side or something like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Let's get you some real beats, real bars,
Speaker 1: Joe Mariah said, piece and bars like go hard in
Speaker 1: the paint and my roots is far Jeff Jarrett on
Speaker 1: these rappers like a cheap guitar. I came up in
Speaker 1: the flames and I keep the scars, but don't Missy
Speaker 1: exceptly just one year old. They've been nice with the
Speaker 1: flow sest the day kissed roll Up, but it got
Speaker 1: me pissed. I watched Foxes, cannot be it. Keep m
Speaker 1: ok Coast all about your Nazi lips. They try hard,
Speaker 1: but it's nonsense. Reparations give us five stars in the
Speaker 1: comment towards me, and I'll take a step backwards because
Speaker 1: I don't buy my hate this and what the fucking
Speaker 1: hats so I asked to let past it and bet
Speaker 1: about it. I'm passive, but that don't mean that I
Speaker 1: am a cowward like Martin lu Mahatma Gandhi. I used
Speaker 1: my words to set on my comflicts rather than try
Speaker 1: to shoot you be cool Brooks around the stampasac than
Speaker 1: to rock and a rather understanding did. I never haven't
Speaker 1: tried to Yo yo, yo yo. My name is Dope
Speaker 1: Knife with Franco and we are waiting on reparations. See
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