WEBVTT - Mr. Jesse Metcalfe 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.760 Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.000 Thank you for being here, of course literally in person. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.119 Yeah, thank you for supporting my my skin Caroline. I 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:21.960 really appreciate it. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.360 Neutral skin. What what made you come up with that name? 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.360 I wanted to do a gender neutral skin Caroline, you know, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:29.520 unisex caroline. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.120 Yeah, So that's the double entendre behind it. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.159 Also that it's a it's a neutral product in the 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.880 sense that it's a super clean product. You know, there's 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.800 no there's no fillers, there's no extras, there's no fragrances, 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.640 no parabands, no silicones, cruelty free, vegan, organic, all the 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.240 good stuff. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.280 And you were nice enough to before this even send 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.519 me some and I've been using it. How do I like? 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.920 Of course five kids. I just I don't know. I 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.560 don't know if we can reverse timing. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.240 The ethos behind the product is also really just simplifying skincare. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.760 I mean, there's just so many product lines, so many products, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.679 and you know, most women almost see it as a 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.399 hobby to sort of pick and choose different products from 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.680 different lines and put it all together. But then it 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.720 turns into an eight, nine, ten step routine. And I mean, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.280 I don't know about you, but I don't really have 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:19.800 time for that. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.920 I don't have time for that. Yeah, no one does. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.600 But if you saw my counter at home, you would. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.200 We were just talking about the same thing before we started. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.640 Yeah, we have so many products on the counter, it's ridiculous. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.720 Yeah really, yeah, I mean we really do. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.759 We just get gifted a lot of stuff. I mean, 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.320 that's why I feel like I'm sort of uniquely qualified 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.200 to push a skincare line, because you know, I've been 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:43.760 in front of the camera for like twenty six years 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.200 and I've tried every product under the song, I mean everything. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.360 I mean, you're uniquely qualified to push anything. Oh thank you, Jesse, 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.520 if you can do whatever the fuck you want. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.520 Like, I don't know about that, but thank you. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.280 No, it's just me nice. So it's not a rule 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.800 in your house, you guys. Is like that that you 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.280 can't have just your skincare No, I. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.000 Mean, we definitely have a lot of other products, you know. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.400 Helen certainly has her favorites from a lot of different lines. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.040 I mean this is, you know, for the most part, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:15.240 what I use, you know, but Helen definitely cheats on 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:16.440 neutral skin, doesn't she. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.000 Yeah, Helen, his girlfriend is here with us, which is 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.880 I had many questions. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.679 About yeah, many things. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.079 About many because I like to just ask crazy ques boundaries. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.480 I have no boundary. So I'm staring at Helen when 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:37.200 I say this. I'm I should ask Helen what she 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.400 thinks about these questions I have for you. I actually 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.079 I don't go into my podcast with questions. It's kind 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:42.720 of off the cuff. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.240 I love it. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.160 I just roll with it. So last night, I'm gonna 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.880 go back to your skincare. But wait, and I'm going 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.200 to be all over the place because that's my brain. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.600 But so last night I rewatched John Tucker Must Die 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:56.919 with my eight year old. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.120 Oh my gosh, Wow, you did your research. I love it. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.280 I mean, it came out in two thousand and six, crarect, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.040 obviously I watched it back in the day. Wait, so 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.600 I was a nineties girl. You were two thousands. Just 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.200 makes it sound longer, like. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.000 I graduated high school in ninety six. No on camera, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.320 on camera, early two thousands, you know. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.280 But it doesn't flow when you say it like that, 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.040 Like people were like I loved you. I'm like, yeah, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.280 a nineties girl like you can't be like early two 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.399 thousands die. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.600 Yeah, it doesn't have the same ringto it, does it. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.200 It doesn't. So what is the thing? It's not why 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:30.600 two K? 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.280 I get, it's kind of why two K? I guess, Yeah, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:34.000 why two K? 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.800 Yeah? Where were you on white two K? Like when 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:37.320 it happened? 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:38.960 I mean I was living in it. I mean what 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:39.320 do you mean? 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.240 I wasn't really conscious it was happening. Yeah, But looking 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.080 back on it, so. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.360 Two thousand, like, where were you when everyone's like the 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:46.120 world's going to end? 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:51.360 Like I was just dropping out of college and starting 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:56.040 a career in acting on a now defunct, ridiculous so. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.080 Far a minute eleven and twelve am, you were just. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.760 Dropping Like that's literally when it happened. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.920 Yeah, but do you remember? We all remember exactly where 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.200 I was. You can't say you didn't remember I was. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.240 I was in LA. I was brand new to l A. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.840 Yeah, an is he avoiding this question? 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.839 I mean I don't know what I was doing specifically, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.320 To be honest, that's a fib It's really not. I know, 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.960 I know I knew exactly where I was, like when 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.919 nine to eleven happened, But as far as like you know, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.279 the clock turning to uh, the year two thousand. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:32.080 Were you not worried? 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.279 No? I wasn't. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.480 Yeah, there was a lot of talk about all these 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:36.880 like computer systems, like you. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.400 Weren't worrying about to be a big star. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.280 No, no, no, no, I couldn't use like an ATM 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.520 machine or something. I mean, people were really really freaking 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.760 out over over it becoming the year two thousand. But yeah, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.040 I don't remember ever having any major concern around that. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:52.960 I remember where I was. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.840 Where were you about you? 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.920 It's what I do best. I was on a yacht 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:04.320 in Saint Bart's. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.120 Sounds nice, I know. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.600 And my daughter who's seventeen, just went to Saint Bart's 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.440 with her friends like it was her best friend's birthday 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.440 and their family has money and their grade and they 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.679 took all her friends and I was like, oh my god, girl, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.400 Like you're like you're living my life, living the dress 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.240 that was my life. Things have changed. But yeah, I 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.760 remember we were all like drinking champagne and we were like, okay, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:28.640 this might be it. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.120 See you didn't sound like you were your concerned either. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.279 Sounded like you were pretty relaxed. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.440 Yeah, yeah, I mean I was on a yacht. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.440 Yeah okay, Oh so I was, it's amazing how oblivious 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.760 you are when you're young. When you're young and you're 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.479 having some success and you're enjoying your life, you know, 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.159 and then as you get older, you get more riddled 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.880 with anxiety and more aware of everything that's going on 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:51.360 around you, more stressed out. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.320 I know, I found that to be true. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.560 Anyway, Is he stressed a lot? 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.600 Yeah? 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.920 Okay, So I rewatched it last night, and that movie 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:08.880 still stands. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:09.160 Up, thank you. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:09.760 Yeah. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.160 It got absolutely panned when it came out, but it 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.080 became oviscerated. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:20.080 Yeah, but it became like such a cult rom com that, like, yeah. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.560 It really did. I mean, it really stood the test 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:22.839 of time, which is wild. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.800 Are they making a reboot? I heard word. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.120 There's a script. There's there's a script. There's a sequel script. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.479 I've read the script. It's that twentieth century Fox. But 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.400 if I had to go with my gut, I'd say 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:35.840 it's probably not gonna happen. Why. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.040 I don't know, because because they've been sitting on the 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:39.800 script for a while. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.520 Everyone in the cast said they'd participate and it just 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:44.280 hasn't happened. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:47.279 Who would you play? 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.919 Would I play? I would play a grown up John Tucker. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:54.040 It wouldn't be funny. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.200 If you played someone else, it could be interesting, But 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:57.839 I don't think that's the I don't think that's the 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:58.760 game plan here, Tory. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.480 So what it's like, John Tucker Junior must die. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.560 Well, to give you a little insight into the script, 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.480 I grew up to be the girls basketball coach. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.760 I just almost hurt. I grew up to be a girl, and. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:15.760 That would be interesting. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.880 Yeah, he unknowingly he took estrogen in the movie. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:24.920 Exactly, So no, absolutely not, but that ramifications. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:26.960 She's put the pills in there. She didn't even crush 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.240 it up, and you didn't even care. You just kept 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.760 put it in your water bottle. Okay. Yeah, and their 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.760 movies were tender. Okay, So okay, go on, Sorry, I 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:35.880 didn't hear words you said. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.480 John Tucker becomes the girls basketball coach at his daughter's 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:41.080 high school. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:41.840 I like that. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.800 So yeah, So I mean it kind of like karmic retribution. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.640 He has a daughter, of course, you know, she's dealing 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.240 with a bunch of John Tucker's in her school. That's 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.040 the that's the broad premise. Without ruining a movie that's 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.000 not even green light. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:59.280 Yet, I feel like you should make this movie. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.760 Though maybe you're right. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.960 Yeah, maybe you're right. So who is the rights to it? 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.600 Twentieth century? 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.600 So I worked with Betty Thomas on Troop Beverly Hills. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.080 That's amazing and I loved her. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:12.840 I love her. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.040 She's she was so great. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.240 Would she do this one? 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.960 I have no idea, but I think it'd be really cool. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:19.480 She did. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:20.640 She's awesome. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:21.360 She's awesome. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.280 I don't know what she's like with boys, but she 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.000 was like so cool, she super cool, like super cool woman. Okay, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.600 Sophia Bush, do you still talk to her? 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.959 I see her from time to time like fan events, 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:37.760 but no, we don't talk on a regular basis. 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:38.520 But she's great. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:43.840 Did Helen Earmuffs Did you date anyone in that movie scenes? 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:45.760 No? I didn't. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:46.839 I've heard to do something. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:47.880 I'm friend. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.800 I tried to do some deep diving on you, and 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.640 there's nothing. I never would have dated you back then. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.679 Like you Yeah, I hear you, yea. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:06.080 Why you wouldn't Helen Earmups like back in the early 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.040 two thousands, you wouldn't have dated me? No? 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:10.880 I mean maybe I would have dated you, I don't know, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.480 but you wouldn't have wanted to date me. It's what 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.920 I'm saying. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:21.079 I want to know, like what, there's there's there's other 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.520 layers to you. I believe this. I want to peel 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:29.320 back the thank you. I can't go wrong. No, it's 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:30.880 just like, there's no dirt on you. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.280 Well there's there's there's a little bit, but not too much. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.280 But that was so his book just came out. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.800 Oh yeah, no, I know she spoke highly of me, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.439 which was nice. Yeah. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.680 She didn't even have anything bad to say about. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.840 You're breaking that news to my girlfriend live by the way, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.280 I don't know, she's okay, she saw it all. I 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.120 tried to keep that from her. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.760 I mean, what but that was like when that was 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.040 were you dating. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.000 A long time ago? Twenty years ago? 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.640 So okay, this is a great example. I feel that 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:11.760 females and males see things differently in youth. So whereas 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.880 what I would be like, oh I was dating him, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.440 he'd be like, we were just hanging out. She said 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.160 she was dating you. Do you feel like you were 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:19.679 dating her? 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:19.800 No? 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.840 We were. We were we were dating. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.600 I mean it was overall, it was pretty brief, but 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.600 we were seeing each other on a regular basis. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.400 What did we call it back then like now, people 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.920 were like, oh, I'm seeing each other. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.080 Seeing each other, seeing each other. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.800 But now technology, no one sees each other. Like it's 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.640 all texting, like I'm talking with somebody. My kids will 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.120 say it's like talking, but then they never No, they. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.960 Don't even get to see it. It's photos before it 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.559 even started. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:50.960 Yes, I know. Okay, where'd you guys meet mask? 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.560 We met through a mutual friend who happened to be 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:59.400 her boss. Yeah, so so her but her boss and 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:05.560 I to the same gym, and he had mentioned that 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.040 she thought I was handsome, and we ended up going 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.920 out and the rest of the rest is history. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:17.080 Of course, I can I take direction. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:24.320 Well, I know, Helen, this that's why you get all 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.320 those brand deals, because you're just so. You're the good guy. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.160 Oh, thank you, thank you. I try to be. I 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:31.600 try to be. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.880 You should have been cast in Twilight. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:33.920 That my work in progress. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.320 He should have been Taylor Lotner's. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.040 You want to know. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.360 What's funny about being cast in Twilight or being cast 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:52.120 as a vampire. I got a great, great story. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:49.280 Vampire Diaries. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.920 Yes, I auditioned for that show and I'll never forget 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.640 a really high up executive at c W was like, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.760 you could never play a vampire because you have two 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:00.680 nights of a face. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.520 That's what she said to me. She said, you look 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.240 like too nice of a guy to play a vampire. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.600 The story of your life. No, right there, you go, 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:09.320 right there? 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:10.880 Wheat. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.880 Oh but he wasn't a vampire. He was a were wolf. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:16.800 could you have played that? 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:17.840 I don't know who knows? 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.000 Nope, too nice? 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:19.640 Too nice? 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:21.400 Is he really too nice? 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:22.920 I'm not really that nice. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.640 You're not Okay, okay, I just got. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:27.720 Believe me. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.160 I know you're a sports guy. 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.520 I don't know if I'm a sports guy. I'm insta 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.160 Oh no, no, nom. Instagram is not always accurate, you know. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:39.439 Do you do your own Instagram? 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.800 My girlfriend Helen helps me with a lot of my. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:50.000 Content, you know, I'm I'm I've become more adept at 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.840 curating my my social media. But obviously a man of 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.200 forty six years old, I mean it was it was 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.840 a pretty steep learning curve, you know. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.400 I means that's what we do. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.560 Yeah, we got to adapt. Have about yourself? Was that 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.800 an easy? Was it easy for you to adapt? It 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.040 wasn't easy at first for me. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.800 Because We were told for so many years that we 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.440 had to maintain our mistique. Yes, you know, you didn't 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:14.959 want to put too much out there. You didn't want 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.480 to give people too much. You didn't want to share 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.560 too much about your personal life. And now it's like 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.200 share everything, right. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.439 We're from the school of like media trained, Like, yeah, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.160 they don't want to hear from you, they want to 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.480 see you, they don't want to know anything personal. There 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.240 was no paparazzi back then. One paparazzo take a picture 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.320 and be like, oh, may I ask like, can I 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.960 have a photo of you outside of like some restaurant? 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.080 But yeah, well I did reality TV and wrote books 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.400 and then just shared everything. Yeah, and now I can't 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:46.800 go back. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:47.640 No, you can't. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.800 I know you read it at all. Or oh, I 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.760 don't think I'm ever going to get like a Hain steal? 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:53.920 Why not? 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.560 Was I ever going to? Because I'm not like, I'm 0:13:59.080 --> 0:13:59.480 I think you. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.880 Perfect for a Hanes campaign? What do you mean? Wait? 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:02.960 I know I would. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.880 Yeah, I'll put in a good word. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.600 I think I'm polarizing. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.800 I can relate, Yeah, I can relate. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.200 I I I Throughout my life people have either loved 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.080 me or hated me, anyone hate you. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.120 Oh, I got a lot of. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:31.120 This morning, And I'm just kidding. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.040 No. I got a lot of criticism growing up for 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.200 the way I looked, you know. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.760 A lot of a lot of hate, a lot of hate. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.040 And I think that kind of continued, you know, sort 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.600 of like resurfaced again once I got into Hollywood and 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.240 broke as an actor. I mean, it's it's tough, you know, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.080 you were talking about paparazzi. I came up during the 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:58.840 time of internet media, you know, where tabloid media really exploded. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.400 Starting during the years, So I mean it was it. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:03.680 Was pretty brutal, you know. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.400 I mean I dealt with a lot of just a 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.240 lot of scrutiny, a lot of a lot of criticism. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.760 I mean, I you know, would they say that it's just. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.040 Picking apart my appearance? 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:14.720 You know. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.480 So this is interesting because I think a lot of 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.800 people don't understand that what others may perceive is good looking. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.680 People get bullied as well, oh totally, and might not 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:28.920 feel good about themselves. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.680 Bullied my whole life, you know, through my adolescence and 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.280 and and even in Hollywood. The funny thing is people 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.880 don't realize how harsh the industry was in the Y 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.080 two K era. I mean, and now it's softened up completely, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.120 you know. I mean now it's kind of like you 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.400 can't say anything because you might offend this person or 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.480 that or that or this group or that group. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.560 I mean it's Oh are you talking about that? It's 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.920 really changed that we all touched a lot back then. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:57.440 That we all touched a lot. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.200 Oh what are you talking to I'm just. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.520 I'm just talking about the fact that like that, like 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.600 the media was just really really brutal. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.120 Yeah, people in general, like people in sets are brutal. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.080 Now people, it's just different. It's just a different time. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.240 It's definitely a different time. Definitely a different time. But 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.880 I mean, you know, also, I mean I've also dealt with. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.200 Other things within the industry too, Like, like I've had 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.880 a lot of people say that I'm like difficult to 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:26.360 work with. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.520 What Yeah, I had never heard that. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.880 And and honestly, I feel like a lot of people 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.120 that maybe just didn't like me kind of tried to 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.360 like hurt my career, you know, or like smear me 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.240 or like character assassinate me. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:41.680 You know. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.640 It's funny before before you know, you showed up today 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:50.440 we were we were touching on an actor named Olivia 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.400 Munn who was just in a show that we really 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:53.600 like call Your Friends and Neighbors. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.720 She was great, she was great on the show, great 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:56.200 on the show. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.600 But I saw an interview recently where she came forward 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.800 and she said that she felt as though a director 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.720 because she was on that really critically acclaimed show Newsroom 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.600 Right Put. And she said that a director on that 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.840 show labeled her difficult to work with and that it 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.399 really hurt her career, you know, for a period. And 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.520 it's like literally, you know, one or two sort of 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:27.280 older people, directors, maybe producers, maybe executives can say can basically. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.640 Just like Blackball, you you know, and they don't really 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:30.960 have to point to anything specific. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.679 They can just go they can just give you the 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.679 moniker difficult to work with, right. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.000 And it can mean anything. I was just talking to 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.840 an actor recently about this, and he was saying, one time, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.480 it felt strongly about something that had to do with 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.280 the scene, and he was just like, didn't come out 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.959 of his trailer for a second. But they were like, oh, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.760 he wouldn't come out of his trailer, and so if 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.480 you could go back, could you pinpoint when someone might 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.200 have said that, not who it was, but what type 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:57.800 of behavior. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:04.520 Absolutely, I mean it's like direct people really want actors 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.600 to be seen and kind of not heard. I mean, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.879 they want you to kind of come prepared beyond time, 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.359 hit your mark, do your job. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.320 They don't really want to hear your opinion. That's really 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:17.719 that's really the problem. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.720 Don't don't don't gave your opinion. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.440 I just saw another quote yesterday from you know, David 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.520 corn Sweat the New Superman. Yes, he said he was 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.200