Speaker 1: Scotty. First, let's go Scotty. It says here that you
Speaker 1: have been actively committing marriage fraud for money, and you've
Speaker 1: been doing it for a year now, and you are
Speaker 1: not worried in the slightest that you will get caught.
Speaker 1: What exactly is marriage fraud?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: Geck, in my job, you're married, you get paid significantly
Speaker 3: more money. Really, you get uh yeah, more than double.
Speaker 3: So me and one of my buddies from oh I've
Speaker 3: known for a very very long time since like kindergarten,
Speaker 3: so over a decade, decided to just get married. And
Speaker 3: now I make a bunch of money and I buy
Speaker 3: him thinks sometimes and it all works out good for.
Speaker 2: The both of us.
Speaker 1: Now, when you say you decided to get married, what
Speaker 1: is the fraud element of this? Are you and your
Speaker 1: buddy legally married?
Speaker 2: We are?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Scotty, I I have news for you. If
Speaker 1: you and your buddy are legally married, there is no
Speaker 1: fraud being taken place.
Speaker 3: I guess that's true, but it could still get me
Speaker 3: in trouble.
Speaker 1: Why would that get you in trouble?
Speaker 3: Well, if they they found out at work then that
Speaker 3: I just married to get paid, then I could definitely get.
Speaker 4: In some trouble.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because, okay,
Speaker 1: what's the whole point of Well, first of all, what
Speaker 1: what job do you work where they pay you double
Speaker 1: for getting married? I haven't heard of that before. I
Speaker 1: know that there's like tax benefits or whatever, but I
Speaker 1: haven't I've never heard of a job paying you extra
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily double. So I'm in the military, and
Speaker 3: they give you an allowance for housing that house your spouse,
Speaker 3: and then they give you some other like allowance and
Speaker 3: stuff if you are married.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, so let's think about the core purpose of
Speaker 1: this program that they have or whatever it is, where
Speaker 1: they give you money to give to the person that
Speaker 1: you're married to. You said up front that you'd buy
Speaker 1: nice things for your husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean that's what that's what the money's for.
Speaker 1: The money's for you to buy nice things for your spouse,
Speaker 1: whom you're legally married to. I I I don't you
Speaker 1: know what I want to get to the point. What
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to get to is where are
Speaker 1: you committing fraud? Here? You married this guy and now
Speaker 1: you're entitled to the benefits that your job is offering
Speaker 1: to married people.
Speaker 3: You know, That's that's an argument that I've heard some
Speaker 3: people make too, because like at work, I have to
Speaker 3: kind of go around the fact that I'm not gay
Speaker 3: because when I tell people, like especially that have rank,
Speaker 3: they like ask me questions about my husband and stuff,
Speaker 3: and you know, I have to. I've definitely told quite
Speaker 3: a few people that I'm bisexual. But like, do I
Speaker 3: really have to do that? Because nowhere does it say
Speaker 3: that I can't get married for a particular reason, Like.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be gay to get married to
Speaker 1: a man. You, I mean, you did it. You're not
Speaker 1: gay and you're to a man.
Speaker 2: It feels nice too.
Speaker 5: I love him.
Speaker 3: Also, I love my husband a lot.
Speaker 1: I again, you love him again? Not not also not
Speaker 1: a prerequisite for getting married. But Scotty, why do you
Speaker 1: feel as though you're committing fraud here?
Speaker 3: Maybe because it's like, well, I think I don't actually
Speaker 3: think it's fraud. I think that's kind of just like
Speaker 3: a a joke that I like to make about it.
Speaker 3: But in some sense, I guess, maybe just from what
Speaker 3: people at work have told me, the kind of like
Speaker 3: shame you for doing that? Well not some people. Some
Speaker 3: people think it's hilarious and a great idea, but other
Speaker 3: people think it's a terrible thing. Do you think you're
Speaker 3: bringing off the army feeling the government?
Speaker 1: Would you say, do you feel like it's a terrible
Speaker 1: thing and that you're ripping off the government?
Speaker 3: No, I think it's a great thing. I work my
Speaker 3: ass off and you know that that is what it is.
Speaker 3: I take my job seriously.
Speaker 1: And what does your husband and do? What does he
Speaker 1: sort of think about all this? How did he react
Speaker 1: to when you first pitched him the idea?
Speaker 3: We thought he was joking, and I kind of like
Speaker 3: pulled them the details of it and told him like
Speaker 3: the benefits you know he gets, like healthcare and stuff,
Speaker 3: and then he was on board pretty much right away.
Speaker 1: So my final question, I think we both.
Speaker 3: Time no, go ahead, Oh, I was kind of going
Speaker 3: to like hear the conversation a little bit different directions.
Speaker 3: I think both of us kind of think that the
Speaker 3: idea of marriage is not like stupid, but we don't
Speaker 3: either one of us really even agree with traditional marriage.
Speaker 3: So you think it's.
Speaker 1: So you are adverse to the idea of getting married
Speaker 1: for the purposes of tradition at some point in your life.
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like, like, if you love somebody and that's
Speaker 3: who you want to spend the rest of your life with,
Speaker 3: why do you have to sign a paper that like
Speaker 3: binds you to that, you know, just do that just
Speaker 3: in the rest of your life with them, love them.
Speaker 3: Do you want to have kids?
Speaker 2: Do that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: So my final question is, Okay, you've been married to
Speaker 1: you you say you've been married to your husband for
Speaker 1: about a year. How long do you anticipate this marriage
Speaker 1: will last? Do you guys see a divorce sometime in
Speaker 1: the future or will you be married forever?
Speaker 3: Uh? Probably just when I get out of the military.
Speaker 3: We'll just file for divorce and then that'll be that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that it will upset your husband when
Speaker 1: you eventually divorce him. Do you think he enjoys being
Speaker 1: married to you and would be devastated by the idea
Speaker 1: of a divorce.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling Scotty.
Speaker 2: All right bye low.
Speaker 1: Huh. You know, honestly, the way that he put all
Speaker 1: of that, like he just made it sound really easy,
Speaker 1: which makes sense. I mean, theoretically, you should be able
Speaker 1: to marry a stranger. Pretty fat. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no downside to it. I guess he just made
Speaker 1: it sound so easy.
Speaker 2: Chat.
Speaker 1: Does anyone want to get married for like a day,
Speaker 1: just for fun, just to have a wedding, just because
Speaker 1: it would be nice? Hi? Dustin?
Speaker 2: Hello? How are you?
Speaker 1: Dustin? Hello, Dustin, it's me. It's the gag.
Speaker 5: Oh ship.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: I was not expecting that.
Speaker 2: What's up? Man? Uh?
Speaker 1: What's up? Nothing much? I'm chilling. It's uh, it's an evening.
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Dustin?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, sorry, yeah, sorry for the you know, redundant
Speaker 5: question that you probably get every time.
Speaker 1: You owe me nothing. You you have no reason to
Speaker 1: apologize for me just yet. Well, Dustin, listen, it's us
Speaker 1: here that you want to know whether or not you
Speaker 1: should make amends with your dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Pretty much Like I mean, there's been a long you know,
Speaker 5: I'm forty, Well, i'll be I'll be forty in.
Speaker 2: Me m my dad's like seventy five or seventy six.
Speaker 5: And he's like screwed me over a lot in my
Speaker 5: life and I've tried to make amends with him throughout
Speaker 5: the years, and he just keeps screwing it up and
Speaker 5: tissing me off.
Speaker 1: How has he screwed you making me.
Speaker 2: Not want to be in his life?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you only start to okay, like I mean,
Speaker 5: I just say, well, I could go all the way
Speaker 5: back to when I was a kid, or you know,
Speaker 5: or like well okay, yeah, I'll trying to make a
Speaker 5: short and.
Speaker 1: Sweet sure.
Speaker 2: I was gonna. Uh.
Speaker 5: I was putting a foster home when I was seven
Speaker 5: years old because my dad knocks me unconscious and put
Speaker 5: like a golf both sides not on my forehead because
Speaker 5: I would not listen to him. It took he told
Speaker 5: me three times and not going into the bathroom. My
Speaker 5: sister was five years old than me, while she was
Speaker 5: taking a shower and I was drawing on the mirror
Speaker 5: and he, you know, he told me three times not
Speaker 5: to go in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: He knock unconscious.
Speaker 5: I was in a fosterone for any for like a
Speaker 5: year and a half or so, and then moved back
Speaker 5: in with him after that, and you know, and then
Speaker 5: suffered you know, abuse, physical abuse and all that stuff became,
Speaker 5: you know, moved out because when I was twelve eleven twelve,
Speaker 5: like left the house like I was homeless living on
Speaker 5: the streets because I was afraid to go home.
Speaker 1: You were you were homeless living on the street at.
Speaker 5: Twenty Yeah, yeah, because I was afraid to go home,
Speaker 5: like you know, like I yeah, you know, and yeah that's.
Speaker 2: This is all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I can give you specific city care, you know,
Speaker 5: Like like I like slept in between my dad's house
Speaker 5: and my neighbor's house.
Speaker 2: It was like this little nook.
Speaker 5: And it was one time where my dog's stable smelled me,
Speaker 5: like because like you know, you know, she recognized my smell,
Speaker 5: and she started barking at like the corner of the
Speaker 5: floor because she could smell me, and she started barking
Speaker 5: just at the floor, and my dad kind of just
Speaker 5: got this, like, what the hell, why does the sable?
Speaker 2: Why is our dog?
Speaker 5: Why does the dog keep barking to this one little spot?
Speaker 2: Okay? And I'm like shut up.
Speaker 5: So I was trying to sleep and because I was
Speaker 5: terrified to get home because it's you know, some stupid
Speaker 5: something people that I did at school. But I would
Speaker 5: have got the ship kicked out of me for it,
Speaker 5: you know, if I were went home. So you know,
Speaker 5: I lived with my mom for a while until I
Speaker 5: was you know, seventeen eighteen, which you know, those years
Speaker 5: weren't great. Mom drug addict, my dad alcoholic, So make
Speaker 5: sure a great dynamic, you know. I you know, I
Speaker 5: get hit eighteen and that you know, the one thing
Speaker 5: I did like appreciated my dad is that he like
Speaker 5: he tried to like put a foot in my a,
Speaker 5: get me going, but he just went about it the
Speaker 5: wrong way.
Speaker 2: You know. So you said he tried too hard.
Speaker 5: He tried too hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So you're telling me you have an appreciation
Speaker 1: for the fact that your dad, uh was like you know,
Speaker 1: it sounds like, I mean just from like what you've
Speaker 1: just told me now that you feel as though you
Speaker 1: understand his intentions with all of this, like yeah, but
Speaker 1: he met well, but that he just did it in
Speaker 1: a fucking terrible way.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, And and and but when when I,
Speaker 5: you know, turned eighteen, I moved to Louisiana with him.
Speaker 5: He was Michelle Matte Louisiana to Louisiana with him, and
Speaker 5: I lived with him, and you know the first day
Speaker 5: I was there, I got you know, like literally the
Speaker 5: first day I was there, I would and apply to windows.
Speaker 5: He got a job, you know, he was doing good.
Speaker 5: I was super proud of me. I was happy because
Speaker 5: my dad was proud of me, you know, my dad,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: And I still respected him, you know, fucked up.
Speaker 5: As that is, you know, and because he's my dad,
Speaker 5: you know. And and I was, you know, like and
Speaker 5: got another job, was working, was working in when Dixie,
Speaker 5: you know, stocking groceries. Got another job at.
Speaker 2: A mill shop, learning how to weld.
Speaker 5: You know, working two jobs, working almost eighty hours a week,
Speaker 5: and I was going to welding school. I was like
Speaker 5: I turned into like a workahol. Like I went from like,
Speaker 5: you know, this lazy kid, and then I went moved
Speaker 5: in over dad. And that was because my dad was
Speaker 5: pushing me to do all this stuff. And he wasn't
Speaker 5: being an ass. He wasn't being like he's a shit
Speaker 5: about it at first. And then after I saved up
Speaker 5: like seven thousand dollars in the bank when I was eighteen,
Speaker 5: you know, my dad just kind of like he quit
Speaker 5: his job because he was like, oh, my son's got
Speaker 5: like seven grands to the bank. I can just like,
Speaker 5: you know, mooch off of him. And yeah, and and
Speaker 5: he doesn't he doesn't acknowledge that. And and I was
Speaker 5: pretty weak too at that time because my dad, like
Speaker 5: I was buying my dad's liquor, ya you know, I
Speaker 5: was supporting his habit. Yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Paying his rent.
Speaker 5: Like he just quit his job and became like basically
Speaker 5: just a full time drunk. Yeah, and like you know,
Speaker 5: we've gotten fights and stuff, you know, and I was
Speaker 5: just like two weeks I was, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: it was two weeks to tell him no until the
Speaker 5: time I left. And when I did finally leave, you know,
Speaker 5: it was I took the eaty way out, you know,
Speaker 5: That's what he told me.
Speaker 2: I took the easy way out. I left. I went back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long? How long? How long did you stay?
Speaker 1: And how long were you were you supporting him for?
Speaker 1: You said from the age of eighteen to two about what
Speaker 1: age six.
Speaker 5: To four months?
Speaker 1: You know, it's all kind of blurry, okay, and so
Speaker 1: and so I interrupt you about but why did why
Speaker 1: why was it considered by you or by him to
Speaker 1: be the easy way out?
Speaker 6: Because my dad would push me to do you know,
Speaker 6: to be like, you know, to do what I need.
Speaker 6: Like my dad he always he was a pusher, you know,
Speaker 6: he like, like that's one thing I do is thank
Speaker 6: my dad.
Speaker 2: For is my work. As a sure, I've always.
Speaker 5: Been like hard worker, you know, like I like ever
Speaker 5: since I've been like twelve. You're like, I was incarcerated
Speaker 5: for like six months when I was sixteen for breaking
Speaker 5: in the house, and I was like one of the
Speaker 5: most respected people there among the staff because of how
Speaker 5: hard of a worker I was. And you know, and
Speaker 5: he just like every job that I've ever had, Like
Speaker 5: for my first job, like you know, from when I
Speaker 5: got out of that boot camp, I got a job
Speaker 5: at a brick mason crew, you know, and I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, highly respected among the you know, the thirty
Speaker 5: forty year old men.
Speaker 1: Because so so okay, So so I went back back
Speaker 1: to start of the timeline here. So you're eighteen, Yeah, dad,
Speaker 1: quitch is your dad quits his job. You're supporting him,
Speaker 1: and then you decide I bounce. You decide to bounce,
Speaker 1: and then where do you Where do you go after bounce?
Speaker 5: I go back home with my mom who's living in
Speaker 5: the crackhouse with a crackhead boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I lived there.
Speaker 5: For you know for a while, until I like, you know,
Speaker 5: tell a friend of mine, you know, tells him he
Speaker 5: needs a roommate. And then, you know, a good job
Speaker 5: doing free work. And I'm eighteen, you know, I'm nineteen
Speaker 5: twenty at this time, you know, doing you know, we're
Speaker 5: doing free work. But uh, I mean we can I
Speaker 5: think we can fast forward to to like today.
Speaker 1: Sure, let's fast forward to today.
Speaker 5: So okay, from that time, from that time to now,
Speaker 5: me and him didn't really have much contact. Okay, you know,
Speaker 5: like right now and then we talk, but other than that,
Speaker 5: really niche contact, you know, until the hurricane the last
Speaker 5: hurricane the hit like a few months ago.
Speaker 2: Actually.
Speaker 1: The last hurricane, last hurricane that hit where.
Speaker 2: In Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the hurricane hits Louisia, then did he reach out?
Speaker 5: I drove, Well, no, Well, we were we were kind
Speaker 5: of talking. We were kind of like, you know, how
Speaker 5: did we have a report going? We were being cordial
Speaker 5: to each other, you know, and trying to get back
Speaker 5: in our good graces, you know. And and I, you know,
Speaker 5: I actually and I found out that he didn't have
Speaker 5: any power when the hurricane, you know, hit, and so
Speaker 5: I drove to Louisiana and I went and picked him
Speaker 5: up and brought him to my house. You know, so
Speaker 5: he wasn't there in Louisiana without any power. And this
Speaker 5: is like twenty twenty one. The hurricane, Yeah, the hurricane
Speaker 5: you know there was I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2: And you know, I brought him back here.
Speaker 5: He stayed with me for a you know, for like
Speaker 5: a week and a half, two weeks.
Speaker 1: And how was that week? And happen two weeks?
Speaker 2: Oh with Hill?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, all I did was brag about how great
Speaker 7: he was, you know, so like you know, he's like
Speaker 7: to my to my my girlfriend, you know, well, you know,
Speaker 7: wife or whatever.
Speaker 5: He did together for almost ten years he was got married.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he just you know, like she would tell me,
Speaker 5: like how all he did like while I was gone
Speaker 5: is talk about how you know, great of a person
Speaker 5: he was, and you know it was. Yeah, it was
Speaker 5: pretty unbearable, you know, because he tried to lecture me
Speaker 5: and stuff, and we got in a couple of arguments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he tried to lecture Now he's like a seventy
Speaker 5: five year old man.
Speaker 1: It says. It says that you're not sure if you
Speaker 1: should try to make amends with him before he died.
Speaker 5: I haven't even gotten to the part where I've really
Speaker 5: gotten pissed off at him, because there was.
Speaker 1: Like, what what what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What was it that.
Speaker 2: I broke my back about six months ago?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm like, and I my my career as
Speaker 5: a welder has kind of ended. And now I'm like,
Speaker 5: now I'm an uber driver and I'm doing okay.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not home, you know, like I'm doing
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 5: But my dad knew I was struggling. He and I
Speaker 5: guess he had a little bit of extra money and
Speaker 5: he knew I needed tire. He bought me some tires
Speaker 5: when he got went back to Louisiana. When he he
Speaker 5: went back to Louisiana, and he wired me some money
Speaker 5: to buy some tires, and and he told me he
Speaker 5: wanted proof. He wanted me to take a picture of
Speaker 5: the receipt to prove that I bought these tires. And
Speaker 5: I told her, I was like, fuck you. You know,
Speaker 5: you robbed me. You know, I like, I paid for
Speaker 5: you when I was eighteen years old, when I like,
Speaker 5: we had an agreement when I was a kid that
Speaker 5: I could come live with you and you would help me,
Speaker 5: you know, And now you're polnician on me because you know,
Speaker 5: I'm you know, I need a little help. And I
Speaker 5: didn't even ask for the money he offered it. I
Speaker 5: would not I would not have asked for the help.
Speaker 5: He offered the money. So I'm not gonna you know,
Speaker 5: I needed it. I'm not going to tell him no.
Speaker 5: So I, you know, I accepted the money. And then,
Speaker 5: oh and then I didn't even go to the tire
Speaker 5: place that he wanted me to go to. He wanted
Speaker 5: me to go to Firestone and I could get the
Speaker 5: same time as at Walmart for like twenty to thirty
Speaker 5: dollars cheaper and pay left labor, thank him. And I'm
Speaker 5: probably getting too specifically, but yeah, but uh, but he
Speaker 5: got pissed at that, and he went off on me
Speaker 5: for doing it, and he and and all, you know,
Speaker 5: for yeah, for not going to.
Speaker 1: I can ask how long ago. I can ask how
Speaker 1: long ago? How recently this was?
Speaker 5: Oh, this is a few months, this is a few
Speaker 5: months ago.
Speaker 1: There was a few months, three months ago. So sost
Speaker 1: to fast forward to fast forward to today. You're talking
Speaker 1: about whether or not you want to make amends with him.
Speaker 1: At least that's what you told the call screen there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there anything in particular that happened in the last
Speaker 1: Like I don't know a week or or recently what
Speaker 1: that made you sort of I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's like a a thing that made you
Speaker 1: come to this realization of like I either need to
Speaker 1: make amends with him or not, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: is there anything like seventy five?
Speaker 5: He's like seventy five? He's you know, he's he's about
Speaker 5: to kick the bucket, sure, you know, and he and
Speaker 5: he's a miserable, lonely old man. Yeah, because he's he's
Speaker 5: pushed everybody away from him and I'm really like the
Speaker 5: only person that he really has left, you know, And
Speaker 5: I kind of feel bad, you know, like I feel
Speaker 5: like I should I shouldn't be ignoring him because he's
Speaker 5: been calling me, and I feel I feel bad for
Speaker 5: ignoring him. But do you.
Speaker 1: Feel like throughout my life, do you feel like do
Speaker 1: you feel like making amends with him would make because
Speaker 1: you know, I know that, like you know, you feel
Speaker 1: bad because again, he has his own like you know,
Speaker 1: bullshit that he's dealing with and you're the only one
Speaker 1: he has. But like, do you feel like making amends
Speaker 1: with him would make you feel better.
Speaker 5: A little bit. Yeah, Like, but I really I'm still
Speaker 5: gonna be pissed at him, you know, I'm you know, like,
Speaker 5: but and a part of me wants to just like
Speaker 5: fucking disinvent to him and tell him all the fucked.
Speaker 2: Up shit that he's done to me.
Speaker 5: That's not really gonna help anything, you know, because my
Speaker 5: dad's kind of a narcissist. He was He's actually been
Speaker 5: diagnosed like with borderline personality disorder and you know, narcissistics
Speaker 5: all that stuff. And I'm sure I got I probably
Speaker 5: inherited some of that stuff. Like I you know, I've
Speaker 5: dealt with alcoholism, I've dealt with drug addiction, but I've
Speaker 5: kind of I've overcome all that stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I still enjoy drinking, but I don't get so drunk
Speaker 5: that I black out and all that stuff, you know,
Speaker 5: Like I can drink aew beers and be fine. And
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just.
Speaker 1: About Do you have kids? It sounds like there's like
Speaker 1: I'm hearing I'm hearing like voices in the background.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a I have I have
Speaker 5: a six year old son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a six year old son.
Speaker 5: I do have a tiwo ure old time and yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, I'm I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 5: been wanting I've been wanting to do this for a while,
Speaker 5: you know, and uh, because I I I signed on
Speaker 5: signed up to Reddit actually like a month ago, and
Speaker 5: your video was one of the first ones that, like,
Speaker 5: I was just scrolling on Reddit just trying to figure
Speaker 5: out how it worked. Your video, your live stream popped
Speaker 5: up on Reddit and I was like, yeah, that's a
Speaker 5: cool as hell. And ever since then, I was, you know,
Speaker 5: I thought it'd be cool to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Well, dude, you know, here's I guess. I guess, for
Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth, my my sort of take on it.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously this is like a entire, entire,
Speaker 1: entire life thing that I, you know, can't reasonably I.
Speaker 5: Just dropped dropped sload on you.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, Well, I have I have a
Speaker 1: I have a thing. And I'm sure you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're a smart guy. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you anything you don't know, but like the
Speaker 1: fact that you have a son, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: this is cool, right because now you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: like your parents we're fucking shitty to you, and that
Speaker 1: that hurt you, and you're obviously still dealing with that hurt.
Speaker 1: And I feel like you have this, like you have
Speaker 1: this opportunity to like take all of those feelings and
Speaker 1: like all that anger and all that sadness and all
Speaker 1: you have, you can, like you now can transmute it
Speaker 1: into something positive, right, because you're gonna go, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: my parents fucking sucked, but now I have a kid,
Speaker 1: and I love my kid, and I'm gonna make I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use all these feel all these negative feelings to
Speaker 1: fuel me to make sure that I give my kid
Speaker 1: a great, great life. And that's gonna be my motivator,
Speaker 1: just to just every single day, like you know, be
Speaker 1: the dad that you wanted your dad to be. You know,
Speaker 1: you sort of have this opportunity right to like right
Speaker 1: the wrongs in your relationship with your son.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm yeah, I'm really And you know there are
Speaker 5: there have been times where like I've gotten mad at
Speaker 5: my son and like I see my dad and.
Speaker 1: Me yeah sure, and it really ASTs me. M hm.
Speaker 8: Hm, Like I got feel ashamed of myself. What you
Speaker 8: said is truly I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: How do you, how do you how do you feel
Speaker 1: about how do you feel about all of that? What
Speaker 1: I just said?
Speaker 5: No, he's like you hit me man, Like it's pretty
Speaker 5: much like how I feel.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, that doesn't make you sound like I mean,
Speaker 1: you sound like a good dude, man, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I know that you as you said, you like he
Speaker 1: probably inherited some of that stuff from your dad. But
Speaker 1: like again, man, you sound like a good dude, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that you didn't get the kind
Speaker 1: of life that you know that you that I can
Speaker 1: tell you want to give to your kid. I can
Speaker 1: tell you're a good dude, and you don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give your kid a good life.
Speaker 5: I've always felt like I didn't belong in the society
Speaker 5: that I was growing up in, if that makes sense sure,
Speaker 5: because I was like, you grew up in this poor, shitty, white,
Speaker 5: trash fucking society, and I like, I don't know, I
Speaker 5: just I didn't really want to be around any of
Speaker 5: the people that I was around, So like you know,
Speaker 5: like you know, it sucked, you know, I mean, I like,
Speaker 5: like I said, you know, like growing up with my family,
Speaker 5: I've just never really cared for any.
Speaker 9: Of them, and.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of separated myself from all of them, you know,
Speaker 5: except my younger sister.
Speaker 1: It's really only do do you keep keep in good
Speaker 1: touch with your younger sister?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, like you but she's always
Speaker 5: you know, hitting me up, you know, because her life sucks.
Speaker 2: In my life is.
Speaker 5: You know, a little better than hers, you know, like
Speaker 5: he constantly bumming money off from me. But she's not
Speaker 5: on drugs or anything like that. She's doing the best
Speaker 5: you can. She has been on drugs and she got
Speaker 5: you know, she got clean. She's doing the best you can.
Speaker 5: You know. You know, I have I have my older sister,
Speaker 5: who's you know, you know, who's taking a shower. She's
Speaker 5: a she's a heroin outic in Texas, you know, or
Speaker 5: I'm you know, like we're fitting all or whatever the fuck,
Speaker 5: you know, she does all that shit, and she, you know,
Speaker 5: is constantly messaging me on Facebook.
Speaker 2: You know, why want to talk to her?
Speaker 5: Like I don't, you know, I have nothing to talk
Speaker 5: to you about.
Speaker 1: You know, like.
Speaker 5: The yeah what you said, like you know, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: pretty much how I feel.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I do want to give the best life of my son,
Speaker 5: and it's me breaking my back. I used to skateboard.
Speaker 5: I broke my pelvis like fifteen years ago, and it,
Speaker 5: you know, it sucked me up for like six months
Speaker 5: to a year, you know, but I thought I healed,
Speaker 5: you know, and I continued to work, you know. And
Speaker 5: then now that I'm forty, like, I can barely even
Speaker 5: you know, I can barely lift you know, forty pounds.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of screwed me up. But I'm you know,
Speaker 5: I'm taking classes online and you know, trying to figure
Speaker 5: something else out, you know.
Speaker 1: Destin, I was gonna you know, as I was, as
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I mean, it sounds like you're doing
Speaker 1: the best that you can, dude. Like, and I know
Speaker 1: you said that you lose patience sometimes sometimes you see
Speaker 1: your dad and yourself and all that stuff. But like
Speaker 1: but like again, I can just tell and I feel
Speaker 1: like people listen to as they can tell that like
Speaker 1: within you is is is a very very genuine desire
Speaker 1: that I think is more powerful than whatever it is
Speaker 1: that you feel like you inherited from your father or
Speaker 1: whatever physical limitations that you're dealing with right now. Is
Speaker 1: very very genuine, powerful desire to give your son a
Speaker 1: good life, and I I believe that that desire will
Speaker 1: win in the end and that you'll be able to
Speaker 1: do that, you know, so I hope you take that
Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, yeah, it means a lot to me. Man,
Speaker 5: it's cool talking to you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm so kind
Speaker 5: of like surprised that I got too so quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, you know, is there anything else that you
Speaker 1: want to say about any of this or any final thoughts,
Speaker 1: feelings or sentiments to share before we go?
Speaker 5: I just really appreciate the ba tire man, Like, it
Speaker 5: was was cool talking to you, and like what you said,
Speaker 5: you know, it meant that meant a lot to me. Man, Okay,
Speaker 5: it made me cry, you know, because like that hit me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know.
Speaker 5: You're just just a get but uh but yeah, dude,
Speaker 5: like you you know were I mean? And I like,
Speaker 5: we all have our problems, man, you know, and I
Speaker 5: don't you know, like we all deal with our ship
Speaker 5: in different ways, and you know, we all yeah, Like
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm not very articulate sometimes neither of mine. Yeah,
Speaker 5: except see when I'm kind of emotional, and it made
Speaker 5: me emotional.
Speaker 2: And actually this whole.
Speaker 5: You know, situation is you know, I kind of think,
Speaker 5: you know, like I'm surprised to hold it together as
Speaker 5: well as I did explaining this whole situation. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: uh yeah, it was cool talking to you.
Speaker 1: Man, and like I'm yeah, great talking to you too,
Speaker 1: and again just to say it, just to say it
Speaker 1: one final time, okay, just to say it one final time.
Speaker 1: I I I believe in you, Okay, I think I
Speaker 1: think I think, like I could just tell again people
Speaker 1: listening to just can just tell like you you have
Speaker 1: that genuine desire to do good by your son, and
Speaker 1: I I I think you will act act well by
Speaker 1: that desire. I believe in you.
Speaker 5: That's cool to hear that, man, And yeah, I kind
Speaker 5: of I feel I feel that way. I mean, I
Speaker 5: have my doubts you know, of course, like everybody does,
Speaker 5: you know about youself.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but uh yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Try to, you know, just persevere, persevere and push on
Speaker 5: and you know, and do the best I can and
Speaker 5: be the best dad you know I can. And and
Speaker 5: luckily you know, he doesn't. He's not a broken home,
Speaker 5: you know, so that helps.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for calling Dustin once again. Man,
Speaker 1: Good luck to you.
Speaker 5: All right, Thanks man, good talking to you, dude.
Speaker 1: Good talking to you.
Speaker 5: So have a good night, alright, you two man?
Speaker 1: Hello? Is this Jason? It is Jason. It says here
Speaker 1: that there is a toilet paper shortage in your in
Speaker 1: your house and it is causing a lot of conflict
Speaker 1: between you and your roommates.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's been tough just kind of deciding on
Speaker 9: who's going to buy the toilet paper. It's been four
Speaker 9: to eight all right.
Speaker 1: So before we get into anything, what is your philosophy,
Speaker 1: because there's many different ways of thinking about this, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to set this up. Sure,
Speaker 1: if it's for do how many how many people?
Speaker 5: Is it.
Speaker 1: Five plus five of you guys sharing one bathroom two bathrooms?
Speaker 9: So three upstairs, two downstairs?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay? And is it one bathroom in particular that's
Speaker 1: experiencing a toilet paper shortage or is there a general
Speaker 1: toilet paper shortage because people from the when the downstairs
Speaker 1: bathroom runs out of toilet paper, people will go to
Speaker 1: the upstairs. What is the sort of distribution of paper?
Speaker 3: Sure, so we.
Speaker 9: Had like a like a big collection of toilet paper upstairs,
Speaker 9: like probably sixteen seventeen rolls and then like you know,
Speaker 9: we have people come over and then like the upstairs
Speaker 9: passing a little bit more, a little bit, a little
Speaker 9: bit cleaner. So the downstairs then ran out of toilet paper,
Speaker 9: came upstairs, took some of the upstairs, which is fine, yeah, Sharon.
Speaker 9: And now we've resorted to we're friends with our neighbors.
Speaker 9: So now we we have covert operations and we go
Speaker 9: to the neighbor's house and steal their toilet paper.
Speaker 1: So there's several different schools of thought as to how
Speaker 1: this could be arranged. Right, you could say, one person
Speaker 1: buys a thing of toilet paper in full, and then
Speaker 1: whenever that toilet paper disappears, another person buys, and then again,
Speaker 1: and then another person buys, and then again and you
Speaker 1: sort of go in this rotation. Or there's a there's
Speaker 1: a school of thought where every time new toilet paper
Speaker 1: needs to be bought, everyone equally pitches in for new
Speaker 1: toilet paper at each buying of the toilet paper. Or
Speaker 1: and this is the one that will cause a war.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the one. The school
Speaker 1: of thought that you guys have been subscribing to. You
Speaker 1: do some form of calculating who uses the most toilet paper,
Speaker 1: and the onus is on that person to replenish it,
Speaker 1: and that causes lots and lots of conflict of you know,
Speaker 1: who used how much and whatnot. So at this current moment,
Speaker 1: what what is the school of thought that your house
Speaker 1: has been using.
Speaker 9: Wow, you know, I'm gonna be honest, I hadn't thought
Speaker 9: about that third one, because there certainly is like a
Speaker 9: mass distribution as far as you know, people you know,
Speaker 9: rates for cooping and such. It was going out within
Speaker 9: the household, and the thing is like we're all employed,
Speaker 9: Like we all totally could just go buy the toilet paper.
Speaker 9: Now it's just bag. It's like, oh, who's going to
Speaker 9: do it? You know, like certain people have more roles
Speaker 9: in the past than others, and so like distributing, distributing
Speaker 9: that out, trying to figure that out. But like, there definitely, yeah,
Speaker 9: is some people who put more in the house.
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about it that way, don't.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even brought up the idea because you're not
Speaker 1: gonna win that fight. Oh, because we used to do
Speaker 1: that in my house and I was the one who
Speaker 1: used the most toilet paper, and I vehemoately denied it
Speaker 1: to the end, as will the person who uses the
Speaker 1: most toilet paper, and you will not win that fight.
Speaker 1: So what is the rift that you are describing it
Speaker 1: like between you and your roommates the rift is causing?
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, it's it's it's funny, I mean not not
Speaker 9: like it's like it doesn't just doesn't happen all the time.
Speaker 9: But it's like there's definitely like like little like scheming
Speaker 9: teams you know going on. Like people are like one
Speaker 9: of one of us will be in the kitchen, another
Speaker 9: person will walk down and be like, oh man, we're
Speaker 9: on a toilet paper. Can you believe you know, the
Speaker 9: other people haven't bought it? And then you know, like
Speaker 9: everybody like I have that, I've had that conversation with everybody,
Speaker 9: so like, you know, it's it's going around m hm.
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of chicken being played as
Speaker 1: to who will buy the toilet paper.
Speaker 9: For sure, and like again, you know, it's not like
Speaker 9: we can't afford toilet papers, so like like we all
Speaker 9: could do it, and I like don't know if we
Speaker 9: all think it's funny at this point or if we're
Speaker 9: all like actually a little like passive drestive about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you all thinking it's funny. It
Speaker 1: is a little funny to see how long you can
Speaker 1: go without having toilet paper in the house, and the
Speaker 1: pettiness of one person won't just buy toilet paper. It
Speaker 1: is a pretty funny situation to revel in. I agree.
Speaker 9: And the crazy part is is that we had, like
Speaker 9: we were sitting on the couch like a couple months ago,
Speaker 9: and we were like, yo, we should buy it the day,
Speaker 9: and we bought and installed it the day. But the
Speaker 9: day recently became unusable. And so I think that now
Speaker 9: that I'm like sitting here putting on all the gather
Speaker 9: excessus and dan chats that used the day, I think
Speaker 9: it's it's the.
Speaker 2: Lack of the day.
Speaker 9: Maybe that we're cruising through our toilet paper at a
Speaker 9: faster rate.
Speaker 1: M I've never personally been a fan of the day,
Speaker 1: but I understand it from a point of view of conservation.
Speaker 1: So all right, so you no, go ahead.
Speaker 9: I was just it said, did you go into the
Speaker 9: day with an open mind? Because I feel like a
Speaker 9: lot of people don't go into it with an.
Speaker 1: Open mind, you know, I totally, I totally did not
Speaker 1: go into it one of the with an open mind.
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to try again, but but not any time,
Speaker 1: not anytime soon. But but so okay, so you all
Speaker 1: have been playing this, this game of chicken, and it's
Speaker 1: really gonna be up to at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: one guy to break and go fuck this and go
Speaker 1: aheut and buy toilet paper. Do you think that you're
Speaker 1: getting to that point whose the group will break first?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 9: I think the person who's gonna break is gonna be
Speaker 9: the person who's gonna be like the most adult about
Speaker 9: the situation, because I definitely have like a couple of
Speaker 9: them who like probably won't do it. And that's fine,
Speaker 9: you know, I get it. It's cool. I think it's
Speaker 9: gonna be me or my other roommate honestly, who's gonna
Speaker 9: break first.
Speaker 1: Mm hm. So I want to hear from your perspective,
Speaker 1: why won't you just go.
Speaker 3: By to.
Speaker 4: Honestly?
Speaker 9: Because well, I thought about doing it today and I
Speaker 9: was like working, and then I had class and I
Speaker 9: was like, I don't feel like doing it, And honestly,
Speaker 9: it just came down a way to it. Even though
Speaker 9: I was out and about today earlier, I probably could
Speaker 9: have done it. And then I got home and we
Speaker 9: were out of toilet paper. It was actually pretty funny
Speaker 9: because I saw that we were almost out of toilet
Speaker 9: paper earlier when I went to the bathroom and I
Speaker 9: was like the last role I knew we had in
Speaker 9: the house, and there was probably like six or seven
Speaker 9: squares on it, and so I used like three or
Speaker 9: four and then that way, I wasn't, you know, the
Speaker 9: a hole who took the last little piece of pilet paper,
Speaker 9: So then I could kind of bond that.
Speaker 2: Off on somebody else.
Speaker 1: M So it sounds like this is coming that makes
Speaker 1: me that my bad person.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, No, you're you're actually pro very strategic in that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's me planning off on
Speaker 9: somebody else.
Speaker 5: The you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: All's fair and toilet paper and war.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 9: There's there's no wars like earlier. Excuse me, there's no
Speaker 9: rules right.
Speaker 1: Like, So it sounds like it's not coming from a
Speaker 1: place of because it's coming from a place of laziness.
Speaker 1: For you, it sounds and not a place of why
Speaker 1: should I have to you know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: a place of of of of feeling like it's not
Speaker 1: just for you to have to go buy toilet paper.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think too, you know, a little bit. But
Speaker 9: there also, like definitely are certainly other places in the
Speaker 9: house where it's like, Okay, why do I have to
Speaker 9: do this? And so I think it kind of transfers
Speaker 9: over then to the toilet paper because I feel like
Speaker 9: sometimes I do like a lot more than a lot
Speaker 9: of my other roommates and things, and so then I'm like,
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 1: Right, so there is a little bit of that, and
Speaker 1: it seems like it's justified. Right, You're doing all these
Speaker 1: other things in the house. I assume you're washing dishes,
Speaker 1: you're vacuuming, you're doing all the more adult things, and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, god, damn it, why do I have
Speaker 1: to be the paper too?
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly when I know that, like, wow, I won't
Speaker 9: bash Like I love my roommates, don't get anyone. They're
Speaker 9: all awesome guys, and they're like some of my closest friends.
Speaker 9: But yeah, it definitely does have a lot like that.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Jason, you know, being the adult of a house,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a thankless job. So you know,
Speaker 1: good on you for for taking of it.
Speaker 2: That's true. That is true.
Speaker 9: You know, maybe maybe you can learn something from your mom,
Speaker 9: because every day I went upstairs in high school brand
Speaker 9: your toilet paper roll.
Speaker 4: On the thing.
Speaker 1: We're really taking our parents for granted.
Speaker 9: I think we do have you did you d end
Speaker 9: up calling your mom earlier?
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling. Jason, appreciate it.
Speaker 10: Every night, man, you as well, Paul from Sammy Sammy, No,
Speaker 10: no way, Samy.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 9: Man? Not much?
Speaker 10: I kind of figured you're going to be streaming with
Speaker 10: calls tonight, expecting the doctor someone else do for you.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I normally have a call screener, but tonight
Speaker 1: I am as they say, going in raw.
Speaker 10: I did have a question for you, Yeah, please, what's up?
Speaker 10: I wanted to know what your thoughts are on imposter syndrome.
Speaker 10: You have to have a cool job. Yes, I think
Speaker 10: I heard you think yesterday that you're only twenty four.
Speaker 10: I am I expected you to be older than that.
Speaker 1: How old did you expect me? A bit?
Speaker 10: I don't know, maybe later twenties. But you just seem
Speaker 10: to be in a position where you're doing something cool
Speaker 10: that you like.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 10: And I am not gonna lie to you. I haven't
Speaker 10: been feeling very cool lately, been feeling more failure ask
Speaker 10: although we're doing better, but wondering if you've ever dealt
Speaker 10: with that, and or if you have any tips or tricks.
Speaker 1: I literally, I literally if I if I were like
Speaker 1: a cool streamer person and I knew how to like
Speaker 1: zip zop zoom around my computer and pull things up,
Speaker 1: I would show you. I literally googled I have imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1: Read it today. I literally googled that. Today. I can
Speaker 1: find Reddit, uh the streams of people or Reddit threads
Speaker 1: of people talking about having impost syndrome. You have the
Speaker 1: fuck time of imposter syndrome. That's why I'm Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have these live shows coming up. I'm super nervous for them.
Speaker 1: I'm always the thinking like, why the fuck is anyone
Speaker 1: coming to see me? I'm always thinking like, why the
Speaker 1: fuck is anyone listening to my podcast? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about that stuff.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 1: A tremendous imposter syndrome. What gets me going is I
Speaker 1: do have like every once in a while I come
Speaker 1: out of here and I'm like, and I'm just a
Speaker 1: fully one hundred percent sure. I'm like, that was a
Speaker 1: great stream. I'm really good at this, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: and I just feel good and then I get high
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I'm just the best. I'm sick.
Speaker 1: I am the only person that could ever be therapy Gecko.
Speaker 1: It happens sometimes. I'm not gonna lie that that happens sometimes.
Speaker 1: But the default is probably I don't know what I
Speaker 1: would say the default is, but no, heavy, heavy, heavy
Speaker 1: amounts of imposter syndrome for sure. I literally not check.
Speaker 1: I literally googled it today because I was trying to
Speaker 1: read about it, like this is a common thing, like
Speaker 1: to other people feel like this.
Speaker 10: You know, well, I think I think it's honestly helpful
Speaker 10: to hear people who like you think are successful say like, no,
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't really feel like that all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think here, uh, because I
Speaker 1: want to be accurate to this. There are a couple
Speaker 1: of things I think I'm really good at, but but
Speaker 1: this I phased it out. I I just have times
Speaker 1: all the time and I'm on here and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I suck at this. And it's so funny that you
Speaker 1: called and asked me that, because I always wonder that
Speaker 1: about people that I think are successful as well, like
Speaker 1: how they feel about it, Like do they are they
Speaker 1: like stoked on themselves, or are they like I hope
Speaker 1: nobody realizes that I kind of suck at this. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 10: I have this thing with social media right now. I
Speaker 10: had to delete it off my phone for a while,
Speaker 10: and I just recently got back on. And I feel
Speaker 10: like all I'm seeing is everyone else around me and
Speaker 10: like their great achievements and like, you know, how happy
Speaker 10: they all look and how much fun everyone's having. And
Speaker 10: I'm like, well, I'm not having that much fun. And
Speaker 10: I think maybe that should be my sign to delete
Speaker 10: social media again.
Speaker 1: I really thought that. I was like, I was like
Speaker 1: the people who listened to my you know, I was
Speaker 1: thicking the other day. I was like, the people who
Speaker 1: listen to my I mean now they do, but the
Speaker 1: people who like listen to my podcast and watch my
Speaker 1: streams or stuff, they have no idea. That I cried
Speaker 1: in my car yesterday, I thought that. As I was
Speaker 1: crying in my car, I was like, they have no idea.
Speaker 1: It's kind of sick.
Speaker 10: I walked down the street yesterday and cried. Really well,
Speaker 10: when I think, I think, well, I thought I was
Speaker 10: going to fail a class. Yeah, there was a little
Speaker 10: bit of stress going on. Yeah, a lot of it
Speaker 10: of stress.
Speaker 1: Actually, No, definitely. What okay, So you said you feel
Speaker 1: like a failure.
Speaker 10: A little bit?
Speaker 2: What don't?
Speaker 1: What does it? What does the success look like to you?
Speaker 10: Well, I I go to a what I would I
Speaker 10: go to a pretty competitive school and we have this
Speaker 10: this interesting program where you can go and you can work.
Speaker 10: You basically get a job for six months and then you
Speaker 10: go back to school. And so it feels like everyone
Speaker 10: around me is like a very competent young professional. Yeah,
Speaker 10: and like I'm twenty two. I'm not like a kid anymore.
Speaker 10: I'm not like a teenager. And I'm I'm gonna be
Speaker 10: graduating hopefully next December if I don't fail this class.
Speaker 10: And I'm I'm genuinely just trying to like get by
Speaker 10: on a day to day basis, you know, like I'm
Speaker 10: trying to not be miserable and not not like wake
Speaker 10: up sad and like you know, remember to eat and
Speaker 10: move my body. And it's like everyone else around me
Speaker 10: is like they have like a full time job and
Speaker 10: they're doing research and they're also taking classes.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's no, it's so annoying, isn't it. It's
Speaker 1: so annoying when you go to someone's house and like
Speaker 1: they don't have like fucking empty water bottles and candy
Speaker 1: wrappers everywhere, and you're like, fuck, am I the only
Speaker 1: one that fucking lives like this?
Speaker 10: And shit, I know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1: No, you're totally not the only one. You're totally not
Speaker 1: the only one. And there's probably here's the thing, there's people,
Speaker 1: by the way, everyone loves to say this and it's
Speaker 1: not true. I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's not true. I shouldn't have said it's not true
Speaker 1: because my feelings on its truth are constantly developing. But
Speaker 1: people like to say, like everybody has something going on,
Speaker 1: you know, they like to say the truth, the genuine
Speaker 1: truth is there are totally people who are more competent
Speaker 1: than you. Uh, they're always will be Uh those people
Speaker 1: who people you know, people love to say. They love
Speaker 1: to say the people who are posting on social media
Speaker 1: about how much fun they're having, then I actually they
Speaker 1: might they might be that person who just posted about
Speaker 1: going to fucking the club with her friends, and how
Speaker 1: was the great? Maybe she really did have an awesome time.
Speaker 1: That's it could be true. But here's the thing is
Speaker 1: that that's the wrong. I hate that. I hate when
Speaker 1: people say that, oh, they're not actually having a good time,
Speaker 1: because that's not that's miss that's totally missing the point.
Speaker 1: That's just completely misses the points.
Speaker 10: I would feel like the point should be, Please, I
Speaker 10: shouldn't care.
Speaker 1: No, you shouldn't care exactly, shouldn't care. It's not even
Speaker 1: it's not relevant.
Speaker 10: It's not relevant at all to my life in my
Speaker 10: potential future success. No, but it's so hard. I think
Speaker 10: it's hard. I just think I just need to get
Speaker 10: rid of it. I need to not see it. But also,
Speaker 10: you know, maybe I would like to get to a
Speaker 10: point where I can see it and then I can
Speaker 10: just be happy for them.
Speaker 1: Yes right now? Yeah, I mean, like I would say,
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I would say, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna I don't think anyone would ever tell
Speaker 1: you that deleting your social media would be destructive for
Speaker 1: your mental health. I think, uh, like, I think you
Speaker 1: would definitely be happy or not being online if I could,
Speaker 1: if I didn't have all this shit going on. I
Speaker 1: would I dream it all the time. I literally like,
Speaker 1: will fantasize a boy like, oh man, whatever, like I
Speaker 1: like fall off or whatever it is. I could just
Speaker 1: delete all and then just go to the moon or whatever.
Speaker 1: The fuck. It'd be sick anyway. Uh alright, but you're right.
Speaker 1: You were right about part two where you were like,
Speaker 1: you want to get to that point where it's not
Speaker 1: even about avoiding it, it's about the It's almost like
Speaker 1: the opposite. It's like you want to be able to
Speaker 1: like see that girl from your fucking sorority or whatever
Speaker 1: that's like hanging out in Cabo and having fun, and
Speaker 1: you want to be like you want to be able
Speaker 1: to look at that and go, man, it's awesome that
Speaker 1: she's having hanging on Caba. I hope she's having an
Speaker 1: awesome time.
Speaker 5: You know, it's great.
Speaker 1: That it could for her. You know, I would. I
Speaker 1: would take that a step that I would take a
Speaker 1: higher I would make that your aspiration like even higher
Speaker 1: than like ignoring it is being able to actually do
Speaker 1: the opposite and put it in your face and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person got a promotion, this person got this job,
Speaker 1: like that's awesome for them, that's so great. I'm so
Speaker 1: my heart is so full of endless love for the
Speaker 1: universal people that I'm just so happy for everyone. I'm
Speaker 1: happy all the time. I have infinite joy at the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm able to sit here and breathe and
Speaker 1: drink a fucking cup of water, that I have no
Speaker 1: need for uh, jealousy at this person that you know
Speaker 1: that went to the moon today or whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: like to keep talking about the moon, but.
Speaker 10: No, I mean that's the reality I want to live in.
Speaker 1: Same dude, And it seems like.
Speaker 10: You want to go to the moon.
Speaker 1: No, I don't give a fuck about it. No, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that I would love to go to
Speaker 1: the moon. I'll probably die not ever having gone to
Speaker 1: the moon, but it's nice to think about.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I think your chances are higher now than they've ever
Speaker 10: been before.
Speaker 1: You're probably right about that. You're definitely right about that.
Speaker 1: My chances are going to the moon are higher than
Speaker 1: they were before. They are higher than they were a
Speaker 1: few years ago. What do you feel about how this
Speaker 1: conversation went.
Speaker 10: I am genuinely excited to tell my boyfriend that I
Speaker 10: talked to a few weeks ago. For my spring break.
Speaker 10: We traveled from North Carolina to Florida in a car
Speaker 10: and we had like a twelve hour road trip on it.
Speaker 10: On the way back, we we listened to your podcast
Speaker 10: almost the whole time. Thank you, and I became a
Speaker 10: huge hymn benefensive See the.
Speaker 1: Fact how many how many episodes of the podcast did
Speaker 1: you listen to?
Speaker 10: A lot? I wasn't. I haven't been on Twitch. I
Speaker 10: didn't really know fully like the whole deal with Twitch
Speaker 10: until like literally a few weeks ago, and I think
Speaker 10: I've probably watched you the most.
Speaker 1: See that's great because sometimes I look at the podcast
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't believe anyone's listening to this,
Speaker 1: And there we go, you're listening to it.
Speaker 10: So no, I certainly was listening to it perfect.
Speaker 1: So there we go. There, that's that's that's that's yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, uh, yeah, I have a ton
Speaker 1: of imposter syndrome.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna follow that up by saying, I
Speaker 1: think everyone does, but I don't think everyone does. Even
Speaker 1: if they do, it doesn't matter. We're just all doing stuff,
Speaker 1: walking around, drinking water, hanging out, being people until we die.
Speaker 10: Doing our best.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Sammy? Sammy? There's anything you want
Speaker 1: to tell the people the computer before we go or say,
Speaker 1: or I.
Speaker 10: Hope you go to the moon some day if you
Speaker 10: really want to do that.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Have a nice night you as well.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hello is this Andrew?
Speaker 9: Holy shit?
Speaker 1: Wow, Andrew? It says here your work in construction. You
Speaker 1: got into a debate with your coworkers about what direction
Speaker 1: people wipe their ass, and you'd like to share the
Speaker 1: outcome of this debate. Now, first of all, tell me
Speaker 1: what side of the debate were you on?
Speaker 4: Oh shit, man, that was, like, I'm gonna disclaim this
Speaker 4: first off, is like probably the hottest button issue I've
Speaker 4: ever gotten into, Like more so than like vaccinated, unvaccinated,
Speaker 4: fucking whatever set of politics people fall on. This is
Speaker 4: probably the most heated I've ever been in a debate
Speaker 4: in my life.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you a questions. What is First
Speaker 1: of all, tell me when you say that the debate
Speaker 1: is over what direction people wipe their ass, is it
Speaker 1: a binary debate between top to bottom and bottom to
Speaker 1: top or have there been some third parties of left
Speaker 1: to right, right to left.
Speaker 4: I wish I could report that, I'll be honest, not
Speaker 4: too many people wanted to chime in on it, and
Speaker 4: if they did, I think they were bullshitting because they
Speaker 4: seemed to just align with what seemed most normal at
Speaker 4: the time. But it all started when you know, it's construction,
Speaker 4: so like pretty much nothing's off limits. And my boss
Speaker 4: was telling me. This ramps up pretty quickly. He was
Speaker 4: telling me about how his wife shaved his asshole the
Speaker 4: other weekend, and then that pretty much just quickly spiraled
Speaker 4: into like just taking care of yourself down there, I
Speaker 4: guess would be the next thing. And then no one
Speaker 4: ever directly asked the question.
Speaker 1: Don't ever ask the question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't ever directly. It was more just like you.
Speaker 1: Have with your boss. It seems like it's very casual
Speaker 1: and very brotherly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's a couple of years older than me.
Speaker 4: I was his boss on a project like a year
Speaker 4: ago is when it started, and that's when I first
Speaker 4: met him, and we we kind of we bonded, and
Speaker 4: then he actually got promoted. Now he's my boss.
Speaker 9: And I'm like his uh, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like his his fucking super secretary. I guess that's what
Speaker 4: you would call it.
Speaker 1: You guys sound like you're very good friends. So I
Speaker 1: also tell me, so tell me, so tell me what
Speaker 1: side of the debate are you on?
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm gonna I'm gonna spend a lot of people here.
Speaker 4: I am a I'm a back to front wiper, always
Speaker 4: have them.
Speaker 1: And so you're talking about the event, there's probably top
Speaker 1: to bottom.
Speaker 4: Not top to bottom. So that's that's kind of I
Speaker 4: think where the confusion lies. And I know ten thousand people.
Speaker 1: Tell me where does this start?
Speaker 4: So I start on top, just right in the middle,
Speaker 4: just right on it, and.
Speaker 1: It's just.
Speaker 4: It's just like a short, little come hither motion. And
Speaker 4: then I just dropped the paper, you know, and you
Speaker 4: you know, you know what you got. You know, first wipe,
Speaker 4: you know what you got, you know what you're dealing.
Speaker 1: Do you look at the paper before?
Speaker 4: Sometimes? Sometimes not always, Like like I said, you kind
Speaker 4: of know what you got, generally, sure you know.
Speaker 1: And so you're a top to bottom. And then I
Speaker 1: assume that the popular sentiment around town, around the rest
Speaker 1: of your construction work bodies is a sentiment of back
Speaker 1: to front or yes frontman, yes sorry.
Speaker 4: It and it kind of spiraled into like a a
Speaker 4: gender thing for a minute, and I was like, no, no,
Speaker 4: this is strictly on the male side, don't I don't
Speaker 4: advocate any females doing this. And I think that that's
Speaker 4: probably like culturally the most agreed on thing, but for men,
Speaker 4: completely different set of rules. We have a lot more
Speaker 4: room to work with down.
Speaker 1: There, right, because there's a possibility of recur of infection
Speaker 1: for women.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, I.
Speaker 1: Know about the body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hm hmm.
Speaker 1: So all right, it's all said and done. You had
Speaker 1: a little bit of it in the midst of all this,
Speaker 1: In the midst of all this, tell me.
Speaker 4: So, in the midst of all of it, we had
Speaker 4: unveiled probably some crazier stuff than what I was expecting,
Speaker 4: Like did you know a population of people don't fold
Speaker 4: the paper. There was even a debate on how much
Speaker 4: paper to fold. Some people just wad that ship up.
Speaker 4: Just tell me, he just fucking grabs it and just
Speaker 4: waste paper, just pulls huge, huge water And I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yes, radio and he.
Speaker 1: To who raised you five times? I use it? Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: That's a good it's pretty good stat Actually, I would
Speaker 4: say for me, it's like once.
Speaker 1: A month once. You only talk a toy that once
Speaker 1: a month.
Speaker 4: Dude, Yeah, that ship pretty frequently, like at least at
Speaker 4: least once a day.
Speaker 1: What are you starting to get? Yeah, Andrew, thank you
Speaker 1: every much for sharing your perspective on this hop ut
Speaker 1: in the ship.
Speaker 4: I hope that uh people don't judge people for this,
Speaker 4: and I hope that it starts a new conversation, you know,
Speaker 4: in the office if if you have the balls to
Speaker 4: bring it.
Speaker 5: Up every weekend goes on the line making your phone calls.
Speaker 9: Every night every week and goes to a d S
Speaker 9: teaching you
Speaker 1: Aloud in your life is not really