1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: You are listening to Waiting on Reparations, a production of 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Yo, yo yo, what's happening? I'm good? 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: How are you? Who are we? Are we waiting on Reparations? 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Are you dope? Knife? Am I lingual? Frazio? We certainly are. 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: This is Waiting on Reparation, the show where we talk 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: hip hop and politics, and I guess all the things 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: in between, things in between, what we got in between 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: this week? What you've been up to? What's on your mind? Oh? 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: I had a birthday over these yea happy birthday? Yeah, 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: you know, birthday weekend. What can you do? You know 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: you have to you gotta sell her. I don't usually 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: celebrate the birthday like all out every year. You know 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that I guess, the older than I get, 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm mad. It's really only like a 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: celebrate it like every like three or four birthday exactly. 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: But I mean I didn't necessarily go all out. We 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: are still in the middle of a pandemic. But you know, 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: just hung out with some friends, took it easy for 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. Did anyone else 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: important to have a birthday on Monday Saturday? I don't 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: know if I would say important, but I mean, you know, 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: like you know it could be you know certain certain 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: you know great American figures have a birthday, possible holiday 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: inducing then you know rioters, degenerates. Yeah, we look people 25 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: who get their messages, you know, kind of manipulated and 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: through time and used by people who weren't necessarily on 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: their side. Anybody who the FBI urged to kill themselves 28 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: have a birthday. Recently, I get this weird feeling there 29 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: was a guy, some kind of man. There's a starting 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: to sound like the longest running dad joke that has 31 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: ever been. You guys all know who the man the legend? 32 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: What did you do for your MLK day? I mean 33 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: it is well from a mixture of just logistics, challenges 34 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: of having a tiny human strapped to my soul, and 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: as well calls from the king family themselves for no 36 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: celebration until passage of voting reds Bill, I didn't really 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: do much in terms of public appearances of any kind. 38 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I just kind of spent the day listening to some 39 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: old speeches of his um and just kind of reflecting on, 40 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: really reflecting on how hated he was in his day. UM, 41 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Like you know, perusing political cartoons from the king archives 42 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: from the time, you know, folks. You know, like there 43 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: was one where he's like officiating a mixed marriage of 44 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: like a white and black character with one of them 45 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: hats on their back, like the anti war movement, and 46 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: the other is like civil civil rights and it's supposed 47 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, like a interracial marriage with this 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: dirty scoundrel scalawag. Because another one where like he's sitting 49 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: drinking at a bar and like this small child was 50 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: grabbing his coat like come back, dad, and like, uh, 51 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: the little child is like labeled as a civil rights movement, 52 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: and then he's drinking out of the bottles of like 53 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: anti Vietnam and like communism or something, and it's just 54 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: like bra so many of the moderates, like he called it. 55 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: And the thing is about listening to speeches is he 56 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: calls out bipartisan function like Democrats and Republicans being shitty, 57 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: and you know, the whole letter from Birmingham jail kind 58 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: out the white marlerates even like the moderate as bitches 59 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: out here like the fucking Chuck Schumers of the world 60 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: would have reviled this man and vice versa. Yeah, but 61 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody would have reviled him more than the 62 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: right wingers out there, who, more than anybody, claim his 63 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: message to be their own, as if what Martin Luther 64 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: King was actually to like as if like the dominating 65 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: you know thing about Martin Luther King was, Hey, I 66 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: don't see race, you know. You know, It's like I 67 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that. I think we've talked 68 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: about this before, but I find it hard to believe 69 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: that a twenty year old Martin Luther King right now 70 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: would be if you would be hearing Ben Shapiro, you 71 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like name dropped their quote. It's 72 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: not even hard to like learn about what he was about. 73 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you could extrapolate whatever you want from 74 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: like half listening to his speeches in the background while 75 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: you worked like I was doing on Monday. But like, yeah, 76 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: there's so much more than you know. The color blinds 77 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: like the single word they try to draw from, like 78 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: you know, I have a dream or whatever. Like literally 79 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: all it takes to turn on this thing. Okay, I 80 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: got this really crazy thing called YouTube. Go on there 81 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: and you google. In the YouTube, I hear the kids 82 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: say for his name and it will give you a 83 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: bunch of speeches where you can actually hear the ship. 84 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: He said, It's like so like it's not even hard. 85 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: It's like zero intellectual curiosity from the like you don't 86 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: even you don't even google it to see, like I don't. 87 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think that it's like 88 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: a lack of wanting to know or anything like that. 89 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the point of it. I mean, it's 90 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: a reason why you know, the conservatives are quick to 91 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: drop the I have a dream speech, you know, from 92 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, but then behind the scenes, you know, 93 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the you know, the components of these 94 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: anti CRT I just lay is to make the letter 95 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: from Birmingham like bann and that they can't teach that 96 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: or teach any other aspect of what he said, you know, 97 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: as if like all of Martin Luther King's involvement in 98 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: the civil rights movement was I think, you know, judge, 99 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: judge somebody by the content of their character and not 100 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: by the you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty 101 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: sure he said more and even even that, I'm sure 102 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: there was like there was a context to it that 103 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of these right wingers are 104 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: using in good faith. But I mean, you're right, Martin 105 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Luther King was a brother who was giving it to everybody, 106 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm saying he was not having it. 107 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: So definitely a lot of the moderates who who think 108 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: that they're down with m okay probably wouldn't be now. 109 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it goes without saying that 110 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, we're here to defend himself. Like there's 111 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: no way that you know, the Laura Ingram's and Bill o' 112 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: radley's of the world would think to to name drop 113 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: of if he was here to get on the TV 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: and be like, yo, don't don't don't met you by day. 115 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I like, it's you know, it's 116 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: funked up that he got assassinated as ship. But what 117 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: I will say is that I have also been you know, 118 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: y'all on the show here we talk a lot about 119 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: like liberation movement history that I staid, And so I've 120 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: recently been reading Elaine Brown's autobiography. She was the only 121 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: female um like chairperson of the Black Panther Party and 122 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: so in studying just like learning more about her and 123 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: her role in the Black Panther Party and what she 124 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: did afterwards. I watched some interviews with her recently, and 125 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: it's bad. She is not cool anymore. And then do 126 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: you think about I mean, she's just like, well, first 127 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: of all, there's no like ideological coherence to like the 128 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: thing she says. Like. I saw this one interview where 129 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: she was like, to fund the like no, literally, so 130 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: she starts, she opens the interview say, back in the day, 131 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: we used to talk about often the pigs and that 132 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: was a great slogan. Let's bring that back, okay, And 133 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: then literally later on was critiquing I guess the young 134 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: people she was talking to, saying to fund the police 135 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: has gone too far, and y'all are like, y'all need 136 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: to get out and talk to more black people because 137 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: black people don't really want to fund the police. So 138 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: it's just like and then she gets on this rant 139 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: about pronouns and it's like the language police. And so 140 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: I said to say, a lot of our leaders who 141 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: we still have today didn't really keep up with the 142 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: radical spirit they engendered as young people, you know, talking 143 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: about Aldredge clever, fucking I don't know even to a 144 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: degree John Lewis with like, you know, didn't always hold 145 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: it down for for quite everything, but uh so I 146 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: feel like it would have been uh I don't know, 147 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see what it was, what 148 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: it would be like if folks like mL Hey and 149 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: Malcolm X were like here today, what positions they would 150 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: hold today. Yeah, I mean, you're right, but I mean 151 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: it's like again, I just I just know that they 152 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: used to call the brother communists, you know, like even 153 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: even before there was any they you know, they used 154 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: to call him communists without even any understanding of whether 155 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: or not he actually was a problem. That's never been true. 156 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: It's never not been the case. But I'm just saying, 157 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: like again, with that said a twenty year old, a 158 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: twenty year old race and socially conscious communists, you know 159 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, there's no there's there's no way 160 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: any of them are like or giving him any sort 161 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: of props for anything anything period. Well we give you 162 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: and then oh I'm sorry, sorry, you know this this 163 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: year was fell on m LK Day, but my birthday, 164 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: I mean, because usually it doesn't, you know, I'm about 165 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to ask, like, how does it feel every single year 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: was like it was a there was a point and 167 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: there was like a point in time I remember where 168 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: like whenever I would share with people like the other 169 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: famous people who have my birthday, because there's a there's 170 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: a couple of other cats who do have a birthday. 171 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: I think me and Michelle Obama share the same birthday. 172 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Jim Carey has the birthday. Um, I think like Kid Rock, 173 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali or something like that, you know what I mean, 174 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Like I got I sure a birthday was you know, 175 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: not Kid Rock, but I sure birthday with some cool cats. 176 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: There's some famous cats. And I remember for a long 177 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: time there was a period whenever I would tell people that, like, oh, 178 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: this famous person have my birthday, I would always just 179 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: include M LK in that because I thought that his 180 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: birthday was on my birthday. And then I think, I 181 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: don't understand that Monday was not his birthday. I kind 182 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: of that I've coped. I'm gonna lie to you. So 183 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: what is it? It's like, what is the like what 184 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: the big third Monday in uh in January? Yeah, and 185 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: so it's like near his birthday, but like they keep 186 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: the date the same day. Okay, yeah, alright, that makes sense. Well, 187 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: ship I mean, yeah, props to him, Pat myself. Happy birthday, bitch. 188 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I've fared when I was when I was a younger man, 189 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, when I wasn't expecting sorry, they weren't expecting 190 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: black men to live past the sex. Look at you, 191 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: you're almost older than Okay was when he got domed. 192 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh ship, I don't even want to think about that ship. 193 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh God. Anyway, anyway, what are we getting into. We 194 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: got a little bit everything. We're gonna talk a little 195 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: bit about young Dolph uh and uh, a little bit 196 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: of that um tragedy and controversy, Kanye doing Kanye Uh. 197 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about going on Russia Ukraine. 198 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: So a little bit of everything, and we will be 199 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: right back with that after we take a little break. 200 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: All right, So we are back. So what's the first 201 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: story to um? So, I'm sure most listeners know about 202 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: the death of young Dolph? Um he how long ago 203 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: was this that? Actually I should have pulled up pause, 204 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: maybe like a month and a half pause and pull 205 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: up actual some source on this, so I don't sunk 206 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: up the details. It was November seventeen, alright, Okay, So, 207 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: um So, Young Dolph uh was a was the Tennessee 208 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Bass I fucking forget everything. Yeah yeah, Memphis, let me 209 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: try this game. So um, as I'm sure listeners are 210 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: already aware, Memphis based rapper Young Dolf was shot and 211 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: killed on November seventeenth of last year. Um he you know, 212 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: had peaked number thirty five on the Billboard Hot one hundred, 213 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: was coming up in the game and struck down in 214 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: his prime. But then last week his one of his 215 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: suspected killer's who was wanted by the police, dropped a 216 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: new song. On the day that he also announced that 217 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: he would be turning himself into the authorities and was 218 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: later arrested. So this other Memphis rapper named straight Drop, 219 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: also known as twenty three year old Justin Johnson dropping 220 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: a music video for his new song track Hawk, and 221 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: then the next day was apprehended by US Marshalls in 222 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Indiana and charged with first degree murder. The weekend prior, 223 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: Straight Drop posted a message on his Instagram story on 224 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: which he said he was gonna be turning himself on 225 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: in on Monday. He was innocent and he'd be back soon. 226 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: But we'll see about that as he is now in 227 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: UH police custody and because clearly not really been taking 228 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: this situation too seriously. Too seriously well, I mean, so 229 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm very curious as to what your reaction. Man, I 230 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: really you know what I want of those people, as 231 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, again, listen to the show notes that always 232 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: tries to find the systemic and underlying causes of a 233 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: lot of just funked up ship that happens, because I 234 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: think I ultimately have to uproot that in order to 235 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: change situations. Right, But I've been recently encountering a lot 236 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: of examples where people just do dumb shit and like 237 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: hal and I'm having to face the fact of first 238 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: of all, like you can't evade discussions of public personal 239 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: responsibility forever. Like this nigga decided, like you know, people 240 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: was looking for him, and maybe he was like getting 241 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: a little acclaimed. Those folks knew he was a suspect, 242 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: and I wanted to ride that to like fucking news 243 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: a video like I mean, look again, you know, going 244 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: off of the words of it. It's always weird with 245 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: these stories because it's like, all right, so dudes being 246 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: accused by the cops and I don't want to, you know, 247 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: but I meanly allegedly shot allegedly, but again, you know, 248 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: a lot of this it's it's it's consistent and it 249 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: makes sense. I don't know if it's a generational thing 250 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: or what. I don't know. It's a social media driven 251 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Again, I don't know, but God didn't 252 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: we want to talk about not having sources. I forget 253 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: the name of the rapper, but just a couple of 254 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago, another you know, similar situation with a young 255 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: New York rapper who they've got him on camera, you know, 256 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: or allegedly I'll say, on camera it definitely looks like him, 257 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: but committing a murder and then later on the same day, 258 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: like flexing on Instagram in the same design, in the 259 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: same designer gear that he just committed a murder that 260 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: was in broad daylight in the middle of the street, 261 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: that like, you know, and it's almost as if there's 262 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: like no like understanding that it's like, yo, I'm on 263 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: camera and yeah, I mean I recently, I think I 264 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: mentioned in a recent episode that I went and spoke 265 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: at a bond hearing for a local rapper and friend, 266 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: like loose friend that we've been was charged with the 267 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: attempted murder and spoke on like the stuff he's done 268 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: the community, for the kids, And then the prosecution in 269 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: the cross examination purely focused on the fact that after 270 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: the shooting happened, like the next day, this cat dropped 271 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: a music video called who Shot at Me? Where he's 272 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: talking about I'm gonna find you and feel you and 273 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: ship and like flashing guns in the video. And so 274 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: was his bond hearing of like what should we at 275 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: this guy back on the streets, And they were grilling 276 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: me on like did you see this music video? Did 277 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: you see him with like the gun? And the music 278 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: video he said, did you hear the part where he 279 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: says he's gonna go shoot shoot these people? And I 280 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: had to be like yeah, but like but ultimately like 281 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't I mean, I felt like it doesn't discredit 282 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: what I have seen him do in the community. Also 283 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: knowing that a lot of these people, like I talked 284 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: to him all earlier today he was like, yo, if 285 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: don cheatle like like directed a film that's all about 286 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: this murder, this mass murder, and he's in the film 287 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: murdering people. Can you put him on And then later 288 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: he murdered someone. Can you put him on the stand 289 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: and say that, like oh you had the murder movie 290 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: like that, Like, yo, you definitely did the murder Like no, 291 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: it's art And that was his argument, like yo, like 292 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: I had to like show up and look tough because 293 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna people fun with me, etcetera. Like and 294 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: that kind of makes sense. But I think to a 295 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: different level, I want to agree with you though, it's 296 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: like there is a certain sense of like, don't do 297 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: that what you do? Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's 298 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: like it's you know, there's I guess at some points 299 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: that can kind of be a fine line between um, 300 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: you know, we always want to look at the macro 301 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: reasons for why things happen and for why people do 302 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: the things that they do so well, you know, we 303 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: want to like analyze the structures and stuff and understand 304 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: that ship doesn't just like boil down as simple to 305 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: pull your bootstraps up. And you know what I mean 306 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: personal responsibility not like not everything fits into that box, 307 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that there there's that 308 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: on one hand, and then there's the also you know, 309 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: like man on like a common sense aspect. You know, 310 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: there's there's right, and there's rob you know what I'm saying, 311 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: and like, I don't I don't think that that there 312 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: has to be like necessarily like a conflict in understanding 313 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: one thing and like or like performing performing one of 314 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: those like ways of a understanding the world and the 315 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: other you know, I think that you can still like 316 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: look at the bigger picture as to why people do 317 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: the things that they do, and why people feel that 318 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: they're in the situations they're in and things like that, 319 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: and then also recognize that people make choices. Yeah, people, 320 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: And for me, it's really been casting me to reflect. 321 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: A third thing that really got me thinking about this 322 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: lately is that it's snowed here on Sunday. This snow 323 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: hasn't been so it's down here on Sunday. Really really 324 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: cuteby was posted and they agnore me picks with their 325 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: dirty snow men and they're cute toddlers like snow Nancy um. 326 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: And so I worked with some like local like homeless 327 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: advocates to like get some people some hotel rooms that 328 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: were like sleeping outside, and that was great. Got a 329 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: lot of people have a cold, great, So we were 330 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: looking at extending their stays for like like past when 331 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: the cold, you know, the past when the snow belts 332 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: or whatever, because we had we had the fun to 333 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: do so. But some of these cats got fucking kicked 334 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: out of the hotels smoking inside. So one of them 335 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: brought a dog, and it was just like god, damn 336 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: it fuck. But so it really it really caused me 337 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: to pause and reflect on like because I often talk 338 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: about like the roads to quote unquote collective liberation and 339 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: how like the generations long struggle and like it's gonna 340 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: outlast us. You know, it's gonna you know, the next 341 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: generation is gonna go and finish the job. But like 342 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: that sounds really optimistic and rosie, but like that's the 343 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: case because things are gonna keep sucking up on the 344 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: way they're like you can get somebody stable shelter and 345 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: they could get themselves kicked out because they're smoking. Because 346 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: like if you have your whole life getting shipped on 347 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: and beat down, like a single day of a kind 348 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: act or even a year of like support to stop 349 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: sucking up, like is not even enough to help someone 350 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: really really get out of it. Like you know that 351 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: cat you saw in the video who like murder or 352 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: the guy on camera, and then it was like wilding out, 353 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff led him to that point, 354 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: and it would require a whole whole whole lot of 355 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: ship to like transform the underlying conditions that created to 356 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: put him in a spot where he thought this was 357 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: a good fucking idea. Right, Like people are gonna like, 358 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting, and people 359 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: are kind of keep sucking up because it's gonna take 360 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: a really like if we're really serious about like fixing 361 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: a lot of problems in society, like it's he gonna 362 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: take a real long time because the weird dealing with real, 363 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: real bad ship. That's that's true. But again I'm gonna 364 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: I hate playing Devil's advocate in these situations. But again, 365 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody wants to be like yo, young 366 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: such and such rapper grabbed the bank and then was 367 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: like flexing on Instagram and didn't understand the blah blah 368 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: blah or like young whatever rapper got into a fight 369 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: with some cops of blah blah blah blah blah, then 370 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean for me personally, it's like then I could, 371 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: I guess can be more comfortable looking at it in 372 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: those terms. And ship like that, when we're talking about ship, 373 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: like you shot somebody like a randy, you know, some 374 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: rando outside of a vodega. It's like there's nothing like 375 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: I don't feel that I'm like serving any community at 376 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: large by like coverage someone like that, like funk that guy. Honestly, 377 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there's a level of personal responsibility to it, 378 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: and so honestly unpopular take I have on these things 379 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: sometimes and I talked to other activists about this. I mean, 380 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: it goes back to what Frederick Douglas said about it's 381 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: easier to build strong children than repair broken men, and 382 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: so want to talk about like transformer society. Honestly, I'm 383 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: not only talking about helping that dude that like shot 384 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: somebody on camera, Like when you get to that point, 385 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to say people are irredeemable. I 386 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: stually believe that with a significant investment of resources and 387 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: time to help people like that, they can get better. 388 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: But like, honestly, it's so like it would be probably 389 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: be a lot easier just to make sure if people 390 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: don't even end up there, Like let's get the kids. 391 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: I focus so much on new development. Get the kids, 392 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: get them healthy and like you know, ready for adulthood 393 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: and making good choices and then in like twenty years, 394 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: we won't have these kind of problems. I mean, I 395 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: just try to keep it consistent, you know, so for 396 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: me personally, you know what I mean. So it's like 397 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at the news and it's like, yo, 398 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: crazy white boy went crazy and took his gun and 399 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: shot blah blah blah blah. You can give me whatever 400 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: reasons you want. I don't care, you know what I mean. 401 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't care why I don't care. 402 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: Like there's there's nothing that anyone's gonna say that's gonna 403 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: make me like, oh, you know, but I guess you 404 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you want to so, 405 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not gonna like hear like YO, such 406 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: and such rapper, you know, like shot just or gotten 407 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: to a scuffle and thought or went to a don't 408 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean like Young Dolph got shot in 409 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: the back of the doing a shop. You know what 410 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean. By Google's acting like they were in a mob, 411 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And like allegedly motherfucker's just 412 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: dropping singles like afterwards. So it's just like that whole thing. 413 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: It's just like it's a level of fuckory that I 414 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: personally feel like, you know, you know, like hey man, 415 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: that there's no there's no place for that. There's really 416 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: nothing to cover up. What's different between like my approach 417 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: and maybe a lot of other people that have that 418 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: reaction because also it's like, yeah, this person needs to 419 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: help account held accountable. Our system for that right now 420 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: is jail. Sick you did it, and now you're going 421 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: to jail. But like a sense of curiosity about how 422 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: somebody got to that point, because even if it's like 423 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: there's something we can do for you, we can learn 424 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: from that of like how the fund do you end 425 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: up at the point where you shoot somebody in the 426 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: back of the doughnut shop? Yeah, And which is why 427 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: I solely mean that. It's like like like I feel 428 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: like it's a discussion like that. I feel like you 429 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: can still look at the situation be like oh, such 430 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: and such, such and such. There is a lot, like 431 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: you said, intellectual curiosity. There's a lot to be gained 432 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: by understanding why that person was, you know what I 433 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: mean in that situation. But like that's a conversation for 434 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: like outside people to have, like people who are looking 435 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: at it like from an intellectual, you know, analytical standpoint 436 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: and stuff. The people who are involved in the ship 437 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: are gonna look at the ship like the people who 438 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: are involved the ship like either you're directly involved, Hey 439 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: my cousin, my my brother, my sister was killed, you know, 440 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: or you know, I know the people who were the 441 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: victim of that, and you're gonna react accordingly. So all 442 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's like if there are people if 443 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: if the d A's like, hey, such and such is 444 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: accused of a crime, and then we have them on 445 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: tape talking about crimes. So of course they're going to 446 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: use that at that is what I'm saying. It seems 447 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: like they would, whether it's fair or unfair. I don't 448 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: necessarily think that, like the don Cheatle example is like 449 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: necessarily like fair because you've got to add some caveats 450 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: into it. If it's like, oh Jane made a movie 451 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: that was like if I had done it, you know 452 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and then you and then they wanted 453 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: to use that movie as evidence, I don't think I 454 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: would be saying no, you can't, you can't. I want 455 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: to use example. Well, two things I want to say 456 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: quick first to respond to that point and then respond 457 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: to earlier point. So, Luis c. K had jokes in 458 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: his stand up about masturbating in front of people that 459 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to watch, and everybody laughed and once I 460 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: was uncomfortable, and then they moved on, and then he 461 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: actually later really did it, and so like y'all like 462 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: so but that you know, but there's a disconnect and like, oh, 463 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: you see something like that in a comedy special, you 464 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: might think is a little weird, but you move on. 465 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: You don't like go home and call the police, and like, hey, 466 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: I think Louis K is like sexually harassing people, you know, like, 467 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: but gets excused from it because there art is. You know, 468 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: they're millionaires. And and I'm gonna keep it consistent and 469 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: say that that shouldn't be the case, you know what 470 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, in my personal opinion, that shouldn't be 471 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: the case if I don't and I don't necessarily know 472 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: the full details of how it went down and shipped 473 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: like that. But if if person X is a Louis c. 474 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: K fan and then somebody says, oh, Luisy K did 475 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: X to me, even if you're a fan, you're like, oh, 476 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I like Louis k and then 477 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: you got him on tape talking about, oh I like 478 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: to do this, I like to do this. I think 479 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: it opens up you know. I mean I don't think 480 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: that that that that that's like uh, you know, causing 481 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: a factor or like oh that means that that person 482 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: did that. But I mean, if you want to bring 483 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: that into the discussion, I don't see why not, you 484 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, if somebody like Louisy Kay did 485 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: this to me, look at these tapes where he's talking 486 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: about it, maybe that was a great example, like you know, 487 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know. I think I think 488 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: it was a good example. All I'm saying is that 489 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm just and again I can only speak for myself. 490 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: It is like I agree with you. I just try 491 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: to keep that energy because like I don't like asking 492 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: people to do stuff that I know I wouldn't do, 493 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I know that if 494 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: I were personally involved in some of these situations, I 495 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to look at it outside of that 496 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: personal you know, like like impact zone of how it 497 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: affects me and ship like that. So if it's my 498 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: community if it's my my family member, my friend or 499 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: something like that, I'm gonna have like more of a 500 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: like I'm just not gonna be as understanding of these 501 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: like bigger micro macro issues and like that. So I'm 502 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: just I'm just more understanding when when people are The 503 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: second thing I wanted to respond to is you said 504 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: that that what I'm talking about is an intellectual exercise 505 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: that is done by folks that aren't impacted by violence. 506 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: And I want to remind you the listeners that I like, 507 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't mean to bring it to 508 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: bring the energy down real quick, but like I like 509 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: started thinking about the ship when my fucking I got 510 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: murdered man, and like I was like everybody was like, 511 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: oh she get the death penalty, da, And like I 512 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: literally can look at my family and be like, I 513 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: this mom, this dude's mom as bipolar disorders, addicted to crack. 514 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Like he grew up in the middle of nowhere, only 515 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: options go to military where he learned how to fucking 516 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: use a bunch of fancy guns and grenades, and ship 517 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: came out and of course he fucking killed somebody. And 518 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I could like see the 519 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: background of this person's life that led them to become 520 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: a murderer. And so I've been saying, like, you know, 521 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: it is probably rare. I mean, like my opinion is 522 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: very very much not of the majority or whatever, but 523 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people impacted by violence who 524 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: who because they are they lose a loved one or 525 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, to incarceration or violence stuff whatever. I can 526 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: see the backwards, like you know, the bread crumbs of 527 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: like how it should ended up the way it was. 528 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: And I definitely don't mean like it's it's only it's 529 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: reserved for people who aren't impacted by violence. I just meant, 530 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: like on a case to case basis, based on how 531 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: it like personally affects you as all. It's all I bad, 532 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's a 533 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: it's a difficult it's a difficult conversation and it's definitely 534 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: a difficult topic that everybody. Everybody's going to have a 535 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: different reaction to. All I'm saying is I just I 536 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: just personally I understand it. I understand why not everybody 537 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: tries to have or why everybody likes I understand why 538 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: not everybody can easily jump into that proper analytical phase 539 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: of talking about this. People know that people, people understand, 540 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: people know what they're where all the time, understand but 541 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: it's just hard to like then channel into like a 542 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: direction where you understand what needs to change through it. Like, 543 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: so don't link all that together. But so I had 544 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: a story that came up, um that I wanted to 545 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: run by you. That's kind kind of related to, you know, 546 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: changing systems and stuff like that. I don't know if 547 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: you saw this viral video, but the Sunrise Police Department 548 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: in Florida is probing a sergeant who allegedly I mean, 549 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: I gotta say allegedly, right, but I mean the sis'll 550 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: tape I saw that they could do anyway they had. 551 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: They had a suspect that was had a It was 552 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: a you know, white officer, black male suspect was in 553 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the back seat of the patrol car handcuff. They're the 554 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: this veteran officer of twenty one years, giant, big dude. 555 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: He apparently came in the tape that was released. The 556 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: sound and audio was was out, so you couldn't hear 557 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: what was being said, but this was confirmed by the 558 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: police chief later on. He came into the scene. He 559 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: escalated the situation and then he pulled out his pepper 560 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: spray and was getting ready to spray the handcuffs suspect 561 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: in the back seat, and a newer female officer like 562 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: immediately grabbed him by the belt and pulled him away 563 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: from the suspect, and he immediately grabbed her by the 564 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: neck and slammed her and gets the car in front 565 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: of all of her colleague. Um, he's been he's been 566 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: placed on i think nonpaid administrative leave and and in this, 567 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: in this regards to, you know, the props of the chief, 568 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: the chief of that particular precinct has come out and 569 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: it has been like, yo, she did the right thing. 570 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: This is a disgusting So I don't you know, I 571 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: don't think they're but it's really it's really blatant and 572 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: really obvious. I mean, he he grabbed like his first 573 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: instinct is to grab her by her throat, you know 574 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And he's like a giant dude and 575 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: she's like a regular sized woman. And it's just like 576 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: it looked like he's kind of used to grabbing women 577 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: by the people. And I always trying to tell me 578 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: when like I'm on my ship, you know, I'm on 579 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: one about shit. Like, oh well, people always use these 580 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: like stories from other places to like say we need 581 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: to make change here. We don't really have these problems here. 582 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: But like, first of all, these always different police departments 583 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: get the same kind of go to the same kinds 584 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: of conferences, get the same kinds of training. There we 585 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: have we have, you know, the police, the police chief 586 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: of one city will go to another city, or or 587 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: a police officer get fired from one city and got 588 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: another city. A couple of years ago, we had this 589 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: dude that like ran like a suspect over with his car, 590 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: didn't even know if it was the right dude, and 591 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: like got fired and just went to the next county 592 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: over and he um and and they could fucking suit 593 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: the county for wrongful dismissal and defamation for saying that 594 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: he shouldn't have hit the guy and got like like 595 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: half a million dollars. But anyway, that's beside the point, 596 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: although I do want to use that to explain that 597 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: um the Athens Clark County police chief announced today that 598 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: he is leaving and explains that I have no comment 599 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: on the matter because I you know, how like okay, 600 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, how like you can't give a negative reference 601 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: for an employee, like it's it's illegal. A lot of 602 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: places like you either like just don't do it, or 603 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: you have to say something positive or it's like defamation 604 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so you can't. You your old boss 605 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: can would be like so I'm just gonna say that 606 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: and leave it at that. But anyway, so yeah, so 607 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: you get like police officers that go to different precincts, 608 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: go to different places. You get this these national trainings 609 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: that all of them go to and come back to you. 610 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: So it's like a like a national only systemic thing 611 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: as well as the kind of people that want to 612 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: get into law enforcement. And so that ship is wild. 613 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: That ship, that ship is just wild. I mean, that's crazy. Well, 614 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean we we were just talking about personal responsibility 615 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: and people inexplicably doing things on camera and on social 616 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: media that are like inexplicable. But I don't know, it 617 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: must be you know, maybe maybe somebody way smarter than 618 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: me is most likely analyzing this ship. But there's gotta 619 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: be some sort of terminology for the phenomenon and still 620 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: doing it. Anyway, First of all, too many fucking cops 621 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: do that ship? Too many teenagers do that ship. Let's 622 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: keep it real. Too many girlfriends just going to not 623 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: not paying attention to that. Um what else you got? 624 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: The sucking the people who stormed the capitol? Do you 625 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: know how many people storm the capital and the next 626 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: day called the lost and found to say that they 627 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: lost ship inside FBI? How can I help you? Oh 628 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: you left your bear miss and Nancy Pelosi's checks are 629 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: you real quick? And they put you on hold and 630 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: it's like knock, knock, knock, it's a swat team. It's 631 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: thrown smoked maid in the house. And people are on 632 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: live streams like in the middle of riding like, oh, dude, 633 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: I just got in a fight with some cops. That 634 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: ship was dope, son, Yeah, man, we bear mass this 635 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: one cop. He's on the ground. He was bleeding as 636 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: this is. That's and then like interested, they're like, oh, 637 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: how did you guys catch me? Like I will also 638 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: say that pretends to the earlier debate, Um, they didn't 639 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: touch fun. A lot of folks that do wild shit 640 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: like this, not all of them, but particularly time where 641 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: it's like a shot yesterday ha ha. Like even if 642 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: they don't express it. They express a lot of bracketdocio. Yeah, 643 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: and the ship. There is a mindset of disposability that 644 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: people have where it's like my life doesn't mean ship anyway. No, 645 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Like everybody, fucking like the whole system thinks I'm worthless, 646 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: So why don't not fucking shoot a guy on a camera? 647 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: Like everybody goes to jail, Like everyone thinks I'm gonna 648 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: do something like that anyway. Fuck it. So back to 649 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: that a little bit, not to excuse that not you know, 650 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: it's personal, personal choice ultimately, but like another part of 651 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: like understanding how we fucking get here in the first place, 652 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: where you're shooting a cat in the back of the 653 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: head and don't not shut well, I mean, what do 654 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: you think of that? What do you what do you 655 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: think about the notion of It's like, yeah, it's a 656 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: personal choice. It's just I don't think I think that 657 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: we can have an opinion of whether or not it's 658 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: a good choice or not, you know, I mean, or 659 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: another or whether or another right choice. Like I mean, 660 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: not that you're saying that we shouldn't, but you know 661 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: that's why it's like I always I feel, I feel, 662 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: I always feel like a sense of conflict on on 663 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: these sort of topics just because you know, my father 664 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: worked for the State Department when I was a kid. 665 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: I've yeah, I've got family and law enforcement and ship 666 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: like that, so I know i'd always you don't want 667 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: to give full disclosure, you know, I definitely have that 668 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 1: sort of you know, connection or indirect connection or whatever 669 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: you want to call it to these things. So it's 670 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: like just to before we move on, just to stress. 671 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: I just I always just try to like put myself 672 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: in other people's shoes just for the merely for nothing 673 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: other than just the exercise of understanding where other people 674 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: are coming from, you know what I mean. So it's 675 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: like I understand why some people perhaps may have like 676 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: a bit more lead more right on these certain issues 677 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: than perhaps I do, you know personally, you know what 678 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I just I just feel like like 679 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: like having like having that understanding and not just necessarily 680 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: assuming that it's because they're a ship, live or right 681 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: wing or you know what I mean, is helpful in 682 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: the discose. Yeah, yeah, I would love to understand the 683 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: underlying conditions that brought this cop in Sunrise, Florida to 684 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: just like be so aggro that he not only bear 685 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: Mason's handcuff suspect, but choked his visit fellow officer. Officer, Like, bro, 686 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: how do you guess at that point, like it really 687 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: looked like some you know, roid rage because he's like 688 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: a jack up juice stuff. Do you know what I mean? 689 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: It looked like some roid rage type of like unstable 690 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: ship for a twenty one year vet. So I mean, 691 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, public defenders, any case that this dude 692 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: has worked, I need to read this. I'll need to 693 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: re examine that ship, bro, Like tomorrow, it's gotta another 694 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: story I think we got. I was gonna think you 695 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: think we should just do one more? Yeah we can, Yeah, 696 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: we can do this. So back to wondering how the 697 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: fund did people get in the situation that they're in 698 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: perpetual ship get in her Kanye West is going to 699 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: Russia to me with Vladimir Putin so UM. On Tuesday, 700 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: January Levin, Billboard reported that Yea I planned on going 701 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: to Moscow to meet with the Russian President and hold 702 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: multiple Sunday services UM as its first ever shows in 703 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: the country of Russia. As ultimate purpose for the trip, 704 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: Um was to begin expanding his businesses overseas, and an 705 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: advisor to Kanye told Billboard that um Russia is going 706 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: to be a second home for Kanye, which I'm sure 707 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: the libs are absolutely losing their mind about, or they 708 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: or I could see if the white people, if the 709 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: white ones even knew this was happening, they probably don't 710 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: follow music news. If they found out, they probably completely 711 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: lose their minds because of Russia Gate, Wold Trump Russia ship, 712 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: Uh that people still, you know, I think frequently, and 713 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: I believe I've discussed this on the show before, whether 714 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: the Russia Gate hysteria opened the door for challenging election 715 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 1: integrity and ultimately what happened on January six, I don't think. 716 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I hate, I can get another topic that's 717 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: going to force me to be so one on the 718 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: side of the lives. But I don't know. I'm not 719 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: necessarily I would not classify myself as being in on 720 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: Russia Gate hysteria or whatever whatever, but I tend to be. 721 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: You know, if it looks like a duck and it 722 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: quacks like a duck, it's a damn duck, you know 723 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. So like, if if motherfucker's is like 724 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: having clandestine meetings and hotels and this and that, and 725 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: wild motherfucker's is going to jail for lying to this 726 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: and lying to that. And then every time they're accused, 727 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: their number one thing is you don't have the evidence 728 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: to prove that, as opposed to saying no, I didn't 729 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: do it. I'm just not inclined to think that they're innocent, 730 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: you know. So that that's just that's just the basis 731 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: of how I going Now, however else this wants to manifest. 732 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: You know, I don't necessarily think having that view means 733 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: that you want world War three with Russia tomorrow, you know. 734 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: But with the Kanye situation, it's just interesting because it's like, 735 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's like some pretty fucked up homophobic 736 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: laws that are like in the book in Russia. Bro. Yeah, 737 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: the U. S. Department like they currently lest Russia with 738 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: like a level four do not travel advisory given terrorism, 739 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: harassment by Russian government security officials, arbitrary enforcement of local 740 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: laws you and Russia's on the brink of invading or like. 741 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just yeah, it's just like I I um, yeah, 742 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: the whole that's weird. It's again it's it's Kanye, So 743 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, weird goes in the book with it. But 744 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: it's just another addition onto this like right wing drift 745 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: in this like plausibly deniable right wing fascist ship culturally 746 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: that's going on in this country that I think, you know, 747 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: wittingly or unwittingly, sir, celebrity figures are playing into. And 748 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what this is because because to me, 749 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: it's like that's always you know, for the last like 750 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: five six, seven years, that's always been like my suspicion 751 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: of what the Republican infatuation is with Russia. Now, you 752 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, which is why I just I 753 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: don't care what lives are saying. Yeah, I really don't. 754 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: I'm looking at what Republicans are doing and what they're 755 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: saying themselves, you know what I mean. So if if 756 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: when I if like when I was in like early college, 757 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: if Republicans were like itching at the bit, like we 758 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: hate Russia, we hate it, we hate it, we hate it, 759 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, no, 760 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: we love Russia and Russia is awesome. No, it's great, 761 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: we love it. Yeah, No, Putin would be a better 762 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: president than an American president blah blah, we love it. 763 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just not inclined to look at 764 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: that and be like mm hmm, I can't stand Hill 765 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: reclap like no, no, I mean, like I'm I just 766 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 1: feel like there has to be a line somewhere because 767 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: like I mean, I've seen this one left. We talk 768 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: about this in the to Turn this election. You see 769 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: this to this day with like Bernie Sanders supporters said 770 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: the election was stolen, like when you let that, like, 771 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes when narratives like that are allowed 772 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: to flourish, like they are taken up and when even 773 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: when they are legitimate and but people kind of run 774 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: away with them, like it does open up like this 775 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: grounds on which you can contest any kind of flaw, 776 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: you know, like actually any sort of working of democracy 777 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: as such that you don't whose outcomes you don't like. 778 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: But do you think that this is not similar to 779 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: the like argument about the you know, the filibuster thinks 780 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 1: exactly the Republicans saying the Democrats loved the filibuster, butant 781 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: we were in power now they hate it, and it's like, yeah, 782 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: well fuck you got. I don't know, they like if 783 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: you don't have some consistency, they'll call you out. But 784 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: I think again, it's just a matter of like whether 785 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: you think Republicans are operating in good faith or not. So, 786 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and like, so for somebody who 787 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: doesn't believe so, for somebody who genuinely believes that, hey, 788 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: Republicans would not be talking about the election is stolen. 789 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: The election is stolen if people hadn't brought up Russia 790 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: Gate and that hadn't been a big story. If somebody 791 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: believes that, then I understand totally why you know, you 792 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: would look at like Russia Gate with this like skeptical 793 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: like sort of thing. I don't believe that. I think 794 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: the Republicans are gonna like link between Russia Gate and 795 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: January six. I'm saying, like over and over again, there's 796 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: there are these competing tensions between factions where like when 797 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: you lose, you say they cheated, Like no one ever 798 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: fucking just loses because they sucked. They just lose because 799 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: the other people cheated. Um, and so like I don't know, 800 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, also coming from someone that thinks that the 801 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: Left needs to play dirtier because other motherfucker's area are 802 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: willing to cheat. Yeah, it's like like the Republicans are 803 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: just they are willing to do what they feel they 804 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: need to do to attain power, and they are not 805 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: concerned with what Democrats are going to do or not do. 806 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean. 807 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 1: I here's here's what I'm saying. If the Democrats don't 808 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: break the filibuster, the Republicans will the same way. We're 809 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: like pussyfooting about with the Supreme Court. No, we don't 810 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: know if we want to do the Supreme Court. No, 811 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: maybe I should. We shouldn't push this issue for this 812 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 1: person to retire so that their slack can get filled, 813 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: because oh, we don't know. That's all assuming that the 814 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: Republicans aren't gonna be craving when they get the opportunity 815 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: to you know. So it's all projections. So if if 816 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: we if we funk around, like not believing them when 817 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: they say the ship that they're gonna that they're gonna do, 818 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: and the ship that they're into, like the election, you know, 819 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: election to disputes. I think that that was coming regardless 820 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: because they were disputing the election in before any like 821 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: before anybody was really talking about Russia before the elect 822 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: before election even happened, they were talking saying, oh, it's stolen, 823 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: you know. So I I look at that sort of 824 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: thing that was always going to be a part of 825 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: their playbook, and that they don't need any excuse, you know, 826 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like us being like like 827 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: people who are on the left being like, oh, man, 828 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: the January six writers need to be held accountable. The 829 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: state needs to come after the We can have whatever 830 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: objections that we have with it, but I don't think 831 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: that one of those objections should be. Man, you know 832 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: what if we keep pushing for the state to go 833 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,959 Speaker 1: after the January six rioters, then the Republicans are gonna 834 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: come after us the next time that we have a 835 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: BLF march, like like they're gonna, you know, like the 836 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: minute that they get the minute again. They had unmarked 837 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: black van snatching people off the streets, but they had power. 838 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: I don't think you need you even need to say 839 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: more about that. There was no conservative voice, there was 840 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: no speed free speech warrior, none of them had any 841 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: objection to it. You didn't hear Joe rogan sation about oh, 842 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: why are they snatching these protesters off the street with 843 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: fucking ice agents from Texas that were in Portland for 844 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: some strange reason. Why is that happening? Why Why are 845 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 1: unidentified a jack booted thugs snatching demonstrated on the street. 846 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: They didn't give a funk about that ship when it 847 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: was happening, the Antifa guys, so they're they're ready there 848 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: with the ships. They're ready to use the state to crush, 849 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: to crush the scent, you know what I mean. And 850 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: if if if Democrats keep going with ship, assuming whether 851 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: it's Democrats or whether it's like people who are more radical, 852 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, If you assume that the 853 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: Republicans are playing the game the way that we are, 854 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: I just think that's how we lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 855 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't mean. You just got me thinking 856 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: about using the state to crush people. Perhaps closing, I 857 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: will circle back around to this particular quote that stuck 858 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: out to me from an MLK speech I listened to 859 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: on Monday. It was the speech at the National Conference 860 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: on New Politics in Chicago, and MLK said, I think 861 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: it might be a little flight paraphrase, but more or less, 862 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: um is poverty and unemployment rages in the black ghetto. 863 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: The bipartisan responses, an anti riot bill instead of an 864 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: anti poverty program. And it just really hit me because 865 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: literally last week I was talking about the police chief 866 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: quick this week, well last week it was mentioned last 867 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: episode I had some choice awards for him at the 868 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: meeting where I was like, I don't really want to 869 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: talk to you. I don't really trust you, you know, 870 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: bah bah bah, because in that meeting, you know, in 871 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: response for a year, for years now, decades now, even 872 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, the black community has been calling for investment 873 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: in our people, and you know BLM, you know, the 874 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: uprising was all about that, all about that, and here 875 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: we are about a year and a half later, and 876 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: their responses, Well, people didn't like that we use tear 877 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: gas on the protesters, so we bought a sound cannon 878 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: to blow their ear drums out and give them permanent 879 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: neurological damage. Um oh, and can we also give every 880 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: police officer a tactical rifle? So like literally today we're 881 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 1: still doing it. And like this is the bipartisan response. 882 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: It's not just like the right wing. Note like I 883 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: don't even say, like I don't even want to say 884 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: like democrats like want to use the state to crush 885 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: the scent, but like they certainly let it happen. Like 886 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: there's Democrats sitting in this commission meeting, like tactical rifles 887 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: forever bloy not blest, sound cannon blow out people's ear drums. 888 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: I well, you know, okay, sure, I don't know, like 889 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: why not? So yeah, I know you're oncent correct about 890 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: that ship. I don't know what it's gonna take, but 891 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: we gotta snap out of it somehow, Like you know, 892 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: it's it's really disappointing to hear that everything. You didn't 893 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: tell that story. You told that story last week, and 894 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: it was disappointing to hear because it's like the thing 895 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 1: after all of that marching and all of that demonstrating 896 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: and organizing, that a year and a half later, we're 897 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: talking about tear gas and chow colds. You know what 898 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's that's that's the change, that's the that's 899 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: the that's the that's the that's the systemic you know, 900 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 1: issues that were like you can't not like nothing gets done. 901 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: Just that's not like oh, politicians are just inspired and 902 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: go fight for ship. They fight for ship. They realized 903 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: they gotta do ship. They're forced to do ship by 904 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: like the masses of people organized and so like a 905 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: lot of people woke the funk up and they're like, oh, 906 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: ship changinging, make me like light bulbs going off everywhere, 907 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: and like that's not going, that's not you can't put 908 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: that cab back in the bag. And so yes, we 909 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: have not seen like in a substantive way, all of 910 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: that organizing and marching and getting you know, thrown to 911 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: the ground and Mason shipped like bear fruit. But those people, 912 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: those millions of people like dy an't go that cat 913 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: ain't going back in the bag. Tell you some now, 914 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna get interesting. But you know, here we 915 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: are today. All we can do is um, keep hope 916 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: alive and spit bars. I was gonna try to make 917 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: it rhyme and make a bar out of it. I 918 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: was gonna say, like, keep hope alive and slap it 919 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: on the black hand side or something like that. I 920 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Let's get you some real beats, real bars, 921 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: Joe Mariah said, piece and bars like go hard in 922 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: the paint and my roots is far Jeff Jarrett on 923 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: these rappers like a cheap guitar. I came up in 924 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: the flames and I keep the scars, but don't Missy 925 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: exceptly just one year old. They've been nice with the 926 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: flow sest the day kissed roll Up, but it got 927 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: me pissed. I watched Foxes, cannot be it. Keep m 928 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: ok Coast all about your Nazi lips. They try hard, 929 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: but it's nonsense. Reparations give us five stars in the 930 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: comment towards me, and I'll take a step backwards because 931 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't buy my hate this and what the fucking 932 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: hats so I asked to let past it and bet 933 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: about it. I'm passive, but that don't mean that I 934 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: am a cowward like Martin lu Mahatma Gandhi. I used 935 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: my words to set on my comflicts rather than try 936 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: to shoot you be cool Brooks around the stampasac than 937 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: to rock and a rather understanding did. I never haven't 938 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: tried to Yo yo, yo yo. My name is Dope 939 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: Knife with Franco and we are waiting on reparations. 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