1 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Lake Kick Is Live. It is 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Sunday night, November fifteenth, the year of our lower twenty twenty. 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Barely have our notes in order because things have shifted 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: around a lot in the last hour. We are, of 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: course going to lead with the news out of Columbia 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina will must champ out as game Cock's head coach. 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: And we've got obviously plenty to talk about. There also 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: maybe some other rumors about coaches who could be on 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: a hot seat that I would give you the old 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: fashion not so fast friend on. We're going to talk 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: about Michigan getting completely and totally body bagged by Wisconsin 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: and potentially what could happen in the future there. We've 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: also got a whole lot to talk about from what 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: they promised you was going to be a very slow 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: week Those slow weekends, by the way, just a little 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: word to the wise. Slow weekends in sports, college football 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: in particular, never up to their building. Something crazy is 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: always going to happen. In case in point what we're 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: about to talk about in about forty five seconds. So 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: we got Florida to talk about. We got Notre Dame. 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Miami had a really good win yesterday Oregon probably had 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: the most significant off the radar when of any team. 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I think that matters in the national landscape. Yesterday, We've 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: got two best bets coming on the show tonight. And 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I want to also tell you those of you who 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: have been emailing me all day. So what I did 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: was I kind of hit pause on booking the Zoom consultations. 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: We've been doing this for a couple of weeks now, 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: I can't remember how many I've lost count. Now I've 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: had a lot of consultations with you guys who want 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: to potentially get in sports media, start your on YouTube channel, 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: whatever the case was. Well, weve gotten kind of backlogged. 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: So I said, all right, because I'm having to tell 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: people hit me back later in the week, So I 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: hit pause. About Thursday, I hit pause, and we've cleared 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: the queue. So starting right this second benefit of seeing 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: the live show, email me Josh paid seven zero six 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or drop in the DMS on 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Twitter at late kick Josh. The Q is clear, first come, 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: first serve hop in. So with that in mind, let us, 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: oh boy, where else do we start? Let us just 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: jump into this and we're gonna go wherever the show 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: takes us tonight. Settle in, buckle up. There's a lot 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: going on news out of Columbia, South Carolina. Just in 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: the last hour or so as we were getting ready 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: to do the show. We had gotten heads up Colin 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: and I earlier in the day. This was probably coming 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: smoke all morning following South Carolina's fifty nine to forty 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: two loss to Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss And here 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: we go. Will mus Champ is out as head coach 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: at South Carolina, John Whittell, Jac Sherbert, all the guys 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: over at the Big Spur have had you up to date. 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: If you remember over there every second of this whole deal. 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: This hole, it seems like a soap opera over the 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, because someone knows something here and 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: someone knows something there. Well, there's no more guesses, there's 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: no more whispers. So those guys have had you up 58 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: to date to this point. I cannot stress enough. If 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you are a South Carolina Gamecocks fan, or if you're 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: just kind of morbidly curious about this thing from the outside, 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: make sure you check out the Big Spur dot com. 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: They will have you fully informed over there the minute 63 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: something tangible and credible and I can't stress those words enough. 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Tangible and credible happens. So here's the details that you 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: need to know. Mike Bobo is going to be the 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: interim head coach here for Carolina. I think they played 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: Missouri Saturday, so we'll deal with that as it comes. 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: Will Muschamp twenty eight and thirty overall, seventeen and twenty 69 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: two record overall in SEC play over the course of 70 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: five seasons. And you could really summarize this a whole 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Why did it happen? Was it overdue? 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: Should they have waited? What is the one question we've 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: asked about Carolina. I don't know how many times I've 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: asked it at this point, but it was what's the 75 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: identity of the program? Never good to be asking five 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: years in and it was supposed to be defense if 77 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: nothing else. You certainly wanted to put the foot on 78 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the gas a little harder offensively, but at least, you know, 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: will Musjet defense, at least you're going to be known 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: for that, right No, man, Right now, as we sit 81 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty, they are twelfth out of fourteen 82 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: teams in the SEC in total defense. So yes, it 83 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: was probably time to make a change. Now, remember a 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: couple of keys, a couple of factors to keep in 85 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: mind here, there's no more speculation about whether he will 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: or won't be gone. Must champs out. So now, what 87 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: is South Carolina? What has Ray Tanner done over there? 88 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: What are the powers that be and the brokers behind 89 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: the scenes? What if they put into motion for Carolina? 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Remember towards the beginning of the 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: year when there were a lot of folks out there 92 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: who were of the opinion that there's no way anyone 93 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: will ever be fired in a COVID year whatever that is. 94 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: We've only had one of them in a COVID year. 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: No one will be fired. And I told you, I 96 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: think it's true for most people. But someone's going to 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: go rogue. Some program's gonna go rogue. And here's what 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the factors have to be for a program to go rogue, 99 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: And by rogue, I mean fire their head coach when 100 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: everyone else is standing pat what's going to have to 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: happen is exactly what happened here. Now, First, the benefit 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: of doing this is obvious. If you're Carolina and you're 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: not exactly a Tier one program, you kind of bump 104 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: yourself right to the front of a line you're normally 105 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: never at the front of when it comes to maybe 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: feeling out potential suitors because you normally have to wait 107 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: behind someone like USC or someone like Texas. Well, doesn't 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: look like that's going to be the case this time around, 109 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: so maybe you get access to candidates that you would 110 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: have access to. But here's what's important to note. It's 111 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: important to note they didn't fully go rogue. It's not 112 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: like this stuff was decided in a knee jerk fashion. 113 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: It's very important. I can't overstate this enough. There were 114 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: people who matter behind the scenes at Carolina, and I 115 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: mean in terms of their wallet. There were people who 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: matter who wanted this done before this year. Okay, so 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: there were a lot of folks who entered twenty twenty 118 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: COVID or not who were already resigned to the idea 119 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: that Muschamp is not the long term answer here. So 120 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: that was already the default setting. They didn't come into 121 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: twenty twenty saying that's our guy and then watch a 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: couple of losses pile up and again a COVID year 123 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden say, oh, never mind, forget him. 124 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: That's not the way this happened. I don't care what 125 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: it appears to be on the outside. Folks in and 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: around Carolina no different. So this is not a knee 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: jerk reaction. So if that's how they want to run 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: the program there, I'm fine. I have no problem with that. 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: I would have a problem if you were fully backing 130 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: him and then you let this particular set of circumstances 131 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: completely one hundred and eighty degrees change your opinion. Can't 132 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: stress it enough. That's not what happened here. So if 133 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it's not a knee jerk reaction and folks got tired 134 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: of him selling, it's time for us to rebuild in 135 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: year five. You can't sell a rebuild in year five. 136 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Month five maybe, yeah, but not year five. Same question, 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: as always is what we arrive back at. If you've 138 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: watched Lake Kick for any amount of time, you know 139 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: I just asked the same old question anytime you want 140 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: to talk hot seed. Anytime. People at Carolina up to 141 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: and including this point had said mush Champ's not the 142 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: guy for us. I said, okay, you're yelling at me. 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I take it down about three notches. It's not my program, 144 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: it's your program. Here's all I would want to know. 145 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: If I were a Carolina fan right now, Here's all 146 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I would want to know. Do we have a definitively 147 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: better option ready to take this job? You can't have 148 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: one just as good. You can't even have one a 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: little bit better because of what it takes to actually 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: buy a staff out and then potentially buy another staff 151 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: out and then potentially bring them in. They got to 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: be definitively better to justify all that. Who is it 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: out there who I'm not making the higher So this 154 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: is rhetorical. I'm asking you guys, and I'm asking Ray Tanner, 155 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily know that he's going to return 156 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: my text to day or answer on the air. But 157 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: who is it who's definitively better? Sounds like the right 158 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: wallets are open. I will say that I don't think 159 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: this move would have been made if there weren't assurances 160 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: from the right people, you know, Colin. I one day 161 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: hope to be in a position where people out there 162 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: are making how how many seven, eight, eight figure moves 163 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: and they need to come to me and say, Josh, 164 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: we okay to make this eight figure move and it 165 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: takes my green check mark. I hope to one day 166 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: be in that position. But what should they be looking for? 167 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: Because a lot of you as soon as I went 168 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: on the big spur today and I said, hey, we're 169 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: going to be talking about this at the top of 170 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the hour, and I asked, in fact, I asked you, guys, hey, 171 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: what are three words? Three words are less that you 172 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: could use to describe how you feel right now? And 173 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys responded well, basically in predictive manner, 174 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of you were responding to varying degrees 175 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: that you were relieved and now you want to know 176 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: what's next, and so what should they look for? You 177 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: can put your hot board of candidates out there. I'm 178 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: sure they're already doing that all over the place. I 179 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: would want an offensive mind. I would want a relentless 180 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: recruiter and someone who knows the territory, or if not, 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: someone who is already familiar with the territory. Someone who 182 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: understands how to fill the staff full of guys who 183 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: are total warriors in the Southeastern region. And see, I 184 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: would really love to have the uh oh factor. Here's 185 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: what the factor is. It's not internal. The ut factor 186 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: is when you announce your head coach, does it make 187 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: the biggest opposition you have in your division? Think? Uh oh? 188 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: You know most recently who did that? You should know 189 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: you just played them twenty four hours ago when Old 190 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: Miss hired Lane Kiffin. No one predicted Old Miss to 191 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: win a national title. But you want to know what 192 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: they did in Auburn and Baton Rouge and Tuscalusa College 193 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: Station Starkville. You want to know what they did. They said, 194 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: uh oh at the very least Ole Miss is higher 195 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: got an uh oh collectively out of the SEC West 196 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: because nobody wants to play Lane Kiffin. You guys found 197 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: out why the hard way last night. And so how 198 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: does South Carolina go about finding their own? Oh Canada? 199 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: Is it Billy Napier? Is it? Probably a lot of 200 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: hurdles to clear here, But would it be Hugh Freeze? 201 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: Is it someone maybe a little bit off the radar 202 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: that used to be a big name that's kind of 203 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: moved to the background in the college football ether that 204 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: is ready to re emerge. You may think I'm talking 205 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: about Bob Stoops and I'm not. But the point being, 206 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: regardless of who it is, can you fill those three 207 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: factors for me, Can you fill those three compartments? All 208 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: I want is an offensive mine. I want someone who 209 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: is a relentless recruiter, and I just want to make 210 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart or Dan Mullen or Jeremy Prewitt say, uh oh, 211 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: that's where we stand at South Carolina, and I'm sure 212 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot more will be coming out in the coming days. Now, 213 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: South Carolina, like we just said, made a move tonight 214 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: and it stemmed, well, not totally, but largely from what 215 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: was inexcusable last night on the field. So you want 216 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: to talk about something that was really inexcusable, how about 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: Wisconsin splattering Michigan all over Ann Arbor last night forty 218 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. And let me stress the game was 219 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: not even that close. Forty nine to eleven is just 220 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: the merciful final score on the board there. Sometimes I've 221 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: let you guys behind the curtain a fair amount from 222 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: my youth, and I've talked about the fact that one 223 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: of my hobbies, to varying degrees at various portions of 224 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: my life, has been train hopping. So sometimes you'll find 225 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: out if you're train hopping back in the day. Of course, 226 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: a long long time ago. You find out that sometimes 227 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: you got to run. Sometimes you got to hide really quick, 228 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes with the way that rail lines are kind 229 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: of dug into the earth, you got to climb big 230 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: hills to get yourself out of view. And sometimes you 231 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: have to climb hills of ballast. And that's the rocks 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: that are on the side of railroads. And it's hard 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: to a hill of ballast. And if it starts to 234 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: give way, you don't just stop, Okay, you got you 235 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta roll, roll, roll, and then you gotta 236 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: dig your foot into the ground. Eventually you can stop 237 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: yourself from sliding down the hill. But it's not just 238 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: one movement, and so it can be a pain. But 239 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing. You can stop yourself from sliding down 240 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: a hill of ballast. You just gotta find a way 241 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: to dig your foot in the ground. I've never been skydiving, 242 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: but I would imagine if you're free falling, short of 243 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: pulling the parachute, maybe you don't have one. Short of 244 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: being able to pull a parachute, it's got to be 245 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot harder to slow yourself down when you're just 246 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: free falling. That is what Michigan Football feels like right now, 247 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: and if you didn't feel it before last night, you 248 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: certainly feel it now. Many padlock stats in this game, 249 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: many of them outside of just the final score. There 250 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty one to forty seven. That is 251 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: the total rushing yardage. I struggled to even open my 252 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: mouth fully, as you could hear there even on the podcast, 253 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: to utter that sentence, three forty one to forty seven. 254 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: That's how badly Michigan was out rushed. But hey, they 255 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: had better rushing totals than they did against Indiana a 256 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: week prior. Wisconsin had what I can only describe as 257 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: a padlock play in this game. This wasn't on CBS, 258 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: so Colin and I couldn't take the footage. Well, we 259 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: couldn't take the footage to monetize this show still, But 260 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: if you were watching this game, think about when it 261 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: was twenty one to nothing and Wisconsin's driving again, and 262 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: you're already kind of in stun disbelief, and the crowd 263 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: that would have been in the Big House was a 264 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: stun disbelief at home, and it's about ten yards to 265 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: go to the end zone and Wisconsin just snowplows Michigan 266 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: out of the way. It looked like what it would 267 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: look like if you've ever been at the park and 268 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: you've had a lot of really mouthy dudes who play 269 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: seven on seven and their mouthy because they know no 270 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: one can hit them. If you were to take eleven 271 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: of those guys and put them on a football field 272 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: simultaneously and then run a play at them, it would 273 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: look a lot like what Michigan looked like last night 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: trying to keep Wisconsin out of the end zone. Brutal. Brutal. 275 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Scholarship football players at University of Michigan, brutal. That was 276 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: the padlock play. If I could just show you that play, 277 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you don't need to know the score or anything else. 278 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: You would have known everything you need to know about 279 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: this game. Wisconsin had five different ball carriers with at 280 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: least thirty yards rushing last night. That was the game. 281 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a whole lot to talk about 282 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: with the game, Like, hats off to Wisconsin. This is 283 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: certainly a legitimate contender in the Big Ten, and we 284 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: will have a lot more time to talk about Wisconsin. 285 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: They're going to play Northwestern Saturday, and the Badger's open 286 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: as a seven point favorite, but As for Jim Harbaugh, 287 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of you were all over the page, 288 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: all in the Twitter, DMS email last night, and a 289 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: lot of Michigan folks view it as a foregone conclusion 290 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: that Jim Harbaugh is going to be out this year 291 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: or at the very worst after this year. I do 292 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: not believe that. I still don't believe that. I don't 293 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: think that's founded in anything tangible. Now, let me slow down. 294 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I didn't just say. You 295 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: did not hear me say I agree with that mentality 296 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: of keeping him around no matter what, because I agree 297 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: with you, guys, if you're looking at your program, if 298 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan, you know, if we're looking together 299 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: and we're saying, man, it's just not happening here. We 300 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: don't think Jim Harbaugh is the answer. The you know, 301 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the climb back just appears to be in surmounted, but 302 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: it's the freefall. You're not even climbing, you're just free falling. 303 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: You can't dig your foot into the ground when you're 304 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: free falling. You can't get any traction. That's what Wisconsin, 305 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: or that's what a Michigan football rather feels like right now. 306 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: If you feel that way, and I'm a Michigan fan, 307 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I'd be right there with you. I just want to 308 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: remind you, you guys know this better than anyone if 309 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: you follow this program. The folks who are ultimately tasked 310 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: with making this decision do not value football equal to 311 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: that of other major programs in your own conference, let 312 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: alone America. And like Bruce Hornsby told you, that's just 313 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: the way it is. Some things will never change. Some 314 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: really good song, some things will never change. So short 315 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: of a mutual separation by Jim Harbaugh and University of 316 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Michigan at the end of this season, as we sit 317 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: here right now, I don't think change is going to 318 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: be made. I would be happy to be proven wrong there. 319 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't think a change is going to be initiated 320 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: by Michigan. I'll say that so you could forget Let 321 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: me just put it this way now. As for some 322 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: of you who thought a change is coming, you know 323 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: by next week, that's not happening. Michigan point blank, categorically false. 324 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: That's not happening. Michigan's not making a move in the season. 325 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: And I would be happy for Colin to pull up 326 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: this footage and I would play it on loop if 327 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: they do, because they will certainly have proven not only me, 328 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: but a lot of folks I know who are very 329 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: close to that program wrong. Maybe staff changes come. I 330 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: told you I thought one of the maybe aces in 331 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: his back pocket he has is he could make moves defensively. 332 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, he came in, he brought Josh Gattison as 333 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: his OC. Maybe he could make a move with Don 334 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: Brown and bring in a DC. I don't know if 335 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: that helps at this point. Maybe folks in decision making positions, 336 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: maybe they just possess a lot more perspective on this. 337 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Maybe they are of the opinion and have been all year. 338 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: We made the decision in August. Even if we play 339 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: is as we said with South Carolina a COVID year, 340 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: we even if we go winless, are not making a move. 341 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: We have already decided that let's all sign our name 342 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: to a piece of paper. Let's lock it in a box. 343 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Let's let's store it in the middle of the ocean, 344 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: like it's done, it's over. That could be the case here. 345 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Having a great I just want to say this, having 346 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: a great football program and exhibiting proper values, those don't 347 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: have to be mutually exclusive and right now the attitude, 348 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: it feels like that a lot of folks feel Michigan 349 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: has just accepted is well in order to run things 350 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the Michigan way, we're not going to be able to contend. 351 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't accept that. I don't care how it has 352 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: been done in the past. Even I would never accept that. 353 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a Michigan fan, and I don't accept it, 354 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: so I certainly wouldn't accept it if I were among 355 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: you guys. But again, ultimately, I don't know how much 356 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: power you have here right now. You never know how 357 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: much power a vocal fan base has had on a situation. 358 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: But I don't think the torch and pitchfork crowd is 359 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: going to get it done here for Michigan. Other Week 360 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: eleven takeaways, and boy, there were a lot of them. 361 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: As I said, it looked like, according to some people, 362 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be a slow week. Ended up being 363 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: anything but that. Oh boy, okay, I was just looking 364 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: at some other things here. There's a lot of when 365 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: we do the live show, you know, I'll give you 366 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: a little behind the scenes here. So Colin and I 367 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: are the only two people who are cleared to be 368 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: in our building. It's been that way since March, I guess, 369 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: And normally we would have a staff of at least 370 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: one more person, if not more. In an ideal world 371 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: that would be monitoring the YouTube chat right now. They 372 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: would be in my ear with added production cues, call 373 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: them a line producer. Well, we don't have that right now, 374 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: and so it's just Colin and I and Colin's got 375 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: to have I think he's got four, maybe five arms 376 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: right now, so he's got to work multiple streams, gotta 377 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: work audio, got all those fancy little lower thirds and 378 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: videos and elements. He's got to bring the b roll 379 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: in and the lower thirds in. So I say all 380 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: that to say this, if news is breaking during the show, 381 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't know, so I'm trying to trying to monitor. 382 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: I got one, two, three, four or five. I got 383 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: seven windows up simultane viously, so you know, sometimes if 384 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: I don't get to your chat immediately, That's why. So 385 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about some Week eleven takeaways, and 386 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with a game that I think 387 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: was off a lot of radars, because I think a 388 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: lot of you had already maybe gone out to eat 389 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: or maybe tuned out for the day. Oregon ended up 390 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: beating Washington State last night. Forty three to twenty nine 391 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: was the final, and I really believe this was the 392 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: most significant off the radar result yesterday. If you're ever 393 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: thinking in terms of your national top fifteen, top ten picture, 394 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: maybe your fringe playoff conversation, maybe potential teams who could 395 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: see a surge late in the year. Well, Oregon's in 396 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: that conversation. Obviously they just started their season, but they're 397 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: in that conversation. They were down nineteen to seven. If 398 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: you look at this final score and you don't know 399 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: anything about the game, you may not guess that they 400 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: were favored by I think ten and a half and 401 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: so they were minus three turnovers. In this contest, we 402 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: value turnovers around four and three quarter points per play. 403 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: So if you just do the simple math there, that 404 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: means we think a ten and a half point favorite 405 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: should lose the game outright if they have a minus 406 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: three turnover margin. Not only did they end up winning, 407 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: they ended up covering Tyler. Well, actually I was talking 408 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: about someone else. I was talking to a dude named 409 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: Tyler today and we were talking about the pronunciation of 410 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: the Oregon quarterbacks last name. And then Colin and I 411 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: had a little debate about it too. Shuck, just ignore 412 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the spelling, mister Shuck was twenty one to thirty for 413 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve yards, four touchdowns last night and 414 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: again in come from behind fashion and far less than 415 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: ideal weather conditions in Pullman, Oregon had three hundred and 416 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: fifty three yards in the second half alone. This was 417 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: a it was a legitimate come from behind and then 418 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: cruise pass someone type performance. It was, to be honest 419 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: with you, a style of play that I don't know 420 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought Oregon would be capable 421 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: of early in the year. Keep in mind, this is 422 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: not only a new quarterback there, but it's a new 423 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in Joe Moorehead. It's an entirely reworked offensive line, 424 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: and they were put in a situation on the road 425 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: at a place that's not been kind to Oregon, to 426 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: say the very least over the last number of years, 427 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: and they end up just just cruising past Washington State. 428 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: So despite all those issues, they win. They cover For 429 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: those of you interested in that, what could this mean? Again? 430 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's off the radar. I don't think 431 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people are taken away a lot from 432 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: this game. Here's what I took away from it. Do 433 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: you remember earlier in the year when, well, let's use 434 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: Ole Miss for both of these comparisons. You had Florida 435 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: play Old Miss. They won, Their defense looked bad, but 436 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: they won. Alabama played Old Miss. Oh, they look bad defensively, 437 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: but they still won. A lot of people had their 438 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: doubts about those teams, respectfully after that game. Well, Oregon 439 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: had defensive issues. Last night, they got it done. Offense 440 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: showed life that again, I don't think a lot of people, 441 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: may be myself included, thought they'd possessed early in the year, 442 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: and they got it done. You can walk away from 443 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: this game one of two ways. You can either say, ugh, 444 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean great, they won, but really you had to 445 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: come from behind against Washington State and I'm supposed to 446 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: take you seriously as a playoff contender. Well, were we 447 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: not saying the same thing about Florida and week one? 448 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: Excuse me, there's no we here. I bought Florida after 449 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Week one. Some people who were doubting Florida said they're 450 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: not going to be a serious contender. They couldn't even 451 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: stop Old Miss. Well, in retrospect, you realize it's not 452 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: the easiest thing in the world to do, is it. 453 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: Alabama has had some struggles defensively early in the year 454 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: and still found ways to win. Florida Ohio State has 455 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: not let the world on fire defensively. My point is, 456 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: be careful just eliminating a lot of these teams from 457 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: conversation when you've only seen them scratch the surface of 458 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: what their overall potential will be this year and they 459 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: just have some defensive issues. If you can score, and 460 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: you got a solid coaching staff and you've got the 461 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: actual pieces that the talent that's necessary, then you'll see 462 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: some defensive progression from Oregon this year. So my point is, 463 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: will we look back on this thing a month from now, 464 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: That's the kind of perspective you're gonna need and say, well, 465 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: there was a struggle win for Oregon and it was 466 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: just part of an overall decent year, you know, one 467 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: or two losses, still good enough to win the Pac twelve, 468 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: but not a playoff contender. Or or will it be 469 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: a game you look back on and you say, around 470 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: halftime of that Washington State game, that's where you can 471 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: kind of pinpoint this role that Oregon's gotten on since then, 472 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: and maybe we're sitting a month from now and we're 473 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: definitely talking about them in the playoff conversation, saying, hey man, 474 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: remember we didn't think a Pac twelve team was ever 475 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: gonna even ever even gonna sniff the playoff. But now 476 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: with way Oregon's looked ever since halftime of that Washington 477 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: State game, I'm just saying, that's the way it could happen. 478 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: So keep an eye on Oregon. Florida is there. They're 479 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: already in the conversation sixty three to thirty five. They 480 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: beat Arkansas. I was asking myself if I told Arkansas Friday, 481 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to take Sam Pittman down there, 482 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna be without your coach, and you're gonna still 483 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you thirty five points. Would you have 484 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: taken that? Would you have taken your chances with thirty 485 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: five points? I think the answer is yes, No, Kyle Pitts. 486 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: In this game, it's a game where Florida's coming off Georgia. 487 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: So you know, in the classical sense, it's the old 488 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: do down, which is really overused and it's a methodology 489 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: that some of you use for betting that's about fifteen 490 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: years too late. It's all baked into the number of friends. 491 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to tell you. If you're aware 492 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: of it. Odds makers are aware of it. But keep 493 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: using that, just like you keep using so and So's 494 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: eight and three on grass games before three thirty pms 495 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety two. Like that stuff matters. But I 496 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: digress sixty three to thirty five is the total? Are 497 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: is the final score here? And the point I want 498 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: to make is all that stuff's true. Kyle Pitts was out. 499 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: It was a game coming off of Georgia when that 500 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: they had desperately wanted for a number of years. Now, 501 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: when you get to a certain tier, there aren't many 502 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: of them in that top tier. But you've seen Alabama 503 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: do this in the past. You've seen Clemson, Ohio State, 504 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and that's about as long as the list is able 505 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: to do this in the past. When you get to 506 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: the top tier, a lot of these external factors let down, 507 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: look ahead, emotionally, drank like all that stuff. It kind 508 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: of doesn't matter anymore because once you get above that 509 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: certain threshold, the freeze point, if you will, into the 510 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: top tier, you just render all that stuff irrelevant. And 511 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people I guarantee you last 512 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: night that ended up up giving Arkansas a look, especially 513 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Arkansas plus the points, and they told themselves Kyle Pitts out, 514 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: who let down spot coming off that Georgia game, Man, Arkansas, 515 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: Arkansas's exceeded expectation is your Felipe Franks going home to 516 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: the swamp. We gave it a lot of run last week. 517 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: We didn't take Arkansas plus the points, but we entertained 518 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: the idea what happening. What happened really never in doubt 519 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: here and so good on Florida defensively. Again, if you've 520 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: watched this team defensively, they have limitations. But like I 521 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: said with Oregon, until you can find me a team 522 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: that's going to be in the playoff out there that's 523 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: going to put an elite defense on the field, because 524 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: I haven't seen one yet this year, until you find 525 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: one that means Florida can win a national championship. They 526 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: can win the SEC. If they don't win the SEC, 527 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: they can still get in the playoff and they can 528 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: put themselves in position if they bring whatever their a 529 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: game is and do enough defensively situationally, you know, perform 530 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: well in the red zone, they can win. They can 531 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: do it. They absolutely can. Notre Dame forty five, Boston 532 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: College thirty one upset. Texts in the eye Josh yesterday 533 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: morning from some unknown people who will remain nameless unless 534 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: they want to name themselves. I was kind of worried 535 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: about this game for Notre Dame, just judging by years 536 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: past and judging by the quote I gave you on 537 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Thursday show, which went something like this, you take no 538 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: game for granted when you're limited at quarterback. Because of 539 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: that mentality, I was worried about them here. They were 540 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point favorite, and they went on 541 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: the road and they ended up winning by about that margin. 542 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: But in reality, they were in control of this game 543 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: most of the way. They were very balanced, if you 544 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: believe balance is found in statistics. Notre Dame two hundred 545 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: and eighty three yards passing, two hundred and seventy eight 546 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: yards rushing. Yesterday, Ian book the zero in the interception column, 547 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: again the most important stat here, but he was twenty 548 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: of twenty seven for two to eighty three three touchdowns. 549 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: Really good day. They were not handing the game away 550 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: now they did fumble and lose three fumbles, so minus 551 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: won turnovers on the road week after that club game. 552 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: You'll take the win, obviously, you'll take the win. You 553 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: know what they feel like to me because they have 554 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: thirty one at the half in a week where you 555 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: would expect maybe them not to click offensively. They had 556 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: thirty one at the half and Boston College grabbed an 557 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: early lead and then they bypassed them and it was 558 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: comfortable at the half. They feel like a team in 559 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: ascension mode, you know, they feel like a team kind 560 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: of like Florida's felt a little bit this year. And 561 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: all the great teams end up having this in common. 562 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: They keep getting better and you end up looking week 563 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: over week and then maybe at the end of the 564 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: year a month over month, and you say, this team's 565 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: significantly better than they were a month ago. If you're 566 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: going to be a contender, you have to by default, 567 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: by the very nature of what the other contenders are doing, 568 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: you've got to exhibit those characteristics. Notre Dame's exhibiting those characteristics. 569 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people just have this 570 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: stoic picture of what Notre Dame football is in their head, 571 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: doesn't ever change. You know, the personnel change, the names 572 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: on the back of the jersey's change, but you just 573 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: have defined what they're capable of and what their limitations are. 574 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe in that. I believe every team is 575 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: unique under that team, and every year is unique under 576 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: that year. Notre Dame their next four weeks. They are off. 577 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: This week, they go to North Carolina, Syracuse at home 578 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: at wake Forest. Certainly they'll be favored in all those games. 579 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: They have yet to drop one, so they are bound 580 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: for in all likelihood another ACC championship. Well they have 581 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: never been in one. Another appearance against Clemson in all 582 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: likelihood in the ACC title game. Gonna be fun to watch. 583 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: Gonna be fun to watch. Miami. Speaking of the ACC, 584 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: I told you last week. I think I said it 585 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: on air. I certainly said it on the podcast. Our Numbers. 586 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Our model told us to take Miami. I was not 587 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: going to touch them until it got to plus three, 588 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: and it never got to plus three. It stayed at 589 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: plus two. Miami ends up winning the game twenty five 590 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: to twenty four. I told you our model had Miami 591 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: winning by one, so in a way, our model could 592 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: not have sniffed out this game any more effectively, but 593 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: it never got to three, so we never took it. 594 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: This was a pretty under the radar good win for 595 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Miami yesterday. They were missing a lot They almost didn't 596 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: play this game and that they would have had in 597 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: common with a lot of other teams across the country. 598 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech sort of controlled this thing and then Miami 599 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: scores the final twelve. They got two touchdowns towards the end. 600 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: And I was reading over on Inside the U earlier today, 601 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: which is our Miami branch of the twenty four to 602 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: seven Sports dot Com network, and David Lake he made 603 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: a really good point over on Inside the U. He said, 604 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, Miami's won the past three games, so again 605 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: it's been kind off the radar, it's been a little quiet, 606 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: but they've won their last three games by a combined 607 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: nine points. So they're winning the close games and they're 608 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: winning games period. What's the trend there. They have not 609 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: turned the ball over, no turnovers in those three games. 610 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, you look at this game last 611 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: year against Virginia Tech. It's a perfect microcos and they 612 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: lost it close last year because of those reasons. Well, 613 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: they won it this year. Because of those reasons. They 614 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: are seven and one. Are the Miami Hurricanes seven and one? 615 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: A lot of talk out there before the season, will 616 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: they be above or below five hundred? Well they're seven 617 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: and one. They got Georgia Tech this week. They're favored 618 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: by a round twenty somewhere between eighteen and twenty depending 619 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: on where you look. Then they're at Wake Forest, and 620 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: then they got North Carolina to end the year. There's 621 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: a chance here, I mean there's a chance where they 622 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: get up around nine or ten wins. They also could 623 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: lose all three of those games. It's very close. They're 624 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: a very close, low margin for era team right now. 625 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: But as long as they control the football, as is 626 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the case with most teams, they give themselves a shot. 627 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: So obviously a lot of stuff going on here. I 628 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: want to remind you again, those of you who keep 629 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: kind of tuning in at various points here since we're live, 630 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: remember if you want the very latest on any kind 631 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: of coaching surge. I learned this a long time ago 632 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: when I was down in Columbus. I learned a long 633 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: time ago. I was given a five night a week 634 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: college football show on local TV down in Columbus, ironically 635 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: by a South Carolina grab and so they ask what 636 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: kind of guests would you have on and they were 637 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: picturing names and faces you always see on national TV 638 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: or at the very least regional TV like SEC Network, 639 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: And that's great, like those guys and girls, they're great. 640 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: But all I did was ever book guests that worked 641 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: for twenty four seven Sports. I get like Travis Ryer 642 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: from Bama Online. I get Sherbert from the Big Spur. 643 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I would get Jake Rowe used to come on the show. 644 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: Gentury Estes is a name from back in the day 645 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: that would come on the show. And the reason I 646 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: did that is because I didn't care if the mass 647 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: public was aware of the names or not. I wanted 648 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: the best information on the show, and those guys always 649 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: brought the best information because they're on the ground. They're 650 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: not only on the beat, they're on the ground there 651 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: and they're tied in to recruiting and football. You gotta 652 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: find folks who are informed at that intersection. And that's why, 653 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: long before I came to work here, I loved hitting 654 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: up the guys at twenty four to seven for information 655 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: and for sourcing. Anytime i'd need a live guest because 656 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: they know everything that's going on. So I say all 657 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: that to say this, when these coaching searches are happening, 658 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: you can hang out on Twitter and you can wait 659 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: for one of the big national heads to tweet something out. 660 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: They'll be right. They'll it'll be well sourced and it'll 661 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: be right. But if you want the eye in the scenes, 662 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: if you want the inner workings, if you want to 663 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: see out, it's fully mechanized. These message boards on the 664 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: individual twenty four to seven sites for instance, like the 665 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Big Spur with South Carolina, it is gold, It's wonderful. 666 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: I just kind of voyeuristically peruse. I'd love to talk 667 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: to you guys there first off, so I go back 668 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: and forth with a lot of you, but I just 669 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: want to get the temperature when we do our mood tracker. 670 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: It's normally because I've just been kind of scanning message 671 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: board like a little tiger sharp just below the surface, 672 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: just scanning and I want to get the feel. So 673 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: the feel on the Carolina message board right now, actually 674 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: there's a wide range of feels and the context there 675 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: could be taken many different ways, but the feel right now, 676 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: in terms of who are you going to hire go 677 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways, and always remember two 678 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: places that I am never in a rush to be 679 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: first for Number one is recruiting predictions and number two 680 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: is coaching hires. There's a lot of intentional misinformation floated 681 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: out there, so you got to be careful, don't allow 682 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: your to be used. And I'm not talking to you now, 683 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm mainly talking to myself. You can just kind of 684 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 1: listen in on this. I would rather just wait for 685 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: it to happen. And so what I'm telling you is, 686 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: we're not going to break that news here. That's where 687 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: it'll be broken. So that's my word to the wise 688 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to coaching searches. Now, as for the 689 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Ramnudle Express, what a day this was. Yesterday we stayed 690 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: at five hundred. We're three and three. We're fifty eight 691 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: nearly fifty nine percent against the spread this year, so 692 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: we're having a really good year. I thought we deserved 693 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: so much more. Yesterday we are sitting there with SMU 694 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: and I know West Virginia was our best bet and 695 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: they rolled. That was an easy one. But I felt 696 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: just as good about SMU and we had them plus 697 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: two and a half. Yeah, two and a half. So 698 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: they're up twenty one to nothing, just like that, just 699 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: right out of the gate. And somehow they figure out 700 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: a way to score a grand total of three points 701 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the evening, and they ended up losing somehow. 702 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: And to this very moment in time, I have no 703 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: clue how they lost. I watched the game, sat right 704 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: over in our office and I watched the game and 705 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: I just shook my head. I didn't eve say anything, 706 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: and I just shook my head. So we're dusting ourselves off. 707 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: The white tea has been dusted off, even washed, and 708 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: we're moving on. We have got two early best bets 709 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: this week. Already tweeted one of them out at late 710 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: kick Josh imperative that you follow me there because that's 711 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: sometimes where we get the best number. I already put 712 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: the first one out. But we've got two. This is 713 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: a rarity for Sunday Night Northern Illinois Wednesday Night special. 714 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Here could have also been E Leonard Skinners song plus 715 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: fourteen Northern Illinois plus fourteen at ball State. That's a 716 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: Wednesday night game. And here we go the Big ten 717 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: showdown that none of us ever expected. Indiana undefeated, Top 718 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: ten Indiana, not on the hardwood, on the gridiron at 719 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State Saturday, we are getting an opportunity to lay 720 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: less than three touchdowns with Ohio State against Indiana. On 721 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: principle alone, that's a play. But when I looked at 722 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: our model, our model has Ohio State winning by twenty 723 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: five and a half, a little over twenty five and a half. 724 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: So we like Northern Illinois plus fourteen and we like 725 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State minus twenty and a half. I'd be very, 726 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: very surprised if that's not three touchdowns plus by the 727 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: time they kick it off Saturday. So be smart about it. Again, 728 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: as I always tell you, don't cherry pick them, play 729 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: them all for equal amount, or don't play any of 730 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: them at all. But if you're going to move on 731 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State, I would say do it now. Another reminder 732 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: on the back end here, if you've tuned in late, 733 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: the queue has been cleared for those of you who 734 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: want to hit up the one hour media consultations. So 735 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: those of you who are interested in sports media, interested 736 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: in form of your own podcast, YouTube channel, and you 737 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: just kind of kind of haven't dipped tow in the 738 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: water yet, you're thinking about it, you know, you're passionate 739 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: about it, book one with me, joshpat seven zero six 740 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or on Twitter at late Kick Josh, 741 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: first Come, first serve. I'm about to dive into my 742 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: inbox as soon as we get off the air here 743 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: and we'll start booking them up for this week until 744 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, at which point probably half of the sport 745 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: will have overturned itself for director Colin for Jordan. On 746 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: the podcast side, I'm Josh Pate yourself a great week 747 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: and God bless