WEBVTT - Draft Show: Senior Bowl Preview 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:03.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:13.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Dallas 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:18.840 Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.400 news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines of 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:27.880 Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Emmitt Smith running back, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.760 and now your hosts David Hellman, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:42.080 and Kyle Yeoman's inside triple digits until the draft starts 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.480 ninety eight days away in Las Vegas. We're just about 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.080 to the weekend where players will report to Mobile, Alabama, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.519 and the Reese's Senior Bowl will be there as well 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.280 David Hellman and myself. But we are going to preview 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.320 that Senior Bowl today. Plenty of players, plenty to talk 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.840 about as we welcome you back into the Dallas Cowboys 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.880 dot Com Draft Shoe. Kyle Yeoman's alongside Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.160 and the great David Hellman. Fresh off of his national 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.400 championship win. You're still feeling it as it still has 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.319 it hitchy yet, Oh it's like it hit me. It 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.400 hit me before we won it. That's fair And now 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.040 I'm just basking in the glow of the greatest season 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.120 in college football history. What was your favorite part about it, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.200 if you could even have the game, or the season, 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:33.240 or the whole thing as a whole, just absolutely molly 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.319 wopping Alabama getting that monkey off of our back and 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:42.920 then I mean, Joe Burrow sixty touchdowns, six interceptions. It 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.679 I can't wrap my head all the way around all 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.760 of the stuff I loved about it. It was the 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.640 best ride of my entire life. It was pretty uh. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.720 And the thing is is you were on the bandwagon 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.400 from the get go, whereas a lot of people were 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.240 not necessarily on the bandway. I've been on the bandwagon. YEA, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.440 been on the bandwagon. You were the driver of the 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:09.080 long damn time coming. Man, it just felt really really good. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.280 I mean, I probably I didn't think they really had 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.160 a shot at it until they beat Bama and then 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.280 I was like, we might do this. This is this 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.560 is happening. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, up until that point, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.320 it was a lot of question marks around that team. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.680 You still didn't really necessarily know if Joe Burrow was 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.840 going to be the legendary college player that he ended 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.200 up being. Joe Burrow was a two hundred to one. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.400 You know, on my favorite stat he was a two 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.320 hundred to one favorite to win the Heisman before the season. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.000 You see the kid that's following him at LSU. Vegas 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.400 made him a sixteen to one favorite. Kid doesn't have 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.920 a chance. He's never He's played like thirty snaps in 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.360 his college career. But Vegas is like, we're not getting 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.600 owned like this again, We're not doing that lost, Joe Brady, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.320 that kid didn't have a chance. It's you know what, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.640 those are problems for the future, and when hey, half 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.440 of half of LSU's roster is now part of this 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.240 draft class, so we need to talk about that. But man, 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.000 just in my darkest moments, for the rest of my life, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.079 these memories will keep me warm. Delpit, Jefferson, Queen, is 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.480 it cushionberry? Is how you say it? Lloyd cushiony, cushionberry, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.320 Phillips Charles and like jeff said, Joe Brady all basically 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.679 going to the NFL. Did you throw Clyde in there? 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.040 I did not, actually dare I don't know if he's announced, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.440 but I would bet money that Calevan Chason is going 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.880 to go pro as well. I think Clyde announced yesterday 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.840 he did. I think he did. Calevan, I don't think 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.440 has made a formal announcement, but he's got till tomorrow. 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.640 Tomorrow is the deadline. I love that, underclassman. Yes, it 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.720 is Friday afternoon is the deadline. I just love that. Like, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.720 this is the Draft show, so I have an excuse 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.080 to be talking about this, like on a Cowboys on 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.200 a Cowboys podcast, it doesn't make a lot of sense 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.840 to just be gushing about LSU, but like, this is 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.640 the draft seeing half of their team is in the 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.000 draft now, so normally you're just beating your friends down 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.200 with LSU talk, but now it's the Draft show. Now 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.520 all of our listeners down with LSU talk, and y'all, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.640 I'm sorry. There were some people yesterday on the periscope 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.240 when you were on the break that we're saying, Dave, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.680 please talk about LSU, And then there were other people 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.680 that were saying, please don't, because I mean, aren't trying 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.800 to hear it. Yeah, I hadn't watched it on social. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.200 I'm done. I heard done with l Sean and RJ 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.480 over at the fan were mad at me. Yeah, I'm sorry, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.280 just abrasive over the top. You were mad at you obnoxious? Really, yes, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.960 you deserve afore and eighth season next year, and you 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.720 know what, I'd be fine with it, like it was 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.600 all worth it. I'll gladly make that trade. Like everybody 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.039 can come get their licks in and it won't change 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.919 anything about what happened this week. Gold Tigers, we need 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.479 we need an edo drop in the middle of this show. Gods, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.599 go Tigers. I'm happy you're here, I really am. I'm 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.599 really glad that you made the trip from the New 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:55.479 Orleans all the way back. Are you about to I 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.120 need that back in the break, so I'll show you 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:04.680 that much money from Scott down the hall. No, that's 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.480 not mine, so I need that back anyway. We'll see 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:08.960 a little bit of fact about the Star. There's just 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.680 a much a treasure chest and it's a really cool place. Yeah, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.159 it's all they're all hidden in the doors down low 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.760 down below. But we'll talk plenty of lsue. But one 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.320 thing that we definitely want to hit. Dan Bruegler, of course, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.719 former member of the Dallas Cowboys Draft Show, released his 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.000 second Mock Draft or Mock Draft two point zero. Was 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:31.720 it an update or was it an Okay, Well, he 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.760 released that earlier this week, and there were definitely some 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.240 high points at least in that that mock draft that 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.599 we definitely need to look at the Cowboys. Uh. It 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.040 was Grant Delpit that went to the Cowboys at seventeen 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.640 and then they went with and I'm gonna have to 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.480 have some help with this name. Is it Matta Bouque? 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.640 The ten or the opened out of A and m 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.080 I can open my text messages and get the pronunciation 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.480 because I messed it up on the radio yesterday. Let 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.640 me somebody, somebody gave me the pronunciation. I can go 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.640 find it. Okay, to you in a minute. I'm hearing 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.640 this name a lot, and it's obviously so early in 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.400 the draft process, but that is the fourth or fifth 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.680 time I have heard him linked to the Dallas Cowboys, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:17.000 and I am intrigued. Well, hey, if they're staying in 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:21.640 a four to three and which could be happening, okay, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.120 sat four three, which can happen if you look at him. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.680 He's six three three h three, but he plays some 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.839 one and plays some three techniques, so he can play 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.880 both defensive tackle positions for you, whatever you need. I 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.560 would say that he's a better run player than a 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.880 pass player right now, just kind of a masher in 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.520 there in the middle. But we've been asking them to 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.320 draft that player for years and I think he's a 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.000 good player. You know, I have a third round grade 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.920 on him. But you know, the Cowboys kind of picking 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.440 the middle around two. There's some other guys I like, 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.360 uh in that in that area. But look, there's not 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.800 a lot of fight about defensive. There's not a lot 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:58.960 of defense better than Neville Gallimore. Yeah, he's better now, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.240 I mean it depends what you want. I think rush 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.520 pastor and he's better than him. I think Gallimore is 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:08.280 a much better pass rusher thing than Ken which sacks 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.440 are always paramount, But like this team has struggled up 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.720 the middle against the run quite the last two seasons. Yeah, 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.240 so that's what I actually like Dane's pick. I think 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.960 Mattabique is. I think he's solid at both. I think 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.160 he's got the athleticism you want to pass rusher on 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.200 the D line, and I think he doesn't get bullied 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.640 even though he's only only three hundred pounds, because you 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.240 got you think you gotta be three thirty to be 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.400 tough at the line of scrimmage. But I think, I 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.000 think he's I think he's good. I got him as 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.320 a second round guy, and I think that'd be a 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.520 nice pick. Now, my grade isn't complete on Mattabek by 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.640 any stretch of the imagination, but I know Gallimore specifically. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.600 If we're talking about those two guys as a second 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.800 round pick, Gallimore moves laterally a lot more than Gallo 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.480 than Mattabik does. It seems like at least is a 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.920 heck of an athlete. He level digit tackles for loss 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.760 each of the last two years. He sacks the quarterback. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:01.000 I think, I think he is a much better athlete 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:09.120 and penetrator than is being portrayed by you couple of haters. No, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.520 not a hater at all. Like Mettibeguy's a fine player. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.520 I like Gallamore much better. In fact, in Dane's draft, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.840 Dane had him going thirty fourth. I believe I think 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.800 this week, I think Galatmore is gonna have a big week. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.160 Later on, we'll give a little Senior Bowl preview some 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.360 of the players and the kind of big names to 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.680 keep an eye on for next week. In Mobile. I 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.679 think Gallamore, I think you're what you're saying about him, Jeff, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.480 is his anchor is a problem. Yes, he's gonna get 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.560 mulled by double teams if he's asked to go play 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.600 the one technique position. That's gonna a couple of times 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.360 in the Big Twelve this year too. I think he's 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.439 going to dominate one on one pass rush drills in Mobile. Yeah, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.760 I mean, I think. I just think he's very hard 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.839 to buck. He's so quick, and that is speaking from 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.520 experience of going there like that is what steals the 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.679 show Immobile. You know you're not You're not going all 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.680 out in the scrimmage stuff. The game obviously is it's 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.240 almost Pro Bowl like in terms of the competition, but 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.120 the stuff you can see in the one on ones 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.040 wide receiver dB, but even more so is the pass 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:10.680 rushers against the offensive lineman. Another point that I saw 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.160 at least during the mock draft, they had a Jennings 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.400 not in the first two round Anthony Jennings out of Alabama, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.520 Obama not in the first two rounds. Does that kind 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.319 of surprise you or is that where you really kind 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.760 of thought he was. I have I'm pulling up my 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.400 notes here kind of on the fly. Here I have Jennings. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:29.800 I have him. I had to have him in the 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.520 second round. There have you seen other drafts having him 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.440 in kind of that middle second round right around the 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.680 fifties pick. He's weird because he kind of played everywhere. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.559 You know, he played everywhere in Alabama, and that's kind 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.520 of like you're asking a guy now, like he's gonna 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.920 come in and like he's purely gonna be like a 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.439 defensive tackle. Is he gonna play linebacker in some schemes 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.599 like Jennings, There's a lot of things Jennings can do 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.079 depending on what team. I think he keeps going back 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.640 to me like he's a guy who could play both sides. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.440 He'd rush with his hand to the ground as well 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.000 as standing up. What are we running here? And do 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.800 they need to know before go to the Senior Bowl 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.719 what they're running a four three or a three four. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.839 I don't think the Cowboys' new coaching staff is going 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.320 to mobile because a lot of them aren't even officially 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.040 in place yet. Mike McCarthy's still working on that. You've 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.160 seen some guys in and out of the building, but 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.920 there hasn't been anything in the way of official announcements 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.360 and Mike McCarthy is still putting his staff together, so 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.360 I know, you know, the scouts in the front office 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.040 will be there. I don't know how many of the 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.920 Cowboys coaches, if any, are actually going to make the trip, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:34.280 which I'm I'm fascinated and a little bit I guess frustrated, 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.600 thinking like, I don't even know what these guys are 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.120 looking for yet, because we don't know what their defense 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.720 is going to be. Are you prepared for a take? 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.640 I have a take? You always have a take. I 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.400 have a take? Is it a hot take or a 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.040 coal pake? Jeff doesn't He deals in att takes. No, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.000 it just takes. Okay, I'm glad the coaches won't be there. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.240 Why I think having a new coaching staff who has 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.800 earned or at least perceived to have earned, less trust 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.360 with the front office with Will McClay, Let the scouts 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.280 in Will McClay draft. Let them do it. Let's be honest. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:06.600 You need like a week here in the start to 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.440 figure out how to get from the cafeteria to your office. Anyway, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.800 It's so true, man, I like what you're saying. And 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.040 there's too many to me, there's too many coaches that 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.240 have had too much input, And none of these things 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.679 do we know to be fact. But we know Rod 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.200 Marnelli was a big Tristan Hill guy. We know that 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.520 Rod Marnelli was a big Malie Collins guy. Taco Charlton, 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.679 I think you hear different things. MALIEK. Collins was a 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.080 pretty good player for being pick sixty seven. I'm not 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.640 killing him. I'm just I'm just saying, I'm just linking 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.959 a coach to players he's got pull in the draft. No, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.400 it absolutely felt like Rod had a humongous influence, maybe 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.400 even more than you would prefer. And it just to 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.600 me that seems unstable really if you have guys who 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.360 are preparing for an entire year or in some cases 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.160 probably multiple years of watching players and getting ready to 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.720 rank them, and then you bring in coaches and their 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.360 opinions start altering where guys are on a draft board. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.560 I'm not a fan of it. So if it's going 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.800 to be left in the hands of scouts and you're 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.439 defacto GM, Will McClay signed me up well, And also 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.600 McCarthy in Green Bay, Ted Thompson kind of ran the show, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.800 and you wonder if McCarthy had those conversations with Stephen 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.839 and Jerry before he took the job. I could see 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.520 him getting involved. We're talking about offensive players. Doesn't really 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.200 feel like the Cowboys are probably going to be hyper 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.720 focused in on defense. You would put their first couple 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.000 of premium picks except for when they draft Rugs at seventeen. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.520 But yes, other than that, I was gonna ask that 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.440 question here in a minute, Randall, which real quick, Sorry, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.760 but I'm curious. I want to get back to this. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.760 We were talking about Justina. Thank you, I'll get it. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.920 It's too six, three, three or four. You're saying he 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.800 can do a little bit of everything. But I think 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.520 if we're talking about defensive tackle, and that's definitely an 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.240 early focal point, where do you put Tristan Hill in 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.280 that situation? Because as disappointed as you might be by 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.960 year one, he's still here. Yeah, I would pretend that 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.199 he's not. No, and I don't mean that like, I 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.960 don't mean like I'm cutting him today. I mean that 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.880 I would build my team. Like if you're building your 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.120 team saying, guys, we already have our starter at three technique, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.360 I would say, why what did you see from that? 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.079 Like you can hope for progression and you can hope 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.679 that he becomes that, but hopes a really bad strategy. Yes, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.160 So if the best player, or if you have a 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.280 good player available with one of your picks that you like, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.760 that's a three technique, then Tristan Hill will get in 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.840 where he fits in and the other guy's better, he'll play. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.080 And you think of Tristan Hill, I think we should 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.920 all think of him as a third round pick. I mean, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.120 he was still late in the second round. And how 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.920 many times do you probably where they had him graded? Yeah? Probably? 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.320 And then how many times did you go out of 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.000 your way to make things comfortable for a third round 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.440 pick that it just doesn't really happen in the NFL. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.440 We see third round pick sometimes get cut. That's a 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.880 good point. I just think of it, and you're right, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.480 that's totally fair. Is like, you want him to develop 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.280 and be capable of being your starting three technique. Probably 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.920 not a good idea to bank on it, but I 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.200 guess in my mind, I'm thinking, I'm thinking ahead. It 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.600 could be MALIEK. Collins, it could be somebody else. You 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.560 could sign a three technique free agent, have him pair 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.960 with Tristan Hill at the three and then draft a one, 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:06.200 although obviously the Cowboys don't do that very often slash 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:11.960 ever they might. Now I'm I really I want to 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.720 talk to these coaches and see what site sort of 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.920 insight we can glean from them about what they would 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.200 be willing to do in the draft. With them not 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.360 going to the Senior Bowl. And you mentioned that, and 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.960 that's not official by any means, they still could potentially 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.960 be going to the Bill, but with them at the 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.000 moment not going the Senior Bowl, let's just assume that 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.560 does that give an advantage for these scouts to get 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.480 such a headstart they've already been looking at it, like 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.960 Jeff said, for even a couple of years. Or is 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.040 that a disadvantage saying, hey, they're only going to have 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.280 about a month to look over these guys, and the 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.400 kind of reports that the scouts in the front office 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.840 has been able to comply. I think it's important to 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.360 remember the amount of legwork that the scouting staff does 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.200 on these guys, Like the Senior Bowls a fun chance 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.400 to get your measurables down right, check in on guys, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.360 get some phone numbers if you need them, and and 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.880 and it it makes a difference to see guys in person. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.200 But like the Cowboys have a scout who have been 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.200 who's been watching like everybody here for at least at 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.000 least four months, if not way longer than that. Um So, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.200 I don't know. I don't know that it helps them 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.760 that much. I think it's just a chance to cross 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.840 check and their head of it. In the Senior Bowl, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.680 a lot of these guys were guys who could have 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.400 potentially came out last year. So like they've been you know, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.760 they've checked off, you know, they've done a lot of 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.280 work on these guys. But I am fascinated by the 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.280 Senior Bowl because some of the positions that the Cowboys 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.120 need to you know, maybe can't take a look at. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.200 And then just in general, we've talked about some of 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.400 the storylines in the draft, quarterback and even the wide 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.280 receiver class, which is maybe the best in the history 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.840 of the world. Like I'm actually gonna backtrack from that 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.000 a little bit. I think there's a lot of good receivers. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.800 I think when my guests would be when we compare 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.360 this to twenty fourteen years from now, it's not going 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:55.840 to be better than that. I think it'll be the 0:15:55.880 --> 0:16:00.920 best top twenty wide receivers. Yes, Like at the very 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.400 tip is how many guys are you willing to bank? 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:08.440 Are gonna be legitimate? Fourteen was disgusting? Who wasn't? Who 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:13.680 was in fourteen? Mike Evans, O'Dell Watkins, Watkins was there? 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:19.320 Count Hopkins? Fourteen? Let's pull it up? Yeah, I got you, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.880 I got you, buddy, because there it was silly, Sammy Watkins, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:30.360 Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Brandon Cooks, Kelvin, Benjamin Marquis, Lead, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.360 Jordan Matthews, Paul Richardson starting to not be as impressive, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:38.479 Davante Adams, there we go, Cody Latimer, Alan Robinson, Jarvis Landry. Yeah, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.880 uh you're not. It could definitely. I think it's deeper. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.360 I think it is deeper. I think there's ten guys 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.560 in this receiver class that are gonna be good NFL players, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.960 And I think there's something for everybody. Like if you 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.840 need a slot guy, you're gonna have it. If you 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:56.760 need a big guy, just get a big slot. There's 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.720 a lot of it's very funny, and I'm actually starting 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.800 to kind of find a few guys in the tight 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.440 end class that I like a little bit to get there. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.080 So I'm like starting to find some guys there. You 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.479 found some tiny schools, didn't you Tiny schools they get 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:14.840 a bounce house, you like the guy Absolutely silly. We 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.880 mentioned it. The underclassmen deadline is tomorrow, so there's even 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.880 another day for guys to figure out what they're doing. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.240 But these are just underclassmen coming out. Ceedee Lamb Oklahoma, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.600 Jerry Judy Alabama, Henry Ruggs Alabama, T Higgins Clemson, Lavisca 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.639 Chennault who was like my early favorite dude before the 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.960 season even started. Jalen Raiger from TCU, Justin Jefferson l 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.080 s U, kJ Hammler. I know there's a lot of 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.320 people in Cowboys Twitter that are big fans of Hay 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.960 out of Penn State. Dud's a bore. Oh my goodness, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.200 Lynn Bowden junior, who was my pet Cat of all 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:52.640 pet Cats quarterback running back receiver Donovan People's Jones. That's 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.840 not that's not even everybody. There's nineteen underclassmen receivers coming 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.840 out the Senior Bowl wide receiver group that we'll talk 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.680 about here in a little bit is so stacked that 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.360 you're sitting there going okay. So there were guys who 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.800 got left off of the Senior Bowl, like they just 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.440 didn't make the cut because they can only take a 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.560 certain amount of people. Mims, Colin Johnson, Juwan Jennings. These 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:16.480 are all Senior Bowl guys. This is the Minnesota series. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.760 Tyler Johnson, Wow, didn't make the Senior Bowl. I was 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.080 all the way in Florida. I didn't know Clay Chase, Claypool, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.600 the Notre Dame receiver was going to Mobile. That's exciting, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.840 It's it's it's kind of deep. That's good man. You 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.120 know what I need to I need to get off 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.720 of this Henry Rugs train because there's gonna be there's 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.919 gonna be a stud there in the third round Michael 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.920 Gallop style, and you won't find a safety or a 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.240 defensive tackle or even maybe maybe even cornerback. Dries up 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.520 a little bit the further down you go, like, that's 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.840 gonna run a four flat and then somebody's gonna accidentally 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.240 take him before they take Cede Lamb, and you're gonna 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.080 pick Lamb at seventeen. Well, you can also see just 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.680 off of Dane has been putting out there in mock 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.240 drafts and everything, I mean, safety secondary is premium in 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.400 this draft, it's not a very deep class. It's very 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.239 top heavy, but it's not a top heavy as receivers are, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:02.840 but the receivers still have some depth to it. You 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.080 could get a receiver not even in the third round. Dave, 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.520 I would stretch it to say, fourth or fifth round, 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.840 got guy that could be in there and legitimately contribute. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.800 I think I agree with you, but I always have 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.800 to see him well, I lean to. I mean, of 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.280 course you can get lucky Dak Prescott was a fourth 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.359 round pick. But it's I always say, it's only I 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.280 think it's only reasonable to expect like your first three 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.520 picks to be starters. After that, it's kind of a crapshoot. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.000 I think. I think, yes, absolutely, you expect third round 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.560 players to be starters. It's a lot I hope at 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.600 the very least run pick if you're picked, if you're 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.159 picked in the top one hundred in today's NFL, with 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.160 how much these guys get ready for the league before 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.440 they even declare, then I think it's reasonable to hope 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.960 you can start. MALIEK. Collins did it, We mentioned him. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.560 Michael Gallup was a Day one starter as pick eighty one. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.920 I know if I thought, man, Cheeto, Well, Cheeto didn't 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.920 start immediately, but he was hurt during his rookie training camp. 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.720