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Speaker 1: of mix shots. We do not have Everson Walls this week.
Speaker 1: Everson has called out this week and we are here
Speaker 1: for the next hour and talk about he's on ir
Speaker 1: We do have obviously we do. You know I can
Speaker 1: without my headset side as you can. When are we
Speaker 1: going to open up the phone calls anytime you want,
Speaker 1: the time you want, any time you want, you want
Speaker 1: to do it today? How about five two two nine
Speaker 1: seven two. That's funny because we haven't mentioned it over
Speaker 1: the course of year or two years, maybe ever since
Speaker 1: well for sure since March thirteenth, twenty twenty, since the
Speaker 1: pandemic hit. So much to talk about we do. But
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, just just spur the moment.
Speaker 1: We take me some questions out there. We ought to
Speaker 1: take some phone calls since we don't have Everson to
Speaker 1: fill up the airspace today here inside the SWBC podcast studio,
Speaker 1: it's March thirty. First, we're moving into April. And you
Speaker 1: know what April means? The drafters? What's that crispy? The masters?
Speaker 1: It beats the Yes, I've got it green jackets very goodly,
Speaker 1: right yep. And so the twenty twenty two Big Green
Speaker 1: NFL Drag Scouting Notebook is filling up all right, by
Speaker 1: the day, by the hour, and so about time we
Speaker 1: started talking draft over the next few weeks, you've got
Speaker 1: you got kickers in there. There are kickers in there,
Speaker 1: all right. There's one from McKinney. There is huh, he's
Speaker 1: from McKinney and he went to LSU. That's was gonna
Speaker 1: get drafted. Um. I just read about him, Cade York,
Speaker 1: Cade York. He's kind of rated. I think the top
Speaker 1: kicker and the second top kicker is from Dicker, Oh, Dicker,
Speaker 1: the kicker, Dicker, the kicker from Texass. You know what,
Speaker 1: I didn't see his name on a list. He did
Speaker 1: come out, you know, he started he started his career
Speaker 1: strong at Texas yeah, he did not kick as well
Speaker 1: late in his career. The guy from Alabama I saw
Speaker 1: was listed and he he was I haven't got that
Speaker 1: deep into I forgot his name. He didn't kick that much,
Speaker 1: but he kick. Yes, he was good at extra points.
Speaker 1: They didn't use him all that much. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize Kaide was from from here. He's from right
Speaker 1: here in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. All right, we
Speaker 1: had And the only reason I said that is when
Speaker 1: Steven did his interview from the meetings and somebody asked
Speaker 1: him about needs in the draft, and the first thing
Speaker 1: he said was not needs, needs, not just the draft,
Speaker 1: but things they still need to work on it. And
Speaker 1: the first thing that came out was kicker. And it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: need a kicker, and they really don't. And you know what,
Speaker 1: there's really not much out there. I did a little
Speaker 1: quick look and the top three guys that were unrestricted
Speaker 1: free agents or considered Michael Badgeley bad How do you
Speaker 1: say it badly? Did I say it? Right? Um? Chase
Speaker 1: McLaughlin and Matt m and he was just released by
Speaker 1: the Jets, who just and they also they had Eddie Pinero. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's in a battle. Is their line will be in
Speaker 1: a battle there because he was a restricted free agent
Speaker 1: and they went ahead and signed him and uh so
Speaker 1: rather than him getting released out on the streets, and
Speaker 1: so he's now I guess his herline is probably the favorite.
Speaker 1: I'm sure what the Cowboys want to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got the is it Nagar Nigger the guy that
Speaker 1: they did sign. That's a young kid. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's kicked before. Um, yes, kicked before. I mean in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think he's kicked in one game. Well,
Speaker 1: this boll kicker who's never kicked, we don't have much experience.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, um Nagar Chris Nagger Nagara he was from
Speaker 1: I didn't write that down, but he was a street
Speaker 1: free agent pickup kicker. So what they have to do?
Speaker 1: Nice wonder um punter, punter? They got a punter, They
Speaker 1: spent money, Yes they do. Uh. They probably want to
Speaker 1: bring in a veteran and then I would think at
Speaker 1: some point they draft one. You got four fifth round
Speaker 1: draft which the sweet spot I think it probably is.
Speaker 1: Would Kade York last that long? I think I think
Speaker 1: when you look in fact, the kicker for the Bengals,
Speaker 1: this year, who was basically one of their best players.
Speaker 1: He was a fifth round draft pick. He was a
Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick. So that's kind of the sweet
Speaker 1: spot unless you're Sebastian Janetkowski, right, unless and that guy's
Speaker 1: coming out next year from Missouri. So the thicker kicker,
Speaker 1: the thicker kicker. Yeah, okay, and he's so he's good,
Speaker 1: he's real good distance. How do you know? I watch? Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize Missouri got into scoring position unfortunately too
Speaker 1: many times kicking m Chris Beam has alerted us that
Speaker 1: we actually have a phone call. Would you like to
Speaker 1: kick it off? So to speak with a phone call,
Speaker 1: do something different? All right, Chris, I threw a curveball.
Speaker 1: My server just resett it hung them up or not?
Speaker 1: I got to turn around. Look at this, Chris Beam.
Speaker 1: You let us know when you have that server. And
Speaker 1: if you drop kicker and you're listening at kicker, if
Speaker 1: you drop caller and you're listening, call back again. But
Speaker 1: just make sure you're good. That's right, because we haven't
Speaker 1: done this in a while. That's that's right, all right? Okay?
Speaker 1: Owners meetings in Florida this week, Um, listen to me
Speaker 1: about overtime Okay, what did I say last week? Just
Speaker 1: play football? That's what I say. Just play football, and
Speaker 1: that's what they just I'll take it a step further
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, okay, and just let us throw that
Speaker 1: this out there, all right. The big what's the biggest
Speaker 1: issue you with overtime? Play overtime? The biggest issue, The
Speaker 1: biggest issue has been the biggest what they worry about
Speaker 1: or what has been the biggest issue? That it was
Speaker 1: that both teams didn't get a chance with the ball.
Speaker 1: So winning the coin flip was the biggest issue of overtime,
Speaker 1: right and now they think they've solved that because both
Speaker 1: teams have an opportunity correct with the football. The thought
Speaker 1: occurred to me, when you do, and I agree, just
Speaker 1: play football, all right, Let's how about just extending the game.
Speaker 1: Forget the coin flip, forget resetting the end of regulation.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. How about at the if it's a
Speaker 1: tie game, play football. You're just playing. You don't stop
Speaker 1: you You treat the end of the fourth quarter like
Speaker 1: it's the end of the third quarter. You put another
Speaker 1: ten minutes on the clock, and yet you might team
Speaker 1: might have the football and they might be down in scoring. Position.
Speaker 1: The only negative is you don't have the aspect in
Speaker 1: a high game of trying to beat the clock to
Speaker 1: kick that game winning field goal whatever. But the point
Speaker 1: is you got to score anyway, right, and so what
Speaker 1: difference does it make if you're trying to beat the
Speaker 1: clock on it? Okay, there's there's the reason why we
Speaker 1: have downs in football. There's there's still how do they
Speaker 1: how do they handle it? In the NBA they play
Speaker 1: a quarter right right, they play well, four minutes, four minute,
Speaker 1: five minutes, but they play foot basketball right right, it's
Speaker 1: not sudden death. They didn't yuck it up. What does
Speaker 1: the NHL do when they get to the playoffs? You know,
Speaker 1: it's sudden death, but it's not theirs one to score.
Speaker 1: But there's both, coin flip both both, yeah, both teams
Speaker 1: because of the nature of those games. You play has
Speaker 1: a chance with the ball you play hockey. What do
Speaker 1: they do in soccer? They play two fifteen minutes overtimes
Speaker 1: right before they get to the goofy and you've got
Speaker 1: every opportunity to take the ball away from the right.
Speaker 1: Sudden death mech sudden death. It well without the all right,
Speaker 1: but sudden death means it becomes sudden death whenever coin flip,
Speaker 1: but it also becomes sudden death if you just play
Speaker 1: on right, right, and so you haven't taken away the
Speaker 1: aspect of sudden death. You just continue to play the
Speaker 1: game and all aspects of the game are still in
Speaker 1: play this way. Okay, you have if you're on defense
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, you got to stop them, okay,
Speaker 1: And there's and you have no argument. We're just extending
Speaker 1: the game. So I don't understand why it hasn't even
Speaker 1: been brought up that just just play like that and
Speaker 1: take the coin flip out of it, right, Who cares?
Speaker 1: And especially in the playoffs, right, especially in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: why why why do you have to get in a
Speaker 1: hurry to end the playoff game. Let them play football,
Speaker 1: don't yuck it up, don't come up with well you
Speaker 1: got to have a two point conversion. And that's not
Speaker 1: the way you play the game. Play the game normal.
Speaker 1: I mean in hockey, I understand what they do in
Speaker 1: the regular season. It's a long season, eighty two games
Speaker 1: and they go three on three, okay, But in the
Speaker 1: playoffs on seven in the NFL, yeah, But in the
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it's it's they play hockey, right, It's
Speaker 1: it's sudden death. But seven on seven, you take these alignment,
Speaker 1: take the take the alignment off the field. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: they can't play more than sixty minutes. Those are big guys,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to tire them out, and you
Speaker 1: don't want to run the football. Just seven on seven.
Speaker 1: Just throw the ball around, all right? Chris, you said
Speaker 1: we have a phone call. I do. I have Kevin
Speaker 1: and Uniontown, Ohio. Kevin and Uniontown, Ohio. You're the first
Speaker 1: caller in a couple of years. Are mixed, guys? Good afternoon, guys,
Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Sure, Hey, a couple of questions and then
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys go and you to see what
Speaker 1: you guys say. My here's a couple of my theories.
Speaker 1: One to me this year, I know we had to
Speaker 1: clean up to the cap, and that seems like that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Are they planning for more of a
Speaker 1: next year turnaround instead of additional turnaround because I don't
Speaker 1: see them. Definitely, we're not as good as we were
Speaker 1: last year at this time, especially at certain positions. And Mick,
Speaker 1: do you see us signing an offensive tackle before the draft.
Speaker 1: Happens there's I know that the pickings are getting small
Speaker 1: out there, but I can't see us going into the
Speaker 1: draft right now with that kind of need. What's your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I think on the offensive tackle, they'll keep their eyes
Speaker 1: open for a veteran on a one or two year
Speaker 1: deal that doesn't cost a lot against the cap, that
Speaker 1: doesn't preclude drafting a guy and saying, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: this guy's got to start. I think it's open for competition.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing I think you have to
Speaker 1: remember at offensive tackle is they you know, Terence Steele
Speaker 1: right now, if they played tomorrow as your starting right tackle, Now,
Speaker 1: who's the swing tackle. They're certainly hoping that Josh Ball
Speaker 1: is what they thought he was drafting him in the
Speaker 1: fourth round, so you've got to give him a chance.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that you could just rely on that.
Speaker 1: So I think at some point in UM I think
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones talked about it. You know, they're still looking
Speaker 1: for you know, maybe it's an offensive lineman that's a
Speaker 1: guard tackle and can compete for the starting job. But
Speaker 1: I think that's where they are on that. And as
Speaker 1: far as for the turnaround, UM, as you know, with
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans. There's no such thing as a turnaround, right,
Speaker 1: They're supposed to win the division. And if you look
Speaker 1: at the teams in the NFC East, aren't the Cowboys
Speaker 1: gonna be favorite just because of the quarterback? Well? I
Speaker 1: think that they're good enough to win the NFC East
Speaker 1: right now, I mean who I was talking about? Sorry
Speaker 1: make the interrupt you, but I wasn't talking about us
Speaker 1: being I agree with you. I do believe that we're
Speaker 1: the best team on paper an they nfcast. But is
Speaker 1: that good enough for our head coach to keep his job? Well?
Speaker 1: Is it his fault? I would say no? But you
Speaker 1: know how that Yeah, yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: I think they I think they can be good enough.
Speaker 1: And you got to let the season play out, right
Speaker 1: because remember this thing and and um, I can't remember
Speaker 1: if Jerry pointed it out or Mike pointed it out
Speaker 1: at this time last year. How good were they? He
Speaker 1: didn't have Michael Parson Jerry this time last year? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jerry pointed out. I agree with that totally. But you know,
Speaker 1: we were definitely stronger going to his wide receiver group
Speaker 1: than we are today. You know what the I love
Speaker 1: the opportunity. I love the word Mike McCarthy used opportunity.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of opportunity on this team. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's a good thing or not, but you
Speaker 1: got to play it out and see, you know what
Speaker 1: takes place. And yeah, I think wide receiver. And we
Speaker 1: talked about it last week. Remember we kind of got
Speaker 1: into offensive lineman or wide receiver and I was saying, well,
Speaker 1: I think the wide receiver is very important. And again,
Speaker 1: as Steven pointed out, yeah, you go into the draft
Speaker 1: with what you want to do, and then what happens
Speaker 1: if a Lamb or a Parsons is sitting there and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your priorities change. Right now, we've
Speaker 1: got a ways to go yet, I think, and that's
Speaker 1: why I agree with you, But that's why I'm kind
Speaker 1: of concerned. I don't want us not to bring in
Speaker 1: a guard, you know, pick somebody out there free agency
Speaker 1: and not go into this draft needing it something. I
Speaker 1: like the idea of us being an egger draft of
Speaker 1: what's the best player it is failable on their board,
Speaker 1: and not be compromised to have no choice but to
Speaker 1: pick up a guard or center. If that's around you
Speaker 1: want to go yeah and again, and it has to
Speaker 1: be for a reasonable amount of money. And I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, because right now we have you know, very
Speaker 1: little little cash flow to do anything better, right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: all right, Kevin, thanks a lot way to start things off.
Speaker 1: All right, We're going to encourage us to take more
Speaker 1: phone calls, all right, So our multiple phone lines are
Speaker 1: open for more phone calls. Which, by the way, on
Speaker 1: and I did this for mix shot on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com for today. So you're going to be without
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, right, You're without Marie Cooper, Cedric Wilson,
Speaker 1: Steven points out, and probably no Michael Gallup for the
Speaker 1: first two or three games or six. Well we'll see
Speaker 1: and and and you know Malik Turner, I mean he contributed, right,
Speaker 1: So I added up the catches of those four guys
Speaker 1: one hundred sixty sixty three percent of the wide receiver receptions.
Speaker 1: Is no longer here or counting Gallup for the season opener,
Speaker 1: let's put it, okay. And then when it comes to touchdowns,
Speaker 1: those four guys combined for nineteen touchdowns. That was seventy
Speaker 1: six percent of the wide receiver touchdown receptions. That's what's
Speaker 1: missing right now. So if the Cowboys were to play
Speaker 1: a game this Sunday, the wide receivers would be Ceede
Speaker 1: Lamb Ceedee Lambton, James Washington, and Semi Fijoko Brown or
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, those two four guys basically. And you know,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarry was somewhat impressed with James Washington, and he
Speaker 1: said talking I hope he was more than somewhat well
Speaker 1: sit talking to the people in Pittsburgh. They thought he
Speaker 1: just needed a fresh start. And he also pointed out
Speaker 1: that when he came out in the draft, it was
Speaker 1: a second round pick from Pittsburgh, that the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: a high grade on him coming out of Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: So to be interesting to see, you know what he
Speaker 1: can do if he gets I mean, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: a chance. Right, this is his opportunity. It's a one
Speaker 1: year deal. And you know, if he likes playing NFL
Speaker 1: football two hours from his ranch or one hour from
Speaker 1: his ranch, I guess it's a couple hours because it's
Speaker 1: just west of Abilene. Then you know, this is his time.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get the opportunity. So he liked playing football
Speaker 1: or baylan Hay, Yeah, right, which does he like better?
Speaker 1: Who was the offensive lineman that quit on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: back in the eighties, late eighties or early nineties, and
Speaker 1: he was gonna go work in his father's roofing business.
Speaker 1: Changed his mind real quick after he got up on
Speaker 1: that roof with a letter of degrees and when he
Speaker 1: got his paycheck. Yeah right, Oh, you're just helping out
Speaker 1: the family. Okay. So but anyway to Kevin's point, though
Speaker 1: about is this team better now than it was a
Speaker 1: year ago at this time? He's the caller, says no,
Speaker 1: Jerry said he likes is where this team is now
Speaker 1: compared to a year ago at this time? What do
Speaker 1: you think? Well, I think a year ago at this
Speaker 1: time they were better off, right, But you know they
Speaker 1: did add But no, we didn't know about the defense,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if the defense got better or not.
Speaker 1: It kind of they hold their own. They are counting
Speaker 1: on young guys to step up now, Is that the answer?
Speaker 1: Because you can't cover all your holes in the draft, right,
Speaker 1: you only got one first year. And see that's the
Speaker 1: thing in what Kevin would point out too. He would
Speaker 1: like to and everyone would like for them to fill
Speaker 1: those holes where you're not having to draft for need
Speaker 1: in the draft. And that's been what the Cowboys practice
Speaker 1: has been in free agency, where you sign enough of
Speaker 1: veteran guys where you can go play. What you will
Speaker 1: quickly point out is that Connor McGovern has started games before.
Speaker 1: You can go play with Connor McGovern at left guard,
Speaker 1: and it's time, right, this is his fourth year. You know,
Speaker 1: sitter whatever out the door. I mean, you can't use
Speaker 1: a he was a third round pick, right, third round pick,
Speaker 1: fourth year, he got to be more than a part
Speaker 1: time fullback, part time blocking tight end. Right. And then
Speaker 1: there's the other thing about that is there will be
Speaker 1: interior offensive linemen who are still out there who can
Speaker 1: come in and start for you after the draft. Okay.
Speaker 1: There the market is, the money's dried up right now, okay,
Speaker 1: And so everybody's signing right now are signing veteran minimum deals.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do those veterans any good to go ahead
Speaker 1: and sign now. They might as well at this point
Speaker 1: because that all they're getting as a veteran minimum deal.
Speaker 1: They can they're going to get that same veteran minimum
Speaker 1: deal whether they sign in May or March. Right at
Speaker 1: this point, now, if you've got some starting experience in
Speaker 1: this league as a veteran offensive guard or center, you
Speaker 1: might as well. Wait there, we've seen before wherein OTA's
Speaker 1: a guy will tear an ACL or whatever and that
Speaker 1: their needs will arise. But and also from the standpoint,
Speaker 1: there are teams like the Cowboys who are looking at Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we might draft and a starting offensive guard with the
Speaker 1: twenty fourth pick in the first round. But if Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons is sitting there, or Ceedee Lamb is sitting there,
Speaker 1: and we don't get that Kenyon Green from Texas A
Speaker 1: and M in the first round, all right, Now, we'll
Speaker 1: go sign that veteran that's on the street still, right,
Speaker 1: who has starting experience then, who actually will be more
Speaker 1: better equipped to play better snaps for you this year
Speaker 1: than a rookie would coming in. And that's was the
Speaker 1: logic of signing Dante Filer junior. Right, Okay, let's bring
Speaker 1: in a veteran guy at defensive end just in case, right,
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what comes up in the draft.
Speaker 1: So they kind of filled in there. They fill in
Speaker 1: with Malie Cooker at safety. It's only a one year deal.
Speaker 1: Two years, two years, two years, eight million, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they filled in with him last year, signing him
Speaker 1: during the season, and he proved himself and he's back
Speaker 1: from his injury and he's and they felt good enough
Speaker 1: about him that they signed him to a two year deal,
Speaker 1: just like they did with Curse. Curse was a guy
Speaker 1: who was a fill in, and he turned out to
Speaker 1: be their leading tackler on the team last year. I
Speaker 1: think the biggest disappointment. I mean, look what they did
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. They did it of their own volition, right.
Speaker 1: They decided at right tackle that Terrence Steele could step
Speaker 1: in for Lale Collins at far less money than collins
Speaker 1: ten million dollars base salary, right, and and Jerry pointed
Speaker 1: it out. He said, you know, that's fine to have
Speaker 1: guys that make that much money, but you got to
Speaker 1: play to that level. And I got a feeling they
Speaker 1: don't think Laale Collins played at that level. That's why
Speaker 1: they let him go. They didn't have to do that.
Speaker 1: They did it on their own volition, that's right, because
Speaker 1: the salary cap savings was not there in that case
Speaker 1: with with Loo Coolin and the same thing with Cooper.
Speaker 1: And I also think with Collins they're probably concerned his
Speaker 1: hip situation, right, that has flared up here in the
Speaker 1: last game, and they made the decision to let Cooper go.
Speaker 1: You know, they could have figured it out, but they decided, no,
Speaker 1: We're going to move forward. And I saw where they
Speaker 1: got criticized for only getting a fifth right, But here's
Speaker 1: the deal. Number One, teams knew that if if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't trade them, they were going to cut them.
Speaker 1: So they're not going to give you a bunch of money.
Speaker 1: I mean a bunch of draft picks. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not Tyreek Hill. Right. There was a deadline on that too.
Speaker 1: He roster bonus the fifth day of the new year.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is the team that trades for
Speaker 1: him has to inherit that twenty million dollars base salary.
Speaker 1: So now it's like, Okay, I'm taking them on, but
Speaker 1: I'm not paying you a whole bunch of money. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing that Cleveland's going through right now with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Right. There are teams that would take Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield on, but they're not. He has a guaranteed eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollar salary this year because they picked up the
Speaker 1: fifth year option, and so Cleveland is on the hook
Speaker 1: for that right now, right and there's no team win
Speaker 1: their right mind right now because there's no there's no
Speaker 1: vacancy at the quarterback end in the league right now,
Speaker 1: there's no team that's going to take on that eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollars for Bakingfield. It's guaranteed, Yeah, it's guaranteed, fifth
Speaker 1: year options guarantee, eleveland's got themselves right the only way
Speaker 1: they keep that's right. And so if I'm trading for him,
Speaker 1: I'm starting with Okay, I'll give you a seventh What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You want to absorb that contract
Speaker 1: and the new contract that you just promised and guaranteed
Speaker 1: till eternity. All right, Carlton and Baton Rouge is on
Speaker 1: the line, But we're up against a break. So Carlton,
Speaker 1: we're going to come back and take your call right
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Speaker 1: on mix Shots. Hello Carlton, Hello miss Billy, how are
Speaker 1: you doing? How are y'all doing good? Well? I was
Speaker 1: just thinking I heard a couple of guys on All
Speaker 1: y'all podcasts and Joe Loon newses are all the time
Speaker 1: around the star. If you could talk him out of retirement,
Speaker 1: you got a guarding center. And then what about us
Speaker 1: drafted or running back? Uh? I think something would have
Speaker 1: to jump out at them the third day of the
Speaker 1: draft running back to a running mom and I think
Speaker 1: they liked those young guys that they still have rights to.
Speaker 1: It's a deep running back class, right And in fact,
Speaker 1: I think across the board this is going this is
Speaker 1: a deeper draft than and this is without filling up
Speaker 1: my green notebook entirely, but just by its nature, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a deeper draft than what it was
Speaker 1: for sure last year and in a normal year. And
Speaker 1: it's because of the pandemic. So you've got a lot
Speaker 1: more people in the draft this year, and you had
Speaker 1: a lot fewer people in the draft last year. I
Speaker 1: think Mike pointed out, and these were numbers from Will
Speaker 1: McClay that like a normal year, they would have draftable
Speaker 1: grades on one hundred and fifty two hundred and sixty players,
Speaker 1: and this year they have draftable grades on two hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty to two hundred and thirty players because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, so that is returned to college. So just
Speaker 1: use those numbers one fifty one normal year said one
Speaker 1: fifty to one sixty. Okay, let's say one sixty okay,
Speaker 1: and then this year and then this year they have
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty. That's six that's two rounds. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: basically instead of it being in a normal year it's
Speaker 1: a seven round draft, they view it as a nine
Speaker 1: round draft and understand that every team has the same
Speaker 1: number of draftable grades. Well, they are the reason that
Speaker 1: you get to two hundred and fifty that are drafted
Speaker 1: and everyone says, oh, yeah, we had a draftable grade
Speaker 1: on that guy, is because they're not. They're not the
Speaker 1: same one hundred and sixty players that every buddy has
Speaker 1: a draftable grade. Hunt So anyway, so basically you can
Speaker 1: look at it that a third round pick, a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick this year, you're more likely gonna have a
Speaker 1: third round grade on them than in a normal year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think about in those four fifth round picks,
Speaker 1: they probably in that room down down the hallway, they
Speaker 1: probably look at those four fifth round picks as guys
Speaker 1: that they will have third or fourth round draft picks on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because think about it, thirty two teams times seven rounds,
Speaker 1: that's like two hundred and twenty twenty five somewhere in
Speaker 1: their two hundred twenty two, twenty four and now you've
Speaker 1: got draftable grades on two hundred and twenty of them. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this draft is going to be stocked with more players
Speaker 1: just win. And McCarthy said it, he goes to big
Speaker 1: thing in this draft is bigger numbers of people that
Speaker 1: are available. So and that and that likely has has
Speaker 1: impacted not only the Cowboys but other teams as far
Speaker 1: as what they're doing here in free agency. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who aren't in that first wave
Speaker 1: of free agency and even the second wave a pre
Speaker 1: agency that are sitting out there on the street and
Speaker 1: they're not getting the offers that they want, or they're
Speaker 1: taking the offers because they're afraid they won't have a
Speaker 1: seat at the table when all the when the music stops.
Speaker 1: So they're taking less money as a veteran guy because
Speaker 1: teams aren't aren't offering more because they feel like that
Speaker 1: they can fill needs in the draft more so this
Speaker 1: year than in a normal ye know, Stephen had an
Speaker 1: interesting comment and we kind of debated it last week.
Speaker 1: Offensive linemen or defensive end, And as I was kind
Speaker 1: of perusing some of the draft lists, it seemed like
Speaker 1: there was a proliferation of defensive ends that there was
Speaker 1: a bunch that had first round grades and he made
Speaker 1: and when when somebody asked him about the offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: where does that? And he goes, you know what, he goes.
Speaker 1: The way they play college football, it's really hard to
Speaker 1: project offensive linemen these days. So when everybody gets all
Speaker 1: excited about taking a tackle in the first round, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: is he ready to play in the NFL? And over
Speaker 1: recent years, I think we've seen a lot of busts
Speaker 1: with those offensive tackles because this isn't college football, and
Speaker 1: in college football, basically all they're doing is pass blocking
Speaker 1: and there's not much run blocking going on. And so
Speaker 1: that gave me pause about, you know, taking an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman high in the draft. Yeah, if all things were equal, yeah,
Speaker 1: could they use and again I'll say it a tackle
Speaker 1: who can play guard, because usually if you take a guard,
Speaker 1: that means he can't play tackle. And so at twenty four,
Speaker 1: you would consider it or you trade down. But your
Speaker 1: percentage of hitting on offensive lineman high in the draft
Speaker 1: these days is not as good as it used to be.
Speaker 1: But with the amount of defensive ends available by time
Speaker 1: they get the twenty four, there might be one available
Speaker 1: that you can say, Okay, this guy can turn things around. Um. So,
Speaker 1: I just thought that was interesting when he made that
Speaker 1: comment about offensive lineman. And when it comes to wide receiver,
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about them. Then the need that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have at wide receiver, it's obvious. And man, I
Speaker 1: look at the wide receivers in this draft, and there
Speaker 1: there are some who think that there could be seven
Speaker 1: eight wide receivers go in the first round. I mean
Speaker 1: it was. It was a really good wide receiver draft
Speaker 1: last year with the top three guys, and they all
Speaker 1: they all came through in their rookie year. I played well, okay,
Speaker 1: And I think anymore that these there was a time
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago that there was a transition period
Speaker 1: that wide receivers had to go through in the league.
Speaker 1: Now I think the guys can step in and play,
Speaker 1: and so I think when you're looking at some of
Speaker 1: these teams like the Cowboys with Cooper, like the Packers
Speaker 1: with Adams, like the Chiefs with Tyreek Hill. They look
Speaker 1: at the wide receivers in this draft and they think
Speaker 1: we can now we may not get a Demante Adams
Speaker 1: where they not get a Tyreek Hill or a Maury Cooper,
Speaker 1: but we can get a guy who can who can
Speaker 1: come in and take a lot of targets and catch
Speaker 1: a lot of balls as rookie year. And you know
Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys coming out off of injuries,
Speaker 1: right Alabama, ye, Jamison Williams. Williams, Yep, he's not going
Speaker 1: to be ready in the offseason, right, would you use
Speaker 1: a first round on him? Maybe you get him in
Speaker 1: the second. And we know that Cowboys, you've been known
Speaker 1: to other Alabama gay matching that that also he got
Speaker 1: hurt and right he I think his was in November
Speaker 1: injury and so maybe ready in the summertime. That was
Speaker 1: another wide receiver escape in my mind, that was possibly
Speaker 1: an injury guy that made would have gone high top ten,
Speaker 1: fifteen that you know he tours it And that's the
Speaker 1: thing with Gallup's ACL and the surgery occurring in February.
Speaker 1: You need that rookie to be able to come in
Speaker 1: and contribute right away. Right. So to me, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: take a guy like that not knowing that he could
Speaker 1: be ready to play. You know, they did it with
Speaker 1: Sean Lee right second round. And here again even with
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. We talked about it with the offensive guard.
Speaker 1: Cowboys see what they get in the draft as far
Speaker 1: as wide receiver, and there's there's gonna be receivers out there,
Speaker 1: veteran guys out there who again would be able to
Speaker 1: contribute more at the beginning of the season than a
Speaker 1: rookie would be that you draft correct and again and
Speaker 1: after the draft, you never know who gets released after
Speaker 1: I took this guy with my tenth pick because he's
Speaker 1: going to start. That's I think that's the danger in
Speaker 1: the draft is if you want when you're drafting players,
Speaker 1: you're drafting these players for If it's a first round pick,
Speaker 1: you're drafting him for five years because you have you
Speaker 1: have his rights for five years. Any other player you're
Speaker 1: drafting him for four years. It's not just about your
Speaker 1: needs this year. It's it's how are you set at
Speaker 1: that position going forward? And that's why when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: make a decision on Amari Cooper and were he was
Speaker 1: in his contract right now, you're and with the depth
Speaker 1: of the wide receiver class and also what you have
Speaker 1: on your roster, your inventory at wide receiver, where Cedee
Speaker 1: Lamb is now two years away from getting big money
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup this year you have you paid big money too.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to change it over. You
Speaker 1: have to roll it over in the in the wide
Speaker 1: receiver room. And uh and it just happens to be
Speaker 1: a position now where there's there's a lot more prospects
Speaker 1: out there, and so you can you can fill the
Speaker 1: need as opposed to quarterback. Quarterback there aren't. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've proven quarterbacks that they are coming around every year.
Speaker 1: There's it's a crapshoot a lot of times as far
Speaker 1: as quarterback goes. You have to have a high draft
Speaker 1: pick usually to get one. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: believe it was McCarthy brought this up, although Jerry touched
Speaker 1: on it. Your quarterback, by the way, is going to
Speaker 1: go through a normal off season, right He didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to work that much. He didn't throw that
Speaker 1: much last year to all these guys coming back from
Speaker 1: his injury. So he'll have a normal OTAs, he'll have
Speaker 1: a normal mini camp. They don't have to hold him back,
Speaker 1: and he'll have a chance to work with these wide receivers,
Speaker 1: even you know, the young ones, more so than he
Speaker 1: was able to last year, So that two can make
Speaker 1: somewhat of a difference on his preparation. All right, there
Speaker 1: was news made around the National Football League, more specifically
Speaker 1: in Tampa last night. We get into that when we
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Speaker 1: Do more. You have a prediction on who the Cowboys
Speaker 1: might be playing in the preseason year. I hadn't even
Speaker 1: thought about it yet. Well, with the report coming out
Speaker 1: yesterday that the Cowboys and Chargers might be practicing practicing,
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking that may or maybe a preseason game
Speaker 1: in the Chargers stadium in LA could be the away game,
Speaker 1: right because they get two home games? Oh yeah? Oh wait,
Speaker 1: which was it like two way this year? Because we
Speaker 1: have an extra home game this year, so that's right,
Speaker 1: So two it's three preseason games? Yeah yeah, so one
Speaker 1: in well, they just camp out in LA, right, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember what we do with Houston, you, well,
Speaker 1: we had two. We had two home games in one
Speaker 1: away last year. Houston was one of them. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so we're going to Houston. So the other away games
Speaker 1: Houston probably, So break camp, go to Houstons and come
Speaker 1: home and play somebody body at home. Who do you
Speaker 1: want to play at? Somebody? It's not on the schedule.
Speaker 1: Gang of City's not on a schedule. Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: Gang of City. Okay, and then let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 1: We did. We just made the schedule, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: play at London, at at Jacksonville in London. That's what
Speaker 1: you want to do. Yeah, okay, yeah, please, that's not official, folks.
Speaker 1: It's been eight years. Yeah, it's not official. Are you
Speaker 1: making that announcement? Me? No, I'm not. It's been eight years.
Speaker 1: It was since Joseph Randall played fourteen for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville in London. Wow, and they've got to play
Speaker 1: and they get eight years since they made that Rex
Speaker 1: burkehead mistake in the draft, right, and does Brian had
Speaker 1: the best best single quarter in NFL? Actually nine years
Speaker 1: since almost missed the bus to go to London, by
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, you're right, he's outside the French for
Speaker 1: a while. He showed up right like if if we
Speaker 1: were supposed to leave at four o'clock, he showed up
Speaker 1: at three fifty seven and still had to go through security.
Speaker 1: That's why when we remember that I was camped out
Speaker 1: outside the Valley Ranch, we were getting video. I was
Speaker 1: doing a live shot and we were getting video as
Speaker 1: a team's departing to come through. I do remember that,
Speaker 1: and so here's what happened. This was funny. So the
Speaker 1: first day were there, I plugged my computer in and
Speaker 1: it shot the charger. Like I had no charger for
Speaker 1: my laptop. Oh, so I had to go down where
Speaker 1: the cowboys were operating and it was kind of in
Speaker 1: a hallway a couple of floors below us and find
Speaker 1: somebody that had a charger that fit my laptop so
Speaker 1: I can steal some some juice. Right, And so we're
Speaker 1: supposed to leave at eleven thirty to go to the practice,
Speaker 1: and so I'm down there and I was going to
Speaker 1: wait till the last minute to charge my laptop and
Speaker 1: I get a call um, I think it was from Bryan.
Speaker 1: They're on the bus and it's like eleven twenty three
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, the bus is getting ready to leave.
Speaker 1: I said, what time is supposed to leave? He said
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. I said, I still got seven minutes and
Speaker 1: and and I said, as Jason Garrett comes walking by,
Speaker 1: I'm on Dez Bryant time. Eleven thirty means eleventh th if.
Speaker 1: He busted out laugh. But yeah, it's time to go back.
Speaker 1: They get three three next three years they they're playing.
Speaker 1: Then there's a game in Mexico City. And then and
Speaker 1: you had one of the German German cities. I can't
Speaker 1: remember another one. Another one in London at Tottenham, I think, oh, yeah, Hotspur, Yeah,
Speaker 1: jackson Jacksonville is playing at the Big Stadium. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: playing at Wembley. Okay, so let's go. But do you
Speaker 1: want to go Tottenham? No, I want to go the Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Can't go Tattenham. You don't have them on the schedule,
Speaker 1: all right, so the okay. So Tom Brady retired on
Speaker 1: February first. Forty days later he came out of retirement,
Speaker 1: and then on March thirtieth, Bruce arians says, I'm out
Speaker 1: of here. Well, I'm going upstairs to the front office.
Speaker 1: And Todd Bowles is now the new head coach, of
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Farmer Cowboys defensive backs coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he spent several years here with Bill Parcels. That's right, yep.
Speaker 1: So what do you think that was surprising? Because we
Speaker 1: kept hearing maybe Aaron's and Tom Brady weren't like see
Speaker 1: an I die and then he ends up coming back
Speaker 1: and he ends up getting kicked upstairs. Bruce Arians, by
Speaker 1: the way, is uh conducting a press conference right now?
Speaker 1: Sixty nine going on seventy? Okay, if I can read it,
Speaker 1: it's very small. Chris Beam just sent me Arians all right,
Speaker 1: here's the quote. It's long. I may not give you
Speaker 1: all of it. Succession has always been huge for me,
Speaker 1: with the organization in probably the best shape it's been
Speaker 1: in in its history, with Tom Brady coming back. I'd
Speaker 1: rather see Todd Bowls in position to be successful and
Speaker 1: not have to take some bad job or crappy job
Speaker 1: is in parenthesy oh he said something else, not crappy.
Speaker 1: I'm probably I'm probably retiring next year anyway, in February,
Speaker 1: So I control the narrative right now. I don't control
Speaker 1: it next February because if Brady gets hurt, we go
Speaker 1: ten and seven, and it's an open interview for the job.
Speaker 1: I got thirty one coaches and their families that depend
Speaker 1: on me. My wife is big on not let all
Speaker 1: those families down. So there you go. That's pretty you know.
Speaker 1: That is also when Bob Stoop stepped down at Oklahoma, right,
Speaker 1: that's why he did it, right to say, and there
Speaker 1: are other coaches that have done that too. It was
Speaker 1: when Stoop stepped down. It was in June, and so
Speaker 1: you're not hiring a new staff then, and you've everything's
Speaker 1: in place. Everything was in place for Lincoln Riley in
Speaker 1: the in the entire staff, and you know that. And obviously,
Speaker 1: Arian says a track record with Todd Bulls, not only
Speaker 1: in Tampa, but he was his defensive coordinator with the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. He has very strong feelings for Bulls, and
Speaker 1: so he wanted to put him in a position and
Speaker 1: he's not leaving the organization. He's going upstairs in the
Speaker 1: front office. And so he's still still there. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know, he is sixty nine years old and turn
Speaker 1: in seventy this year. So yeah, so it makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense from that standpoint. Maybe we can do
Speaker 1: that when we get old when we get old, When
Speaker 1: we get old, Bruce Arians though his career. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously he didn't become a head coach until an NFL
Speaker 1: head coach until very late in his career. He was
Speaker 1: an interim coach with the Colts, and then I got
Speaker 1: the full time head coaching job with the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: less than ten years ago now. But you go back
Speaker 1: and look at his history. He was on Bear Bryant's
Speaker 1: staff at Alabama. That's how far back. He was a
Speaker 1: running backs coach at Alabama nineteen eighty one eighty two,
Speaker 1: Bear Bryant's last year as the Alabama head coach, and
Speaker 1: so Arians was twenty nine years old then, and he
Speaker 1: got the Temple head coaching job the next year at
Speaker 1: the age of thirty. For five or six years he
Speaker 1: was the head coach at Temple and really didn't did not.
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas City shortly after that under Marty
Speaker 1: shot himer Um. And but he was a college coach
Speaker 1: for years, and we then went over the decade of
Speaker 1: the nineties, went back and forth between college and the NFL,
Speaker 1: and then settled in the NFL around two thousand. Do
Speaker 1: you want to nugget about it? Was eighty two. Bear
Speaker 1: Bryant last game. I've got a certificate at the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 1: It was at the Liberty Ball, the Liberty Bawl, Okay.
Speaker 1: And the year before he was at the Cotton Covered.
Speaker 1: I covered that covered. I covered him at the at
Speaker 1: the Cotton Ball. So eighty two and they they beat
Speaker 1: the snot out of Illinois. Easton was the quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 1: they couldn't protect him. And I remember the post it
Speaker 1: was Cole the postgame interview. They didn't have a room,
Speaker 1: so he stood on some crate like Jimmy used to
Speaker 1: do at training camp, and it's freezing out and I
Speaker 1: looked at him and it was like, God, he's he's
Speaker 1: freezing and he he looks old, right, And I'll be
Speaker 1: darned if like a month later he passed. That's right.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like in February. It was. I
Speaker 1: can tell you when it was, because it was January,
Speaker 1: like twenty seventh or twenty eighth, No, twenty sixth, because
Speaker 1: it got into It was January twenty six at age
Speaker 1: sixty nine and ages Bruce Arey and I and we
Speaker 1: ended up going to UH Tuscaloosa because I was working
Speaker 1: in Jackson, then Mississippi, and we went to Tuscaloosa to
Speaker 1: cover the funeral. So anyway, I digressed, no, you know,
Speaker 1: um okay, I was just looking up, you know, with him.
Speaker 1: It was so it was a month later, Okay. It
Speaker 1: was like I remember thinking at the time, Okay, this
Speaker 1: guy he coaches all his life and then he didn't
Speaker 1: have coach and yeah, yeah, right, so I could remember.
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was that year or the
Speaker 1: year before we went to Tuscaloosa. They were playing Old
Speaker 1: Miss and gonna play ol Miss. So in the middle
Speaker 1: of the week we went there for his press conference
Speaker 1: and I finally got up enough nerve to ask him
Speaker 1: a question, and he didn't like the question, and his
Speaker 1: Southern drawl went up ten times. Right. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what he said to answer me right, because he
Speaker 1: didn't want to answer it. And and it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it right. Because he answered all the other questions,
Speaker 1: I could understand him, but what he answered mine had
Speaker 1: no clue what he said. I was looking it up.
Speaker 1: Joe Paterno is very similar, all right, Bear Bryant, Okay,
Speaker 1: he passed away with less than a month after his
Speaker 1: last game that he coached and Joe Paterno, age eighty five,
Speaker 1: January twenty second, twenty twelve. He coached through the twenty
Speaker 1: eleven season Penn State and then that was it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's amazing, all right on the Cowboys. In fact,
Speaker 1: we're getting ready to tape a blitz which you'll see
Speaker 1: in Dallas Fort Worth on CBS eleven at eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: on Sunday night and also here on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: Mickey is filling in for Kyle Yeoman's on the blitz
Speaker 1: this week. So one of the things we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about, let's rehearse it right here, okay, Okay. One
Speaker 1: of the things we're going to talk about offensive line
Speaker 1: need versus defensive line need. Okay, which is which is
Speaker 1: more needy. We kind of touched on that a little
Speaker 1: bit talking about what Stephen Jones said about comparing defensive
Speaker 1: ends in this draft to offensive lineman. To me, for
Speaker 1: a first round pick and the money that you spend,
Speaker 1: I think you get more bang for your buck with
Speaker 1: a defensive end than you do with an interior offensive
Speaker 1: alignment or a tackle that late in the draft, Because
Speaker 1: there's going to be a bunch taken before that. I
Speaker 1: can get that in the second round. I think second
Speaker 1: round defensive ends drop off considerably compared to the guys
Speaker 1: that go in the first round. Okay, we're also talking
Speaker 1: about offensive guard versus defensive Let's how about we make Okay,
Speaker 1: you're comparing a guy who can be an offensive tackle
Speaker 1: maybe if he's not right now, but you're looking at
Speaker 1: over the next five years, he'll play offensive tackle for
Speaker 1: you versus an edge rusher. Right, all right, what about
Speaker 1: the need offensive guard versus a defensive tackle, then I
Speaker 1: would I probably, knowing what they have at tackle right now,
Speaker 1: I could play with those guys unless one of those
Speaker 1: big slabber knockers from Georgia's available that can't get moved
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, especially and we're talking not
Speaker 1: so much for although they may take a guard in
Speaker 1: the first round, right or you're talking more second, third round,
Speaker 1: I could see them doing that. And you can hit
Speaker 1: on guards there. Right, it's a guard um because because
Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys the defensive tackle position, and
Speaker 1: with with the drafting of Osa Digga Zoo last year,
Speaker 1: you got him for three more years. Neville Gallimore, you've
Speaker 1: got him for two more years, okay, and obviously on
Speaker 1: offense at guard. Mc governor, will you only have him
Speaker 1: one more year? And then say what you want about
Speaker 1: we feel good about Galimore and OGGI zoo, yes, you know.
Speaker 1: And you got Wilson that you brought in back, right,
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, I said, Wilson, sorry, and he's on a
Speaker 1: one year deal, and you got Triston Hill. Triston Hill
Speaker 1: who's on in the last year of his four year deal. Right,
Speaker 1: So to me, if you're looking to replace, you also
Speaker 1: have Bohanna as a nose, right, Randy Gregory, I mean
Speaker 1: and here, oh that was another thing that came up
Speaker 1: in all this stuff with McCarthy. When he did his deal,
Speaker 1: he got asked about Michael Parsons and he basically said,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is a linebacker. He can move around. And
Speaker 1: he pointed out that of his thirteen sacks, seven came
Speaker 1: from the linebacker spot, six came from lining up as
Speaker 1: a true defensive ent. And he said that as an
Speaker 1: offensive guy, you are doing me a favor if you
Speaker 1: line up Michael Parsons down in and down out at
Speaker 1: defensive end, because I now know where he's going to
Speaker 1: be if he lines up at linebacker, we have the
Speaker 1: ability to move him around, and you don't know where
Speaker 1: he's always going to be. So to Mike McCarthy, he's
Speaker 1: a linebacker. He's not taking over a defensive end position.
Speaker 1: So just to clear that up, because I think there
Speaker 1: was a lot of people, well you got which still
Speaker 1: may mean he'll have fifteen sacks, right ben, and maybe
Speaker 1: you know seven or eight ers still at defensive end
Speaker 1: when they move him around, But you just don't know.
Speaker 1: Because the other thing, if you think about what they
Speaker 1: did towards the end of the year when they were
Speaker 1: in a four four to whatever, they would line him
Speaker 1: up like a strong side linebacker on the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage next to DeMarcus Lawrence. Now pick your poison, which
Speaker 1: one you're gonna lock. Here's the other thing. Linebackers can
Speaker 1: play three downs, right, Okay, you get three you want?
Speaker 1: You hope you get a linebacker who can be a
Speaker 1: three down linebacker, usually defensive ends. Although de Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: he'll play us hard out for you for sixty snaps
Speaker 1: a game, but he's not You can't ask him to
Speaker 1: play eighty snaps, okay, And usually he's going to be
Speaker 1: in the fifty snap to get the most effectiveness out
Speaker 1: of an edge rusher, he's probably on the field max
Speaker 1: Fifty snaps out of seventy seventy five in a game.
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons can be on the field more if you're
Speaker 1: playing him at linebacker. And think about this. So Parsons
Speaker 1: once he started playing predominantly linebacker towards the end of
Speaker 1: the season. So like Kansas City played eighty eight percent
Speaker 1: of the snaps, next game, eighty eight point five, next
Speaker 1: game ninety two nine. Next game it was Washington and
Speaker 1: it was over after three quarters, seventy nine percent, the
Speaker 1: Giants eighty eight percent, and then they pulled back. That
Speaker 1: second Giants game, he only played fifty five snaps. So
Speaker 1: you got Lawrence there, I just shut it. Yeah, So Lawrence.
Speaker 1: New Orleans was first game, wasn't it. New Orleans was
Speaker 1: the first game he paid. He played fifty two point
Speaker 1: nine percent, so half the snaps, and then sixty nine
Speaker 1: sixty three, forty one, sixty five and thirty nine two
Speaker 1: and that was the last game. It didn't matter. So
Speaker 1: so you're looking at six at max sixty percent of
Speaker 1: the snaps or a defensive end right and and you
Speaker 1: could always you move them, you could put them at
Speaker 1: defensive end every now and then, but it also don't
Speaker 1: tip it off. But also you want to be in
Speaker 1: a position where you've got quality linebackers, Like if you
Speaker 1: want to play him on a certain where you've got
Speaker 1: a base defense out there of a basically a four
Speaker 1: to three whatever where you got Layton Vanderish and Jabril
Speaker 1: Cox on the field at the same time with Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons where they can play linebacker. Well, he's lining up
Speaker 1: as an edge rusher and you're not tipping your hand
Speaker 1: what you're doing, or you know, still you got that
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil spot in the nickel where which you Brill
Speaker 1: Cox can play that where you can be in a
Speaker 1: nickel and he can still be an edge rusher and
Speaker 1: you've got two linebackers on the field to be able
Speaker 1: to stop the run. Which would be an interesting scenario
Speaker 1: if they get to twenty four and a linebacker or
Speaker 1: two is available, you know, would you do it? Layton
Speaker 1: vanderis on a one year deal. You're hoping Jabril Cox
Speaker 1: comes back to be the guy they thought he was
Speaker 1: after his age. Hey, there's I mean, there's how much
Speaker 1: how much talk has there been out there, all you
Speaker 1: gotta go sign Bobby Wagner. Yeah, you know, well that
Speaker 1: tells that tells tells you that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of fans out there who believe they need a linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and or just because it's Bobby Wagner. But but if
Speaker 1: you get a first round Bobby, a rookie Bobby Wagner, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and save like he would only cost you against the
Speaker 1: cap the first year, probably a million and a half
Speaker 1: two million dollars instead of eleven that it looks like
Speaker 1: Wagner is looking for and one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: I think Stephen Joins Jones put it out the sounding
Speaker 1: like they moved on from that. Then Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: that's another consideration. And that linebacker from Georgia, you got
Speaker 1: him into the Kobe Yes, Kobe Deane. I like him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like him too. Plus he he he checks the
Speaker 1: boxes another in character as well. Yeah, so those things
Speaker 1: that that that will come up. But having Parsons is important.
Speaker 1: And the other point I was going to make, I know,
Speaker 1: we're running out of time the Cowboys when they basically,
Speaker 1: you know, Randy Gregory goes to Denver. Now a lot
Speaker 1: of people thought, well, he averaged fourteen million a year.
Speaker 1: They got all that money to play against the cap
Speaker 1: well his first year cap charge in Denver, and it
Speaker 1: was basically the same contract the Cowboys had was only
Speaker 1: six million dollars. So Jerry looked at it as okay,
Speaker 1: we didn't get that six million, but we took that
Speaker 1: money and got three players, got Dorince Armstrong, Dante Fowler,
Speaker 1: and Layton Vanderish. And I looked it up and those
Speaker 1: guys combined cap hit for this year is eight point
Speaker 1: two million. So the six million they had for Gregory,
Speaker 1: they ended up with three players, and that was his choice.
Speaker 1: Although I just saw he's having rotator cuff surgery Gregory is.
Speaker 1: I just heard it this morning when I was driving
Speaker 1: in and it evidently came up after he signed the
Speaker 1: contract or whatever. They must have known. Well, when you're
Speaker 1: signing a contract like that, I can certainly understand how
Speaker 1: you might enjoy a rotator cuff. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of heavy lifting go that, you know. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so he's he's he's headed to surgery. But they qualified
Speaker 1: it as we got a three for one. Now is
Speaker 1: the talent the same? I don't know if those guys
Speaker 1: will combine for thirty some quarterback pressures. But he only
Speaker 1: had I'm not only but six sacks, right, Armstrong had
Speaker 1: five and considerably less snaps, so and sixteen sacks over
Speaker 1: the first seven years of his career or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, availability, that's right, that's very important. Okay, that
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