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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast predicted this would happen. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas, coming to you from a virtual

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, right, Rosa Ball, and

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Speaker 1: Chris Whistling. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Yes, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Around the NFL Podcast. You've you've been

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Speaker 1: gone so long that you went and got new glasses

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Speaker 1: and you just knocked this all for a loop there,

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Speaker 1: forget about all the other subplots. You got some new

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Speaker 1: um bifocals. Yes, Beard's gone. Beard's gone. Glasses are on

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Speaker 1: um No need to wear contact lenses in a pandemic, really,

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Speaker 1: so why not go with the glasses more comfortable? Well,

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Speaker 1: tell us West, how are you feeling? Where are we at? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you back, and that's obviously a

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Speaker 1: good sign of feels like, tell the audience and and

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Speaker 1: your friends here, what's going on? Well, it's hard to answer.

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Speaker 1: That question is one that I have to answer quite

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Speaker 1: often because people care and they want to know how

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Speaker 1: how I feel, what what you know? What my status is?

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Speaker 1: And the answer is it's it's hour to hour, it's

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Speaker 1: not even day to day. So last week I didn't

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Speaker 1: have treatment. It was built into my schedule where I

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Speaker 1: ended up pulling out the big green egg, making some dinner,

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Speaker 1: much because I was feeling good. And when I'm feeling good,

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Speaker 1: I think, oh, you know, the doctor told me cancer

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Speaker 1: and I'll be feeling relief. Um, you know. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Keisha's Keisha's warning me a few times, you're doing too much.

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Speaker 1: You're doing too much. So I wake up today and

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Speaker 1: how I'm gonna feel pain wise. M And you are

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Speaker 1: starting treatment again this week West right tomorrow. It's every

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Speaker 1: a few fronts too. Because you mentioned in your your

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Speaker 1: neighbor was over and we got to see you briefly.

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Speaker 1: Dan and I did UM on Saturday. It was my

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Speaker 1: you're fighting battles on multiple fronts, that you have neighbors

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Speaker 1: now kind of making eyes at you at your wife Lakeisha,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a concern too, and you've got to

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Speaker 1: be spending them up. That feels like more of a

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Speaker 1: narrative than an actual concern. It was speculation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are some breadcrumbs to follow that this what seemed

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Speaker 1: like kind of a you know, fortunate bit of happenstance

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Speaker 1: that you ended up neighbors with a famous author. Well

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Speaker 1: maybe the intentions of said author aren't totally noble. That

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Speaker 1: that is one conspiracy theory, and um, well we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens over the next few months. I haven't like

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Speaker 1: from from being around said author. I have not picked

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Speaker 1: jump to their own conclusions. And sometimes those conclusions can

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Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, who's actually drumming up proof of this?

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Speaker 1: If if you don't, if you're not suspicious, well that's true,

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Speaker 1: I should get on the case. Maybe higher I'd stay vigilant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would. I would Dan. Dan really him up with

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Speaker 1: message that maybe West has to keep an extra close

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Speaker 1: and that's why it's the perfect time to strike if

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Speaker 1: you have illicit intentions. Wait, now the text message makes sense,

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Speaker 1: Like Dan, I think you were right. And the photo

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Speaker 1: cool video. And I don't know if you guys noticed

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Speaker 1: disturbing news revolving the Washington football team. Oh that's a

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Speaker 1: and other places want to hold that hope as long

429
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Speaker 1: as possible that you know, they all might not end

430
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Speaker 1: up playing in the end, and the NFL will just

431
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Speaker 1: have to adjust. It's to me, that's like, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty small part of the equation. Like I think both

433
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Speaker 1: things can be true. That it's basically impossible right now

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Speaker 1: with the virus as strong as it is to hold

435
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: college football, and that it's heartbreaking for these players you know,

436
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: you know that have worked so hard. Like both of

437
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Speaker 1: those things can be true. Of course, it's heartbreaking. Of

438
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: course they want to play for the most part, whether

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Speaker 1: it's safe or not. And you mentioned them rallying together.

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Speaker 1: This pack ten story of them, you know, asking for

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Speaker 1: what they've asked for over the last it's one of

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Speaker 1: the most fascinating in biggest sports stories I think we've

443
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Speaker 1: seen in our lifetime because it really I think it

444
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: is going to change the scope of what college athletics

445
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: is like in this country moving forward in the pandemic

446
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: will end up being like a big part in in

447
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: kind of kick starting that that process. It's incle I

448
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, it's incredible in two thousand twenty,

449
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: the college sports still are what they were years ago.

450
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: It's been overdue for a change for a long time. Well, it's,

451
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Speaker 1: you know, like Nebraska coach Scott Frost to one of

452
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Speaker 1: the you know that he he's came out. He just

453
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: talked before the show and came out very strong saying

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Speaker 1: we want to play and there's talk of the SEC

455
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Speaker 1: inviting other teams in. But he also made the point

456
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Speaker 1: that if we don't make our profits off of college football,

457
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Speaker 1: the school doesn't function. And that's that seems um at

458
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: like an imbalance. But you know, we're not college guys.

459
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Speaker 1: And Dan, I I hope you don't put are you

460
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Speaker 1: the new term is are you a corona bro? Dan?

461
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Speaker 1: Are you as one of those Well, it's it's sort

462
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Speaker 1: of the person who is um so hooked into And

463
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Speaker 1: I'm not at saying that you are. I'm just asking

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Speaker 1: you if you would, if you what you think of

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Speaker 1: the the tag so invested with that, Well, I don't

466
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Speaker 1: I would. I would say that I think none of

467
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Speaker 1: us are, but I think that we would be softly

468
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Speaker 1: put in that category with everyone else who tracks the

469
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: coronavirus is such a degree and there's this interest in

470
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Speaker 1: it impacting football and maybe we that we kind of

471
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Speaker 1: wanted canceled and all this other stuff. Nobody wants you right,

472
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Speaker 1: I mean nobody. I just think that's you know, we're

473
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Speaker 1: not Corona bros. We're just following the news that. But

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Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of reactions. Are you a

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Speaker 1: Corona bro? The answer is no, I am not an Okay, well,

476
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Speaker 1: I would like to think that none of us are,

477
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Speaker 1: of course not. I was amazed though there has been

478
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Speaker 1: a lot of reaction to this. It just shows how

479
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Speaker 1: important football is that look like one of our former

480
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Speaker 1: co workers, Albert Berre, I remember his tweet yesterday. It

481
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: was just kind of like, this is this is really

482
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Speaker 1: getting to be a sign that the country is not

483
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Speaker 1: handling this well. And I was kind of like, this

484
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Speaker 1: is what did it for you? But but without being

485
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Speaker 1: like dismissive in a in a jerk, It's like, I

486
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Speaker 1: actually think this will be what does it for a

487
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: lot of people that suddenly this is the thing that

488
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Speaker 1: they're pushing back, that they're like, wow, this is really

489
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: this is really like a problem. I mean, it's great.

490
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Speaker 1: Do you think people are gonna wake up because of football?

491
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's going to change people's behavior,

492
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: but I think this is an action that's being taken

493
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Speaker 1: place that they're like, oh, maybe this isn't Maybe this

494
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: is more serious than than we've been making it out

495
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Speaker 1: to be. People have no ability whatsoever to look in

496
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Speaker 1: the mirror. Greg stop. They are not gonna say, oh, look,

497
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Speaker 1: maybe I'll take it seriously now there with. This is

498
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: a sport without leadership, in a country without leadership, in

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Speaker 1: a populace where the people have adopted a world you

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Speaker 1: not based on reality. It's a huge problem. It's going

501
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: to continue to be a problem, right. My My point

502
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Speaker 1: is that this is taking away something really important to

503
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: them that frankly, maybe nothing else in this pandemic has done,

504
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: like yeah, your school, your kids schools are gonna be

505
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: way worse, and other certain things have changed, but nothing

506
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: is going to hit people as hard as this. I

507
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: think it's just it's just a sad fact. And in

508
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Speaker 1: the case that there is no college football, the NFL

509
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: is likely to act upon that. Pro Football Talk reported

510
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: yesterday that per source with knowledge of the situation, the

511
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: NFL will likely move games from Sundays to Saturday if

512
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Speaker 1: there's no college football. It's unclear whether the games would

513
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: be broadcast or streamed, or some type of pay per

514
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: view set up, but the league likely will look to

515
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: take advantage of that open Saturday window. And then I

516
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: saw a report from ESPN is Adam schefter Um who

517
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: pointed out even Friday night potentially on the table and

518
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: the idea that the NHL will be over in October

519
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: based Tuesday ball would be over in October. Uh, the

520
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: NBA season will be over, So the NFL would have

521
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: the entire sporting landscape to itself for the most part,

522
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: and they might and probably will, Mark make the most

523
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Speaker 1: of it. Is Daddy ever coming home? Well, Daddy will

524
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: be home. The question is where Daddy will be attending

525
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: to all this uh flurry of football action in one's home? Um,

526
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean I think four daddy's here are probably wondering

527
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Speaker 1: that you know, Greg, Greg, Greg, you for years, for

528
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: years this was mine was a dystopian America, which I'm

529
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: finding out the fantasy was not as rich as one

530
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: thought in his mind. You're gonna get in, Greg. We're

531
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Speaker 1: in Greg's world now, wonderful home with his family at

532
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: all times, and there's books everywhere, and there's football on

533
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: it all times, and he's able to handle it all

534
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: without even a grimace, just a peaceful smile in the sunlight.

535
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: Nothing I would have want less than football every day

536
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: right now that theory was made, but before my kids

537
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: were growing much less and my kids um home for school, Like,

538
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Speaker 1: I don't know, the the whole school thing is all

539
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: I think about, Like I don't know that. It's amazing

540
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: how that has so so little of the focus that

541
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: no one is like planning at all for these kids,

542
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: just like missing an entire the year of school. It's like, Dan,

543
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: I'll ask you a second question. I mean, if do

544
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: you think that at some point league officials high up said,

545
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, this is our this is our sort of

546
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: franchise podcast here they did very well, um broadcasting five

547
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: days a week, and they flex their muscles and said,

548
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: may maybe we could even throw in a broadcast on

549
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday if stuff happened, And they said they're

550
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: they're flexible. These guys can do this. Let's spread these

551
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: games over six seven days a week and take zero

552
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: into account what anyone covering the sport is doing in

553
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: the private life. I'm not sure what the question is.

554
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what the question is either, but I

555
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: feel like our league feels that we could handle it,

556
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and on our rodd shoulders much can be put upon

557
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: them a fine powder. That's what's happening in the news,

558
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: all right. As we said, Chris Westling has been out

559
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: of pocket on the podcast. When was the last podcast

560
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: you did with US west before your hiatus? It was

561
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: while you had paternity to leave and then that bled

562
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: into something more unfortunate. But when was that? What was

563
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: your last show? Wow? I think that would have been

564
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: late May born. So we got your back, buddy, We

565
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: got your back and always including what you may have

566
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: missed during your time away. So we're just gonna kinda

567
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: greg myself, Mark, gonna throw some things out there, just

568
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: get you caught up to date, and feel free to

569
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: chime in because I know you're you know, take machine.

570
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of thoughts and a lot of

571
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Speaker 1: opinions that you have not been able to kind of

572
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Speaker 1: change my Twitter bio take machine. So if you have

573
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: any takes on any of these news items as we

574
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: kind of spin through them or whatever they are, please

575
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: do Mark what you want to get us going? Actually, yeah,

576
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, we plan these over the phone sometimes and

577
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I got the full gist of what

578
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: the segment was about, but I do think that there's

579
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: something that West, because I'm imagining West is not watching

580
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: every or listening to every episode. Um a personal development.

581
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: I think at this point you'd be thinking that I'd

582
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: be frothing over the Brown's latest one year higher at

583
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: head coach, But um, I'm not. It's passed me by.

584
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't really care that much. We'll see how they do.

585
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: But all in on we well, I'm all in on

586
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: the chance that we had to chat with Matt Rule,

587
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: who is one of my pet projects at head coach,

588
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: and I think, um, you know he'll be feeling he'll

589
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: be fielding such mark. That's such a unique sesslers. Um,

590
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else on the podcast is the

591
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: way that you are with certain individuals that you really

592
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: do kind of tie your fortune to them. When Kyle Shanahan, Now,

593
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Speaker 1: I was gonna mention that Kyle Shanahan has now been

594
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: He's king of all oceans. Kyle Shanahan, I don't see

595
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: what's stopping him from becoming the greatest coach in the league.

596
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: So those two guys, that was a good one. That

597
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: was a good one. That was and he's been He's

598
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: encountered some choppy waters since then. But you also missed

599
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: West as none of us believing anything Mark says about

600
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: being somehow disconnected in some way to the Browns. But

601
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: that's not really a new development. That's like the last

602
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: in action. How many times have I stood up here

603
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: telling you how excited I am about it? Hit a

604
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: bastion these other two guys. Matt rule is fresh in

605
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, and Kyle Shanahan has just been proving it

606
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: since we began our show that he's the best mind

607
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: in in in in in the NFL. And when it

608
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: comes to offense country minds. We had Baldy come on

609
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: and he totally agreed. Know, I'm you know, I got

610
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: someone telling me you're right about that. Wait, Baldy greeted

611
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: you that Kyle Shanahan is a great offensive mind. Yeah,

612
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: it was the first question I asked him. Know that,

613
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I said, the number one, the number one in the NFL,

614
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: not just a great one, like the pre eminent mind.

615
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: So you have taken Matt role under your wing and

616
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: your pet project, and you're very excited about this. Well,

617
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: and I was gonna say that. We had a chance

618
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: to speak to Hi in person, and it was almost

619
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: like a little Debbie moment. For me where I I

620
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: squeezed a question out in between Greg telling that rule

621
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Speaker 1: that Dan and I hated his new quarterback, which threw

622
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: a wrench into the rapport of the whole thing. But

623
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Speaker 1: I attempted to recover se I don't even remember that.

624
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: I do, I was not really here for the some

625
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: of the last few months. All of this checks out.

626
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I believe exactly how it went down. I'm not sure

627
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: what that was, what the exercise was about here that

628
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Speaker 1: you want to get us. I need to know these

629
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: things because I have not been in every episode listener

630
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Speaker 1: of the podcast. Okay, I'll tell you just so you

631
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: know that the the Jets have developed one star in

632
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: the past ten years, and they traded him a few

633
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's twenty four. Just letting you know that

634
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: that was cool. Yeah. I was sorry I missed that

635
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: episode because the way you and you and Mark were

636
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: going at each other on Twitter, it seemed promising for

637
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: some actual fireworks. I thought it was pretty We were

638
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: pretty peaceful, Dan, weren't we and Greg and the three

639
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: of us tried to be I well, that was one

640
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Speaker 1: of my favorite moments of the off season, when the

641
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: rage that you had over the Jamal Adams trade actually

642
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Speaker 1: outpaced mind. But maybe I was just, you know, in

643
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Speaker 1: shock at the time. I don't know, but you were.

644
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Speaker 1: You had been beaten down by this situation for about

645
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Speaker 1: what a year and a half, two years, So I

646
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: feel like your perspective was now that all of this

647
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: has gone down, what they were able to recoup for him,

648
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: pretty good job, whereas I think Mark was coming from

649
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: all of this didn't have to go down that way.

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Speaker 1: That's well, sa Um, all right, go ahead, Greg, sure, Um.

651
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've missed, like I think, it

652
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: would have been a bigger story if not for the pandemic,

653
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: but it started bubbling up in recent days that a

654
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: little more that Aaron Rodgers has made it absolutely clear

655
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't mind the draft pick of Jordan's love at all.

656
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: He's totally cool with it. Um. He totally hasn't started

657
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: cataloging all the differences between his situation and Aaron Rodgers,

658
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: and in pointing that out the first second that he

659
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: gets like he he isn't holding any animosity towards the

660
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: front office for possibly thinking that he's done. He he

661
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: is just he's totally fine with it. He's living in

662
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: Greg's Los Angeles right now, He's in like Aaron's Green Bay.

663
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: Nothing is bothering him, Like, Nope, he's not someone who

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Speaker 1: would use slights at all to hold it against his organization,

665
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: and knowing what we know about his personality, you believe

666
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: approximately zero of that. Yeah, I mean he is it.

667
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: He didn't have west back. He's putting it all out

668
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: there in a way where it's almost like if he

669
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: could listen I feel like to the Kyle Brand podcast

670
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: um clip that we've heard that that that they put

671
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: out there, that if he could just re listen to that,

672
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: he would he would almost be like, oh wow, that

673
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: that comes off differently than I than I thought. I

674
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: feel like like I'm trying to convince I am convincing

675
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: no one. Um, but that's okay because I'm Aaron Rodgers

676
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: and I want to kill everyone. I feel like he

677
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: has a little bit of Michael Jordan in him where

678
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: he uses slights to such a degree that it's even

679
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: abnormal for an for a professional athlete. So I'm with

680
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: you on that. That's what like this karma like I am.

681
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's very into meditation and being peaceful, So

682
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: it's this weird sort of combination where he's projecting that,

683
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: but then inside it's a big time battle. I totally

684
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: agree with your take on this that that um, when

685
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Speaker 1: you're into that kind of meditation, it's a battle on

686
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: inside because it's against his nature. It's admirable that he

687
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: wants to be into meditation, but it's against his nature

688
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: to be so um laid back about this. If you

689
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: buy into the idea that motivation and the idea of

690
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: revenge or sticking it to somebody, even if it's in

691
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: your own front office, really can lift someone's game back

692
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: up to a level that you thought had been lost,

693
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: then you really do have to feel good about Aaron

694
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers this season because he is in that situation on

695
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: a whole another level compared to usually the way these

696
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: situations play out where it seems like the guys straining

697
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: a little bit to find motivation, he has every reason

698
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: to feel like they're kicking him out the door. And

699
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: the way the rookie quarterback contracts are set up, in

700
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: the advantages that they bring the Packers are gonna, I

701
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: would think struggle to come up with a situation where

702
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: he's on the team next year unless he's awesome and

703
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: then he could stick it to the Packers and put

704
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: him in a really tough situation, which be probably the

705
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: most beautiful thing of all for him than winning a

706
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Lamborti Lombardi. He also has to have noticed that the

707
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: football Cogni senty has finally kind of given up on

708
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: him as a top five guy. It took a while,

709
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: It took maybe a year longer than at least the

710
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: numbers would have indicated, But this was kind of the

711
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: off season where it became a little more conventional wisdom that, like,

712
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is good, but he's not a top five

713
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: type of guy anymore. And I and you suspect he's

714
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: aware of that too. I feel like, what three out

715
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: of the last four or four out the last five years,

716
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: at some point in the season, we've all had a

717
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers conversation? And if we have

718
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: one of those again, then he's gone, mm hmm, Mark,

719
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: you got another one. I mean, I think kind of

720
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: bridging off of that conversation where Aaron Rodgers was years

721
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: ago to now that the whole the whole quarterback landscape

722
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: changed a lot, and we had an episode um that

723
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: that we really wished you could have been a part

724
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: of because it was centered around the Alton scale. We

725
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: had Damn a check on and you know, I'd love

726
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: to get your take on this. I think that we

727
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: obviously we looked at where we were with the Dalton

728
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: scale a couple of years ago. Um, the the amount

729
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: of functional quarterbacks and the lack of teams with a

730
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: total black hole at the position changes that exercise? Do

731
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Speaker 1: you where do you? Do you have someone that you

732
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: could say he is the Dalton scale right now? We

733
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: came up with someone, if I recall, we kind of

734
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Speaker 1: agreed on someone at the end, but it wasn't an

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00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: easy home run. That's a good question. Um, Off the

736
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Speaker 1: top of my head, I think I might lean towards

737
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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. Um. I think we did too. That was

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Speaker 1: popular in our chat with Damna Scheck. But I did

739
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: listen to that episode because Keisha was listening and she

740
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Speaker 1: was laughing at such a frequent rate that I said,

741
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta hear the check performance at our takes,

742
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: at our analysis, at the whole thing. It wasn't just

743
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Speaker 1: check she was laughing at, it was the whole Is

744
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: it like annoying? You're trying to get away from the podcast.

745
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Then you have someone in your house listening to it. No,

746
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: it's more annoying when she listened to it went on

747
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: on because I don't when when I hear my voice,

748
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: I just want to like run to the other room.

749
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: She doesn't listen to any rival podcast that she no not.

750
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Speaker 1: She doesn't listen to any other football podcast she can barely.

751
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: She doesn't even listen to this one for the football

752
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: listen to this novelist next door have a podcast of

753
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: his own, I mean everyone else does that. She may

754
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: be listening to Finding Lakisha. He does not have one

755
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: that I know of, but Dan could be onto something there.

756
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: That's where that's the moment where Lakisha at home is

757
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: listening and be like, Dad, you did it again. I'm

758
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Impression um West, that's you know what,

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00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: Just to touch on that for one more moment. Obviously,

760
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Speaker 1: I've never met this person. I don't have the inner

761
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: workings of what's going on in your neighborhood. But it's

762
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: just like head on a swivel. Head on a swivel,

763
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: because if you're dealing with someone that is looking to

764
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: do what we think this person is looking to do

765
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: this would be the time where they would go for

766
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: it when you are in a compromise state. So you

767
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: just need to summon up whatever power you have in

768
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: your right now to make sure that this evil is

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Speaker 1: vanquished and right west don't If they're kind hearted and

770
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: generous to you, I'm sure that's all fine. But head

771
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: on the swivel is a good term there. I mean,

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00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: just speak a lot of plots, a lot of motivations.

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00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate the vice, the advice, but I would say

774
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: that he's a pretty smart guy, so he should be

775
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: smart enough to know that when he goes on the offensive,

776
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: he leaves his flank open. M interesting, just putting it

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00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, you come from you come for

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00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: what's mine. I'll come for what's yours. Priority list right now,

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00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: fighting back Priority list Number three you know, tape Talk,

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00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: get ready for another season. Number two battle that big

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00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: c in a big spot, obliterated once more. And number

782
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Speaker 1: one keep that homestead safe. Protect what I might put

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Speaker 1: I might put number two more at the top of

784
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: this than that. Well, number three feels like it could

785
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: fall down a bit if we feel like a big

786
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: drop between Tape Dog and in the Big Sea. But well,

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if there will be any tape to

788
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: dogs and we'll find out. Uh, Greg, go ahead, sure,

789
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: Um where should we go here? Um? I got a

790
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: few options, but I have noticed there's been less contract

791
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: I know you're not into the contracts as much, but

792
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: I started doing a top twenty five list for next

793
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: year's free agency. I mean, if if it's hard enough

794
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: to think about next week, try to think about next year.

795
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: It seems so far off in the distance that it's silly,

796
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: but you don't have front offices are having to think

797
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: about it. And the free agent list that I put together,

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00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: it's the best one that there's ever been. And the

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00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: salary cap space is gonna probably reduced by a significant amount.

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00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: And not many contracts have happened since you've gone. I

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: guess that's the thing you haven't missed. Basically, you missed

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00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and Patrick Mahomes are getting paid, and I

803
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: don't think any one else is going to before this season.

804
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: Maybe George Kittle, but it's just gonna set up this

805
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: situation I think where you look at the list of

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00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: players that are available and it's not just Dak going

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00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: every you know, going year to year kind of like

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00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: Kirk comes but Jalen Ramsey, Kenny Clark back, Dr Allen Robinson,

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00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: every single guy that got franchise tag this year, Keenan Allen,

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Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. There's this like it goes on forever

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Speaker 1: and ever, like forty players and I do. It is

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00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: something that's on my mind that next year is just

813
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna be like this year is gonna be really weird.

814
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: But it's not just gonna be like a one year effect.

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Speaker 1: No matter how quickly a vaccine comes out, like the pandemic,

816
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: whether it's the draft or whether it's free agency, is

817
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna like totally change to good for Bosa and and Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: who was able to parlay that new contract into a

819
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: percentage of the Kansas City Royals. Um. But it does

820
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: seem like it be a little imprudent right now for

821
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: a GM to be locking guys up long term when

822
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: we have no idea what's gonna go on next week,

823
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: much less next month and next year. So uh, it

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Speaker 1: does not surprise me at all that guys aren't getting

825
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: paid right go ahead, sorry, I find it interesting to

826
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Speaker 1: call it the best free agent class you've seen because

827
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's more balanced. But we've just come off

828
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: a free agency period with like seven high octane quarterbacks

829
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: moving in a situation that I don't think I've ever

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00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: witnessed before. Yeah, that's fair. There's like at this point

831
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Speaker 1: there's like eight or nine really good wide receivers like

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Speaker 1: Godwin Cup, Alan Robinson, Gala day t Y Keenan out

833
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: like there. It just had other positions and and the

834
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: guys like Cam and Philip Rivers that were free agents

835
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: that were kind of the biggest names to move other

836
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: than Brady. Um, they'll be free agents again. It's just

837
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: like it's a lot, But I know front offices are

838
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: probably thinking that way and that the guys who got

839
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: the money now are unique Like my homes took I

840
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: think an incredible hometown discount. Just the way that that

841
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: deal was structured to get that done and then Bosa,

842
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, the Chargers had a lot of money

843
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: to spend. Um, so may me that's what got that done.

844
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: What did you do kind of your first work through

845
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: of the free agent list, Greg, like one exactly over

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00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: the last week. It's coming out today. Yeah, like two

847
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, Mark and I went through it. For the

848
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, well it's you know, it's not even

849
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: worth connection at this point because this this pattern. Where

850
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: where is that? No, it's internal. It's just we kind

851
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: of we chop up tape, we dog it out and

852
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: uh and look at the list and talk to different

853
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: people inside the league. We started this process two weeks ago.

854
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: So just right, Greg, just to give you like a

855
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: quick snapshot what what happens is Dan will run through

856
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: tape of you know, hundreds of defensive players. I'll handle offense.

857
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: But then we'll do it. Well, we'll flip so that

858
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: we'll see where our notes combined. Where did von Miller

859
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: end up on yours. We're not sharing that because it's

860
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: going to become part of your article by tomorrow morning.

861
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: It's already filed. Let's try jump into the CMS and edited.

862
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: We know how this works. Do we still have to

863
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: see mess Did I miss that? If we don't have

864
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: a password, do it. Um, I'm gonna just run through

865
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: a quick list of things in case you missed any

866
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: of this stuff. West alright, Uh, the Davian Clowney still

867
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: doesn't have a job, so you didn't miss anything on

868
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: that front. Well, yeah, that's a little surprising. I thought,

869
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: once the football have we have? Have we started football?

870
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: Let's not got there soon. I think it's starting later

871
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: this week. Football is starting later this weeks are really started.

872
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: I maintained. Clowney has an up and signed because of

873
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: his knee history, the microfracture, and maybe once the football

874
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: starts then we'll see him. Logan Ryan is still unemployed.

875
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: The cornerback million dollars. You know what, we should try

876
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: that negotiations and see if it goes better. At NFL Media,

877
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson West, Russell Wilson goes by Mr Mr Mr ulamited.

878
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: He goes by Mr Limited. Now what yeah, see this

879
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: is why West really has no context. I love what? Why? What? What?

880
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: It's like Antonio Brown called himself Mr Big Chest. What's

881
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: going on with this name for yourself? Well, because sometimes

882
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, you think that Russell Wilson's going to Pete

883
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: Carroll for advice. No, he's going to Mr Unlimited because everybody,

884
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: everybody West, everyone has an alter ego now and he

885
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: needed one too, And everybody thinks, oh it's just Russell.

886
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: It's a robot. No no, no, no, he's Mr a Lamb.

887
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: Well and also he created that nickname two years ago,

888
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: so he's been Mr Unlimited for the past two seasons.

889
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Just if you want to address that in your tape watching.

890
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: So when will you speak of him? Should we speak

891
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: of his ego or his alter ego? I I will

892
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: refer to him personally as Mr Alammited now, okay, but

893
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: that's up to you. Let's see, the Giant's first round

894
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: pick last year might be going to prison for a

895
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: decade or so. Derek Carr said he's sick of everybody

896
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: picking on him. Uh. Baker Mayfield announced that he is

897
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: quote moving in silence this offseason. Man. Uh, good job,

898
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Mark Big Bend. Big Ben is kind of skinny now,

899
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: but you know, like skinny for Big Ben. Lashawn McCoy

900
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: can throw his ladies only parties in Tampa now because

901
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: his teammates with Tom Brady and Gronk. Oh, Gronk would

902
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: definitely go to a Lashawn McCoy ladies only invite party

903
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: like the good old thing. Totally. I'm getting major. I'm

904
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: getting major. Defense going to be better than the offense

905
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: vibes in Tampa Bay. I mean this idea that you're

906
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna sign with Sean McCoy, You couldn't even make it

907
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: off the bench with the Chiefs. Come on, well, the

908
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: whole back their whole backfield had Corona about a week ago.

909
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting to see how this all shakes out. Yeah,

910
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna evaluate the names, not the game, not the

911
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: name for this offense in Tampa Bay. A lot of

912
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: names being thrown out there. I was, oh, I like that.

913
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: And finally Wes Travis Kelsey confirms breakup with girlfriend Kayla Nicole,

914
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: but he angrily denied cheating accusations that this has been

915
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: a big topic in the Westling household. We are we

916
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: are fans of Kaylin, a cool kesha and very very

917
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: nice gal who was dating Travis Kelsey. Society girl. She's

918
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: like anybody else have anything else? I have one. I

919
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: can't believe this isn't hasn't been brought up. But Wes,

920
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: your name, um, you know, and it's been a while.

921
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: The last time this happened in the newspaper. Your name

922
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: appeared in the Gatesville Messenger down in Texas a couple

923
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Well, that story. I saw it on

924
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Instagram game Dan a shout out on my instant story.

925
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: You know it's not every day you get front page

926
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: of the Gatesville Messenger, in front page of any newspaper.

927
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a big accomplishment. Well done, Dan,

928
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Thank you Wes that that was kind of I was

929
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: going against current on my own podcast with Cessler and Rosenthal.

930
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: But it's nice to hear someone with a non cynical

931
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: just like a take, like a friend. So thank you

932
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I mean, I feel like I'm I'm giving

933
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: you publicity. I'd don't think that was a shot. I

934
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: would point out that the writer could have included Erica's name,

935
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: but that's that's um, that's for another day. Maybe the

936
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: writer wasn't. Well, I don't. I didn't want to. I

937
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: don't want to bring it up. But I got an

938
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: idea of Mark, when you get on the front page

939
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: of the paper, you can mention Erica. Well I was.

940
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you you included my name in there, thankfully.

941
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised you did. But I'm thrilled. Just

942
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm strilled to read the article and find my name

943
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: in there. So oh, Marks a rapper. Now that's the

944
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: other thing I saw the Estonia clip. Two thumbs up.

945
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: Well done, been nice knowing you swept the nation over

946
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: the weekend, or part of the nation or part of

947
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: a town. Anytime you could put Marcus Hunt in the lyrics,

948
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: it's a good one. I did want to point out

949
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: while you were gone. Um, the Atlanta Falcons, They're a

950
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: team that still exists. They have not been mentioned one

951
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: single time on the podcast, I believe in three years

952
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 1: now so something. So they're in a division with two

953
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: great teams and one team that looks really bad but

954
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: has a fun coach, but they still exist. How about

955
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Broncos fans are angrier than ever at Dan for dismissing

956
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. But I've I've watched enough Drew Lock that

957
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be great. No, you

958
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: haven't watch enough Drew Lock, as he's only played five games.

959
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: But let me finish. I'm saying I've watched enough to

960
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: say I don't know if he's gonna be great or not.

961
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: But I've watched enough now to say I'm excited to

962
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: watch whatever he does next. And I've kind of come

963
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: along to in the meantime to wear a corner that

964
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: West was on the whole time, which was appreciating Daniel

965
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Jones too, um, and it took a little more, a

966
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: little more tape dog and to get there. But the

967
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: Broncos fans are now now now they're on my side

968
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: of the corner too with you. That's a nice way

969
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: to put a bow on the segment because this Broncos

970
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: discussion is like it encapsulates what the off season of

971
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: the NFL is. We knew all this stuff in December,

972
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: that he's only had five starts, that there's some good,

973
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: that there's some bad, that Broncos fans are way too optimistic,

974
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: that doubters are way too pessimistic, and we'll just have

975
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: to wait and see what happens. But yeah, that's that's

976
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: where the Broncos are. That's where they've been since December. Yeah, Broncos.

977
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Drew Lock can't be a good

978
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: quarterback in our league. I just have been kind of

979
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: taken to task for insinuating the possibility that maybe they

980
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: should have had a backup plan in place that was

981
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: a little stronger or maybe not. Just assume you now

982
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: found your franchise answer based on December football that didn't

983
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: really matter. I don't know. That's just remind me again

984
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: who is the backup quarterback. Yeah, I think it's a

985
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: good idea in the NFL to have a second quarterback

986
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: who can play and won't like nose dive your season

987
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: as soon as he gets in there. But you know,

988
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: so I'm on Dan side on that one flip side.

989
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we've you know, John always gotten a little

990
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: bit of heat. A few jokes poked at John Elway

991
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: on this show, and maybe he feels an extra bit

992
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: of pressure to have his eighth the eighth quarterback he

993
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: picked um finally pan out in the draft here, So

994
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: maybe he said, I'm not gonna bring him Newton in

995
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: and create all that side interference in traffic to make

996
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: this podcast out there get about the Broncos fans. This

997
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: would be a huge three sixty windmill windmill dunk by

998
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Elway on the old Zeuser. If Drew Lock turns into

999
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: a star, will like straight out of the Gate Week one,

1000
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: he shreds whoever they're playing and then just like rolls

1001
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: to second team All Pro or something. You know, I'll

1002
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: take that hell and I'll be happy, uh that the

1003
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: people of Colorado and surrounding territories will have a young

1004
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: man to watch for the next ten fifteen years. I

1005
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: was gonna ask Greg. Greg just walked off for a second.

1006
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: Someone and it's not my house because it's quiet right now.

1007
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: But one of the fathers right here has lost control. Yes,

1008
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: that's right now. This is the first pod I've done

1009
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: with them here in a while because they because he uh,

1010
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: he was out of the house, Um during this time

1011
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: of day. And yeah, it's gonna be this season is

1012
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna be something. I mean, I think at this point

1013
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: Walker should have been mentioned in the Gatesville Messenger. He's

1014
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: had a prominent role on this episode here. Walker carries

1015
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: a lot of power in that. I'm impressed that he's,

1016
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: you know, in five years he's been able to, like

1017
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: a crew, a ton of power and he's never I

1018
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: started to teach Um Walker a little bit about wagering

1019
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: on Saturday at Hank's house with some dollar bills tied

1020
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: to catching footballs and the idea are double or nothing,

1021
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: And then I realized he was probably taught this while

1022
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: he was stole in the wound by his father. Well,

1023
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: it was a great move. I'm gonna steal this, this

1024
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: whole move that you have of giving the dollar bills

1025
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: to your friends kids because he's got to remember that forever.

1026
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: He came home telling Emma about it. You made his day.

1027
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: He's got the you know, he's got the two bucks.

1028
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: He made the couple of catches, you know, under pressure.

1029
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: So that's good for all around. It all worked out.

1030
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: It's a good grown up move. Carry a couple of

1031
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: singles around just to throw it, you know, keep the

1032
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: kids entertained. I'm a veteran uncle at this stage. And yeah, um,

1033
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: all right, West, do you have anything else you want

1034
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: to add, you know, at the end of your first

1035
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: show back in quite a long time. Well, I just

1036
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: want to thank all the listeners, especially the UK listeners

1037
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: who put together a YouTube treat for me, fifteen minute tribute.

1038
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Very nice. Um. And I've gotten a lot of message

1039
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but especially on Instagram. A lot of people

1040
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: have i would say, even much more personalized messages now

1041
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: and then there were a few years ago. It's been

1042
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: very um uplifting, to say the least, So thank you

1043
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: to everyone who's reached out. It's it's it's it sucks

1044
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: that you have two separate incidents or times in your

1045
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: life now to be uh be able to sight that way.

1046
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: But at the same time. It's just it's good to

1047
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: see again like how much you're loved by the listeners

1048
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: west and loved by us. So this is uh again

1049
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: a real treat that you joined us today. And hopefully

1050
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: this becomes a semi regular thing that would be awesome. Well, yeah,

1051
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna write off

1052
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: any show. I hopefully I'll be able to do them all.

1053
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Yeah, but i's how I'm feeling that day.

1054
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: But we'll see. He's gotta go and watch watch the

1055
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Reds later today. You know, I think they have an

1056
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: off day, which means they're bullpen won't blow the game.

1057
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: Hopefully they all stay in their hotel rooms or wherever. Um.

1058
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, that's a real concern. That's the world. Hell,

1059
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: thank you to everybody for listening. Wednesday, we'll be with

1060
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: you again. We'll be talking some of the hard knocks Premier.

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