1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. We invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with the Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast, am employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You may 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: have heard the expression we are divine souls having a 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: human experience, that our souls are so much bigger than 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: we are that consciousness, whatever consciousness is, is connected to 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: everything and outlives our human existence. Today, we are going 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: to go where we've never gone on this podcast before, 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: and we're going to explore consciousness and who we really 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: are powerful immortal souls. We'll start by hearing some verritical 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: near death experience stories, times when there was no way 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: people could witness anything because they were flatlined on an 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: operating table, but their consciousness could see factual things with 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: the eyes of their soul. You'll hear from a scientist, 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: Professor Donald Hoffman, speculating on a theory about what consciousness 30 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: may be, followed by a great story by doctor Bruce Lipton, 31 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: once a disbeliever, about an experiment when some cells of 32 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: a man were transported three hundred and fifty miles away 33 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: from him and observed at the same time the man 34 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: was being observed. Whatever the man experienced the cells in 35 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: the test tube. Responded, Doctor Lipton believes who we really 36 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: are is not the cells or the human body, but 37 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: rather the space in between. I can't wait for you 38 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: to hear all of these good things, so let's get started. First, 39 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: Let's listen to a conversation between two doctors about a 40 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: man who came back to life after being declared dead 41 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: and what he told the doctors. Meet cardiac surgeon doctor 42 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: Rudy as he chats with doctor Milligan. 43 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: We had a very unfortunate individual who on Christmas Day 44 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: had from an oral infection infected his native valve. The 45 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: body recognizes that as something abnormal that it's got to 46 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: take care of. One of my junior partners was on 47 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: call and he had to do an emergency valve resection. 48 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: Once we were able to accomplish the repair of the 49 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: aneurysm and the replacement of the valve, we could not 50 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: get the person off of the bypass. Every time the 51 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: four or five liters of blood that we were pumping 52 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: around his body we reduced down to two or three, 53 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: he'd begin to weaken in his boy person would go 54 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: down and so on, and make a long story short, 55 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: we simply couldn't get him off the heart lung machine. Finally, 56 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: we just had to give up. I mean, we just said, 57 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: we cannot get him off off of the heart lung machine, 58 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: so we're gonna have to pronounce him debt. So we 59 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: did that, and so the anteceesiologist turned his machine off 60 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: and the bellows that were breathing for the patient stopped. 61 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: That machine was quiet. The assezyologist went into surgeon's lounge. 62 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: He hadn't eaten anything all day, so he went in 63 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: to have a sandwich. Then the people who usually clean 64 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: up the instruments and all that were coming in and 65 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: taking away all these tools, and my surgical assistant close 66 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 4: the patient in a way that a post mortem exam 67 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: could be done, because anyone who succumbs on the table, 68 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 4: by law, has to have an autos Well, the machine 69 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 4: that records the blood pressure and the pulse and the 70 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: left atrial pressure, and all the monitoring lines and things 71 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: continued to run the paper out onto the floor in 72 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 4: a big heat. Nobody bothered to turn little. And then 73 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: we put down a transiesophageal echo probe, which is just 74 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: a long tube that has a microphone on the end 75 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: of it, and we can get a beautiful picture on 76 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: a monitor of the heart beating. Well, that machine was 77 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: left on and the VCR tape continued to run. 78 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 5: Well. 79 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: The assistant surgeon and I went in and took our 80 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: gowns off and gloves and masks and things, and came 81 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: back and we were in our short sleeved shirts, and 82 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: we were standing at the door discussing if there was 83 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: anything else we could have done, any other medicines we 84 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: could have given whatever to have made this a success. 85 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: And as we were standing there, it had been at 86 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: least twenty minutes this man recorded no heartbeat, no blood pressure, 87 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: no movement of the heart, just sitting there. All of 88 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: a sudden we looked up and we saw some electrical activity, 89 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: and pretty soon the electrical activity turned into a heartbeat, 90 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: very slow, thirty forty a minute, and we thought, well, 91 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: that's kind of an agon old thing, and we see 92 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: that occasionally that the heart will continue to beat even 93 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: though the patient can't generate a blood pressure or pump 94 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: any butt. Well, pretty soon we look and he's actually 95 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: generating a pressure. So I start yelling, get annesthesia back 96 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: in here and get the nurses to make a very 97 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: long story short without putting him back on cardiopulmonary bypath 98 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: artline machine and stuff. We started giving him some medicines 99 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: and anecesia started giving him oxygen, and pretty soon he 100 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: had a pressure of eighty and pretty soon but pressure 101 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: of a hundred, and his heart rate was now up 102 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: to under the minute. Now he recovered and had no 103 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: neurologic deficit, And for the next two weeks all of 104 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: us went in and were talking to him about what 105 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: he experienced, if anything, and he talked about the bright 106 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: light at the end of the tunnel, as I recall, 107 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: and so on. But the thing that astounded me was 108 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: that he described that operating room floating around and saying, 109 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: I saw you and doctor Catanio standing in the doorway 110 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: with your arms folded talking. You know where the anti 111 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: geologist was. But he came running back in and I 112 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: saw all of these post its sitting on this TV 113 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: screen and what those we were. Any call I got, 114 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: the nurse would write down who called and the phone 115 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: number and stick it on the monitor, and then the 116 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: next post it would stick to that post it, and 117 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: then I'd have a string of post its of phone 118 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: calls I had to make. 119 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: He described that. 120 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way he could have described that 121 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: before the operation, because they didn't have any calls, no, right, and. 122 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: He's sitting on and lying on so he must have 123 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: been floating. 124 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: He was up there. 125 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: He described the scene things that there is no way 126 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: he knew. I mean, he didn't wake up in the 127 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: operating room and see all this. I mean he was 128 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: out and was out for I don't know even a 129 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: day or two while we recovered him in the intensity carrion. 130 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: So what does that tell you? Was that his soul 131 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: up there? 132 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: It's hard to know. It certainly brings that possibility into play. 133 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: It always makes me very emotional. There have been other instances, 134 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: like one other I remember so vividly was a guy 135 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: who was on anti coagulation UH medicines that keep you 136 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: from clotting. And I don't even remember the operation, but 137 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: we had to do him right away. And you try 138 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: and reverse that as much as possible, but it's impossible 139 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 4: to completely do it right. And we were in there 140 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: and we'd finish the surgery and we just simply could 141 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: not stop this person from bleeding. I mean, we pulled 142 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: out every gun in the armory right to try and 143 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: get this everything. You yeah, and we finally decided we're 144 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: not gonna be able to stop this bleeding. And all 145 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: of a sudden, nobody spoke because everybody in that room 146 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: felt a presence. They asked Sjaal just and I talked 147 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: about it afterwards. I mean, there was no question there 148 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: was a presence in that room, and he stopped bleeding 149 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: just like that. 150 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: How do you explain that? What is your take on that, 151 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 5: doctor Rudi? 152 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: Oh, there's something out there that you know, people with 153 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: faith believers, is there. Some people call it God, some 154 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: people call it other things, Buddha or Mohammad or whoever. 155 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: It has convinced me there is something. 156 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 5: Out there, something out there. It is so good of 157 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: you to share this with people who don't get the 158 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 5: opportunity to be at those near death or post death experiences. 159 00:10:59,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 5: I don't know. 160 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: It just convinces you that the strings are. 161 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: Being handled up itwhere. 162 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,359 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, absolutely, and it makes me very emotional. 163 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 5: I can tell. Is there any last things that you'd 164 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 5: like to say? 165 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: Well, just that I presented this case to thirteen other 166 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: cardiac surgeons throughout the country in a special meeting, and 167 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: they had had several similar experience. It's not quite as 168 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: dramatic as the one I had, but everybody that deals 169 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: with that every day has had those experiences. 170 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: It's not just me, It's definitely not just him. Here's 171 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: a quick story. Kimberly Clark Sharp was a social worker 172 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: at a medical center in Seattle. One day, one of 173 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: her patients, Maria went into cardiac arrest and flatlined. When 174 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 3: Maria awoke, she was trying to tell Kimberly that she'd 175 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: left her body and watched her resuscitation from the corner 176 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: of the room, and she was able to provide details 177 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: on who was in the room and exactly what they 178 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: were doing. Then, Maria said she found herself floating outside 179 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: the hospital and became distracted by a tennis shoe. She 180 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: said it was on a window ledge three or four 181 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: floors from the ground. She described it as a man's 182 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: dark blue tennis shoe, well worn, scuffed on the left 183 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: side where the little toe would go. Patient Maria was 184 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: adamant that Kimberly go find the shoe as evidence that 185 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: she really saw it and that she left her body. 186 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: Kimberly began to search from room to room. Finally she 187 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: found the tennis shoe exactly matching Maria's description, on a 188 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: window ledge of the third floor on the west side 189 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: of the hospital. This is what we call a verified 190 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: near death experience. We'll be right back with some amazing 191 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: story es. 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I'm Sandra Champlain 200 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: and on our episode today, we are looking at veridical 201 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: evidence coming from near death experiences proving that our consciousness, 202 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: our soul, is outside of our body. Here's a quick story. 203 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: Doctor Brian Weiss reports that a blind, elderly woman had 204 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: a heart attack in the hospital where he was working 205 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: as a psychiatrist. As the resuscitation team tried to revive 206 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: the unconscious woman, she floated out of her body and 207 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: stood near the window, watching the whole thing unfold. She 208 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: calmly watched them pump air into her lungs and thump 209 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: on her chest. At one point, a pen fell out 210 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: of her doctor's pocket and rolled on the floor close 211 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: to the window where she was standing. A little while. 212 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: The doctor walked over and picked up the pen and 213 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: put it back into his pocket and continued working to 214 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: try to save her. A few days later, the woman 215 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: informed the cardiologist that she had witnessed the whole team 216 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: trying to resuscitate her. Her doctor told her that she 217 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: was mistaken and probably hallucinated due to the lack of 218 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: oxygen in her brain. Then she gave the doctor the 219 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: shock of his life. But I saw your pen roll 220 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: over to the window. 221 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 7: She said. 222 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: She then went on to describe the resuscitation procedure in detail. 223 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: When doctor Weiss interviewed the cardiologist days later, he was 224 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: very shaken up about how this lady, who was not 225 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: only comatose during the incident but also blind, could have 226 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: seen those unlikely details, all of which were confirmed accurate. Next, 227 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: we're going to hear a few words from Professor Donald Hoffman, 228 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: whose studies cognitive science, perception, evolution, and consciousness, who is 229 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: also the author of one hundred and twenty scientific papers 230 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: and three books, including The Case Against Reality, Why Evolution 231 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: Hid the Truth from Our Eyes. His writing has appeared 232 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: in scientific journals. He's been on the program Through the 233 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, and his Ted talk titled Do 234 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: We See Reality As It Is? Has almost three million views. 235 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: In this clip, he'll share about physicalism, also known as 236 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: when you die, you die. However, there is a world 237 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: of consciousness that science has yet to explain. He offers 238 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: a very interesting theory on the nature of consciousness that 239 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll enjoy hearing. Here is Professor Donald Hoffman. 240 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 8: Physicalism has a very clear implication for death. Time is 241 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 8: fundamental and elementary particles like electrons and quarks and protons 242 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 8: and so forth, are the fundamental nature of reality. And 243 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 8: what you are, what your body is, is just a 244 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 8: complex assemblage of particles, and your consciousness is somehow an 245 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 8: emergent property of certain activities of those particles, say brain activity. 246 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 8: Then it's very very clear that in death, when the 247 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 8: brain dissolves, your consciousness dissolves, and that's the end of 248 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 8: the story. 249 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 7: That's it. 250 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 8: That's a very very clear implication of physicalism. But if 251 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 8: consciousness is fundamental and space time is just an interface, 252 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 8: and our bodies are merely icons that we use to 253 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 8: represent certain interactions of conscious agents, then on that approach, 254 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 8: there is the possibility that some aspect of my consciousness 255 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 8: survives death. Now there I have to look at the 256 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 8: mathematics of the model and go into it. But it 257 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 8: may be, for example, that the bare awareness that's associated 258 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 8: with me, just awareness without content that survives, but all 259 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 8: the details of Donald Hoffman and his life story within 260 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 8: this interface, maybe that all dissolves. That's a story about 261 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 8: what is consciousness up to When we can talk about 262 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 8: if consciousness is fundamental, what is it doing and why? 263 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 8: What is the dynamics of consciousness about? To answer the 264 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 8: question about death, we might have to answer that question too, 265 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 8: So I'll try a stab at that question because I 266 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 8: think it relates to the death question. So what is 267 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 8: consciousness doing and why? The right answers I don't know, 268 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 8: And I've only seen one idea that seems deep enough 269 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 8: to at least be worth thinking about. And I want 270 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 8: to say it's the right idea, But only one idea 271 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 8: that seems deep enough to at least be a candidate, 272 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 8: and it again comes from Girdle's Incompleteness. There, Girdle says 273 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 8: that essentially, no matter how much you explore within a 274 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 8: particular conceptual system, you can't get all the true. There's 275 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 8: always going to be more to explore. Mathematically, So if 276 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 8: consciousness is the fundamental nature of reality, and consciousness is 277 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 8: all there is, then mathematical structure is only about the 278 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 8: possibilities of consciousness. That's all that there is to be about. 279 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 8: And so what if what consciousness is doing, Since the 280 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 8: exploration of mathematical structure is in principle unending, then perhaps 281 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 8: the exploration of the possibilities of consciousness itself is in 282 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 8: principle unending. And therefore consciousness what is up to is 283 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 8: exploring all of his potentialities. And the reason is continuing 284 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 8: to do that, from our perspective, is continue to do 285 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 8: that is because there's no end to it in principle, 286 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 8: So consciousness of self is in some sense always learning 287 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 8: about itself. And so perhaps then what we are, what 288 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 8: people are, and what cats are, and what dogs are 289 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 8: and what amoebas are and so forth, is consciousness trying 290 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 8: on different headsets, different realities and exploring and losing itself. 291 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 8: So this is very interesting idea that the consciousness chooses 292 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 8: to really explore so deeply that it loses itself in 293 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 8: the exploration, doesn't even know what it is. It becomes 294 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 8: a physicalist. It actually thinks that consciousness isn't fundamental. It 295 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 8: goes through the whole bit and then slowly has to 296 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 8: wake up and so doing it really explores what it's 297 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 8: not and what it is. In some sense, to know 298 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 8: what you are, you have to know what you're not. 299 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 8: So on that point of view, the Hoffmann icon is 300 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: simply consciousness taking a perspective on itself, looking at itself 301 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 8: through a particular spacetime headset, taking a low projection, and 302 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 8: from that headset finite. There was a birth, there was 303 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 8: growing strong until your twenties and thirties, and then after 304 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 8: forties you start declining, and when you're eighties and nineties 305 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 8: you die. And that whole process is just consciousness exploring 306 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 8: itself from a particular perspective, in which case maybe the 307 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 8: Hoffmann Icon and maybe a lot of stuff can be 308 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 8: left behind. But in some sense, consciousness itself has learned 309 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 8: something through that experience, and the eight billion other people 310 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 8: and the quadrillions of ambas and the who knows how 311 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 8: many viruses and so forth. Consciousness is just trying on 312 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 8: innumerable headsets, and when it's done with that headset, it 313 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 8: takes it off, and awareness is perfectly fine. The raw 314 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 8: awareness is fine. But the detailed icons that happened to 315 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 8: appear spacetime icons objects in space and time, brains neurons, 316 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 8: all those things. Those are just icons, and you study 317 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 8: them and then you realize, pretty cool. Mount Everest, what 318 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 8: a beautiful eye. Death Valley, what a beautiful icon. But 319 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 8: I'm not that I'm something even more transcendent than space 320 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 8: and time. I'm more transcendent than Death Valley. So consciousness 321 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 8: is just waking up. I mean again, I'm trying to 322 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 8: tell a story. I'm not saying that it's correct. It's 323 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 8: the only story I've seen so far that at least 324 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 8: is deep enough that it's worth taking seriously. 325 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: I know that some deep thinking, but it goes along 326 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: with my belief that we come to this earth forgetting 327 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: who we really are, and that our consciousness and our 328 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: soul is not just in our body. Next we'll hear 329 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: some words from a very passionate doctor Bruce Lipton Wants 330 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: a disbeliever who is now an internationally recognized authority in 331 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: bridging science and spirit and a leading voice in new biology. 332 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: He's the author of several books, including the Biology of Belief, 333 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter, and Miracles. 334 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 7: My name is Bruce Lipton. I'm the author of the 335 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 7: best selling books Biology Belief, Spontaneous evolution in the honeymoon effect. 336 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 7: My research on stem cells back in the sixties reveals 337 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 7: something to me that I never believed in, and that 338 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 7: is spirituality. Oh my god, I'm a scientist and I 339 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 7: was using the word spirituality. I sort of got black 340 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 7: ball from my community because I was against the rules 341 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 7: in science to bring it up. So I left science. 342 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 7: But I came back at Stanford University with research back 343 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 7: in the nineties and then published some great papers, and 344 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 7: as a result, I have been having a most wonderful 345 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 7: life on this planet. And a lot of it has 346 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 7: to do with the fact that I never believed in spirituality. 347 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 7: As a scientist, there was genes and proteins and chromosomes 348 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 7: and all that kind of stuff. But through the studies 349 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 7: of the cells, there was one important little fact that 350 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 7: came in and disturbed everything, and that was very simply this, 351 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 7: No two people are the same biologically, And I go, 352 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 7: what do you mean? I go, well, if I want 353 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 7: to put my cells into David, his immune system would 354 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 7: say not self and rejected. If David cells come into 355 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 7: my body, my immune system will say not self and rejected. 356 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 7: Very clear point. There's identity to the cells that are 357 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: connected to the individual, and no two people have the 358 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 7: same identity. And then my idea is about understanding how 359 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 7: the cell work. Led me to the cell membrane, the 360 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 7: skin of the cell, and I say, where's the difference 361 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 7: between people? And what I recognized was on the surface 362 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 7: of the cells there are these protein antennas called receptors, receivers, 363 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 7: receptors in the skin of the cell. And I go, 364 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 7: look the human, same thing in the skin. What do 365 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 7: I have, eyes, ears, nose, tastes, touch, pain, temperature. I said, 366 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 7: these are receivers built into my skin to read the environment. 367 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 7: That's what it's all about. So I say, whoa on 368 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 7: the surface of the cells except for the red blood 369 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 7: cells on the surface of our cells as a set 370 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 7: of antennas that is unique to each individual. No two 371 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 7: people share the same and these individual receptors are called 372 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 7: interesting enough, self receptors, self receptors. Well, right away, that 373 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 7: was pretty cool self receivers. And I go, well, what's 374 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 7: unique about it? I said, A protein receptor is an antenna. 375 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 7: It receives a signal. And I go, so what I said, 376 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 7: No two people receive the same identifying signal from the environment. 377 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 7: Each person is receiving their own signal. They used to say, well, 378 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 7: the signal is the receptors themselves, the proteins. I go no. No, 379 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 7: they misunderstood the receptors receive a signal, okay, and I 380 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 7: go So the signal is not in the cells, I 381 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 7: go no. And an interesting study by a former colleague 382 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 7: friend of mine, Cleve Baxter. He's a guy who developed 383 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 7: the advanced LIE detector techniques to read the electrical energy 384 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 7: of cells. 385 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: I hate to interrupt, but I actually think this is 386 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: a good time to take our break. Remember at the beginning, 387 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: I was telling you about the test with a man 388 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 3: and his sales and a test tube, and he was 389 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty miles away. This is the story 390 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: that's coming up next, So buckle your seatbelt. We'll be 391 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: right back. 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I'm Sandra Champlain 409 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: and we are exploring consciousness right now we're listening to 410 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: doctor Bruce Lipton, author of the Biology of Belief. Here's 411 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: the next story of the experiment and. 412 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 7: An interesting study by a former colleague friend of mine, 413 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 7: Cleve Baxter. He's a guy who developed advanced slide detector 414 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 7: techniques to read the electrical energy of sales. Well, he 415 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 7: was working with an astronaut, Brian O'Leary, and what they 416 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 7: did is they put some Brian O'Leary cells in a 417 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 7: test tube and they moved it three hundred and fifty 418 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 7: miles away. At that site, there's a recording device in 419 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 7: the test tube to record the electrical activity of the cells. 420 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: So the experiment runs where the test tube with Brian 421 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 7: Sells there three hundred and fifty miles away, but where 422 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 7: Brian is. They set up a screen split screen where 423 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 7: they have live Brian on one side of the screen 424 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 7: and the electrical activity of the cells three hundred and 425 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 7: fifty miles away on the other side of the screen. 426 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 7: And what they show is the most amazing thing in 427 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 7: the world. And what was that is that if Brian 428 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 7: elicited an emotional response instantaneously, the cells three hundred and 429 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 7: fifty miles away activated their electrical activity, and all of 430 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 7: a sudden, it says, well, wait a minute, what is 431 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 7: this experiment show? And it goes, well, Brian cells have 432 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 7: his receptors on it, his antennas, so it didn't make 433 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 7: a difference if Brian Sells were in Brian's body or 434 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 7: Brian cells were in attest to. The significance is very 435 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 7: clear is that there was a communication simultaneously that affected 436 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 7: both Brian and his cells at exactly the same time. 437 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 7: But three hundred and fifty miles apart. The point is, 438 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 7: then where's Brian. Well, he's on the screen. Yeah, but 439 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 7: Brian sells her three hundred fifty eight miles over there. 440 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 7: I go that, how did Brian cells activate with Brian 441 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 7: in the answer? Ready, Brian's identity is a broadcast. Wherever 442 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 7: Brian cells are, they'll receive that identity. And that's why 443 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 7: the cells three hundred and fifty miles away we're receiving 444 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 7: on their antennas. The same signal that Brian sells in 445 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 7: his body was leaving on their antennas. And the most 446 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 7: important fact was, Oh my god, identity broadcast that makes 447 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 7: us unique is not in the cells, it's in the field. 448 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 7: And then the word field, let's just bring that in 449 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 7: because that's quantum physics. And I go, what is field? 450 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 7: It's an energy environment. All of us are sitting in 451 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 7: a field right now. I mean wherever I am, wherever 452 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 7: you are. Guess what in your area right now, there 453 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 7: are television broadcasts and radio broadcasts, and cell phone broadcasts 454 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 7: and even solar energy in the field that you're sitting in. 455 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 7: It's not visible, but if you have a cell phone 456 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 7: and the energy in the field comes to the cell phone. 457 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 7: You can talk on it. Okay. Well, the point about 458 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 7: it is simply this. Consider the body as a television set. 459 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 7: And what you're saying now is the Bruce Show. Well, 460 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 7: when you're watching a TV, is the show in the TV? 461 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 7: I go no, No, the show is picked up by 462 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 7: the broadcast played through the TV, the Bruce Show. And 463 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 7: I go, yeah, this is the Bruce TV. Okay, the 464 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: show that is playing is a broadcast. And then comes 465 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 7: the most important inside right there, you're ready. It goes 466 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 7: you're watching the TV and the TV breaks and I say, yeah, 467 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 7: the TV's dead, now working anymore? The most important question 468 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 7: is did the broadcast die when the TV broke? I 469 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 7: go no, what I mean? I say, well, you can 470 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 7: get another TV plug it in turn on when when 471 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 7: you tune in to the station shows back on the air. 472 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 7: Oh my god, we can't die because we are the broadcast, 473 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 7: not the TV. And the significance is, well, the body 474 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 7: TV can break, the broadcast is always there. And if 475 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 7: a future embryo shows up with the same antennas that 476 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 7: are on yourselves right now, you're back. But in a 477 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 7: new TV. I go what does it mean? I say, well, 478 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 7: does it have to be male or female. I said, no, 479 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 7: that's the TV. That's not the broadcast. Separate the broadcast 480 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: from the TV for a moment. You're the broadcast. The 481 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 7: TV is what you play through. Does it make a 482 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 7: difference if this TV is male or female? No, ready 483 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 7: doesn't make a difference. If this is white, brown, black, red, yellow, Nope, 484 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 7: that's the TV. And all of a sudden I have 485 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 7: to say, oh my god, we have been looking at 486 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 7: the TV and considering that's the entity, when in truth, 487 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 7: that's the player of the entity. And this is why 488 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 7: let's say Brian O'Leary sells, they all have the same 489 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 7: antennas on them. Right, it's like two TVs, three hundred 490 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 7: and fifty miles apart, same broadcast, hits both TVs at 491 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 7: the same time. And the part that just blew my 492 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 7: mind was, oh my god, I'm not in here. I 493 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 7: am playing through here. And the first thing that happened 494 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 7: in my life because I was not spiritual. I mean 495 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 7: I was a science guy. Okay, no spirituality. But the 496 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 7: moment I understood this, it's like I blew my mind 497 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 7: changed my life. My whole world turned upside down. Why 498 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 7: because I realized something that you're ready for this. You 499 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 7: cannot die. What do you mean? I say, you're not 500 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 7: even in here? The TV can go and I but 501 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 7: you are broadcast. That is always here. Now you have 502 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 7: to recognize this. I didn't go through any devotional like 503 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 7: go to some religious church or temple or something and 504 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 7: learn all this. I said, no, I had nothing to 505 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 7: do with it. I didn't even go to those things. 506 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 7: I'm in a laboratory looking at cells and a Patriot 507 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 7: dish and understanding the nature inside this dish. So what 508 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 7: does that mean? I said, Well, how long did it 509 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 7: take me to go from non spiritual to spiritual? And 510 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 7: here's the joke, about a minute? What do you mean? 511 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 10: I go, Well, the point was it's a mechanism, and 512 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 10: you could see this mechanism, and it becomes profoundly important 513 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 10: because if you understand this mechanism. 514 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 7: The first thing that I realized and a weight lifted 515 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 7: off my shoulder. I got so light. I was like, 516 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 7: oh my god, freedom, I said, what was the freedom? 517 00:33:54,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 7: You ready? No fear of death? Why? I realized, the 518 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 7: bodies get come and go, but the field is always here. 519 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 7: I'm always here. A very important question from science Bruce's 520 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 7: brain came up, and the answers came from fifty trillion 521 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 7: cells inside my body. I always joke, I always call 522 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 7: them Jewish comedian cells. And I say why, I said, 523 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 7: I asked them a question, and the cells responded with 524 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 7: a question. I asked the question, why have a body 525 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 7: and a spirit? Why not just be a spirit? And 526 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 7: the fifty trillion cells welled up and answered with this 527 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 7: profound question, Bruce, if you're just a spirit, what does 528 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 7: chocolate taste like? I almost say some Oh, oh my god. 529 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 7: This mechanism smell, tastes, sight, sound, feelings, emotions. I go, 530 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 7: this is a machine. It creates the chemistry of the 531 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 7: experiences or the inputs. And I say, and what does 532 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 7: the brain do? It translates it into vibrations. So if 533 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 7: I see a landscape, does that mean there's a screen 534 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 7: in the back of my head with a picture playing inside? 535 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 7: And said, no, it's translated into an energy broadcast. So site, sound, smell, taste, Well, 536 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 7: they might be physical things in this world. When they 537 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 7: enter the body, the receptors translate them into an energy 538 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 7: broadcast that goes up to the brain and the brain 539 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 7: reads the broadcast. Okay, so I said, wow. Then what 540 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 7: was the idea of having a body, And the answer 541 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 7: was this, to sense and experience the world. I could 542 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 7: have an intellectual discussion love. Let's write it a fifty 543 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 7: page essay love and what if you never experience love? 544 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 7: And I go, it's just an intellectual exercise. I go, 545 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 7: but what if you experience in love? I say, Oh 546 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 7: my god. It becomes a physiological expression that can blow 547 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 7: your mind. Oh my god. Then my body is a 548 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 7: translator of an environment and translates it into vibrational energy. 549 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 7: And you're ready. This is the cool part. Right When 550 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 7: I want to read a brain activity, we put wires 551 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 7: on a person's head. It's called electro and cephalograph. I 552 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 7: can read your brain activity. Oh yeah, my brain activity 553 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 7: is working inside my head. There's a new device that 554 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 7: reads brain activity, a newer one, not electro in cephalograph. 555 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 7: It's called magneto in cephalograph. I go, what's different, I said, 556 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 7: They both read brain function. I go, yeah, but here's 557 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 7: the difference. You're ready. Magneto and cephalgraph probe doesn't touch 558 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 7: your head. It's out here. I'm reading your brain function. 559 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 7: There's a very logical moment when you get this right now, 560 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 7: and as what. Your thoughts are not contained in your head. 561 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 7: Your thoughts are broadcasts back into the environment. Where's the 562 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 7: broadcast going? You're ready to The original energy field that 563 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 7: was playing me is now modified by my life experiences. 564 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 7: An energy signal was coming in my life experience is 565 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 7: an energy signal and sends it back. And I go, 566 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 7: so what does that mean? Oh my god. The whole 567 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 7: idea of this is karma. And what the hell is karma? 568 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 7: I said, you came in with a vibration, lived your 569 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 7: life experiences sent vibrations back to source. Guess what you 570 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 7: altered source. You're not the same energy you were before 571 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 7: you came into the body. What does that mean? I said, Well, 572 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 7: your life experiences are going back and adjusting your field. Okay, 573 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 7: let's stop for one second because a definition is probably 574 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 7: Handley right here and quantum physics. I mentioned the word 575 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 7: field is the energy around us. Okay, so let me 576 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 7: give a definition field invisible moving forces that influence the 577 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 7: physical world. Go oh, ready, spirit invisible moving forces that 578 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 7: influence the physical world, and go oh, it is quantum 579 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 7: physics has provided the whole foundation of spirituality. That is 580 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 7: an energy field that is playing and that we are 581 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 7: receivers of that field, and then we have our life experiences, 582 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 7: and our experiences are translated into a field which is 583 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 7: sent back to the source. I'm a spiritual entity, but 584 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 7: I'm here to do what experience the world. But the 585 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 7: source coming in is directing me in the movement on 586 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 7: my planet. The source coming in is moving me. So 587 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 7: here's an analogy. Let's work on this analogy. I can't 588 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 7: go to Mars, but I want to know what Mars 589 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 7: is like. Well, I can't send it, youman up? So 590 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 7: what do I send up? It's called the Mars Rover. 591 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 7: It looks like a fancy go card with antennas and 592 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 7: stuff all over, and I go, so what. So there's 593 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 7: a guy at NASA. He sends a signal to the 594 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 7: Mars rover. What does he do? He calls it to 595 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 7: drive here, drive there. He's moving it around. I said, 596 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 7: what's happening. As the rover is moving around, it has 597 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: sensory receptors temperature, light, sound, smell, face, just like a human. 598 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 7: And as it's moving around, the sensory receptors are picking 599 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,959 Speaker 7: up the environmental information. And guess what, sending it back 600 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 7: with the same antenna to the guy at NASA, so 601 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 7: the guy at NASA is not on Mars, but has 602 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 7: the experience of being on Mars. 603 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with doctor Bruce Lipton. 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Wrong, 623 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 7: You're born into heaven. You came here to create. Yep, 624 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 7: you came here to experience. I said, what is heaven? Well, 625 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 7: that's your personal creation. I ask anybody, hey, what's your 626 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 7: vision of heaven? You give me a definition. I asked 627 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 7: the guy next to you, what's their vision? To get 628 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 7: a different vision. Vision is a creation. Earth is the 629 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 7: place where you do that creation. We came here to 630 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 7: create and to experience. And when you're dead, the machine's gone, 631 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 7: but the experiences are still in the broadcast. When I 632 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 7: first understood this, now I'm a broadcast, I'm an energy. 633 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 7: I'm a frequency that I play through this system that 634 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 7: I come here and manifest life experiences built in every organism, 635 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 7: from bacterity humans is something called the biological imperative. It's 636 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 7: biology's term for a recognition that in every organism there 637 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 7: is a drive to survive. I don't care how primitive 638 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 7: that organism is. A bacterium, I said, you try and 639 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 7: kill a bacterium. The bacterium will do every maneuver possible 640 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 7: in its repertoile behavior every maneuver possible to do what 641 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 7: stay alive? So the biological imperative is the mechanism's idea 642 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 7: to be aware of threats, because then the biological imperative 643 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 7: is to keep you alive. So to make it work, 644 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 7: then the nervous system is designed to observe any potential 645 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 7: threat that's out there in the world. Well, what's the fear. Well, 646 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 7: if it threatens, then I could die. Now wait, what 647 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 7: if I come to the realization that I can't die, Well, 648 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 7: then the fear doesn't exist anymore. And that was the 649 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 7: evariance of lightness. I shut off the damn mechanism that 650 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 7: was watching everything every minute and listening and seeing and 651 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 7: hearing anything that would threaten to me. That's a lot 652 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 7: of energy that you're using every day without you consciously aware. 653 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 7: It's just operating in the background. The moment I lost 654 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 7: the fear of death, I also lost the need to 655 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 7: keep that machine running to make me aware of threats. 656 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 7: It doesn't mean I'm not aware of the everyday scanning 657 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 7: of the entire world looking for the threat. That's what stopped. 658 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 7: So what significance was I got lighter, I had more 659 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 7: energy all of a sudden a burst of energy aware 660 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 7: to comprise. I had been using this energy all of 661 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 7: the time to scan the world for things that threatened me. 662 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 7: I let go of the threat. The scanner shuts off 663 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 7: the amount of energy that I was using. Boom came 664 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 7: right back, and all of a sudden, I had all 665 00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 7: this energy. And yes, it's the fear that compromises our life. 666 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 7: Fear is a stressor. Fear shuts off the growth and 667 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 7: maintenance of the body. Fear shuts off the immune system. 668 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 7: Fear means something is threatening you and it's on the outside. 669 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 7: So what happens. Stress hormones shut off the gut, which 670 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 7: is all the processing. What is the consequence then, of 671 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 7: the stress moment. The first two things here are you're 672 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 7: shutting down the growth and maintenance of the body to 673 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 7: conserve energy. And there's a third issue. The conscious mind 674 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 7: is a slow processor. The hind brain is a superprocessor, 675 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 7: a million times more powerful than the fore brain. So 676 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 7: when you're under threat, you don't want to use the 677 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 7: thinking it's too slow. You want to use the hind 678 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 7: brain fast. Now, there are three consequences of stress. One 679 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 7: shut down the growth and maintenance of the body. Two 680 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 7: shut down the immune system, and three shut down in 681 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 7: intelligence so that you're running on reaction reflex, no thinking. Okay, 682 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 7: well that was not a problem if you were being 683 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 7: chased by a saber tooth tiger, because ten to fifteen 684 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 7: minutes later, if you made it, then the stress hormones 685 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 7: stopping you go back to life again. In today's world, 686 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 7: stress is twenty four seven three sixty five. We are 687 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 7: inhibiting our growth and our immune system every day by 688 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 7: the stresses that we're living under. But all of a sudden, 689 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 7: I realized I can't die. I'm immortal, and with that 690 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 7: immortal character in my mind, the fear of those threats disappear. 691 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 7: I don't want to die, but I'm also not on edge. 692 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 7: And my whole world changed because now I understand, to 693 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 7: my scientific point of view, the truth and here it is. 694 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 7: You don't die and go to heaven. You were born 695 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 7: into heaven. You came here to live or create, You 696 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 7: came here to experience things. And then I realized how 697 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 7: many people don't have life experiences. Why because they're living 698 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 7: in fear. They're behind the wall. I'm back here, I'm 699 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 7: protecting myself, but they're not living here. And as a result, 700 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 7: their lives don't have the joy of recognizing while I'm here, 701 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 7: I'm a creator. If I'm a creator, then why not 702 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 7: I create what heaven? Because heaven is everybody's personal creation. 703 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 7: I am now owning my creative character. I do the 704 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 7: things that I feel that are in harmony with my life, 705 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 7: and I disregard any of those things that are causing disharmony. 706 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 7: And therefore I am honored to say I've been living 707 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 7: on heaven for about thirty or forty years now, and 708 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 7: it works and is great because joy is what I 709 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 7: have every day. The fear stuff might show up, but 710 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 7: it also goes away very quickly because I don't hold 711 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 7: on to it anymore. I took back the power, and 712 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 7: this is for me, the most important message to give people. 713 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 7: Max Plank and others said, the mind is the matrix 714 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 7: of all matter, meaning the mind is creating this, We 715 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 7: are creating. That is the established rule number one of 716 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 7: the most valid science on the planet of quantum physics. 717 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 7: And I say to people, well, if your consciousness is 718 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 7: creating this world, how's that working out? Yeah? And people go, 719 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,479 Speaker 7: it's not really working out. All this cool problems here, 720 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 7: and I go, are you creating them? Are you playing 721 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 7: a program? Everybody is The brain is a computer. In 722 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 7: the old days, you go to the store by a 723 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 7: brand new computer, bring it home, plug it in, push start, 724 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 7: The screen boots up, and I say, okay, now do 725 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 7: something with your computer. Now I can't. I say, oh, 726 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 7: not until I put some programs into the computer. Can 727 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 7: I use it? If there's no program, there's nothing you 728 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 7: can do. So it turns out the human brain gets 729 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 7: programmed in the first seven years of life by observing 730 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 7: other people and downloading their programs. Well, there's a problem 731 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 7: because the people we observe are not living in health 732 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 7: and harmony. And then we download their behavior and we 733 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 7: don't live in health and harmony. And they say genes 734 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 7: were passed during this, no behavior was passed. So the 735 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 7: relevance is to recognize that ninety five percent of the day, 736 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 7: and this is absolute science, the behaviors that we play 737 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 7: do not come from our creative wishes, desires, conscious mind, 738 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 7: the spirit. Ninety five percent of the day, the behavior 739 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 7: is coming direct out of the programs direct play program 740 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 7: And the problem with it is twofold number one. We 741 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 7: downloaded the programs from other people, So we downloaded their 742 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 7: good stuff, and we downloaded their bad stuff. Okay, at 743 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 7: the same time. And number two, and this is the 744 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 7: critical part. When we are playing our programs from our subconscious, 745 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,439 Speaker 7: the reason we're playing the programs is we're thinking, which 746 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 7: means we're not paying attention. Paying attention means you look 747 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 7: out the eyes and look at like driving the car, 748 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 7: you're looking out the windshield. Okay, But thinking is not 749 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 7: looking out. Thinking is looking in. There's a thought it's inside. 750 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 7: So the moment you are thinking, you're not paying attention 751 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 7: to the outside. The conscious mind is observing the world. 752 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 7: But if the conscious mind is thinking, it's not observing. 753 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 7: The world is inside. But what if I'm driving the 754 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 7: car and all of a sudden I start thinking, Now 755 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 7: I'm not paying attention. Subconscious is autopilot. The moment you 756 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 7: are thinking, the behavior is controlled by subconscious. When you 757 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 7: are thinking, ninety five percent of the day, the behavior 758 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 7: is taken over by the programs, but you do not 759 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 7: see that behavior because you're thinking. And so whatever program 760 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 7: is playing, you're unaware of it. And so go back 761 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 7: to the programming period. Up to sixty percent of the 762 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 7: things we downloaded by observing mother, father, family, community, and downloading. 763 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 7: Up to sixty percent are disempowering or self sabotaging, or 764 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 7: beliefs that don't support us. So that means ninety five 765 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 7: percent of the day I'm thinking, then a sixty percent 766 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 7: of that day when the programs are playing, those sixty 767 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 7: percent are sabotaging me, and I don't see it. So 768 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 7: what do I see at the end of the day. 769 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 7: I see the result, but I didn't see my involvement. 770 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 7: And therefore the average person says, Oh, I'm a victim. 771 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 7: Things happen to me. I wanted to be healthy, successful, 772 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 7: have a great relationship. I wanted those things, but they're 773 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 7: not here, So it must be those people interfering with 774 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 7: my creation. Wake up, folks. You were running the show 775 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 7: the entire time, just unfortunately you were using ninety five 776 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 7: percent of the time to play the programs which have 777 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 7: dysfunctions in them. But during that ninety five percent of 778 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 7: the time, you do not observe the programs because you're 779 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,720 Speaker 7: the reason you're playing them is your conscious not paying attention. 780 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 7: This is what quantum physics has been trying to tell 781 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 7: you for a hundred years, and the science of epigenetics. 782 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 7: It is the biology of that, because epigenetics reveals that 783 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 7: your genes are controlled by your conscious mind, and all 784 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 7: of a sudden, that supports everything that physics said. Yeah, 785 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 7: biology now supports it. Why your mind, consciousness is adjusting 786 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 7: your genetics and your behavior. Well, this is exactly what 787 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 7: quite them physics was saying. But this is now a 788 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 7: biological mechanism. 789 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 3: We're coming to the end of our time together. So 790 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 3: I'm going to end Bruce Lipton there. You can find 791 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 3: out more about him at Bruce Lipton dot com. I 792 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 3: also recommend his interview on David Feruggio's show Dead Talks. 793 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 3: David also really cares about the grieving and loves exploring 794 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 3: the afterlife, and he's got some great guests. Check out 795 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 3: Dead Talks dot com. Don't forget to come visit me 796 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: at We Don'tdie dot com. You can join my Patreon club, 797 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 3: take a class, or attend our free Sunday gathering with 798 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 3: medium demonstration. 799 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 7: I want to. 800 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 3: Leave you with two great quotes. What your thoughts for 801 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 3: they become words. Watch your words for they become actions. 802 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 3: Watch your actions for they become habits. Watch your habits 803 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 3: for they become your character. Watch your character for it 804 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 3: becomes your destiny. That's by Gandhi, and as author Mike 805 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 3: Dooley says, thoughts become things, so choose the good ones. 806 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 3: There's so much more to us and then meets the eye. 807 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 3: I hope you've enjoyed this episode today and you practice 808 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 3: consciously creating your own thoughts and remember the experiment with 809 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 3: the astronaut. You are not your body or your cells 810 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 3: that might be in a test tube three hundred and 811 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: fifty miles away. You are the in between. You are 812 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 3: the everlasting, You are eternal and so much more. I'm 813 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 3: Sandra Champlain. 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