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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider

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Speaker 1: news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines of

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Speaker 1: Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Emmitt Smith running back,

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Speaker 1: and now your hosts David Hellman, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's inside triple digits until the draft starts

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Speaker 1: ninety eight days away in Las Vegas. We're just about

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Speaker 1: to the weekend where players will report to Mobile, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and the Reese's Senior Bowl will be there as well

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Speaker 1: David Hellman and myself. But we are going to preview

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Speaker 1: that Senior Bowl today. Plenty of players, plenty to talk

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Speaker 1: about as we welcome you back into the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Shoe. Kyle Yeoman's alongside Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner,

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Speaker 1: and the great David Hellman. Fresh off of his national

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Speaker 1: championship win. You're still feeling it as it still has

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Speaker 1: it hitchy yet, Oh it's like it hit me. It

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Speaker 1: hit me before we won it. That's fair And now

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Speaker 1: I'm just basking in the glow of the greatest season

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Speaker 1: in college football history. What was your favorite part about it,

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Speaker 1: if you could even have the game, or the season,

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Speaker 1: or the whole thing as a whole, just absolutely molly

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Speaker 1: wopping Alabama getting that monkey off of our back and

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Speaker 1: then I mean, Joe Burrow sixty touchdowns, six interceptions. It

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Speaker 1: best ride of my entire life. It was pretty uh.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is you were on the bandwagon

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Speaker 1: been on the bandwagon. You were the driver of the

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Speaker 1: long damn time coming. Man, it just felt really really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I probably I didn't think they really had

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Speaker 1: I was like, we might do this. This is this

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Speaker 1: is happening. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, up until that point,

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Speaker 1: it was a lot of question marks around that team.

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Speaker 1: You still didn't really necessarily know if Joe Burrow was

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Speaker 1: going to be the legendary college player that he ended

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Speaker 1: up being. Joe Burrow was a two hundred to one.

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Speaker 1: You know, on my favorite stat he was a two

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Speaker 1: hundred to one favorite to win the Heisman before the season.

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Speaker 1: You see the kid that's following him at LSU. Vegas

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Speaker 1: made him a sixteen to one favorite. Kid doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a chance. He's never He's played like thirty snaps in

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Speaker 1: his college career. But Vegas is like, we're not getting

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Speaker 1: owned like this again, We're not doing that lost, Joe Brady,

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Speaker 1: that kid didn't have a chance. It's you know what,

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Speaker 1: those are problems for the future, and when hey, half

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Speaker 1: of half of LSU's roster is now part of this

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Speaker 1: draft class, so we need to talk about that. But man,

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Speaker 1: just in my darkest moments, for the rest of my life,

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Speaker 1: these memories will keep me warm. Delpit, Jefferson, Queen, is

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Speaker 1: it cushionberry? Is how you say it? Lloyd cushiony, cushionberry,

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Speaker 1: Phillips Charles and like jeff said, Joe Brady all basically

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Speaker 1: going to the NFL. Did you throw Clyde in there?

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Speaker 1: I did not, actually dare I don't know if he's announced,

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow is the deadline. I love that, underclassman. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: is Friday afternoon is the deadline. I just love that. Like,

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Speaker 1: to be talking about this, like on a Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys podcast, it doesn't make a lot of sense

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Speaker 1: to just be gushing about LSU, but like, this is

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Speaker 1: with LSU talk, but now it's the Draft show. Now

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Speaker 1: all of our listeners down with LSU talk, and y'all,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There were some people yesterday on the periscope

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Speaker 1: when you were on the break that we're saying, Dave,

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Speaker 1: please talk about LSU, And then there were other people

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Speaker 1: all worth it. I'll gladly make that trade. Like everybody

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Speaker 1: anything about what happened this week. Gold Tigers, we need

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Speaker 1: we need an edo drop in the middle of this show. Gods,

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Speaker 1: go Tigers. I'm happy you're here, I really am. I'm

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Speaker 1: that much money from Scott down the hall. No, that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of fact about the Star. There's just

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Speaker 1: a much a treasure chest and it's a really cool place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: former member of the Dallas Cowboys Draft Show, released his

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Speaker 1: second Mock Draft or Mock Draft two point zero. Was

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Speaker 1: high points at least in that that mock draft that

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Speaker 1: we definitely need to look at the Cowboys. Uh. It

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Speaker 1: was Grant Delpit that went to the Cowboys at seventeen

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Speaker 1: have some help with this name. Is it Matta Bouque?

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Speaker 1: find it. Okay, to you in a minute. I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: and I am intrigued. Well, hey, if they're staying in

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Speaker 1: I like Gallamore much better. In fact, in Dane's draft,

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Speaker 1: to me like he's a guy who could play both sides.

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Speaker 1: He'd rush with his hand to the ground as well

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Speaker 1: as standing up. What are we running here? And do

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Speaker 1: they need to know before go to the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: thinking like, I don't even know what these guys are

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Speaker 1: Let's start things off with Jeffrey Sheeter. He says, I

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Speaker 1: know it's early, but who are some of the pet

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Speaker 1: cats for you individuals? If any I'll start pet cat?

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Speaker 1: Is it a tight end from a small sit, it's not. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know you can have multiple pet cats. Sure, I

470
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Speaker 1: believe that you can. If you see a guy who's

471
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Speaker 1: not being talked about enough and the draft orld that

472
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Speaker 1: you can rescue and make him you're a pet cat.

473
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Speaker 1: You can rescue that player. Mine is a Meek Robertson.

474
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Speaker 1: He's a cornerback from Louisiana Tech. He is about five

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Speaker 1: eight and a half, maybe he'll come in at five

476
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Speaker 1: to nine. We have fingers crossed for that. Fourteen interceptions

477
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: in three years, and you can see it on tape.

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Speaker 1: You see his zone instincts, his ability to move, He's

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Speaker 1: got good range and he can cover in man. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna get big bodied by you know, the Michael Pittman's

481
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Speaker 1: of the world, who are huge guys, like he's gonna

482
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Speaker 1: get big bodied by those guys. But he's got a

483
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Speaker 1: little Jordan Lewis to his game. And you see the

484
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Speaker 1: ball finds him. The ball finds him, he will go

485
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Speaker 1: who get involved in tackle a little bit, trying to

486
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Speaker 1: punch the ball out. But look, we've been talking about

487
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: getting turnovers for years. Fourteen interceptions in three years, and

488
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: you can see him play both man and zone and

489
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: look comfortable doing it. So a Meek Robertson not gonna

490
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Speaker 1: be a Singer Bowl guy, but he is. Really he's

491
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Speaker 1: a tiny guy. It's my pet cat earlier on Louisiana

492
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Speaker 1: Tech cornerback. If you get a chance to watch him play,

493
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Speaker 1: go do it because he's awesome. Tore up the conference

494
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Speaker 1: USA for a number of years, absolutely, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's like a yeah, I guess

496
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Speaker 1: it is. Okay, that's a good sense of compliment. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: it's not like I tore up the SEC for multiple years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, fine, okay, but yeah, just because you didn't

499
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Speaker 1: play in the SEC. CO turnovers turnovers pick is impressive

500
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Speaker 1: no matter what league you're in. Yeah's next pet Cat.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw Actually you already named him Katie because your

502
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Speaker 1: guy couldn't handle him. I'll throw up Michael Pittman. They

503
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Speaker 1: didn't play against each other. Reference. It's like, man, I

504
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Speaker 1: didn't catch the laptech game. But if you're telling me

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Speaker 1: that that happened, I'm with you. Yeah, I was just

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Speaker 1: referencing the Godzilla of wide receivers. Yeah, but the Godzilla

507
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Speaker 1: of wide receivers doesn't move like a godzilla. Michael Pittman

508
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Speaker 1: like gets No, there's no hype around a USC receiver

509
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Speaker 1: who had one hundred catches almost thirteen hundred yards in

510
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Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns. And maybe it's because it took him

511
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Speaker 1: the full four years to sort of become that player,

512
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Speaker 1: and he never had a stat line anything like that.

513
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Speaker 1: He just kind of got better and better as he went,

514
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: but the finished product from USC, I think Michael Pittman,

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Speaker 1: for a guy who's six three six four, moves like

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Speaker 1: a guy who's six one six two wow, and does

517
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Speaker 1: a lot of the things that you really value in

518
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Speaker 1: wide receivers, whether it's go get the ball in the air,

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Speaker 1: whether it's track the ball over the shoulder, the ease

520
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Speaker 1: of his movements. So so far are the guys I've

521
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Speaker 1: watched because for me, pet Kat is like I didn't

522
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: hear people really hyping a guy up and then I

523
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: watched them one oh, which for me, that was Michael Pittman.

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00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: It's funny because if USC football is good, then they're

525
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Speaker 1: gonna be like the epicenter of college football. We saw that,

526
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Speaker 1: you know, way back with Reggie Bush blah blah blah.

527
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: But they're not good. They're not good. And when you're

528
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Speaker 1: not that great and you're stuck out on the West

529
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Speaker 1: Coast playing games at nine, ten, eleven, twelve o'clock Central

530
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Speaker 1: and Eastern time, you get lost in the shuffle, which

531
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Speaker 1: is I know there were a lot of people that

532
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Speaker 1: thought he deserved to win the bullet and a coff Award,

533
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Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised to hear that he's graceful. Michael

534
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Speaker 1: Pittman is a very graceful player because you lightwood. Jeff

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Speaker 1: said that he doesn't move like he's you know, a

536
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Speaker 1: little bit smaller. When you see it, you're just like, Okay,

537
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: he's standing over this cornerback right now, and you think

538
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be kind of a slower than he is.

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00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: His speed is going to matter. Can you go in

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Speaker 1: the end of a jump ball? Oh my god? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's his probably his best trade, I would say,

542
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: But it's also extremely reliable, as Jeff mentioned, hundred one catches.

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00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and there were times when you watch on

544
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Speaker 1: tape where he's kind of like in the scramble drill

545
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: working back to the sideline to build the quarterback out

546
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Speaker 1: because of play had gone wrong at USC, which happened

547
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: a lot this year. So, like, I mean, it was

548
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 1: a very reliable guy, and I think he could make

549
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Speaker 1: an impact immediately I mentioned him at the top of

550
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Speaker 1: the show. I'll just stick with him. I want to.

551
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: I want to find some corners and some safeties that

552
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: I love, But right now I'm just enamored with Lynn

553
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Bowden Junior. The Kentucky everything. He's a wide receiver who

554
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: had to play emergency quarterback most of this season, and

555
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: nobody could do anything with him. I love his contact

556
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: balance is incredible. I love the way he runs. I

557
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: love the way he sheds tackles, his power. Like he

558
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: doesn't really look like a receiver at all. He looks

559
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: more like a running back. I think you could do

560
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: a lot of really fun stuff with him like he

561
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he can do all the traditional receiver stuff,

562
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: but he could play some running back for you. He

563
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: could play some wildcat. He would be so much fun

564
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: for anybody to have on offense. I don't know that

565
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: he would be there for the Cowboys all the way

566
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Speaker 1: at pick fifty one. Yeah, but he's a hell of

567
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: a football player. Not in terms of like a comparison,

568
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: but in terms of usage. I mean, the two names

569
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: that come to mine are Taysom Hill, the way he's

570
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: used to do everything in New Orleans. That's a point.

571
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Speaker 1: But also I think Dane had compared him to Braxton Miller,

572
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: which kind of he kind of flamed out in the league.

573
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: But remember Braxton Miller's quarterback days. It's kind of see

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Speaker 1: the same type of thing where you can run it

575
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Speaker 1: to him, but he's got a little more weight on

576
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: him than Braxton Miller's. Likexton Diller's flimsy dude. This dude's

577
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: two kind of a bigger game. He does not look

578
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: like what you would imagine a receiver to look like

579
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: like he really he looks more like a running back,

580
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: a smaller running back, but still he also how tall

581
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: is hen't have been playing quarterback but he had no

582
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah what happened and he's still like he still had

583
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: like an All America caliber season playing out of position

584
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Speaker 1: all year. He's six foot six one. Okay, it's always

585
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, I want to get the real measurements because

586
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: colleges like to lie. Yeah, for sure, he's around there.

587
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: What yeah, little bit. Only if you're if you're short,

588
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: if you're actually six three, they'll let you stay six three.

589
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: But if you're six foot six three, well sometimes I

590
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: think that's six three is to cut off folks, it's

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Speaker 1: sixty three. They're like, that's good. Yeah, yeah, but if

592
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Speaker 1: you're right, keep you at six three, six fours. If

593
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Speaker 1: and my pet cat or wait, no, no, go ahead, okay,

594
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Speaker 1: well my pet cat, I tweeted about yesterday, colleague Kareem

595
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. He's an edge rusher. I've heard this

596
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Speaker 1: name in Troy, Michigan, and I hadn't really heard anything

597
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: about him prior to me watching tape yesterday and I

598
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: was really in press six four two sixty five. The

599
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: guys lean he's a senior. I'm in I'm in love

600
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: with the size in his build. You can put a

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Speaker 1: hand in the ground, he can stand up on the

602
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Speaker 1: out side as well. Uh, just his build really kind

603
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Speaker 1: of it excites me. But also the way that he

604
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: gets inside offensive tackles. I think, I think he gets

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Speaker 1: underneath these guys. The one knock to him is the

606
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Speaker 1: fact that he can't necessarily go to the outside a

607
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Speaker 1: whole lot. I think because of that, he's probably gonna

608
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Speaker 1: be a early day three, maybe late date or I

609
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Speaker 1: think I got it. I've got it in a round

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Speaker 1: three because I do. You think he's solid? Yea, and

611
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Speaker 1: him he can reach anyone. I mean he could go

612
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Speaker 1: reach believable a cup of coffee at the other end

613
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Speaker 1: of the table, stretch armstrong, and he's get really long arms.

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Speaker 1: The twitch is not there though, the bend is not there.

615
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: But he's any solid player. Yeah, Um and a guy

616
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Speaker 1: who can also you know, probably move inside and red

617
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Speaker 1: rush on third down from a defensive tackle position if needed.

618
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Speaker 1: So I think he's a solid player. Um, but I

619
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Speaker 1: kind of have him you know, third round grade and

620
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: kind of late early round four type grad. I like

621
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Speaker 1: him a lot, I really do, and I think his

622
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: his workouts will probably decide where he's gonna be taken.

623
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: But as the same time, like it's so early that

624
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've found that one guy that

625
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: I've seen and that has really kind of at least

626
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Speaker 1: caught my eye and been my quote unquote pet cat.

627
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: But he's definitely number one on the list. Have time

628
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: to make an official These are justiny. Yeah, there you go.

629
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: These are pet kittens, liminary cats. Okay. So kind of

630
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: sticking with the secondary theme, of course, we talked about

631
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Dane mentioning this earlier in having the defensive tackles early.

632
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Speaker 1: What about secondary in day two? Is there anybody's safety's

633
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: corners anybody that you guys have your eyes on. This

634
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: question comes from Cowboys Nation. I think my favorite safety

635
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: be exactly. I think if Xavier McKinney ends up going,

636
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: he's for the safety from Alabama if he ends up

637
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: kind of in delpit territory. And I don't think it's

638
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: crazy to think that Xavier McKinney would go as the

639
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: first safety in this draft. No, no, So I think

640
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: you start to go to Ashton Davis is the next

641
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: guy on my list. He's from California. Like him a

642
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: lot too. Yeah, he's he's really fun and I think

643
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: he's six one two one. He's a little older prospect.

644
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna be twenty four. You know, it's the season

645
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: gets going next year, you're gonna have a twenty four

646
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: year old. But he can play free safety, comes down

647
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: in the box. He shows the range to play free safety,

648
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: but he's got really good speed and also you see

649
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: the instincts. You can see him make plays on the ball.

650
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I think that the game against Oregon where he intercepts Herbert,

651
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: he makes a play where he's basically got a good

652
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: relationship with both routes and you can just see him

653
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: move and dive to the middle of the field and

654
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: make a play. Like Ashton Davis is a guy. The

655
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: thing that you're kind of asking out of him is

656
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: how physical is he going to be in the run?

657
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Is he going to be a good tackle. He'll throw

658
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: his body around, but will he finish off tackles? But

659
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: I got questions about delpot when it comes to saying.

660
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a lot to like it in

661
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis. He can also man up in the slot

662
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: when asked to do it. He can do a lot

663
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: for you. I like him. I've got him in the

664
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: second round. But you know he's a little bit slender,

665
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: and I think that's where you kind of go, Okay,

666
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: what am I asking him to do? Am I asking

667
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: him to be the over the top free safety type guy?

668
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: Because I think he can do that. You start asking

669
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: him to come down in the box like we've asked

670
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: safeties to do. All kinds of safeties to do here,

671
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: whether it be Zaviorwoods or Jeff Either or whatever. You

672
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: start asking him to play close to the line of scrimmage.

673
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: I start to have my concerns about him, But I

674
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: like him as a free safety, and I think you

675
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: know who knows the with how the depth of safety

676
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: in this draft. Maybe he rises. Maybe he's late first

677
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: round guy. So he's a guy would have my eyes

678
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: set on at fifty one wherever the Cowboys are picking.

679
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: In Ron two. Yeaham, he's a guy would like to

680
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: fall to me there. But you know last year they

681
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: had a pretty good safety fall to him in that

682
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: territory too, and they didn't even go there. You got

683
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: to do that. It's kind of come up. They had

684
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: a guy in mind, they had a guy in mind.

685
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: It's like the new T J. Watt Taco conversation, like

686
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna come up. Do you have a good handle

687
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: on how deep the safety class is a good handled? No?

688
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: Uh handle? Yes I have. And we'll talk about this

689
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: in a minute when we talk about the Senior Bowl.

690
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Here's my list of safeties in owner Ready Grant Delpitt. Okay,

691
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: and my second round safety is Xavier McKinney Ashton Davis

692
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: from California. Third round safeties. I have very limited film

693
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: on him, so I'm putting him there now just for fun,

694
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: and then we'll move him because he's gonna be at

695
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl next week. The Small School Guy. You'll

696
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: find the YouTube clips Hold on the Small School Guy,

697
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: The Small hold on Kyle Dugger Lenora rhyme uh. And

698
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fun if you go watch his tapes,

699
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: if you go watch his two pieces of film on YouTube.

700
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: I have never heard of this school in my life. Yeah,

701
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: well you you probably haven't heard of any of his

702
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: opponents either. But you know what you look for when

703
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: you have the small school guy. I want the guy

704
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: to look like a dad playing against a much eight

705
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: year old shirt up basketball. Sure, and he does kind

706
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: of do that, okay, and then I Terrell Burgess from Utah,

707
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: who you can kind of There's another small school guy

708
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: too in the fourth round. He's a senior Bowl guy,

709
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 1: Jeremy chen A's Southern Illinois. He's more of a strong

710
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: safety tie. So did I hear you say I got

711
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: seven guys? I got six guys in four rounds. Xavier

712
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: McKinney is not a first round grade for you. He's

713
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: a two for me. Okay. The only first round grade

714
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: you had was delp It, right, that's right? Wow? How

715
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: high of a first round grade do you have? Delp It?

716
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: Just curious. I had pieced them all together like in order,

717
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you're that way or not.

718
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: I've gone full Brugler this year, where I'm gonna cheat

719
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna differentiate between a one and a one two.

720
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: You got to do that, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, because

721
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: some integrity. This is integrity integrity saying, listen, there's a

722
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 1: difference between the guys who were ones and the guys

723
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: who were one two. I'm with Jeff, and I have

724
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: zero safeties as a one, both of them as a

725
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: one two, because I want to differentiate between if you've

726
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: got a guy like if um Ceedee Lamb is available,

727
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: if Henry Ruggs is available on my board, it'll be

728
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: clear they're not just all ones. Okay, but there is

729
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: a differentiator here that that raises a scary scenario where

730
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be the it's a year after year

731
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: thing where okay, let's just say Xavier McKinney and Grant

732
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: Delpit being the two obvious first round safeties in most

733
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: people's eyes at least, well, I guess he's a one

734
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: two now regardless. But it's a classic case of like,

735
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 1: definitely there at seventeen, probably there at seventeen one percent

736
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: gone as hell by pick fifty one. Then you have

737
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: to add a one two category on your board, and

738
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: it's just easier if you check it out and see

739
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: what you do is five. You just spread out your

740
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: one and your two leave yourself a lot of room,

741
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: Kyle saying this is Kyle. No. Look, Glands, Judy are

742
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: up right by the one Kyle, and then there's such

743
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: blank spots in one and then the other two. I'm

744
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: so bored right now. So I'm moving on. If the

745
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: team my board, if the team switches to a three four,

746
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: what's the biggest personnel need we can get in the draft?

747
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: That's from Sam Williams on Twitter. The entire D line

748
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: and pass rushers. I mean that, just draft everyone. You

749
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: have Tank Lawrence, that's your D line. Yeah, I Tank

750
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence that you're doing he is three four, Well, he's

751
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: a front five. I trust, I trust, I trust Tank

752
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: could do it. No, I believe you could too. But

753
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: you still need three defensive tim You would need another

754
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: edge rusher. You don't like you do not have a

755
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: guy that you don't have any of the front three.

756
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: You don't have a nose. You definitely definitely do have

757
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: a nose. May maybe a healthy Tyrone Crawford could play

758
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: three four end. That's what he was drafted today. He

759
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: definitely could do that. That's what he was drafted. If

760
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: you'd love it, No, Well, every time he had to

761
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: play D tackle and deal with multiple people. He seemed

762
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: like his body didn't have any options right now. Though. Yeah,

763
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: that's a great point point, Yeah, is that or go

764
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: somewhere else? Who else on this team? I mean, I mean,

765
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm moving Jalen to edge rusher to three four outside linebacker,

766
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: and I will bring back I'll try to bring back

767
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Sean Lee if he wants to come back to play

768
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: inside with Layton, or I bring back Joe Thomas, who

769
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: could play inside into three four great Daniel Wise has

770
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: played a three four endre we go. Okay, so you're

771
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: saying we could pitch this together with duct tape and

772
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: they're doing that, that's kind of that's harsh. That's harsh.

773
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: You will, Okay, their defensive one right now would be

774
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: what it would be, Tank and Dorn's arm Strong. I mean,

775
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods and Tristan Hill. They will bring we're patching

776
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: it together. They will bring some guys back. If I

777
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: just I just have this feeling like if they stick

778
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: in a four to three, I mean, it's realistic to

779
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: me to think Robert Quinn could be back. I don't

780
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: think that's I don't think that's crazy at all. I

781
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think it's crazy either, But how

782
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: much money did he make this year? Like, if you

783
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: if you look at the nerd stuff, it's two years

784
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: in a row, he's had the best pass rush win

785
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: rate in the entire league and this year translated into

786
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: eleven and a half sacks. Right, he's gonna come here

787
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: for two years and twelve million dollars? No, you, I

788
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: think you would have to mean you're gonna have to

789
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 1: pay him a decent sum of money, but hopefully sign

790
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: your quarterback franchise Robert Quinn in transition Byron or transition. Yeah,

791
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Then let Byron go draft a corner.

792
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, sumber three four. I do think

793
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: you need to have a nose. I think you need

794
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: to have an effective And I don't feel like you're saying, hey,

795
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, go get it, like that's where you start going. Okay,

796
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: is Derek Brown falling to pick eight or nine? And

797
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: then then am I going up to make plays? You

798
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: you're draft, you're training up to draft a nose tackle

799
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: and a three four that would be insane. After watching

800
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: this team refuse to spend any resources on a nose,

801
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: it seems weird. Right, So I would say, don't change it.

802
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I show some three four looks every once in a while.

803
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I do like in the sense of, okay, let's just

804
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: imagine they're patching a three four together with their current personnel.

805
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: They don't have a guy that fits like the zero technique. Nos, No,

806
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: they don't. You'd be sacrificing Antoine Woods and you'd be like,

807
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: go try your best. They would have to sign or

808
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: draft to get the beauty of it is you don't

809
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: have to be anything. I mean, you can have a

810
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: base and that's what you are. But you can show

811
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: three four that, you can show four three looks, and

812
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: you can try to piece it together somehow. Um. I mean,

813
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I would like you to commit to something, but haven't

814
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: we been asking them to change things up? So show

815
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: me some different looks. I'm okay with playing some three

816
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: four because I do think Jalen could rush sometimes. I

817
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: don't want him rushing there all year longs. I don't

818
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: know how that knee holds up, But like, I do

819
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: like him rushing and think about him in a three

820
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: four look that I think that could be fun. Yeah.

821
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Sticking with the defense, though, West can trail real quick

822
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: question our final one asked, should this team look to

823
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: draft a linebacker basically in either scheme? Is that an opportunitall?

824
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: I think what kind? I mean? Are we talking like

825
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: a rush linebacker? Yeah? Probably if you're not gonna move Jalen.

826
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know because we don't know who

827
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign, right, Yeah, we don't know what they're

828
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: gonna do in free agency. And like, at this point,

829
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: the only thing I would say about the draft is

830
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: they need to let it come to them where you're

831
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna have enough needs. Yeah, where if it's like, hey,

832
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: we've got to get this, No, no you don't, because

833
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: what you've got to get right now is at least

834
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: one d tackle, at least one d end, at least

835
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: one safety, at least one corner, probably a tight end somewhere.

836
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: You need a lot. So just let it happen. But

837
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's worth noting that don't ignore linebacker. Ye,

838
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: just because you've paid one big money and one was

839
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: a first round pick, you've got an uncertainty with the neck.

840
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: Which but I will say, but like at something and

841
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: I know, like I get it, hope it is not

842
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: a strategy. But like at some point, I've got a

843
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Speaker 1: trust that my first round pick who was an all

844
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Speaker 1: Pro win healthy and my second round pick who I

845
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Speaker 1: gave a bunch of money to. Like, Yeah, I've got

846
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Speaker 1: a trust that they can handle the workload. That doesn't

847
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Speaker 1: mean ignore it. I feel so comfortable saying that either

848
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Speaker 1: Sell either Shan Lee or Joe Thomas will be here

849
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Speaker 1: in twenty twe to have them both back. I'd be

850
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: fine with that too, both and then we know this team.

851
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: And again, the coaching staff is different, but over the

852
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: years they love drafting linebackers. Not always a first round

853
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Speaker 1: or second round pick, but Day three special teams get

854
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Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins, Damian Wilson, Kyle Wilber, Markins. I love picking

855
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: a linebacker when they could be picking a starting nose tacklers.

856
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: But I definite like, I think there's something to be

857
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: said they really do. Man, there's something to be said

858
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: for like the Luke gif for type who can play

859
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of special teams and fill in. So no,

860
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you can afford to ignore linebacker. But

861
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great idea to spend a

862
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: huge resources on it unless you're talking about an edge rusher,

863
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: which we don't know that yet. I mean, if they

864
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: switched to three four and drafted a three four edge

865
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: like a Calavon Chaser guy, that's fine with me if

866
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. But if they're sticking

867
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Speaker 1: in a four to three, I don't think they could

868
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Speaker 1: afford to day. Wait, noth's fine. He's fine. Wow, he's

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Speaker 1: one guy. Yeah, it was Chase. He's pretty good. It

875
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Speaker 1: was an impressive showing. And we're gonna talk about some

876
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Speaker 1: LSU guys coming up next to our Senior Bowl preview.

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918
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Speaker 1: Like Katie, Senior Bowl coming up next week. It's gonna

919
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: be a fun one. What do you got in store?

920
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: They have been kind of focusing on the Senior Bowl guys.

921
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Before things get going next week, let's start with quarterbacks.

922
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: I think the big thing to have six quarterbacks on

923
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: the roster, and it's actually gonna be a big week.

924
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: I think in the years past, there's been some guys

925
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: that have gone to the Senior Bowl where I've kind

926
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: of gone, Okay, I'm not terribly interested in the quarterbacks

927
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: because you like the high end guys. I'm kind of like,

928
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: like Broadest Houston be He's like, hey, let's do with

929
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last when we would watch chairs, because sometimes there's

930
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: a lot of bad quarterbacks and you don't want to

931
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: really watch a lot, especially I mean, this team doesn't

932
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: seem to need one one. Nothing's more exhausting than watching

933
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: a bad quarterback. Yeah, but from watching from from big time,

934
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: you know NFL Draft storylines, three guys have really are

935
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: going to have everyone's attention next week. Justin Herbert of Oregon,

936
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Love of Utah State, and Jalen Hurts of Alabama

937
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: all there. The other three quarterbacks are Montez of Colorado,

938
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: Shay Patterson of Michigan, and Anthony Gordon at Washington State.

939
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Your tone is so dismissive. Anthony Gordon had some moments

940
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: this year. They did He's not a bad player game

941
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: coming from He's the garden Gardner minshow's special, baby? Yeah,

942
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: that could work right, the day three guy who gets

943
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: to start when a quarterback gets hurt. Yeah, I mean yeah,

944
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: I could see that. I'm not saying he's like a

945
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: first round pick, but I was impressed with a little

946
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: that I've seen of him. So mulible as all get

947
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: out to Herbert and Love, ye know, they're the big guys,

948
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: and that's when you're looking at the teams that might

949
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: need quarterbacks. But also if you think about where the

950
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys are picking at seventeen, you want those guys to

951
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: go blow it up and have a great week because

952
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: you want four quarterbacks taken before you pick at seventeen.

953
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that's likely, but we got a lot

954
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: to find out about Jordan Love and Justin Herberts. I

955
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: say you don't think Jordan Love could go before seventeen,

956
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I think absolutely could. I think Herbert absolutely could. I

957
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy to think either one of those good.

958
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: Oh I'll bet you right now that Herbert's gone before seventeen. Okay,

959
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he's. Lady see him both

960
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: being gone before seventeen. Why the Cowboys get Javon Kinlaw.

961
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: I am done done betting against teams willingness to take

962
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: a chance on a quarterback because we just saw Daniel

963
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: Jones go in the top ten, Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray.

964
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: We're number one overall picks. Teams love overdrafting quarterbacks. Now

965
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I love it the wide receiver group. I think the

966
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: wide receiver group is going to have a really good

967
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: week against the secondary group. If you look loaded these

968
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: wide receivers, Brandon Ayouk of Arizona State, Denzel Mems of Baylor,

969
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, who we talked about a little bit earlier

970
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: from USC, kJ Hill of Ohio State, who I think

971
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: is a really good slot wide receiver, ant Antonio Gandy

972
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: Golden of Liberty who's a big oh dude, Devin Duverney

973
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: of Texas, and I've got a history of trolling Texas Longhorns,

974
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: but Devin Davernet is really good. Yeah, He's fun to watch.

975
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: And then they have Brian Edwards of South Carolina, Colin

976
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Johnson of Texas. Juwan Jennings of Tennessee is the most

977
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: hair on fire player I've ever seen, the yack God himself.

978
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: He is incredible. Van Jefferson of Florida, James Prochet of SMU,

979
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: Chase Claypol of Notre Dame, and then Collijah Lipscomb of Vanderbilt.

980
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: He had a really good year last year with eighty

981
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: seven catches, and then his production completely fell off last

982
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: year because that whole team was really bad. The production

983
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: fell off for the running back end, the tight end.

984
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: Jared Peakney tells you a little bit what you need

985
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: to know about Vanderbilt, what was going on there. Lipscomb

986
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: is a really good player. I mean, these are all

987
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: guys who I think can all get drafted in the

988
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: first four or five rounds, and they're all going to

989
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: be at the Singer Bowl proving what they have and

990
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: they all have to also go up against all these

991
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: underclass and when it comes to draft time, which and

992
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: am I a mean person? And I watched the many

993
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: prospects as you, it doesn't seem like the dB field

994
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: is quite as loaded. Let's go there. Cornerbacks, you know,

995
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: good cornerbacks? Yeah, do it. Jeff Gladney of TCU. I

996
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: love Jeff Gladeny of TCU. UM. In fact, he's my

997
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: number two cornerback right now, behind who behind um? Who's

998
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: number Okuda then Gladney H Christian Fulton lsu. Um, he's

999
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a big week, and especially getting picked down

1000
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: in the National Championship Game a little bit. It's really

1001
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: interesting to see how he holds up. Troy Pride junior

1002
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame. Then you go Aj Green of Oklahoma State,

1003
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson of Pittsburgh, Troy Pride junior. I like him.

1004
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: He's five to eleven. I got a third round grade

1005
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: on him. Um. I think he's got a chance to

1006
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: stay on the outside because he does play pretty physical

1007
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: out there, so I think he's very interested. He was

1008
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: not challenged hardly at all from Notre Dame. Right, Yes,

1009
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Troy Pride. You watched him yesterday and I wasn't impressed. Well,

1010
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't. You're not gonna see a lot. You have

1011
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: to really find the bulls they are thrown to him

1012
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: because they didn't throw at him. See more of a

1013
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: finesse corner than a physicality corner. And then the safety's

1014
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis, who we talked about a little bit earlier

1015
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: from California. Kyle Dugger. That's the big safety to watch.

1016
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: If you're a Cowboys fan. You're tracking them from lenoora rhyme.

1017
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: But you're gonna watch him go up against some big daddies.

1018
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be fun, that's I mean. And

1019
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: that is the fun of the Senior Bowl. Yeah, man,

1020
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Lenora Ryan going against guys from Baylor, USC, Ohio State,

1021
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Texas, you name it. He's gonna be doing

1022
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: it defensive tax scared pretty ridiculous too. Javon Kinlaw is

1023
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: going to be there. Um, I thought he pulled out?

1024
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: Did he did he pull out? No? Don't think so? Okay,

1025
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: might be. I don't know how much he's gonna work out.

1026
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: He should, he doesn't, he doesn't need to do anything.

1027
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: Uh Gallimore from Oklahoma. Don't don't say that though, man,

1028
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: because it's like every year these guys go and compete

1029
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: and and more often than not, if you go and

1030
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: put three good to days of practice together, you're gonna

1031
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: help yourself. Well, Like, if Aaron Donald's not too good

1032
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: to go to the Senior Bowl, then Ken Laws shouldn't be.

1033
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm just pro what's the worst that could happen? Guy?

1034
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: So I'd be like, Hey, we're going in the first round,

1035
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: what's the worst that could have Yeah? And I get

1036
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and I know, I mean get blocked or we could

1037
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: get hurt. Guys get hurt, I get it. But it's

1038
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: just fun to see these guys square off against each

1039
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: other in a setting like this. There have been some

1040
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: whispers about a knee, so yes, something to watch. Keep

1041
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: that just on your radar. There can't have nice things,

1042
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: can never have nice things. Neville Gallimore who we talked

1043
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: about from a Gallimore who we talked about from Oklahoma. Jeff,

1044
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: your guy who're watching right before the show started, Leaky

1045
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: foe two right there from Utah. Okay, you're gonna be there.

1046
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle. That's gonna be fun. Yeah, if you want

1047
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: to move him, good luck. I mean nose tackles who

1048
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: don't really rush the passer. What's the value? Cowboys can

1049
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: definitely use the value to three four. They could use

1050
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: that in a four three. That's what they've lacked that forever.

1051
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: And I would argue it frees up your linebackers to

1052
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: make more play. I'm a mini Rod Marinelli. I just

1053
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: want to see a little bit of juice any any

1054
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: flashes up sometimes, but for the most part, I think

1055
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: that Utah man is a I'm going to stand in

1056
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: this region and I'm not going anywhere. I'm not letting

1057
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: my bros make some play. Yeah, I'm gonna be right here.

1058
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take up space. Where can I get this guy? Like,

1059
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm not drafting him in the first two rounds right,

1060
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Like I would grade him as if I was picking

1061
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: late in the third or if I'm picking in the

1062
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: fourth round, then sign bring me up. They do need that,

1063
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: they might not need it so desperately to draft him high.

1064
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Maybe to watch the Baylor guy. I want to see

1065
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: if I can find a different fat guy that I like. No,

1066
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: that's the guy. Keep forgetting to watch him, to wat

1067
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 1: him last night Rick Juan Davis. No, I'm talking about

1068
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: their nose tell the Shrine Bowl right now. Uh maybe

1069
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: thinking I just know him talking to big twelve people.

1070
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: I think he blew up a guy on social media

1071
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: yesterday and one of the practices. Yeah, he's supposedly the lynchpin.

1072
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: Even though the defense I have a defense, I had

1073
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: to have good news for down the line, defensive tackle

1074
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: guys like one technique guys who we've been begging them

1075
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: to do that, Like, hey, these guys fall because they

1076
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: aren't always three down players. Three guys to keep an

1077
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: eye on. I have day three grades on, but I

1078
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: do like these guys and they will be at the

1079
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Ray Kuan Davis of Alabama he's six six

1080
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: three fifteen, but he is stiff as all get out.

1081
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean he is like you sit there and go, man,

1082
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: these measurables, but he just doesn't move very well. Davon

1083
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: Hamilton of Ohio State, he had six saxes of one

1084
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: tech and he's kind of a pocket pusher. And then

1085
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: fifth round fun name right here. He's a little bigger,

1086
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: but he's got a little poonaford to him. And I

1087
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 1: know you're a big poonaford guy. Were all poona guys.

1088
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: I think Benito Jones of Old miss I like, now

1089
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: he's six one, three fifteen and he's kind of got

1090
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: some bad weight on him, a handful of dirt. That's

1091
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: a six one three fifteen. I mean, if you're gonna

1092
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: wait three fifteen, you want to be two or three

1093
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: inches tall all nine. And actually the website that I

1094
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: was looking at him at three twenty nine, I can't

1095
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him standing next to Rayquon Davis.

1096
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: That's gonna be like the old Sean Bradley Muggsy Bots picture.

1097
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what happened? So Benito Jones of All

1098
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: misskeep an eye on him. So there's your defensive tackles.

1099
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: The tight ends we need do tight ends? Yeah, some

1100
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: tight ends. Okay. Bryson Hopkins of Purdue. I like him

1101
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: because he can block a little bit too. We'll go

1102
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: over the middle, makes some tough catches. Small school guy

1103
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Adam Troutman of Dayton, I've heard, I've heard the

1104
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: name Troutman. Same thing that I said earlier. I need

1105
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: to see more tape on him, because he believe it

1106
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: or not. Finding Dayton tape is difficult, but when you

1107
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: do watch the little bit I've watched of him. One

1108
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: thing that I mentioned earlier that you ask is I

1109
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: really need this guy to look like he's playing against

1110
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: someone about five or six years younger than him. I

1111
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: need him to big brother the small school dude. And

1112
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: he does that. That's why Terik Cohen's my favorite study

1113
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: of all time. It was incredible, Carolina A and t.

1114
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: It really looked like a college kid playing against bunch

1115
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: of middal scorers. He's not very big either, no he

1116
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: but he was dominating. I gotta give. I'm sorry, Ki, yeah,

1117
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: go ahead, No go ahead, No, you go ahead. I

1118
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: just you gotta give something. I gotta give Jim Naggy

1119
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: like a ton of credit. I mean, this is good.

1120
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: The Senior Bowl has been good for the last four

1121
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: or five years. I mean, you know, they get these

1122
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks to go. But this roster seems loaded. Like

1123
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: there are Day one and two picks every position group.

1124
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: Almost there's a let me finish the tight ends. But

1125
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: there's another Day one or two pick that I didn't

1126
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: even mention because he's gonna have a big week. Let's

1127
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: start with Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic. He's kind of Dalton

1128
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: Schultz type, kind of do everything. Okay, I've heard that

1129
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Harrison before, you know, getting the way blocker guy, but

1130
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: pretty good hands. I mentioned last week gat my guy

1131
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: from Portland State, Charlie Tumopeia. Okay, I can't wait to

1132
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: see him. Are you in that pronunciation? I typed it

1133
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: out so I feel okay about it. And then here's

1134
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: the guy he went from fifty catches and twenty eight

1135
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: team to twenty catches in twenty nineteen. Oh he got worse.

1136
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Jared Pinkney of Vanderbilt. Why do you get so much

1137
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: worse because Vanderbilts off on a scarbage team though that

1138
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: was that dumpster. It was worse than just a dumpster.

1139
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: It was a dumpster. One two hundred and thirty three

1140
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: yards this year, but over fifteen hundred in his career.

1141
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: He is going to cause problems. I think in one

1142
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: on one drills. I like Jared Pinkney and he also

1143
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: I think he can do a little bit when he blocks.

1144
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna fall because of his production a little bit.

1145
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: In the draft. I don't know if he should. I

1146
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: have him as a second round grade. I have him

1147
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: as my number two tight end in this draft. So

1148
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: I still feel pretty good about him. So big loloaded

1149
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: tight end group as well. So yeah, he's like like

1150
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: offensive names out here that you go, man, we need

1151
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: to be thinking defense. But I'm still kind of tree

1152
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: and listen. Yeah, I speaking from experience. I think I've

1153
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: been to this will be my seventh straight Senior Bowl,

1154
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: and it's so much easier to stand out as an

1155
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: offensive player. It, I mean, it's it just is because

1156
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: like it's almost except for like you're Aaron Donald, right,

1157
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: like going on on past rush trails. You'll have those guys, Joe.

1158
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: I didn't say you can't do it. It's just easier.

1159
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a receiver and nobody can deal

1160
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: with you, or I remember skill position, I agree with you.

1161
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt was at the Senior Bowl two or three

1162
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: years ago and it just looked different when he had

1163
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, Like it's just it's easier

1164
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: for these guys to jump out at you. I know

1165
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Twitter is going to be losing its mind about some

1166
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: of these receivers next week at these practices. Yeah, I

1167
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: think it's going to be for these cornerbacks who are

1168
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: down the line, who are gonna have to like maybe

1169
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: Gladden he can hold his own, Maybe Christian Fulton Ellis

1170
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: you can hold their own against these wide receivers. I

1171
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: don't know all covering second round receivers good luck. I

1172
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: don't know if aj Green of Oklahoma State is going

1173
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: to be able to hang if he's got to go

1174
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: up against some of these dudes. Like I don't know,

1175
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm not calling him out specifically, I no, no,

1176
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: I get it. You like you know that, well, that's

1177
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't love him at one point in time again

1178
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: and get credit to Jim Naggy, credit to everybody at

1179
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, because like at one point in time,

1180
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl was like, okay, like if you were

1181
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: actually that good, you would have left already. And you know,

1182
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: this is a bunch of like round four to round

1183
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: seven guys out here playing around. That is not the case.

1184
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, they win and got the top seniors.

1185
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely kind of what it did. Zack Martin and Aaron

1186
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: Donald might have saved the Senior Bowl, I mean seriously

1187
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: that and same thing with quarterbacks and Baker Mayfield, Carson

1188
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: wentz Kyler, Murray, d dak Well. I mean, Dak wasn't

1189
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: as obviously as sure of a thing as a lot

1190
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: of these guys. But isn't that with the Senior Bowls

1191
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: all about prize you didn't know? I for one appreciate

1192
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: it because it makes go into these practices so much

1193
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: more fun. The same token, though, Cody Kessler tried to

1194
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: ruin the Senior Bowl. I mean that year. I mean

1195
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I saw him one hope to the water cooler and

1196
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: I said, okay, shut this thing down. Kevin Hogan too,

1197
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: you don't need to have this. Cody Kessler once tried

1198
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: to not win a football game. He's down by two

1199
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: scores and ran the clock out on himself. I still round.

1200
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: I still remember how vividly mad you were about that.

1201
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Watching Stanford gave you have season. Down two scores again,

1202
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: six minutes left. Code Kes throws three yard checkdowns and

1203
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: never throws the ball into the end zone until there's

1204
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: nine seconds left. You're down by two scores, Dude, I

1205
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: thought you were about to re enact it. Down by

1206
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: two scores, dude, Yes to all in the end zone

1207
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: six minutes ago, Man four years ago. To his credit,

1208
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: it was an impressive eight minute drive. That hurts his soul.

1209
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: His completion percentage is super high. Yeah, he was throwing

1210
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: the running backs when he was down by fifteen points.

1211
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: What do you guys to think of Zach Bond of

1212
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Wisconsin six two two twenty seven. Now here's what's gonna happen.

1213
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Because he is a three to four outside linebacker type

1214
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. People are immediately going to go. But he

1215
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: is about thirty pounds less than t J. Watt and

1216
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: he's about two which is shorter than t J. Watt.

1217
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: But he'd have twelve and a half sacks last year

1218
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. But he is everything. Trust me, he is

1219
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: a different He is your extremely poor man's Isaiah Simmons,

1220
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: who's a lot shorter and not near his athletic Isaiah Simmons,

1221
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: but in the way that he has used more sacks

1222
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: because he can rush. You can rush the outside, he

1223
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: can blitz a very good blitzer. He can cover a

1224
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: little bit, can to play linebacker. Some team's going to

1225
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: figure out what to do with him, and I'm interested

1226
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: to see what his team. It's the lines and the Bengals, right, yeah,

1227
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: which team he's on. And then also how they use him.

1228
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Well that say, hey you're you're you're a edge rusher

1229
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: this week. That is another that's another fun subplot. Who

1230
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: was it? I think it was the Eagles with Chip

1231
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: Kelly drafted Marcus Williams out of Louisville. I remember, not

1232
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: a great pick, Mark, thank you. I'm sorry, Marcus Smith.

1233
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: Point being is half these guys are tweeners between edge

1234
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: rushers and outside linebackers, and these coaching staffs are gonna

1235
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: have to find something to do with them. So that

1236
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: about is that it? Yeah, yeah, we're passed on now.

1237
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: Jeff's already Jeff's like, I just got another commitment. Okay, Jeff,

1238
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: get on with us. Okay, Well, be sure tape Okay,

1239
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: all right, buddy, be sure to keep up with all

1240
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl coverage over the next week. Dave and

1241
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: I will be in Mobile. Kevin will be all over

1242
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: it no matter where he is. Yeah, we're gonna have

1243
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: Katie and Jeff can't make it to Mobile, but me

1244
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: and Kyle will be doing uh Draft podcast Draft hits

1245
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: from Mobile all week with Lindsay to be on top

1246
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: of it. Lindsay, Yeah, we got you covered. We'll be

1247
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: back on next Thursday at eleven hits all the way

1248
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: throughout the week. We'll be there starting on Tuesday. So

1249
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: for Jeff Cavanaugh, Katie, Dave Helmet, I'm Kyle Yelman. Thanks

1250
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: for watching. We'll see you next week on the Dallas

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