1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Jaron, we begin with the latest of the criminal hush 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: money trial of Donald Trump. Jury deliberations will resume this 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: morning in Manhattan. We get the latest from Bloomberg Law 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: host June Grosso. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Before resuming their deliberations, the jury, we'll hear a readback 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: of testimony of Michael Cohen, the prosecution star witness, and 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: David Pecker, the former publisher of The National Inquirer. The 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: testimony concerns at Trump Tower meeting in twenty fifteen that 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: prosecutors say was central to a criminal conspiracy to Boosttrump's 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen presidential campaign. The jury has also asked to 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: hear the judge's instructions again in New York. June Grosso, 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Radio. 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: All Right, June, Thanks Willing. Overseas political news this morning, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: South Africa's ruling party looks set to lose its parliamentary majority. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: According to projections from the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research, 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: the African National Congress or ANC, is on course to 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: win forty two percent of the votes cast in yesterday's 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: national election. The calculations are based on early tallies released 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: by the South African Electoral Commission. Bloomberg's Gen Zabasaja says 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: it points to a possible coalition. 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: There's a lot of uncertainty right now. The worst case scenario, 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: in what some people were calling the doomsday scenario, is 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: potentially the ANC, the ruling party, having to be in 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 4: partnership with the Populist EFF which is very left leaning party, 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 4: wanting to nationalize banks and also mine. 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: And that's Bloomberg's zen Zabazaja, who knows that the ANC 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: has held on to power since the end of apartheid 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: three decades ago. 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, Karen, let's turn back to markets now. Treasury yields 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: are in the driver's seat for investors, near their highest 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: levels this year. Bloomberg's John Tucker joins us with more, John. 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: Nathan, the government's selling its debt and you don't want 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: the demand. Isn't all that great. Treasury's final auction of 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 5: the week a forty four billion dollar sale of seven 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: year securities that reinforced a trend of lackluster demand that's 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 5: pushing bond prices lower and the yields higher. Those higher 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 5: yields weighing on stocks in fassitors can also throw some 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 5: FED speak in the mix. The Atlanta FED chief Rafae 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: Albostik says he looks at the end of the year 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: as the time when the FED might actually be prepared 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: to reduce interest rates. He was speaking at a conference 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 5: in Atlanta, and we're going to end the week with 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 5: an important piece of economic data. The Fed's preferred the 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 5: inflation gage. Tomorrow's core PCEE deflator expected to show an 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: improving trend for for inflation at a two year yield 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: right now, down a basis point at Ford to ninety six. 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 5: I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you well. Plenty of banking news 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: this morning. Management changes coming at UBS, and we go 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: to London and get the latest with Bloomberg's U n POS. 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: Good morning, Karen and Nathan. 55 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: A management shake up at Switzerland's biggest bank, UBS is 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 6: moving its investment bank head Rob Kurowski to run its 57 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: US operation and with igbow Kahn Hill jointly oversee the 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 6: wealth business. Cohn will also become presidents of the Asia 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 6: Pacific region. The moves reinforced the bank's goal of expanding 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 6: in the United States, and it paves the way for 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 6: an interesting succession race for the UBS top job in London. 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 6: I'm un in pots Bloomberg Radio. 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Thanks you and well the guy who has the top 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: job at Wall Street's biggest bank, Jamie Diamond, says he 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: anticipates problems emerging in private credit that could lead to 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: a political backlash. The warning comes as JP Morgan Chase 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: and other lenders look to make increasing inroads into the 68 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: one point seven trillion dollar private credit sector. Speaking in 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: the industry conference, Diamond said he is particularly concerned about 70 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: the risk to retail clients as they gain access to 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: the booming asset class. 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 7: They have not been stress tested. People really fully understand 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 7: what he said about interest rates affecting what these things 74 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 7: are worth. Do they And little old lady finds out 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 7: that she can't get her money back and there may 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 7: have been disclosure. They're saying, you know, this money's locked 77 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 7: up for five years. But you know what, retail clients 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 7: that circle the block and call their centers and congressmen 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 7: and they could be held to pay. 80 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: Those comments from JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond come 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: after He wrote in his annual shareholder letter that the 82 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: private credit industry has yet to be tested by bad markets. 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, some of the country's biggest banks may have 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: a blind spot when it comes to their exposure to 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: commercial real estate. A new study shows the risk to 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: their balance sheets grows by about forty percent when you 87 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: include credit lines and term loans to real estate Investment trusts. 88 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Reads have faced challenges since the pandemic, with high borrowing 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: costs and work from home threatening the long term value 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: of office buildings. The trusts are obligated to make large 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: dividend payments each year, and they tend to draw down 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: credit from banks when they're worried about redemptions. That's a 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: concern for the researchers. 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: In company news, Karen, we're watching shares of Salesforce. They 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: are plummeting by six teen percent in early trading. The 96 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: company gave a sales outlook for the current quarter that 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: missed estimates. More from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 8: The quarter fueled concerns of a growth slowed down of 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 8: the software giant. Salesforce said revenue will increase about eight 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 8: percent to as much as nine point twenty five billion 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 8: in the period ending in July. Analysts, on average estimated 102 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 8: nine point three to five billion, according to data compiled 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 8: by Bloomberg. Investors have been concerned about Salesforce's sliding sales 104 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 8: growth over the past year as the company turned its 105 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 8: attention to improving profit in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg. 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Radio, all Right, Charlie, thank you. On the flip side 107 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: shares a Pellenteer at more than two and a half 108 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: percent this morning. The Army has awarded a four hundred 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and eighty million dollars contract to the company for work 110 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: on a project called the maven A Smart System through 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine. The deal further extends Pellenteer's relationship with 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: the military and makes use of the company's growing suite 113 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence offerings. 114 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: In another move, Aaron, the Biden administration's antitrust enforcers are 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: hosting a major event on competition in artificial intelligence, but 116 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: some of the biggest names in the industry aren't invited. 117 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: We get the details from Bloomberg's Jeff Bellinger. 118 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 9: Google, Amazon, Meta, and Microsoft have raced to partner with 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 9: leading AI startups, but they are absent from the workshop, 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 9: so is Nvidia. Its centrality to the global AI supply 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 9: chain has sent its stock soaring Instead, the workshop will 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 9: bring together top venture capital firms along with enforcers from 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 9: the US, the UK, and European Union. Assistant Attorney General 124 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 9: for Anti Trust Jonathan Canter says the speaker list was 125 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 9: intentional and the workshop's goal is for a thoughtful conversation 126 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 9: on AI antitrust. Enforcers across the world have become concerned 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 9: that many of the most promising AI startups depend heavily 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 9: on the dominant tech companies for their financing and infrastructure needs. 129 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 9: Jeff Bellinger, Bloomberg Radio. 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, thank you, and it's time now for 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: a look at some of the other stories making news 132 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: in New York and around the world. And for that 133 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 134 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 9: Michael, Good Morning, Good morning, Karen Harvey. 135 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 10: Weinstein may face new allegations of rape and sexual assault 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 10: when the former Hollywood movie Mogul is tried again in 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 10: New York. It comes after a state appeals court tossed 138 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 10: his twenty twenty conviction last month. The Manhattan District Attorney's 139 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 10: office says, since the last trial, other women have disclosed 140 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 10: being sexually assaulted by the defendant. Conservative Supreme Court Justice 141 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 10: Samuel Alito says he can't and won't refuse himself from 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 10: January sixth related cases. It comes after reports about the 143 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 10: flags that have been seen flying outside his homes. Alito 144 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 10: so congressional lawmakers his wife is solely responsible for flying 145 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 10: two flags associated with the baseless Stop the Steel movement 146 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 10: on two of the family's properties. Loyola Law School professor 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 10: Jessica Levinson. 148 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 11: These ethics codes are asking whether or not it might 149 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 11: appear to the public like a judge possesses actual bias. 150 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 11: You don't need to, in the words of the Supreme 151 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 11: Court opinions, actually possess the bias, but it has to 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 11: look like you might, just as Alito is saying, that's 153 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 11: not going to happen. 154 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 10: Loyola Law School Professor Jessica Levinson. The NYPD arrested and 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 10: charged demand with a slew of hate crimes, including attempted murder, 156 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 10: after allegedly trying to hit a group of Jewish teens 157 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 10: with a car outside a yeshiva in Brooklyn. Several of 158 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 10: them ran inside the yeshiva for safety. Police arrested fifty 159 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 10: eight year old Ashgar Ali from Brooklyn. A study by 160 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 10: a group which ranks US metro areas based on pedestrian 161 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 10: deaths finds that it is at a forty year high. 162 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 10: The nonprofit Smart Group America blames Rhodes designed to prioritize 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 10: vehicle speed over pedestrian safety. Beth Osborne is the group's 164 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 10: vice president of Transportation. 165 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 12: We spent many years trying to speed up automobile traffic. 166 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 12: The way departments of transportation have tried to do that 167 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 12: is to make roads ever wider, and that alone creates 168 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 12: safety challenges. 169 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 10: Beth Osborne with the SGA also says people of color 170 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 10: are disproportionately impacted. COVID's after effects may reverberate for more 171 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 10: than three years, often causing lingering pulmonary and gastro intestinal symptoms. 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 10: That is according to a study of US veterans. It 173 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 10: is in the journal Nature Medicine. Global News twenty four 174 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 10: hours a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg 175 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 10: News Now. I'm Michael Barn. 176 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Karen right, Michael Barr, thank you, but 177 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: it's time now for the Bloomberg Scores update with John Stanshauer, 178 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: John good morning. 179 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 13: Morning care of the Yankees are in first place and 180 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 13: a Cy Young winning pictures yet to take the mound. 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 13: Part of that is because the guy who replaced karrot 182 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 13: Cole in the rotation. This might be this year, say winner. 183 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 13: Louis Heel superb again against the Angels. He went eight 184 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 13: in inings, allowed only two hit, struck out nine. Didn't 185 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 13: get a lot of support, but gotten off and Alex 186 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 13: Forgogo home run on the fourth inning, and Anthony Volpi 187 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 13: came up in the seventh the six. 188 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 9: Line down the right field line. That's a sair ball. 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna go all the way to the curved wall 190 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: down the right field line. 191 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 14: Goopy motors around at a second He's going for three. 192 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 8: Here comes to throw to third gol pie slide. They 193 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 8: gets past third pace. 194 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: The throw goes into the camerawells and Boopie is. 195 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 13: Going to be awarded hole play for Wfan. Yanks tope 196 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 13: Angels two to one. He is now seven and one. 197 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 13: His era is under two. At Cityfield, Mets and Dodgers 198 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 13: were three to three. 199 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 15: In the eighth inning. 200 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 9: LA scored six. 201 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 13: Times, including the show how Tony home run Dodgers finished 202 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 13: the Swinge ten to three. Mets the Bosts fifteen of 203 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 13: their last nineteen oils at the Red Sox six to one. 204 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 13: Grand Slam for Gunner. Henderson Nationals won seven to two. 205 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 13: In Atlanta, the Phillies get the Giant six to one. 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 13: Salley got playoffs Dallas one game three after Trilling two 207 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 13: to nothing, Edmonton one game four for Trillion two nothinge 208 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 13: Oilers won five to two, and the series is tied 209 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 13: to two. As is the case in the East, set 210 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 13: in the stage for a big Game five tonight at 211 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 13: the Garden Rangers and Panthers, the first conference final in twenty. 212 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 10: Three years that have had three. 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 13: Straight overtime games. O Venegas sion Tics, the top seed 214 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 13: the two times Defenny Champ, had to play four time 215 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 13: Grand Slam winner Naomi Osaka in the second round. Osaka 216 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 13: just background Toura for giving birth. She had a match 217 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 13: point which Shiontech won seven six one six seven. 218 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 9: Pops Johns Dash went Bloomberg Sports count of niggas. 219 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 15: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 220 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 15: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 221 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 15: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning on 222 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 15: Nathan Hager. 223 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: We're headed to day two of jury deliberations and former 224 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's hush money trial in New York accounts. 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: Anybody's guess when the jury is going to come out 226 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: with a verdict. But no matter how it turns out, 227 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: this case is having a political enact and for more. 228 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: We are joined by Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill Ferries. Bill, 229 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: Good morning. We did see some developments as the jury 230 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: headed into the deliberation room asking to review testimony about 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: the August twenty fifteen Trump Tower meeting with Michael Cohen 232 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: and National Acquirer publisher, the former publisher David Pecker. What 233 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: does that tell you about where these deliberations could go. 234 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, Nathan, it's very interesting that that was really the 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 14: first thing that the jury came back to the judge 236 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 14: asking for a little bit more of a kind of 237 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 14: a refresher on in terms of what happened. I mean, 238 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 14: this was the meeting where David Pecker National, the publisher 239 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 14: of the National Inquirer, said that he agreed to help 240 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 14: the Trump campaign by boosting Trump and his newspaper criticizing 241 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 14: his rivals and basically buying and barying accounts of extramarital 242 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 14: affairs as they came up. So this gets right into 243 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 14: the heart of the payment to Stormy Daniels and also 244 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 14: the earlier payment to Karen McDougall, another Playboy playmate. So 245 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 14: very interesting it was. You know, that was some of 246 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 14: the earliest testimony in this case. So there's been speculation 247 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 14: that maybe the jury just kind of wanted to get 248 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 14: a reminder of what that testimony, what the details of 249 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 14: that testimony are. But it's also, as the prosecutor said, 250 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 14: a key event in their case against former President Donald Trump. 251 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: So we could have several more hours, if not several 252 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: more days of jury deliberations. But we did hear something 253 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: of a summation from the former president after the first day. 254 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of what he had to say 255 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: to reporters. 256 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 15: Mothers could not be these judges. 257 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 12: These charges are reggage to the all. 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 8: The thing is reggage. 259 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: Mother Teresa could not beat the charges. What's the former 260 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: president setting up for? 261 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 14: Well, you know, he's he on the one hand, will 262 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 14: say that he thinks he thinks he's doing well. On 263 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 14: the other hand that he thinks it's a rigged process. 264 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 14: He has definitely, you know, made the case to his 265 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 14: core supporters particularly that he thinks not just this case, 266 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 14: but all of the all of the cases against him 267 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 14: are part of the you know, a political process. That's 268 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 14: where the where the Democrats and his opponents have weaponized 269 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 14: the judicial system. And that's going to be the message 270 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 14: he takes if he's found guilty on any of these 271 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 14: charges or if things don't go his way, and it's 272 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 14: something that quite a few, you know, many people in 273 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 14: his camp will will agree with and they'll rally around. 274 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 14: So that's going to be the case. Now if he 275 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 14: is found guilty of this or any other case, you know, 276 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 14: there's going to be a big question of how much 277 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 14: damage that does or doesn't do to him. He's got, 278 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 14: he's got a strong base that's there. It's with him 279 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 14: through thick and thin. So the question will be, you know, 280 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 14: what happens to those independent voters, what happens to those 281 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 14: people who maybe don't like Joe Biden. Will they you know, 282 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 14: do they avoid the election or do they do they 283 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 14: just do they vote for someone else? But yeah, this 284 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 14: is this is the case that Trump has made throughout 285 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 14: this process that he is being unfairly targeted. 286 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: And I wonder what the president himself, President Biden, how 287 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: he could react depending on how things go. I mean, 288 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: he's towed a really fine line in really trying to 289 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: avoid speaking pretty directly about what's going on in New York. 290 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 14: Yeah, it sounds like it's something that he has spoken 291 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 14: more about in some of these less covered, you know, 292 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 14: fundraiser events where he's been more openly critical of the 293 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 14: of the president. I think, you know, from the White 294 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 14: House perspective, they they don't want to be seen as 295 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 14: they don't want to play into that argument that Trump 296 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 14: has made that it's a it's a political process, a 297 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 14: political persecution. 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