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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to say they're gonna lock it up.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations Ravens getting off the snide after well, I mean,

428
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting tweeted at from people saying please pick team

429
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: exit myself. I didn't say anything there. To be clear,

430
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 1: you would have not have locked it up. You never

431
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: know where it's gonna drop. Uh. And one last note,

432
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers with an unprecedented week, I mean all the

433
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: every team, what's going on with with Trump and the

434
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: national anthem and the and the kneeling and and these protests.

435
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: This idea, uh that every team has its own situation

436
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: going on. The Steelers if you followed them all weeks,

437
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: there seems and it feels like there's so much going

438
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: on with them, more than other teams even perhaps, And

439
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: you want to see how they come out and play

440
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: this week. If this has become a distraction for them, Uh,

441
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: we have no idea. If it was a distraction last week,

442
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: but they were very flat last week, definite stract. Everything

443
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: that happened to storyline two track moving on. Oh yeah,

444
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: you know it's kind of a cliche, but I'm gonna

445
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: use it anyway. Let's talk about that toilet Bowl, the

446
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: oh and three Cincinnati Bengals traveling that it's not a cliche,

447
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: that is an insult the Cincinnati Bengals at home. Where

448
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: are we they are traveling. They're traveling to Cleveland to

449
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: face the windless don't shrug, you don't put your hand out, Greg, Like,

450
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: how did you not know? You know that team on

451
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: the right. That's what I thought, but then I saw

452
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: an at somewhere else. Don't worry about your own stuff,

453
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: claiming there is no home field advantage for the brown

454
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Cleveland too, oh and three teams. History tells us

455
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: that the season is over for both teams in terms

456
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, but that doesn't mean that's how it

457
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: plays out. There's always outliers. But uh, what we do

458
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: know is the team that loses this well, we're not.

459
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't think we're doing the Forks segment this year.

460
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: You could say goodbye to that team and we'll start

461
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: with you on this one, mark Um. The Bengals probably

462
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: are further along, but if you look at statistically, they've

463
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: been even worse than the Browns. I well concerns me

464
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: watching what happened with Cleveland against Indianapolis and also two

465
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: weeks prior, Antonio Brown fried them for a hundred and

466
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: eighty two yards. T Y Hilton dominated their secondary for

467
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty three. They're doing this thing where

468
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: they put rookie safety Jabil Pepper's deep deep back like

469
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: a just like a center fielder, and the ideas you're

470
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna take away the big plays. But number one wide

471
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: receivers have had nothing but big, big plays against Cleveland.

472
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Speaker 1: Now you have a J. Green, and I think that

473
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Speaker 1: a J. Green's, you know, the one He's been positive

474
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati despite the fact that too much of their

475
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: offense runs through him. I don't like the combination of

476
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: a J. Green against the secondary and what feels like

477
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: finally Joe Mixon under Bill laser clear one and I'm

478
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: nation of potentially a breakout Joe Mixon game with a J.

479
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Green dealing with Cleveland's second breakout Joe Mixon prediction. You

480
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: could have it, you want to share, I mean I

481
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: would share. I will actually just give it to you,

482
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: But I just feel because by the way, this would

483
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: be the roughly in my fandom of the Browns, the

484
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: eighty three running back that's broken out against Cleveland. So

485
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: it's not a new thing. Let's talk. We should talk

486
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: about this because at oh and three, it's been a

487
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: disappointing start giving the optimism of the off seasons for

488
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: the Browns. This is against Cincinnati, another winless team at

489
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: the Browns lose this game at home. We talked a

490
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: little bit about this on Tuesday show. Might get a

491
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: hot butt situation here with Hugh Jackson, which would not

492
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: would be shocking that that could even be thought of

493
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: before October comes. But at a certain point you need

494
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: some type of results and we don't have them right now. Well,

495
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: real quick, I would say it's been just as disappointing

496
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: to start for Cincinnati. But you have a rookie quarterback,

497
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: and I honestly, if you the fans are going to

498
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: start to get hot buddy about Hugh Jackson. Buddy, but

499
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: inside inside the correct use. But they went into this

500
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: season with a rookie quarterback. You cannot you cannot make

501
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: decisions after week four. No, he it is. Well, I'm

502
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna get fired. I'm just saying the

503
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: talk is going to start. It's from a fan angle.

504
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Follow from a fan angle, it already has some follow

505
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: the team extremely close. Will you check in on on

506
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: different websites and everything is the is the fans. Are

507
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: the fans still behind Hugh at this point? I think

508
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: the biggest issue is apathy, but the second is concern

509
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: that the that the that the plan is maybe not

510
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: taking hold. You watched de Shan Kaiser and there's there's

511
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: no sustaining throws in their offense. It's all boom or bus.

512
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: But it is so much fun to watch him. I mean,

513
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: he is exciting. Last week, you know that their defense

514
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: gave up four touchdowns and consecutive drives. I believe to

515
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: the cult, so I mean the defense was a huge

516
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: part of that collapse. Kaiser does so much good. I mean,

517
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: he fills up the box score. He's making crazy plays,

518
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: he makes plays that drive you crazy. He's a fun

519
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: guy though. He is an exciting player to watch, and

520
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: I think overall what he showed in the preseason has

521
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: come with him to the regular season. And if you

522
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: can get a little more help. I think there were

523
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: six drops last week. Certainly the defense didn't. I think

524
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: he's doing a lot. I think the getting killed part

525
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: no is on him almost all of almost all the time.

526
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: He it's him holding like you can count. He's got

527
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball. Teams are blitzing him

528
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: because they see that they're not handling well. And that's

529
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: the problem of having a rookie quarterback. He's not saying,

530
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know how to set the protections.

531
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: You got a new center there too, and and guys

532
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: are just getting in on him. That's partly what there's

533
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: that I was gonna say. Is there any quarterback getting

534
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: victimized more by his own wide receivers? Eight drops last

535
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: week and some terrible drops. It's just in some crazy place.

536
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that Kenny Britt touchdown was we've killed Kenny

537
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Britt is one of the players of the year by

538
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: old Kenny h Tyler Eiffert not playing for Cincinnati. And

539
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: you wonder if there's a crisis of confidence thing going

540
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: on with Andy Dalton, who's really struggled this season. We'll

541
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: see he should be able to move the all against Cleveland.

542
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, you start to wonder about a J. Mccaren.

543
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: From where we are right now, there is a chance

544
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett could make his debut. He's practicing something to

545
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: track all right. Moving on, here's a great game, and

546
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: a game that maybe in August no one would have

547
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: circled and said, oh, this is gonna be a good one.

548
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: Well it could be though, because the Los Angeles Rams

549
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: two and one. Nobody has scored more points in the

550
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: Rams this year. In fact, they have two games out

551
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: of their first three with more than forty points, which

552
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: is crazy, man, because they they were last in scoring

553
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: last year and now they go to Big D. They

554
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: faced Dallas, got it done against Arizona UM after that

555
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: humbling loss to the Broncos, and and Greg Uh Todd

556
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Gurley to me is a lot. Jared Goff's getting a

557
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: lot of uh praise, which he deserves because he's played

558
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: a lot better. But Todd Gurley so far, at least

559
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: to me, Ranks is one of the nicer surprises that

560
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: he seems to have shook off what was a long

561
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: slump and is again a big time player. He played

562
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: with such confidence in that Thursday night game him and

563
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: this is a game where you want to see if

564
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: if they can keep it going because their offensive line

565
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: is playing well better for him. Andrew Whitworth has been

566
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: right there at left tackle certainly in past protection. As

567
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, the best pick up of anyone in free

568
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: agency all year, the fact that he really wanted to

569
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: get out of Cincinnati just to forget about I'm gonna

570
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: go give it to Whitworth alright, alright, and you want

571
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: to see because I don't think this is a Cowboys.

572
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: This is a Cowboys team where the defense needs to

573
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: keep them in games more. It's not gonna be as

574
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: explosive a Cowboys offenses in the past. I'm still a

575
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: little concerned by the Cardinals game where Dallas's defense gave

576
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: up back to back, like eight minute drives to start

577
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: the thing. It's not the total picture because their pass

578
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: rush is certainly with DeMarcus Lawrence like a completely dominating

579
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: beast right now, they're able to take care of quarterbacks.

580
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: But I just look at the Rams and say, honestly,

581
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: this team to me, Todd Gurley told Michael Irvan they

582
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: have confidence. They never seem to have this confidence under

583
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. On offense, he told Michael Irvin, We're gonna

584
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: whoop up on the Boys. That's kind of a crazy

585
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: thing that you never thought you would have heard from

586
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: the from the Rams offense coming out of Week three.

587
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: You don't like that, right, I don't like I think

588
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: that well, I don't think it's It's like if I

589
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: went out on the internet and like hit up every

590
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: opposing podcast was like, we're so much better than you

591
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: and like added you guys, it's a little ridiculous context.

592
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: It was on it was on the it was in

593
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: the post game show and Michael, yeah, I would please

594
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: do that here. Yeah, Michael Irvin was sitting there and

595
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of gave him some you know, grief or whatever.

596
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: You gotta play my Cowboys next. And I love that.

597
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: I love how confident he's playing. I'd like to be

598
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: more confident in Wade Phillips and the Rams defense. They

599
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: need to step up against a Cowboys group that hasn't

600
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: been the same either. Dak Prescott is learning what it's

601
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: like for most young quarterbacks. Suddenly his protections not perfect.

602
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: It's okay, but Lyle Collins on the right side. Everyone

603
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: told me that's a big upgrade. All right, let's see. No,

604
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: he's been he's really struggled. I wonder if they reconsider

605
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: that contract they gave him. And Dak Prescotts learned what

606
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: it's like to not really have much of a running

607
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: game either. Okay, running game not not a great running game,

608
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: not an explosive element down the field gets deep. Unless

609
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm miss misunderstood what you said earlier, Greg, Are you

610
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: confident in saying that you just don't think this offense

611
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: is going to be good as Oh? No, I think

612
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be as good as

613
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: They're not there yet certainly, and maybe they'll never get there.

614
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: But you say it could still happen. I don't think

615
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: they're going to get to last year's level. No, but

616
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I think that's like the Falcons. They were just on

617
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: such another worldly live what quick thing on de Genorris

618
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Jenkins to keep to leave Chris Harris, Patrick Peterson, that's

619
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: who you dealt with so far. I do think there's

620
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: a chance that he used to you know twelve. It's

621
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: here's one thing though, he's he's out there just one

622
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: on one. There's there's no you know. I was watching

623
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Peterson in that game, Aim and they were just out

624
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: there one on one, and that's receivers want that situation.

625
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: Also a little bit of a different take on Tuesday show, Greg,

626
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: you said that Bryce Butler started pipe up about he

627
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: wished he had more Fantasy points and then does is

628
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: like settle down, young book, Like how about the idea

629
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: that he's to himself? He's like, what did he have

630
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: to two catches for? Like maybe he's annoyed because Bryce

631
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Butler is is honking about three for ninety and that

632
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: not being good enough, And like what happened when I

633
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: used to be a guy that was at the top

634
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: of the leaderboards in receiving yards. I wonder if there's

635
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: some frustration behind the scenes. Although I don't deny he's

636
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: probably a better leader than he was when he was younger.

637
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Let's see if he's actually happy with his numbers so

638
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: far this year and whether he's going to point some fingers.

639
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: This is a great game, step up, and I think

640
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Speaker 1: the Rams defense is gonna get better over the course

641
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Speaker 1: of the season. And they start this week and they

642
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: pull off a road upset three and one for the Rams.

643
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Speaker 1: About you, Mark, I'm gonna go with Dallas in a

644
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: in a game though that we That only builds our

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Speaker 1: confidence in the Rams as a long term operation. Both

646
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: the Rams women are in one as well. Moving on,

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Speaker 1: here we go the Tennessee. I have to say this,

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Speaker 1: I don't wanna, you know, get anybody upset the Titans. Titans,

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Speaker 1: Well you're still you know you're refusing to to the

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00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Well that's respect can take it up with

651
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: the fan base. Is that not respectful? I think it

652
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: all right. They got their win at home against the Seahawks,

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00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: and uh, nice, nice job there. They won two in

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Speaker 1: a row after their opener lost to Oakland. Now they

655
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Speaker 1: travel to Houston, uh to face the Texans. Oh. The

656
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: Texans came so close, so close to upsetting the Patriots.

657
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: In fact, as close as you could come if you

658
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: if you rewatch that game, and it had to be

659
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: so painful. And uh, now they get it. They get

660
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: a chance to um pull leave in with the Titans

661
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: and uh and Greg you know remember Lamar Miller was

662
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: my boy last summer. I was thought he would be

663
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: a big player for them. I lost some sandwiches on it.

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Speaker 1: They had a chance to salt that game away against

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and give the Patriots all the credit in

666
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: the world. They got to stop third and one right

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: around the I think around the thirty yard line. They

668
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: need one yard and they got stuffed. They kicked the

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Speaker 1: field goal and then lost because Brady scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I want some onions from Bill O'Brien. I would have

671
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: went for that because it's like, you get two chances

672
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: to get one yard, and if you get the one yard,

673
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: tom Brady can't hurt you. And instead he played it

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00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: safe and he should have known better because he used

675
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: to coach up there and then Tommy Boy banged him,

676
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: even though Tommy Boy needed to get lucky himself for

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00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: that to happen. A tough It was a tough one though,

678
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: because I don't want to get caught up in, you know,

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: reliving that game. But they had made the Patriots punt

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00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: three or four straight times at that point, and if

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Speaker 1: I was the Texans, I wouldn't be confident in picking

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00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: up that one yard because of the way that that

683
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: game went. I would I would have liked to see,

684
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Speaker 1: is get the ball in Deshaun Watson's hands, have him

685
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: rolling out because he is just something special with the

686
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, just the next level of elusiveness

687
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: getting away from defenders. Try to, you know, get him

688
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: on the edge and try to have one of those

689
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: Patriots linebackers run after him, and then you're doing okay

690
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: if they if they, if the defense holds up there

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00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is the number one non anthem NFL story

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: of the week. The fact that he went in there

693
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: and just dropped the hammer. Had he made some mistakes,

694
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: but he made some place to put up thirty plus

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00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: points in Foxborough. Total artist try on the ground and

696
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: to the point where I mean he had the Patriots

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00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: on ice like every time he had the ball. There

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00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: were three or four occasions in that game. And it's

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00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: going to translate to this Titans game too, where the

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Speaker 1: would be Sacker had almost a hand around her on

701
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: Watson and he's skating backwards doing figure eights, He's floating

702
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: to his left, to his right, and then on top

703
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: of that he's picking up yardage or finding a guy.

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00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: There's one pass he made across the field for a

705
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: first down, and it's like, this is stuff scene. It

706
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: reminds me of like young John Elway. To be honest,

707
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: they're not the same style player in every way, but

708
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: vision across the entire plane field. You see when his

709
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: college coach Dabo Sweeney said that any team that will

710
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: pass on him is like passing on Michael Jordan's you

711
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: could see the best version of what this guy can

712
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: be just by what we've seen already that the all

713
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: that ability is there, and if he has the other

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00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: trades that are necessary in terms of the diligence behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, the ability to continue to to build your

716
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: game as you as you get more and more comfortable

717
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL, he really does look like he could

718
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: become that franchise quarterback that Houston has been looking for,

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Speaker 1: really since they became an NFL team. On the other

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: side of the ball, guys, the the the Titans, um

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Speaker 1: are they now in your eyes? All kidding aside? Are

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00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: you not worried about them? You think this is a

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Speaker 1: team that's gonna fulfill that potential become like an eleven

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Speaker 1: win type team, and if they are, they should be

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Speaker 1: able to beat the Texans. To think, I think you

726
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: have to keep winning these This is the kind of

727
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: game you have to win if we're gonna keep looking

728
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: at it that way. This stuff this these teams changed

729
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: from week to week in seventeen. I what I I

730
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: want to see how they handled Texas. The Texans pass rush,

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: which good test put a hurt on Brady and they

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00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: and they created there were more turnovers they could have

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Speaker 1: had than they even did. I don't want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any more about like J. J.

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Lott struggling. Doesn't have a sack this here. He's been

736
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: great those He's getting better every week. The Texans that

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Speaker 1: I've had two of the toughest losses. I feel like

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00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: that was a tough one for them to take and

739
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: they and they admitted it. I mean they in the

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00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: one in the opener that they lost after the hurricane,

741
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: that was a tough one to take. Two and there,

742
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough matchup because Okay, you know,

743
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's exciting, but Marcus Mariota is kind of he's maturing.

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00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: He's turning into that guy that you really trust week

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00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: after week. I think it's almost been overlooked how good

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00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: the Titans have been offensively the last two weeks. Twenty

747
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: seven points against the Jaguars on five straight possessions. They

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00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: just went, you know, they just made the Jaguars defense

749
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: look terrible. Thirty four strip, thirty four points on sixth

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00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: straight scoring possessions against the Seahawks. I mean, this team

751
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 1: is efficient. Every week I write down a Dory Jackson's name,

752
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: and I always forget to say it this. He could

753
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: be the next great punt returner. Hasn't quite happened in

754
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: the NFL yet to two returns for scores because he

755
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: had one called back already and every time he touches

756
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: the ball and I think it's a cornerback. It still

757
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of up and down with him.

758
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: But as a special teams player, my God, reminds me

759
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of Tyreek Hill in terms of his

760
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: return ability and that offense and just everything coming together.

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00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: I think you smell what I'm cooking right there. I'm

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00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up. I am so happy you did that, Greg,

763
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: because Deshaun Watson's a special player, special player that's just

764
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: starting to find his footing. I'm talking, there's potential here

765
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: for this thing to go airborne, this thing to go

766
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: rocket ship launch r G three twelve type stuff. And

767
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: then you factor in that defensive front. Oh. J J. Watt,

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: no sacks, this is all He's never done this. It's

769
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: been years. No j J. Watt, like Greg said, making

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00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: plays every week, still dominant and guess what sacks come

771
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: and bunches. J J. Watt so overdue to wreck a game,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna wreck pretty boy Marcus Mariota and he's like,

773
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: you don't even pronounce Mariota, Mariota, Mariota whatever. It doesn't matter,

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00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: because give me Deshaun Watson Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

775
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna look it up. It's a lockoff. I

776
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: want to get into this. I'm gonna lock up the

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00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: tie potentially just to have some element. I'll tell you

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00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: what happens though, tech the Texans secondary better show up.

779
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: They got flamed. How how more open could Chris Hogan

780
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: have been in the game last week? Give me a

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00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: break with that. This is I mean, I'll tell you

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: what will happen is, Uh, if Dan goes down two

783
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: straight lockoffs, to me, gonna be gonna be tough to

784
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Speaker 1: show up to the to the podcast. I don't know

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00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: how I'll do it. Yeah, I'm the same. I don't

786
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Speaker 1: know if we still do the segment or what was

787
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: so was so freaked out an anxiety ridden that we

788
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: had to get rid of the Uh what did we

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Speaker 1: have to drop because of Greg's sensitive heart couldn't handle it?

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00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: Multis that was that was a man like cowering in

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Speaker 1: the face of picks. I will take my beating like

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Speaker 1: a man, but it's not gonna happen this week. Come

793
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: on us, don Texans, Come on de Sean. Let's move

794
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: on getting rid of the hero picks. Listeners love that

795
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Speaker 1: I didn't get rid of it. You've told me many

796
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: times since you like now picking games. Give me a break.

797
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions two and one tied first in the

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Speaker 1: NFC North Oh who they tied with the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I love this. This is a good stuff. Uh Greg Rosenthal,

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00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford gonna be out again with this. I'm gonna

801
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: say it. Mysterious knee injury, but you know everybody rode

802
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: off the Vikings last week with and then he went

803
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: off and played the game of his life. Was that

804
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of a you know, a shooting star performance and

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00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: one not to count out again. I wouldn't count on

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: that type of performance again. We're anything close to it.

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00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna see more like we've always seen in case Keenu.

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00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: For the most part, his the talent around him is

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: good enough to lift him up. So if he can

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00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: get protected, which he did last week, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it will happen every week. The receiver combination, and

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00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: our friend Matt Harmon, I think, pointed this out and

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00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: I agree right now, Adam Theland and Stefen Diggs might

814
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: be the best wide receiver due in the league. Dalvin

815
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: Cook is one of one of the better starting running

816
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: backs already, it looks like in the league. I mean,

817
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe not top five or anything, but his ability to

818
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: kind of press the hole and then bounce outside that's big.

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Speaker 1: And you have a great defense and you're at home,

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00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: that's a lot of support you're giving case Keenum and

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Speaker 1: I think he can do enough to win this game

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Speaker 1: with all that. Yeah, I mean they have two games

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00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: where they came very close to five dred yards on

824
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: offense and it's not a Luke. And then I look

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: at like Xavier Roads and this Viking secondary watching them

826
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: against the Bucks last week. They frustrated Mike Evans. You know,

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson didn't really get involved until late in that game.

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00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: Everyone talk about the Bucks is this explosive weapons rich

829
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: attack that no one could slow down. The Vikings completely

830
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: removed that passing game from that operate from that entire contest.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge game for Detroit. You're on the

832
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: road you're in the division and you get Case Keenum,

833
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Like if this is the type of team that's thinking,

834
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: all right, ten eleven wins, or let's compete with the

835
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: NFC North. This is this is a big kind of

836
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: division game that you can pick off early because it's

837
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: tough to go to there to Minnesota. But it's Case Keenum.

838
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta take advantage of an

839
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Speaker 1: opportunity like that. Except the Case Keenum through aggressively last week,

840
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and he looked fantastic. He was. That was the most

841
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: confident Case Keenum first half I've ever seen. I mean,

842
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: he looked, he looked completely in control. I don't know.

843
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: If it's a massive downgrade, Well nothing makes sense anymore.

844
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying in this offense, not not

845
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: if you put Case Keenum on another team, and I

846
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: saw over ten weeks, but for one week maybe if

847
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: that case scheme shows up every week, the Vikings first

848
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: of all, never gonna put him back on the bench. Second, well,

849
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: they might be playing in the super Bowl in their

850
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: own building. So I'm but I'm I just don't I

851
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: don't see it happen. Let's see him do it again,

852
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and then we could talk. Let's move on the Carolina Panthers. Uh,

853
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: what a tough, tough, tough loss, got beat up in

854
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: their own building and Cam Newton did not look good

855
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: throwing three picks. And now they go to New England

856
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: and I set up there for the throwing of bees

857
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: by the schedule makers. Get the Panthers in there when

858
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: they're still figuring out their stuff? Well done? What does

859
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: that even mean? They we thought we were like they

860
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: were one of the best teams in the leg a

861
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: week ago. No, it's just like, should we get Cam

862
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: We should we put him? All right, let's let's figure

863
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: this out, guys. Should we put the Panthers in New

864
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: England week thirteen when Camp's shoulders back to normal? Should

865
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: we get him in there September when he's just figuring

866
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: out his stuff and you can't even throw a straight

867
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: line for five yards? Yeah? High fives all around. That's

868
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: been a look at the schedule making back room up

869
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: rations of the national place. Well. Cam Newton's got one of,

870
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: if not the strongest arms of the league right now

871
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: post surgery, so I don't want to hear about strength.

872
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: But he was never he was a mess in terms

873
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: of being able to move a team on a regular

874
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: basis right now. I think it's overstated. I think it's

875
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: the fact that Kelvin Benjamin and Greg Olsen weren't there

876
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: for them last week and for an offense and never

877
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: practiced together all offseason and trying to change things around,

878
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: like Cam could be healthy. He looks healthy to me.

879
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: He's running pretty well, he throws it pretty well. It's

880
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: more of a global offensive issue. I couldn't agree more.

881
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: I think the minute that Greg Olson went out, that

882
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: offense changed. And I'll say I'll forget the throne of

883
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: East business right now, because yes, probably I'll be totally

884
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: wrong and they'll just sail on to thirteen up. I

885
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: ain't locking anything up. Here's what concerns me. If I'm

886
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan that's had nothing but shiny autumn dating

887
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: back to freaking pre nine eleven, give me a break.

888
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: I see it. I see in ten and six team

889
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: right here. Let's see a ten and six type team.

890
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they'll shake it out and figure it

891
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: all out. But their defense, this Patriots defense cannot rush

892
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: the passer. They got absolutely flamed by Deshaun Watson. They

893
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: could not handle a mobile quarterback, and I'm watching Tom

894
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Brady get hit in a way that he is not

895
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: in a long time. That was a disastrous pass protection

896
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: game for the Patriots against the Texans. Their tackles have

897
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: struggled all year, and that was my takeaway finally rewatching it.

898
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is doing too much. You cannot expect him

899
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: to play at this level. You just can't. His tackles

900
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: are struggling. That running game, which I was all jazzed

901
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: up about going into the season. Can you guess what

902
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: the long run of the of the New England Patriots

903
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: are this year? Yeah, I'd say the yards back but

904
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: what But but they're also using their running backs is

905
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: pass catch and that's effective, but they need For for

906
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: a minute, I started to think, like do they miss?

907
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: They're just so pass heavy. They're passing game is phenomenal,

908
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Like they what they can do through the air is

909
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: pretty but exciting to way. I don't think I can

910
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: keep up when the if if Nate Soldier, their left

911
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: tackle plays that bad, if they're not getting running, if

912
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 1: the defense is not playing as well. This the three

913
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: four Remember Bill Belichick kind of he's known for the

914
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: three four right, He's known for his linebackers Lawrence Taylor,

915
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: Carl Banks and Willie McGinnis and Teddy the Pages don't

916
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: have any linebackers. They've played with three linebackers on the

917
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: field five plays this season. They've played with one linebacker

918
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: on the field for fifty seven places. And that's the

919
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: changing NFL to some degree. But it's also just a

920
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: thin position. Don't Harris playing at all? Not interesting? You know?

921
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: My my thoughts having tracked this Patriots team through I

922
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: was gonna say good and bad, but like great and

923
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: good over the years, is like right now. Their first

924
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: in offense, no surprise, and totally ardage. Last in defense,

925
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: that is a surprise. But by the end of the season,

926
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: I think, just the masterful job the coaching staff does,

927
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: led by Belichick, I I would imagine by the end

928
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: of the year you'll see them kind of in the

929
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Maybe I'm wrong, but and that's

930
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: all they really need to get to and then Tommy

931
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: will handle the rest. So but if you want to

932
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: pick off the Patriots right now, this is the time

933
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: to do. That's why the Houston Texans are gonna really

934
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: I know they were kicking themselves. They're gonna really regret

935
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: it when the Texas when the Patriots really round into form,

936
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: and maybe the Panthers have the same open window to

937
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: take advantage of the Patriots who haven't quite figured it

938
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: out yet and they've often struggled with running quarterbacks, including

939
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, who had a nice memorable Monday Night went

940
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: over them four years ago. Let's move on the Jacksonville

941
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: and Jaguars, who of course went to London to Wembley Stadium.

942
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Is this week's International Series game also at Wembley? This

943
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: excuse me? Well, the game the yes, okay, thank you,

944
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: That's all I was asking. I know, I wasn't. I

945
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: just wasn't, just wondering if it maybe went to Twickenham.

946
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: It was essentially what is the mystery of the spin?

947
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: The Browns game is at twicken I called twick. I

948
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: called the twig, the T the t anyway, So for

949
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: seven wipe out of the Ravens, everybody trying to make

950
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: sense of that one, still that twack and then uh

951
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: have a twick. Hey let's go meet at twick. Um?

952
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Uh? They go to the medal

953
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: ends down to face the Jets. They are favorites in

954
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: this game. The Jacksonville Jaguars road favorites who would have

955
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: thunk it. But I'll say this, Greg, I the Jets

956
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: are still a bad team, bad football team. There's just

957
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: too many holes on the team. But you saw the

958
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: best version of the Jets against the Dolphins that can

959
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: make plays on defense in the veteran quarterback doesn't blow

960
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: the game up, in fact makes a couple of plays.

961
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: The idea that Jaguars are gonna have an easy win.

962
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't see forty seven here by any stretch. No.

963
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: I thought about locking this up for the Jaguars, but

964
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me. I know there's

965
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: a little part of you that's thinking, can we be

966
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: two and two coming out of here and be a

967
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: little fun story. I would be really really torn if

968
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: they want again, because yes, this is a very winnable Jets.

969
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: As a just a fan of the Jets, um there

970
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: would be something fun about that, But I still big

971
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: picture know that that would probably hurt scam for Sam Fabats,

972
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Texas Southern. The one thing you want,

973
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: if you're you know, a Jets fan more than anything

974
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: is some young players to get excited and build around,

975
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: and Jamal Adams just like he's all over the place.

976
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: He's just really a special guy. Like you think of

977
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: her old Thomas or something like that. He had those

978
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: two plays back to back last week, and He's done

979
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: this a few times this season where I'll just make

980
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: plays in succession, but one where he's covering receiver going

981
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: up the slot and at the last second he sees

982
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: what Cutler's doing, he peels off. He runs across the

983
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: field like Superman, flies through the air and breaks it up.

984
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: The very next play he rushes the passer. He's going

985
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: up against a left tackle, a little safety going up

986
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: against left tackle. He didn't he didn't pass him or anything,

987
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: but he kept his eyes in the quarter back and

988
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: when he saw the chance, he sprung and he sacked

989
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Cutler on that plan. I mean, this is next level stuff.

990
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: He's got to be exciting. It's very exciting to have

991
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: like a young star defender. And the Jets are notorious

992
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: and unlucky franchise, but two out of the the last four

993
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: years they were at number six on the draft board

994
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: and ended up getting a guy that could easily been

995
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: a top pick in a draft. And Leonard Williams and

996
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: now Jamal Adams, I think he has that type of

997
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: potentially played all over the field. Uh, Greg was saying, cornerback, safety, linebacker.

998
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean he did it all. And that's exactly the

999
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: type of guys you got a builder on. Marcus Mays,

1000
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: the other guy that got talked up this summer. I

1001
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: haven't seen as much as from him, but Adams is

1002
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: really flash when it it makes your entire defense better.

1003
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: Because a guy like Terrence Brooks, who had a big

1004
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: game when you're safe, when you're safety, was in the

1005
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: layer of the week. Yeah, I mean he's their whole

1006
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: secondary tackled very well. Give me a break to Mario Davis,

1007
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: a guy that got traded but from the Browns for

1008
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: Calvin Pryor, who's on his fourth or fifth team at

1009
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: this point since then, a guy who's just a dude. Right,

1010
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: he played a fantastic game against the Dolphins. But I'll

1011
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: tell you what on the flip side, you want good

1012
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: secondary play A j boyer, Jalen Ramsey. You know what

1013
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: they remind me of when I watched them together, way

1014
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: they dominated last week. A Jags team that ran a

1015
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: fake punt when they're up thirty seven and nothing. They're

1016
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: feeling themselves. They remind me. And this is going way

1017
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: back to watching Frank Midfield in hand for Dixon when

1018
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: the Browns had two cornerbacks that shut down. I am

1019
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: very old, but they when the Jaguars can do that,

1020
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is not a fluke. They are shutting

1021
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: down passing entirely. Wars are not a fluke on defense.

1022
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: It's a matter of the Blake bordles that through. It

1023
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: helps when you're not down by twenty five points when

1024
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback. But the Jags are gonna win this game,

1025
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: I believe, because I think you're gonna need multiple kind

1026
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: of dimensions on offense to move the ball on them

1027
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: with because of Ramsey and Boyer. I think the longest

1028
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: reception Ramsey has given up all years eight yards. So

1029
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I just don't see the Jets having enough dimensions to

1030
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: really score any point. Josh McCown has played very well

1031
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: this season. I think he has a lot of trouble

1032
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: in this game. Do you like Robbie Anderson He's here?

1033
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: I do. I do. Robbie Anderson's raw. He's definitely a playmaker,

1034
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: don't he might be a knucklehead. I got I've got

1035
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: my eye on Robbie whether he's a guy that you

1036
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: build build, well, just I can't do some research on him. Um,

1037
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: here we go, Week four, moving on the San Francisco

1038
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: forty Niners traveling to Arizona's got a big file of

1039
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Rabbie Anderson. Anyone who's making plays for you right now? Please? Um,

1040
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: you know West has a Cincinnati Bengals file, My Robbie

1041
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: Anderson file. That's that's a true story, all right. The

1042
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: Niners oh and three? Uh but you know yeah almost

1043
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: one last week that's nice. Scored some points, so you've

1044
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: got something to build off at least, and now they

1045
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: got to face the Cardinals. And we talked about this

1046
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: on our pick Um Show, which you could watch all

1047
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: this weekend Friday, uh, Saturday and Sunday. Maybe check your

1048
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: local listenings very early Sunday, but I don't believe it's

1049
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: on on Friday, but it is on nine am Eastern,

1050
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: two pm, two pm Eastern and eleven pm Eastern and

1051
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you can do the math after that, and then yes,

1052
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: it is on Sunday morning as well. I think Saturday

1053
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: and Sunday. Anyway, we talked about, um, what is like

1054
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: a who do you trust? Scenario the Niners feeling a

1055
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: little better about themselves, scoring some points and almost pulling

1056
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: off that game last Thursday, but then you got the

1057
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals one and two. Uh, dispiriting loss of the Cowboys

1058
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: at home. UH. And now they're at home again, needing

1059
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: a win at one and two, and there's a there's desperation.

1060
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: Desperation uh. Mark is a powerful thing. I feet the Cardinals,

1061
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: when healthy, could play with almost anyone in the league,

1062
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: and we saw that early on against the Cowboys. I

1063
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: think the biggest key here is to not have a

1064
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: You don't put Carson Palmer into a situation where he

1065
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: has to move with his feet or where he's flying

1066
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: on his back and they're getting Micu Potty back chance

1067
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: he said to play Sunday and the Cardinals like they're

1068
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna get left tackle d J. Humphreys back. I think

1069
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: that automatically stabilizes an offense. That is a big problem

1070
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: because I don't like any of their running backs. It's

1071
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: essentially channeled all through Larry Fitzgerald at this point. But

1072
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: they did move the ball against Dallas despite their offensive

1073
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: line injuries last week. They're they're a limited team on

1074
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And I want to

1075
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: see some of the defensive players. You know, we heard

1076
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: a lot and I talked up Tyron Matthew in the

1077
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: offseason and he did make a game winning, you know,

1078
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: a huge interception in this season. So it's not like

1079
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: he hasn't been there, but I'd like to see him

1080
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: be a little more active, you know, him and Patrick Peterson.

1081
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: It's it's weird that Tyvan Branches making more place alright.

1082
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Philadelphia Eagles two and one, uh, and

1083
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: they had of course a dramatic, dramatic win. Uh when

1084
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: they're uh. Kicker Jake Elliott drilled the sixty one yard

1085
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 1: or to beat the Giants in fact, real quick Erica.

1086
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: I know. The Eagles tweeted out the Spanish length broadcast

1087
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: of Elliott's game winner. You guys want to hear that

1088
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: sometimes that's fun. Elliot say, Look, I know what Jake

1089
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: says that you get us. Well, he said, yes out

1090
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: of the gate that I got there, You go, that

1091
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: was I knew every word there By the way, you

1092
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: guys not as plugged in. There is a time in

1093
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: a round it was around. I will say that I

1094
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: took a mind altering drug in New York City and

1095
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: rode the subway system and could literally read Spanish on

1096
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: these Spanish subway signs. And I am not kidding. I

1097
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: was doing it with a friend and he's also illegal.

1098
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: It was a legal over the counter. Can't touch me,

1099
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: Mr Cesler, come with us, all right? So the Eagles

1100
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: two and one after that dramatic when they traveled to

1101
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: I don't believe that, by the way, but I love

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: this story. Los Angeles Chargers winless and uh, you know

1103
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: what can you say? I mean, Doug Peterson as the Eagles,

1104
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: uh scoring points on offense. Uh, and the Chargers they

1105
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: just can't they can't get out of their own way.

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: I need to see more out of the Seagles team,

1107
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: even though I did pick them to win the division too. Really,

1108
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: I really they're one of the teams I feel like

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00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: I have no feel for yet what they really are

1110
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, and they've had a

1111
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of injuries. Michael Kendricks has stepped up and is

1112
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: playing well for them at linebacker. But when you look

1113
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: at the Charges, you you kind of do know what

1114
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: you're getting a little bit out of their defense, which

1115
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: is it's soft in the middle. It's you're getting some

1116
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley complaints already from the Chargers fans, just like

1117
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: there were complaints about them. You know in Jacksonville that

1118
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: that you can run on this team, And that's a

1119
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: great recipe for the Eagles because I think they really

1120
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: did find I think they want to be a running team.

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: But you know, with with Wentz as a as a

1122
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: guy who can threaten you running and I think their

1123
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: line is really set up to be a good run

1124
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: blocking team. Well we finally saw that last week with

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00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: the Garrett Blunt I just at Smallwood. I I don't

1126
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: understand this Charger's team. I I feel like we saw

1127
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, Melvin Gordon got hurt at a halftime and

1128
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: missed almost all of the second half, opened up looking great.

1129
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was his best half of the season.

1130
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's what they want to be. I

1131
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: don't think they want to keep putting everything on Philip

1132
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: Rivers plate over and over. But it felt to me

1133
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: watching them again just sort of this desperation offense where

1134
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: you have all this talent and that no one really

1135
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: seems to be the core anchoring force, so just zinging

1136
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: the ball downfield, left and right, and I'd rather see

1137
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: a more balanced offense where maybe you know, Keenan Allen

1138
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: plays a more significant role week to week versus just

1139
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: deep shots over and over and on the other side

1140
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: of the ball. It has been Yes, some of our

1141
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: fantasy friends, uh here at NFL media and anybody else

1142
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: that plays fantasy football. Uh, it's been an apocalypse at

1143
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: the tight end position this year. One guy that has

1144
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: been active and as a guy you can get by

1145
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, who leads the NFL and targets reception, is

1146
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: receiving yards first downs. Uh. He is him and Carton

1147
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. They could be attendem for a long time.

1148
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: We'll see if they Peterson used Kansas City. One thing

1149
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: with the Chargers is just that Jason Varrette is out

1150
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: for the season when we haven't really talked about it,

1151
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: and that's one of the they they're a better team

1152
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: in theory than they are in practice because Jason Verrett,

1153
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: who we think of, Okay, you've got a good secondary,

1154
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: but he's never on the field. He's missed more than

1155
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: half the games of in his career and he's gonna

1156
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: miss the rest of the season. Moving on, the New

1157
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: York Giants winless after that loss of the Eagles now

1158
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: travel to Tampa to face the Buccaneers, who are a

1159
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: bit of a bit jackal and high at this stage.

1160
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: Mark They looked every bit as good as you thought

1161
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: they would in their first game in Week two against

1162
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: the Bears, and then just kind of got whooped up

1163
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: on by the Vikings. Last week. There was even maybe

1164
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: a little little bit of shade being thrown by Mike

1165
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: Evans on social media that maybe he was open a

1166
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: lot and just was not being properly targeted by his

1167
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: buddy Jamis Winston. Uh So, a little bit of juice

1168
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: around the Bucks. H how do you see this plan out? Well,

1169
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: I can imagine, I just said Jacklin Hide, They're probably

1170
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna bounce back, and the Giants are in a place

1171
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: of desperation. But if I want to make a case

1172
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: for New York what they did in the final, you know,

1173
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: twenty minutes against the Philadelphia Eagles, their passing game finally

1174
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: woke up, and I watched a Bucks team that got

1175
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: literally evaporated by the Vikings offense that the Ryan Ryan Smith,

1176
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: the Bucks cornerback, was literally destroyed by Stephen Diggs last week.

1177
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: It was. It was one of the messiest performances I've

1178
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: seen by a secondary. It was embarrassing, it was destroying,

1179
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing and I and honestly, the Giants left

1180
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: a lot of points on the board in that game.

1181
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: So I I don't know. I I would Tampa Bay

1182
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: can be taken through the air, and if New York can,

1183
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: if Eli Manning can start the way he did last week,

1184
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: and they can stay as hot towards the end, they

1185
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: can make this another game that they'll probably lose a

1186
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: heartbreaking fashion. Well, Ryan Smith is Brent Grimes's replacement, and

1187
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: Grimes will be back this week, so that's a huge

1188
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: helps plus. But Kwan Alexander and Lavanti David looked like

1189
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: they're both gonna be out again, and that really takes

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01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: out You know what was interesting about this defense is

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01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: you had playmakers on the defensive line with McCoy, and

1192
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: then that linebacker group is kind of the core of

1193
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: that defense, and now you don't have the both of

1194
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: your guys. They're really not the same team. Am I crazy?

1195
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: I really think the Giants are gonna win this game.

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: It's not crazy at all. I mean the Bucks also

1197
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: they missed. They're not heavy favorites in this game, so

1198
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: it's it. It shows that the Bucks people are wondering

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: about them because they're off. In that first week against

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: the Bears, the offense struggled. You know, they didn't need

1201
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: to do much, but the offense really hasn't gotten going.

1202
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: Hey there, Hey, you area eight year old still trying

1203
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: to figure out the alphabet, basic phonetics in the larger

1204
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: world beyond your safe front door while you live in

1205
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: a swirl of looped mind numbing fan made videos of

1206
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 1: cute kittens on YouTube. How about you up your game?

1207
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: How about you look toward the east? At the accomplishments

1208
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: of English philosopher, economist, and civil servant John Stuart Mill.

1209
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: At the age of eight, John Stuart Mill took up

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: studying Latin texts, algebra, theory, and the works of Euclid.

1211
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: Instead of being locked on some device like a free,

1212
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: willing child zombie, mills spare time was composed of pouring

1213
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: through dense historical texts, but only after the eight year

1214
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: old intellectual workhorse ripped through every commonly taught Latin and

1215
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Greek author available to students of the day. By the

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01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: age of ten, John Stuart Mill could read Plato with

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: the ease of a drowsy parents cycling through Goodnight Moon.

1218
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: His father also urged ten year old John Stewart Mill

1219
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: to study and compose his own poetry. One of Mill's

1220
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: earliest poetic compositions was a continuation of the iliad Are

1221
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: you listening? Lazy Children of the modern day? He penned

1222
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Speaker 1: a sequel to the Iliad. When John Stuart Mill felt

1223
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: the urge to let his hair down, he dabbled in

1224
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: popular lighter fare such as Don Quyote and Robinson Caruso.

1225
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Speaker 1: Dubbed the most influential English speaking philosopher of the nineteenth century,

1226
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: Mill once famously told a crowd of teenage never do wells.

1227
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: One person, one person with a belief, is equal to

1228
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: a force of ninety nine who only have interests. Young

1229
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: children of America, dust off the cobwebs and get to work.

1230
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Get on your skateboards, your unicycles, your dogs serving as

1231
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: small horses, and your four dred and thirty dollar hoverboards

1232
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: and zoom on over to Mr Flames high school economics

1233
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: class in the Hague, the Netherlands today. First of all,

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01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know who green lights those. I don't know

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: how it helps. Mr Flames class um a lot of

1236
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: information in there. It was comprehensive. The copy is gonna

1237
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: get on one page, the turn the page turn in

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the copy. Bad listen, I have to

1239
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: make it a large text. It's crazy stuff. I'm just

1240
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 1: glad I don't have like an eight year old kidder.

1241
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: I was be worried that that was the large like

1242
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: subtweet at my children. That was a compositive every eight

1243
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: year old American child today the time, Luke, it's got

1244
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: to be worried. He's what he's he's seven. Now he's good,

1245
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: he's coming up to a big eight. He he's exempt

1246
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: from this, alright. Moving on the Oakland Raiders two and

1247
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: two and one, um, and now they take on this

1248
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: is this saucy one. This must be the geem Tony game.

1249
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: Like Greg said, they got the Denver Broncos. It is,

1250
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: by the way I have. So this is the Raiders

1251
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: offense against the Broncos defense. Greg, uh, you like Denver's chances?

1252
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: I know you do. I do. I was thinking of

1253
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: locking this one up. I think this is the game

1254
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: of the week. I'm glad that Tony Romo is on it.

1255
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: I hope you know, are downstairs editor doesn't assign Mark

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: to this game, so I can watch it freely. I mean,

1257
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: you could just simply request maybe getting you we okay,

1258
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: maybe I'll request it. Because this is a big game

1259
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. You come out after that primetime game,

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01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: you want to show that that's not your offense. If

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: you're a Mari Cooper, I think you want to show

1262
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: that the drops that he's had all season and the

1263
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: mental errors, you know, and one that first car interception

1264
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: he slows down on his route. That type of stuff

1265
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: happens too much for for him to really be a

1266
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: top notch receiver. Their offensive line had, you know, an

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01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: embarrassing game for them considering how good they are, and

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Speaker 1: now they got to go up against what I think

1269
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: might be the best defensive line in the league. And

1270
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: you don't think of the Broncos that way, but the

1271
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: way they line up, Von Miller and Shack Barrett are

1272
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage, so you can call him

1273
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: the linebacker. I don't care. They they're on the line

1274
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and Derek Wolfe and next to him Shelby Harris,

1275
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: who has come out of nowhere this year are both

1276
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: really playing well and these four players, they even played

1277
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: well in Buffalo for the for the most part, I

1278
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: think they could give Oakland problems. Again, it's a great

1279
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: matchup and it's really kind of the way the Chiefs

1280
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: are playing right now. You don't want to fall to

1281
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: two and two. If you're the Raiders, you don't want

1282
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: to lose two straight high profile games that that that

1283
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: would shake them up a little bit. I think you

1284
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: summed it up perfectly. We're talked last preview show about

1285
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders having talent wise, maybe the most allent of

1286
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: any offense in the league. And it starts with their

1287
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: two wide receivers. And who would have thought we would

1288
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: have seen what happened against Washington Secondary. Now you go

1289
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: deal with Denver's which is, you know, on paper, much

1290
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: better and I again I think it's I think playing

1291
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: in Denver is is another just like Buffalo, another underrated venue,

1292
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: and I I don't I think this is a This

1293
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: is a gut check for the Raiders because you're suddenly

1294
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: in a hole you never thought you'd be here at

1295
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: this point in the season. No offense moves in the

1296
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain, Blizzard Marshawn Lynch. Not a run over fifteen

1297
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: yards this entire season. This is a huge game work

1298
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: shopping nicknames, guys, Just what is this the marsha give

1299
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: it to us. I didn't even put it together. You

1300
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: can't march it offense through the Rocky Mountain blizzard? Not bad?

1301
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: What about when it's sunny there? Yeah, isn't it always

1302
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: a blizzard at the top of the mountain, just like

1303
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean Rocky Mountain blizzard? Is that mountain? It works

1304
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 1: like an elite mountain. Isn't it always snowing up there?

1305
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: This needs to be a Marshawn Lynch game because because

1306
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: the Broncos they played dime defense, six defensive backs on

1307
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: the field fifty seven percent of the time. So that's

1308
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: their defense six their daring teams to run on them.

1309
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why I think that the front

1310
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: line has been so good. They put a lot of

1311
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: pressure on that front line and teams haven't really run

1312
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: through them at all. They've stuffed McCoy, they stuffed Zeke,

1313
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: who else did they stuff Gordon? They've been great stopping

1314
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: the run. I got you like pointed at me, like

1315
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: sticking it to me, like I've been an anti dime

1316
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: defense guy for decades. Can between Um, I have a

1317
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: couple of thoughts, and then we got to move on

1318
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: on Denver. First of all, Jamal Charles definitely has juice.

1319
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: Three really runs, including that touchdown. It's it's basically the

1320
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: opposite of the ap effect. In New Orleans, they got

1321
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: a Vedroom who's really helped their offense offense and Trevor Simeon. Uh,

1322
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: I thought he actually played a pretty solid game with

1323
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: the two picks though, were like straight out of the

1324
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez playbook. I had to like do a double

1325
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: take because they were that bad at the end for him. Yeah,

1326
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: they were kind of really ill ill fated decision making

1327
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: and maybe overtrusting his physical abilities in that spot. Uh So,

1328
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go crazy about it, but they were

1329
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: very bad passes and you want to take that at

1330
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: of his repertoire. Let's move on to the Indianapolis Cults.

1331
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: At the Seattle Seahawks uh to one and two games,

1332
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you gotta like that Jake Briskett who has

1333
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: essentially slice. Jake Brice thought that drop would get as

1334
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: much mileage as it has. Uh. He's he has the potential.

1335
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: Now we'll be at will be at the NFL Honors

1336
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: as Jake Brisket picks up his second m VP award

1337
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: in the year, just being played over and over again,

1338
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: and we're all going mad. Uh, you know if he

1339
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: he is in position now as he travels to Seattle

1340
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: to face the Seahawks where he could save the season

1341
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: or at least hand it over to Andrew Luck who's

1342
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: starting to make some progress. Now we're hearing his return

1343
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: may not be imminent, but he's on the grid now.

1344
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: So you have that situation with the Cults, so they

1345
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: have they have a quarterback they can trust a little bit,

1346
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: which was not Scott Tolzine. And then you have the Seahawks,

1347
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: mark who are one of the mysteries of the NFL season.

1348
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: The offense obviously, but I'm gonna also bring up the

1349
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: defensive line, which once they got Sheldon Richardson, was supposed

1350
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: to be like to use a check is um gangbusters.

1351
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 1: But they've been a league average unit. They're not making

1352
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: plays and and you're wondering what is going on with

1353
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: the Seahawks period. Yeah, I mean two weeks ago, hundred

1354
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: and fifty nine yards on the ground given up last

1355
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: week a hundred and nine to the Titans. My concern

1356
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: a little bit for the Cults is this matchup a

1357
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: it's in look, it's in Seattle, it's primetime. Seattle wants

1358
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: to shake off a lot of the early critique they got.

1359
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: I honestly think that matters in a game like this,

1360
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: and we could maybe just get a good old fashioned Seattle,

1361
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: just a wipeout type game. That said, the Colts do

1362
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: a lot of things well, I just don't know if

1363
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: they if what they do well is what Seattle doesn't like.

1364
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: The Frank core I think has looked good this season,

1365
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think that you look at them as

1366
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: a ground game at all. They're not. They're just a

1367
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: very average running team. And can they go away and

1368
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: make big plays down the field. T Y Hilton destroyed

1369
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,839
Speaker 1: Cleveland secondary last week, but now you're dealing with Richard Sherman,

1370
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and Seattle's Colts also got good pass rush

1371
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 1: against the Browns. I don't know what that means except

1372
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 1: that Seattle is certainly they can be victimized that way.

1373
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson should take some confidence and the

1374
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: offensive line should in the way that they played in Tennessee.

1375
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: It's not like those were garbage time points. They were

1376
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: never totally out of that game, and they put up

1377
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: they put up a lot of points like that. That

1378
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: was a building block type of game. I think the

1379
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: Colts are playing over their head and they played better

1380
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: at home than they will on the road. And this

1381
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: is a recipe for a wipeout for a Seahawks team

1382
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: that's just been mediocre. I mean, if you look at

1383
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: football outsiders right now, they have the seventeenth best offense

1384
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: in the eighteenth best defense. You do not expect to

1385
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: see the best defense out of the Sea. But I

1386
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: can't think of a team that's more. I don't know why.

1387
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they're comfortable with it. I think that's

1388
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: that's a problem to them, but they Richard always know

1389
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: he and also I think Richard Sherman. I think Richard

1390
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: Sherman last week lost his head and he and I

1391
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: think the whole the whole thing that affected that game,

1392
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: the Richard Sherman three penalties in one play and then

1393
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: he had another one later. It's just come on, hasn't

1394
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: done much. Michael Bennett's not filling up the box score.

1395
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: Like there, they got problems right now, and you wonder

1396
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: when they're gonna get healthy. This feels like on Sunday night. Uh.

1397
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: And this is a team that's been playing big games

1398
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: for years now that they'll get up and against an

1399
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: opponent like this, maybe get healthy a little bit. That's

1400
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: how I see playing out. But they won't even tell

1401
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: me anything. It will need to get their mojo going

1402
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, and maybe this is this feels like

1403
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: a perfect place for a dab. And if it doesn't,

1404
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: it feels like a game that that should be flex

1405
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: but it's not allowed to be in the first for

1406
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: they have the Rams the week after that is interesting,

1407
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: all right. Finally, Monday Night football the Washington Redskins, Uh,

1408
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: really evaporated. I'm gonna use marks were there? Evaporated the Raiders,

1409
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't makes sense, doesn't make sense, but it's fun.

1410
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: What is that when liquid turns into gas? Yeah? I

1411
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: mean in this case, I would see more just like

1412
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: obliterated to something below dust. It's sad that like none

1413
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: of us are confident enough to like into vapor vapors

1414
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: and it helps create the clouds and the crowds bring

1415
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: the rain backed in to the earth. How does rain work? Uh?

1416
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: So they're doing one and now they get the Chiefs

1417
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 1: uh at home? That's cut that for a drop there?

1418
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: How does rain work? Three? And Oh? I love these Chiefs.

1419
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: I'm fully confident that they're gonna beat up on many,

1420
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: many many teams this week. And I'll tell you what,

1421
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lock it up because locking up the

1422
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs at home feels a little cheap. But they're playing

1423
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: a good team. I don't think that'd be cheap. Well,

1424
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: I like our lock off anyway, like that we have

1425
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: another lock off. But I feel really good Greg that

1426
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs again are going to take care of business.

1427
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: And moved to four and oh, tell me why I'm wrong.

1428
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: I won't because I believe that they'll do it. But

1429
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't believe they'll It'll be some comfortable game. I

1430
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: think because they're three and oh, and they have been

1431
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: impressive and consistent, maybe we make a little more out

1432
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: of the last two weeks, especially Alex Smith, than than

1433
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: we need to. They've just looked like the Chiefs. You know,

1434
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: they've been in fourth quarter games that are tight. You

1435
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: you close strong against the Eagles, you close strong against

1436
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: the Charges, You have different ways to win games. I

1437
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: don't think this is a team that's gonna go out

1438
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: and win fourteen games. I just don't or or thirteen game.

1439
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have their losses along the way. Yeah,

1440
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: I think you need to you need to disrupt Kansas

1441
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: City and probably really win the turnover battle for a

1442
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: chance to beat them because there isn't really a week

1443
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: to week week spot for them. They're very well coached.

1444
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: I think Andy Reid is absolutely in his groove. I

1445
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: mean you're watching them running the pistol, the inverted wishbone

1446
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: every play. It's something different. I mean Tony Romo said

1447
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know that they're gonna they stole a

1448
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: play from the Chiefs. You know they're so impressed with Yeah,

1449
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: they really are. I I I do say this about

1450
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: Washington because you would have thought, oh, they're gonna need

1451
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior to do X, Y and Z for them

1452
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: to exist week to week. Jamison Crowder I thought would

1453
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: have a huge season. He's not off to a huge star.

1454
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior has not been in sync with Kirk Cousins.

1455
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Reed is not someone you can count a week

1456
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: to week and then the Redskins find a guy like

1457
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson and they're using other players. Then they're very

1458
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: well coached on offense. They they have upside. You know,

1459
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 1: as you're talking about that, it makes a good point,

1460
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: like they have upside to get a lot better. And

1461
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: them and the Bills were criticized about as much as

1462
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,879
Speaker 1: any two teams in the in the league this offseason

1463
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: in this room, and here they are two and one.

1464
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: They're both looking pretty good. I was trying to figure

1465
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: out what what is different about this defense, and it's

1466
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 1: just it's just a lot of solid contributors. You know,

1467
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: Scott mcgluwen, like Dave Gettlman, the moves that he made

1468
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: are working out pretty well. The DJ Swerringer, you know,

1469
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 1: Zach Brown, they picked up. They've kept Junior Galet forever

1470
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: and finally he's playing some meaningful snaps for them. It's

1471
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: just a lot of guys playing a little bit what

1472
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: was it wishbone? What was it? The inverted wishbone. I mean,

1473
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: they just they run. They they the Niners under Harbor

1474
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: member they would used to go crazy. They show they

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Speaker 1: used twelve different like sets in series and formations every half,

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Speaker 1: and I think the chiefs are kind of that diverse

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Speaker 1: and that experience to be doing that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I had a extro extroverted wishbone joke. All cute up,

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Speaker 1: but we gotta go. It was really good one though, guys,

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Speaker 1: bring it back Sunday night. It will still be friends.

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Speaker 1: It was like a really outgoing, self assured wishbone. It's

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Speaker 1: feeling good about itself. All right, let's go. We have to,

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Speaker 1: uh move on out of here. Make sure you check

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Speaker 1: out NFL pick them airing Saturdays and Sunday's check your

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Speaker 1: DVR local listenings, uh and give us some support and

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Speaker 1: also NFL dot com slash a t N video can

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Speaker 1: find all our video content, including our video Tuesday Show.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, But now we gotta go. This is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansis signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Old Boss

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Speaker 1: and the Loose Cannon behind the glass. Let me go.

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Speaker 1: Mark I headed the week before almost the corn till

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Speaker 1: Sunday