WEBVTT - N*ggas Be Wildin 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.920 You are listening to Waiting on Reparations, a production of 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:13.560 My Heart Radio. Yo, yo yo, what's happening? I'm good? 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.360 How are you? Who are we? Are we waiting on Reparations? 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.599 Are you dope? Knife? Am I lingual? Frazio? We certainly are. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.200 This is Waiting on Reparation, the show where we talk 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.360 hip hop and politics, and I guess all the things 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.760 in between, things in between, what we got in between 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.080 this week? What you've been up to? What's on your mind? Oh? 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:39.440 I had a birthday over these yea happy birthday? Yeah, 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.879 you know, birthday weekend. What can you do? You know 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.120 you have to you gotta sell her. I don't usually 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.600 celebrate the birthday like all out every year. You know 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.480 what I'm saying that I guess, the older than I get, 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.240 I feel like I'm mad. It's really only like a 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:58.520 celebrate it like every like three or four birthday exactly. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.280 But I mean I didn't necessarily go all out. We 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.760 are still in the middle of a pandemic. But you know, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.160 just hung out with some friends, took it easy for 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.920 the first time in a long time. Did anyone else 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:16.240 important to have a birthday on Monday Saturday? I don't 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.760 know if I would say important, but I mean, you know, 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.720 like you know it could be you know certain certain 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:32.119 you know great American figures have a birthday, possible holiday 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:39.800 inducing then you know rioters, degenerates. Yeah, we look people 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.480 who get their messages, you know, kind of manipulated and 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.680 through time and used by people who weren't necessarily on 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.240 their side. Anybody who the FBI urged to kill themselves 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.000 have a birthday. Recently, I get this weird feeling there 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:03.600 was a guy, some kind of man. There's a starting 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.400 to sound like the longest running dad joke that has 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:13.800 ever been. You guys all know who the man the legend? 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.920 What did you do for your MLK day? I mean 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:22.440 it is well from a mixture of just logistics, challenges 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.480 of having a tiny human strapped to my soul, and 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.920 as well calls from the king family themselves for no 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.239 celebration until passage of voting reds Bill, I didn't really 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:39.080 do much in terms of public appearances of any kind. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.440 I just kind of spent the day listening to some 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.919 old speeches of his um and just kind of reflecting on, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.639 really reflecting on how hated he was in his day. UM, 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:55.320 Like you know, perusing political cartoons from the king archives 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.600 from the time, you know, folks. You know, like there 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.160 was one where he's like officiating a mixed marriage of 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.320 like a white and black character with one of them 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.520 hats on their back, like the anti war movement, and 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.760 the other is like civil civil rights and it's supposed 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.320 to be like, oh, like a interracial marriage with this 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:21.240 dirty scoundrel scalawag. Because another one where like he's sitting 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.799 drinking at a bar and like this small child was 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.639 grabbing his coat like come back, dad, and like, uh, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.440 the little child is like labeled as a civil rights movement, 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.440 and then he's drinking out of the bottles of like 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:38.800 anti Vietnam and like communism or something, and it's just 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.240 like bra so many of the moderates, like he called it. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.160 And the thing is about listening to speeches is he 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:52.040 calls out bipartisan function like Democrats and Republicans being shitty, 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.800 and you know, the whole letter from Birmingham jail kind 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.640 out the white marlerates even like the moderate as bitches 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.760 out here like the fucking Chuck Schumers of the world 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:07.440 would have reviled this man and vice versa. Yeah, but 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:12.320 I mean, nobody would have reviled him more than the 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.599 right wingers out there, who, more than anybody, claim his 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.920 message to be their own, as if what Martin Luther 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.600 King was actually to like as if like the dominating 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.159 you know thing about Martin Luther King was, Hey, I 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.760 don't see race, you know. You know, It's like I 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.159 find it hard to believe that. I think we've talked 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.120 about this before, but I find it hard to believe 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:38.000 that a twenty year old Martin Luther King right now 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.279 would be if you would be hearing Ben Shapiro, you 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.960 know what I'm saying, like name dropped their quote. It's 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.360 not even hard to like learn about what he was about. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.480 Like I'm sure you could extrapolate whatever you want from 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.719 like half listening to his speeches in the background while 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.480 you worked like I was doing on Monday. But like, yeah, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.640 there's so much more than you know. The color blinds 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.240 like the single word they try to draw from, like 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.479 you know, I have a dream or whatever. Like literally 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.560 all it takes to turn on this thing. Okay, I 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:14.880 got this really crazy thing called YouTube. Go on there 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:19.479 and you google. In the YouTube, I hear the kids 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.839 say for his name and it will give you a 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.560 bunch of speeches where you can actually hear the ship. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.839 He said, It's like so like it's not even hard. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:31.480 It's like zero intellectual curiosity from the like you don't 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:37.360 even you don't even google it to see, like I don't. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.360 I don't think that. I don't think that it's like 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.680 a lack of wanting to know or anything like that. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.960 I think that's the point of it. I mean, it's 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.880 a reason why you know, the conservatives are quick to 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.840 drop the I have a dream speech, you know, from 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.920 Martin Luther King, but then behind the scenes, you know, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.160 a lot of the you know, the components of these 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.800 anti CRT I just lay is to make the letter 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.880 from Birmingham like bann and that they can't teach that 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.400 or teach any other aspect of what he said, you know, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.520 as if like all of Martin Luther King's involvement in 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.840 the civil rights movement was I think, you know, judge, 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.159 judge somebody by the content of their character and not 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.560 by the you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.280 sure he said more and even even that, I'm sure 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.479 there was like there was a context to it that 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.599 I don't think a lot of these right wingers are 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.160 using in good faith. But I mean, you're right, Martin 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:36.000 Luther King was a brother who was giving it to everybody, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.520 and you know, I'm saying he was not having it. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.679 So definitely a lot of the moderates who who think 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.800 that they're down with m okay probably wouldn't be now. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.479 But you know, I think it goes without saying that 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:54.400 Martin Luther King, we're here to defend himself. Like there's 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.560 no way that you know, the Laura Ingram's and Bill o' 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.479 radley's of the world would think to to name drop 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.359 of if he was here to get on the TV 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.880 and be like, yo, don't don't don't met you by day. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.640 I'm not gonna say I like, it's you know, it's 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.960 funked up that he got assassinated as ship. But what 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.400 I will say is that I have also been you know, 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.520 y'all on the show here we talk a lot about 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.120 like liberation movement history that I staid, And so I've 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.960 recently been reading Elaine Brown's autobiography. She was the only 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:33.280 female um like chairperson of the Black Panther Party and 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.000 so in studying just like learning more about her and 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.400 her role in the Black Panther Party and what she 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:42.000 did afterwards. I watched some interviews with her recently, and 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.800 it's bad. She is not cool anymore. And then do 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.480 you think about I mean, she's just like, well, first 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.840 of all, there's no like ideological coherence to like the 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.000 thing she says. Like. I saw this one interview where 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.480 she was like, to fund the like no, literally, so 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.760 she starts, she opens the interview say, back in the day, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.600 we used to talk about often the pigs and that 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.920 was a great slogan. Let's bring that back, okay, And 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.520 then literally later on was critiquing I guess the young 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.080 people she was talking to, saying to fund the police 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:20.760 has gone too far, and y'all are like, y'all need 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.600 to get out and talk to more black people because 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.880 black people don't really want to fund the police. So 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.000 it's just like and then she gets on this rant 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.000 about pronouns and it's like the language police. And so 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.079 I said to say, a lot of our leaders who 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.840 we still have today didn't really keep up with the 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.520 radical spirit they engendered as young people, you know, talking 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.280 about Aldredge clever, fucking I don't know even to a 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:48.319 degree John Lewis with like, you know, didn't always hold 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.440 it down for for quite everything, but uh so I 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:56.280 feel like it would have been uh I don't know, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.320 it would be interesting to see what it was, what 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.760 it would be like if folks like mL Hey and 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.680 Malcolm X were like here today, what positions they would 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:09.839 hold today. Yeah, I mean, you're right, but I mean 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.640 it's like again, I just I just know that they 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.760 used to call the brother communists, you know, like even 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.040 even before there was any they you know, they used 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.560 to call him communists without even any understanding of whether 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.680 or not he actually was a problem. That's never been true. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.640 It's never not been the case. But I'm just saying, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:35.800 like again, with that said a twenty year old, a 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:43.079 twenty year old race and socially conscious communists, you know 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.839 what I'm saying, Like, there's no there's there's no way 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.840 any of them are like or giving him any sort 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.439 of props for anything anything period. Well we give you 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.920 and then oh I'm sorry, sorry, you know this this 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:03.480 year was fell on m LK Day, but my birthday, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.319 I mean, because usually it doesn't, you know, I'm about 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.640 to ask, like, how does it feel every single year 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:14.559 was like it was a there was a point and 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.360 there was like a point in time I remember where 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.480 like whenever I would share with people like the other 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.240 famous people who have my birthday, because there's a there's 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.920 a couple of other cats who do have a birthday. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.680 I think me and Michelle Obama share the same birthday. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:34.160 Jim Carey has the birthday. Um, I think like Kid Rock, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.280 Muhammad Ali or something like that, you know what I mean, 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.160 Like I got I sure a birthday was you know, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.320 not Kid Rock, but I sure birthday with some cool cats. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.000 There's some famous cats. And I remember for a long 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.000 time there was a period whenever I would tell people that, like, oh, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.480 this famous person have my birthday, I would always just 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.760 include M LK in that because I thought that his 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.480 birthday was on my birthday. And then I think, I 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.640 don't understand that Monday was not his birthday. I kind 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.600 of that I've coped. I'm gonna lie to you. So 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.480 what is it? It's like, what is the like what 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.560 the big third Monday in uh in January? Yeah, and 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.680 so it's like near his birthday, but like they keep 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:18.960 the date the same day. Okay, yeah, alright, that makes sense. Well, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:26.240 ship I mean, yeah, props to him, Pat myself. Happy birthday, bitch. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.520 I've fared when I was when I was a younger man, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.920 you know, when I wasn't expecting sorry, they weren't expecting 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.720 black men to live past the sex. Look at you, 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.000 you're almost older than Okay was when he got domed. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.840 Oh ship, I don't even want to think about that ship. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:51.880 Oh God. Anyway, anyway, what are we getting into. We 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.960 got a little bit everything. We're gonna talk a little 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.280 bit about young Dolph uh and uh, a little bit 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:05.520 of that um tragedy and controversy, Kanye doing Kanye Uh. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.760 We're gonna talk a little bit about going on Russia Ukraine. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.040 So a little bit of everything, and we will be 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.880 right back with that after we take a little break. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:26.360 All right, So we are back. So what's the first 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:32.199 story to um? So, I'm sure most listeners know about 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:38.080 the death of young Dolph? Um he how long ago 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.600 was this that? Actually I should have pulled up pause, 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.920 maybe like a month and a half pause and pull 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.080 up actual some source on this, so I don't sunk 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:50.040 up the details. It was November seventeen, alright, Okay, So, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.959 um So, Young Dolph uh was a was the Tennessee 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:00.640 Bass I fucking forget everything. Yeah yeah, Memphis, let me 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.680 try this game. So um, as I'm sure listeners are 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:09.800 already aware, Memphis based rapper Young Dolf was shot and 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:15.400 killed on November seventeenth of last year. Um he you know, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.160 had peaked number thirty five on the Billboard Hot one hundred, 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.000 was coming up in the game and struck down in 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:26.439 his prime. But then last week his one of his 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:31.280 suspected killer's who was wanted by the police, dropped a 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.680 new song. On the day that he also announced that 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.240 he would be turning himself into the authorities and was 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.720 later arrested. So this other Memphis rapper named straight Drop, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.120 also known as twenty three year old Justin Johnson dropping 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.920 a music video for his new song track Hawk, and 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.200 then the next day was apprehended by US Marshalls in 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.840 Indiana and charged with first degree murder. The weekend prior, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.320 Straight Drop posted a message on his Instagram story on 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.240 which he said he was gonna be turning himself on 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.960 in on Monday. He was innocent and he'd be back soon. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.160 But we'll see about that as he is now in 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.880 UH police custody and because clearly not really been taking 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:15.559 this situation too seriously. Too seriously well, I mean, so 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:20.000 I'm very curious as to what your reaction. Man, I 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.880 really you know what I want of those people, as 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.080 you know, again, listen to the show notes that always 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.440 tries to find the systemic and underlying causes of a 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.600 lot of just funked up ship that happens, because I 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.680 think I ultimately have to uproot that in order to 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.400 change situations. Right, But I've been recently encountering a lot 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.760 of examples where people just do dumb shit and like 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.880 hal and I'm having to face the fact of first 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.320 of all, like you can't evade discussions of public personal 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:53.120 responsibility forever. Like this nigga decided, like you know, people 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.120 was looking for him, and maybe he was like getting 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.600 a little acclaimed. Those folks knew he was a suspect, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.520 and I wanted to ride that to like fucking news 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:10.640 a video like I mean, look again, you know, going 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.520 off of the words of it. It's always weird with 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.040 these stories because it's like, all right, so dudes being 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.320 accused by the cops and I don't want to, you know, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:24.720 but I meanly allegedly shot allegedly, but again, you know, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.880 a lot of this it's it's it's consistent and it 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.640 makes sense. I don't know if it's a generational thing 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.600 or what. I don't know. It's a social media driven 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.440 sort of thing. Again, I don't know, but God didn't 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.560 we want to talk about not having sources. I forget 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.680 the name of the rapper, but just a couple of 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.960 weeks ago, another you know, similar situation with a young 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:53.840 New York rapper who they've got him on camera, you know, 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:58.480 or allegedly I'll say, on camera it definitely looks like him, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:03.000 but committing a murder and then later on the same day, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.360 like flexing on Instagram in the same design, in the 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.520 same designer gear that he just committed a murder that 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.360 was in broad daylight in the middle of the street, 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.880 that like, you know, and it's almost as if there's 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:23.120 like no like understanding that it's like, yo, I'm on 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.080 camera and yeah, I mean I recently, I think I 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.200 mentioned in a recent episode that I went and spoke 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.240 at a bond hearing for a local rapper and friend, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.720 like loose friend that we've been was charged with the 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.600 attempted murder and spoke on like the stuff he's done 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.200 the community, for the kids, And then the prosecution in 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.280 the cross examination purely focused on the fact that after 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.760 the shooting happened, like the next day, this cat dropped 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.800 a music video called who Shot at Me? Where he's 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.280 talking about I'm gonna find you and feel you and 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.000 ship and like flashing guns in the video. And so 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.160 was his bond hearing of like what should we at 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.640 this guy back on the streets, And they were grilling 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.840 me on like did you see this music video? Did 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.440 you see him with like the gun? And the music 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.639 video he said, did you hear the part where he 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.760 says he's gonna go shoot shoot these people? And I 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.560 had to be like yeah, but like but ultimately like 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.879 it doesn't I mean, I felt like it doesn't discredit 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.639 what I have seen him do in the community. Also 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.360 knowing that a lot of these people, like I talked 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.000 to him all earlier today he was like, yo, if 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:30.080 don cheatle like like directed a film that's all about 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.920 this murder, this mass murder, and he's in the film 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.640 murdering people. Can you put him on And then later 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.720 he murdered someone. Can you put him on the stand 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.240 and say that, like oh you had the murder movie 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.760 like that, Like, yo, you definitely did the murder Like no, 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.640 it's art And that was his argument, like yo, like 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.399 I had to like show up and look tough because 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.760 I wasn't gonna people fun with me, etcetera. Like and 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.720 that kind of makes sense. But I think to a 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.960 different level, I want to agree with you though, it's 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.800 like there is a certain sense of like, don't do 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:06.000 that what you do? Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.440 like it's you know, there's I guess at some points 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.239 that can kind of be a fine line between um, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.679 you know, we always want to look at the macro 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.080 reasons for why things happen and for why people do 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.720 the things that they do so well, you know, we 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.520 want to like analyze the structures and stuff and understand 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.840 that ship doesn't just like boil down as simple to 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.080 pull your bootstraps up. And you know what I mean 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.119 personal responsibility not like not everything fits into that box, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.760 you know what I'm saying. So that there there's that 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.719 on one hand, and then there's the also you know, 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.560 like man on like a common sense aspect. You know, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.160 there's there's right, and there's rob you know what I'm saying, 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.040 and like, I don't I don't think that that there 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:54.200 has to be like necessarily like a conflict in understanding 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.040 one thing and like or like performing performing one of 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:03.080 those like ways of a understanding the world and the 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.280 other you know, I think that you can still like 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.760 look at the bigger picture as to why people do 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.639 the things that they do, and why people feel that 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.919 they're in the situations they're in and things like that, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.680 and then also recognize that people make choices. Yeah, people, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.000 And for me, it's really been casting me to reflect. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.840 A third thing that really got me thinking about this 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.520 lately is that it's snowed here on Sunday. This snow 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:28.200 hasn't been so it's down here on Sunday. Really really 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.720 cuteby was posted and they agnore me picks with their 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:41.000 dirty snow men and they're cute toddlers like snow Nancy um. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.200 And so I worked with some like local like homeless 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.800 advocates to like get some people some hotel rooms that 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.560 were like sleeping outside, and that was great. Got a 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.879 lot of people have a cold, great, So we were 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.720 looking at extending their stays for like like past when 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.480 the cold, you know, the past when the snow belts 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.679 or whatever, because we had we had the fun to 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.119 do so. But some of these cats got fucking kicked 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.960 out of the hotels smoking inside. So one of them 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.719 brought a dog, and it was just like god, damn 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:16.720 it fuck. But so it really it really caused me 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.880 to pause and reflect on like because I often talk 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.959 about like the roads to quote unquote collective liberation and 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.200 how like the generations long struggle and like it's gonna 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.520 outlast us. You know, it's gonna you know, the next 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.199 generation is gonna go and finish the job. But like 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.359 that sounds really optimistic and rosie, but like that's the 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.760 case because things are gonna keep sucking up on the 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.040 way they're like you can get somebody stable shelter and 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.080 they could get themselves kicked out because they're smoking. Because 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.359 like if you have your whole life getting shipped on 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.520 and beat down, like a single day of a kind 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.480 act or even a year of like support to stop 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.840 sucking up, like is not even enough to help someone 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.119 really really get out of it. Like you know that 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.159 cat you saw in the video who like murder or 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.520 the guy on camera, and then it was like wilding out, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.520 like a lot of stuff led him to that point, 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.920 and it would require a whole whole whole lot of 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:14.320 ship to like transform the underlying conditions that created to 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.040 put him in a spot where he thought this was 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.320 a good fucking idea. Right, Like people are gonna like, 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.359 we're gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting, and people 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.040 are kind of keep sucking up because it's gonna take 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.399 a really like if we're really serious about like fixing 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.080 a lot of problems in society, like it's he gonna 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.600 take a real long time because the weird dealing with real, 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.920 real bad ship. That's that's true. But again I'm gonna 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.960 I hate playing Devil's advocate in these situations. But again, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.920 you know, if somebody wants to be like yo, young 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.320 such and such rapper grabbed the bank and then was 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.400 like flexing on Instagram and didn't understand the blah blah 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.520 blah or like young whatever rapper got into a fight 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.080 with some cops of blah blah blah blah blah, then 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.160 I mean for me personally, it's like then I could, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.360 I guess can be more comfortable looking at it in 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.000 those terms. And ship like that, when we're talking about ship, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.679 like you shot somebody like a randy, you know, some 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.199 rando outside of a vodega. It's like there's nothing like 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.639 I don't feel that I'm like serving any community at 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:25.240 large by like coverage someone like that, like funk that guy. Honestly, 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.480 it's like, yeah, there's a level of personal responsibility to it, 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.280 and so honestly unpopular take I have on these things 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.960 sometimes and I talked to other activists about this. I mean, 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.760 it goes back to what Frederick Douglas said about it's 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:43.280 easier to build strong children than repair broken men, and 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.720 so want to talk about like transformer society. Honestly, I'm 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.200 not only talking about helping that dude that like shot 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.480 somebody on camera, Like when you get to that point, 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.399 Like I don't want to say people are irredeemable. I 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.919 stually believe that with a significant investment of resources and 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.800 time to help people like that, they can get better. 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.359 But like, honestly, it's so like it would be probably 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.440 be a lot easier just to make sure if people 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.560 don't even end up there, Like let's get the kids. 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.040 I focus so much on new development. Get the kids, 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.840 get them healthy and like you know, ready for adulthood 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.399 and making good choices and then in like twenty years, 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.720 we won't have these kind of problems. I mean, I 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.600 just try to keep it consistent, you know, so for 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:27.360 me personally, you know what I mean. So it's like 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.400 if I'm looking at the news and it's like, yo, 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.119 crazy white boy went crazy and took his gun and 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.560 shot blah blah blah blah. You can give me whatever 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.280 reasons you want. I don't care, you know what I mean. 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.360 I don't. I don't. I don't care why I don't care. 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.240 Like there's there's nothing that anyone's gonna say that's gonna 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.320 make me like, oh, you know, but I guess you 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.159 know what I'm saying. So if you want to so, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:54.000 I'm just I'm not gonna like hear like YO, such 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.119 and such rapper, you know, like shot just or gotten 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.280 to a scuffle and thought or went to a don't 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.200 you know, I mean like Young Dolph got shot in 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:03.680 the back of the doing a shop. You know what 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:05.600 I mean. By Google's acting like they were in a mob, 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.919 you know what I mean, And like allegedly motherfucker's just 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:15.000 dropping singles like afterwards. So it's just like that whole thing. 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.359 It's just like it's a level of fuckory that I 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.840 personally feel like, you know, you know, like hey man, 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.240 that there's no there's no place for that. There's really 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:30.120 nothing to cover up. What's different between like my approach 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:31.960 and maybe a lot of other people that have that 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.240 reaction because also it's like, yeah, this person needs to 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.080 help account held accountable. Our system for that right now 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:42.040 is jail. Sick you did it, and now you're going 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.919 to jail. But like a sense of curiosity about how 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.280 somebody got to that point, because even if it's like 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.120 there's something we can do for you, we can learn 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.520 from that of like how the fund do you end 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.280 up at the point where you shoot somebody in the 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.120 back of the doughnut shop? Yeah, And which is why 0:24:56.560 --> 0:25:01.520 I solely mean that. It's like like like I feel 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.359 like it's a discussion like that. I feel like you 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.560 can still look at the situation be like oh, such 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.879 and such, such and such. There is a lot, like 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.840 you said, intellectual curiosity. There's a lot to be gained 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.560 by understanding why that person was, you know what I 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:20.399 mean in that situation. But like that's a conversation for 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.200 like outside people to have, like people who are looking 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.880 at it like from an intellectual, you know, analytical standpoint 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.040 and stuff. The people who are involved in the ship 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.840 are gonna look at the ship like the people who 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.880 are involved the ship like either you're directly involved, Hey 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.639 my cousin, my my brother, my sister was killed, you know, 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.200 or you know, I know the people who were the 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.000 victim of that, and you're gonna react accordingly. So all 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.160 I'm saying is it's like if there are people if 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.760 if the d A's like, hey, such and such is 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.000 accused of a crime, and then we have them on 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:58.760 tape talking about crimes. So of course they're going to 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.600 use that at that is what I'm saying. It seems 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.520 like they would, whether it's fair or unfair. I don't 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:09.520 necessarily think that, like the don Cheatle example is like 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.719 necessarily like fair because you've got to add some caveats 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:18.439 into it. If it's like, oh Jane made a movie 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.280 that was like if I had done it, you know 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.399 what I'm saying, and then you and then they wanted 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:28.159 to use that movie as evidence, I don't think I 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.480 would be saying no, you can't, you can't. I want 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.600 to use example. Well, two things I want to say 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.639 quick first to respond to that point and then respond 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.600 to earlier point. So, Luis c. K had jokes in 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.639 his stand up about masturbating in front of people that 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.040 didn't want to watch, and everybody laughed and once I 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.639 was uncomfortable, and then they moved on, and then he 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:53.320 actually later really did it, and so like y'all like 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.880 so but that you know, but there's a disconnect and like, oh, 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.000 you see something like that in a comedy special, you 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:00.520 might think is a little weird, but you move on. 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.360 You don't like go home and call the police, and like, hey, 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.120 I think Louis K is like sexually harassing people, you know, like, 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:13.560 but gets excused from it because there art is. You know, 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:18.560 they're millionaires. And and I'm gonna keep it consistent and 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.600 say that that shouldn't be the case, you know what 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.720 I mean, Like, in my personal opinion, that shouldn't be 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.280 the case if I don't and I don't necessarily know 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.480 the full details of how it went down and shipped 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:32.080 like that. But if if person X is a Louis c. 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.080 K fan and then somebody says, oh, Luisy K did 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.880 X to me, even if you're a fan, you're like, oh, 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.520 I don't believe that. I like Louis k and then 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.560 you got him on tape talking about, oh I like 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.920 to do this, I like to do this. I think 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.240 it opens up you know. I mean I don't think 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:52.200 that that that that that's like uh, you know, causing 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.639 a factor or like oh that means that that person 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.320 did that. But I mean, if you want to bring 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.720 that into the discussion, I don't see why not, you 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.920 know what I mean, if somebody like Louisy Kay did 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.560 this to me, look at these tapes where he's talking 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:08.479 about it, maybe that was a great example, like you know, 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.560 I know, but I don't know. I think I think 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.000 it was a good example. All I'm saying is that 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.520 I'm just and again I can only speak for myself. 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.000 It is like I agree with you. I just try 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.840 to keep that energy because like I don't like asking 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.399 people to do stuff that I know I wouldn't do, 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:24.879 you know what I'm saying. So I know that if 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:29.000 I were personally involved in some of these situations, I 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.680 wouldn't be able to look at it outside of that 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.880 personal you know, like like impact zone of how it 0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.240 affects me and ship like that. So if it's my 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:42.120 community if it's my my family member, my friend or 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.120 something like that, I'm gonna have like more of a 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.680 like I'm just not gonna be as understanding of these 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.520 like bigger micro macro issues and like that. So I'm 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.400 just I'm just more understanding when when people are The 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.160 second thing I wanted to respond to is you said 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.160 that that what I'm talking about is an intellectual exercise 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.760 that is done by folks that aren't impacted by violence. 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.360 And I want to remind you the listeners that I like, 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.200 I don't like, I don't mean to bring it to 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.239 bring the energy down real quick, but like I like 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.880 started thinking about the ship when my fucking I got 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.800 murdered man, and like I was like everybody was like, 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.120 oh she get the death penalty, da, And like I 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.120 literally can look at my family and be like, I 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.720 this mom, this dude's mom as bipolar disorders, addicted to crack. 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.560 Like he grew up in the middle of nowhere, only 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.040 options go to military where he learned how to fucking 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.280 use a bunch of fancy guns and grenades, and ship 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.760 came out and of course he fucking killed somebody. And 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.360 so I was like, oh, I could like see the 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.840 background of this person's life that led them to become 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.080 a murderer. And so I've been saying, like, you know, 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.680 it is probably rare. I mean, like my opinion is 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.400 very very much not of the majority or whatever, but 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.240 like there's a lot of people impacted by violence who 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.200 who because they are they lose a loved one or 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.920 you know, to incarceration or violence stuff whatever. I can 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.720 see the backwards, like you know, the bread crumbs of 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.440 like how it should ended up the way it was. 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.320 And I definitely don't mean like it's it's only it's 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.880 reserved for people who aren't impacted by violence. I just meant, 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.280 like on a case to case basis, based on how 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.000 it like personally affects you as all. It's all I bad, 0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.040 you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's a 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.280 it's a difficult it's a difficult conversation and it's definitely 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.120 a difficult topic that everybody. Everybody's going to have a 0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.720 different reaction to. All I'm saying is I just I 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:41.880 just personally I understand it. I understand why not everybody 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:47.560 tries to have or why everybody likes I understand why 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:53.040 not everybody can easily jump into that proper analytical phase 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.760 of talking about this. People know that people, people understand, 0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.800 people know what they're where all the time, understand but 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.280 it's just hard to like then channel into like a 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.360 direction where you understand what needs to change through it. Like, 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.120 so don't link all that together. But so I had 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.320 a story that came up, um that I wanted to 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.440 run by you. That's kind kind of related to, you know, 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.719 changing systems and stuff like that. I don't know if 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:25.560 you saw this viral video, but the Sunrise Police Department 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.920 in Florida is probing a sergeant who allegedly I mean, 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.320 I gotta say allegedly, right, but I mean the sis'll 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.880 tape I saw that they could do anyway they had. 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.600 They had a suspect that was had a It was 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.600 a you know, white officer, black male suspect was in 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:47.000 the back seat of the patrol car handcuff. They're the 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.200 this veteran officer of twenty one years, giant, big dude. 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.720 He apparently came in the tape that was released. The 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.200 sound and audio was was out, so you couldn't hear 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.320 what was being said, but this was confirmed by the 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.200 police chief later on. He came into the scene. He 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:07.240 escalated the situation and then he pulled out his pepper 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.120 spray and was getting ready to spray the handcuffs suspect 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:15.520 in the back seat, and a newer female officer like 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:19.120 immediately grabbed him by the belt and pulled him away 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.160 from the suspect, and he immediately grabbed her by the 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.000 neck and slammed her and gets the car in front 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:30.960 of all of her colleague. Um, he's been he's been 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:35.440 placed on i think nonpaid administrative leave and and in this, 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.280 in this regards to, you know, the props of the chief, 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.040 the chief of that particular precinct has come out and 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:43.840 it has been like, yo, she did the right thing. 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.520 This is a disgusting So I don't you know, I 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.760 don't think they're but it's really it's really blatant and 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:53.080 really obvious. I mean, he he grabbed like his first 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.880 instinct is to grab her by her throat, you know 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.600 what I'm saying. And he's like a giant dude and 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.360 she's like a regular sized woman. And it's just like 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.640 it looked like he's kind of used to grabbing women 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.280 by the people. And I always trying to tell me 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.840 when like I'm on my ship, you know, I'm on 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.760 one about shit. Like, oh well, people always use these 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.200 like stories from other places to like say we need 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.200 to make change here. We don't really have these problems here. 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:27.200 But like, first of all, these always different police departments 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.240 get the same kind of go to the same kinds 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.800 of conferences, get the same kinds of training. There we 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.680 have we have, you know, the police, the police chief 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.000 of one city will go to another city, or or 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.880 a police officer get fired from one city and got 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.520 another city. A couple of years ago, we had this 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.200 dude that like ran like a suspect over with his car, 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.800 didn't even know if it was the right dude, and 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.200 like got fired and just went to the next county 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:58.520 over and he um and and they could fucking suit 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:04.000 the county for wrongful dismissal and defamation for saying that 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:09.279 he shouldn't have hit the guy and got like like 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.919 half a million dollars. But anyway, that's beside the point, 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.440 although I do want to use that to explain that 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:20.040 um the Athens Clark County police chief announced today that 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:25.440 he is leaving and explains that I have no comment 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:31.320 on the matter because I you know, how like okay, 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.840 you know, how like you can't give a negative reference 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.319 for an employee, like it's it's illegal. A lot of 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.279 places like you either like just don't do it, or 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.360 you have to say something positive or it's like defamation 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.760 or something. Yeah, so you can't. You your old boss 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:48.359 can would be like so I'm just gonna say that 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.520 and leave it at that. But anyway, so yeah, so 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.080 you get like police officers that go to different precincts, 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.839 go to different places. You get this these national trainings 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.440 that all of them go to and come back to you. 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.200 So it's like a like a national only systemic thing 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.000 as well as the kind of people that want to 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.040 get into law enforcement. And so that ship is wild. 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:12.279 That ship, that ship is just wild. I mean, that's crazy. Well, 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.680 I mean we we were just talking about personal responsibility 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.960 and people inexplicably doing things on camera and on social 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.560 media that are like inexplicable. But I don't know, it 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.960 must be you know, maybe maybe somebody way smarter than 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.400 me is most likely analyzing this ship. But there's gotta 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:38.080 be some sort of terminology for the phenomenon and still 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.840 doing it. Anyway, First of all, too many fucking cops 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.319 do that ship? Too many teenagers do that ship. Let's 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.000 keep it real. Too many girlfriends just going to not 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.560 not paying attention to that. Um what else you got? 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.799 The sucking the people who stormed the capitol? Do you 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.640 know how many people storm the capital and the next 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:57.640 day called the lost and found to say that they 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.400 lost ship inside FBI? How can I help you? Oh 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:06.920 you left your bear miss and Nancy Pelosi's checks are 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:08.480 you real quick? And they put you on hold and 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.719 it's like knock, knock, knock, it's a swat team. It's 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:15.040 thrown smoked maid in the house. And people are on 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.080 live streams like in the middle of riding like, oh, dude, 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.840 I just got in a fight with some cops. That 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.520 ship was dope, son, Yeah, man, we bear mass this 0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:24.920 one cop. He's on the ground. He was bleeding as 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.080 this is. That's and then like interested, they're like, oh, 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.480 how did you guys catch me? Like I will also 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.520 say that pretends to the earlier debate, Um, they didn't 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.560 touch fun. A lot of folks that do wild shit 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.359 like this, not all of them, but particularly time where 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:42.160 it's like a shot yesterday ha ha. Like even if 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.359 they don't express it. They express a lot of bracketdocio. Yeah, 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.200 and the ship. There is a mindset of disposability that 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.040 people have where it's like my life doesn't mean ship anyway. No, 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.200 Like everybody, fucking like the whole system thinks I'm worthless, 0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.640 So why don't not fucking shoot a guy on a camera? 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.760 Like everybody goes to jail, Like everyone thinks I'm gonna 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.200 do something like that anyway. Fuck it. So back to 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.680 that a little bit, not to excuse that not you know, 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.880 it's personal, personal choice ultimately, but like another part of 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.600 like understanding how we fucking get here in the first place, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.000 where you're shooting a cat in the back of the 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.200 head and don't not shut well, I mean, what do 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:21.799 you think of that? What do you what do you 0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:23.600 think about the notion of It's like, yeah, it's a 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.279 personal choice. It's just I don't think I think that 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.200 we can have an opinion of whether or not it's 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.400 a good choice or not, you know, I mean, or 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.920 another or whether or another right choice. Like I mean, 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.719 not that you're saying that we shouldn't, but you know 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:40.120 that's why it's like I always I feel, I feel, 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.279 I always feel like a sense of conflict on on 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.800 these sort of topics just because you know, my father 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.319 worked for the State Department when I was a kid. 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.120 I've yeah, I've got family and law enforcement and ship 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.879 like that, so I know i'd always you don't want 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.319 to give full disclosure, you know, I definitely have that 0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:02.720 sort of you know, connection or indirect connection or whatever 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.520 you want to call it to these things. So it's 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.480 like just to before we move on, just to stress. 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.120 I just I always just try to like put myself 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.520 in other people's shoes just for the merely for nothing 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.760 other than just the exercise of understanding where other people 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.640 are coming from, you know what I mean. So it's 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:25.839 like I understand why some people perhaps may have like 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:32.040 a bit more lead more right on these certain issues 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.120 than perhaps I do, you know personally, you know what 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.680 I'm saying. And I just I just feel like like 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:41.920 like having like having that understanding and not just necessarily 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:46.520 assuming that it's because they're a ship, live or right 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.000 wing or you know what I mean, is helpful in 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.400 the discose. Yeah, yeah, I would love to understand the 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:56.480 underlying conditions that brought this cop in Sunrise, Florida to 0:38:56.680 --> 0:39:00.239 just like be so aggro that he not only bear 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:06.680 Mason's handcuff suspect, but choked his visit fellow officer. Officer, Like, bro, 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.920 how do you guess at that point, like it really 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.480 looked like some you know, roid rage because he's like 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.520 a jack up juice stuff. Do you know what I mean? 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.640 It looked like some roid rage type of like unstable 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.719 ship for a twenty one year vet. So I mean, 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:26.120 I'm just saying, public defenders, any case that this dude 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:30.320 has worked, I need to read this. I'll need to 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:37.680 re examine that ship, bro, Like tomorrow, it's gotta another 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.640 story I think we got. I was gonna think you 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.719 think we should just do one more? Yeah we can, Yeah, 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:46.520 we can do this. So back to wondering how the 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:48.960 fund did people get in the situation that they're in 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:55.000 perpetual ship get in her Kanye West is going to 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:59.800 Russia to me with Vladimir Putin so UM. On Tuesday, 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.799 January Levin, Billboard reported that Yea I planned on going 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:07.120 to Moscow to meet with the Russian President and hold 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.719 multiple Sunday services UM as its first ever shows in 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.600 the country of Russia. As ultimate purpose for the trip, 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.600 Um was to begin expanding his businesses overseas, and an 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.400 advisor to Kanye told Billboard that um Russia is going 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.680 to be a second home for Kanye, which I'm sure 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.640 the libs are absolutely losing their mind about, or they 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:29.680 or I could see if the white people, if the 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.839 white ones even knew this was happening, they probably don't 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.360 follow music news. If they found out, they probably completely 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.239 lose their minds because of Russia Gate, Wold Trump Russia ship, 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:43.320 Uh that people still, you know, I think frequently, and 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.000 I believe I've discussed this on the show before, whether 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:50.720 the Russia Gate hysteria opened the door for challenging election 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.439 integrity and ultimately what happened on January six, I don't think. 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.080 I mean, I hate, I can get another topic that's 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.440 going to force me to be so one on the 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.840 side of the lives. But I don't know. I'm not 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.920 necessarily I would not classify myself as being in on 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:12.440 Russia Gate hysteria or whatever whatever, but I tend to be. 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:14.560 You know, if it looks like a duck and it 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.880 quacks like a duck, it's a damn duck, you know 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.120 what I mean. So like, if if motherfucker's is like 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:24.239 having clandestine meetings and hotels and this and that, and 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.160 wild motherfucker's is going to jail for lying to this 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:31.480 and lying to that. And then every time they're accused, 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.480 their number one thing is you don't have the evidence 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.120 to prove that, as opposed to saying no, I didn't 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.760 do it. I'm just not inclined to think that they're innocent, 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.040 you know. So that that's just that's just the basis 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.840 of how I going Now, however else this wants to manifest. 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.359 You know, I don't necessarily think having that view means 0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:54.320 that you want world War three with Russia tomorrow, you know. 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:58.520 But with the Kanye situation, it's just interesting because it's like, 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:04.720 you know, there's there's like some pretty fucked up homophobic 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:09.160 laws that are like in the book in Russia. Bro. Yeah, 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.880 the U. S. Department like they currently lest Russia with 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:17.160 like a level four do not travel advisory given terrorism, 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:24.360 harassment by Russian government security officials, arbitrary enforcement of local 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:28.000 laws you and Russia's on the brink of invading or like. 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:38.399 So yeah, it's just yeah, it's just like I I um, yeah, 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.600 the whole that's weird. It's again it's it's Kanye, So 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:43.480 you know, weird goes in the book with it. But 0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:49.120 it's just another addition onto this like right wing drift 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:55.320 in this like plausibly deniable right wing fascist ship culturally 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.800 that's going on in this country that I think, you know, 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:03.800 wittingly or unwittingly, sir, celebrity figures are playing into. And 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.680 I think that's what this is because because to me, 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.080 it's like that's always you know, for the last like 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:13.160 five six, seven years, that's always been like my suspicion 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:18.000 of what the Republican infatuation is with Russia. Now, you 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:19.840 know what I'm saying, which is why I just I 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.719 don't care what lives are saying. Yeah, I really don't. 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.239 I'm looking at what Republicans are doing and what they're 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.759 saying themselves, you know what I mean. So if if 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.600 when I if like when I was in like early college, 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.040 if Republicans were like itching at the bit, like we 0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.480 hate Russia, we hate it, we hate it, we hate it, 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:37.360 and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, no, 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.640 we love Russia and Russia is awesome. No, it's great, 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.560 we love it. Yeah, No, Putin would be a better 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.080 president than an American president blah blah, we love it. 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.279 I don't know, I'm just not inclined to look at 0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.680 that and be like mm hmm, I can't stand Hill 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:54.120 reclap like no, no, I mean, like I'm I just 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.720 feel like there has to be a line somewhere because 0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.839 like I mean, I've seen this one left. We talk 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.319 about this in the to Turn this election. You see 0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.839 this to this day with like Bernie Sanders supporters said 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.719 the election was stolen, like when you let that, like, 0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:09.240 I feel like sometimes when narratives like that are allowed 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.120 to flourish, like they are taken up and when even 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.920 when they are legitimate and but people kind of run 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.600 away with them, like it does open up like this 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:25.080 grounds on which you can contest any kind of flaw, 0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.719 you know, like actually any sort of working of democracy 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.840 as such that you don't whose outcomes you don't like. 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.600 But do you think that this is not similar to 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:40.360 the like argument about the you know, the filibuster thinks 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:45.399 exactly the Republicans saying the Democrats loved the filibuster, butant 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.600 we were in power now they hate it, and it's like, yeah, 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.839 well fuck you got. I don't know, they like if 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.600 you don't have some consistency, they'll call you out. But 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.400 I think again, it's just a matter of like whether 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:03.680 you think Republicans are operating in good faith or not. So, 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.600 you know, I mean, and like, so for somebody who 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:10.040 doesn't believe so, for somebody who genuinely believes that, hey, 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.200 Republicans would not be talking about the election is stolen. 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:18.880 The election is stolen if people hadn't brought up Russia 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.120 Gate and that hadn't been a big story. If somebody 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.120 believes that, then I understand totally why you know, you 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.520 would look at like Russia Gate with this like skeptical 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.960 like sort of thing. I don't believe that. I think 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.759 the Republicans are gonna like link between Russia Gate and 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.680 January six. I'm saying, like over and over again, there's 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:40.200 there are these competing tensions between factions where like when 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.960 you lose, you say they cheated, Like no one ever 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.799 fucking just loses because they sucked. They just lose because 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:49.320 the other people cheated. Um, and so like I don't know, 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:54.000 I mean, also coming from someone that thinks that the 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.719 Left needs to play dirtier because other motherfucker's area are 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:05.560 willing to cheat. Yeah, it's like like the Republicans are 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.160 just they are willing to do what they feel they 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.800 need to do to attain power, and they are not 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:18.880 concerned with what Democrats are going to do or not do. 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:20.359 This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean. 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:25.760 I here's here's what I'm saying. If the Democrats don't 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:31.879 break the filibuster, the Republicans will the same way. We're 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.600 like pussyfooting about with the Supreme Court. No, we don't 0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.200 know if we want to do the Supreme Court. No, 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.680 maybe I should. We shouldn't push this issue for this 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.919 person to retire so that their slack can get filled, 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.560 because oh, we don't know. That's all assuming that the 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.960 Republicans aren't gonna be craving when they get the opportunity 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.759 to you know. So it's all projections. So if if 0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:53.480 we if we funk around, like not believing them when 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.680 they say the ship that they're gonna that they're gonna do, 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.279 and the ship that they're into, like the election, you know, 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.640 election to disputes. I think that that was coming regardless 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:07.480 because they were disputing the election in before any like 0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.719 before anybody was really talking about Russia before the elect 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.960 before election even happened, they were talking saying, oh, it's stolen, 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.400 you know. So I I look at that sort of 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.239 thing that was always going to be a part of 0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:22.360 their playbook, and that they don't need any excuse, you know, 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.239 you know what I mean, like us being like like 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.440 people who are on the left being like, oh, man, 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.279 the January six writers need to be held accountable. The 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.840 state needs to come after the We can have whatever 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.520 objections that we have with it, but I don't think 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:39.480 that one of those objections should be. Man, you know 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.960 what if we keep pushing for the state to go 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:46.959 after the January six rioters, then the Republicans are gonna 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:48.560 come after us the next time that we have a 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:52.520 BLF march, like like they're gonna, you know, like the 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:56.920 minute that they get the minute again. They had unmarked 0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.600 black van snatching people off the streets, but they had power. 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.359 I don't think you need you even need to say 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.360 more about that. There was no conservative voice, there was 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:10.719 no speed free speech warrior, none of them had any 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.160 objection to it. You didn't hear Joe rogan sation about oh, 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.960 why are they snatching these protesters off the street with 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.480 fucking ice agents from Texas that were in Portland for 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.040 some strange reason. Why is that happening? Why Why are 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.919 unidentified a jack booted thugs snatching demonstrated on the street. 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:28.759 They didn't give a funk about that ship when it 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.200 was happening, the Antifa guys, so they're they're ready there 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.640 with the ships. They're ready to use the state to crush, 0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.160 to crush the scent, you know what I mean. And 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.759 if if if Democrats keep going with ship, assuming whether 0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.600 it's Democrats or whether it's like people who are more radical, 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.360 you know what I mean, If you assume that the 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.560 Republicans are playing the game the way that we are, 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.319 I just think that's how we lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.120 I'm sorry. I didn't mean. You just got me thinking 0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.560 about using the state to crush people. Perhaps closing, I 0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.799 will circle back around to this particular quote that stuck 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.840 out to me from an MLK speech I listened to 0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.920 on Monday. It was the speech at the National Conference 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:13.640 on New Politics in Chicago, and MLK said, I think 0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:15.799 it might be a little flight paraphrase, but more or less, 0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:20.120 um is poverty and unemployment rages in the black ghetto. 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:24.000 The bipartisan responses, an anti riot bill instead of an 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:28.000 anti poverty program. And it just really hit me because 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:29.879 literally last week I was talking about the police chief 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.000 quick this week, well last week it was mentioned last 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:36.200 episode I had some choice awards for him at the 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.520 meeting where I was like, I don't really want to 0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.719 talk to you. I don't really trust you, you know, 0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:43.360 bah bah bah, because in that meeting, you know, in 0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:47.719 response for a year, for years now, decades now, even 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.759 you know, the black community has been calling for investment 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.400 in our people, and you know BLM, you know, the 0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:59.480 uprising was all about that, all about that, and here 0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.719 we are about a year and a half later, and 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:05.000 their responses, Well, people didn't like that we use tear 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.560 gas on the protesters, so we bought a sound cannon 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.800 to blow their ear drums out and give them permanent 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.279 neurological damage. Um oh, and can we also give every 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:22.160 police officer a tactical rifle? So like literally today we're 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.840 still doing it. And like this is the bipartisan response. 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.759 It's not just like the right wing. Note like I 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.560 don't even say, like I don't even want to say 0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.200 like democrats like want to use the state to crush 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:36.040 the scent, but like they certainly let it happen. Like 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.120 there's Democrats sitting in this commission meeting, like tactical rifles 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.920 forever bloy not blest, sound cannon blow out people's ear drums. 0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:45.719 I well, you know, okay, sure, I don't know, like 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:51.480 why not? So yeah, I know you're oncent correct about 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:55.600 that ship. I don't know what it's gonna take, but 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.480 we gotta snap out of it somehow, Like you know, 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:04.080 it's it's really disappointing to hear that everything. You didn't 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:06.000 tell that story. You told that story last week, and 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.120 it was disappointing to hear because it's like the thing 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.359 after all of that marching and all of that demonstrating 0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:16.480 and organizing, that a year and a half later, we're 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:20.400 talking about tear gas and chow colds. You know what 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:24.279 I'm saying. That's that's that's the change, that's the that's 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:27.239 the that's the that's the that's the systemic you know, 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:32.399 issues that were like you can't not like nothing gets done. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.640 Just that's not like oh, politicians are just inspired and 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.600 go fight for ship. They fight for ship. They realized 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.759 they gotta do ship. They're forced to do ship by 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:42.759 like the masses of people organized and so like a 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:44.520 lot of people woke the funk up and they're like, oh, 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:48.120 ship changinging, make me like light bulbs going off everywhere, 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.480 and like that's not going, that's not you can't put 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:53.759 that cab back in the bag. And so yes, we 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:57.040 have not seen like in a substantive way, all of 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.880 that organizing and marching and getting you know, thrown to 0:51:59.920 --> 0:52:04.040 the ground and Mason shipped like bear fruit. But those people, 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.839 those millions of people like dy an't go that cat 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.200 ain't going back in the bag. Tell you some now, 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.160 that's what's gonna get interesting. But you know, here we 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:19.560 are today. All we can do is um, keep hope 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:27.319 alive and spit bars. I was gonna try to make 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.480 it rhyme and make a bar out of it. I 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.840 was gonna say, like, keep hope alive and slap it 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:34.640 on the black hand side or something like that. I 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.040 don't know. Let's get you some real beats, real bars, 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:40.960 Joe Mariah said, piece and bars like go hard in 0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.560 the paint and my roots is far Jeff Jarrett on 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:46.040 these rappers like a cheap guitar. I came up in 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.440 the flames and I keep the scars, but don't Missy 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.160 exceptly just one year old. They've been nice with the 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.200 flow sest the day kissed roll Up, but it got 0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.080 me pissed. I watched Foxes, cannot be it. Keep m 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.560 ok Coast all about your Nazi lips. They try hard, 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:02.400 but it's nonsense. Reparations give us five stars in the 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.480 comment towards me, and I'll take a step backwards because 0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.320 I don't buy my hate this and what the fucking 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.560 hats so I asked to let past it and bet 0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.840 about it. I'm passive, but that don't mean that I 0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:15.080 am a cowward like Martin lu Mahatma Gandhi. I used 0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:17.200 my words to set on my comflicts rather than try 0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.680 to shoot you be cool Brooks around the stampasac than 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:22.360 to rock and a rather understanding did. I never haven't 0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:27.239 tried to Yo yo, yo yo. My name is Dope 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:33.480 Knife with Franco and we are waiting on reparations. 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