Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, of course literally in person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for supporting my my skin Caroline. I
Speaker 3: really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Neutral skin. What what made you come up with that name?
Speaker 1: I wanted to do a gender neutral skin Caroline, you know,
Speaker 1: unisex caroline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's the double entendre behind it.
Speaker 1: Also that it's a it's a neutral product in the
Speaker 1: sense that it's a super clean product. You know, there's
Speaker 1: no there's no fillers, there's no extras, there's no fragrances,
Speaker 1: no parabands, no silicones, cruelty free, vegan, organic, all the
Speaker 1: good stuff.
Speaker 2: And you were nice enough to before this even send
Speaker 2: me some and I've been using it. How do I like?
Speaker 2: Of course five kids. I just I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we can reverse timing.
Speaker 1: The ethos behind the product is also really just simplifying skincare.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many product lines, so many products,
Speaker 1: and you know, most women almost see it as a
Speaker 1: hobby to sort of pick and choose different products from
Speaker 1: different lines and put it all together. But then it
Speaker 1: turns into an eight, nine, ten step routine. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I don't really have
Speaker 1: time for that.
Speaker 2: I don't have time for that. Yeah, no one does.
Speaker 2: But if you saw my counter at home, you would.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about the same thing before we started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have so many products on the counter, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yeah really, yeah, I mean we really do.
Speaker 1: We just get gifted a lot of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like I'm sort of uniquely qualified
Speaker 1: to push a skincare line, because you know, I've been
Speaker 1: in front of the camera for like twenty six years
Speaker 1: and I've tried every product under the song, I mean everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're uniquely qualified to push anything. Oh thank you, Jesse,
Speaker 2: if you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know about that, but thank you.
Speaker 2: No, it's just me nice. So it's not a rule
Speaker 2: in your house, you guys. Is like that that you
Speaker 2: can't have just your skincare No, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, we definitely have a lot of other products, you know.
Speaker 1: Helen certainly has her favorites from a lot of different lines.
Speaker 1: I mean this is, you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: what I use, you know, but Helen definitely cheats on
Speaker 1: neutral skin, doesn't she.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Helen, his girlfriend is here with us, which is
Speaker 2: I had many questions.
Speaker 3: About yeah, many things.
Speaker 2: About many because I like to just ask crazy ques boundaries.
Speaker 2: I have no boundary. So I'm staring at Helen when
Speaker 2: I say this. I'm I should ask Helen what she
Speaker 2: thinks about these questions I have for you. I actually
Speaker 2: I don't go into my podcast with questions. It's kind
Speaker 2: of off the cuff.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I just roll with it. So last night, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go back to your skincare. But wait, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to be all over the place because that's my brain.
Speaker 2: But so last night I rewatched John Tucker Must Die
Speaker 2: with my eight year old.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Wow, you did your research. I love it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it came out in two thousand and six, crarect,
Speaker 2: obviously I watched it back in the day. Wait, so
Speaker 2: I was a nineties girl. You were two thousands. Just
Speaker 2: makes it sound longer, like.
Speaker 3: I graduated high school in ninety six. No on camera,
Speaker 3: on camera, early two thousands, you know.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't flow when you say it like that,
Speaker 2: Like people were like I loved you. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: a nineties girl like you can't be like early two
Speaker 2: thousands die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have the same ringto it, does it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't. So what is the thing? It's not why
Speaker 2: two K?
Speaker 3: I get, it's kind of why two K? I guess, Yeah,
Speaker 3: why two K?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where were you on white two K? Like when
Speaker 2: it happened?
Speaker 3: I mean I was living in it. I mean what
Speaker 3: do you mean?
Speaker 1: I wasn't really conscious it was happening. Yeah, But looking
Speaker 1: back on it, so.
Speaker 2: Two thousand, like, where were you when everyone's like the
Speaker 2: world's going to end?
Speaker 1: Like I was just dropping out of college and starting
Speaker 1: a career in acting on a now defunct, ridiculous so.
Speaker 2: Far a minute eleven and twelve am, you were just.
Speaker 3: Dropping Like that's literally when it happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you remember? We all remember exactly where
Speaker 2: I was. You can't say you didn't remember I was.
Speaker 3: I was in LA. I was brand new to l A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, an is he avoiding this question?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what I was doing specifically,
Speaker 1: To be honest, that's a fib It's really not. I know,
Speaker 1: I know I knew exactly where I was, like when
Speaker 1: nine to eleven happened, But as far as like you know,
Speaker 1: the clock turning to uh, the year two thousand.
Speaker 2: Were you not worried?
Speaker 3: No? I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of talk about all these
Speaker 1: like computer systems, like you.
Speaker 2: Weren't worrying about to be a big star.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I couldn't use like an ATM
Speaker 1: machine or something. I mean, people were really really freaking
Speaker 1: out over over it becoming the year two thousand. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember ever having any major concern around that.
Speaker 2: I remember where I was.
Speaker 3: Where were you about you?
Speaker 2: It's what I do best. I was on a yacht
Speaker 2: in Saint Bart's.
Speaker 3: Sounds nice, I know.
Speaker 2: And my daughter who's seventeen, just went to Saint Bart's
Speaker 2: with her friends like it was her best friend's birthday
Speaker 2: and their family has money and their grade and they
Speaker 2: took all her friends and I was like, oh my god, girl,
Speaker 2: Like you're like you're living my life, living the dress
Speaker 2: that was my life. Things have changed. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: remember we were all like drinking champagne and we were like, okay,
Speaker 2: this might be it.
Speaker 3: See you didn't sound like you were your concerned either.
Speaker 3: Sounded like you were pretty relaxed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I was on a yacht.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, Oh so I was, it's amazing how oblivious
Speaker 1: you are when you're young. When you're young and you're
Speaker 1: having some success and you're enjoying your life, you know,
Speaker 1: and then as you get older, you get more riddled
Speaker 1: with anxiety and more aware of everything that's going on
Speaker 1: around you, more stressed out.
Speaker 3: I know, I found that to be true.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Is he stressed a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I rewatched it last night, and that movie
Speaker 2: still stands.
Speaker 3: Up, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It got absolutely panned when it came out, but it
Speaker 1: became oviscerated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it became like such a cult rom com that, like, yeah.
Speaker 3: It really did. I mean, it really stood the test
Speaker 3: of time, which is wild.
Speaker 2: Are they making a reboot? I heard word.
Speaker 1: There's a script. There's there's a script. There's a sequel script.
Speaker 1: I've read the script. It's that twentieth century Fox. But
Speaker 1: if I had to go with my gut, I'd say
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna happen. Why.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because because they've been sitting on the
Speaker 3: script for a while.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the cast said they'd participate and it just
Speaker 1: hasn't happened.
Speaker 2: Who would you play?
Speaker 3: Would I play? I would play a grown up John Tucker.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be funny.
Speaker 1: If you played someone else, it could be interesting, But
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: game plan here, Tory.
Speaker 2: So what it's like, John Tucker Junior must die.
Speaker 1: Well, to give you a little insight into the script,
Speaker 1: I grew up to be the girls basketball coach.
Speaker 2: I just almost hurt. I grew up to be a girl, and.
Speaker 3: That would be interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he unknowingly he took estrogen in the movie.
Speaker 1: Exactly, So no, absolutely not, but that ramifications.
Speaker 2: She's put the pills in there. She didn't even crush
Speaker 2: it up, and you didn't even care. You just kept
Speaker 2: put it in your water bottle. Okay. Yeah, and their
Speaker 2: movies were tender. Okay, So okay, go on, Sorry, I
Speaker 2: didn't hear words you said.
Speaker 1: John Tucker becomes the girls basketball coach at his daughter's
Speaker 1: high school.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So I mean it kind of like karmic retribution.
Speaker 1: He has a daughter, of course, you know, she's dealing
Speaker 1: with a bunch of John Tucker's in her school. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the broad premise. Without ruining a movie that's
Speaker 1: not even green light.
Speaker 2: Yet, I feel like you should make this movie.
Speaker 3: Though maybe you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you're right. So who is the rights to it?
Speaker 3: Twentieth century?
Speaker 2: So I worked with Betty Thomas on Troop Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: That's amazing and I loved her.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 3: She's she was so great.
Speaker 2: Would she do this one?
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I think it'd be really cool.
Speaker 3: She did.
Speaker 2: She's awesome.
Speaker 3: She's awesome.
Speaker 2: I don't know what she's like with boys, but she
Speaker 2: was like so cool, she super cool, like super cool woman. Okay,
Speaker 2: Sophia Bush, do you still talk to her?
Speaker 1: I see her from time to time like fan events,
Speaker 1: but no, we don't talk on a regular basis.
Speaker 3: But she's great.
Speaker 2: Did Helen Earmuffs Did you date anyone in that movie scenes?
Speaker 3: No? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I've heard to do something.
Speaker 3: I'm friend.
Speaker 2: I tried to do some deep diving on you, and
Speaker 2: there's nothing. I never would have dated you back then.
Speaker 3: Like you Yeah, I hear you, yea.
Speaker 2: Why you wouldn't Helen Earmups like back in the early
Speaker 2: two thousands, you wouldn't have dated me? No?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I would have dated you, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't have wanted to date me. It's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I want to know, like what, there's there's there's other
Speaker 2: layers to you. I believe this. I want to peel
Speaker 2: back the thank you. I can't go wrong. No, it's
Speaker 2: just like, there's no dirt on you.
Speaker 3: Well there's there's there's a little bit, but not too much.
Speaker 2: But that was so his book just came out.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I know she spoke highly of me,
Speaker 3: which was nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She didn't even have anything bad to say about.
Speaker 1: You're breaking that news to my girlfriend live by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know, she's okay, she saw it all. I
Speaker 1: tried to keep that from her.
Speaker 2: I mean, what but that was like when that was
Speaker 2: were you dating.
Speaker 3: A long time ago? Twenty years ago?
Speaker 2: So okay, this is a great example. I feel that
Speaker 2: females and males see things differently in youth. So whereas
Speaker 2: what I would be like, oh I was dating him,
Speaker 2: he'd be like, we were just hanging out. She said
Speaker 2: she was dating you. Do you feel like you were
Speaker 2: dating her?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: We were. We were we were dating.
Speaker 1: I mean it was overall, it was pretty brief, but
Speaker 1: we were seeing each other on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: What did we call it back then like now, people
Speaker 2: were like, oh, I'm seeing each other.
Speaker 3: Seeing each other, seeing each other.
Speaker 2: But now technology, no one sees each other. Like it's
Speaker 2: all texting, like I'm talking with somebody. My kids will
Speaker 2: say it's like talking, but then they never No, they.
Speaker 3: Don't even get to see it. It's photos before it
Speaker 3: even started.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know. Okay, where'd you guys meet mask?
Speaker 1: We met through a mutual friend who happened to be
Speaker 1: her boss. Yeah, so so her but her boss and
Speaker 1: I to the same gym, and he had mentioned that
Speaker 1: she thought I was handsome, and we ended up going
Speaker 1: out and the rest of the rest is history.
Speaker 3: Of course, I can I take direction.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, Helen, this that's why you get all
Speaker 2: those brand deals, because you're just so. You're the good guy.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you. I try to be. I
Speaker 3: try to be.
Speaker 2: You should have been cast in Twilight.
Speaker 3: That my work in progress.
Speaker 2: He should have been Taylor Lotner's.
Speaker 3: You want to know.
Speaker 1: What's funny about being cast in Twilight or being cast
Speaker 1: as a vampire. I got a great, great story.
Speaker 3: Vampire Diaries.
Speaker 1: Yes, I auditioned for that show and I'll never forget
Speaker 1: a really high up executive at c W was like,
Speaker 1: you could never play a vampire because you have two
Speaker 1: nights of a face.
Speaker 3: That's what she said to me. She said, you look
Speaker 3: like too nice of a guy to play a vampire.
Speaker 2: The story of your life. No, right there, you go,
Speaker 2: right there?
Speaker 1: Wheat.
Speaker 2: Oh but he wasn't a vampire. He was a were wolf. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: could you have played that?
Speaker 3: I don't know who knows?
Speaker 2: Nope, too nice?
Speaker 3: Too nice?
Speaker 2: Is he really too nice?
Speaker 3: I'm not really that nice.
Speaker 2: You're not Okay, okay, I just got.
Speaker 3: Believe me.
Speaker 2: I know you're a sports guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a sports guy. I'm insta
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, nom. Instagram is not always accurate, you know.
Speaker 2: Do you do your own Instagram?
Speaker 3: My girlfriend Helen helps me with a lot of my.
Speaker 1: Content, you know, I'm I'm I've become more adept at
Speaker 1: curating my my social media. But obviously a man of
Speaker 1: forty six years old, I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: a pretty steep learning curve, you know.
Speaker 2: I means that's what we do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to adapt. Have about yourself? Was that
Speaker 3: an easy? Was it easy for you to adapt? It
Speaker 3: wasn't easy at first for me.
Speaker 1: Because We were told for so many years that we
Speaker 1: had to maintain our mistique. Yes, you know, you didn't
Speaker 1: want to put too much out there. You didn't want
Speaker 1: to give people too much. You didn't want to share
Speaker 1: too much about your personal life. And now it's like
Speaker 1: share everything, right.
Speaker 2: We're from the school of like media trained, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't want to hear from you, they want to
Speaker 2: see you, they don't want to know anything personal. There
Speaker 2: was no paparazzi back then. One paparazzo take a picture
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, may I ask like, can I
Speaker 2: have a photo of you outside of like some restaurant?
Speaker 2: But yeah, well I did reality TV and wrote books
Speaker 2: and then just shared everything. Yeah, and now I can't
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 3: No, you can't.
Speaker 2: I know you read it at all. Or oh, I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm ever going to get like a Hain steal?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: Was I ever going to? Because I'm not like, I'm
Speaker 2: I think you.
Speaker 3: Perfect for a Hanes campaign? What do you mean? Wait?
Speaker 2: I know I would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll put in a good word.
Speaker 2: I think I'm polarizing.
Speaker 3: I can relate, Yeah, I can relate.
Speaker 1: I I I Throughout my life people have either loved
Speaker 1: me or hated me, anyone hate you.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got a lot of.
Speaker 2: This morning, And I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: No. I got a lot of criticism growing up for
Speaker 1: the way I looked, you know.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of hate, a lot of hate.
Speaker 1: And I think that kind of continued, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of like resurfaced again once I got into Hollywood and
Speaker 1: broke as an actor. I mean, it's it's tough, you know,
Speaker 1: you were talking about paparazzi. I came up during the
Speaker 1: time of internet media, you know, where tabloid media really exploded.
Speaker 2: Starting during the years, So I mean it was it.
Speaker 3: Was pretty brutal, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I dealt with a lot of just a
Speaker 1: lot of scrutiny, a lot of a lot of criticism.
Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, would they say that it's just.
Speaker 3: Picking apart my appearance?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So this is interesting because I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't understand that what others may perceive is good looking.
Speaker 2: People get bullied as well, oh totally, and might not
Speaker 2: feel good about themselves.
Speaker 1: Bullied my whole life, you know, through my adolescence and
Speaker 1: and and even in Hollywood. The funny thing is people
Speaker 1: don't realize how harsh the industry was in the Y
Speaker 1: two K era. I mean, and now it's softened up completely,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean now it's kind of like you
Speaker 1: can't say anything because you might offend this person or
Speaker 1: that or that or this group or that group.
Speaker 2: I mean it's Oh are you talking about that? It's
Speaker 2: really changed that we all touched a lot back then.
Speaker 3: That we all touched a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh what are you talking to I'm just.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the fact that like that, like
Speaker 1: the media was just really really brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people in general, like people in sets are brutal.
Speaker 2: Now people, it's just different. It's just a different time.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a different time. Definitely a different time. But
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, also, I mean I've also dealt with.
Speaker 1: Other things within the industry too, Like, like I've had
Speaker 1: a lot of people say that I'm like difficult to
Speaker 1: work with.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, I had never heard that.
Speaker 1: And and honestly, I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: that maybe just didn't like me kind of tried to
Speaker 1: like hurt my career, you know, or like smear me
Speaker 1: or like character assassinate me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny before before you know, you showed up today
Speaker 1: we were we were touching on an actor named Olivia
Speaker 1: Munn who was just in a show that we really
Speaker 1: like call Your Friends and Neighbors.
Speaker 3: She was great, she was great on the show, great
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 1: But I saw an interview recently where she came forward
Speaker 1: and she said that she felt as though a director
Speaker 1: because she was on that really critically acclaimed show Newsroom
Speaker 1: Right Put. And she said that a director on that
Speaker 1: show labeled her difficult to work with and that it
Speaker 1: really hurt her career, you know, for a period. And
Speaker 1: it's like literally, you know, one or two sort of
Speaker 1: older people, directors, maybe producers, maybe executives can say can basically.
Speaker 3: Just like Blackball, you you know, and they don't really
Speaker 3: have to point to anything specific.
Speaker 1: They can just go they can just give you the
Speaker 1: moniker difficult to work with, right.
Speaker 2: And it can mean anything. I was just talking to
Speaker 2: an actor recently about this, and he was saying, one time,
Speaker 2: it felt strongly about something that had to do with
Speaker 2: the scene, and he was just like, didn't come out
Speaker 2: of his trailer for a second. But they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: he wouldn't come out of his trailer, and so if
Speaker 2: you could go back, could you pinpoint when someone might
Speaker 2: have said that, not who it was, but what type
Speaker 2: of behavior.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean it's like direct people really want actors
Speaker 1: to be seen and kind of not heard. I mean,
Speaker 1: they want you to kind of come prepared beyond time,
Speaker 1: hit your mark, do your job.
Speaker 3: They don't really want to hear your opinion. That's really
Speaker 3: that's really the problem.
Speaker 2: Don't don't don't gave your opinion.
Speaker 1: I just saw another quote yesterday from you know, David
Speaker 1: corn Sweat the New Superman. Yes, he said he was
Speaker 1: asking too many questions on set and James Gunn told
Speaker 1: him to shut the f up. So it's like, you
Speaker 1: can't ask too many questions as an actor on set
Speaker 1: otherwise done, somebody goes you're difficult to work with.
Speaker 2: See I thought like nowadays they don't care, like no
Speaker 2: one cares if you're difficult like Batman. Wait, I want
Speaker 2: to deeper into this.
Speaker 3: Definitely, it's definitely a thing. It's definitely a thing.
Speaker 2: Like are we talking Desperate Housewives space?
Speaker 1: Now, Desperate Housewives was a dream. Desperate house was a dream,
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 2: Mean I mean the reimagining of it.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they did come forward and say they're
Speaker 1: not usually any of the original cast. I mean, who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be the exception, but we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a whole different show.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, which I think sometimes is disappointing to fans.
Speaker 3: Definitely disappointing to fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the other nine O two and zero. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a great show by itself. And I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about the reimagining that we did, but the other
Speaker 2: one on CW that it was just a different show
Speaker 2: with a different.
Speaker 3: Casts, different show.
Speaker 2: But people were sad not to have like all of
Speaker 2: us in it. Well, I was in it two episodes.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: M John Tucker must die. Wait when did this happen
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you weigh in, if you don't
Speaker 1: stay in your lane as an actor, you will get
Speaker 1: labeled difficult to work with, if you have.
Speaker 3: Issues writing, if you have issues with the storytelling.
Speaker 1: I I think you came up at a very different time, toy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think that the patients that producers, executives and directors
Speaker 1: have for actors now is.
Speaker 3: Very very little. They have very little patients.
Speaker 2: I understand, but you're not talking about now. It's just
Speaker 2: early two thousands ques.
Speaker 1: I'm even talking about now, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's such it's such a mass. It's there's
Speaker 1: so many everyone has such a huge ego, you know,
Speaker 1: and there's just not enough room for too many opinions.
Speaker 3: And you really got to know when and where it's appropriate.
Speaker 1: To share your opinion exactly exactly if you have a
Speaker 1: bleached chairs. No, yeah, but that's an interesting question.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I made a love I wow, this is
Speaker 2: really interesting hearing from sorry not to like say, you know,
Speaker 2: male female, but a lot of times you hear what
Speaker 2: you're saying exactly from women, but not a lot from men.
Speaker 2: So this is like a whole new fresh take on
Speaker 2: I don't know. So what if we had had it
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Over, I'd probably do some things a little differently, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's really.
Speaker 2: Important to give your opinion, your opinion.
Speaker 1: So it's it's probably how you deliver your opinion, you know,
Speaker 1: which has a huge part to play and how people
Speaker 1: receive it. You want to make you want to you
Speaker 1: want to be collaborative, and you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that people feel.
Speaker 3: Respected.
Speaker 1: You know, when you have an interaction with somebody, you
Speaker 1: want to make sure that when you leave that interaction
Speaker 1: that you leave the other person foreling feeling good. And
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if I was as conscious as
Speaker 1: I should have been, you know about those things exactly.
Speaker 3: I was young, Right.
Speaker 2: Do you play chess?
Speaker 3: I don't play chess.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either, But I play life chess like
Speaker 2: a mofo. And it's a game of chess. It's about
Speaker 2: reading the room, and it's about leading with a positive
Speaker 2: and then not a negative, but going in with it's.
Speaker 3: It's exhausting because you're acting twenty four, So it's.
Speaker 2: Kissing ass and then it's getting what you wanted to
Speaker 2: kiss a whole other ass.
Speaker 3: Early in my career either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, this is the stuff I never knew about you,
Speaker 2: like I from the outside perspective, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: be just a viewer fangirl right now. Like I would
Speaker 2: have thought, like you had it so easy, like you could.
Speaker 1: A lot of things did come to me really easily,
Speaker 1: but there I had. I had my challenges as well.
Speaker 3: I mean we all do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were how old when you got famous?
Speaker 3: Twenty four? Okay, so but I was young twenty four.
Speaker 2: I was pretty immature, really, Yeah, you ever had long hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had long hair in high school.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never revisited the long hair.
Speaker 2: Would you like him a longer hair? Not long?
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of had like a slicked back,
Speaker 1: sort of gweedo thing going on for a while.
Speaker 3: But I mean in high school I had hair like
Speaker 3: down to my chin. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think, I mean, yeah, I need you to
Speaker 2: send me a picture. But I just feel like you've
Speaker 2: always had kind of the same look.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, maybe you used to think it's not for
Speaker 3: me to switch up my look. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah I think I mean I'm feeling like, okay, wait,
Speaker 2: so you said you want to get married by fifty
Speaker 2: like George Cloty, but you're you're.
Speaker 3: More not rough things, you know.
Speaker 2: Four years later? Are you a foodie? Oh?
Speaker 1: I like food. I wouldn't call myself a foody. I
Speaker 1: don't really have that refine of a palette. I'll eat anything.
Speaker 2: Wait, does I mean you're not a foodie?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well I love food, Like do you get that happy
Speaker 2: like happy and dance like when you like good food?
Speaker 2: Me too, so did Yeah, it's not about a refined palate. Looz. Boosh,
Speaker 2: he's eating what moores.
Speaker 1: Literallyes, I'll just eat.
Speaker 2: Do you eat sushi?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you love sushi?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Do you eat meat?
Speaker 3: I eat a lot of meat? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, mean potatoes guy? Yeah, okay, you lost me at sushi.
Speaker 2: Gave me meat and potatoes?
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: Do you like stew chili?
Speaker 3: I love stew? Love chili?
Speaker 2: Oh, I love beef. Sorry, sorry came out. When I
Speaker 2: talk about food, I get really excited. Do you like food, Helen?
Speaker 3: Food?
Speaker 2: Okay? Good? I could eat all day long? Old? Do
Speaker 2: you thirty one? You're so lucky you can still eat
Speaker 2: all day on anything? I love tacobill. Do you like
Speaker 2: Taco Bell? Yeah, tacoball and McDonald's which.
Speaker 3: One probably McDonald's for me, But I do like Taco Bell.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's your go to order?
Speaker 1: I get like a ten piece chicken nugget, two classic cheeseburgers,
Speaker 1: a super size fry, and of an ella milkshake.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's order and they die?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sweet and sour sauce.
Speaker 2: You just laid that down, you guys. If I if
Speaker 2: you can see him right now with so much confidence
Speaker 2: that oh all right, Helen, I want to make out
Speaker 2: with your boyfriend. Now and only because of this McDonald's order. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I know everybody else has ulterior motives. Now, that was
Speaker 2: like crazy, Okay, wait, onions on it?
Speaker 1: Pickles just whatever comes on it. I don't really, I
Speaker 1: don't really customize it. Yeah, pickles and pickles and onions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't stand people that don't like pickles.
Speaker 3: It's a red flag.
Speaker 2: Oh what's your refrigerator at all times?
Speaker 1: Diet peach, snapple, iced tea, milk, whole whole milk, good boy?
Speaker 3: Yeah I drink whole milk.
Speaker 2: Yeah you do you should?
Speaker 3: Yeah, whole milk.
Speaker 2: Wow, you drink oat milk all day?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: I said that with conviction, like I didn't really care
Speaker 2: or judge. You buy it like I just said it, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's inspired me here. I'm like going
Speaker 2: strong now, okay, wait, what would people be surprised to
Speaker 2: see in your.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I drink the whole milk from the carton.
Speaker 3: I just started buying raw, whole milk.
Speaker 2: Raw milk controversy.
Speaker 3: But it's just what's the controversy. I'm not aware.
Speaker 2: You're You can ask me to be smart right now.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: I don't know, he said, it's not good for us, right,
Speaker 2: the raw milk. Yeah, it's great propaganda.
Speaker 3: I mean, what would people be surprised that was in
Speaker 3: the refrigerator? I don't know. I mean I do take
Speaker 3: a lot of sees.
Speaker 1: I take a lot of vitamins, and I take take
Speaker 1: like liquid collagen. I take liquid vitamins, I take creatine.
Speaker 3: I take a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: How many pills a day?
Speaker 3: Oh, I take I take a lot. Oh. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: into the bio hacking.
Speaker 2: I want to do that.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of effort, that's for sure. I don't
Speaker 3: have I don't. Yeah, I don't know if you want
Speaker 3: to put it all that effort.
Speaker 2: Into it, yeah, Jesse earmuffs. Do you guys want kids?
Speaker 2: I do. I'm perplexed by you. Helen Armus forty six
Speaker 2: and you've never been married.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. My mom's been married and divorced
Speaker 3: okay four times.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, so that's sort of the example that
Speaker 1: I grew up with. You know, I may be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a commitment fob. I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of long term relationships. I've been very very close to marriage,
Speaker 1: but no, I haven't made it down the Aisle.
Speaker 2: So in the past when people say I hate this,
Speaker 2: this is still like new terminology red flag or green flag.
Speaker 1: That you are well, you know, I think if I
Speaker 1: was talking to a man, this would be a different conversation,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, what's so great about getting married? Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh, I can have this conversation with you. I'm going
Speaker 2: through my second force nothing.
Speaker 3: How do I benefit?
Speaker 2: How does anyone benefit? It's an archaic term, like it's
Speaker 2: just it's.
Speaker 3: Pretty it's pretty archaic. Yeah, it's pretty archaic. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: there's there's a there's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Successful unions out there, especially in Hollywood, people that have
Speaker 1: been together forever and have children and I've never been
Speaker 1: married And.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen because I've seen a lot of this,
Speaker 2: people that were together for years and then get married
Speaker 2: and getting divorced.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Yeah, that's it's insanely ironic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Khazaria and Helen Hunt, we're like one of those
Speaker 2: couples like, yeah, anyway, will I ever get married again?
Speaker 2: In nasty? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes, Jesse, will you ever get married again?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do like to well, no, I if someone came
Speaker 1: in and swept you off your feet, you'd get married again.
Speaker 2: I let me tell you why, because I really love
Speaker 2: I'm a great party planner, so I love throwing a
Speaker 2: great party. I love fashion, I love food. I love
Speaker 2: a good thing. Like I don't know, but would I
Speaker 2: ever get married just to get I don't know. M
Speaker 2: Like if I was with someone and the kids wanted
Speaker 2: me to, maybe that would be different. But I don't
Speaker 2: really see a point because you can be together because
Speaker 2: guess what, Like maybe back then they thought, well you're married, like,
Speaker 2: they won't cheat on you, but it will still cheat
Speaker 2: when they're married like that, that's a hold up. So
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you get except a piece of paper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a contract.
Speaker 2: So it's a contracts Who get's commissioned on that though?
Speaker 1: I know exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whoever makes less money
Speaker 1: gets commissioned. Fair.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair. Wait, no, Helen, I'll I'll,
Speaker 2: I'll still participate. I'll come to your wedding.
Speaker 3: Helen comes from a very nuclear family.
Speaker 1: Fine, her parents have been together forever and she's the
Speaker 1: eldest of seven seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have five kids.
Speaker 2: Your parents had seven seven. You're the eldest, you're like,
Speaker 2: my Stella is the eldest daughter in the family, which
Speaker 2: she calls herself the second parent. She basically says that
Speaker 2: she raised my eight year old. That's what I say. Really,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, But you still want kids even after
Speaker 2: all that. She used to really want kids, and now
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm not sure. I'm like, listen, you're seventeen.
Speaker 2: It's going to go back and forth when it's the
Speaker 2: right person. Yeah, wow, Okay, we have four years. I mean,
Speaker 2: you put it out there.
Speaker 3: I did put it out there. I know I didn't
Speaker 3: have to do that.
Speaker 2: Would you do that to yourself?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're still going strong four years from
Speaker 1: now and we're not married, I'm happy to get married.
Speaker 3: That'll be I think that'll be a good sign.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Like, a woman doesn't want to
Speaker 2: interet a time, okay on this day. A woman doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be called a girlfriend forever. Like I feel like, no, no,
Speaker 2: my partner sounds not great. So what's the burbage you
Speaker 2: would use?
Speaker 3: If it's not white, probably your partner.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Yeah, it's got to be something
Speaker 2: a little sexier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, because it's like sounds a little same sex,
Speaker 1: doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your business partner, yeah, I don't know. I have
Speaker 2: work partners, like I don't want my life partner or
Speaker 2: it's my life partner people, Yeah, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a little dress sexy about that. It's my bride, but.
Speaker 3: Like no, there is for sure. And making that kind
Speaker 3: of commitment too, I mean, that's it.
Speaker 2: You can be committed without, but.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's you know, putting putting it down
Speaker 1: on paper and really making that that gesture, that commitment.
Speaker 1: I I do think there's a romantic element to it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very traditional, but tradition, tradition can be romantic.
Speaker 2: I think tradition is wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I'd like to think I'm only going
Speaker 1: to do it once if I do do it, so
Speaker 1: I'm taking my time.
Speaker 2: I like this guy. I'm on board Ellen stamp of approval,
Speaker 2: no problem if sorry. When you have kids, do you
Speaker 2: want boys or girls? Weren't a lot girls? He wants girls.
Speaker 2: He would be the best I want.
Speaker 3: I want to I want a girl. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: probably have two kids. A boy and a girl would
Speaker 3: be amazing. Obvious they would be perfect, perfect twins.
Speaker 2: Well, you've taken so long. By the time you go
Speaker 2: to do it, you can probably just like switch and
Speaker 2: get what you want.
Speaker 3: Well, that's yeah, that's what we'll do.
Speaker 2: What is it spinning the sperm? Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: And I have no idea. I never never heard of
Speaker 3: such a thing.
Speaker 2: He's telling the truth. Wait, no, there's a thing. I
Speaker 2: think there is. Yeah, so they okay, they Yeah, they
Speaker 2: take out your sperm. I don't know. That sounded awfully
Speaker 2: painful and they picked that. I don't know either. Theology. Wow, anyway,
Speaker 2: it's costs a lot of money. And you can choose
Speaker 2: whether you have a boy.
Speaker 1: I mean you can pretty much choose anything, can't you.
Speaker 1: But you can design your baby. Yeah, I think you can.
Speaker 1: You can choose a lot of things. Actually, if you
Speaker 1: wanted to do that that takes.
Speaker 2: The traditional event, I feel like that would bump you out.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, don't you hope they have his eyes?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had pretty babies. Have you ever tried to
Speaker 2: put your photos into AI and see what your baby?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: That sounds fun, though it can be very disappointing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sometimes the prettiest people have the ugliest baby that doesn't happen?
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: It does happen? It does? We two have all all over.
Speaker 1: Can care, all over skincare. Well, I know, I suppose
Speaker 1: you could use these products. They're not intended to be
Speaker 1: used anywhere else other than your face, but you know
Speaker 1: these products are so clean and so John tole, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you could use them anywhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I really don't have that many wrinkles, But
Speaker 2: my elbows are really wrinkling.
Speaker 3: That's to common.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wrinkley elbows. Can you get maybe, but bowtox in
Speaker 1: your elbow?
Speaker 2: Can?
Speaker 3: I probably? I heard you can get bowtoks in your
Speaker 3: in your balls, in your ball sack. I don't know
Speaker 3: why I said that, but I did.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I read an article that says that you can like
Speaker 3: botox your your balls if they're like super wrinkly, because
Speaker 3: you want them to just you know, your wrinkly balls.
Speaker 3: I mean they're not necessarily smooth. You know, they're kind
Speaker 3: of wrinkly, like.
Speaker 2: Your young ball smooth. I don't remember. Wait, wait, the
Speaker 2: balls get clear, thought, they just get longer.
Speaker 3: This is contagious. I'm getting like a case of the tories.
Speaker 3: Over there.
Speaker 2: My day. Wait, I'm super fascinated by that, because why
Speaker 2: would you want to you would have to be so like,
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't see them.
Speaker 3: I'm not really want to see them.
Speaker 1: Way again, I don't know why I brought that up.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a concern, but I did see something.
Speaker 3: Along those lines. I mean, you can botox anything. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's a botox or armpit. You know.
Speaker 2: You well that's sweat, yeah right, that's for something different.
Speaker 2: You're wearing loafers.
Speaker 1: I am Yeah, I love a loafer. You're making me
Speaker 1: really silly right now, really embarrass myself.
Speaker 2: Good, this is great. What's next?
Speaker 3: I don't know what's next for me, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a couple of small movies coming out,
Speaker 1: but I'll be honest, you know, the industry has been
Speaker 1: pretty challenging at the moment. You know, I definitely get
Speaker 1: some nice opportunities to audition for some some big shows.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was recently guest starred on a
Speaker 1: Law and Order, which was super fun, and I was
Speaker 1: kind of hoping that would turn into a series regular,
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe it will in the future. You know,
Speaker 1: they they definitely. You know, Dick Wolf has a ton
Speaker 1: of shows on the air, and I would love to
Speaker 1: find a place on one of them, should he see
Speaker 1: fit to offer me that kind of opportunity.
Speaker 3: But I'm you know, I'd love to be back on TV.
Speaker 3: It's been a minute, or movies or well, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I.
Speaker 1: I kind of jump around from like independent films, independent
Speaker 1: film but there's nothing like, you know, the steady work
Speaker 1: of being on a television show and being able to
Speaker 1: really dig into one character over a long period of time.
Speaker 3: I like the consistency.
Speaker 1: I like the stability, you know, and if if you
Speaker 1: love the show you're on and the character that you're playing,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's like, there's no better job in the world.
Speaker 3: Really, I know.
Speaker 2: It's so yeah, we work for Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 3: I've never worked for Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 1: I've met Ryan Murphy at the gym that I work
Speaker 1: out at, you know, his partner, uh is It works
Speaker 1: out at dog Pound in West.
Speaker 3: Hollywood, and I see him all the time. He's great.
Speaker 3: And Ryan's been in there a couple of times.
Speaker 2: With your future wife, you met Ryan Murphy work.
Speaker 3: Out, So Ryan's been in there a couple of times.
Speaker 1: He's incredibly talented, obviously super prolific. You know, it seems
Speaker 1: like everything he touches turns to gold. Obviously it would
Speaker 1: be incredible.
Speaker 2: To until oriented one of.
Speaker 3: His shows or just you know, completely catapults your career.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like that's a good fit for you.
Speaker 2: I'm looking that out there, and I feel like he
Speaker 2: would love you because you're he left nostalgia and he
Speaker 2: loves a shortlist man, and you've done a lot of that.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've done my first share.
Speaker 2: And you look great and you're a great actor. Wait,
Speaker 2: how do we sell this to him right now?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think we're selling it to him
Speaker 3: right now. Maybe he'll hear this.
Speaker 2: I beg. I beg weekly for him, But tessaly something
Speaker 2: and I've gotten.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love I absolutely love his shows. His shows
Speaker 3: are incredible.
Speaker 2: Do you like horror films?
Speaker 3: They're not my favorite?
Speaker 2: Have you been one? I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in several horror films. Oh, I mean
Speaker 3: a movie called The Tortured. I don't know what other
Speaker 3: horror films.
Speaker 1: I was just in a horror I have a horror
Speaker 1: film coming out, Possession at Gladstone manor Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: that's that's coming out later this year.
Speaker 3: That is sad. But yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really love horror movies. Some people are just,
Speaker 1: you know, obsessed with horror.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed. Do you like horror? Fiones? Oh for each other?
Speaker 2: Anything gory, bloody? Can't like watch the Eyes Closed, would you?
Speaker 2: I guess they don't really make them anymore, but like
Speaker 2: a sitcom, they do make them.
Speaker 3: Especially with a lot of audience.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's nothing like I was on.
Speaker 3: I was on Two.
Speaker 1: Broke Girls for an episode and I had the best
Speaker 1: time on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2: There's nothing like that live audience.
Speaker 3: I know, love energy for sure.
Speaker 2: It's so great. And people can't understand that, aren't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's getting those laughs firsthand. We've done theater.
Speaker 3: None, never done a plan in my life.
Speaker 1: I came dangerous close to booking Frankie and Johnny on
Speaker 1: the West End, but it didn't happen, you know, And
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just, uh, I guess I've just
Speaker 1: never really pushed hard enough.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I've definitely talked to my representation.
Speaker 1: About possibly doing theater sort of you know, back in
Speaker 1: the day a little bit, but it just never really happened.
Speaker 3: But I would love I would love the opportunity. It
Speaker 3: seems like an incredible experience.
Speaker 2: Like Xanna, do you and great? You roller skate?
Speaker 3: I can roller skate.
Speaker 1: I'm not an avid roller skater, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'm capable.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Half the people listening won't get that reference. Your bride
Speaker 2: doesn't get that reference.
Speaker 3: No, no, no no. We've definitely aged ourselves with the Zamia.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was Olivia Newton, John John Travolta. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then it was on Broadway for years. My friend James
Speaker 2: Nlo played late. Okay, are you done? Are you ready
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 3: Did you see that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course, see everything, my friend. We did well
Speaker 2: here that we did.
Speaker 1: I think we covered a lot of ground, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy to come back and cover more ground anytime.
Speaker 3: Really, absolutely, I love you. You're great.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love you too. You know what's
Speaker 2: great about doing this podcast is I'm reconnecting with people
Speaker 2: that and I tried hard for the last few days
Speaker 2: to think where we ever connected, and we.
Speaker 3: Never really crossed.
Speaker 1: Beeths Okay, okay, here here's a connection. Rest is soul. Yes,
Speaker 1: Michael Mirash, do you know who Michael Mirror shows. I
Speaker 1: know the name, but okay, Michael mirrorsh Okay, I get
Speaker 1: events and I used to run clubs. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: back in the day, and.
Speaker 3: The Mexican restaurant that that was once a club. What's
Speaker 3: the name of the club? What's the name of the club?
Speaker 3: Hold on? So this is like, this is like back
Speaker 3: when when you really.
Speaker 1: First you know, broke on nine on two and I
Speaker 1: and you and and Shannon.
Speaker 3: Doherty would go out to this club, the Roxbury.
Speaker 2: So the Roxbury. But then what you're saying is it
Speaker 2: ended up being like Prenk.
Speaker 1: Taco's exactly, exactly, yes, something something along those lines. Well,
Speaker 1: Michael Mirash was a close personal friend of mine. He
Speaker 1: used to do these charity basketball games that I used
Speaker 1: to participate in. But he used to tell me stories
Speaker 1: about when he used to like run this this nightclub
Speaker 1: and and all the young actors from NIS who and
Speaker 1: I used to come to this nightbe go to the Roxbury.
Speaker 2: You know, did he tell you I peted at booth
Speaker 2: under the table?
Speaker 3: He never mentioned that Flowers.
Speaker 2: I was really I apologize, but.
Speaker 3: You know, so we were talking about the fact.
Speaker 1: That you could come up in the industry and have
Speaker 1: a good time, and you didn't really have to worry
Speaker 1: about people taking cell phone photos of you or didn't
Speaker 1: have to worry about paparazzi.
Speaker 3: Well, you definitely enjoyed those perks like early, early, earlier
Speaker 3: in your career.
Speaker 1: I've heard some stories that, you know, can you tell
Speaker 1: me guys were like kind of wild. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't really go in the specifics per se, you know,
Speaker 1: but he just said that he knew all of you
Speaker 1: and I actually I think dated Shannon briefly.
Speaker 2: I think I call this okay, yes, and.
Speaker 1: That you guys were out a lot. We were enjoying
Speaker 1: the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 2: I was a good girl, though, like I didn't do
Speaker 2: drugs like I. We would do a lot of shots.
Speaker 2: What was that green drink? Majory? Okay thoughts which didn't
Speaker 2: look good coming back up?
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't think so.
Speaker 2: My mom was real pissed one time when I came
Speaker 2: to the manor like you fell over her carpeted elevator.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I did. I was a kissing bandit,
Speaker 2: but like I wasn't like a naughty girl like I
Speaker 2: didn't sleep with a lot of people.
Speaker 3: So you were a good girl. You were a very
Speaker 3: good girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was fun though, I was really fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, the next time I come on the podcast,
Speaker 1: we need to get more into your life. Your life
Speaker 1: might be a lot more interesting than mine.
Speaker 2: I'm going to a little nuggets down here. I see it,
Speaker 2: I see it. Okay. So yeah, so what I was saying, though,
Speaker 2: it's nice to reconnect or not connect, like all those
Speaker 2: years know each other and get to know each other
Speaker 2: as adults. And it's so I've.
Speaker 3: Always heard I've always heard great things about you, and.
Speaker 2: I've heard great things about you, not kidding from what
Speaker 2: I've heard. No, there's not one person that doesn't think
Speaker 2: you're a nice guy. No one in my gearshot has
Speaker 2: ever said you're difficult to work with. So anyway, it's
Speaker 2: nice to know you as an adult and just have
Speaker 2: a different perspective. And I think you're really cool and
Speaker 2: really fun and and come back anytime, you come back anytime. Well,
Speaker 2: my little whole name here, thanks.
Speaker 1: You having mine, No, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.