WEBVTT - Do You Feel Better? 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.840 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay F Daily with 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:19.760 me your Girl, Danielle Moody, recording live ish from the 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.919 pod Stream studios here in Times Square. I want to 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.000 pose a question to all of you, and it's something 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.400 that I have been grappling with for the last couple 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.640 of months, particularly coming off of this summer, and you 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:39.640 know this week is going to be the fall solstice. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:46.280 We're changing seasons. Here's the question. Has the election of 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:52.559 Joe Biden as president over the last eight months changed anything? 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.960 You see, eight months ago, we were all hanging on 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:02.800 to a hope and a prayer following the Insurrection, praying 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.160 to God that Joe Biden would win an election against 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.520 Donald Trump. We were all hoping that the masses would 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.880 show up and rid us forever of Donald Trump. And 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:21.520 what we thought at the time was also Trumpism that miraculously, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.600 after the election and the inauguration of Joe Biden on 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:30.880 January twentieth, twenty twenty one, that the Republicans that had 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.840 been supporting Donald Trump, that had been lifting him up, 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.400 and as we now know through the Bob Woodword book tour, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:42.240 that is happening. The military personnel that essentially worked as 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.880 his accomplices, you know, working behind the scenes, as General 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.360 Milly has said, you know, to make sure that Donald 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.360 Trump wouldn't start a nuclear reward just because he felt 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:56.920 like it. I'm wondering now, as we look at our 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:02.120 country in disarray, if it has actually made anything better. Now. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.559 A friend and colleague says, well, we have less anxiety, 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.639 we have less stress in the country isn't being run 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.600 by a madman. Those things are true. The country isn't 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.040 being run by a madman. But I don't know if 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:21.560 I have less stress and less anxiety right because every 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:25.160 single headline every day is about some catastrophic event, some 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:30.800 awful shooting, some rollback of rights, and it seems to 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.200 be raining down in the same way that we were 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.480 attached to Twitter and attached to the television over the 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.799 four years of Trump, just waiting for when that lunatic 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.720 was going to run this country head first into a 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.959 nuclear World War three, just because you know, he didn't 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.400 like how somebody made him feel that day. But here 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.760 we are, and I am not feeling great, and I 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.480 know that many of you aren't either, because you share 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.800 that with me on social media or in the DMS 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.320 on Patreon. The reality is is that I still have 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.160 the same amount of sleepless nights. I still need to 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.960 meditate multiple times a day to alleviate my stress and 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:20.840 my anxiety and frustration about the lack of control that 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.920 I have over the direction that this country is taking now. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:30.320 While I enjoy listening to Biden sometimes, as folks do, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.760 I enjoy the content of the things that he is 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.960 saying and what we need to have done. We need 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.560 to lower prescription drug prices. We need to make it, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.760 you know, childcare affordable. We need to make sure that 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.960 people can afford this, that and the other thing and 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.360 have good paying jobs, and blah blah blah. It's the 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:53.200 same fucking talking points that we've heard from Democrats since 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.440 the beginning of time, and yet we're in worse shape now, folks, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.120 than I think that we have been in quite some 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.440 time now. Just to be clear, I'm not blaming the 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.880 Biden administration for the shit show that they inherited and 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.120 actually chose to run for. I'm not blaming them, but 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.920 I'm asking the question, do you feel better that Joe 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.400 Biden is president and not Donald Trump? What have been 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.960 like the I don't know, changes that you can actually 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:26.240 articulate where you're like, if Donald Trump were still president, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.040 I would feel X. But now that Joe Biden is president, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.600 I feel why. I thought that I was going to 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.479 have a great sense of relief. I thought that I 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.279 was going to have to come up with new content 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.159 since I've been talking about the demise of our democracy 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.240 and the rise of fascism. I thought that I was 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.960 going to have to change and pivot course. But you see, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.599 I feel like we're moving faster in that direction than 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.800 we even were under Donald Trump. I feel like Democrats 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.560 showed more grit and fortitude when they weren't in power 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.280 than they are now when they are in power. Look, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.799 I know that the majorities are slim. I'm really aware 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.640 of that. And in twenty twenty two, you have fourteen 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.400 Democratic Senate seats that are up, and you have twenty 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.480 GOP seats that are up, and guess what, there's a 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.520 big probability that we're gonna lose the fucking Senate. But 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.359 the question that I will ask again is did we 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.400 have it to begin with? With a fifty fifty margin? 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:31.000 And you have Democrats marauding as fucking Republicans like Mansion 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.560 in cinema and others. It's like, is this as good 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.440 as it gets? Because if it is, I want my 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:42.400 fucking money back. You know, we talk about the same 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.040 issues and the same things, and I recognize that after 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.520 decades of being in politics, at this point, I realize 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.240 all we ever applaud, all we ever get to celebrate, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.640 is incremental change that with the wrong president or the 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.800 wrong congress in power, it's gone in the blink of 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:08.560 an eye. Barack Obama needed to roll out multiple, multiple 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.560 executive orders because he had a hostile Congress that he 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.039 was working with that wasn't going to help him in 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.640 any way or help the country better. Yet and here 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.200 we are again with the democratic president, and I feel 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:28.479 like he is more impotent now than when he wasn't president, right, Like, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.839 I feel like Democrats show more grits and have more 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.279 power and a bigger voice in commanding people into voting, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.440 into reclaiming their democracy than they do when they're actually empowered. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.400 So what does that say? How do you motivate people 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.480 to continue to show up for you to give them nothing? 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.400 It's been eight months, and yes, we have a vaccine 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.680 that we did not have eight months ago. I credit 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.599 doctors and scientists with that, but we also had greater 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:05.520 ambitions that at this stage that seventy percent of the 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.040 country would be vaccinated. And yet here we are with 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.600 Democrats once again caught off guard that the public is 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.800 not acting in the way that they thought that they were. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.760 And so the question that I have really is do 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:24.080 Democrats really know their constituents? Do they really know anything 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.320 about the public, because it seems that Republicans do. They 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.160 know everything about the basket of deplorables that are their base. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.800 They know how to reach them, they know how to inspire, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.000 raging them, they know how to move them to donate 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:43.960 more money to Donald Trump, right, And I wonder about Democrats, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.920 how are you surprised after four years under Donald Trump 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.000 that you are only able to vaccinate fifty four percent 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:56.040 of the country. Now, at any other time, I would say, hell, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.720 anything over fifty percent is great, Not when you're dealing 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:04.640 with a communicable virus. Right, you need more than half 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.120 of the people to recognize that science is a thing. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.760 But given the fact that we have seen, we have 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:15.440 watched in real time as this country has become more 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:22.840 and more divided, that we have seen how like just 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:29.800 misinformation can just turn this country on its head, right, Like, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.160 we see these things, we knew what was happening, and 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:39.160 yet we're still surprised. There should have been better things 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.000 that were rolled out. Right, then, oh, have a beer 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.400 and get a shot in the arm. You need to 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.480 understand how people work, the best of people and the 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.480 worst of people. And what I recognize about Democrats is 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.199 that they kind of function like fucking Mary Poppins wanted 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.199 to see the best in everything, swoop in and do 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.199 some dances, do some songs, and swoop out, and you're 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.280 supposed to be left feeling all warm and fuzzy. But 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.959 now that you're left to lead your own life without 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.200 the support of bananny, Like, are you really prepared? I 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:18.920 don't think so. Democrats are not prepared for pretty much 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:24.000 anything except for reaction, and in this moment in time, 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:30.320 we actually just need action. I don't like Republicans at all. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:37.720 I think that they're morals, morally bankrupt, and absolute fucking trash. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.960 But you see, they know how to get to people. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.200 They know how to move them. Unfortunately they move them 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.439 in the wrong direction, they're moving them off of a cliff. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.840 But they know how to get them going, can we 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:58.640 say the same thing about Democrats? Coming up next, friends, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.360 is my conversation with our good, good friend Glenn Kershner 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:07.040 to walk us through the latest legal nonsense and criminal 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.400 web that Donald Trump and his sycophants are continuing to 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:19.360 weave without accountability and responsibility. Friends, you know that I'm 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:23.720 always so happy when we have our friend MSNBC legal 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.200 analysts and host of Justice Matters Glenn Kershner joining woke 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.360 F two usher us through the legal lease and legal 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.120 webs that this country is in right now on so 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:39.120 many fronts. Glenn, this past week we watched crushing, just 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:46.400 devastating testimony from several US decorated A gymnasts about how 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:52.960 the FBI failed them during their time when Larry Naser, 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.440 the former coach who is now going to serve over 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:01.400 a century in jail, was abusing them. Many tips went 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.520 out to the FBI, and it is as if they 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.839 put that in a I guess a wastebin and just 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.040 let it go. What is happening with our FBI? Because 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.760 this is not the first, second, or third time that 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:21.000 we have heard about people reaching out with tips, whether 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:25.160 it be about Brett Kavanaugh and his line of alleged 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.280 sexual assault, alleged sexual harassment, or Larry Nayser, what is 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.640 happening here? You know. Let me start Danielle by saying, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.200 I take no pleasure in beating up the FBI. I 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.880 worked rico cases in the courts of Watchington, DC with 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.040 the FBI for years, and I worked with a lot 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.360 of great agents. The hat that's over my shoulder here, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.040 I have that up on my wall because a member 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.760 of an FBI undercover task force was murdered as part 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.760 of an FBI drug operation and I handle that case. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.679 So I don't say this casually or cavalierly, but it 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.400 is time for new leadership at the top of the FBI. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.800 And frankly, I don't even know how much good that's 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.760 going to do, but the time has come because I 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.680 think Director Ray has disqualified himself a couple of times 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.480 over and I think the two most compelling examples of 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.959 that are the Larry Nasser case and the Brett Kavanaugh 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:32.760 background investigation. First of all, the Nasser case, those gymnasts, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:38.840 those victims of sexual assault testified. It was heart wrenching, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:45.640 and the fact that their cases were not just mismanaged, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.960 We're not just neglected by the FBI. FBI agents involved 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:56.160 engaged in misconduct and covered up the information of their abuse. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.360 And now the two agents who were primarily responsible for 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.240 that aren't, as far as we know, being criminally investigated 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.439 for it, aren't being prosecuted. One was let go by 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.640 the FBI two weeks ago. You think that was for 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.600 show in advance of yesterday's hearing, and the other was 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:21.880 allowed to retire and continue to get our tax dollars 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:27.920 as his retirement compensation. That shows that the FBI leadership 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:33.240 does not take seriously what happened to those gymnasts or 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:39.040 the fact that the FBI badly botched that investigation to 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.679 the extreme detriment of those young sex victims. That's one 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.840 the Brett Kavanaugh debacle. Danielle I wrote a piece about 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.720 this for MSNBC Daily, and it boggles my mind. Because 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:58.520 the FBI opened the tipline for citizens to provide derogatory 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:03.840 information about Brett Kavanaugh. Forty five hundred citizens took the 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.040 FBI up on that. What did the FBI do with 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:11.480 those tips? They didn't investigate them. They took them and 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.080 they delivered them to the very person who had every 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.520 incentive to bury them. Donald Trump and his White House 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:24.160 Council beyond bury them. And of course we never heard 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.560 anything about all that derogatory information about a person who 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.080 would be in a position to decide whether women in 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.560 Texas have constitutional rights or not. We didn't get any 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.280 of that information. But you know what, I think Donald 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.160 Trump used it to try to hold sway over Brett Kavanaugh, 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.800 potentially to try to blackmail him. Remember a few months 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.120 ago when there was reporting about Donald Trump saying Brett 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.720 Kavanaugh he was his career was dead, a law firm 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.960 wouldn't have him back. He was in disgrace until I 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.600 revived him. What did Donald Trump base that on? I'm 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.440 betting putting two and two the together and concluding it 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:06.120 equals four. It was forty five hundred pieces of derogatory 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.240 information that was hand delivered privately by the FBI to 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.920 Donald Trump and his White House counsel. The two things 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.280 that need to happen. Let me go back to the 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.560 FBI and as I think, two things that need to 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.440 happen now, they were delivered a White House counsel. They 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.080 are either still sitting at White House Counsel's office, but 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.240 now it's Joe Biden's White House counsel such that they 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.600 can be exposed and he can share with the American 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.280 people that information about a Supreme Court justice and we 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.800 can decide what to do about it. Or if they 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.960 no longer exist because Trump and his White House counsel 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.320 destroyed them, the FBI still has them right. So, first 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.920 of all, the White House Counsel, Biden's White House counsel 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.320 should now disclose them to us and or Congress should 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.960 subpoena them, because we need to get to the bottom 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.360 of what the FBI and the White House knew about 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:02.960 Brett Kavanaugh four they crammed his nomination down America's throat, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.000 And is there anything in those forty five hundred tips 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:11.800 that contradicts and I'm betting there is Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation testimony, 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.240 because if so, he can be charged with a false 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.840 statement eighteen USC. One thousand and one, He can be convicted, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.400 he can be impeached, and he can be removed from 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.840 the Supreme Court. This is not hyperbole. This is just 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.120 good government and good law enforcement. Going back to the FBI, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.720 we need new leadership. Go ahead, let me ask this question, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.320 because this is what frustrates me. Glenn, because you just 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:43.680 connected these dots so perfectly. Here's the thing. We know 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.040 this information. We know about the forty five hundred calls 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.200 and tips to the FBI. We know we knew that 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:55.160 Brett Kavanaugh lied during his confirmation hearing, right, we knew 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.160 what information that he kept. The question that I have 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.200 is is there any will from this Department of Justice 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.760 which we have seen to be and I know some 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.119 of your friends are still there, it is very lackluster 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.720 in terms of where I thought that we would be 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.160 nine months right after the Biden administration was some more 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.360 eight months excuse me, after the Biden administration was sworn in, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.560 we are nowhere near where I thought we would be 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.399 with indictments, with subpoenas around what we have seen was 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:31.320 blatant criminality. What I've seen was blatant lies. And we've 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.280 just continued to brush it under the rug. And so 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.160 is there a desire from this dj from this White House, 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:42.360 from Congress to issue these kinds of subpoenas because let 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.400 me ask this also, have we ever impeached a Supreme 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.760 Court justice? Because it also seems to me that if 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.280 there is no precedent, there is a lot of fear 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.240 around what then the reaction from Republicans will be and 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.600 who they will go after. So it is there a 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.760 will inside the Department of Justice. Here's the only way 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.919 I can answer that. We haven't seen any indication of 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.200 it yet. But the other thing that I always cite, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.240 Danielle is the only thing that's loosely comparable to this 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:17.360 in its White Watergate. Right Watergate, it took twenty one 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.320 months to finally get our arms around and return indictments 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.240 against all of the bad actors, not the guys who 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:31.000 broke into the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.200 We caught five of the seven of them that night, 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.760 and it still took us five months to indict them. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.280 It took twenty one months to get our arms around 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.080 the rest of the characters, and then it took twenty 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.480 six months from the time of the break in for 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.359 Richard Nixon to resign. What I am hoping is that 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.359 there is a will and there is an investigation up 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.920 and running inside the Department of Justice that will culminate 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.960 in holding Trump and company accountable. We haven't seen any 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.720 indication of it yet. And what I keep talking about 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.240 is that public safety is at risk. We are now 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.160 on the eve of insurrection two point zero. I think 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.200 this one will fizzle. I hope this one will fizzle. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.960 And if it does fizzle, that will be further evidence 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.520 that Donald Trump orchestrated the January sixth one, because that 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.719 was a Donald Trump production. Expressly, come to DC on 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.879 January sixth will be wild. Go down there and stop 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.680 the steal fight, or you won't have a country left anymore. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.880 That was a Donald Trump production. He incited it, He's 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.560 criminally responsible for it. If Tomorrow fizzles, that will be 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:45.600 further evidence that Donald Trump incited January sixth, because this 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.840 is not a Donald Trump production, even though he put 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.920 out that pathetic little press release, Yes to night, tomorrow 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.880 is not a Donald Trump production. So if it fizzles, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.400 that goes further improving that he is the one who 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.200 incited January sixth. You know, you make such a good 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.639 point because I did read the statement, right, which was 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.280 pretty much a cya statement on Donald Trump's part. Right, Oh, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.800 they're going to ruin my brand. I'm not quite sure 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.400 what brand he's talking about at this point, twice impeached president. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.639 But you know, the reality for me, and this is 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:22.560 another question is how are these people able to get 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.320 another permit? How is it that I am seeing headlines 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:31.320 on cable news stations talking about armed protesters right coming 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:35.720 to Washington, DC. Again, we are seeing now seven eight 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:39.480 foot fences around our capitol building, as if these people, 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:44.680 these insurrectionist Glenn are holding our government, our democracy hostage. 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.040 This is what this looks like, not just to me, 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:51.639 but to the world. And so I understand the constitutionality 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.240 of the right to assemble, But do we not draw 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.760 a line? Do draw a line? And but let me 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:02.000 tell you, it's very hard to gauge in prior restraint 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:09.240 of speech. So hate, hateful groups, hateful speech actually enjoys 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:14.879 First Amendment protection. What doesn't enjoy First Amendment protection is 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:19.680 violence or an imminent threat of violence. So there are 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:23.239 lines that have to be drawn. But prior restraint of 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.080 speech is a very difficult thing. And I would argue 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.960 it should be a difficult thing because everybody should have 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.760 their First Amendment right to speak their mind, as long 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:41.560 as they're not engaging in or imminently inciting violence. But 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.560 it's a tough line to draw. I have often said, 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.920 we're going to freedom ourselves to death. We're going to 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.880 First Amendment ourselves to death, and we have to make 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:57.040 more sensible choices about what speech and what behavior we 0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.879 are willing to say should enjoy First Amendment protections and 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:05.040 what speech shouldn't. But that's a very tricky gray area. 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.440 That is it for me today. Folks on the Woke 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.560 a f daily podcast to hear more conversations like the 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.520 one I have with our friend Glenn Kirshner. Check me 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:22.119 out on patreon dot com slash woke AF Power to 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.840 the people and to all the people. Power, get woke 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:26.359 and stay woke as fuck.