Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the I Choose Me podcast. Okay, so
Speaker 1: for this episode, guess what I choose you? I ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: what you want to know about my overall health journey.
Speaker 1: And boy, oh boy, did you ask me some great questions.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your personal
Speaker 1: experiences and being so vulnerable with me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We received so many incredible questions. As I mentioned on
Speaker 1: my story, May is Women's Health Month. Men, don't worry,
Speaker 1: you're going to get your time. It's only a week.
Speaker 1: But hey, we'll celebrate you and we'll talk about all
Speaker 1: that man's stuff.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: So back to my ladies. I am going to bring
Speaker 1: in Adele today. Our in house therapist, Adele House is
Speaker 1: in the house and we are going to discuss all
Speaker 1: things women's health. This is perfect because we've been through
Speaker 1: all the ups and downs of being a woman together,
Speaker 1: so it feels really right to have her here to
Speaker 1: do this with me today. Now, remember I just want
Speaker 1: to say, Adele and I are not doctors. These answers
Speaker 1: are going to be based purely on our experiences and
Speaker 1: our lessons that we have learned from our many years
Speaker 1: here on this planet. But this is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things about women, that we are always here for
Speaker 1: each other and always eager to talk and share what
Speaker 1: we know. So, Adele, can you hear me? Are you there?
Speaker 2: I'm here? Hi? Denny?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 2: Hi? Oh?
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I want to ask you? No, I
Speaker 1: want you to ask me these amazing questions. Let's talk
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to ask you and I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: There's some great questions here. So should we just dive
Speaker 2: right in?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, oh wow. All right, So let's start
Speaker 2: with this one. This one is from at Mel McDonald.
Speaker 2: How do you not let social media enhance insecurities?
Speaker 1: Oh? Hi Mel, thanks for your question. That's a doozy.
Speaker 1: That's a question we've never even had to think about,
Speaker 1: you know, until these days of late with the social
Speaker 1: media and all. I wish. I wish this wasn't a
Speaker 1: question quite honestly, not that you know, not because of
Speaker 1: you mail, but because you know, it's unavoidable, right, Like,
Speaker 1: no one is safe from feeling insecure as they scroll scroll,
Speaker 1: scroll on the gram on the TikToker, wherever you're seeing it.
Speaker 1: It's really hard. It's hard for me too. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes I give myself a no scroll rule, Like I
Speaker 1: don't go in and look at other people's stuff. I
Speaker 1: just go in and post my stuff and talk to
Speaker 1: my friends on there, you know, and respond and do
Speaker 1: things like that. I give myself a scroll break because
Speaker 1: it does it makes it can make you feel yucky,
Speaker 1: and it kind of sets a bad tone for the
Speaker 1: rest of your day or your night, especially if you're
Speaker 1: looking at that stuff at night right ah, before bed.
Speaker 1: My girls do that, They scroll at night. It like
Speaker 1: puts them to sleep. I don't know what's up with that,
Speaker 1: but that cannot be good for you. I tell them
Speaker 1: not to do it, but they do it anyway.
Speaker 2: I want to add something here because I've known you
Speaker 2: for so long and I know there was a period
Speaker 2: of time where you took a break on social media
Speaker 2: because it was it was too hard and it was
Speaker 2: getting into your insecurity. But something shifted for you. You
Speaker 2: mentally shifted and made it okay for yourself because you
Speaker 2: you have a business, and you have a presence, and
Speaker 2: you are a known person, and you decided you wanted
Speaker 2: to be a part of it. Do you remember what
Speaker 2: shifted for you.
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly. I just know that at some
Speaker 1: point I decided to embrace all of it, and through
Speaker 1: people's comments and the stuff that I see on social
Speaker 1: it is educating me now instead of upsetting me. I
Speaker 1: tend to just go to the positive things. If something's
Speaker 1: negative or something doesn't feel good right away, I just
Speaker 1: go right past it because I don't have time in
Speaker 1: my life for that kind of those feelings, you know,
Speaker 1: and I know how they can sort of derail you,
Speaker 1: and I'm not interested in getting derailed anymore. You kind
Speaker 1: of have to make that. You kind of have to
Speaker 1: make that decision for yourself, Like I don't want I
Speaker 1: don't want to feel crappy. So guess what, I have
Speaker 1: the power. I'm not going to look at that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that shift in you.
Speaker 1: And there's tons of people that I follow. I never
Speaker 1: look at their stuff like no offense. But I don't
Speaker 1: look at Kardashian stuff. I don't look at you know,
Speaker 1: the things that like that that are super out there
Speaker 1: for effect or to make people want to see more,
Speaker 1: like I just avoid that.
Speaker 2: So this is so amazing because I want to add
Speaker 2: to this, because this is One of the things that
Speaker 2: I worked on with a lot of people in therapy,
Speaker 2: and what we worked on is paying attention to your
Speaker 2: insides when you are scrolling. And if you're only scrolling
Speaker 2: like first trappy stuff or you know, like impossible beauty
Speaker 2: standard stuff, you better check in and see how that
Speaker 2: makes you feel. And if you feel less, then then
Speaker 2: your I don't want to say you're doing it wrong,
Speaker 2: but you might want to look at how you're doing it.
Speaker 1: You maybe start if you start following like positive feeds,
Speaker 1: people that are putting out positive content, body positive stuff,
Speaker 1: realistic you know for your age kind of content. Start
Speaker 1: following those people instead. And you know what, you don't
Speaker 1: have to unfollow the other people. You can just mute them, yeah,
Speaker 1: and go back to them anytime you feel like that's
Speaker 1: you need a little hit of it exactly. You have
Speaker 1: all the control, though.
Speaker 2: What do you think you want to go to the
Speaker 2: next one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, good, all right? I
Speaker 2: love this question. This is from at jay a Manny.
Speaker 2: I think please discuss the importance of advocating for yourself
Speaker 2: with doctors. I so begged my last doctor to do
Speaker 2: a hormone test and she refused.
Speaker 1: What ja manny go to a different doctor. Yeah right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like if you request something from your doctor, that's what
Speaker 1: they're there for, to give you the information that you're
Speaker 1: asking for. And what a hormone? That's a blood test,
Speaker 1: isn't it. So that's just a simple blood draw. There's
Speaker 1: absolutely no explanation in my opinion, why a doctor wouldn't
Speaker 1: fulfill your request. Absolutely none.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So trust your gut on that, right, trust yours.
Speaker 2: You need something, if you want someone, you're paying a doctor,
Speaker 2: ask them for what you need. And if they don't,
Speaker 2: I think Jenny's right, you move on to another doctor.
Speaker 1: I just saw today actually on social my friend and
Speaker 1: fellow Q fifty female doctor have doctor Mary Claire, have
Speaker 1: just posted something today on her site. If you need
Speaker 1: a verified referral for another doctor who specializes in women's healthcare.
Speaker 1: There is a comprehensive list there of physicians, like broken
Speaker 1: down by country, city, state, that kind of thing. It's
Speaker 1: so so helpful, So be sure to check out her website,
Speaker 1: thepauselife dot com and just click on menu and then
Speaker 1: go to pause Care. There you'll see it. I hope
Speaker 1: that helps.
Speaker 2: Love that and actually it's a great segue too. We
Speaker 2: got a ton of menopause questions, right, and you wanted
Speaker 2: to address that, So let me let me tell you
Speaker 2: one here, and then I think, you know, I think
Speaker 2: you're going to expand on it. But this one I
Speaker 2: love too. It's at kl Haydn and it's been this
Speaker 2: person is asking what kind of conversations with your significant
Speaker 2: other regarding your health changes around pre or peri menopause
Speaker 2: have you had?
Speaker 1: These are so good, I know, you know what. I
Speaker 1: love these questions because they're not like, you know, my
Speaker 1: usual questions that I get. You need to have the conversations.
Speaker 2: Do you talk to Dave about that?
Speaker 1: Mmmmmm? Just recently, because honestly, I am still in my
Speaker 1: pery menopausal phase, my peri menopausal era, and at first
Speaker 1: I was like embarrassed by it, and I didn't tell
Speaker 1: him anything, and I didn't talk to my daughters about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to my mom about it. I didn't
Speaker 1: even talk to my friends about it, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: know really what was happening. I kind of did with
Speaker 1: the hot flashes and just the feelings I was having.
Speaker 1: We're all symptoms of perimenopausal things, and so I don't
Speaker 1: really talk to anybody about it, but now after having
Speaker 1: been in it for a while and having learned so
Speaker 1: much about it, because you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you notice, but menopause talk is everywhere now these days,
Speaker 1: like it is a hot topic, and rightly so. This
Speaker 1: is something that we women, lucky, lucky us, yet another
Speaker 1: thing that we go through that men do not. And
Speaker 1: there's been so much research and science and so much
Speaker 1: devoted to men's health, but never any specific to menopause.
Speaker 2: And men don't know about menopause either. That's the other
Speaker 2: thing I don't know. We hardly know about it. Women
Speaker 2: hardly know about it because our moms didn't talk about it, right,
Speaker 2: And I love that it's in the ether now and
Speaker 2: that everyone's talking about it and using their platform to
Speaker 2: talk about it because I feel like we didn't have
Speaker 2: any kind of mentors or models, and so now we
Speaker 2: can model for our kids and nieces and for men.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's what I love about this question,
Speaker 2: that yeah, you did you let Dave in at any
Speaker 2: point on? I mean, you kind of have to. You
Speaker 2: can't hide hopboshes.
Speaker 1: No, you cannot hide them. You get red, you're sweaty,
Speaker 1: you're taking your clothes off for no reason. I mean,
Speaker 1: Dave doesn't mind that he wakes up and I'm naked,
Speaker 1: completely naked. All of my clothes have come off in
Speaker 1: the night at some point yep, and he's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's nothing, Do not touch me. I'm
Speaker 1: sweaty and I don't want you to touch me. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we talk about it now, and it's something that makes
Speaker 1: me feel better. I was just on the phone having
Speaker 1: a telehealth appointment with my doctor, doctor Brush, who has
Speaker 1: helped me so much, and you know, we're starting some
Speaker 1: different therapies and just talking about a little a lot
Speaker 1: of different options, and at the end of the conversation,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I just burst into tears because
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, there's some I feel
Speaker 1: so connected to you right now, and I feel so
Speaker 1: grateful for all of this education that you're giving me
Speaker 1: and this help that you're giving me. Like I just
Speaker 1: she was like, what's okay?
Speaker 2: Cry? Honey's so sweet because it is vulnerable and you're
Speaker 2: really letting them in and if she's helping you, it
Speaker 2: is so vulnerable and you feel so alone. So I
Speaker 2: want your doctor's phone number.
Speaker 1: By the way, doctor Julie Brush. But the exciting thing
Speaker 1: is because we did receive so many questions around menopause
Speaker 1: and the conversation perimenopause, premenopause, postmenopause, all the questions, we
Speaker 1: really want to dive into that, and that is something
Speaker 1: that I'm excited to do. We have, like I said,
Speaker 1: my friend doctor Haer is going to be coming on
Speaker 1: the podcast in the very near future and we're going
Speaker 1: to break it down and have some really great conversation
Speaker 1: about it. So you guys stay tuned for that episode
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: I am super excited about that. Okay, So should we
Speaker 2: move on to the next question. Okay, this is from
Speaker 2: Er Divine or Divine twenty three and the question is
Speaker 2: can you tell us about your meals and your diet?
Speaker 1: First of all, I know who you are, Hi, Okay,
Speaker 1: I love this woman. She's amazing. Can you tell us
Speaker 1: about your meals and your diet? Okay? So I try
Speaker 1: to eat healthy. I mean, of course, like there's something
Speaker 1: that shifts in you when you turn fifty. I think
Speaker 1: your food choices all start to matter. Everything that you
Speaker 1: do for your health starts to matter that much more.
Speaker 1: And so I've always been a really super healthy eater.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say for somebody, I okay, I am
Speaker 1: a vegan to the point of sometimes I might eat
Speaker 1: a little chicken, So that makes me not a vegan.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that makes me. But I don't
Speaker 1: eat dairy. First of all, I personally think that dairy
Speaker 1: is the cause and the root of so many internal
Speaker 1: problems inflammation, gut distress, bad skin as a result of that.
Speaker 1: It's not because I'm lactose intolerant, which I have now
Speaker 1: become lactose intolerant because I decided to stop eating dairy
Speaker 1: for health reasons. Now, my body when I do have
Speaker 1: lactose or milk or dairy or butter or anything like that,
Speaker 1: my body is like no, thank you, like it doesn't
Speaker 1: want anything to do with it, and it's really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: So I don't eat dairy, and I don't eat, you know,
Speaker 1: other animal products. I really try to stay plant based,
Speaker 1: except that one once in a while when I eat
Speaker 1: a little disgusting chicken because I feel like I need
Speaker 1: a little boost of of protein.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about intuitive eating, right, You're talking about
Speaker 2: that you listen to your body. You're saying you stopped
Speaker 2: eating dairy for health reasons, right, So something was going
Speaker 2: on with you those years ago, and you decided that
Speaker 2: dairy was causing that and you stopped eating it and
Speaker 2: you felt better. So really, what you're talking about is
Speaker 2: intuitive eating. Yeah, you listen to your gut literally, right,
Speaker 2: if you find that you have symptoms or you're not
Speaker 2: feeling well, you think about food first and what might
Speaker 2: be crieta.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean think about it because we're putting food
Speaker 1: in our bodies all day long, every single day, and
Speaker 1: it's such a that's what's keeping us alive. So obviously
Speaker 1: what you put in your body is so important. I
Speaker 1: try to buy organic whenever I can, and I have
Speaker 1: some really great recipes that I'm gonna start to share
Speaker 1: on social like breakfast I did. I did two great
Speaker 1: videos for breakfast. One is just this super seed bread
Speaker 1: that I It's gluten free, which is another thing I
Speaker 1: try not to eat is gluten. And I put on
Speaker 1: some vegan ricotta cheese on the top of that and
Speaker 1: some no sugar added jelly and jam whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. Big controversy there, and yeah, that like
Speaker 1: that's a great back for me. I'm a smoothie person. Though,
Speaker 1: also like I try to pack every all of my
Speaker 1: nutrients into one smoothie for the day. Then that way
Speaker 1: I know, before i even go to the gym or
Speaker 1: start my day working, I've got all my greens in,
Speaker 1: I've got my nutrients, my Amino's, all the things, all
Speaker 1: the things, all the things. There's a lot in that smoothie.
Speaker 1: And I'll definitely share that again with you guys as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Aaron, just keep it clean. You are doing
Speaker 1: a great job.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 1: I know that that you strive to be healthier for
Speaker 1: your beautiful daughters, and I think you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2: And I will add that, knowing you all these years, Jenny,
Speaker 2: that you I am always very impressed with your relationship
Speaker 2: with food and how you pay attention and you listen,
Speaker 2: and you you have in your home healthy options for
Speaker 2: you and your girls. Like every time I open your fridge,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, this is such a good fridge.
Speaker 2: They're always healthy options. You've just kind of always done that,
Speaker 2: So I'm just impressed by that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to like keep everything. We bake a lot,
Speaker 1: but we bake vegan. We don't use dairy, we use
Speaker 1: any kind of alternative butter or milk when we bake.
Speaker 1: When we cook, we don't use regular flour. We use
Speaker 1: gluten free flour. Just whenever possible to change a recipe
Speaker 1: into a healthier option, you know, into a healthier version
Speaker 1: of that recipe. That's what we all try to do here, and.
Speaker 2: What works for you may not work for somebody else. Right,
Speaker 2: it's highly feel visualized. So so what you're also saying
Speaker 2: is listen to your body and pay attention to yourself.
Speaker 2: Because at nineteen, I became a pescatarian. Right, fish is
Speaker 2: the only I'm pretty plant based, and then I eat
Speaker 2: fish and that's worked for me for literally since I
Speaker 2: was nineteen. Other proteins don't really work for me. So
Speaker 2: listen to your body and figure out, you know, what
Speaker 2: works for you by how food makes you feel.
Speaker 1: Right, very important? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so let's see. How about there's a few
Speaker 2: on diet, plant based diet, How do you manage you know,
Speaker 2: weight gain and things like that? So I feel like
Speaker 2: you kind of covered that.
Speaker 1: What about this one from Beach Underscore Girl Underscore seventy three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you're taking kind of te Yeah, what
Speaker 3: kind of tips do you have on fitness and mindfulness
Speaker 3: around eating, so we can expand on what we were
Speaker 3: just talking about.
Speaker 1: Well, when it comes to food and fitness, it's really
Speaker 1: important to eat something before you exert yourself. Whether you're
Speaker 1: going to the gym, you're going on a walk, going
Speaker 1: on a hike, whatever, going on a bike ride, whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing. Your body needs that energy. So I always
Speaker 1: try to eat before I go work out, and I
Speaker 1: try to eat protein right after I work out, and
Speaker 1: that's usually in the form of a smoothie. I just
Speaker 1: got this thing with it's like a blender you can
Speaker 1: take with you, you know, one of those, you've seen them,
Speaker 1: And I just put my protein powder in there and
Speaker 1: then add whatever plant based based milk or water whatever
Speaker 1: I can find after the workout, and I drink that
Speaker 1: on the way home. So my body's getting that protein
Speaker 1: that it needs to convert all that I just did
Speaker 1: into muscle. That's really important for lean muscle. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's it. As far as positive mindfulness around eating, that's
Speaker 1: fun because you can play with that one. I find
Speaker 1: that we just devour our food, you know, we like
Speaker 1: eat and we don't even think about what we're doing
Speaker 1: or just like shoveling it in, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's a social thing. Sometimes you're just getting it so
Speaker 1: that you can get your mealing because you're starving or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But sometimes I like to play with
Speaker 1: it and just really think about how many times I'm
Speaker 1: chewing my food, like, think about slowing the whole process down.
Speaker 1: And I find that when I eat slower, chew more,
Speaker 1: my body is much happier when it comes to like digestion,
Speaker 1: and I enjoy the meal more. You know, it's about
Speaker 1: that mindfulness when you are eating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and bringing gratitude into eating right.
Speaker 1: Right, that's fun too.
Speaker 2: You think about who you're with, if you're out to dinner,
Speaker 2: how lucky you are to be out to dinner, and
Speaker 2: the gratitude of sharing a meal with people you love
Speaker 2: right or at home with your family, rather than just
Speaker 2: shoveling the food, Like, actually, stop, look around, think about
Speaker 2: I am so lucky right now to be enjoying a
Speaker 2: meal with my family, and I'm going to slow down
Speaker 2: and I'm going to think about this food and either
Speaker 2: where it came from or who prepared it. Right, So
Speaker 2: bringing gratitude into it is just sort of a natural
Speaker 2: mindfulness around eating.
Speaker 1: I love that And yeah, that slows you right down
Speaker 1: to iah that that's.
Speaker 2: A gay poet. Yay, let's see. How about Oh I
Speaker 2: like this one too. Okay, this is from at Leanna Swanson.
Speaker 2: What was the definitive moment for you to really dial
Speaker 2: in your nutrition and exercise or do you have one?
Speaker 1: Oh, Leana, I've had several one. You're as old as me.
Speaker 1: You've reinvented yourself a few times, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean like, I have
Speaker 1: gone through ups and downs with my diet, with my body,
Speaker 1: my body image, you know, there have been It's like
Speaker 1: a roller It has been like a roller coaster for me,
Speaker 1: especially being you know, in the spotlight sometimes and having
Speaker 1: to look a certain way and having people really critique
Speaker 1: things that they shouldn't be critiquing. So I've had to
Speaker 1: really have those come to Jesus moments a few times
Speaker 1: where I don't I notice, I don't feel good. I
Speaker 1: feel like I don't look my best. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: bogged down or puffy and all the you know, just
Speaker 1: that have that sort of fog. And I like being clear.
Speaker 1: I like feeling good. So when I have in the
Speaker 1: past gotten into into those unhealthy grooves where it's just
Speaker 1: about convenience and or eating my feelings away because I've
Speaker 1: been known to do that. Who hasn't. Those are the
Speaker 1: times when you're like, hmmm, I need to get a
Speaker 1: handle on this. I need to really dial this in again,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't have to be you know, a finite.
Speaker 1: It's your Every day you wake up is a new
Speaker 1: day to reset everything basically how you want to feel,
Speaker 1: how you want to see yourself, how you want to
Speaker 1: see others. So a great way for me to do
Speaker 1: that is in the mornings to just tell myself today
Speaker 1: is going to be a great day, and tell myself
Speaker 1: that I love myself and I'm going to take great
Speaker 1: care of you today.
Speaker 2: I love that. And you're also talking about awareness. You're
Speaker 2: talking about having awareness, and even if you're sort of
Speaker 2: if you kind of go under a little bit and
Speaker 2: you're doing some emotional eating, or you can even choose it.
Speaker 2: You can say I am incredibly stressed out right now.
Speaker 2: This is all sad. Yeah, I'm sad right now. I'm
Speaker 2: going to eat something for comfort. But I love the
Speaker 2: idea of owning it and even saying it out loud.
Speaker 2: You know, like I'm kind of eating my anxiety right.
Speaker 2: I'm anxious right now, so I'm going to eat anxiously.
Speaker 2: And then you just have awareness of like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: went through a three day period of that or a
Speaker 2: week of that, and now I recognize and understand that
Speaker 2: that can't sustain, right, That's not sustainable or tenable to
Speaker 2: do that for week after week after week because there
Speaker 2: are consequences. You feel like crap, you gain weight, you
Speaker 2: you know, there's all kinds of health consequences to that.
Speaker 2: So basically what you're saying is like I have enough
Speaker 2: awareness now and mindfulness that I will check in with
Speaker 2: myself and even if you are emotionally eating or something,
Speaker 2: you'll say like, okay, what's going on right? That's again
Speaker 2: listening to your gut. What am I going through right now?
Speaker 2: What am I feeling? And how can I address these
Speaker 2: and not just eat to cover it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then going you know, when you do decide
Speaker 1: that you're going to make a change, Like recently, I
Speaker 1: decided to stop eating sugar, like just cold turkey, and
Speaker 1: I know I could. I knew I could do it
Speaker 1: because I've done it once before, like in my forties,
Speaker 1: So I decided to do that again.
Speaker 2: And y'all, Jenny loves her sugar. Just say, God, you
Speaker 2: when I met you, you were a candy girl. Candy
Speaker 2: you loved the Remember the orange slices.
Speaker 1: The sugariest thing in the world, those orange slices with
Speaker 1: the sugar on them.
Speaker 2: Oh my, I would it totally put me out when
Speaker 2: I met you. Those are the kinds of things that
Speaker 2: you ate, like.
Speaker 1: Here's a healthy snack.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also, just so you guys know, Jenny loves sugars.
Speaker 2: It love loves sweet treats. And you have figured out
Speaker 2: how to have those things in a in a you know,
Speaker 2: fruit forward way or whatever. But go ahead, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 1: No, there's so many ways you can change regular cane,
Speaker 1: you know, processed sugar into You can use coconut sugar,
Speaker 1: or you can use maple syrup. You can use honey,
Speaker 1: you can use stevia, you can use so many things. Now,
Speaker 1: monk fruit great. When I use that to bake with.
Speaker 1: It's a great sugar substitute. And you don't miss it.
Speaker 1: Like once you cut yourself off of sugar, you're gonna
Speaker 1: feel so good in like a week. Give it a
Speaker 1: week and it's a drug. It's a drug. You have
Speaker 1: to like come off of it, you have to detox.
Speaker 1: It's like the I feel about sugar. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like the most addictive legal drug. Like it makes
Speaker 1: no sense to me because it's as addictive as heroin
Speaker 1: in my opinion to me for sure, Like.
Speaker 2: There are some statistics out there that compare it to
Speaker 2: the addictive strength of heroin.
Speaker 1: That is, it's absolutely true for me, definitely true. And also,
Speaker 1: you know, coffee is another one caffeine that's also I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a legal drug that people use, but it's
Speaker 1: not a drug. It's a bean. It's not really it's
Speaker 1: not really drug.
Speaker 2: But there are benefits to cappinge too. Like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go to I am gonna I like my coffee and
Speaker 2: there are there are benefits to it.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what Dave says to all.
Speaker 2: Right, I feel like we're we are getting on.
Speaker 1: I could talk a long time about health and fitness
Speaker 1: and diet. Let's do another episode.
Speaker 2: On that one. Okay, Let's see what else do we
Speaker 2: have here. This one's good and it's really in line
Speaker 2: with the I Choose Me, you know theme at Wei
Speaker 2: Honus cactus.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, what did you just say at.
Speaker 2: We honest underscore cactus?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, wow, I love this.
Speaker 2: How important is it to take me time? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's this whole podcast is about. I choose me. It's
Speaker 1: so important for you to have I choose me time.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are times in my life when I
Speaker 1: haven't prioritized my me time and I get really run
Speaker 1: down and like depleted, right, like I don't have any
Speaker 1: anything to give at the end of the day. But
Speaker 1: when I find that when I take thirty minutes to
Speaker 1: take a bath or read or journal or just literally sit.
Speaker 1: I know I got this from you a little tip
Speaker 1: sit in my bedroom and look out the window.
Speaker 2: I love that one.
Speaker 1: Or even go outside and look out the window, or
Speaker 1: there won't be a window when you're outside, just go
Speaker 1: outside and just stare at like the beauty all around you,
Speaker 1: the nature.
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't have to be action oriented, it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be active. It can be right like when
Speaker 2: you were when you would go golf by yourself, that
Speaker 2: was a me time. It was you, you know, get
Speaker 2: your head clear, and it was active, you know. But
Speaker 2: I I also am a firm believer of literally lying
Speaker 2: on the grass and staring at the sky, lying in
Speaker 2: your bed and staring out the window. You're lucky enough
Speaker 2: to have a decent or nice view and just let
Speaker 2: your thoughts relax, let them flow in a way that
Speaker 2: allows you to just check in, because I think in
Speaker 2: those moments, in the quiet moments, your best information comes through.
Speaker 2: And if we don't do that, if you just go
Speaker 2: through a day and you haven't stopped, if you haven't
Speaker 2: taken even five minutes. I'm a big proponent of the
Speaker 2: five minute guided meditation, but if you don't stop and
Speaker 2: take those moments, you're missing so much information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like your intuition. Yes, you start to receive the messages, yes,
Speaker 1: in a different way when you have that clarity in
Speaker 1: that space.
Speaker 2: And I think people I think people are afraid of that.
Speaker 2: I think people go, go, go and are afraid to stop.
Speaker 2: In fact, you use to be Yeah, you wouldn't even
Speaker 2: get I'm gonna tell on you. You wouldn't even get
Speaker 2: a massage fifteen years ago, ten years ago because it
Speaker 2: was too slow and you were afraid of the kind
Speaker 2: of that quiet time.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to remember what was going on in
Speaker 1: this No, yeah, no, I need to block. I needed
Speaker 1: to block that all out.
Speaker 2: You were like, that's a bad neighborhood and I'm not
Speaker 2: going there, right.
Speaker 1: I just kept busy, busy, busy, busy all the time.
Speaker 1: And I can still slip into that mode really easily
Speaker 1: because I love to do do do doo doo all
Speaker 1: day long.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you're right, when you don't, when you
Speaker 1: don't stop to just take a moment for silence, take
Speaker 1: a moment for your brain, just have a rest.
Speaker 2: You're not really missing. Yeah, I will say. One of
Speaker 2: the good things that came out of your painful divorce,
Speaker 2: and one of the good things that came out of
Speaker 2: you being alone and on your own is you. And
Speaker 2: you accepted the challenge, right, you got quiet, and I remember,
Speaker 2: I remember where you got quiet, And you even went
Speaker 2: on a couple of retreats where you by yourself, where
Speaker 2: you got quiet, which I hope you'll share at some
Speaker 2: point with everybody. And you started to trust it, you
Speaker 2: started to understand the value of it, and you you
Speaker 2: started to become even more you than you were.
Speaker 1: Just more settled.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things ways to have me time.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if this qualifies but I
Speaker 1: do a lot of driving every day. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but now my kids are a little older,
Speaker 1: I don't have to drive quite as much. But whenever
Speaker 1: I drive, I like to just have silence for a
Speaker 1: while and turn off the radio and just be by
Speaker 1: myself in the car. That's my That's some really good
Speaker 1: me time.
Speaker 2: I think it totally qualifies. If you're getting that thing
Speaker 2: we're talking about, if you're getting that tuning in, checking in,
Speaker 2: listening to yourself, calming down right, then it's to me time.
Speaker 2: It qualifies, all right. Shall we move on to another question?
Speaker 2: M okay, I love this one from at Lucy in
Speaker 2: Flowers three. What are some of your go to things
Speaker 2: you do if you're feeling blue or listless? How do
Speaker 2: you lift yourself up?
Speaker 1: Oh, Lucy, we talked about being blue.
Speaker 2: Remember, yeah, we both have it. We both have rounds
Speaker 2: of feeling blue.
Speaker 1: For me and I know you will agree with this.
Speaker 1: It's about acknowledging it, noticing that you're feeling blue, and
Speaker 1: then telling myself, oh, okay, that's happening. I'm feeling blue,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little down, I'm feeling depressed. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: all right, And I allow myself to be in that space.
Speaker 1: And I probably learned that from you because you always
Speaker 1: encourage that. Because you and I we've talked about it.
Speaker 1: We've gone through life with this low grade depression, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it'sol a lot worse. I think, you know, my
Speaker 1: depression comes and goes like kind of like a roller coaster,
Speaker 1: like I will be having the greatest time and then
Speaker 1: for no reason, my vibe will just dip and I'll
Speaker 1: get blue. And I used to be really scared of
Speaker 1: it and think like, oh, no, it's wrong with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wanted to push it away, you didn't want it.
Speaker 1: Well, I need medicine, I need something to stop this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But now I just kind of ride it out and
Speaker 1: love myself just a little bit more. And another thing
Speaker 1: that's really helped me is telling like whoever I'm living with,
Speaker 1: my partner or my kids if you know they're older now,
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, I'm just feeling kind of down today.
Speaker 1: It's got nothing to do with you. But just I
Speaker 1: wanted you to know that so that the people around
Speaker 1: you don't take it personally, because I often found, like
Speaker 1: with when you're in a depressed state, my family always
Speaker 1: feels it and they want to fix it and they
Speaker 1: worry about me, and I just kind of had to
Speaker 1: learn to tell them like, it's okay, I'll be fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is momentary, This is not forever.
Speaker 2: That's so smart and they know that now right when
Speaker 2: you tell them, they know, oh okay, just let her be.
Speaker 2: She gets herself out of it. It's it's temporary. And
Speaker 2: you're right that I do agree with everything you said.
Speaker 2: It is a I think it's a lean in kind
Speaker 2: of a thing, right right. A lot of our inner turmoil,
Speaker 2: a lot of our conflict that we feel inside of
Speaker 2: us comes from fighting against something. Right, So lead in,
Speaker 2: lead into whatever it is. If it's if you're feeling blue, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, there are so many reasons why we might
Speaker 2: be feeling blue. Everything we're talking about today could be nutrition,
Speaker 2: it could be hormones, it could be situationally, and if
Speaker 2: you don't, if you fight it, that's where the conflict lies.
Speaker 2: But if you just go, Okay, it's one of those days,
Speaker 2: and that's okay. Everybody has them. I love myself. I'm
Speaker 2: going to be extra gentle on myself. I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask the people around me to just know it and
Speaker 2: be gentle on me, not take it personally, Like you said,
Speaker 2: letting people in, you know, and I love. I remember
Speaker 2: another I don't know if I was on the episode,
Speaker 2: but you talked about how Dave knows that you need
Speaker 2: a hug and it can be so soothing and calming.
Speaker 2: Just to say I'm kind of struggling today, I'm feeling
Speaker 2: I say to my partner, I'm feeling blue today, and
Speaker 2: she knows immediately she just goes, Okay, Annie, I got you.
Speaker 2: She doesn't know how to do anything, you know, let
Speaker 2: me know what you need and I will.
Speaker 1: I love that are what are like some of your
Speaker 1: go to things though, specifically that we can do to
Speaker 1: lift us up. We talked about like going outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I nature, Yeah, definitely, taking
Speaker 2: walks always sort of just uplifts right being outside, being
Speaker 2: in nature.
Speaker 1: You told me last time to go hug a tree.
Speaker 2: Now I will say I've been to discancel gardens a
Speaker 2: couple of times and you might have seen me hugging
Speaker 2: a tree. That was me. Yeah, you know. And but
Speaker 2: the other thing is, and I think I said at
Speaker 2: last time, like one of my favorite things is to
Speaker 2: check out to television. If I don't want to be
Speaker 2: in my head. And you know, it's usually a comedy,
Speaker 2: like I'll pop on a Will and Grace or something
Speaker 2: and it just it just makes me feel happy. What
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 1: I love to like be with an animal, like I
Speaker 1: have dogs. If I just look into my dog's eyes
Speaker 1: and you know, just spend time with my dogs or
Speaker 1: Oh the best is if you have access or can
Speaker 1: find a horse, go hug a horse. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: they absorb your feelings and it's the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think all animals
Speaker 2: are emotional support animals. Do you know what's so funny
Speaker 2: is I'm fully having a hot flash right now that
Speaker 2: we're talking about women of a certain age women's health. Yeah,
Speaker 2: women's health flash, menopause hot flashes. I remember one time
Speaker 2: you and I were I had just had my hip surgery,
Speaker 2: which I know you're going to talk someday about yours,
Speaker 2: but you came to visit me and you brought me
Speaker 2: like I think we had like a like a crafts project.
Speaker 2: When we were sitting on the couch crocheting like a
Speaker 2: couple of ladies of a certain age, and we both
Speaker 2: were hot flashing and crocheting. Oh my god, and I
Speaker 2: thought I felt so happy, like Jenny and I are
Speaker 2: growing old together. It made me so happy, like we've
Speaker 2: met in our twenties. There's something I know, but there's
Speaker 2: something there's something so beautiful about that to me. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go to another one. Oh God, totally flogging up.
Speaker 1: Take it off, take it off?
Speaker 2: Oh I can't. Okay, Oh, here's here's one that fits
Speaker 2: kind of like the same theme. So this is at
Speaker 2: free Rosemead kri I Rosemead.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: How do you find ways to heal emotionally? So similar mid.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 1: I think for me it has been that going back
Speaker 1: to just turning in, you know, giving myself that chance
Speaker 1: to get quiet and just be with myself. That's so
Speaker 1: healing for me.
Speaker 2: So again, it's not avoiding it, it's leaning into it
Speaker 2: and not being afraid of it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean I have done, you know, all
Speaker 1: kinds of different therapies and different modalities for well being
Speaker 1: and mental health and even physical health. Like I love
Speaker 1: learning and growing in experiencing all different things. Some of
Speaker 1: the best me time that I've ever had have been
Speaker 1: when I did go I took a trip by myself
Speaker 1: once and that was just like the most healing experience
Speaker 1: that I ever had. Probably I went to sen what
Speaker 1: is it? How do you say this, San Miguel de
Speaker 1: yayindo de ya yenday think yeah, yenda. Anyway, I went
Speaker 1: there and it's just such a spiritual, like very chill place,
Speaker 1: and I just walked around on the streets by myself,
Speaker 1: you know, in a safe neighborhood of course, and I
Speaker 1: just had that me time, you know, that just solo
Speaker 1: time to be quiet and allow myself to be whatever
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: And that takes such courage. I mean, especially when you're
Speaker 2: kind of you know, you've got a family, you've got kids,
Speaker 2: you've got a job.
Speaker 1: You're very hard to carve out that time, carve it out.
Speaker 2: But also, and maybe this is just me, but I
Speaker 2: feel I would feel scared going by myself. And yet
Speaker 2: the value again that comes from that alone time. I
Speaker 2: just I commend you for the courage of that too.
Speaker 2: And also being a known person in the world, it
Speaker 2: just seems like that that was so that was big. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, when you got to take care of yourself,
Speaker 1: nothing matters. You just you'll know, you know, when you
Speaker 1: need to get away and have that time with yourself
Speaker 1: and do it well, need it happen.
Speaker 2: Will you share a little bit about the modalities that
Speaker 2: you have used, like therapy and other things.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, I just found my journal from
Speaker 1: my moon what was it, Moonview moon?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Moonview Sanctuary.
Speaker 1: Moonview Sanctuary experience that you MA made me go to
Speaker 1: literally forced me to go there maybe during a very
Speaker 1: dark time, and I spent some some really intense time
Speaker 1: there for a couple of weeks. And I just found
Speaker 1: my journal that talks about all the different people that
Speaker 1: I met with every day I was there at this
Speaker 1: place from like nine to five.
Speaker 2: All the different healers, right, they had to be a modality.
Speaker 2: Do you remember any of them?
Speaker 1: No, I'd have to I have to look at my journal. Well,
Speaker 1: there was talk therapy, talk therapy. There was like, so
Speaker 1: what's the SOMA so mathematic? There was e m d
Speaker 1: R EMDR yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: People can look that up. That's a you know.
Speaker 1: But there was also I love EMDR. We should talk
Speaker 1: about that sometimes. Yeah, MDR is great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have an EMDR therapist on to talk about the
Speaker 2: benefits of it, because it is like fast tracking talk therapy.
Speaker 2: It's really cool. But you have been to therapy. You've
Speaker 2: been in and out of therapy for how many years?
Speaker 1: One hundred.
Speaker 2: And you are an advocate for it if you can,
Speaker 2: and you can always. I know it can be expensive, yep.
Speaker 2: But just like we, you know, we got we put
Speaker 2: money into our physical health, we have to put money
Speaker 2: into our mental health. And there are a lot of
Speaker 2: low fee and no fee clinics in every city, so
Speaker 2: you can always look at you can google whatever city
Speaker 2: you're in, whatever z it code you're in, you can
Speaker 2: google low fee and no fee therapy clinic or low
Speaker 2: fee mental health and you should be able to find, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, in your area, some kind of a clinic
Speaker 2: that does either. It could be zero, it could be
Speaker 2: ten dollars, twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I am googling right now because therapy is expensive.
Speaker 2: It is. It's expensive, and you know, if you're lucky
Speaker 2: enough to have health insurance that can help with.
Speaker 1: It but also cover all though health insurance doesn't do
Speaker 1: what it should for our mental health for sure. For sure.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to at Joanna Underscore, Lorraine Underscore, Leslie,
Speaker 1: who asked about healthy eating and movement tips for a
Speaker 1: healthy heart. She says that she had a heart attack
Speaker 1: at forty six, and that is young for you. But
Speaker 1: there's so much I want to talk about around heart
Speaker 1: health and how to help ourselves, how to know our
Speaker 1: risk factors, what to ask a doctor for when you
Speaker 1: go see a cardiologist. There's so much I want to
Speaker 1: talk about. But I want to bring in a specialist,
Speaker 1: a friend of mine from the American Heart Association. So
Speaker 1: we are going to do that, do that question right
Speaker 1: by doing it an in depth dive into heart health.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned, Joanna, You're going to like that.
Speaker 2: So it's so important for women especially, and you have
Speaker 2: been involved and active with the American Heart Association for
Speaker 2: twenty plus years. Yeah, and it's different for men and
Speaker 2: women heart. So I'm really glad you're going to cover that.
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad she wrote that question. I'm glad
Speaker 2: she's still around and thinking about how to stay healthy
Speaker 2: me too.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Adele for helping me get into these questions.
Speaker 2: You are so welcome.
Speaker 1: I hope our listeners loved it.
Speaker 2: It was super fun. I love I loved it, and
Speaker 2: I love always talking with you about these things. And
Speaker 2: thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You're an expert well, and so many things.
Speaker 2: On my life and a little bit on your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're my go to so and so. Being able
Speaker 1: to share you and your knowledge with everyone that's listening
Speaker 1: to this is truly a gift. And I think like,
Speaker 1: because I've been so fortunate to have you in my
Speaker 1: life and all of your knowledge and just your care,
Speaker 1: I feel so blessed that I'm able to now share
Speaker 1: that with other people. So thank you for allowing me
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: That my pleasure. I love you, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1: Bike, I love Q and A's and hearing from all
Speaker 1: of you, We're gonna have to do more of that
Speaker 1: in the future. And again, thank you Adele for joining me.
Speaker 1: I want to leave you guys with this. We have
Speaker 1: been working on looking in the mirror and giving ourselves
Speaker 1: some much needed love. I've heard from some of you
Speaker 1: that you've been doing this and feeling the positive effects,
Speaker 1: and I'm so so happy about that. I want you
Speaker 1: to keep doing that, keep that up, keep doing that
Speaker 1: every day. I promise you it will make you feel better.
Speaker 1: But I want us to build on this. Since this
Speaker 1: week was about questions, I want you to ask yourself
Speaker 1: a question. Ask yourself, what is it that I love
Speaker 1: about me? Just think of one thing. I love that
Speaker 1: I am kind, I love that I am a good listener.
Speaker 1: I love my beautiful feet. I don't care whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have an answer, that's okay. Just
Speaker 1: ask the question and wait for the answer. It will
Speaker 1: come if you just get quiet, ask the question and listen.
Speaker 1: I know that I love that you chose to spend
Speaker 1: time with me today. I am so grateful for you.
Speaker 1: I will be here next week, and I hope you
Speaker 1: will too.