WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Call To Order 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.960 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:13.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.200 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.479 official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:29.000 and Nicky Spagnola, and here we are. It's time for 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.960 another edition of mix Shots and eventually Mickey Spagnola will 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.200 have his headset on and be ready for another week 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.960 of mix shots. We do not have Everson Walls this week. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:45.160 Everson has called out this week and we are here 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.120 for the next hour and talk about he's on ir 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.159 We do have obviously we do. You know I can 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:56.040 without my headset side as you can. When are we 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.000 going to open up the phone calls anytime you want, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.840 the time you want, any time you want, you want 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.280 to do it today? How about five two two nine 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:09.720 seven two. That's funny because we haven't mentioned it over 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.919 the course of year or two years, maybe ever since 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.840 well for sure since March thirteenth, twenty twenty, since the 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.360 pandemic hit. So much to talk about we do. But 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.479 I was like, you know what, just just spur the moment. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.800 We take me some questions out there. We ought to 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.399 take some phone calls since we don't have Everson to 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:35.880 fill up the airspace today here inside the SWBC podcast studio, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.480 it's March thirty. First, we're moving into April. And you 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:46.560 know what April means? The drafters? What's that crispy? The masters? 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:53.040 It beats the Yes, I've got it green jackets very goodly, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.440 right yep. And so the twenty twenty two Big Green 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.560 NFL Drag Scouting Notebook is filling up all right, by 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:04.160 the day, by the hour, and so about time we 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.200 started talking draft over the next few weeks, you've got 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.000 you got kickers in there. There are kickers in there, 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.760 all right. There's one from McKinney. There is huh, he's 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.480 from McKinney and he went to LSU. That's was gonna 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.320 get drafted. Um. I just read about him, Cade York, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.520 Cade York. He's kind of rated. I think the top 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.880 kicker and the second top kicker is from Dicker, Oh, Dicker, 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.560 the kicker, Dicker, the kicker from Texass. You know what, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.160 I didn't see his name on a list. He did 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.240 come out, you know, he started he started his career 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.120 strong at Texas yeah, he did not kick as well 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.920 late in his career. The guy from Alabama I saw 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.200 was listed and he he was I haven't got that 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.520 deep into I forgot his name. He didn't kick that much, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.680 but he kick. Yes, he was good at extra points. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.200 They didn't use him all that much. But yeah, I 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.120 didn't realize Kaide was from from here. He's from right 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.000 here in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. All right, we 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.320 had And the only reason I said that is when 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.280 Steven did his interview from the meetings and somebody asked 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.040 him about needs in the draft, and the first thing 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:21.040 he said was not needs, needs, not just the draft, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.640 but things they still need to work on it. And 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:30.160 the first thing that came out was kicker. And it's like, well, yeah, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.799 need a kicker, and they really don't. And you know what, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.320 there's really not much out there. I did a little 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:42.880 quick look and the top three guys that were unrestricted 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:48.320 free agents or considered Michael Badgeley bad How do you 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.400 say it badly? Did I say it? Right? Um? Chase 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.280 McLaughlin and Matt m and he was just released by 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:02.680 the Jets, who just and they also they had Eddie Pinero. Uh, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.280 he's in a battle. Is their line will be in 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.600 a battle there because he was a restricted free agent 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.760 and they went ahead and signed him and uh so 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.000 rather than him getting released out on the streets, and 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.240 so he's now I guess his herline is probably the favorite. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.000 I'm sure what the Cowboys want to do. I mean, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:24.880 they've got the is it Nagar Nigger the guy that 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.159 they did sign. That's a young kid. I don't think 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:32.760 he's kicked before. Um, yes, kicked before. I mean in 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:37.479 the NFL. I think he's kicked in one game. Well, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:43.360 this boll kicker who's never kicked, we don't have much experience. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:51.760 Uh yeah, um Nagar Chris Nagger Nagara he was from 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.839 I didn't write that down, but he was a street 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.280 free agent pickup kicker. So what they have to do? 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:04.760 Nice wonder um punter, punter? They got a punter, They 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.800 spent money, Yes they do. Uh. They probably want to 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.000 bring in a veteran and then I would think at 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.880 some point they draft one. You got four fifth round 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.440 draft which the sweet spot I think it probably is. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.360 Would Kade York last that long? I think I think 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.960 when you look in fact, the kicker for the Bengals, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.120 this year, who was basically one of their best players. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:30.760 He was a fifth round draft pick. He was a 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.039 fifth round draft pick. So that's kind of the sweet 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:38.760 spot unless you're Sebastian Janetkowski, right, unless and that guy's 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.400 coming out next year from Missouri. So the thicker kicker, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.520 the thicker kicker. Yeah, okay, and he's so he's good, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:51.799 he's real good distance. How do you know? I watch? Okay, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:57.920 I didn't realize Missouri got into scoring position unfortunately too 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:04.320 many times kicking m Chris Beam has alerted us that 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.360 we actually have a phone call. Would you like to 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.360 kick it off? So to speak with a phone call, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.719 do something different? All right, Chris, I threw a curveball. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.160 My server just resett it hung them up or not? 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.120 I got to turn around. Look at this, Chris Beam. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.159 You let us know when you have that server. And 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.720 if you drop kicker and you're listening at kicker, if 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.320 you drop caller and you're listening, call back again. But 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.040 just make sure you're good. That's right, because we haven't 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.599 done this in a while. That's that's right, all right? Okay? 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:43.480 Owners meetings in Florida this week, Um, listen to me 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.800 about overtime Okay, what did I say last week? Just 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.880 play football? That's what I say. Just play football, and 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.120 that's what they just I'll take it a step further 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.200 for you. Okay, okay, and just let us throw that 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.719 this out there, all right. The big what's the biggest 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:05.840 issue you with overtime? Play overtime? The biggest issue, The 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.160 biggest issue has been the biggest what they worry about 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.680 or what has been the biggest issue? That it was 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.280 that both teams didn't get a chance with the ball. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.160 So winning the coin flip was the biggest issue of overtime, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.320 right and now they think they've solved that because both 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.800 teams have an opportunity correct with the football. The thought 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.720 occurred to me, when you do, and I agree, just 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.160 play football, all right, Let's how about just extending the game. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.680 Forget the coin flip, forget resetting the end of regulation. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.840 I'm with you. How about at the if it's a 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.920 tie game, play football. You're just playing. You don't stop 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.680 you You treat the end of the fourth quarter like 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.080 it's the end of the third quarter. You put another 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.960 ten minutes on the clock, and yet you might team 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.520 might have the football and they might be down in scoring. Position. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.720 The only negative is you don't have the aspect in 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.160 a high game of trying to beat the clock to 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.559 kick that game winning field goal whatever. But the point 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.920 is you got to score anyway, right, and so what 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.200 difference does it make if you're trying to beat the 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.040 clock on it? Okay, there's there's the reason why we 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.360 have downs in football. There's there's still how do they 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.160 how do they handle it? In the NBA they play 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.840 a quarter right right, they play well, four minutes, four minute, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.800 five minutes, but they play foot basketball right right, it's 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.319 not sudden death. They didn't yuck it up. What does 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.679 the NHL do when they get to the playoffs? You know, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.240 it's sudden death, but it's not theirs one to score. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.520 But there's both, coin flip both both, yeah, both teams 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.720 because of the nature of those games. You play has 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.880 a chance with the ball you play hockey. What do 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.840 they do in soccer? They play two fifteen minutes overtimes 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.920 right before they get to the goofy and you've got 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.480 every opportunity to take the ball away from the right. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:02.760 Sudden death mech sudden death. It well without the all right, 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.040 but sudden death means it becomes sudden death whenever coin flip, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.440 but it also becomes sudden death if you just play 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.760 on right, right, and so you haven't taken away the 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.800 aspect of sudden death. You just continue to play the 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.920 game and all aspects of the game are still in 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.760 play this way. Okay, you have if you're on defense 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.000 at the end of the game, you got to stop them, okay, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.240 And there's and you have no argument. We're just extending 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.040 the game. So I don't understand why it hasn't even 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.360 been brought up that just just play like that and 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.720 take the coin flip out of it, right, Who cares? 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.760 And especially in the playoffs, right, especially in the playoffs, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.880 why why why do you have to get in a 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.600 hurry to end the playoff game. Let them play football, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.400 don't yuck it up, don't come up with well you 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.280 got to have a two point conversion. And that's not 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.080 the way you play the game. Play the game normal. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.800 I mean in hockey, I understand what they do in 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.120 the regular season. It's a long season, eighty two games 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.480 and they go three on three, okay, But in the 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.720 playoffs on seven in the NFL, yeah, But in the 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.680 in the playoffs, it's it's they play hockey, right, It's 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.440 it's sudden death. But seven on seven, you take these alignment, 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.040 take the take the alignment off the field. Yeah, well, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.520 they can't play more than sixty minutes. Those are big guys, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.160 and we don't want to tire them out, and you 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.600 don't want to run the football. Just seven on seven. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.400 Just throw the ball around, all right? Chris, you said 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.320 we have a phone call. I do. I have Kevin 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:35.839 and Uniontown, Ohio. Kevin and Uniontown, Ohio. You're the first 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:41.839 caller in a couple of years. Are mixed, guys? Good afternoon, guys, 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.800 Good afternoon. Sure, Hey, a couple of questions and then 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.560 I'll let you guys go and you to see what 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.000 you guys say. My here's a couple of my theories. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.240 One to me this year, I know we had to 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:56.920 clean up to the cap, and that seems like that's 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.120 what they're doing. Are they planning for more of a 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.480 next year turnaround instead of additional turnaround because I don't 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.760 see them. Definitely, we're not as good as we were 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.280 last year at this time, especially at certain positions. And Mick, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.760 do you see us signing an offensive tackle before the draft. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.880 Happens there's I know that the pickings are getting small 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.560 out there, but I can't see us going into the 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.880 draft right now with that kind of need. What's your thoughts. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.240 I think on the offensive tackle, they'll keep their eyes 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:33.680 open for a veteran on a one or two year 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.439 deal that doesn't cost a lot against the cap, that 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:45.640 doesn't preclude drafting a guy and saying, Okay, you know, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.000 this guy's got to start. I think it's open for competition. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.160 And then the other thing I think you have to 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.640 remember at offensive tackle is they you know, Terence Steele 0:11:55.760 --> 0:12:00.120 right now, if they played tomorrow as your starting right tackle, Now, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:05.160 who's the swing tackle. They're certainly hoping that Josh Ball 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.240 is what they thought he was drafting him in the 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.120 fourth round, so you've got to give him a chance. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.840 But I don't know that you could just rely on that. 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.280 So I think at some point in UM I think 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.400 Stephen Jones talked about it. You know, they're still looking 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.600 for you know, maybe it's an offensive lineman that's a 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:31.520 guard tackle and can compete for the starting job. But 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.680 I think that's where they are on that. And as 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:40.240 far as for the turnaround, UM, as you know, with 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.000 Cowboy fans. There's no such thing as a turnaround, right, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.840 They're supposed to win the division. And if you look 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.880 at the teams in the NFC East, aren't the Cowboys 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:58.120 gonna be favorite just because of the quarterback? Well? I 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.600 think that they're good enough to win the NFC East 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.520 right now, I mean who I was talking about? Sorry 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.800 make the interrupt you, but I wasn't talking about us 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.080 being I agree with you. I do believe that we're 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.439 the best team on paper an they nfcast. But is 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.760 that good enough for our head coach to keep his job? Well? 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.200 Is it his fault? I would say no? But you 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.160 know how that Yeah, yeah, I got you, I got you. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.640 I think they I think they can be good enough. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.000 And you got to let the season play out, right 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:36.400 because remember this thing and and um, I can't remember 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.880 if Jerry pointed it out or Mike pointed it out 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.640 at this time last year. How good were they? He 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.520 didn't have Michael Parson Jerry this time last year? Right, Yeah, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.080 Jerry pointed out. I agree with that totally. But you know, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.800 we were definitely stronger going to his wide receiver group 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.319 than we are today. You know what the I love 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:03.400 the opportunity. I love the word Mike McCarthy used opportunity. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.040 There's a lot of opportunity on this team. I don't 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.200 know if that's a good thing or not, but you 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.600 got to play it out and see, you know what 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.400 takes place. And yeah, I think wide receiver. And we 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.360 talked about it last week. Remember we kind of got 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.640 into offensive lineman or wide receiver and I was saying, well, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.080 I think the wide receiver is very important. And again, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.160 as Steven pointed out, yeah, you go into the draft 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.240 with what you want to do, and then what happens 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.320 if a Lamb or a Parsons is sitting there and 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.080 all of a sudden, your priorities change. Right now, we've 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.800 got a ways to go yet, I think, and that's 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.840 why I agree with you, But that's why I'm kind 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.040 of concerned. I don't want us not to bring in 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:53.440 a guard, you know, pick somebody out there free agency 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.440 and not go into this draft needing it something. I 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.760 like the idea of us being an egger draft of 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.440 what's the best player it is failable on their board, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.120 and not be compromised to have no choice but to 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.880 pick up a guard or center. If that's around you 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.080 want to go yeah and again, and it has to 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.720 be for a reasonable amount of money. And I know, yeah, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.800 well yeah, because right now we have you know, very 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.840 little little cash flow to do anything better, right, absolutely, 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.560 all right, Kevin, thanks a lot way to start things off. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.920 All right, We're going to encourage us to take more 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.280 phone calls, all right, So our multiple phone lines are 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.520 open for more phone calls. Which, by the way, on 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.920 and I did this for mix shot on Dallas Cowboys 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.239 dot Com for today. So you're going to be without 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:50.320 at wide receiver, right, You're without Marie Cooper, Cedric Wilson, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.480 Steven points out, and probably no Michael Gallup for the 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:59.080 first two or three games or six. Well we'll see 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:04.760 and and and you know Malik Turner, I mean he contributed, right, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:10.160 So I added up the catches of those four guys 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:19.640 one hundred sixty sixty three percent of the wide receiver receptions. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.360 Is no longer here or counting Gallup for the season opener, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.080 let's put it, okay. And then when it comes to touchdowns, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.560 those four guys combined for nineteen touchdowns. That was seventy 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:38.760 six percent of the wide receiver touchdown receptions. That's what's 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.800 missing right now. So if the Cowboys were to play 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:47.040 a game this Sunday, the wide receivers would be Ceede 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:52.480 Lamb Ceedee Lambton, James Washington, and Semi Fijoko Brown or 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:59.200 Noah Brown, those two four guys basically. And you know, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:05.919 Mike McCarry was somewhat impressed with James Washington, and he 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.280 said talking I hope he was more than somewhat well 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:15.399 sit talking to the people in Pittsburgh. They thought he 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.440 just needed a fresh start. And he also pointed out 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.840 that when he came out in the draft, it was 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:27.040 a second round pick from Pittsburgh, that the Cowboys had 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.200 a high grade on him coming out of Oklahoma State. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.760 So to be interesting to see, you know what he 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.600 can do if he gets I mean, he's gonna get 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.200 a chance. Right, this is his opportunity. It's a one 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:45.760 year deal. And you know, if he likes playing NFL 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.680 football two hours from his ranch or one hour from 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.520 his ranch, I guess it's a couple hours because it's 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:57.280 just west of Abilene. Then you know, this is his time. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.360 He's gonna get the opportunity. So he liked playing football 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.680 or baylan Hay, Yeah, right, which does he like better? 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.760 Who was the offensive lineman that quit on the Cowboys 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:12.680 back in the eighties, late eighties or early nineties, and 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.120 he was gonna go work in his father's roofing business. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.119 Changed his mind real quick after he got up on 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.800 that roof with a letter of degrees and when he 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.880 got his paycheck. Yeah right, Oh, you're just helping out 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.000 the family. Okay. So but anyway to Kevin's point, though 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:37.080 about is this team better now than it was a 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.920 year ago at this time? He's the caller, says no, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.440 Jerry said he likes is where this team is now 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.919 compared to a year ago at this time? What do 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.960 you think? Well, I think a year ago at this 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.080 time they were better off, right, But you know they 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.280 did add But no, we didn't know about the defense, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.840 and I don't know if the defense got better or not. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.600 It kind of they hold their own. They are counting 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.720 on young guys to step up now, Is that the answer? 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.680 Because you can't cover all your holes in the draft, right, 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.879 you only got one first year. And see that's the 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.840 thing in what Kevin would point out too. He would 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.880 like to and everyone would like for them to fill 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.160 those holes where you're not having to draft for need 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.280 in the draft. And that's been what the Cowboys practice 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.639 has been in free agency, where you sign enough of 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.359 veteran guys where you can go play. What you will 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.080 quickly point out is that Connor McGovern has started games before. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.640 You can go play with Connor McGovern at left guard, 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.679 and it's time, right, this is his fourth year. You know, 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:48.520 sitter whatever out the door. I mean, you can't use 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.760 a he was a third round pick, right, third round pick, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.960 fourth year, he got to be more than a part 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.679 time fullback, part time blocking tight end. Right. And then 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.480 there's the other thing about that is there will be 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:11.120 interior offensive linemen who are still out there who can 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.080 come in and start for you after the draft. Okay. 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:18.320 There the market is, the money's dried up right now, okay, 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.720 And so everybody's signing right now are signing veteran minimum deals. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.720 It doesn't do those veterans any good to go ahead 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.440 and sign now. They might as well at this point 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.800 because that all they're getting as a veteran minimum deal. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.760 They can they're going to get that same veteran minimum 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.560 deal whether they sign in May or March. Right at 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:40.040 this point, now, if you've got some starting experience in 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.959 this league as a veteran offensive guard or center, you 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.240 might as well. Wait there, we've seen before wherein OTA's 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.520 a guy will tear an ACL or whatever and that 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:55.080 their needs will arise. But and also from the standpoint, 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.960 there are teams like the Cowboys who are looking at Okay, yeah, 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.439 we might draft and a starting offensive guard with the 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.280 twenty fourth pick in the first round. But if Michael 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.720 Parsons is sitting there, or Ceedee Lamb is sitting there, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.480 and we don't get that Kenyon Green from Texas A 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.240 and M in the first round, all right, Now, we'll 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.920 go sign that veteran that's on the street still, right, 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:23.200 who has starting experience then, who actually will be more 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:28.399 better equipped to play better snaps for you this year 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.119 than a rookie would coming in. And that's was the 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.480 logic of signing Dante Filer junior. Right, Okay, let's bring 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.720 in a veteran guy at defensive end just in case, right, 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.280 and then we'll see what comes up in the draft. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.440 So they kind of filled in there. They fill in 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:51.080 with Malie Cooker at safety. It's only a one year deal. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.120 Two years, two years, two years, eight million, that's right. Yeah, 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.160 but they filled in with him last year, signing him 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.840 during the season, and he proved himself and he's back 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.520 from his injury and he's and they felt good enough 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.320 about him that they signed him to a two year deal, 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.320 just like they did with Curse. Curse was a guy 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.359 who was a fill in, and he turned out to 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.320 be their leading tackler on the team last year. I 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.560 think the biggest disappointment. I mean, look what they did 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.600 on the offensive line. They did it of their own volition, right. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:23.600 They decided at right tackle that Terrence Steele could step 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:31.160 in for Lale Collins at far less money than collins 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.560 ten million dollars base salary, right, and and Jerry pointed 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.679 it out. He said, you know, that's fine to have 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.000 guys that make that much money, but you got to 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.840 play to that level. And I got a feeling they 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.440 don't think Laale Collins played at that level. That's why 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.280 they let him go. They didn't have to do that. 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.320 They did it on their own volition, that's right, because 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.200 the salary cap savings was not there in that case 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.840 with with Loo Coolin and the same thing with Cooper. 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.199 And I also think with Collins they're probably concerned his 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.600 hip situation, right, that has flared up here in the 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.160 last game, and they made the decision to let Cooper go. 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.320 You know, they could have figured it out, but they decided, no, 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.479 We're going to move forward. And I saw where they 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:17.159 got criticized for only getting a fifth right, But here's 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:22.000 the deal. Number One, teams knew that if if the 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.400 Cowboys didn't trade them, they were going to cut them. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.440 So they're not going to give you a bunch of money. 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.360 I mean a bunch of draft picks. I mean, he's 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.480 not Tyreek Hill. Right. There was a deadline on that too. 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.280 He roster bonus the fifth day of the new year. 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.399 And the other thing is the team that trades for 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.960 him has to inherit that twenty million dollars base salary. 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.399 So now it's like, Okay, I'm taking them on, but 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.120 I'm not paying you a whole bunch of money. It's 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.159 the same thing that Cleveland's going through right now with 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.960 Baker Mayfield. Right. There are teams that would take Baker 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.040 Mayfield on, but they're not. He has a guaranteed eighteen 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.119 million dollar salary this year because they picked up the 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.080 fifth year option, and so Cleveland is on the hook 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.639 for that right now, right and there's no team win 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.000 their right mind right now because there's no there's no 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.040 vacancy at the quarterback end in the league right now, 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.359 there's no team that's going to take on that eighteen 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.480 million dollars for Bakingfield. It's guaranteed, Yeah, it's guaranteed, fifth 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.080 year options guarantee, eleveland's got themselves right the only way 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:25.520 they keep that's right. And so if I'm trading for him, 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:30.719 I'm starting with Okay, I'll give you a seventh What 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.639 are you gonna do? You want to absorb that contract 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.840 and the new contract that you just promised and guaranteed 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:44.680