1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Scotty. First, let's go Scotty. It says here that you 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: have been actively committing marriage fraud for money, and you've 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: been doing it for a year now, and you are 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: not worried in the slightest that you will get caught. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: What exactly is marriage fraud? 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: So? 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: Geck, in my job, you're married, you get paid significantly 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: more money. Really, you get uh yeah, more than double. 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: So me and one of my buddies from oh I've 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: known for a very very long time since like kindergarten, 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: so over a decade, decided to just get married. And 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: now I make a bunch of money and I buy 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: him thinks sometimes and it all works out good for. 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: The both of us. 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Now, when you say you decided to get married, what 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: is the fraud element of this? Are you and your 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: buddy legally married? 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: We are? 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Scotty, I I have news for you. If 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: you and your buddy are legally married, there is no 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: fraud being taken place. 22 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: I guess that's true, but it could still get me 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: in trouble. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Why would that get you in trouble? 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: Well, if they they found out at work then that 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: I just married to get paid, then I could definitely get. 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: In some trouble. 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because, okay, 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: what's the whole point of Well, first of all, what 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: what job do you work where they pay you double 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: for getting married? I haven't heard of that before. I 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: know that there's like tax benefits or whatever, but I 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: haven't I've never heard of a job paying you extra 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: for that. 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily double. So I'm in the military, and 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: they give you an allowance for housing that house your spouse, 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: and then they give you some other like allowance and 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: stuff if you are married. 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, so let's think about the core purpose of 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: this program that they have or whatever it is, where 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: they give you money to give to the person that 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: you're married to. You said up front that you'd buy 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: nice things for your husband. 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean that's what that's what the money's for. 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: The money's for you to buy nice things for your spouse, 47 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: whom you're legally married to. I I I don't you 48 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: know what I want to get to the point. What 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to get to is where are 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: you committing fraud? Here? You married this guy and now 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: you're entitled to the benefits that your job is offering 52 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: to married people. 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: You know, That's that's an argument that I've heard some 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: people make too, because like at work, I have to 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: kind of go around the fact that I'm not gay 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: because when I tell people, like especially that have rank, 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: they like ask me questions about my husband and stuff, 58 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: and you know, I have to. I've definitely told quite 59 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: a few people that I'm bisexual. But like, do I 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: really have to do that? Because nowhere does it say 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: that I can't get married for a particular reason, Like. 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to be gay to get married to 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: a man. You, I mean, you did it. You're not 64 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: gay and you're to a man. 65 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: It feels nice too. 66 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: I love him. 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: Also, I love my husband a lot. 68 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: I again, you love him again? Not not also not 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a prerequisite for getting married. But Scotty, why do you 70 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: feel as though you're committing fraud here? 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: Maybe because it's like, well, I think I don't actually 72 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: think it's fraud. I think that's kind of just like 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: a a joke that I like to make about it. 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: But in some sense, I guess, maybe just from what 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: people at work have told me, the kind of like 76 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: shame you for doing that? Well not some people. Some 77 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: people think it's hilarious and a great idea, but other 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: people think it's a terrible thing. Do you think you're 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: bringing off the army feeling the government? 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: Would you say, do you feel like it's a terrible 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: thing and that you're ripping off the government? 82 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: No, I think it's a great thing. I work my 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: ass off and you know that that is what it is. 84 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: I take my job seriously. 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: And what does your husband and do? What does he 86 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: sort of think about all this? How did he react 87 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: to when you first pitched him the idea? 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: We thought he was joking, and I kind of like 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: pulled them the details of it and told him like 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: the benefits you know he gets, like healthcare and stuff, 91 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: and then he was on board pretty much right away. 92 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: So my final question, I think we both. 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: Time no, go ahead, Oh, I was kind of going 94 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: to like hear the conversation a little bit different directions. 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: I think both of us kind of think that the 96 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: idea of marriage is not like stupid, but we don't 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: either one of us really even agree with traditional marriage. 98 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: So you think it's. 99 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: So you are adverse to the idea of getting married 100 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: for the purposes of tradition at some point in your life. 101 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah. 102 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: I feel like, like, if you love somebody and that's 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: who you want to spend the rest of your life with, 104 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: why do you have to sign a paper that like 105 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: binds you to that, you know, just do that just 106 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: in the rest of your life with them, love them. 107 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: Do you want to have kids? 108 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: Do that? 109 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: Well? 110 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: So my final question is, Okay, you've been married to 111 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: you you say you've been married to your husband for 112 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: about a year. How long do you anticipate this marriage 113 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: will last? Do you guys see a divorce sometime in 114 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the future or will you be married forever? 115 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: Uh? Probably just when I get out of the military. 116 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: We'll just file for divorce and then that'll be that. 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that it will upset your husband when 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: you eventually divorce him. Do you think he enjoys being 119 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: married to you and would be devastated by the idea 120 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: of a divorce. 121 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, beautiful. 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling Scotty. 123 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: All right bye low. 124 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: Huh. You know, honestly, the way that he put all 125 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: of that, like he just made it sound really easy, 126 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: which makes sense. I mean, theoretically, you should be able 127 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: to marry a stranger. Pretty fat. I mean, there's no 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: there's no downside to it. I guess he just made 129 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: it sound so easy. 130 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Chat. 131 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Does anyone want to get married for like a day, 132 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: just for fun, just to have a wedding, just because 133 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: it would be nice? Hi? Dustin? 134 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: Hello? How are you? 135 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Dustin? Hello, Dustin, it's me. It's the gag. 136 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 5: Oh ship. 137 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: Wow. 138 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: I was not expecting that. 139 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: What's up? Man? Uh? 140 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: What's up? Nothing much? I'm chilling. It's uh, it's an evening. 141 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Dustin? 142 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 143 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, sorry, yeah, sorry for the you know, redundant 144 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 5: question that you probably get every time. 145 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: You owe me nothing. You you have no reason to 146 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: apologize for me just yet. Well, Dustin, listen, it's us 147 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: here that you want to know whether or not you 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: should make amends with your dad. 149 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 150 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: Pretty much Like I mean, there's been a long you know, 151 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: I'm forty, Well, i'll be I'll be forty in. 152 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:03,239 Speaker 2: Me m my dad's like seventy five or seventy six. 153 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 5: And he's like screwed me over a lot in my 154 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: life and I've tried to make amends with him throughout 155 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: the years, and he just keeps screwing it up and 156 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 5: tissing me off. 157 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: How has he screwed you making me. 158 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: Not want to be in his life? 159 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 5: Well, I mean you only start to okay, like I mean, 160 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: I just say, well, I could go all the way 161 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: back to when I was a kid, or you know, 162 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: or like well okay, yeah, I'll trying to make a 163 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: short and. 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: Sweet sure. 165 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna. Uh. 166 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: I was putting a foster home when I was seven 167 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: years old because my dad knocks me unconscious and put 168 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: like a golf both sides not on my forehead because 169 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 5: I would not listen to him. It took he told 170 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: me three times and not going into the bathroom. My 171 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: sister was five years old than me, while she was 172 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: taking a shower and I was drawing on the mirror 173 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 5: and he, you know, he told me three times not 174 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 5: to go in the bathroom. 175 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: He knock unconscious. 176 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: I was in a fosterone for any for like a 177 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 5: year and a half or so, and then moved back 178 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: in with him after that, and you know, and then 179 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: suffered you know, abuse, physical abuse and all that stuff became, 180 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: you know, moved out because when I was twelve eleven twelve, 181 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 5: like left the house like I was homeless living on 182 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 5: the streets because I was afraid to go home. 183 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: You were you were homeless living on the street at. 184 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: Twenty Yeah, yeah, because I was afraid to go home, 185 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: like you know, like I yeah, you know, and yeah that's. 186 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: This is all. 187 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I can give you specific city care, you know, 188 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 5: Like like I like slept in between my dad's house 189 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 5: and my neighbor's house. 190 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: It was like this little nook. 191 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 5: And it was one time where my dog's stable smelled me, 192 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: like because like you know, you know, she recognized my smell, 193 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 5: and she started barking at like the corner of the 194 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: floor because she could smell me, and she started barking 195 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 5: just at the floor, and my dad kind of just 196 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: got this, like, what the hell, why does the sable? 197 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: Why is our dog? 198 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: Why does the dog keep barking to this one little spot? 199 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: Okay? And I'm like shut up. 200 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 5: So I was trying to sleep and because I was 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 5: terrified to get home because it's you know, some stupid 202 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 5: something people that I did at school. But I would 203 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: have got the ship kicked out of me for it, 204 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: you know, if I were went home. So you know, 205 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: I lived with my mom for a while until I 206 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 5: was you know, seventeen eighteen, which you know, those years 207 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 5: weren't great. Mom drug addict, my dad alcoholic, So make 208 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 5: sure a great dynamic, you know. I you know, I 209 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: get hit eighteen and that you know, the one thing 210 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: I did like appreciated my dad is that he like 211 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 5: he tried to like put a foot in my a, 212 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: get me going, but he just went about it the 213 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 5: wrong way. 214 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: You know. So you said he tried too hard. 215 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: He tried too hard. 216 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So you're telling me you have an appreciation 217 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: for the fact that your dad, uh was like you know, 218 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: it sounds like, I mean just from like what you've 219 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: just told me now that you feel as though you 220 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: understand his intentions with all of this, like yeah, but 221 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: he met well, but that he just did it in 222 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: a fucking terrible way. 223 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, And and and but when when I, 224 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: you know, turned eighteen, I moved to Louisiana with him. 225 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 5: He was Michelle Matte Louisiana to Louisiana with him, and 226 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 5: I lived with him, and you know the first day 227 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 5: I was there, I got you know, like literally the 228 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 5: first day I was there, I would and apply to windows. 229 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: He got a job, you know, he was doing good. 230 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 5: I was super proud of me. I was happy because 231 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: my dad was proud of me, you know, my dad, 232 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 5: you know. 233 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: And I still respected him, you know, fucked up. 234 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: As that is, you know, and because he's my dad, 235 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 5: you know. And and I was, you know, like and 236 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: got another job, was working, was working in when Dixie, 237 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 5: you know, stocking groceries. Got another job at. 238 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: A mill shop, learning how to weld. 239 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 5: You know, working two jobs, working almost eighty hours a week, 240 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: and I was going to welding school. I was like 241 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 5: I turned into like a workahol. Like I went from like, 242 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 5: you know, this lazy kid, and then I went moved 243 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: in over dad. And that was because my dad was 244 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 5: pushing me to do all this stuff. And he wasn't 245 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: being an ass. He wasn't being like he's a shit 246 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 5: about it at first. And then after I saved up 247 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: like seven thousand dollars in the bank when I was eighteen, 248 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 5: you know, my dad just kind of like he quit 249 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: his job because he was like, oh, my son's got 250 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: like seven grands to the bank. I can just like, 251 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: you know, mooch off of him. And yeah, and and 252 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: he doesn't he doesn't acknowledge that. And and I was 253 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: pretty weak too at that time because my dad, like 254 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 5: I was buying my dad's liquor, ya you know, I 255 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: was supporting his habit. Yeah, you know, it's. 256 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: Paying his rent. 257 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: Like he just quit his job and became like basically 258 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: just a full time drunk. Yeah, and like you know, 259 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: we've gotten fights and stuff, you know, and I was 260 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: just like two weeks I was, you know, you know, 261 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 5: it was two weeks to tell him no until the 262 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: time I left. And when I did finally leave, you know, 263 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 5: it was I took the eaty way out, you know, 264 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: That's what he told me. 265 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: I took the easy way out. I left. I went back. 266 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, how long? How long? How long did you stay? 267 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: And how long were you were you supporting him for? 268 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: You said from the age of eighteen to two about what 269 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: age six. 270 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: To four months? 271 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's all kind of blurry, okay, and so 272 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: and so I interrupt you about but why did why 273 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: why was it considered by you or by him to 274 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: be the easy way out? 275 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: Because my dad would push me to do you know, 276 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 6: to be like, you know, to do what I need. 277 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 6: Like my dad he always he was a pusher, you know, 278 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 6: he like, like that's one thing I do is thank 279 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 6: my dad. 280 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: For is my work. As a sure, I've always. 281 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: Been like hard worker, you know, like I like ever 282 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: since I've been like twelve. You're like, I was incarcerated 283 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: for like six months when I was sixteen for breaking 284 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: in the house, and I was like one of the 285 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: most respected people there among the staff because of how 286 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: hard of a worker I was. And you know, and 287 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 5: he just like every job that I've ever had, Like 288 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: for my first job, like you know, from when I 289 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: got out of that boot camp, I got a job 290 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: at a brick mason crew, you know, and I was like, 291 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: you know, highly respected among the you know, the thirty 292 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 5: forty year old men. 293 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Because so so okay, So so I went back back 294 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: to start of the timeline here. So you're eighteen, Yeah, dad, 295 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: quitch is your dad quits his job. You're supporting him, 296 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: and then you decide I bounce. You decide to bounce, 297 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: and then where do you Where do you go after bounce? 298 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 5: I go back home with my mom who's living in 299 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: the crackhouse with a crackhead boyfriend. 300 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I lived there. 301 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: For you know for a while, until I like, you know, 302 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: tell a friend of mine, you know, tells him he 303 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 5: needs a roommate. And then, you know, a good job 304 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: doing free work. And I'm eighteen, you know, I'm nineteen 305 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: twenty at this time, you know, doing you know, we're 306 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 5: doing free work. But uh, I mean we can I 307 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 5: think we can fast forward to to like today. 308 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: Sure, let's fast forward to today. 309 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 5: So okay, from that time, from that time to now, 310 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 5: me and him didn't really have much contact. Okay, you know, 311 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 5: like right now and then we talk, but other than that, 312 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 5: really niche contact, you know, until the hurricane the last 313 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 5: hurricane the hit like a few months ago. 314 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: Actually. 315 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: The last hurricane, last hurricane that hit where. 316 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: In Louisiana. 317 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so the hurricane hits Louisia, then did he reach out? 318 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: I drove, Well, no, Well, we were we were kind 319 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 5: of talking. We were kind of like, you know, how 320 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 5: did we have a report going? We were being cordial 321 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 5: to each other, you know, and trying to get back 322 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: in our good graces, you know. And and I, you know, 323 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 5: I actually and I found out that he didn't have 324 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 5: any power when the hurricane, you know, hit, and so 325 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: I drove to Louisiana and I went and picked him 326 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: up and brought him to my house. You know, so 327 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: he wasn't there in Louisiana without any power. And this 328 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 5: is like twenty twenty one. The hurricane, Yeah, the hurricane 329 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 5: you know there was I can't remember the name of it. 330 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: And you know, I brought him back here. 331 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 5: He stayed with me for a you know, for like 332 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 5: a week and a half, two weeks. 333 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: And how was that week? And happen two weeks? 334 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: Oh with Hill? 335 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, all I did was brag about how great 336 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 7: he was, you know, so like you know, he's like 337 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 7: to my to my my girlfriend, you know, well, you know, 338 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 7: wife or whatever. 339 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: He did together for almost ten years he was got married. 340 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: But yeah, he just you know, like she would tell me, 341 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: like how all he did like while I was gone 342 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 5: is talk about how you know, great of a person 343 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: he was, and you know it was. Yeah, it was 344 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: pretty unbearable, you know, because he tried to lecture me 345 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 5: and stuff, and we got in a couple of arguments. 346 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's. 347 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he tried to lecture Now he's like a seventy 348 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: five year old man. 349 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: It says. It says that you're not sure if you 350 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: should try to make amends with him before he died. 351 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 5: I haven't even gotten to the part where I've really 352 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: gotten pissed off at him, because there was. 353 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: Like, what what what? 354 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: What? 355 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: What was it that. 356 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: I broke my back about six months ago? 357 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm like, and I my my career as 358 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 5: a welder has kind of ended. And now I'm like, 359 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: now I'm an uber driver and I'm doing okay. 360 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not home, you know, like I'm doing 361 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: all right. 362 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 5: But my dad knew I was struggling. He and I 363 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: guess he had a little bit of extra money and 364 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: he knew I needed tire. He bought me some tires 365 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 5: when he got went back to Louisiana. When he he 366 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: went back to Louisiana, and he wired me some money 367 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: to buy some tires, and and he told me he 368 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 5: wanted proof. He wanted me to take a picture of 369 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 5: the receipt to prove that I bought these tires. And 370 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 5: I told her, I was like, fuck you. You know, 371 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 5: you robbed me. You know, I like, I paid for 372 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 5: you when I was eighteen years old, when I like, 373 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 5: we had an agreement when I was a kid that 374 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 5: I could come live with you and you would help me, 375 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 5: you know, And now you're polnician on me because you know, 376 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: I'm you know, I need a little help. And I 377 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 5: didn't even ask for the money he offered it. I 378 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: would not I would not have asked for the help. 379 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: He offered the money. So I'm not gonna you know, 380 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: I needed it. I'm not going to tell him no. 381 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: So I, you know, I accepted the money. And then, 382 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 5: oh and then I didn't even go to the tire 383 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 5: place that he wanted me to go to. He wanted 384 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: me to go to Firestone and I could get the 385 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 5: same time as at Walmart for like twenty to thirty 386 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: dollars cheaper and pay left labor, thank him. And I'm 387 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 5: probably getting too specifically, but yeah, but uh, but he 388 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: got pissed at that, and he went off on me 389 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: for doing it, and he and and all, you know, 390 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 5: for yeah, for not going to. 391 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I can ask how long ago. I can ask how 392 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: long ago? How recently this was? 393 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: Oh, this is a few months, this is a few 394 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: months ago. 395 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: There was a few months, three months ago. So sost 396 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: to fast forward to fast forward to today. You're talking 397 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: about whether or not you want to make amends with him. 398 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: At least that's what you told the call screen there. Yeah, 399 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: is there anything in particular that happened in the last 400 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: Like I don't know a week or or recently what 401 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: that made you sort of I don't know. I don't 402 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: know if there's like a a thing that made you 403 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: come to this realization of like I either need to 404 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: make amends with him or not, you know what I mean? Like, 405 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: is there anything like seventy five? 406 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: He's like seventy five? He's you know, he's he's about 407 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 5: to kick the bucket, sure, you know, and he and 408 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 5: he's a miserable, lonely old man. Yeah, because he's he's 409 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: pushed everybody away from him and I'm really like the 410 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: only person that he really has left, you know, And 411 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: I kind of feel bad, you know, like I feel 412 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: like I should I shouldn't be ignoring him because he's 413 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: been calling me, and I feel I feel bad for 414 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: ignoring him. But do you. 415 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: Feel like throughout my life, do you feel like do 416 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: you feel like making amends with him would make because 417 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, I know that, like you know, you feel 418 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: bad because again, he has his own like you know, 419 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: bullshit that he's dealing with and you're the only one 420 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: he has. But like, do you feel like making amends 421 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: with him would make you feel better. 422 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 5: A little bit. Yeah, Like, but I really I'm still 423 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: gonna be pissed at him, you know, I'm you know, like, 424 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 5: but and a part of me wants to just like 425 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: fucking disinvent to him and tell him all the fucked. 426 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: Up shit that he's done to me. 427 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 5: That's not really gonna help anything, you know, because my 428 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 5: dad's kind of a narcissist. He was He's actually been 429 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: diagnosed like with borderline personality disorder and you know, narcissistics 430 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: all that stuff. And I'm sure I got I probably 431 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: inherited some of that stuff. Like I you know, I've 432 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: dealt with alcoholism, I've dealt with drug addiction, but I've 433 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 5: kind of I've overcome all that stuff. 434 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: You know. 435 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 5: I still enjoy drinking, but I don't get so drunk 436 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 5: that I black out and all that stuff, you know, 437 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 5: Like I can drink aew beers and be fine. And 438 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 5: you know, I'm just. 439 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: About Do you have kids? It sounds like there's like 440 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm hearing I'm hearing like voices in the background. 441 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a I have I have 442 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: a six year old son. 443 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a six year old son. 444 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 5: I do have a tiwo ure old time and yeah, 445 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, I'm I don't know, I'm just 446 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: been wanting I've been wanting to do this for a while, 447 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 5: you know, and uh, because I I I signed on 448 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 5: signed up to Reddit actually like a month ago, and 449 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: your video was one of the first ones that, like, 450 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 5: I was just scrolling on Reddit just trying to figure 451 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 5: out how it worked. Your video, your live stream popped 452 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 5: up on Reddit and I was like, yeah, that's a 453 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: cool as hell. And ever since then, I was, you know, 454 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 5: I thought it'd be cool to talk to you. 455 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: Well, dude, you know, here's I guess. I guess, for 456 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth, my my sort of take on it. 457 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously this is like a entire, entire, 458 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: entire life thing that I, you know, can't reasonably I. 459 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: Just dropped dropped sload on you. 460 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, Well, I have I have a 461 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: I have a thing. And I'm sure you know, I mean, 462 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: you're you're you're a smart guy. I don't think I'm 463 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you anything you don't know, but like the 464 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: fact that you have a son, I mean, this is 465 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: this is cool, right because now you have an opportunity 466 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: like your parents we're fucking shitty to you, and that 467 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: that hurt you, and you're obviously still dealing with that hurt. 468 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: And I feel like you have this, like you have 469 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: this opportunity to like take all of those feelings and 470 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: like all that anger and all that sadness and all 471 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: you have, you can, like you now can transmute it 472 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: into something positive, right, because you're gonna go, Okay, well, 473 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: my parents fucking sucked, but now I have a kid, 474 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: and I love my kid, and I'm gonna make I'm 475 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: gonna use all these feel all these negative feelings to 476 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: fuel me to make sure that I give my kid 477 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: a great, great life. And that's gonna be my motivator, 478 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: just to just every single day, like you know, be 479 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: the dad that you wanted your dad to be. You know, 480 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: you sort of have this opportunity right to like right 481 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: the wrongs in your relationship with your son. 482 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: Mm hmm yeah, I'm really And you know there are 483 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 5: there have been times where like I've gotten mad at 484 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 5: my son and like I see my dad and. 485 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Me yeah sure, and it really ASTs me. M hm. 486 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 8: Hm, Like I got feel ashamed of myself. What you 487 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 8: said is truly I'm sorry. 488 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: How do you, how do you how do you feel 489 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: about how do you feel about all of that? What 490 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: I just said? 491 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: No, he's like you hit me man, Like it's pretty 492 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 5: much like how I feel. 493 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, that doesn't make you sound like I mean, 494 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: you sound like a good dude, man, Like you know, 495 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: I know that you as you said, you like he 496 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: probably inherited some of that stuff from your dad. But 497 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: like again, man, you sound like a good dude, and like, 498 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, I know that you didn't get the kind 499 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: of life that you know that you that I can 500 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: tell you want to give to your kid. I can 501 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: tell you're a good dude, and you don't. I don't 502 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: want to give your kid a good life. 503 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 5: I've always felt like I didn't belong in the society 504 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 5: that I was growing up in, if that makes sense sure, 505 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 5: because I was like, you grew up in this poor, shitty, white, 506 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: trash fucking society, and I like, I don't know, I 507 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 5: just I didn't really want to be around any of 508 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: the people that I was around, So like you know, 509 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: like you know, it sucked, you know, I mean, I like, 510 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 5: like I said, you know, like growing up with my family, 511 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 5: I've just never really cared for any. 512 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 9: Of them, and. 513 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 5: I'm kind of separated myself from all of them, you know, 514 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 5: except my younger sister. 515 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: It's really only do do you keep keep in good 516 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: touch with your younger sister? 517 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, like you but she's always 518 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 5: you know, hitting me up, you know, because her life sucks. 519 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: In my life is. 520 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: You know, a little better than hers, you know, like 521 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 5: he constantly bumming money off from me. But she's not 522 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 5: on drugs or anything like that. She's doing the best 523 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: you can. She has been on drugs and she got 524 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: you know, she got clean. She's doing the best you can. 525 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 5: You know. You know, I have I have my older sister, 526 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 5: who's you know, you know, who's taking a shower. She's 527 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: a she's a heroin outic in Texas, you know, or 528 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: I'm you know, like we're fitting all or whatever the fuck, 529 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: you know, she does all that shit, and she, you know, 530 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: is constantly messaging me on Facebook. 531 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, why want to talk to her? 532 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 5: Like I don't, you know, I have nothing to talk 533 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: to you about. 534 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, like. 535 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 5: The yeah what you said, like you know, yeah, that's 536 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 5: pretty much how I feel. 537 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: You know. 538 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: I do want to give the best life of my son, 539 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: and it's me breaking my back. I used to skateboard. 540 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 5: I broke my pelvis like fifteen years ago, and it, 541 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 5: you know, it sucked me up for like six months 542 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: to a year, you know, but I thought I healed, 543 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 5: you know, and I continued to work, you know. And 544 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 5: then now that I'm forty, like, I can barely even 545 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: you know, I can barely lift you know, forty pounds. 546 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 5: So it's kind of screwed me up. But I'm you know, 547 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 5: I'm taking classes online and you know, trying to figure 548 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: something else out, you know. 549 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: Destin, I was gonna you know, as I was, as 550 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I mean, it sounds like you're doing 551 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: the best that you can, dude. Like, and I know 552 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: you said that you lose patience sometimes sometimes you see 553 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: your dad and yourself and all that stuff. But like 554 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: but like again, I can just tell and I feel 555 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: like people listen to as they can tell that like 556 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: within you is is is a very very genuine desire 557 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: that I think is more powerful than whatever it is 558 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: that you feel like you inherited from your father or 559 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: whatever physical limitations that you're dealing with right now. Is 560 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: very very genuine, powerful desire to give your son a 561 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: good life, and I I believe that that desire will 562 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: win in the end and that you'll be able to 563 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: do that, you know, so I hope you take that 564 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. 565 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, yeah, it means a lot to me. Man, 566 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 5: it's cool talking to you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm so kind 567 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: of like surprised that I got too so quick. 568 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, you know, is there anything else that you 569 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: want to say about any of this or any final thoughts, 570 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: feelings or sentiments to share before we go? 571 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 5: I just really appreciate the ba tire man, Like, it 572 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 5: was was cool talking to you, and like what you said, 573 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: you know, it meant that meant a lot to me. Man, Okay, 574 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 5: it made me cry, you know, because like that hit me. 575 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know. 576 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 5: You're just just a get but uh but yeah, dude, 577 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: like you you know were I mean? And I like, 578 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 5: we all have our problems, man, you know, and I 579 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: don't you know, like we all deal with our ship 580 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: in different ways, and you know, we all yeah, Like 581 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm not very articulate sometimes neither of mine. Yeah, 582 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: except see when I'm kind of emotional, and it made 583 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: me emotional. 584 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: And actually this whole. 585 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 5: You know, situation is you know, I kind of think, 586 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 5: you know, like I'm surprised to hold it together as 587 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 5: well as I did explaining this whole situation. Yeah, but 588 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 5: uh yeah, it was cool talking to you. 589 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Man, and like I'm yeah, great talking to you too, 590 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: and again just to say it, just to say it 591 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: one final time, okay, just to say it one final time. 592 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: I I I believe in you, Okay, I think I 593 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: think I think, like I could just tell again people 594 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: listening to just can just tell like you you have 595 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: that genuine desire to do good by your son, and 596 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: I I I think you will act act well by 597 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: that desire. I believe in you. 598 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 5: That's cool to hear that, man, And yeah, I kind 599 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 5: of I feel I feel that way. I mean, I 600 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 5: have my doubts you know, of course, like everybody does, 601 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: you know about youself. 602 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, but uh yeah, I. 603 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 5: Try to, you know, just persevere, persevere and push on 604 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 5: and you know, and do the best I can and 605 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 5: be the best dad you know I can. And and 606 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 5: luckily you know, he doesn't. He's not a broken home, 607 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 5: you know, so that helps. 608 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for calling Dustin once again. Man, 609 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: Good luck to you. 610 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 5: All right, Thanks man, good talking to you, dude. 611 00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Good talking to you. 612 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 5: So have a good night, alright, you two man? 613 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: Hello? Is this Jason? It is Jason. It says here 614 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: that there is a toilet paper shortage in your in 615 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: your house and it is causing a lot of conflict 616 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: between you and your roommates. 617 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 618 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's been tough just kind of deciding on 619 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 9: who's going to buy the toilet paper. It's been four 620 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 9: to eight all right. 621 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: So before we get into anything, what is your philosophy, 622 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: because there's many different ways of thinking about this, Okay, 623 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to set this up. Sure, 624 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: if it's for do how many how many people? 625 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 5: Is it. 626 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Five plus five of you guys sharing one bathroom two bathrooms? 627 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 9: So three upstairs, two downstairs? 628 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Okay, okay? And is it one bathroom in particular that's 629 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: experiencing a toilet paper shortage or is there a general 630 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: toilet paper shortage because people from the when the downstairs 631 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: bathroom runs out of toilet paper, people will go to 632 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: the upstairs. What is the sort of distribution of paper? 633 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: Sure, so we. 634 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 9: Had like a like a big collection of toilet paper upstairs, 635 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 9: like probably sixteen seventeen rolls and then like you know, 636 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 9: we have people come over and then like the upstairs 637 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 9: passing a little bit more, a little bit, a little 638 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 9: bit cleaner. So the downstairs then ran out of toilet paper, 639 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 9: came upstairs, took some of the upstairs, which is fine, yeah, Sharon. 640 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 9: And now we've resorted to we're friends with our neighbors. 641 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 9: So now we we have covert operations and we go 642 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 9: to the neighbor's house and steal their toilet paper. 643 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: So there's several different schools of thought as to how 644 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: this could be arranged. Right, you could say, one person 645 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: buys a thing of toilet paper in full, and then 646 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: whenever that toilet paper disappears, another person buys, and then again, 647 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: and then another person buys, and then again and you 648 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: sort of go in this rotation. Or there's a there's 649 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: a school of thought where every time new toilet paper 650 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: needs to be bought, everyone equally pitches in for new 651 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: toilet paper at each buying of the toilet paper. Or 652 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: and this is the one that will cause a war. 653 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the one. The school 654 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: of thought that you guys have been subscribing to. You 655 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: do some form of calculating who uses the most toilet paper, 656 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: and the onus is on that person to replenish it, 657 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: and that causes lots and lots of conflict of you know, 658 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: who used how much and whatnot. So at this current moment, 659 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: what what is the school of thought that your house 660 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: has been using. 661 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 9: Wow, you know, I'm gonna be honest, I hadn't thought 662 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 9: about that third one, because there certainly is like a 663 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 9: mass distribution as far as you know, people you know, 664 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 9: rates for cooping and such. It was going out within 665 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 9: the household, and the thing is like we're all employed, 666 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 9: Like we all totally could just go buy the toilet paper. 667 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 9: Now it's just bag. It's like, oh, who's going to 668 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 9: do it? You know, like certain people have more roles 669 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 9: in the past than others, and so like distributing, distributing 670 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 9: that out, trying to figure that out. But like, there definitely, yeah, 671 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 9: is some people who put more in the house. 672 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about it that way, don't. 673 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: I shouldn't even brought up the idea because you're not 674 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: gonna win that fight. Oh, because we used to do 675 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: that in my house and I was the one who 676 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: used the most toilet paper, and I vehemoately denied it 677 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: to the end, as will the person who uses the 678 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: most toilet paper, and you will not win that fight. 679 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: So what is the rift that you are describing it 680 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: like between you and your roommates the rift is causing? 681 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, it's it's it's funny, I mean not not 682 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 9: like it's like it doesn't just doesn't happen all the time. 683 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 9: But it's like there's definitely like like little like scheming 684 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 9: teams you know going on. Like people are like one 685 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 9: of one of us will be in the kitchen, another 686 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 9: person will walk down and be like, oh man, we're 687 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 9: on a toilet paper. Can you believe you know, the 688 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 9: other people haven't bought it? And then you know, like 689 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 9: everybody like I have that, I've had that conversation with everybody, 690 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 9: so like, you know, it's it's going around m hm. 691 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of chicken being played as 692 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: to who will buy the toilet paper. 693 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 9: For sure, and like again, you know, it's not like 694 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 9: we can't afford toilet papers, so like like we all 695 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 9: could do it, and I like don't know if we 696 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 9: all think it's funny at this point or if we're 697 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 9: all like actually a little like passive drestive about it. 698 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you all thinking it's funny. It 699 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: is a little funny to see how long you can 700 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: go without having toilet paper in the house, and the 701 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: pettiness of one person won't just buy toilet paper. It 702 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: is a pretty funny situation to revel in. I agree. 703 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 9: And the crazy part is is that we had, like 704 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 9: we were sitting on the couch like a couple months ago, 705 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 9: and we were like, yo, we should buy it the day, 706 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 9: and we bought and installed it the day. But the 707 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 9: day recently became unusable. And so I think that now 708 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 9: that I'm like sitting here putting on all the gather 709 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 9: excessus and dan chats that used the day, I think 710 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 9: it's it's the. 711 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: Lack of the day. 712 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 9: Maybe that we're cruising through our toilet paper at a 713 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 9: faster rate. 714 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: M I've never personally been a fan of the day, 715 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: but I understand it from a point of view of conservation. 716 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: So all right, so you no, go ahead. 717 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 9: I was just it said, did you go into the 718 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 9: day with an open mind? Because I feel like a 719 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 9: lot of people don't go into it with an. 720 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: Open mind, you know, I totally, I totally did not 721 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 1: go into it one of the with an open mind. 722 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: I'd be willing to try again, but but not any time, 723 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: not anytime soon. But but so okay, so you all 724 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: have been playing this, this game of chicken, and it's 725 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: really gonna be up to at the end of the day, 726 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: one guy to break and go fuck this and go 727 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: aheut and buy toilet paper. Do you think that you're 728 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: getting to that point whose the group will break first? 729 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 9: Yeah? 730 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean. 731 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 9: I think the person who's gonna break is gonna be 732 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 9: the person who's gonna be like the most adult about 733 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 9: the situation, because I definitely have like a couple of 734 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 9: them who like probably won't do it. And that's fine, 735 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 9: you know, I get it. It's cool. I think it's 736 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 9: gonna be me or my other roommate honestly, who's gonna 737 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 9: break first. 738 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: Mm hm. So I want to hear from your perspective, 739 00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: why won't you just go. 740 00:40:59,680 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 3: By to. 741 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: Honestly? 742 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 9: Because well, I thought about doing it today and I 743 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 9: was like working, and then I had class and I 744 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 9: was like, I don't feel like doing it, And honestly, 745 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 9: it just came down a way to it. Even though 746 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 9: I was out and about today earlier, I probably could 747 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 9: have done it. And then I got home and we 748 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 9: were out of toilet paper. It was actually pretty funny 749 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 9: because I saw that we were almost out of toilet 750 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 9: paper earlier when I went to the bathroom and I 751 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 9: was like the last role I knew we had in 752 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 9: the house, and there was probably like six or seven 753 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 9: squares on it, and so I used like three or 754 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 9: four and then that way, I wasn't, you know, the 755 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 9: a hole who took the last little piece of pilet paper, 756 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 9: So then I could kind of bond that. 757 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: Off on somebody else. 758 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: M So it sounds like this is coming that makes 759 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: me that my bad person. 760 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 761 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: No, No, you're you're actually pro very strategic in that. 762 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's me planning off on 763 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 9: somebody else. 764 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 5: The you know, I don't know. 765 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: All's fair and toilet paper and war. 766 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: That is true. 767 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 9: There's there's no wars like earlier. Excuse me, there's no 768 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 9: rules right. 769 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: Like, So it sounds like it's not coming from a 770 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: place of because it's coming from a place of laziness. 771 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: For you, it sounds and not a place of why 772 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: should I have to you know, you know what I mean, 773 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: a place of of of of feeling like it's not 774 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: just for you to have to go buy toilet paper. 775 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think too, you know, a little bit. But 776 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 9: there also, like definitely are certainly other places in the 777 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 9: house where it's like, Okay, why do I have to 778 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 9: do this? And so I think it kind of transfers 779 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 9: over then to the toilet paper because I feel like 780 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 9: sometimes I do like a lot more than a lot 781 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 9: of my other roommates and things, and so then I'm like, 782 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 9: you know. 783 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: Right, so there is a little bit of that, and 784 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: it seems like it's justified. Right, You're doing all these 785 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: other things in the house. I assume you're washing dishes, 786 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: you're vacuuming, you're doing all the more adult things, and 787 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: you're like, well, god, damn it, why do I have 788 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: to be the paper too? 789 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly when I know that, like, wow, I won't 790 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 9: bash Like I love my roommates, don't get anyone. They're 791 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 9: all awesome guys, and they're like some of my closest friends. 792 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 9: But yeah, it definitely does have a lot like that. 793 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, listen, Jason, you know, being the adult of a house, 794 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a thankless job. So you know, 795 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: good on you for for taking of it. 796 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: That's true. That is true. 797 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 9: You know, maybe maybe you can learn something from your mom, 798 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 9: because every day I went upstairs in high school brand 799 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 9: your toilet paper roll. 800 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 4: On the thing. 801 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: We're really taking our parents for granted. 802 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 9: I think we do have you did you d end 803 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 9: up calling your mom earlier? 804 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling. Jason, appreciate it. 805 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 10: Every night, man, you as well, Paul from Sammy Sammy, No, 806 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 10: no way, Samy. 807 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: What's going on? 808 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 9: Man? Not much? 809 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 10: I kind of figured you're going to be streaming with 810 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 10: calls tonight, expecting the doctor someone else do for you. 811 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I normally have a call screener, but tonight 812 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: I am as they say, going in raw. 813 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 10: I did have a question for you, Yeah, please, what's up? 814 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 10: I wanted to know what your thoughts are on imposter syndrome. 815 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 10: You have to have a cool job. Yes, I think 816 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 10: I heard you think yesterday that you're only twenty four. 817 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 10: I am I expected you to be older than that. 818 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: How old did you expect me? A bit? 819 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 10: I don't know, maybe later twenties. But you just seem 820 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 10: to be in a position where you're doing something cool 821 00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 10: that you like. 822 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 823 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 10: And I am not gonna lie to you. I haven't 824 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 10: been feeling very cool lately, been feeling more failure ask 825 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 10: although we're doing better, but wondering if you've ever dealt 826 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 10: with that, and or if you have any tips or tricks. 827 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: I literally, I literally if I if I were like 828 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: a cool streamer person and I knew how to like 829 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: zip zop zoom around my computer and pull things up, 830 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: I would show you. I literally googled I have imposter syndrome. 831 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: Read it today. I literally googled that. Today. I can 832 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: find Reddit, uh the streams of people or Reddit threads 833 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: of people talking about having impost syndrome. You have the 834 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: fuck time of imposter syndrome. That's why I'm Yeah, I 835 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: have these live shows coming up. I'm super nervous for them. 836 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm always the thinking like, why the fuck is anyone 837 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: coming to see me? I'm always thinking like, why the 838 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: fuck is anyone listening to my podcast? You know, I'm 839 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about that stuff. 840 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 5: I have. 841 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: A tremendous imposter syndrome. What gets me going is I 842 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 1: do have like every once in a while I come 843 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: out of here and I'm like, and I'm just a 844 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: fully one hundred percent sure. I'm like, that was a 845 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: great stream. I'm really good at this, and I'm excited 846 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: and I just feel good and then I get high 847 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I'm just the best. I'm sick. 848 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: I am the only person that could ever be therapy Gecko. 849 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: It happens sometimes. I'm not gonna lie that that happens sometimes. 850 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: But the default is probably I don't know what I 851 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: would say the default is, but no, heavy, heavy, heavy 852 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: amounts of imposter syndrome for sure. I literally not check. 853 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: I literally googled it today because I was trying to 854 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: read about it, like this is a common thing, like 855 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: to other people feel like this. 856 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 10: You know, well, I think I think it's honestly helpful 857 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 10: to hear people who like you think are successful say like, no, 858 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 10: I don't. I don't really feel like that all the time. 859 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think here, uh, because I 860 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: want to be accurate to this. There are a couple 861 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: of things I think I'm really good at, but but 862 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: this I phased it out. I I just have times 863 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: all the time and I'm on here and I'm like, 864 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: I suck at this. And it's so funny that you 865 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: called and asked me that, because I always wonder that 866 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: about people that I think are successful as well, like 867 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: how they feel about it, Like do they are they 868 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 1: like stoked on themselves, or are they like I hope 869 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: nobody realizes that I kind of suck at this. I 870 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: don't know. 871 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 10: I have this thing with social media right now. I 872 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 10: had to delete it off my phone for a while, 873 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 10: and I just recently got back on. And I feel 874 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 10: like all I'm seeing is everyone else around me and 875 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 10: like their great achievements and like, you know, how happy 876 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 10: they all look and how much fun everyone's having. And 877 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 10: I'm like, well, I'm not having that much fun. And 878 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 10: I think maybe that should be my sign to delete 879 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 10: social media again. 880 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: I really thought that. I was like, I was like 881 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: the people who listened to my you know, I was 882 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: thicking the other day. I was like, the people who 883 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: listen to my I mean now they do, but the 884 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: people who like listen to my podcast and watch my 885 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: streams or stuff, they have no idea. That I cried 886 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: in my car yesterday, I thought that. As I was 887 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: crying in my car, I was like, they have no idea. 888 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: It's kind of sick. 889 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 10: I walked down the street yesterday and cried. Really well, 890 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 10: when I think, I think, well, I thought I was 891 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 10: going to fail a class. Yeah, there was a little 892 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 10: bit of stress going on. Yeah, a lot of it 893 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 10: of stress. 894 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: Actually, No, definitely. What okay, So you said you feel 895 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: like a failure. 896 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 10: A little bit? 897 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 2: What don't? 898 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: What does it? What does the success look like to you? 899 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 10: Well, I I go to a what I would I 900 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 10: go to a pretty competitive school and we have this 901 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 10: this interesting program where you can go and you can work. 902 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 10: You basically get a job for six months and then you 903 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 10: go back to school. And so it feels like everyone 904 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 10: around me is like a very competent young professional. Yeah, 905 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 10: and like I'm twenty two. I'm not like a kid anymore. 906 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 10: I'm not like a teenager. And I'm I'm gonna be 907 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 10: graduating hopefully next December if I don't fail this class. 908 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 10: And I'm I'm genuinely just trying to like get by 909 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 10: on a day to day basis, you know, like I'm 910 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 10: trying to not be miserable and not not like wake 911 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 10: up sad and like you know, remember to eat and 912 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 10: move my body. And it's like everyone else around me 913 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 10: is like they have like a full time job and 914 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 10: they're doing research and they're also taking classes. 915 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: They're like, it's no, it's so annoying, isn't it. It's 916 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: so annoying when you go to someone's house and like 917 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: they don't have like fucking empty water bottles and candy 918 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: wrappers everywhere, and you're like, fuck, am I the only 919 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: one that fucking lives like this? 920 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 10: And shit, I know I'm not the only one. 921 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: No, you're totally not the only one. You're totally not 922 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: the only one. And there's probably here's the thing, there's people, 923 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: by the way, everyone loves to say this and it's 924 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: not true. I don't know if I don't know if 925 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: it's not true. I shouldn't have said it's not true 926 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: because my feelings on its truth are constantly developing. But 927 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: people like to say, like everybody has something going on, 928 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, they like to say the truth, the genuine 929 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 1: truth is there are totally people who are more competent 930 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: than you. Uh, they're always will be Uh those people 931 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: who people you know, people love to say. They love 932 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: to say the people who are posting on social media 933 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: about how much fun they're having, then I actually they 934 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: might they might be that person who just posted about 935 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: going to fucking the club with her friends, and how 936 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: was the great? Maybe she really did have an awesome time. 937 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: That's it could be true. But here's the thing is 938 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: that that's the wrong. I hate that. I hate when 939 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: people say that, oh, they're not actually having a good time, 940 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: because that's not that's miss that's totally missing the point. 941 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: That's just completely misses the points. 942 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 10: I would feel like the point should be, Please, I 943 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 10: shouldn't care. 944 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: No, you shouldn't care exactly, shouldn't care. It's not even 945 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 1: it's not relevant. 946 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 10: It's not relevant at all to my life in my 947 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 10: potential future success. No, but it's so hard. I think 948 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 10: it's hard. I just think I just need to get 949 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 10: rid of it. I need to not see it. But also, 950 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 10: you know, maybe I would like to get to a 951 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 10: point where I can see it and then I can 952 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 10: just be happy for them. 953 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: Yes right now? Yeah, I mean, like I would say, 954 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I would say, I mean, look, 955 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna I don't think anyone would ever tell 956 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: you that deleting your social media would be destructive for 957 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: your mental health. I think, uh, like, I think you 958 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: would definitely be happy or not being online if I could, 959 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: if I didn't have all this shit going on. I 960 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: would I dream it all the time. I literally like, 961 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: will fantasize a boy like, oh man, whatever, like I 962 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: like fall off or whatever it is. I could just 963 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: delete all and then just go to the moon or whatever. 964 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: The fuck. It'd be sick anyway. Uh alright, but you're right. 965 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: You were right about part two where you were like, 966 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: you want to get to that point where it's not 967 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: even about avoiding it, it's about the It's almost like 968 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: the opposite. It's like you want to be able to 969 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: like see that girl from your fucking sorority or whatever 970 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: that's like hanging out in Cabo and having fun, and 971 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: you want to be like you want to be able 972 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: to look at that and go, man, it's awesome that 973 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: she's having hanging on Caba. I hope she's having an 974 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: awesome time. 975 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 5: You know, it's great. 976 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: That it could for her. You know, I would. I 977 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: would take that a step that I would take a 978 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: higher I would make that your aspiration like even higher 979 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: than like ignoring it is being able to actually do 980 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: the opposite and put it in your face and be like, oh, 981 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: this person got a promotion, this person got this job, 982 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: like that's awesome for them, that's so great. I'm so 983 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: my heart is so full of endless love for the 984 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: universal people that I'm just so happy for everyone. I'm 985 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: happy all the time. I have infinite joy at the 986 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: fact that I'm able to sit here and breathe and 987 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: drink a fucking cup of water, that I have no 988 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: need for uh, jealousy at this person that you know 989 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: that went to the moon today or whatever. I don't 990 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: like to keep talking about the moon, but. 991 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 10: No, I mean that's the reality I want to live in. 992 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: Same dude, And it seems like. 993 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 10: You want to go to the moon. 994 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: No, I don't give a fuck about it. No, I 995 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that I would love to go to 996 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: the moon. I'll probably die not ever having gone to 997 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: the moon, but it's nice to think about. 998 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 8: I don't know. 999 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 10: I think your chances are higher now than they've ever 1000 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,240 Speaker 10: been before. 1001 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: You're probably right about that. You're definitely right about that. 1002 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: My chances are going to the moon are higher than 1003 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 1: they were before. They are higher than they were a 1004 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: few years ago. What do you feel about how this 1005 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: conversation went. 1006 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 10: I am genuinely excited to tell my boyfriend that I 1007 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 10: talked to a few weeks ago. For my spring break. 1008 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 10: We traveled from North Carolina to Florida in a car 1009 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 10: and we had like a twelve hour road trip on it. 1010 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 10: On the way back, we we listened to your podcast 1011 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 10: almost the whole time. Thank you, and I became a 1012 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 10: huge hymn benefensive See the. 1013 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: Fact how many how many episodes of the podcast did 1014 00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: you listen to? 1015 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 10: A lot? I wasn't. I haven't been on Twitch. I 1016 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 10: didn't really know fully like the whole deal with Twitch 1017 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 10: until like literally a few weeks ago, and I think 1018 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 10: I've probably watched you the most. 1019 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 1: See that's great because sometimes I look at the podcast 1020 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't believe anyone's listening to this, 1021 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: And there we go, you're listening to it. 1022 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 10: So no, I certainly was listening to it perfect. 1023 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 1: So there we go. There, that's that's that's that's yeah. 1024 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1025 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, uh, yeah, I have a ton 1026 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: of imposter syndrome. 1027 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 4: I was. 1028 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: So I was gonna follow that up by saying, I 1029 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: think everyone does, but I don't think everyone does. Even 1030 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: if they do, it doesn't matter. We're just all doing stuff, 1031 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: walking around, drinking water, hanging out, being people until we die. 1032 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 10: Doing our best. 1033 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: What's your name again, Sammy? Sammy? There's anything you want 1034 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 1: to tell the people the computer before we go or say, 1035 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,479 Speaker 1: or I. 1036 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 10: Hope you go to the moon some day if you 1037 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 10: really want to do that. 1038 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Have a nice night you as well. 1039 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 10: Thank you. 1040 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: Hello is this Andrew? 1041 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 9: Holy shit? 1042 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: Wow, Andrew? It says here your work in construction. You 1043 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: got into a debate with your coworkers about what direction 1044 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: people wipe their ass, and you'd like to share the 1045 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: outcome of this debate. Now, first of all, tell me 1046 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: what side of the debate were you on? 1047 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 4: Oh shit, man, that was, like, I'm gonna disclaim this 1048 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 4: first off, is like probably the hottest button issue I've 1049 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 4: ever gotten into, Like more so than like vaccinated, unvaccinated, 1050 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 4: fucking whatever set of politics people fall on. This is 1051 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 4: probably the most heated I've ever been in a debate 1052 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 4: in my life. 1053 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: And let me ask you a questions. What is First 1054 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: of all, tell me when you say that the debate 1055 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: is over what direction people wipe their ass, is it 1056 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: a binary debate between top to bottom and bottom to 1057 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: top or have there been some third parties of left 1058 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: to right, right to left. 1059 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 4: I wish I could report that, I'll be honest, not 1060 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 4: too many people wanted to chime in on it, and 1061 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 4: if they did, I think they were bullshitting because they 1062 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 4: seemed to just align with what seemed most normal at 1063 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: the time. But it all started when you know, it's construction, 1064 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 4: so like pretty much nothing's off limits. And my boss 1065 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 4: was telling me. This ramps up pretty quickly. He was 1066 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 4: telling me about how his wife shaved his asshole the 1067 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 4: other weekend, and then that pretty much just quickly spiraled 1068 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 4: into like just taking care of yourself down there, I 1069 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 4: guess would be the next thing. And then no one 1070 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 4: ever directly asked the question. 1071 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: Don't ever ask the question. 1072 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't ever directly. It was more just like you. 1073 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: Have with your boss. It seems like it's very casual 1074 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: and very brotherly. 1075 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's a couple of years older than me. 1076 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 4: I was his boss on a project like a year 1077 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 4: ago is when it started, and that's when I first 1078 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 4: met him, and we we kind of we bonded, and 1079 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 4: then he actually got promoted. Now he's my boss. 1080 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 9: And I'm like his uh, I'm. 1081 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 4: Like his his fucking super secretary. I guess that's what 1082 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 4: you would call it. 1083 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: You guys sound like you're very good friends. So I 1084 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 1: also tell me, so tell me, so tell me what 1085 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: side of the debate are you on? 1086 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 4: Dude, I'm gonna I'm gonna spend a lot of people here. 1087 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 4: I am a I'm a back to front wiper, always 1088 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 4: have them. 1089 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: And so you're talking about the event, there's probably top 1090 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: to bottom. 1091 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 4: Not top to bottom. So that's that's kind of I 1092 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,439 Speaker 4: think where the confusion lies. And I know ten thousand people. 1093 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Tell me where does this start? 1094 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 4: So I start on top, just right in the middle, 1095 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 4: just right on it, and. 1096 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: It's just. 1097 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 4: It's just like a short, little come hither motion. And 1098 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 4: then I just dropped the paper, you know, and you 1099 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 4: you know, you know what you got. You know, first wipe, 1100 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 4: you know what you got, you know what you're dealing. 1101 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Do you look at the paper before? 1102 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 4: Sometimes? Sometimes not always, Like like I said, you kind 1103 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 4: of know what you got, generally, sure you know. 1104 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: And so you're a top to bottom. And then I 1105 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: assume that the popular sentiment around town, around the rest 1106 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,439 Speaker 1: of your construction work bodies is a sentiment of back 1107 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: to front or yes frontman, yes sorry. 1108 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 4: It and it kind of spiraled into like a a 1109 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 4: gender thing for a minute, and I was like, no, no, 1110 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 4: this is strictly on the male side, don't I don't 1111 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 4: advocate any females doing this. And I think that that's 1112 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 4: probably like culturally the most agreed on thing, but for men, 1113 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 4: completely different set of rules. We have a lot more 1114 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 4: room to work with down. 1115 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: There, right, because there's a possibility of recur of infection 1116 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: for women. 1117 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, I. 1118 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Know about the body. 1119 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, hm hmm. 1120 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: So all right, it's all said and done. You had 1121 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of it in the midst of all this, 1122 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: In the midst of all this, tell me. 1123 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 4: So, in the midst of all of it, we had 1124 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 4: unveiled probably some crazier stuff than what I was expecting, 1125 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 4: Like did you know a population of people don't fold 1126 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 4: the paper. There was even a debate on how much 1127 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 4: paper to fold. Some people just wad that ship up. 1128 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 4: Just tell me, he just fucking grabs it and just 1129 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 4: waste paper, just pulls huge, huge water And I'm like, 1130 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 4: that's ridiculous. 1131 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 3: Yes, radio and he. 1132 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 1: To who raised you five times? I use it? Mm hmm. 1133 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 4: That's a good it's pretty good stat Actually, I would 1134 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 4: say for me, it's like once. 1135 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: A month once. You only talk a toy that once 1136 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: a month. 1137 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 4: Dude, Yeah, that ship pretty frequently, like at least at 1138 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 4: least once a day. 1139 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: What are you starting to get? Yeah, Andrew, thank you 1140 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: every much for sharing your perspective on this hop ut 1141 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: in the ship. 1142 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 4: I hope that uh people don't judge people for this, 1143 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 4: and I hope that it starts a new conversation, you know, 1144 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 4: in the office if if you have the balls to 1145 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 4: bring it. 1146 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 5: Up every weekend goes on the line making your phone calls. 1147 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 9: Every night every week and goes to a d S 1148 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 9: teaching you 1149 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Aloud in your life is not really