1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: We're hitting the Inside Scoop with Ken Rosenthal. It's presented 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: by Lids. There'll be a number on the bottom of 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: the screen. We'd love you to check it out to 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: get a little discount when you go to LIDS again. Ken, 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: good to see you, and let's kick things off with 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: your nine questions that will define the postseason after a 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: hot mess of a regular season. I want to start 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: with the Toronto Blue Jays because you also wrote a 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: separate article to the side about how you've called them 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: the paper Tigers and now you have shed the label. 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: I'll let you kind of run with this because I 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: know you've had a fun relationship with Blue Jays fans 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: felt like you were just telling it like it is, 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: and now you're giving them praise. So what do you 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: think of this Blue Jays team heading into the postseason 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: now and not having to deal with a wildcard round too. 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: It's good for them and they've lost six straight games 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: in the wildcard round three different years twenty twenty, twenty two, 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: and twenty three. And for them to survive that really 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: bad week at the end of the season and to 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: come through at the end to get that buy to 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: get the Alias tied. Those are all really good signs. 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: And the reason I called them paper Tigers in twenty 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: three and twenty four is because they were a team 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: that did not play to their potential. It's as simple 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: as that they had a vastly talented group and they underperformed. 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: This year's team is sort of the opposite of that. 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: And not only did they get an amazing Comeback of 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: the Year player performance from George Springer, they also had 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: contributions from what Pat Murphy would describe in Milwaukee as 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: average Joe's and I'm talking about Nathan Lucas and Miles 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Straw and Ernie Clement, David Schneider and all the guys 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: who aren't stars on that team but make valuable contributions 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: on an everyday basis. Addison Barger, I can go right 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: down the line, Tyler Hyneman, name one after another, and 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: that's why for me, that's been a very interesting team 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: to watch, and I'm sure for fans there it's fulfilling 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: to see everything come together in the way that it has. 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: Now. 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Doesn't guarantee they'll beat the Yankees of the Red Sox, 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: of course, not it's the playoffs. Things happen, but they 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: are well positioned, They are a complete team, and their bullpen, 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: aside from Jeff Hoffman, has come around. Now Hoffman's had 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: some struggles. As Velo is down, that's going to be 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: a concern. But I kind of like where they are 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: right now, And of course that's why I wrote what 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: I did, just in praise of them when they were 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: deserving of praise for the year that they had. 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: Ken Just because they don't have to play the wildcard 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: round and they haven't won a game in those rounds, 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: does that mean that their wildcard round now goes to 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 4: the division series? Because technically it's not like you just 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: get to skip the round. It still means the same thing. 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: So can they win this division series against the Yankees 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: or the Red Sox? Who you know, we know how 56 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: hot the Yankees have been and the Red Sox are 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: gonna be throwing it all out there. So whoever wins 58 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: that series? Can the Blue Jays turn their fortunes around 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: and beat the next team? Well? 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Jay, the wildcard round is unique, of course because it's 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: two of three and you can go out really quickly, 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: and that of course is what happened to the Blue 63 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: Jay And they're in somewhat of the same situation as 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: the Brewers. The Brewers have lost five straight opening series 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: as well. One was a division series. I believe the 66 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: others were wild cards. I'm not exactly sure, but yes, 67 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 2: there is that thing hanging over them where they've got 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: to get through that first round and they'll have home 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: field advantage. They've been a really good home team at 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: Rogers Center, which has had an electric atmosphere, especially in 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: recent weeks. So everything is there set up nicely for them, 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: whether it happens or not. The Yankees have played really 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: well the last few weeks. The Red Sox, if they 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: get past the Yankees with Crochet and BeO, they could 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: be a problem. So I don't rule anything out. But 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: at the same time, the Jays should be well positioned. 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: Should we look away from the fact that they don't 78 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: have a lot of homers, that they don't play what 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: is considered winning playoff baseball is their style of the team. 80 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: They built base running, defense low, I mean never strike 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: out in today's base fall sense is that going to 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: Can it lead to success in the playoffs and buck 83 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: the trend that we've had for the last however many years. 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 2: Well, home runs certainly are good. We all know that. 85 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: But the Jays do have the lowest strikeout rate in 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: the majors. The Brewers are not far behind them, and 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: they're a comparable type offense. These are offenses that put 88 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: pressure on defenses by putting the ball in play. And 89 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: I believe the Blue Jays had the highest batting average 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: in the league. And we all discount batting average now, 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: but what does batting average translate to base runners? They 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: have base runners. It's pressure on the pitchers. It's just 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: a different kind of way to go about it. Now 94 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: they have the ability to hit home runs as well. 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: It's not their strength obviously, but can they win a series? 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Can they go far in the playoffs with this style? 97 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: I don't see why not. 98 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 4: Ken, I can tell you're rooting for with your black shirt, 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: so we won't tell anybody. But I know what that means, 100 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: so we'll let people try to figure that out. 101 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Lots of teams are a block. 102 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: I know though. Okay, we're simpatico, so I know I 103 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: know what it means. 104 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: You're not gonna let anyone in on this. 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: I have no idea what's behind here, But we had 106 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: this argument earlier and I'm throwing for your curveball here. 107 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: Besides the fact, who's your X factor in these playoffs? 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 4: Because we had a whole conversation about who mine was, 109 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: who Kratzs was, and Scott couldn't come up with one. 110 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: So who's your X factor in these playoffs for a 111 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 4: team to make a run to win the World Series? 112 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: To find X factor? What do you mean the guy 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: who would be the. 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: Players to winning? 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: Not but not. 116 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: Kratz thinks Kratz is like Trek School. Yeah, no kidding, 117 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: Kratz Trek School pitches. Well, the Tigers do well. I'm 118 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: talking under the radar guy that no one's talking about 119 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: that has to be show up big because there's always 120 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: this guy that shows up in the postseason. I could 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: stand out and say, boom, he carried them Marco Scuterow 122 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 4: the one year for the Giants, right, I mean that's 123 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: an X factor. 124 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say Jeff Hoffin, but we've already 125 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: talked about him. He certainly would be Oh. 126 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: You love the Blue Jays now they have black in 127 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: their uniform. Anthony Volpi. 128 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: Anthony Volpi, if he has a big postseason, He's done 129 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: that before and certainly coming off a poor regular season, 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: it would be great for the Yankees if he did that. 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: Trying to think of some others, how about Kik k 132 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: Hernandez He always seems to be an X factor in 133 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: the postseason. Those are two that kind of jump out 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: to me. I'm not sitting here thinking of them all 135 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: off the top of my head, but those two. Ryan 136 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: O'Hearn and San Diego could be another one. Any number 137 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: of guys AJ could be heroes in October. 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The one I want to pinpoint is 176 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: Jacob Mizerwski. Remember how much we spoke about him, and 177 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: yet he's a rookie and he might not really factor 178 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: into much of the postseason with the Brewers. I know 179 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: he's going to play and pitch, but he really hasn't 180 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: looked good the last couple months. 181 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: He hasn't. And Scott, I'm glad you made that point 182 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: about them, because they have been the best team in baseball. 183 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: Their record reflects that sort of their rankings in era, 184 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: runs per game, defense, any number of different scenarios. The 185 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: problem I have, the concern I have, I should say 186 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: with the Brewers right now, is that they're not the 187 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,359 Speaker 2: team they were necessarily in July when they had Woodroff, 188 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: when Missowski was going well, when Tyler McGill was healthy. 189 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it was healthy and everything seemed to be 190 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: really going well. Now McGill's back, d'l Haul's back. Their 191 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: bullpen might be getting put back together in a really 192 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: good way. But those are concerns still. Gil missed some time, 193 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: Hall missed some time. And yes they pitched Sunday, and yes, 194 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: the hope is that they'll be back to form, but 195 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: that is my concern. Really. They had one point, and 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: I talked about this repeatedly, a depth of starting pitching 197 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: that was kind of the envy of the sport. And 198 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: now they're in a situation where jose Kntana coming off 199 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: the IL is going to have to be their Game 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: three starter most likely. It's just not as stable a 201 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: situation as they've been it. Now that said, this is 202 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: still a very good team. This is the team that 203 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: knows how to win games, and it's the team that 204 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: has figured out it's pitching the entire season, going back 205 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: to opening Day when they had nobody, when everybody was hurt. 206 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: So I'm not discounting them by any stretch of the imagination, 207 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: and no one should discount them. I just wish, and 208 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: you could say this for a number of teams. I 209 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: just wish they were in a little bit better spot. Jen. 210 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: I just saw them on Saturday, and you know, McGill's back. 211 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: They're not sure. I don't know that they're sure what 212 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: they're gonna get from him, because I think when he 213 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: threw his thing and maybe his v low is down 214 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: a little bit, so they're hoping it jumps back up 215 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 4: with the rest and deal Hall they don't know what 216 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna get, but Jose Cantana, they don't know what 217 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: they're gonna get it. It's like just such a crazy 218 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: story that they're where they are because there are just 219 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: so many question marks of this team, which scares you 220 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: a little bit if you're a Brewers fan. But I 221 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: want to say this, and I think you would agree 222 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: with me. This Brandon Woodriff being out is to me 223 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 4: sucks more than any other player being out, just after 224 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: what he went through. And I talked to him on 225 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 4: Saturday and we had a great conversation. He's a great guy. 226 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: But man, I just have to say this, that him 227 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: being out with the arm injury again after all he 228 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: did to come back from the shoulder injury just breaks 229 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: my heart. Like you know, you know what, we're not 230 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: supposed to get personal. We're not supposed to, but when 231 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: you see a guy, especially as a former player, go 232 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: through what he went through, and now he can't pitch 233 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: it the biggest stage. It literally just kind of it 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: pulls up your heart strings for me. 235 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm with you, AJ and Brandon Woodroff, You're right, 236 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: is one of the better guys in the game. And 237 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: he had an incredible rehab, incredibly difficult rehab, and it 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: took him a long time to get back. He was 239 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: back and he was pitching really at a high level again. 240 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: But when it. 241 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: Comes to injuries, and I had a whole section in 242 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: this article today about injured players. Boba Schett, we might 243 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: not see him, Kyle Tucker, We're going to see him, 244 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: but he's going to be maybe compromised. Will Smith the same. 245 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: There are so many injury situations that are worth discussing. 246 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: I mean, my heart breaks for Zach Wheeler too. This 247 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: could have been a cy young year for him in 248 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: a special season for the Phillies and he's not going 249 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: to be there. Trey Turner is coming off an injury, 250 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: So all of these things are difficult for teams. Kate 251 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: Horton with Chicago Cubs as well. But you're right with 252 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: Woodruff in that his rehab was longer and more involved 253 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: and he's given his heart and soul to coming back, 254 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: and for him not to be available here I'm sure 255 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: is crushing. 256 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: To him a team that probably nobody's gonna talk about, 257 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: and I'm probably gonna get in trouble for even bringing him. 258 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: Up the Reds. 259 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: Is there a scenario where the Reds can beat the Dodgers? 260 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 3: I get it, anybody can beat anybody. But in what 261 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: route do the Reds beat the Dodgers and stun everybody 262 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: in this playoffs? 263 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: Starting pitching? And that is the route, and that is 264 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: the way you can in your head think of the 265 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Reds pulling off an upset here. Now, listen, the Dodgers 266 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: have tremendous starting pitching of their own. It's gonna be 267 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: snell Yamamoto and Otani, It's ridiculous. They're all at peak 268 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: form right now. But Hunter Green is at peak form 269 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: right now. And in game two they're gonna go with 270 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: Lttel to start and then back him up Ladolo, maybe 271 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: get some lefties out of the lineup then, or vice 272 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: versa or whatever. And then in game three they have 273 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: another possibility with Andrew Abbott that is a cy young candidate. 274 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: So that is the way that they can do this 275 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: scoring games and just being really good with the starting pitching. Now, 276 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: that said, in twenty twenty, in the pandemic year when 277 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: they had the sixteen team playoff, the Reds were similar. 278 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: That's when they had really good starting pitching with Bauer 279 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: and some others as well, and they didn't score in 280 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: the wildcard round. That's my concern here that their offense, 281 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: which is inconsistent at best, is just not going to 282 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: be good enough to take advantage of that starting pitching, 283 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: assuming it's good. Other than that, I still think this 284 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: is going to be competitive because of that pitching, and 285 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: even the bullpen right now for the Reds is in 286 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: a pretty good place. 287 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Hey Ken, do you agree with the decision by the 288 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Dodgers to wait until Game three for show Heo Tani 289 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: and then if there's no game three, he would pitch 290 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: in game one assuming they win. The reason I ask 291 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: this is what if they lose? What if they're losing 292 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: in game two and you're like, damn, I wish we 293 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: had show Heo Tani pitching. He might have the best 294 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: stuff on the entire team, at least top two or three. 295 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: So just curious if you think that they should have 296 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: laid it out that way. I know Yamamoto is good. 297 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: I know they spent money on Snell and he's really good, 298 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: and they've all been good lately. But can you imagine 299 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: if they lose two games here and Otani didn't pitch? 300 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,239 Speaker 2: Well, can you imagine if they lost two and Yamamoto 301 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: didn't pitch. I guess you could imagine it without Snell. 302 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: But they want to game one for whatever reason. Okay, 303 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: the idea with Otani, and I understand it, is to 304 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: give him a day off after the day he pitches, 305 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: so have that after Game three. He would have that 306 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: after game one of the Division series. The way that 307 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: is laid out there is a day off after game 308 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: one in the division series. That's what they're trying to 309 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: do here. Remember they're thinking about long term always with Otani, 310 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: and it's not just about this year. It's about preserving him. 311 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: This guy's had two major elbow surgeries. They cannot take 312 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: a chance and lose him, so they're just trying to 313 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: give him the best opportunity to be at peak form. 314 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: So I definitely understand that from that perspective. And if 315 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: they go out two to the Cincinnati Reds, well Man 316 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: they should beat the Cincinnati Reds with Otani pitching Game three, 317 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: they should be able to handle this. Okay, put it that. 318 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: Way, we wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for 319 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: the fact that they got rid of Game one sixty 320 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: three yesterday. We could have had an epic day of 321 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: baseball in my opinion. What's your opinion on Game one 322 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: sixty threes? And do you know the genesis of why 323 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Major League Baseball said we don't like these get they 324 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: get in a way of our off days that we 325 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: can't push things back and travel is tough. 326 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: I love Game one sixty three. Who doesn't. But when 327 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: they went to twelve teams, this was the price that 328 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: the sport paid, and the reason is they don't want 329 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: to push back the wild card round any further. That 330 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: would push the division series back further, and then you're 331 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: having an even longer layoff for the teams with the byes. 332 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I understand it, and actually it makes sense in my opinion, 333 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: But at the same time, something is lost and you 334 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: go to twelve teams. You've got to have twelve teams, man, Oh, 335 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: we got to have twelve teams. Give more teams a 336 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: chance get the additional revenue. Okay, we all understand that, 337 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: but yes, something pretty magical was lost. Ag. I believe 338 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: you played the game one sixty three or two, and 339 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: it's incredible. It's a one game playoff for the division 340 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: title or whatever the case might be. Yeah, it would 341 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: be nice if we still had it. 342 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: Yep, there's the anniversary Ken two thousand and eight game. 343 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: I believe the Blackout game. We played two extra games. 344 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: I play two extra games that year, believe it or not. 345 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: So they had to back it up two days because 346 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: we had to make up. We played three games in 347 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: three days a year. We had to beat the Tigers, 348 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: the Royal or the Royals, the Tigers, and then the 349 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: Twins in three straight games, and one of them was 350 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: a makeup game and the other one was the game 351 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: one sixty three. And then the next year we beat 352 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: the Indian Slash Guardians. So we beat four different teams 353 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: in four days. Technically. 354 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Wow, I just want to know why. 355 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, net Scott Brown is why I'm wearing black and 356 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: tribute to the Chicago White Sox. 357 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: Of words coming right out of my mouth, but into 358 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Ken's instead. Ken, You're literally saying exactly what I was 359 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: going to say. All I want to know is this 360 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: inside joke? Is it's something we're not allowed to say 361 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: on the air about. Okay, I can't wait for the text. 362 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: We know who's favorite team is the group. 363 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: Texts coming in hot right. It's not a baseball team, 364 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: It's it's something else. But whatever that is, Ken, good 365 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: luck to your team and enjoy the start of the postseason. 366 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: We'll see unfair territory on Thursday, Scott. 367 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: I want to make one thing clear. I don't have 368 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: a team. People say I hate their team, people say 369 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: I love this team or that I don't care. I 370 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: just care about good stories, entertaining games, and going about 371 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: it that way. Okay, it's on the record. I don't 372 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: have a team. 373 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and FT is mostly the same 374 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: way broadcasters, et cetera. It happens all the time. You're 375 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: doing a good job. You're doing a good job. If 376 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: both sides are saying you love and hate their team, 377 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: that means you're covering them correctly. Ken, thank you, enjoy 378 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: all day baseball. 379 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: Thanks guys. 380 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: That's a f T senior insider, Ken Rosenthal. That is 381 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: the inside scoop presented by lydd's new sponsor Alert text 382 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Territory to two nine zero one seven. You just type 383 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: two nine zero one seven in your phone and text territory. 384 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: What happens. 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