1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast. 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, of course literally in person. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for supporting my my skin Caroline. I 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: really appreciate it. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Neutral skin. What what made you come up with that name? 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to do a gender neutral skin Caroline, you know, 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: unisex caroline. 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's the double entendre behind it. 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Also that it's a it's a neutral product in the 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: sense that it's a super clean product. You know, there's 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: no there's no fillers, there's no extras, there's no fragrances, 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: no parabands, no silicones, cruelty free, vegan, organic, all the 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: good stuff. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: And you were nice enough to before this even send 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: me some and I've been using it. How do I like? 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: Of course five kids. I just I don't know. I 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: don't know if we can reverse timing. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: The ethos behind the product is also really just simplifying skincare. 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many product lines, so many products, 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: and you know, most women almost see it as a 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: hobby to sort of pick and choose different products from 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: different lines and put it all together. But then it 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: turns into an eight, nine, ten step routine. And I mean, 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I don't really have 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: time for that. 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: I don't have time for that. Yeah, no one does. 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: But if you saw my counter at home, you would. 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: We were just talking about the same thing before we started. 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have so many products on the counter, it's ridiculous. 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah really, yeah, I mean we really do. 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: We just get gifted a lot of stuff. I mean, 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: that's why I feel like I'm sort of uniquely qualified 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: to push a skincare line, because you know, I've been 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: in front of the camera for like twenty six years 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: and I've tried every product under the song, I mean everything. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you're uniquely qualified to push anything. Oh thank you, Jesse, 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: if you can do whatever the fuck you want. 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know about that, but thank you. 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: No, it's just me nice. So it's not a rule 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: in your house, you guys. Is like that that you 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: can't have just your skincare No, I. 42 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Mean, we definitely have a lot of other products, you know. 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Helen certainly has her favorites from a lot of different lines. 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean this is, you know, for the most part, 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: what I use, you know, but Helen definitely cheats on 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: neutral skin, doesn't she. 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Helen, his girlfriend is here with us, which is 48 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: I had many questions. 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 3: About yeah, many things. 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: About many because I like to just ask crazy ques boundaries. 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: I have no boundary. So I'm staring at Helen when 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: I say this. I'm I should ask Helen what she 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: thinks about these questions I have for you. I actually 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: I don't go into my podcast with questions. It's kind 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: of off the cuff. 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: I love it. 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: I just roll with it. So last night, I'm gonna 58 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: go back to your skincare. But wait, and I'm going 59 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: to be all over the place because that's my brain. 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: But so last night I rewatched John Tucker Must Die 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: with my eight year old. 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Wow, you did your research. I love it. 63 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it came out in two thousand and six, crarect, 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: obviously I watched it back in the day. Wait, so 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: I was a nineties girl. You were two thousands. Just 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: makes it sound longer, like. 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: I graduated high school in ninety six. No on camera, 68 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: on camera, early two thousands, you know. 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: But it doesn't flow when you say it like that, 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Like people were like I loved you. I'm like, yeah, 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: a nineties girl like you can't be like early two 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: thousands die. 73 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have the same ringto it, does it. 74 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't. So what is the thing? It's not why 75 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: two K? 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: I get, it's kind of why two K? I guess, Yeah, 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: why two K? 78 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Where were you on white two K? Like when 79 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: it happened? 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean I was living in it. I mean what 81 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: do you mean? 82 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't really conscious it was happening. Yeah, But looking 83 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: back on it, so. 84 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Two thousand, like, where were you when everyone's like the 85 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: world's going to end? 86 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Like I was just dropping out of college and starting 87 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: a career in acting on a now defunct, ridiculous so. 88 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Far a minute eleven and twelve am, you were just. 89 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Dropping Like that's literally when it happened. 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you remember? We all remember exactly where 91 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: I was. You can't say you didn't remember I was. 92 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: I was in LA. I was brand new to l A. 93 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, an is he avoiding this question? 94 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what I was doing specifically, 95 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: To be honest, that's a fib It's really not. I know, 96 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I know I knew exactly where I was, like when 97 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: nine to eleven happened, But as far as like you know, 98 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: the clock turning to uh, the year two thousand. 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: Were you not worried? 100 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: No? I wasn't. 101 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of talk about all these 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: like computer systems, like you. 103 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Weren't worrying about to be a big star. 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I couldn't use like an ATM 105 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: machine or something. I mean, people were really really freaking 106 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: out over over it becoming the year two thousand. But yeah, 107 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember ever having any major concern around that. 108 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: I remember where I was. 109 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: Where were you about you? 110 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: It's what I do best. I was on a yacht 111 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: in Saint Bart's. 112 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: Sounds nice, I know. 113 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: And my daughter who's seventeen, just went to Saint Bart's 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: with her friends like it was her best friend's birthday 115 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: and their family has money and their grade and they 116 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: took all her friends and I was like, oh my god, girl, 117 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Like you're like you're living my life, living the dress 118 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: that was my life. Things have changed. But yeah, I 119 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: remember we were all like drinking champagne and we were like, okay, 120 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: this might be it. 121 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: See you didn't sound like you were your concerned either. 122 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: Sounded like you were pretty relaxed. 123 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I was on a yacht. 124 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, Oh so I was, it's amazing how oblivious 125 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: you are when you're young. When you're young and you're 126 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: having some success and you're enjoying your life, you know, 127 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: and then as you get older, you get more riddled 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: with anxiety and more aware of everything that's going on 129 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: around you, more stressed out. 130 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I know, I found that to be true. 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, Is he stressed a lot? 132 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So I rewatched it last night, and that movie 134 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: still stands. 135 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: Up, thank you. 136 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 137 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: It got absolutely panned when it came out, but it 138 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: became oviscerated. 139 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it became like such a cult rom com that, like, yeah. 140 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: It really did. I mean, it really stood the test 141 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: of time, which is wild. 142 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Are they making a reboot? I heard word. 143 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: There's a script. There's there's a script. There's a sequel script. 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: I've read the script. It's that twentieth century Fox. But 145 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: if I had to go with my gut, I'd say 146 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna happen. Why. 147 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, because because they've been sitting on the 148 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: script for a while. 149 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: Everyone in the cast said they'd participate and it just 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. 151 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: Who would you play? 152 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: Would I play? I would play a grown up John Tucker. 153 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be funny. 154 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: If you played someone else, it could be interesting, But 155 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the I don't think that's the 156 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: game plan here, Tory. 157 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: So what it's like, John Tucker Junior must die. 158 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, to give you a little insight into the script, 159 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I grew up to be the girls basketball coach. 160 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: I just almost hurt. I grew up to be a girl, and. 161 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: That would be interesting. 162 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he unknowingly he took estrogen in the movie. 163 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Exactly, So no, absolutely not, but that ramifications. 164 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: She's put the pills in there. She didn't even crush 165 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: it up, and you didn't even care. You just kept 166 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: put it in your water bottle. Okay. Yeah, and their 167 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: movies were tender. Okay, So okay, go on, Sorry, I 168 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: didn't hear words you said. 169 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: John Tucker becomes the girls basketball coach at his daughter's 170 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: high school. 171 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: I like that. 172 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, So I mean it kind of like karmic retribution. 173 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: He has a daughter, of course, you know, she's dealing 174 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: with a bunch of John Tucker's in her school. That's 175 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the that's the broad premise. Without ruining a movie that's 176 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: not even green light. 177 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: Yet, I feel like you should make this movie. 178 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: Though maybe you're right. 179 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you're right. So who is the rights to it? 180 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: Twentieth century? 181 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: So I worked with Betty Thomas on Troop Beverly Hills. 182 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: That's amazing and I loved her. 183 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: I love her. 184 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: She's she was so great. 185 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: Would she do this one? 186 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I think it'd be really cool. 187 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: She did. 188 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: She's awesome. 189 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: She's awesome. 190 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what she's like with boys, but she 191 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: was like so cool, she super cool, like super cool woman. Okay, 192 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Sophia Bush, do you still talk to her? 193 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: I see her from time to time like fan events, 194 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: but no, we don't talk on a regular basis. 195 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: But she's great. 196 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: Did Helen Earmuffs Did you date anyone in that movie scenes? 197 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: No? I didn't. 198 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: I've heard to do something. 199 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm friend. 200 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: I tried to do some deep diving on you, and 201 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: there's nothing. I never would have dated you back then. 202 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: Like you Yeah, I hear you, yea. 203 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: Why you wouldn't Helen Earmups like back in the early 204 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: two thousands, you wouldn't have dated me? No? 205 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean maybe I would have dated you, I don't know, 206 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't have wanted to date me. It's what 207 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 208 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: I want to know, like what, there's there's there's other 209 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: layers to you. I believe this. I want to peel 210 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: back the thank you. I can't go wrong. No, it's 211 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: just like, there's no dirt on you. 212 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: Well there's there's there's a little bit, but not too much. 213 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: But that was so his book just came out. 214 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I know she spoke highly of me, 215 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 3: which was nice. Yeah. 216 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: She didn't even have anything bad to say about. 217 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: You're breaking that news to my girlfriend live by the way, 218 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, she's okay, she saw it all. I 219 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: tried to keep that from her. 220 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean, what but that was like when that was 221 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: were you dating. 222 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: A long time ago? Twenty years ago? 223 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: So okay, this is a great example. I feel that 224 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: females and males see things differently in youth. So whereas 225 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: what I would be like, oh I was dating him, 226 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: he'd be like, we were just hanging out. She said 227 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: she was dating you. Do you feel like you were 228 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: dating her? 229 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: No? 230 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: We were. We were we were dating. 231 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean it was overall, it was pretty brief, but 232 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: we were seeing each other on a regular basis. 233 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: What did we call it back then like now, people 234 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: were like, oh, I'm seeing each other. 235 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: Seeing each other, seeing each other. 236 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: But now technology, no one sees each other. Like it's 237 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: all texting, like I'm talking with somebody. My kids will 238 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: say it's like talking, but then they never No, they. 239 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: Don't even get to see it. It's photos before it 240 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: even started. 241 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I know. Okay, where'd you guys meet mask? 242 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: We met through a mutual friend who happened to be 243 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: her boss. Yeah, so so her but her boss and 244 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: I to the same gym, and he had mentioned that 245 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: she thought I was handsome, and we ended up going 246 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: out and the rest of the rest is history. 247 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: Of course, I can I take direction. 248 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Well, I know, Helen, this that's why you get all 249 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: those brand deals, because you're just so. You're the good guy. 250 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you. I try to be. I 251 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: try to be. 252 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: You should have been cast in Twilight. 253 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: That my work in progress. 254 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: He should have been Taylor Lotner's. 255 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: You want to know. 256 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: What's funny about being cast in Twilight or being cast 257 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: as a vampire. I got a great, great story. 258 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: Vampire Diaries. 259 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I auditioned for that show and I'll never forget 260 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: a really high up executive at c W was like, 261 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: you could never play a vampire because you have two 262 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: nights of a face. 263 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: That's what she said to me. She said, you look 264 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: like too nice of a guy to play a vampire. 265 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: The story of your life. No, right there, you go, 266 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: right there? 267 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: Wheat. 268 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: Oh but he wasn't a vampire. He was a were wolf. Yeah, yeah, 269 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: could you have played that? 270 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: I don't know who knows? 271 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: Nope, too nice? 272 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: Too nice? 273 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: Is he really too nice? 274 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm not really that nice. 275 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: You're not Okay, okay, I just got. 276 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: Believe me. 277 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: I know you're a sports guy. 278 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a sports guy. I'm insta 279 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, nom. Instagram is not always accurate, you know. 280 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: Do you do your own Instagram? 281 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: My girlfriend Helen helps me with a lot of my. 282 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Content, you know, I'm I'm I've become more adept at 283 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: curating my my social media. But obviously a man of 284 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: forty six years old, I mean it was it was 285 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: a pretty steep learning curve, you know. 286 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: I means that's what we do. 287 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to adapt. Have about yourself? Was that 288 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: an easy? Was it easy for you to adapt? It 289 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: wasn't easy at first for me. 290 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Because We were told for so many years that we 291 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: had to maintain our mistique. Yes, you know, you didn't 292 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: want to put too much out there. You didn't want 293 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: to give people too much. You didn't want to share 294 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: too much about your personal life. And now it's like 295 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: share everything, right. 296 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: We're from the school of like media trained, Like, yeah, 297 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: they don't want to hear from you, they want to 298 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: see you, they don't want to know anything personal. There 299 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: was no paparazzi back then. One paparazzo take a picture 300 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: and be like, oh, may I ask like, can I 301 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: have a photo of you outside of like some restaurant? 302 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, well I did reality TV and wrote books 303 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: and then just shared everything. Yeah, and now I can't 304 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: go back. 305 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: No, you can't. 306 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: I know you read it at all. Or oh, I 307 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: don't think I'm ever going to get like a Hain steal? 308 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: Why not? 309 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: Was I ever going to? Because I'm not like, I'm 310 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: I think you. 311 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: Perfect for a Hanes campaign? What do you mean? Wait? 312 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: I know I would. 313 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll put in a good word. 314 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm polarizing. 315 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: I can relate, Yeah, I can relate. 316 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: I I I Throughout my life people have either loved 317 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: me or hated me, anyone hate you. 318 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I got a lot of. 319 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: This morning, And I'm just kidding. 320 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: No. I got a lot of criticism growing up for 321 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: the way I looked, you know. 322 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of hate, a lot of hate. 323 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: And I think that kind of continued, you know, sort 324 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: of like resurfaced again once I got into Hollywood and 325 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: broke as an actor. I mean, it's it's tough, you know, 326 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: you were talking about paparazzi. I came up during the 327 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: time of internet media, you know, where tabloid media really exploded. 328 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: Starting during the years, So I mean it was it. 329 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: Was pretty brutal, you know. 330 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean I dealt with a lot of just a 331 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: lot of scrutiny, a lot of a lot of criticism. 332 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, would they say that it's just. 333 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: Picking apart my appearance? 334 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: You know. 335 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: So this is interesting because I think a lot of 336 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: people don't understand that what others may perceive is good looking. 337 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: People get bullied as well, oh totally, and might not 338 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: feel good about themselves. 339 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Bullied my whole life, you know, through my adolescence and 340 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: and and even in Hollywood. The funny thing is people 341 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: don't realize how harsh the industry was in the Y 342 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: two K era. I mean, and now it's softened up completely, 343 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: you know. I mean now it's kind of like you 344 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: can't say anything because you might offend this person or 345 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: that or that or this group or that group. 346 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: I mean it's Oh are you talking about that? It's 347 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: really changed that we all touched a lot back then. 348 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: That we all touched a lot. 349 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: Oh what are you talking to I'm just. 350 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the fact that like that, like 351 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: the media was just really really brutal. 352 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, people in general, like people in sets are brutal. 353 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: Now people, it's just different. It's just a different time. 354 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: It's definitely a different time. Definitely a different time. But 355 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, also, I mean I've also dealt with. 356 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Other things within the industry too, Like, like I've had 357 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people say that I'm like difficult to 358 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: work with. 359 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: What Yeah, I had never heard that. 360 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: And and honestly, I feel like a lot of people 361 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: that maybe just didn't like me kind of tried to 362 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: like hurt my career, you know, or like smear me 363 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: or like character assassinate me. 364 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: You know. 365 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: It's funny before before you know, you showed up today 366 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: we were we were touching on an actor named Olivia 367 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Munn who was just in a show that we really 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: like call Your Friends and Neighbors. 369 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: She was great, she was great on the show, great 370 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: on the show. 371 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: But I saw an interview recently where she came forward 372 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: and she said that she felt as though a director 373 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: because she was on that really critically acclaimed show Newsroom 374 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: Right Put. And she said that a director on that 375 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: show labeled her difficult to work with and that it 376 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: really hurt her career, you know, for a period. And 377 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: it's like literally, you know, one or two sort of 378 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: older people, directors, maybe producers, maybe executives can say can basically. 379 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: Just like Blackball, you you know, and they don't really 380 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: have to point to anything specific. 381 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: They can just go they can just give you the 382 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: moniker difficult to work with, right. 383 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: And it can mean anything. I was just talking to 384 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: an actor recently about this, and he was saying, one time, 385 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: it felt strongly about something that had to do with 386 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: the scene, and he was just like, didn't come out 387 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 2: of his trailer for a second. But they were like, oh, 388 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: he wouldn't come out of his trailer, and so if 389 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: you could go back, could you pinpoint when someone might 390 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: have said that, not who it was, but what type 391 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: of behavior. 392 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean it's like direct people really want actors 393 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: to be seen and kind of not heard. I mean, 394 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: they want you to kind of come prepared beyond time, 395 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: hit your mark, do your job. 396 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: They don't really want to hear your opinion. That's really 397 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 3: that's really the problem. 398 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Don't don't don't gave your opinion. 399 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: I just saw another quote yesterday from you know, David 400 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: corn Sweat the New Superman. Yes, he said he was 401 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: asking too many questions on set and James Gunn told 402 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: him to shut the f up. So it's like, you 403 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: can't ask too many questions as an actor on set 404 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: otherwise done, somebody goes you're difficult to work with. 405 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: See I thought like nowadays they don't care, like no 406 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: one cares if you're difficult like Batman. Wait, I want 407 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: to deeper into this. 408 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: Definitely, it's definitely a thing. It's definitely a thing. 409 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: Like are we talking Desperate Housewives space? 410 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Now, Desperate Housewives was a dream. Desperate house was a dream, 411 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: But I. 412 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: Mean I mean the reimagining of it. 413 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean they did come forward and say they're 414 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: not usually any of the original cast. I mean, who knows, 415 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: maybe I'll be the exception, but we'll see. I mean, 416 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a whole different show. 417 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, which I think sometimes is disappointing to fans. 418 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: Definitely disappointing to fans. 419 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the other nine O two and zero. Yeah, 420 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: it was a great show by itself. And I'm not 421 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: talking about the reimagining that we did, but the other 422 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: one on CW that it was just a different show 423 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: with a different. 424 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Casts, different show. 425 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: But people were sad not to have like all of 426 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: us in it. Well, I was in it two episodes. 427 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: That's cool. 428 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: M John Tucker must die. Wait when did this happen 429 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: to you? 430 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you weigh in, if you don't 431 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: stay in your lane as an actor, you will get 432 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: labeled difficult to work with, if you have. 433 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: Issues writing, if you have issues with the storytelling. 434 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: I I think you came up at a very different time, toy. 435 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: You know. 436 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that the patients that producers, executives and directors 437 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: have for actors now is. 438 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: Very very little. They have very little patients. 439 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: I understand, but you're not talking about now. It's just 440 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: early two thousands ques. 441 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm even talking about now, you know. I mean, it's 442 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: just it's it's such it's such a mass. It's there's 443 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: so many everyone has such a huge ego, you know, 444 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: and there's just not enough room for too many opinions. 445 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: And you really got to know when and where it's appropriate. 446 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: To share your opinion exactly exactly if you have a 447 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: bleached chairs. No, yeah, but that's an interesting question. 448 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, I made a love I wow, this is 449 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: really interesting hearing from sorry not to like say, you know, 450 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: male female, but a lot of times you hear what 451 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: you're saying exactly from women, but not a lot from men. 452 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: So this is like a whole new fresh take on 453 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. So what if we had had it 454 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: to do. 455 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Over, I'd probably do some things a little differently, you know. 456 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: I think it's really. 457 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: Important to give your opinion, your opinion. 458 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: So it's it's probably how you deliver your opinion, you know, 459 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: which has a huge part to play and how people 460 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: receive it. You want to make you want to you 461 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: want to be collaborative, and you want to make sure 462 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: that people feel. 463 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: Respected. 464 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: You know, when you have an interaction with somebody, you 465 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: want to make sure that when you leave that interaction 466 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: that you leave the other person foreling feeling good. And 467 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if I was as conscious as 468 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: I should have been, you know about those things exactly. 469 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: I was young, Right. 470 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: Do you play chess? 471 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: I don't play chess. 472 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: No, I don't either, But I play life chess like 473 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: a mofo. And it's a game of chess. It's about 474 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: reading the room, and it's about leading with a positive 475 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: and then not a negative, but going in with it's. 476 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: It's exhausting because you're acting twenty four, So it's. 477 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: Kissing ass and then it's getting what you wanted to 478 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: kiss a whole other ass. 479 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: Early in my career either. 480 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, this is the stuff I never knew about you, 481 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: like I from the outside perspective, and I'm going to 482 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: be just a viewer fangirl right now. Like I would 483 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: have thought, like you had it so easy, like you could. 484 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: A lot of things did come to me really easily, 485 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: but there I had. I had my challenges as well. 486 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: I mean we all do. 487 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were how old when you got famous? 488 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: Twenty four? Okay, so but I was young twenty four. 489 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: I was pretty immature, really, Yeah, you ever had long hair. 490 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had long hair in high school. 491 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: That was it. 492 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never revisited the long hair. 493 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: Would you like him a longer hair? Not long? 494 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of had like a slicked back, 495 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: sort of gweedo thing going on for a while. 496 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: But I mean in high school I had hair like 497 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: down to my chin. Yeah. 498 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 2: I just think, I mean, yeah, I need you to 499 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: send me a picture. But I just feel like you've 500 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: always had kind of the same look. 501 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, maybe you used to think it's not for 502 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 3: me to switch up my look. Is that what you're saying? 503 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah I think I mean I'm feeling like, okay, wait, 504 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: so you said you want to get married by fifty 505 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: like George Cloty, but you're you're. 506 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: More not rough things, you know. 507 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: Four years later? Are you a foodie? Oh? 508 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: I like food. I wouldn't call myself a foody. I 509 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: don't really have that refine of a palette. I'll eat anything. 510 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: Wait, does I mean you're not a foodie? 511 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 512 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: Well I love food, Like do you get that happy 513 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: like happy and dance like when you like good food? 514 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: Me too, so did Yeah, it's not about a refined palate. Looz. Boosh, 515 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: he's eating what moores. 516 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: Literallyes, I'll just eat. 517 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: Do you eat sushi? 518 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 519 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: Do you love sushi? 520 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: No? 521 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: Do you eat meat? 522 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: I eat a lot of meat? Yeah? 523 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, mean potatoes guy? Yeah, okay, you lost me at sushi. 524 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: Gave me meat and potatoes? 525 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Like. 526 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: Do you like stew chili? 527 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 3: I love stew? Love chili? 528 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: Oh, I love beef. Sorry, sorry came out. When I 529 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: talk about food, I get really excited. Do you like food, Helen? 530 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: Food? 531 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: Okay? Good? I could eat all day long? Old? Do 532 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: you thirty one? You're so lucky you can still eat 533 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: all day on anything? I love tacobill. Do you like 534 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: Taco Bell? Yeah, tacoball and McDonald's which. 535 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: One probably McDonald's for me, But I do like Taco Bell. 536 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 537 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: What's your go to order? 538 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: I get like a ten piece chicken nugget, two classic cheeseburgers, 539 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: a super size fry, and of an ella milkshake. 540 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah that's order and they die? 541 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, sweet and sour sauce. 542 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: You just laid that down, you guys. If I if 543 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: you can see him right now with so much confidence 544 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: that oh all right, Helen, I want to make out 545 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: with your boyfriend. Now and only because of this McDonald's order. Sorry, 546 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: I know everybody else has ulterior motives. Now, that was 547 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: like crazy, Okay, wait, onions on it? 548 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Pickles just whatever comes on it. I don't really, I 549 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: don't really customize it. Yeah, pickles and pickles and onions. 550 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't stand people that don't like pickles. 551 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: It's a red flag. 552 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: Oh what's your refrigerator at all times? 553 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Diet peach, snapple, iced tea, milk, whole whole milk, good boy? 554 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah I drink whole milk. 555 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you do you should? 556 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, whole milk. 557 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: Wow, you drink oat milk all day? 558 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: Really? 559 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: I said that with conviction, like I didn't really care 560 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: or judge. You buy it like I just said it, like, 561 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. He's inspired me here. I'm like going 562 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: strong now, okay, wait, what would people be surprised to 563 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: see in your. 564 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 3: I don't know. 565 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: I drink the whole milk from the carton. 566 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: I just started buying raw, whole milk. 567 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: Raw milk controversy. 568 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: But it's just what's the controversy. I'm not aware. 569 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: You're You can ask me to be smart right now. 570 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: I want to. 571 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, he said, it's not good for us, right, 572 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: the raw milk. Yeah, it's great propaganda. 573 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: I mean, what would people be surprised that was in 574 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: the refrigerator? I don't know. I mean I do take 575 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: a lot of sees. 576 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: I take a lot of vitamins, and I take take 577 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: like liquid collagen. I take liquid vitamins, I take creatine. 578 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: I take a lot of stuff. 579 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: How many pills a day? 580 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I take I take a lot. Oh. Yeah, I'm 581 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 3: into the bio hacking. 582 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: I want to do that. 583 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: It's a lot of effort, that's for sure. I don't 584 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: have I don't. Yeah, I don't know if you want 585 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: to put it all that effort. 586 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: Into it, yeah, Jesse earmuffs. Do you guys want kids? 587 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: I do. I'm perplexed by you. Helen Armus forty six 588 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: and you've never been married. 589 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. My mom's been married and divorced 590 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: okay four times. 591 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, so that's sort of the example that 592 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: I grew up with. You know, I may be a 593 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: little bit of a commitment fob. I've had a lot 594 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: of long term relationships. I've been very very close to marriage, 595 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: but no, I haven't made it down the Aisle. 596 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: So in the past when people say I hate this, 597 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: this is still like new terminology red flag or green flag. 598 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: That you are well, you know, I think if I 599 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: was talking to a man, this would be a different conversation, 600 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 601 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's like, what's so great about getting married? Oh? 602 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: Oh, I can have this conversation with you. I'm going 603 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: through my second force nothing. 604 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 3: How do I benefit? 605 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: How does anyone benefit? It's an archaic term, like it's 606 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: just it's. 607 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: Pretty it's pretty archaic. Yeah, it's pretty archaic. Yeah, I mean, 608 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: there's there's a there's a lot of. 609 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: Successful unions out there, especially in Hollywood, people that have 610 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: been together forever and have children and I've never been 611 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: married And. 612 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen because I've seen a lot of this, 613 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: people that were together for years and then get married 614 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: and getting divorced. 615 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Yeah, that's it's insanely ironic. 616 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Khazaria and Helen Hunt, we're like one of those 617 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: couples like, yeah, anyway, will I ever get married again? 618 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: In nasty? Yeah? 619 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: Yes, Jesse, will you ever get married again? 620 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 621 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: I do like to well, no, I if someone came 622 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: in and swept you off your feet, you'd get married again. 623 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: I let me tell you why, because I really love 624 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm a great party planner, so I love throwing a 625 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: great party. I love fashion, I love food. I love 626 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: a good thing. Like I don't know, but would I 627 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: ever get married just to get I don't know. M 628 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: Like if I was with someone and the kids wanted 629 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: me to, maybe that would be different. But I don't 630 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: really see a point because you can be together because 631 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: guess what, Like maybe back then they thought, well you're married, like, 632 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: they won't cheat on you, but it will still cheat 633 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: when they're married like that, that's a hold up. So 634 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you get except a piece of paper. 635 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a contract. 636 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: So it's a contracts Who get's commissioned on that though? 637 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: I know exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whoever makes less money 638 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: gets commissioned. Fair. 639 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair. Wait, no, Helen, I'll I'll, 640 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: I'll still participate. I'll come to your wedding. 641 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: Helen comes from a very nuclear family. 642 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: Fine, her parents have been together forever and she's the 643 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: eldest of seven seven. 644 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have five kids. 645 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: Your parents had seven seven. You're the eldest, you're like, 646 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: my Stella is the eldest daughter in the family, which 647 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: she calls herself the second parent. She basically says that 648 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: she raised my eight year old. That's what I say. Really, 649 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, But you still want kids even after 650 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: all that. She used to really want kids, and now 651 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: she's like, I'm not sure. I'm like, listen, you're seventeen. 652 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: It's going to go back and forth when it's the 653 00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: right person. Yeah, wow, Okay, we have four years. I mean, 654 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: you put it out there. 655 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: I did put it out there. I know I didn't 656 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: have to do that. 657 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: Would you do that to yourself? 658 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 659 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're still going strong four years from 660 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: now and we're not married, I'm happy to get married. 661 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: That'll be I think that'll be a good sign. 662 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Like, a woman doesn't want to 663 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: interet a time, okay on this day. A woman doesn't 664 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: want to be called a girlfriend forever. Like I feel like, no, no, 665 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: my partner sounds not great. So what's the burbage you 666 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: would use? 667 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: If it's not white, probably your partner. 668 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't like that. Yeah, it's got to be something 669 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: a little sexier. 670 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, because it's like sounds a little same sex, 671 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 672 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, your business partner, yeah, I don't know. I have 673 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: work partners, like I don't want my life partner or 674 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: it's my life partner people, Yeah, I know, I don't know. 675 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: There's a little dress sexy about that. It's my bride, but. 676 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 3: Like no, there is for sure. And making that kind 677 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: of commitment too, I mean, that's it. 678 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: You can be committed without, but. 679 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's you know, putting putting it down 680 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: on paper and really making that that gesture, that commitment. 681 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: I I do think there's a romantic element to it. 682 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's very traditional, but tradition, tradition can be romantic. 683 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: I think tradition is wrong. 684 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I I'd like to think I'm only going 685 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: to do it once if I do do it, so 686 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm taking my time. 687 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: I like this guy. I'm on board Ellen stamp of approval, 688 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: no problem if sorry. When you have kids, do you 689 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: want boys or girls? Weren't a lot girls? He wants girls. 690 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: He would be the best I want. 691 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: I want to I want a girl. Yeah, but I 692 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: probably have two kids. A boy and a girl would 693 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: be amazing. Obvious they would be perfect, perfect twins. 694 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: Well, you've taken so long. By the time you go 695 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: to do it, you can probably just like switch and 696 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: get what you want. 697 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's yeah, that's what we'll do. 698 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: What is it spinning the sperm? Is that a thing? 699 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: And I have no idea. I never never heard of 700 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: such a thing. 701 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: He's telling the truth. Wait, no, there's a thing. I 702 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 2: think there is. Yeah, so they okay, they Yeah, they 703 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: take out your sperm. I don't know. That sounded awfully 704 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: painful and they picked that. I don't know either. Theology. Wow, anyway, 705 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 2: it's costs a lot of money. And you can choose 706 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 2: whether you have a boy. 707 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean you can pretty much choose anything, can't you. 708 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: But you can design your baby. Yeah, I think you can. 709 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: You can choose a lot of things. Actually, if you 710 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: wanted to do that that takes. 711 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: The traditional event, I feel like that would bump you out. 712 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. 713 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, don't you hope they have his eyes? 714 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: Though? 715 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had pretty babies. Have you ever tried to 716 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: put your photos into AI and see what your baby? 717 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: No? 718 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: That sounds fun, though it can be very disappointing. Yeah, 719 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: sometimes the prettiest people have the ugliest baby that doesn't happen? 720 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: I have. 721 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: It does happen? It does? We two have all all over. 722 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: Can care, all over skincare. Well, I know, I suppose 723 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: you could use these products. They're not intended to be 724 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: used anywhere else other than your face, but you know 725 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: these products are so clean and so John tole, I'm 726 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: sure you could use them anywhere. 727 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: Okay, because I really don't have that many wrinkles, But 728 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: my elbows are really wrinkling. 729 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: That's to common. 730 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: I think it is. 731 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, wrinkley elbows. Can you get maybe, but bowtox in 732 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: your elbow? 733 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: Can? 734 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: I probably? I heard you can get bowtoks in your 735 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: in your balls, in your ball sack. I don't know 736 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: why I said that, but I did. 737 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: I did. 738 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: I read an article that says that you can like 739 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: botox your your balls if they're like super wrinkly, because 740 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: you want them to just you know, your wrinkly balls. 741 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: I mean they're not necessarily smooth. You know, they're kind 742 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: of wrinkly, like. 743 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: Your young ball smooth. I don't remember. Wait, wait, the 744 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 2: balls get clear, thought, they just get longer. 745 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: This is contagious. I'm getting like a case of the tories. 746 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: Over there. 747 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: My day. Wait, I'm super fascinated by that, because why 748 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: would you want to you would have to be so like, 749 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't see them. 750 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm not really want to see them. 751 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Way again, I don't know why I brought that up. 752 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a concern, but I did see something. 753 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 3: Along those lines. I mean, you can botox anything. I 754 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: don't know if that's a botox or armpit. You know. 755 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 2: You well that's sweat, yeah right, that's for something different. 756 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: You're wearing loafers. 757 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: I am Yeah, I love a loafer. You're making me 758 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 1: really silly right now, really embarrass myself. 759 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: Good, this is great. What's next? 760 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: I don't know what's next for me, you know. 761 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I got a couple of small movies coming out, 762 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: but I'll be honest, you know, the industry has been 763 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: pretty challenging at the moment. You know, I definitely get 764 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: some nice opportunities to audition for some some big shows. 765 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I was recently guest starred on a 766 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: Law and Order, which was super fun, and I was 767 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of hoping that would turn into a series regular, 768 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe it will in the future. You know, 769 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: they they definitely. You know, Dick Wolf has a ton 770 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: of shows on the air, and I would love to 771 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: find a place on one of them, should he see 772 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: fit to offer me that kind of opportunity. 773 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 3: But I'm you know, I'd love to be back on TV. 774 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: It's been a minute, or movies or well, you know, 775 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I. 776 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: I kind of jump around from like independent films, independent 777 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: film but there's nothing like, you know, the steady work 778 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: of being on a television show and being able to 779 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: really dig into one character over a long period of time. 780 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: I like the consistency. 781 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: I like the stability, you know, and if if you 782 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: love the show you're on and the character that you're playing, 783 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's like, there's no better job in the world. 784 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: Really, I know. 785 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: It's so yeah, we work for Ryan Murphy. 786 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: I've never worked for Ryan Murphy. 787 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: I've met Ryan Murphy at the gym that I work 788 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: out at, you know, his partner, uh is It works 789 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: out at dog Pound in West. 790 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: Hollywood, and I see him all the time. He's great. 791 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 3: And Ryan's been in there a couple of times. 792 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 2: With your future wife, you met Ryan Murphy work. 793 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 3: Out, So Ryan's been in there a couple of times. 794 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: He's incredibly talented, obviously super prolific. You know, it seems 795 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 1: like everything he touches turns to gold. Obviously it would 796 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: be incredible. 797 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: To until oriented one of. 798 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 3: His shows or just you know, completely catapults your career. 799 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like that's a good fit for you. 800 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking that out there, and I feel like he 801 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: would love you because you're he left nostalgia and he 802 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 2: loves a shortlist man, and you've done a lot of that. 803 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I've done my first share. 804 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: And you look great and you're a great actor. Wait, 805 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: how do we sell this to him right now? 806 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think we're selling it to him 807 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 3: right now. Maybe he'll hear this. 808 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: I beg. I beg weekly for him, But tessaly something 809 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: and I've gotten. 810 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 3: I absolutely love I absolutely love his shows. His shows 811 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: are incredible. 812 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: Do you like horror films? 813 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: They're not my favorite? 814 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: Have you been one? I can't remember. 815 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in several horror films. Oh, I mean 816 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 3: a movie called The Tortured. I don't know what other 817 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: horror films. 818 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: I was just in a horror I have a horror 819 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: film coming out, Possession at Gladstone manor Yeah, I have 820 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: that's that's coming out later this year. 821 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: That is sad. But yeah, no, I don't. 822 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't really love horror movies. Some people are just, 823 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, obsessed with horror. 824 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed. Do you like horror? Fiones? Oh for each other? 825 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: Anything gory, bloody? Can't like watch the Eyes Closed, would you? 826 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: I guess they don't really make them anymore, but like 827 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: a sitcom, they do make them. 828 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: Especially with a lot of audience. 829 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: Oh, there's nothing like I was on. 830 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 3: I was on Two. 831 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: Broke Girls for an episode and I had the best 832 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: time on the show. 833 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. 834 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: There's nothing like that live audience. 835 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: I know, love energy for sure. 836 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: It's so great. And people can't understand that, aren't. Yeah, 837 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 2: it's getting those laughs firsthand. We've done theater. 838 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 3: None, never done a plan in my life. 839 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: I came dangerous close to booking Frankie and Johnny on 840 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: the West End, but it didn't happen, you know, And 841 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just, uh, I guess I've just 842 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: never really pushed hard enough. 843 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: You know. 844 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 3: I've definitely talked to my representation. 845 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: About possibly doing theater sort of you know, back in 846 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: the day a little bit, but it just never really happened. 847 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: But I would love I would love the opportunity. It 848 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: seems like an incredible experience. 849 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: Like Xanna, do you and great? You roller skate? 850 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 3: I can roller skate. 851 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm not an avid roller skater, but yeah, I think 852 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm capable. 853 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 854 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 2: Half the people listening won't get that reference. Your bride 855 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 2: doesn't get that reference. 856 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: No, no, no no. We've definitely aged ourselves with the Zamia. 857 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. It was Olivia Newton, John John Travolta. Yeah, and 858 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: then it was on Broadway for years. My friend James 859 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 2: Nlo played late. Okay, are you done? Are you ready 860 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: to go? 861 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 3: Did you see that? 862 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course, see everything, my friend. We did well 863 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 2: here that we did. 864 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: I think we covered a lot of ground, and I'm 865 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: happy to come back and cover more ground anytime. 866 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: Really, absolutely, I love you. You're great. 867 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love you too. You know what's 868 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: great about doing this podcast is I'm reconnecting with people 869 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 2: that and I tried hard for the last few days 870 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: to think where we ever connected, and we. 871 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 3: Never really crossed. 872 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: Beeths Okay, okay, here here's a connection. Rest is soul. Yes, 873 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: Michael Mirash, do you know who Michael Mirror shows. I 874 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: know the name, but okay, Michael mirrorsh Okay, I get 875 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: events and I used to run clubs. Okay, this is 876 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: back in the day, and. 877 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 3: The Mexican restaurant that that was once a club. What's 878 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: the name of the club? What's the name of the club? 879 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 3: Hold on? So this is like, this is like back 880 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: when when you really. 881 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: First you know, broke on nine on two and I 882 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: and you and and Shannon. 883 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 3: Doherty would go out to this club, the Roxbury. 884 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: So the Roxbury. But then what you're saying is it 885 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: ended up being like Prenk. 886 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: Taco's exactly, exactly, yes, something something along those lines. Well, 887 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: Michael Mirash was a close personal friend of mine. He 888 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: used to do these charity basketball games that I used 889 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: to participate in. But he used to tell me stories 890 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: about when he used to like run this this nightclub 891 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: and and all the young actors from NIS who and 892 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: I used to come to this nightbe go to the Roxbury. 893 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: You know, did he tell you I peted at booth 894 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 2: under the table? 895 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 3: He never mentioned that Flowers. 896 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 2: I was really I apologize, but. 897 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 3: You know, so we were talking about the fact. 898 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: That you could come up in the industry and have 899 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: a good time, and you didn't really have to worry 900 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 1: about people taking cell phone photos of you or didn't 901 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: have to worry about paparazzi. 902 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 3: Well, you definitely enjoyed those perks like early, early, earlier 903 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 3: in your career. 904 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: I've heard some stories that, you know, can you tell 905 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: me guys were like kind of wild. I mean, I 906 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: can't really go in the specifics per se, you know, 907 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: but he just said that he knew all of you 908 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: and I actually I think dated Shannon briefly. 909 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 2: I think I call this okay, yes, and. 910 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: That you guys were out a lot. We were enjoying 911 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: the fruits of your labor. 912 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: I was a good girl, though, like I didn't do 913 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: drugs like I. We would do a lot of shots. 914 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: What was that green drink? Majory? Okay thoughts which didn't 915 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: look good coming back up? 916 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't think so. 917 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: My mom was real pissed one time when I came 918 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: to the manor like you fell over her carpeted elevator. 919 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, and I did. I was a kissing bandit, 920 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: but like I wasn't like a naughty girl like I 921 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: didn't sleep with a lot of people. 922 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 3: So you were a good girl. You were a very 923 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 3: good girl. 924 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was fun though, I was really fun. 925 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the next time I come on the podcast, 926 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: we need to get more into your life. Your life 927 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: might be a lot more interesting than mine. 928 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: I'm going to a little nuggets down here. I see it, 929 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 2: I see it. Okay. So yeah, so what I was saying, though, 930 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: it's nice to reconnect or not connect, like all those 931 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 2: years know each other and get to know each other 932 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 2: as adults. And it's so I've. 933 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 3: Always heard I've always heard great things about you, and. 934 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 2: I've heard great things about you, not kidding from what 935 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: I've heard. No, there's not one person that doesn't think 936 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: you're a nice guy. No one in my gearshot has 937 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 2: ever said you're difficult to work with. So anyway, it's 938 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: nice to know you as an adult and just have 939 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: a different perspective. And I think you're really cool and 940 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: really fun and and come back anytime, you come back anytime. Well, 941 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 2: my little whole name here, thanks. 942 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: You having mine, No, thanks for having me. 943 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,479 Speaker 3: Appreciate it.