1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. I get it that it's convenient something 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: that works improperly, but it's a convenience thing somehow that 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: always comes around to bite you, the car Doctor. You 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: know what, gathered parts while you can, because once they 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: stopped making parts, if you still want to fix it 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: across your whole lot more. Welcome to the radio home 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. 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Podcasting available 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: at Tune in my Heart and iTunes dot com. And 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: if you need me during the week, ron at Car 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com. And I'll do my best to 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: answer each and every one of you. Is uh I 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: would have been known to do. I will pick up 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: the phone and Okay, now what do you want to 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: talk about? And sometimes it's surprises somebody at work and 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: you never know when that's gonna happen. But when I 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: have a three minutes, sometimes it's easier just to talk 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to you direct. Two thousand Volvo S forty come into 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the shop at our Automotive and the customer de gribed 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: it that the idle speed was so high they didn't 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: have to touch the gas pedal the entire time they 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: drove over from their house about six and a half 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: miles away. They just let the car pull itself all 41 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: by itself. It was a self driving car. Was it 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: a different kind of repair? Welcome to the repair of 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: the week. Like I said, a two thousand Volvo came in. 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: The idle speed was real high. And customer was actually 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: afraid to drive the car, and I understand why. The 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: check engine light popped on about halfway over naturally when 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: I got in the car, not so much and it 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: behaved itself, and I drove it around the block and 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: everything seemed normal, and it it just it's just it 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: was just okay. So I decided it was time for 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: a little bit of technology. Technology is a good thing 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: in some ways. And we talk about technology and we 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: have concerns about it, but technology, within its limits, if 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: you know what you wanted to do, it becomes a 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: game you can you can tame the technology and teach 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: it if you things are two. I got out my 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Launch X four thirty one pad, and I want to 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: talk to a little bit about graph and graphing scan 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: tools are are really neat. They're used in the right potential, 60 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: used in the right opportunity, in the right placement. They 61 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: really will help you fix the car. I got out 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: my Launch X four thirty one and that's the Pad one. 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: They also have a Pad two, which I just happened 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: to grab the Pad one for whatever reason. Not that 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with the two, but I'm just know 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: that they have a pad one and a pad to 67 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: both great scan tools and went into this Volvo, went 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: in and you know, connected to it Bluetooth wireless, which 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: is really nice that and you know, I just realized something. 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: If Launch has the ability now to connect via Bluetooth, 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Launch my one of the few manufacturers that can connect 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: to the new cars when they go Bluetooth technology because 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Launch actually has it in place already. That's kind of 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: a neat observation. But we'll see where that goes in 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: the coming years. But anyway, and this two thousand Volvos 76 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: forty stay on track run and it had an intermittent 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: fast title and an intermittent check engine line. I went 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: into scan it for codes and the launchpad reported back 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: an e c M DASH fifteen fault or a problem 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: in the cool intempt sensor. And that actually made sense 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: to me, because an e c M fifteen or a 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: PIZ in everyday layman's terms, is a fault in the 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: cool attempt sensor circuit. And when a Volvo of this 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: generation sees that fault, it will actually bump the idle 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: speed and turn the fan on all the time. So 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I felt that now I had a symptom that matched 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: a condition that matched a customer description. Now I just 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: had to see it happen so I could capture it 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: and figure out the course of action. I started this 90 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: conversation by saying, I was gonna talk about graphic graphing 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: is the art of, or the the function of. You're 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: gonna take a number, so let's say the number is 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: a D nine in terms of engine degrees. You're gonna 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: take a hundred degrees and put it on a flat 95 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: line graph. You're gonna see, you know, on an xx 96 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: X access chart. My algebra and geometry, you're coming back 97 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: to me and mostly algebra from high school. And now 98 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: I understand why I had to take it. I had 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: to take algebra to become an auto mechanic, folks. And 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: you're watching it on an X axis parallel, and I'm 101 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: also graphing the engine cool up, cooling, startup temperature, engine temperature, 102 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: and rpm. And I took the car for a rod. 103 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: And the launch tool really makes it easy because that 104 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's wireless, it's Bluetooth wireless. You can set 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: it on the seat next to you. They give you 106 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a nice hanging bracket. You hook it, you know, set 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: it up in away. You go about eight minutes into 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: the rod, all of a sudden, that cool intemp centor 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: of all of a sudden, bang drops out to minus 110 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: fifty four degrees. The car went berserk all of a sudden. 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: The cars run under of three thousand rpm, the cooling 112 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: fans running all the time, and I've got a car 113 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: that's hard to control, and I'm a couple of miles 114 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: away from the shop. Shut it off, went out, looked 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: under the hood, didn't see anything obvious, got back in, 116 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: cleared the fault because I said, I bet if I 117 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: cleared the fault, it should put it back into a reset, 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: provided it's not a hard failure. Cleared the fault, and 119 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, it did exactly what I thought it 120 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: was gonna do, and I was able to drive back 121 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: to the shop. Step two was doing the exact same thing, 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: using the launch scan tool, but also hooking a d 123 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: v O M up to the cool attempt sensor. When 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: the scan tool glitched, I had my digital Vault dome 125 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: meter on freeze frame or on freeze and min max 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: capture so I could record the change of voltage. And 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: I saw the scan tool drop and the digital vault 128 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: dome meter go from two and a half vaults to five. 129 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: It went open circuit. So I knew that I had 130 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: an issue with the cool intempt sensor. I did a 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: couple of the things. I looked at connectors, I verified 132 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: the ground and in the end, because of the technology, 133 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: because of what that launch tool brought to the marketplace, 134 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: I was able to actually diagnose that in roughly thirty minutes. 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: And that's what makes technology so great in the terms 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: of the technology and using it to capture because otherwise 137 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna end up having to Can you imagine trying 138 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: to capture this in an environment where you can't see 139 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: things going on all the time, It really becomes an issue. 140 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: UM put a cool attempt censor and it put a 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: thermostat and if you ever do this repair this is 142 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: on the little four cylinder of Volvos and a lot 143 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: of the five cylinder Volvos are the same way. If 144 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: you ever do this repair the cool intempt censor and 145 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: this is the cool intempt sensor under the thermostat to 146 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: a thermostat in the car too, which brings me to 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the bad side of technology because a lot of the 148 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: information for the replacement sensor said it was supposed to 149 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: be at the far end of the cylinder head, which 150 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was under the thermostat housing. And I 151 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: learned that into two thousand. They were here in two thousands, 152 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: somewhere here, somewhere there. And you know, you say to yourself, 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: you understand why Volvo is in the straits that they're in, because, uh, 154 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: they're just they're just sometimes they're just strange. And there's 155 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: no other way to say it. But um, I just 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: wanted to point out that sometimes technology works to your 157 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: favor and UH able to fix the car in a 158 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: very quick period of time, which makes for a very 159 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: happy customer. Hello and welcome Ronan any in the car 160 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: doctor here zero nine nine zero zero, here to answer 161 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: your questions and talk about your repair of the week, 162 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: whatever that might be. And you know the funny thing 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: about that Volvo is she had taken it somewhere else. 164 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: It was a regular customer, well sometimes a regular customers, 165 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: sometimes not, and they weren't able to duplicate it and 166 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: could I and would I? And am I able to 167 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: when it really came down to not that I can, 168 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: But I trusted my tools and the launch tool really 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: gives me the fastest reaction time. I should point out 170 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: to if we're talking about graphic information with the scant 171 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Will you know one of the neat things about launches 172 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: they let you customize your display. So I had I 173 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: had a choice of four pages of data, bits or 174 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: pieces of information. And one thing I've learned over the years, 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and if you want to take advantage of the processor 176 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: that's in that scan tool, and the launch has a 177 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: great one and it actually runs an XP Windows operating 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: system in that it it will the less pits you 179 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: put up, the faster response rate you get. So just 180 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: looking at three pieces of information starting cool intemp ending 181 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: cool intemper or current cool intemp and RPM. And the 182 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: reason I put our PM up there is because I 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: want to make sure i'm seeing I'll give you a 184 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: little another little trick here. The reason I always put 185 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: our PM up when I'm graphing something because I've had 186 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: situations where if the car is sick, it will lock 187 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: the scan tool. And if it does, if I don't 188 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: have the RPM change there. If I'm looking at cooling temperature, 189 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: and I'm saying, if that's all I'm looking at, how 190 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: do I know if the scan tool burps and it 191 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: locks itself up. If the RPM doesn't change, let my 192 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: foot off the gas. I I know something's going on, 193 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: so I always put RPM up there with coolant pis 194 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: when I'm doing something like that. But just point out 195 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: that the least amount of pige you don't need to 196 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: look at everything, visualize the repair, think about what you 197 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: want to do, and that helps you solve it quicker 198 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: because less pigs means faster reaction time. Eight nine zero. 199 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm running in the car doctor. I'll be back right 200 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: after this. Dot cam welcome back. Why don't they need 201 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: in the car doctor to come on and sit down? 202 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk zero nine zero zero. Let's kick the garage 203 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: doors wide open and go talk to Micah from Portland, Maine. Michael, 204 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? How 205 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: are you doing? Ron? Well? I'm calling because it's my 206 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: super Legacy is now a year old. It's very low mileage. 207 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: It's only got seven thousand miles on it, but it's 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: time for its third oil change because I did the 209 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: first one of a thousand miles is recommended by a 210 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: car doctor. I know, um, and I'm wondering besides the 211 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the oil change. I know I need a lou boil 212 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: and filter. I want to have them balance and rotate 213 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: the tires, and I need to replace the cabin air filter. 214 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: What should I have the dealership do? And it's got 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: to be the dealership because I'm paying them extra to 216 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: make sure they maintain it and they are a reputable shop. 217 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: But I just want to be able to follow up. 218 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: And how many miles we're on at micah less than 219 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: seven thousands? Well, you know if it's a year, and 220 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: it's a year, right, yes it is, it's a year, 221 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna do a cabin filter. I would 222 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: do a tire rotate, obviously, they're gonna do an oil 223 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: change and filter, and a general lookover nuts, bolts, anything loose, 224 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: anything out of play. Uh, good chance to observe the 225 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: suspension after a year of main roads and uh you know, 226 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: see what the winter was like and what it might 227 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: have done to the chassis. But there's not a whole 228 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: lot more than that, you know. As a precaution, I 229 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: would probably just go through drive line fluid levels, you know, 230 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: even though they're nowhere is near ready to be changed. Yeah, 231 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: you just don't know what might have happened. Was it 232 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: properly filled at the factory? Was it really right up 233 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: the level. It's just a good chance to get underneath 234 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: and take a look around, you know, like I always 235 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: tell you and I tell everyone else, an oil change 236 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of situations is much more than just 237 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: oil and filter. It's a good chance to observe what 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: kind of shape is the car in. And you know, 239 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt to take a look taken after five 240 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: ten minutes, and maybe in some cases it's a little 241 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: bit longer to check fluid levels that they're not all 242 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: five ten minutes, But it's just a good chance while 243 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: you're under there to look around. Somebody sent me an 244 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: email during the week. I'll preface it like this, Mica. 245 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me an email during the week from another 246 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: guru expert who talks about how oil changes. You know, 247 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: extended oil changes are okay for cars, and ten thousand 248 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: mile intervals are good, and fifteen thousand mile intervals are good, 249 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: and you know, the three thousand mile oil change is 250 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: no longer really part of the landscape. How it doesn't 251 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: qualify the problem with that line of thinking, and there's 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things wrong with it. And I won't 253 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: repeat what I've said so many times here on air. 254 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: But the problem that's wrong with that line of thinking 255 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: is most cars, after they've got four thousand miles on 256 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: that oil change interval. The manufacturers in the owner's manual 257 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: talk about checking oil level on a regular basis, nobody 258 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: does that, and and and getting littled into this, My 259 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: car doesn't need anything mentality, you know it. It doesn't 260 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: pay off well as the vehicle ages. So you know, 261 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: I say to everyone, change the oil whenever you want, 262 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: but keep in mind the oil change. It's really a 263 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: good chance for maintenance and to look around and observe 264 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: and prevent the problem before it happens. Yeah, it's I'm 265 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: just gonna say, it's not just an oil change. It's 266 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: kind of like, as long as you have it already 267 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: up on the jacks, you might as well change the oil. 268 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: But it's correct, correct. But what people also don't understand, 269 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I think, is that it's not just three thousand miles, 270 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: six thousand miles, ten thousand miles. It's that or six 271 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: months or three months or whatever it is, and you've 272 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: got to look at it either whichever comes first. That's 273 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: when it's time to do it right. And that's and 274 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: that's the issue that people fail to see. Mike. I 275 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. I'm backed up on calls. Let me 276 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: take some others. But you hang in there, buddy, and 277 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: let us know how it works out if they if 278 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: they have any questions after you're done, you give us 279 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: a call back and let us know what we can do. 280 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Sammy out in Pennsylvania some issues with water in the oil. 281 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: It looks like, what can I do for you? Sam, Yeah, 282 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: the oil is turning milky. Okay, Um, it sounds like 283 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: and this is gonna be a three point eight leader 284 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: V six I believe. Okay, this is probably a classic 285 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: example of a failed head gasket. This is what they 286 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: normally did. Some of is gonna have to diagnose this 287 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: from the perspective of a head gasket. One of a 288 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: couple of ways. Uh. The simple method, depending on how 289 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: badly it's failed, would be, when the engine is cold, 290 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: make sure the radiator is filled with coolant, take the 291 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: radiator cap off, hood up, radiator cap off, crank the 292 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: engine over disabled the ignition. Either pull the plug to 293 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: the module or this shouldn't have a coil. This should 294 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: be I believe this was just a straight module with 295 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: d I. But if it's got an ignition coil and distributor, 296 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: pull the wire to the coil disabled the ignition cranking around, 297 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: does it pump coolant out of the radiator with the 298 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: cap off? If it does, when it's called, that's a 299 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: sign that there's pressure from the combustion chamber leaking into 300 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: the cooling system and you're physically pushing and burping the 301 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: air out of the radiator. Sign of a bad head gasket. 302 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Typically they fail head gaskets on cylinders one and two 303 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: right in the middle and between five and six. It's 304 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: the first two on the back bank or the last 305 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: two on the front bank. Very common for these to 306 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: eat up head gas gets and do exactly what you're describing. 307 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: What um anywhere from fifteen to eighteen real world money. 308 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: It's a big job. Top of the engine has to 309 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: come apart. Oh, you're gonna take no, not out of 310 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: the car, but you do have to take the heads off. 311 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: By the time you take the heads off, and again, 312 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you know what part of Pennsylvania. What's the shops labor rate? 313 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I'd rather talk in terms of hours. That's easily a 314 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: depending upon age and how things come apart somewhere between 315 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: six to eight or eight to twelve hours, depending upon 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: exhaust manifold studs how much rust is on the vehicle. 317 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: It depends on cooperation level in terms of dirty older 318 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: parts on an almost twenty year old vehicle coming apart. Okay, 319 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: all right, sir, but that's where I would be looking Sam. 320 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, and you're very welcome. Uh back 321 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: in the day we had I'll never forget. Oh gosh, 322 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: it's gotta be fifteen years ago when there were more 323 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: of those running around the three eighths. I remember one 324 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: winter it was right around the time that Ford acknowledged 325 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: they had a problem with those. And uh, just before 326 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: they admitted they had the issue, we were doing head gaskets. 327 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: I remember one winter I did fourteen pairs of those 328 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: head gaskets starting in November through the end of March, 329 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: I did. I did one or two every week. It 330 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: got to the point where I could do the job 331 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: in my sleep. It was just it was just crazy. 332 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: It was baffling to me. That's how I and I 333 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: still remember most of the numbers on how it works. 334 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: But very common fault that that head gasket would fail 335 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: just like that. And the issue was there's only ten 336 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: head bolts holding that down. They needed eleven, if I remember, 337 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: they needed eleven or twelve, because I looked at it 338 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: one day and I said, why are these always failing? 339 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: You needed a bolt between the two cylinders where the 340 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: clampload was the weakest, and that's why them, that's why 341 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: the head bolt would fail. With the head guess it 342 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: would fail just like that. Time you had a quick 343 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: question or a comment. No, I just said so that 344 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: what they had to do. I was gonna say that 345 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: what they had to do was actually go to eleven. Right, 346 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: They had to go to eleven, and they didn't, right, 347 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: and that was an issue. Right. Yeah, Now do you 348 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: have a comment? No, you had a comment before about Bluetooth. Oh, yes, 349 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: we were talking. You had mentioned, uh that the actually 350 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: we're coming on and they're gonna be timing it down 351 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: here we can talk about it after the break with 352 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: Bluetooth for scan tools. Can't they now hack into my car? 353 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: Oh there's a great question. I'll tell you what. When 354 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: we return, we're gonna talk a little bit about that, 355 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: about hacking into the vehicle and what sort of security 356 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: issues Bluetooth Technology presents. I'm on any in the Car Doctor. 357 00:18:43,760 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Don't go with first 358 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: sistring at the five and it's in the thing. What's 359 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: the summer of sixty? Hey, welcome backing the Car Doctor here. 360 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine zero zero is 361 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: the phone number. Looking for some answers to your car problems. 362 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Give us a call eight five five five zero nine 363 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. That is the Car Doctor seven number. 364 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: Call leave a message if we're not on the air. 365 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: We are live Saturdays two to four pm Eastern time. 366 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Fast Harry, our executive producer. We'll call you back. Line 367 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: you up and get you into the barrel for the 368 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: next go around. When we do this thing we do 369 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: every week we call the radio show for the best 370 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: twenty five years. Let's get over the line one. Talk 371 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: to Jeff up there and turn remains some questions about 372 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: an O four Chevy Silverado. Jeff, welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 373 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: How can I help? Well, thank you very much, it's 374 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you. Well. I appreciate that. What's going on. 375 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: I've got an old floor Chevy Silverado and I'm having 376 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: trouble with the heater controls. On it um it's either 377 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: very hot or very cold. I'll start it out warm, 378 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: turn it down about halfway, and then it goes cold 379 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: and I have to boost it all the way up again. 380 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: And then last uh summer, when it got hot, I 381 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: turned on the A C and it would blow okay, 382 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it would go full hot, 383 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: just on the driver's side. And I'm just wondering if 384 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: you think it might be that heater control unit in 385 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: the dash or is it deeper than that It could be, 386 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: but believe it or not. The first place I would 387 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: go with this is i would take a look at 388 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: a scan tool and I'd want to see what sort 389 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: of fault codes this has, because everything here, even if 390 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: it's has this got the sliders or is this automatic 391 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: A say it's got the sliders, even those, there is 392 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: no real mechanical connection. Every everything here is wiring pinouts 393 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and going through the body module, and you can have 394 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: issues with the blend or actuators. Passenger drivers saw it. 395 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: It's got two slides in the middle right one for 396 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: one for left for right regarding temperature, so you know 397 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna still be a response and feedback system. 398 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: It's looking for an input and output control. You move 399 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: the you move the temperature to you know, half scale. 400 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: It wants to see the temperature come out at half scale. 401 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: It's measuring and recording everything. So the likelihood of there 402 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: not being a fault code here when you see something 403 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: like this is pretty remote. Um, you know it's it's 404 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: I would start with but now you know, it's start 405 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: with scanning for codes. But when I say that, I 406 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: don't mean O B D two. I mean going in 407 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: manufacturer specific, so two thousand four Chevy Silverado and then 408 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: going into the bc M or the body computer or 409 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: if they have a separate h v a C heating, 410 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: ventilation and air conditioning module listed and talking to that. Okay, 411 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: all right. One of the one of the things I 412 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: like to do on all vehicles nowadays is whenever I 413 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: get it into the shop and i'm you know, somebody says, hey, 414 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: check the car out. We do this on used cars. 415 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: Now we do this on you know. We we have 416 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: a seasonal checklist that we do. It's a two page checklist. 417 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: To get your tongue and say, oh moment, as we 418 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: call it, uh, you know, we will sit there and 419 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: hook up a scan tool depending upon the flavor of 420 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: the car, and the majority of manufacturers allow us to 421 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: do this. We have a a full system, full vehicle scan. 422 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: We'll look at every every module on the car, who's 423 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: who's reporting what, and you'll find the pending problem, you'll 424 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: find the old problem, and you'll find the current problem. 425 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: By doing that, it's just a great place to start. 426 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: And it's it's it's why we like to do that. Here, 427 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: I got I got one for you, Okay, Jeff, real quick, 428 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I want you to think of I want you to 429 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: think about this in that I was at a seminar 430 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: this past week and one of the questions the trainer 431 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: came out with he said, let's talk about a diagnostic routine. 432 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Car comes into the shop, it's got a flat tire. 433 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: What's the first thing you're gonna do? Do you know? 434 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: Out of the six guys that he asked, we got 435 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: eight different answers, So, you know, a good diagnostic routine. 436 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: And this is my point, always has to start somewhere, 437 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: and for me in this day and age, short of 438 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: a flat tire, I'm always gonna start with a scam. Yeah, okay, 439 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: all right, all right, I've got a great mechanic up here. 440 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: I'll have him take a look at it. You're good 441 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: luck and if you need more help, you give us 442 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: a call. Thanks, Jeff, I appreciate it. Take good care. 443 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Tom West Nyack, New York and 444 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: see what's going on here. Tom. Welcome to the car doctor. 445 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: How can I help, Sir A good? What's cooking? Um? 446 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: I especially email regarding UM service in the moves on 447 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: my new Camaro. Um, I don't have to change my 448 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: oil until the service light comes on or one year. Yeah. 449 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: That's a great idea, isn't it. Uh? Yeah? Let me 450 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: let me ask you Tom, how much was that new Camaro? 451 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 1: Let's say that again. Forty seven thousand dollars. Wow. So 452 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: I don't have to change and tell the book tells 453 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: me that the light to take up until a year 454 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: to come on under the best conditions transmission fluid, I 455 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: don't have to change under normal driving conditions, I don't 456 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: have to change the change mission fluid at all. But 457 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: if I drive it under severe conditions, I should change it. 458 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you bought s S Camarat the baby. 459 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: Yes I did. Yeah, So you're never gonna go faster 460 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: than thirty five going down the story, get a quarter 461 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: milk I breaking breaking period. I can go up to 462 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: eighty miles and then and then after that all bets 463 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: are off. The card is the service on the star 464 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: as the stage the drive belt ten years hundred and 465 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: fifty see and I'll tell you what. We'll talk about 466 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: that real quick. So belts have really taken a major 467 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: change in the last seven or eight years. They went 468 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: from being one, uh this just a regular rubber belt 469 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: to e P d M, which is an extended mileage 470 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: rubber compound. And we don't measure belts by cracking anymore. 471 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: We actually have a tread depth gage that measures if 472 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: the VS on the belt are worn. And yeah, I could, 473 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: I could see a hundred thousand miles. You know, a 474 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles is generally a life cycle for a belt. 475 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: You Know what I do notice, though, is in year 476 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: six and seven, seven and eight, a lot of belts 477 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: start to turn color. The backing gets brown, they start, 478 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, they're starting to fuzz up. They're not quite 479 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: worn out, but they're getting there. And the fact is 480 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: that you're you're approaching that fuzzy edge. Listen, remember this, 481 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: I call it rule. If a manufacturer says a hundred 482 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: thousand miles, do it at eighty. Okay, it's it's a 483 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: good safe rule of thumb. The manufacturer says oil one year, 484 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: how many miles are they saying in that one year? Tom? 485 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: Uh the oil? Yeah, they don't, they don't. It's um 486 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: it's not even oil changes aren't even on the maintenance schedule, 487 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: so to speak. It comes on the rotate tires and services. Um. Um, 488 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: check your oil and your oil monitor a change oil 489 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: if necessary, which sends me back to the like right. 490 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: So they're basing everything on what the computer tells them, 491 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: and they're turning it into a real piece of machinery. 492 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: But when it breaks, the answer is gonna be oops. 493 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Either and either it's in warranty or it's out of warranty. 494 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: I have friends in dealerships everywhere, Tom, I'll end it here. 495 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: I have friends and dealerships everywhere. And the guys in 496 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the Chevy dealerships right now tell me they think General 497 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: Motors Motors is building the biggest bunch of junk they 498 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: ever saw on the marketplace. They're doing they're doing more 499 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: engine work and more repairs and more, you know, more 500 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: stupid things, as they put it, and I'm trying to 501 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: keep acclaim for family Radio. No intention, I have no 502 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: intention of waiting for the light to come on. If 503 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: it were me, it would be five months, five thousand miles. 504 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: That Camaro is gonna run hot all the time, especially 505 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: with summer coming. I would be doing that trans fluid 506 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: every fifty, maybe even every every forty, and I bet 507 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: come two hundred thousand miles, if you still have the 508 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: car that long, you'll still have all the original drive 509 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: train components, and you won't have nearly half the problems 510 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: with the people that are going to distance. Remember this, 511 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: if you got in the car and you drove from 512 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: New York to California at one steady speed and one 513 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: steady load and one steady temperature, fluids and filters and 514 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: everything lasts a whole lot longer. Other than that, all 515 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: the stops start, all the severe temperature changes, all that 516 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: takes a toll. And in my mind, from what I've 517 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: seen the past forty three years of wrenching, you're not 518 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: gonna see cars last nearly what manufacturers say they're gonna last. 519 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: All they're doing is lining up to buy the next car. 520 00:27:49,320 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: Zero zero zero the Car Doctors back right after this. Well, kids, 521 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: tonight I got the feels something right. I'm so scared kids, 522 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: I'll follow out, Yeah, welcome back. Weren't in the Car Doctor. 523 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: It is time once again this hour. I don't know 524 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: where time goes. So we're gonna go away into the 525 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: T shirt here toime. We're whittling down that pile of 526 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: ten thousand T shirts. That's good because yeah, I tripped 527 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: over it on the way in. Yeah, well I'm sorry. 528 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: That was my fault. I kind of left him. I'm trying. Well, 529 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, starting next week we're opening up the eBay 530 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: listing and we're gonna start to sell T shirts to 531 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: just to get rid of them because people want them. 532 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: We can't get them out of here fast enough. So 533 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. The ups I'll be busy, Yeah, 534 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: the upsk, I'll be busy. Er um, but any even, 535 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: what do you have for me this week? What's my 536 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: what's my Facebook question of the week this week? And 537 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: I should point out if you want a car Doctor 538 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: T shirt for free, go out like our Ronne in 539 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Facebook page, leave a question. If we 540 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: use it up here on air, we will be glad 541 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: to send one to you, and we'll reiterate like the page. 542 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: Don't like your question, right, don't like the question, like 543 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: the page. What's going on? Well? Mark Ready says, you know, 544 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: he listens every week, he listens to the podcasts, and 545 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: you spoke of the class discussion of the no start 546 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: condition with a key less system, and he's going to 547 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: assume that the car was unlocked Initially. The next thought 548 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: he had was, um, what can be done if you're 549 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: completely locked out of the car? Uh? With the O 550 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: B D two port on the inside of the car, 551 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: what are your options now? Yeah, and you know, Mark, 552 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think what everybody needs to 553 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: get familiar with is if they're driving a a keyless system, 554 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: meaning that it's a push button start vehicle. Look at 555 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: your key fop. I haven't seen one yet, but the 556 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: key fops all have a key somehow hidden. There's a 557 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: little lever that you're gonna switch and move to open 558 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: in a little tiny keel slide out and a lot 559 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: of people don't realize this. To your real quick funny story. 560 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: The general manager a very big radio station here in 561 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: New York, Uh, Tom knows exactly who I'm talking about 562 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: was was stuck recently and he was locked out of 563 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: his car, and he didn't realize that he had a 564 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: remote key, a remote access key inside to open the 565 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: door with A and B that he had a dead 566 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: battery in the vehicle. After I finally got the whole story, 567 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: it came out that, of course I also got to 568 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: ask him, g if you had a car show on 569 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: air that accounted for something, you could ask us these 570 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: questions all the time. But that's a whole another story. 571 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: But in reality, and my point is, look at your key, fop. 572 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: There will always be a key there to manually open 573 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: the door. Because Mark, you're right, the diagnosis has to 574 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: begin somewhere and plugging in and looking at the O 575 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: B D two port is a good place to start. 576 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: Button reality. One of the topics in class that night 577 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: was pulling the button, the push button out of the 578 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: dash and monitoring wire, monitoring the wires, the voltages out 579 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: of the wire, signals back and forth, because there's typically 580 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: three to follow four modules involved in a keyless entry system. 581 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Talking to the car to wake it up. Here comes 582 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: the key, they're opening the door at the button opened 583 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: the door? Is this really him? Is this really what 584 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: he wants to do. I mean, there's so much electronics 585 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: flying around. By the year, we're all going to start 586 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: the glow if we don't get the card to ruin. 587 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: But great question. Mark, send me your information Ron at 588 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctor show dot com. I'll be could to send 589 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: you out a Car Doctor T shirt and put it 590 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: in the mail myself this week coming. I appreciate the 591 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: likes and I appreciate the support. Real quick. Let's go 592 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: over to the phones and talk to Mike from Newport, 593 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Oh tou Honda accord and some questions about 594 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: a radio. Mike, Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can 595 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: I help? Thanks particular, I've learned a lot and you're 596 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: show over the years. Thank you. And uh Eily dal 597 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: friend of ours has the accord and one night the 598 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: radio came on and it won't go off, so it 599 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: killed the battery. Obviously he had the key out he 600 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: was off and she's had the time and key replacement done. 601 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: Um the warranty thing that came over on a recall. Um, 602 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: I guess my question is, um, what could radio to 603 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: come and that if she well, you know the the 604 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: simple answer is that there is a an improper feed 605 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: to the radio because the radio has to be powered 606 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: from something. I mean, the simple answer might be, oh, 607 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: it's a bad radio. But if you say, well it's 608 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: a bad radio, prove the argument. Show me where the 609 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: power came from to turn the radio on when the 610 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: key is in your hand. That doesn't that doesn't make 611 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: any sense. We have to look back at the source. 612 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: Just like the keyless entry vehicle I was speaking about. 613 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: You look at the push button for lack of power 614 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: to start the car. Here, I would be looking at 615 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: the ignition circuit. I would go to the back of 616 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: the radio and monitor the power line and look to 617 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: see is it hot. When this problem occurs, does it 618 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: still happen to this day? Micro was at a one 619 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: time event. Well she had it half of the several 620 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: times in uh they would jump start the car, and 621 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: of course it wouldn't go off and kill the battery. 622 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: So he took it to the local service guy and 623 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: he just disconnected the the radio and and she said, well, 624 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: can you fix it all out? Cost more money? So 625 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: she's wondering what is going on? Well, and I get 626 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: I get the part about it costing more money. But 627 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: my question is Okay, so it disconnected it. That's that's 628 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: no rocket science there. But is the fault in the 629 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: radio taking a wrong feed? Listen long and the short 630 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: of something's taking a wrong feed from somewhere. Either there 631 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: is memory power to the radio being diverted internally in 632 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 1: the radio that it's allowing it to turn on and 633 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: that's the fault, or the main power line into the 634 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: radio is getting an improper voltage from somewhere and that's 635 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: got to be diagnosed in back traced. And the fact 636 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: that the ignition switch was done, I'd look there first 637 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: because just because it was replaced in its new new 638 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: doesn't mean good new has never ever worked. Take a 639 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: look at that, Mike and explain that tour and we 640 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: can kind of go from there. If you need more. 641 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: Ron at Card Doctor Show dot com zero the car 642 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: Doctors back right after this welcome back. Do they need 643 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. Let's wind it up today. Let's go 644 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: over and talk to Lisa in Wisconsin. Two thousand three 645 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: niece on Central Lisa, you're on with the Car Doctor. 646 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: How can I help? Thank you for taking my question? UM, 647 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: I own a Nissan A two thousand three niece on 648 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: CenTra GFC and it's approximately a hundred three six thousand 649 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: miles on it. It's a one point eight lead four cylinder. Right, 650 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: and my question is, um, just out of nowhere, my 651 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: temperature will spike and when I go to pop the hood, 652 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: they're danna frees is either really low or it's really high, 653 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: and it's spraying out of the overflow. Right, it's overheating. 654 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: Sometimes the hoss pinched, right, I mean it's mean it's 655 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: it sucked shut. Yes, right, it's collapsed. Okay, a couple 656 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: of things are going on here. These are very common 657 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: for head gaskets. But before we go, there are two points. 658 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Be careful about lifting the hood of an engine that's overheated. 659 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to see you get hurt or anybody 660 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: get hurt because cooling system components under extreme pressure are 661 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: hot and if they burst, third degree burns. I was 662 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: seventeen years old when I learned that the hard way 663 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: on the New Jersey Turnpike. So that's number one. Number two, Um, 664 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: what's common with these if the hoses are starting to collapse, 665 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: and there's two things that come to mind for overheats. 666 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Get a look at bulletin e M zero four Edward 667 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Mary zero War double O two. It talks about or 668 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: you may find it under NTB zero four eighteen. It 669 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: talks about radiator cap failure and how you want a 670 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: better quality or a better radiator cap on it. That 671 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: all sorts of issues early on. That's number one. Number two. 672 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: Head gaskets are very very common on these cars to 673 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: be intermittent and cause the problems you're describing, so it 674 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: may be time for a head gas gets start where 675 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: the radiator cap go from there, I'm not anyting in 676 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: the car, doctor. Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.