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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Monday, Dan and the Dan That's
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Speaker 2: on the brink of being eliminated. Tim Legler from the
Speaker 2: Mothership will join us. We will give you our best
Speaker 2: and worst of the weekend, recapping some of the highlights.
Speaker 2: We did talk a lot about the Lakers no substitution
Speaker 2: second half. They're going against a young, hungry team in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: and they're going against Anthony Edwards and he'd not afraid
Speaker 2: of anybody. Also, a couple of NBA games coming up tonight,
Speaker 2: you have the Miami Heat and the Cavaliers Game four,
Speaker 2: Rockets Warriors Game four as well. Recap the draft some
Speaker 2: of the interesting moves, and now it kind of quiets
Speaker 2: down a little bit here. Now there will be stories
Speaker 2: that come up, and it'll have to do with Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2: There'll be more people that will probably be more forthcoming
Speaker 2: with information here, whether it backs up what all these
Speaker 2: other teams did, or maybe refutes what these teams did,
Speaker 2: or teams should have drafted him with a better pick,
Speaker 2: a higher pick than what they did. I just don't
Speaker 2: understand the Cleveland Browns. And yes, I've said that before
Speaker 2: many many many times in my life. But you're taking
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel and he is an athletic, decorated quarterback. But
Speaker 2: if you know that Shadoor Sanders or the owner like
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, why are you taking the chance that somebody
Speaker 2: is And I think that there was word that another
Speaker 2: NFL team, NFC team was going to go up and
Speaker 2: get Shador Sanders, and that's why the Browns traded up
Speaker 2: to take Shador Sanders. I don't have that definitive, but
Speaker 2: I think there was a surprise NFC team that was
Speaker 2: going to go up and take shad Or Sanders. Therefore,
Speaker 2: the Browns went up to get him, like they he
Speaker 2: wasn't good enough to get in the third round, but
Speaker 2: you're going to try right up to get him in
Speaker 2: the fifth round. It just doesn't make any sense other
Speaker 2: than the fact that the owner of the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 2: probably said, hey, guys, I got this. Meanwhile, the coach
Speaker 2: and GM are going, okay, we just traded up to
Speaker 2: get Shador Sanders. Eight seven to seven to three. DP
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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. And in case you're wondering, I saw
Speaker 2: preliminary reports that the second day, third day of the
Speaker 2: draft of forty percent and you can attribute that to
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. This wasn't a sexy draft at all. Really,
Speaker 2: it was Travis Hunter, he goes early, and then it
Speaker 2: was who's taking Shadoor Sanders. That's it. No, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of great defensive line nobody cares. Oh, Ashton
Speaker 2: Genty he went early. No real good wide receivers, big
Speaker 2: name wide receivers. This had to do with Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders, and maybe not in that order. Certainly, by
Speaker 2: the end of the weekend, it was all about Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 2: And I still think Cleveland was the right place for him.
Speaker 2: I think he has a chance to play. I think
Speaker 2: he has a chance to play right away or at
Speaker 2: least his rookie season. I truly believe that. And if
Speaker 2: you're going to structure an offense that is based around
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco as your starter, well, Joe has no mobility. See,
Speaker 2: you're not saying we want you to be like Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: because Shadoor Sanders can't be like Lamar Jackson. Your offense
Speaker 2: is going to be probably structured that you can put
Speaker 2: Shador in there instead of Joe Flacco. Now, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he's better than Joe Flacco because he's not even
Speaker 2: at forty years of age. Joe Flacco knows how to
Speaker 2: play the position. But I do think Shador can play.
Speaker 2: And if we put the over under of one and
Speaker 2: a half starts for Shador's rookie season, I'd probably go over.
Speaker 2: But it's because the sheer attrition at that position. Nobody
Speaker 2: stays healthy the entire year. It's really really rare. And
Speaker 2: if sixty plus quarterbacks played had one start last year,
Speaker 2: the odds are he's probably going to get a start.
Speaker 2: It's just if teams really thought that he could be
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback. I don't think the awkward interviews,
Speaker 2: the lack of interest in some of these meetings would
Speaker 2: have sunk him this far. That's what's interesting. Because you
Speaker 2: pass on somebody five times because of maybe awkward conversations,
Speaker 2: how is he as a football player that'd be the
Speaker 2: first thing I would say, because there are a lot
Speaker 2: of guys who played in the NFL who aren't good guys,
Speaker 2: but they were really good at what they did. And
Speaker 2: that's what you have to ask, is is he good
Speaker 2: enough to have this kind of baggage that may not
Speaker 2: fit in the overhead bin. That would be the second
Speaker 2: question that I would have for him. But he was
Speaker 2: awkward in interviews entitled seemed disinterested, Like those are red flags.
Speaker 2: I want to know if you want to be great
Speaker 2: or do you think you're great. There are a lot
Speaker 2: of players who get to the NFL they think they're great,
Speaker 2: and that's when the work really starts. You're great in college,
Speaker 2: but you're not great when you get to the NFL.
Speaker 2: You have to prove you're great. And that's what I
Speaker 2: want to know. That's what I want to see, and
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised at all if he's really
Speaker 2: good this year. Not at all. Yeah, Paul, it's.
Speaker 3: Almost like with the NFL, or it is like your
Speaker 3: off the field baggage has to be off the field,
Speaker 3: like you did a like a something bad off the field,
Speaker 3: and they'll get over that. You'll still get drafted. You
Speaker 3: won't fall that far in the draft. But if if
Speaker 3: you're considered maybe a possibly bad teammate or bad guy,
Speaker 3: that's a thing that could really hurt someone. Or that's
Speaker 3: what appears that's going on here. The collective think of
Speaker 3: it because like the kid from Michigan, the cornerback injury issues,
Speaker 3: you drop around, you don't drop five rounds.
Speaker 2: Jason in Phoenix, Hi, Jason, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you guys. Yeah, I just quickly on Shador.
Speaker 4: It's like three teams drafted the start of this season,
Speaker 4: and you know if you don't want to go to
Speaker 4: two of those teams and your dad saying, yeah, I
Speaker 4: want to coach. So if he goes to Pittsburgh, Tomin
Speaker 4: has one year with him. If it doesn't go good,
Speaker 4: he's already kind of almost on the hot seat because
Speaker 4: they haven't had long playoff runs. But why would you
Speaker 4: why would you invite that? You know, it's like, it
Speaker 4: makes perfect sense to me why you felt like, and
Speaker 4: then you're not gonna want him as a backup because
Speaker 4: then you've still got the circus in town. So that
Speaker 4: just makes sense to me. I don't know, I must
Speaker 4: be the crazy one here.
Speaker 2: No, I understand it, but it doesn't I don't rule
Speaker 2: out him being a starting quarterback in the NFL. Would
Speaker 2: a lot of these things scare me, Yes, if I
Speaker 2: was drafting him in the first round, of course, second,
Speaker 2: even third. And you're right, you don't want your backup
Speaker 2: quarterback to be more famous than your starting quarterback. But
Speaker 2: this happened to Cam Newton late in his career, and
Speaker 2: it happened to Tim Tebow late in his career. They
Speaker 2: didn't want to bring those quarterbacks in because the camera,
Speaker 2: the announcers would always focus on that whenever the quarterback
Speaker 2: threw an interception or he got sacked, and then let's
Speaker 2: go to Cam Newton or when's it tbou time. You
Speaker 2: just don't want that. And I understand that business decision,
Speaker 2: and that's what it is. You want to make sure
Speaker 2: there's so many distractions, and it's so hard to win
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You don't want to add to the
Speaker 2: degree of difficulty. All right, best and worst of the weekend,
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. Then I want to play
Speaker 2: a couple of clips with Bill Belichick being interviewed on
Speaker 2: Sunday Morning CBS Sunday Morning, Todd, I'll start with you.
Speaker 2: Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 5: Best of the weekend, the wild ending in Game four
Speaker 5: Saturday Night between the Nuggets and Clippers, La comes all
Speaker 5: the way back, takes a one point lead with just
Speaker 5: over a minute left, which was their first lead of
Speaker 5: the game, only to lose on that buzzer beating dunk
Speaker 5: by Aaron Gordon, tying the series of two apiece.
Speaker 6: Worst Chador not.
Speaker 7: Getting selected until the fifth round of the draft, taken
Speaker 7: by the Browns one hundred and forty fourth overall, and
Speaker 7: the whole pretending to be Saint Jim Mickey Loomis prank
Speaker 7: phone call by the Falcon's defensive coordinator Son Seaton.
Speaker 2: Best and worst.
Speaker 8: My best of the weekend is having the Stones to
Speaker 8: steal those phone numbers and make those frank calls. It
Speaker 8: takes an extraordinary amount of I don't know, audacity or something,
Speaker 8: or liquor yeah, or liquor yeah, yeah. Those kids are idiots.
Speaker 8: But the worst of the weekend is glad you can't
Speaker 8: take the victory lap and release the video. You just
Speaker 8: can't do that. That's that's about as dumb as you
Speaker 8: could possibly be. Marvin Western Worst best of the weekend,
Speaker 8: The team.
Speaker 9: We're not talking about the Indiana Pacers Tyree Halliburton seventeen
Speaker 9: points fifteen assists as they took a three one lead
Speaker 9: over the Bucks. Worst of the weekend the Colorado Rockies.
Speaker 9: They got swept by the Cincinnati Reds. Their record now
Speaker 9: is four and twenty three this season. There this year's
Speaker 9: Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 2: Wow, how many wins do the White Sox have? Checking
Speaker 2: Cause last year's White Sox could be this year's White
Speaker 2: Sox too, or this year's White Sox could be last
Speaker 2: year's White Sox. Yes, Paul, the.
Speaker 3: White Sox are still within striking distance of them. They're
Speaker 3: seven and twenty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, best and worst of the weekend, Paul, I will
Speaker 2: give you both those.
Speaker 3: Tony Dukoppel, the CBS Sunday Morning reporter of the interview
Speaker 3: at Belichick, not let himself be pushed around with those
Speaker 3: non answers. And here's one that's not getting enough coverage.
Speaker 3: The Commanders are going home. The Washington Commanders have an
Speaker 3: agreement with the town, the city, the mayor to build
Speaker 3: a stadium in the District of Columbia back of the
Speaker 3: old RFK Stadium site. They're going to build a whole complex, hotels, everything,
Speaker 3: they're going to be in the city. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to and I don't know how
Speaker 2: long ago this was, but I got information that the
Speaker 2: now once again I don't know how long ago this was,
Speaker 2: but the then Washington Redskins they wanted to be able
Speaker 2: to move back into RFK, So this is probably seven
Speaker 2: eight years ago maybe, and they but if they did,
Speaker 2: then they had to give up the nickname. They couldn't
Speaker 2: use Redskins anymore. That the Commissioner would green light into
Speaker 2: back into Washington, DC. But now that's gone. So now
Speaker 2: you're the commanders. I'm sure the Commissioner's like, yeah, going ahead,
Speaker 2: go back. In great atmosphere, Bill Belichick sat down. He's
Speaker 2: promoting a new book about Winning Winning, and he was
Speaker 2: on CBS this morning and there was a moment where
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's girlfriend interrupts the conversation. Jordan was a constant
Speaker 2: presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there.
Speaker 10: Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
Speaker 10: They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got
Speaker 10: nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.
Speaker 10: How do you deal with that. Never been too worried
Speaker 10: about what everybody else. Thanks, just to try to do
Speaker 10: what I feel like is that's for me and what's right?
Speaker 10: How did you guys meet.
Speaker 11: Not talking about this?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: No, it's a topic neither one of them is comfortable
Speaker 2: commenting on. I wasn't interested until they said they weren't
Speaker 2: talking about it. Now I'm interested.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 2: And apparently, according to The New York Post, she interrupted
Speaker 2: the interview on numerous occasions. It wasn't a one time
Speaker 2: only thing. But look, I understand this. If you're CBS,
Speaker 2: I think you want to give the context of what
Speaker 2: the interview was like. You sit down with Bill, back
Speaker 2: and forth. You know, it's we'll promote the book, we
Speaker 2: get to ask you questions, and then the interviewer, Tony
Speaker 2: wants to stray a little bit over here because that's
Speaker 2: where you're going to get headlines. Not really talking about
Speaker 2: Bill's ability to win games. Although the other part of
Speaker 2: this is that what he had to say about not
Speaker 2: acknowledging his former owner Robert Kraft.
Speaker 10: I have to ask about Robert Craft because twenty four
Speaker 10: years together, six super Bowls.
Speaker 2: Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book. How come
Speaker 2: he's not.
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Again, it's about my life lessons in football, and it's
Speaker 2: really more about the ones that I experienced directly.
Speaker 10: But he's not even in the acknowledgment section.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 10: Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and
Speaker 10: respect when you were.
Speaker 2: Let go by Robert Craft?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What was a mutual decision that for us? The part
Speaker 2: ways Bill wasn't. It's never mutual, it's just not. It
Speaker 2: becomes mutual after somebody says, hey, uh we're gonna We're
Speaker 2: gonna let you go. Uh well, wait a minute, I'd
Speaker 2: like to stay. Uh no, I think you would like
Speaker 2: to go. It's mutual. Okay, I guess it's mutual. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: They'd moved on from him. They had taken away a
Speaker 2: lot of his power over the last decade. Robert Craft
Speaker 2: and his son. Yeah, see, I think there's room for mutual.
Speaker 2: I think you come around mutual.
Speaker 8: I once quit a job and I walked into my
Speaker 8: boss's office. I was like, hey, just letting you know,
Speaker 8: I'm putting my two weeks in. He goes, why did
Speaker 8: you just leave?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 2: And I was like perfect.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 8: He's like, I'll pay you for the two weeks, why
Speaker 8: don't you just leave now? I was like, great, that
Speaker 8: felt really mutual. I pulled the trigger first, but he
Speaker 8: was definitely like, why wait the two weeks?
Speaker 2: Just go now? Do you think Bill Belichick went to
Speaker 2: Robert Craft and goes, you know what, I think it's
Speaker 2: time for me to leave. You know, I feel like
Speaker 2: maybe I can a college football team.
Speaker 8: I think that he was probably like, here's what I need,
Speaker 8: and if that doesn't happen, I don't know how interested
Speaker 8: I am in being here anymore.
Speaker 2: I think he got let go, but he didn't even
Speaker 2: acknowledge him. Like the acknowledgment is where you you know
Speaker 2: random people. You would think a guy who did help
Speaker 2: you build this roster would have gotten an acknowledgment there. So,
Speaker 2: But as far as his girlfriend being involved in this,
Speaker 2: she's a former cheerleader at Bridgewaters State University and I
Speaker 2: guess there was an Instagram photo that they met in
Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty one and he autographed a book
Speaker 2: for her, and then last June they were on his
Speaker 2: yacht and Nantucket.
Speaker 3: Old Bill Belichick would have been on a boat. New
Speaker 3: Bills on a yacht.
Speaker 2: Yeah, live in that yacht life. Yeah, he would have
Speaker 2: been in a like a iak er Yeah okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: uh you know, but when you're talking to like a newsperson,
Speaker 2: it's it's just different than if he's talking to you know,
Speaker 2: Mike Florio or you know, Adam Schefter. But if if
Speaker 2: you get that opportunity, this is part of the story.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I know it's not part of the book, but it
Speaker 2: is part of you and what you're doing. Now. You
Speaker 2: want publicity for North Carolina and she plays a real
Speaker 2: active role here. I I don't think it's off limits
Speaker 2: to say, what role does your girlfriend play with your
Speaker 2: football team? What is her title? But she's over on
Speaker 2: the side, and I'm trying to think if this ever
Speaker 2: happened to me. It didn't. It almost happened with Sammy
Speaker 2: Sosa in spring train because Cubs PR was there and
Speaker 2: she wanted to shut down some questions about steroids. But
Speaker 2: I just stayed in the batter's box. I'm like, nap,
Speaker 2: I'm here, I got to ask these questions. And when
Speaker 2: I left, let's just say I was in the garage
Speaker 2: and I could hear a conversation that was going on
Speaker 2: in the house. The level was a little loud, let's
Speaker 2: put it that way. But as far as somebody's saying,
Speaker 2: we're not going to talk about that, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Do we not mid interview? Yeah? I don't
Speaker 2: think so. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3: We've had some pretty big names on like a Tom
Speaker 3: Cruise took Fritzy like six months. And there are occasionally
Speaker 3: some well you'd prefer not to talk about this in that,
Speaker 3: but not a mid interview interruption.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of times if they say, well, he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about that, well, when you tell
Speaker 2: me he doesn't want to talk about that, then I
Speaker 2: want to talk about that. And if I would have
Speaker 2: been told, let's say I'm part of the CBS This
Speaker 2: Morning crew and I'm doing the interview and they say
Speaker 2: no person, I'm guessing guessing that she would have had
Speaker 2: a preemptive strike to say, no personal questions, right, but
Speaker 2: North Carolina pr should be doing this, but this is
Speaker 2: Bill a book that has nothing to do with North Carolina.
Speaker 2: But I'm guessing as controlling as she appears to be,
Speaker 2: that she would have said, I'm not involved in this,
Speaker 2: I'm not involved in your questions there. But it's good TV.
Speaker 2: I liked it. I'm like, I'll be damn look at
Speaker 2: that they included this because sometimes they'll be fair and
Speaker 2: they don't want to show this. But if she's part
Speaker 2: of the she was part of the interview, part of
Speaker 2: the experience. All right, more phone calls coming up, Best
Speaker 2: and worst of the weekend? Eight seven seven three DP show.
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Speaker 2: One of the youngest teams in the playoffs, the Oklahoma
Speaker 2: City Thunder. They get more rest as they move on
Speaker 2: from Memphis. I like how Jahn Moran said, if he
Speaker 2: didn't get injured, he had figured out how to beat OKC.
Speaker 2: I guess we're just gonna have to take your word
Speaker 2: on that. We'll get some more phone calls coming up
Speaker 2: eight seven to seven to three DP show email address
Speaker 2: DP at Danpatrick dot com. Tim Legler, one of the
Speaker 2: great shooters in NBA history, on the call for Celtic's
Speaker 2: Magic on Friday, as well as the Knicks in the
Speaker 2: Pistons Game four, and he has a podcast, All City
Speaker 2: NBA Podcast. We'll talk about that in a moment. Leg's
Speaker 2: good to talk to you before you knew the end result.
Speaker 2: If I would have told you the Lakers will not
Speaker 2: substitute in the second half of the Minnesota game, they
Speaker 2: will play their starting five and nobody else will come
Speaker 2: in on the road after they had what one day
Speaker 2: of rest in between games three and four, you would
Speaker 2: have said.
Speaker 6: What, no shot of winning the game? Because if you
Speaker 6: told me, first of all, if you tell me something
Speaker 6: like that, I would say, well, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 6: It's impossible, it's never happened. I've never heard of such
Speaker 6: a thing. That would have been my first answer. So
Speaker 6: this is a crazy hypothetical you're throwing at me. But
Speaker 6: if then I thought to myself, we you know, maybe
Speaker 6: this could happen, I would think they must be in
Speaker 6: dire straits. There has to be some reason why you'd
Speaker 6: be pushed to an extreme measure like that. And anyway
Speaker 6: you slice it against a team as good defensively as
Speaker 6: Minnesota is capable of being, to think you got five
Speaker 6: guys played twenty four straight minutes, no physical break, no
Speaker 6: mental break. It's just not a formula for success. I
Speaker 6: think there's a lot of criticism coming JJ Ritick's way.
Speaker 6: I think it's I think a lot of it is justified.
Speaker 6: It's not just the substitution patterns either. I have a
Speaker 6: lot of problems with that. The design of that inbounds
Speaker 6: play late where Lebron turned the ball over, I don't
Speaker 6: I don't understand what they were trying to accomplish by
Speaker 6: the design of the play, the spacing of the play,
Speaker 6: and then just a terrible decision by Lebron to fill
Speaker 6: it to the wrong hand for Luca. But so I
Speaker 6: think there's a lot of criticism that's levied against J. J.
Speaker 6: Reddick right now, and they don't come back and win
Speaker 6: this series. I think he's going to be dealing with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm looking at the mistakes they made. They
Speaker 2: blew a thirteen point lead, Minnesota's at home. That's a
Speaker 2: young team. Any team that has Anthony Edwards, you know,
Speaker 2: is not going to stop and some of these mistakes.
Speaker 2: Lebron takes a really deep three that to me was
Speaker 2: a bad shot. Even if he makes it, it's still
Speaker 2: not a high percentage the inbounds passes lazy, then you
Speaker 2: know he commits the foul, and Anthony Edwards to me
Speaker 2: a lot of that, and you know that Luke is
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent, but you're not bringing any of
Speaker 2: those guys out and you still had a chance to win.
Speaker 2: I don't think that Austin Reeves was ready to take
Speaker 2: that shot in the corner, but I mean the margin
Speaker 2: of victory and defeat at this time of the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just surprised at how the Lakers
Speaker 2: played down the stretch.
Speaker 6: Dan Listen, you could go right now anywhere in the
Speaker 6: country and watch it. Probably you know, a middle school
Speaker 6: basketball game where you know the five starters are infinitely
Speaker 6: better than the kids on the bench, and they're gonna
Speaker 6: sub This is a situation with NBA players. You know,
Speaker 6: millions and millions of dollars committed in salary to the
Speaker 6: guys that are wearing Lakers uniforms sitting there, and you
Speaker 6: can't go to any of those guys an entire second
Speaker 6: half of a playoff game with really your season on
Speaker 6: the brink. Now, you know, I'm not going to completely
Speaker 6: write them off because they've got Luca and Lebron. They
Speaker 6: let's face it, at the end of the day, they've
Speaker 6: got two of the most special players in the league.
Speaker 6: So this is one situation where three to one don't
Speaker 6: I'm not ready to put this to bed yet. I
Speaker 6: think they go home and win Game five, you know,
Speaker 6: And now you're getting into a situation. Can you win
Speaker 6: a road game to force that Game seven back in
Speaker 6: your place? I don't know. But to think that you
Speaker 6: couldn't have the faith or confidence to go to anyone
Speaker 6: else on your roster besides those five guys, it's really
Speaker 6: mind boggling to me. And does it play into the
Speaker 6: decision making? Possibly? Does it play into that three you
Speaker 6: mentioned by Lebron and Plaid. You brought it up because
Speaker 6: I should have. I was remissive not mentioning that too.
Speaker 6: That's a horrible shot. There's seven seconds on the shot clock.
Speaker 6: He takes a thirty foot three and if you watch
Speaker 6: the possession, nobody moved. There was not a single cut screen,
Speaker 6: no action whatsoever. They came down, held the ball for
Speaker 6: a little bit, swung it to Lebron and he just
Speaker 6: pulled it after he had played twenty three consecutive minutes.
Speaker 6: And look, he's better from the three than he's ever been.
Speaker 6: That shot was Steph Curry range. That's not his wheelhouse.
Speaker 6: So was that a fatigue thing physically mentally? Possibly that
Speaker 6: the inbounds play, Like I said, the construct of the
Speaker 6: play was terrible. Three guys breaking to the ball within
Speaker 6: ten of each other with their defenders, So you got
Speaker 6: six bodies within ten feet of each other, all coming
Speaker 6: to the corner of this by the sideline where the
Speaker 6: half court acts as another barrier. If you catch it
Speaker 6: in the front court, now they could have run someone
Speaker 6: into the back court. That would have been nice, or
Speaker 6: at least have one guy breaking to the ball so
Speaker 6: he's gotten an opportunity to just push off and catch it.
Speaker 6: It was so congested, and then Lebron makes a terrible
Speaker 6: decision that the pass has to go to Luca's left hand.
Speaker 6: Jay McDaniels is on Luca's right side, he's hedging him
Speaker 6: over there, and Lebron throws it to that side. So
Speaker 6: is that a mental fatigue. He's too good a player,
Speaker 6: he's too smart to make that mistake. So I don't
Speaker 6: know what all played into it, but you can't tell
Speaker 6: me that it couldn't have factored in when those guys
Speaker 6: hadn't had a break physically or mentally for an entire
Speaker 6: half of a must win game. That's shocking to me.
Speaker 2: What did you see on that last play with the
Speaker 2: Pistons and the Knicks with Hardaway Junior.
Speaker 6: You know, my vantage point calling the game, Dan was
Speaker 6: tough because it was across the court, all the way
Speaker 6: in the corner to my right, all the way across
Speaker 6: the court with a lot of bodies over there. So
Speaker 6: the shot goes off and I couldn't We couldn't see
Speaker 6: it until we saw the replay. Once I saw the replay,
Speaker 6: I believe I said on the air my last comment
Speaker 6: on it was, you know, there's no doubt shooters typically
Speaker 6: are going to get that call. But then I went
Speaker 6: on to say, but at the same time, there was
Speaker 6: almost nothing called in the second half of that game
Speaker 6: on shooters, very little. I mean the third quarter of
Speaker 6: that game. I made a joke that you would have
Speaker 6: a hard time convincing me that Navy Seal training was
Speaker 6: more arduous than getting to the rim in the third
Speaker 6: quarter of that game, because they just there was nothing.
Speaker 6: It was played on it. By the way, I love it.
Speaker 6: I mean, I was the nineties was when I played.
Speaker 6: I loved that style of basketball. Now here's the thing though,
Speaker 6: on the shooter from a twenty four foot shot, you've
Speaker 6: got that guy's got to be protected more than a driver,
Speaker 6: and so to get bumped on your shooting side absolutely
Speaker 6: enough to make it the shot unmakable and should have
Speaker 6: been called. And as you can see, the officials immediately
Speaker 6: said it. They didn't even wait for the two minute report.
Speaker 6: They said it once they got to the locker room
Speaker 6: and saw the play because they wanted to immediately put
Speaker 6: it out there. We blew it. Now, that doesn't help
Speaker 6: Pistons fans because you'd have a two to two series
Speaker 6: going back to New York and the Pistons have played
Speaker 6: very well in Madison Square Garden in this series.
Speaker 2: Talking to Tim Legler, ESPN, NBA analyst, former NBA player,
Speaker 2: when you won the three point shooting contest, Larry Bird?
Speaker 2: Was he out of the NBA?
Speaker 6: Yes, he was?
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you think you would have done against Bird?
Speaker 6: Well, I hate to say it, but if Larry Bird
Speaker 6: walked in the locker room and guaranteed a victory in
Speaker 6: that competition, and I was sitting in the locker room,
Speaker 6: I probably would have had something to say back. So listen,
Speaker 6: I think everybody everybody that parted.
Speaker 2: Are you sure you would have said something at the
Speaker 2: time to Larry Bird?
Speaker 6: Probably not. He was much He was my idol in
Speaker 6: high school college, so probably you're probably right. No, but
Speaker 6: it may have made me. It may have made me
Speaker 6: even more because of how badly you know, how much
Speaker 6: better the story would have been there. You know, I
Speaker 6: was just so happy to win it and know that
Speaker 6: my name was going to go on a list with
Speaker 6: that guy, like of guys that have won the competition.
Speaker 6: So yeah, but look, I think anybody that's participated in
Speaker 6: that probably believes that they would beat anybody that's ever
Speaker 6: done it.
Speaker 2: How many teams can win the title?
Speaker 6: Well, I said going, I said, going in to the
Speaker 6: postseason or not the postseason. With about a month ago,
Speaker 6: I said, one of these three teams is winning a title,
Speaker 6: and you're not going to convince me it could possibly
Speaker 6: be anybody else that was okay, okay, see Boston and Cleveland.
Speaker 6: To me, those three teams lapped the field this year
Speaker 6: in the NBA. They were that much better than everybody else.
Speaker 6: The one X factor out there was the Lakers because
Speaker 6: you know adding this player and what that ultimately is
Speaker 6: going to look like. And their defense took major strides
Speaker 6: before that Lebron injury late in the year, their defense
Speaker 6: had taken major stride. They're figuring out how to protect Luca,
Speaker 6: and then you've just have two guys that have an
Speaker 6: answer for everything on the court offensively with their scoring,
Speaker 6: their playmaking and their IQ. So I thought, you know,
Speaker 6: I can't rule them out. To me, those other three
Speaker 6: teams have been so much better than the rest of
Speaker 6: the league. You rarely see it to that extent. So
Speaker 6: Oklahoma City for me, has been the best team I've
Speaker 6: seen all year. When they play their best, they are
Speaker 6: the best team. But look, Boston is obviously right there,
Speaker 6: and then the Calves have been great. I just don't
Speaker 6: know if the Calves ultimately will be able to get
Speaker 6: past Boston.
Speaker 2: Let me go back to the Lakers situation. It just
Speaker 2: dawned on me. You know, here's Lebron twilight of his career.
Speaker 2: They don't have draft picks there. I don't know where
Speaker 2: they are salary cap wise, Luca for one more year.
Speaker 2: Could you see a scenario where Luca looks around and goes,
Speaker 2: do I want to stay in this situation if Lebron's
Speaker 2: not there and you got kind of the group you
Speaker 2: have and maybe you add something. But is it a
Speaker 2: foregone conclusion Luca is going to stay in Los Angeles? No.
Speaker 6: I definitely could see that scenario, and the main reason
Speaker 6: for that he was thrust into it. He isn't a
Speaker 6: situation where Luca got to free agency and said, man,
Speaker 6: la is where I want to be. You know, that's
Speaker 6: where I want to go, like Lebron did. And then
Speaker 6: now you figure, well, he's going to stay to the
Speaker 6: rest of his career and finishing up because he chose
Speaker 6: that at that stage of his career. Luca didn't choose that.
Speaker 6: Luca was I'm I'm still not sure. Lucas over the
Speaker 6: shock of being traded, so he was thrust into it
Speaker 6: thinking the most of it. But when it's all said
Speaker 6: and done, does he a totally love playing with Lebron?
Speaker 6: Who knows? Does Lebron really love playing with him? I
Speaker 6: don't know that either. I don't know how that long
Speaker 6: that's gonna last. Is Lebron gonna hang them up? I
Speaker 6: don't know. But now Luca's envisions himself going forward in
Speaker 6: the Lakers organization. But JJ Reddick, who knows how he
Speaker 6: feels about that. Really, he hasn't had a large enough
Speaker 6: sample size and he didn't choose any of it. So
Speaker 6: when you're forced into a situation, you don't know really
Speaker 6: internally the conversations he's having, you know, with the people
Speaker 6: in his life that care about him. So could I
Speaker 6: envision it, Absolutely, I could envision it now. I think
Speaker 6: there's a possibility because of the organization, what it says
Speaker 6: on the front. You know, their commitment to try to
Speaker 6: keep winning all the time. They're always going to try
Speaker 6: to win, even if they're in the luxury tax. Maybe
Speaker 6: Luca wants to be that in the next decade he thinks, Hey,
Speaker 6: I'm a Laker, I'm gonna win titles here. But I
Speaker 6: don't know that. I don't think it's out of the question.
Speaker 6: He would look around and say, Man, this is a
Speaker 6: one I chose. What else is out there?
Speaker 2: Unless Nico Grrison goes to another team and then you
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm really proud of it. Man, We're finishing
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Speaker 2: It's All City NBA podcast on YouTube, anywhere you get
Speaker 2: your podcast. Do you think I would have beaten Greg
Speaker 2: Anthony that day in Detroit shooting three pointers when we
Speaker 2: were on the floor.
Speaker 6: Any competition, Dan, you got a pretty good stroke, Maybe
Speaker 6: maybe you'd have a shot, But I know this, if
Speaker 6: you decided to go one on one, I think Greg's
Speaker 6: locking you up.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I agree with that. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: shooting three Greg Anthony is a fifteen to eighteen footer.
Speaker 6: Uh, let me ask Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 6: You always ask him to shooting mansion. Do you shoot anymore?
Speaker 6: Like you actually go to a court and shoot.
Speaker 2: Umm, it's too easy, I think, I like, after a while,
Speaker 2: you get bored.
Speaker 6: You know, I used to go. I used to shoot
Speaker 6: a lot. Man. I'm about to point out I shoot
Speaker 6: heavily leading up to my basketball pimp. So I don't
Speaker 6: embarrass myself in front of those kids. But I just
Speaker 6: I don't have the time for it anymore. My knees
Speaker 6: hurt a little bit more than they used to, so
Speaker 6: it's harder for me too. But I do know this.
Speaker 6: If you gave me, if you gave me a week
Speaker 6: to prepare for anything, I'm still gonna go. I don't
Speaker 6: put on a good show for you.
Speaker 2: So if I gave you a week to prepare for
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, for Steph Curry, I.
Speaker 6: Need more in a week. You got to give me
Speaker 6: about three months, Okay, all right, because I might need
Speaker 6: if I'm if I'm taking on a guy like that,
Speaker 6: I don't want to get humiliated. I'm probably gonna need
Speaker 6: to go maybe get some injections in my knee. First,
Speaker 6: let's start there, Okay, so I have supt comfort and
Speaker 6: then the rhythm of repetition. Yeah, you give me, you
Speaker 6: give me, you know, six days a week shooting for
Speaker 6: a couple of months. I'll take my shot against anybody.
Speaker 2: What about Ray Allen? You against Ray Allen right now?
Speaker 2: Three point shooting contest.
Speaker 6: Man, that's a good that's a great one. I don't
Speaker 6: Ray looks like the kind of guy that still plays
Speaker 6: pick up ball, Like you know, he's probably still in rhythm.
Speaker 6: I would need less time to take him on. But still,
Speaker 6: I always thought Ray Allen for like a decade, until
Speaker 6: the Curry came into the league, I thought Ray Allen
Speaker 6: was the best shooter on the planet for about ten
Speaker 6: years probably.
Speaker 2: So you know that man, Steph would probably have you.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you don't defer to him. I think
Speaker 6: that now you're you're coming off sounding a little bit kookie.
Speaker 2: How about you against Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6: I'd be confident in that. I'd be confident in that matchup.
Speaker 2: Okay, what if it's from thirty feet.
Speaker 6: She'd probably get me there now because she's she's regularly
Speaker 6: taking them from that distance. If I go shoot now
Speaker 6: and I'm trying to oppress you. I'm going to be
Speaker 6: towed up right at the line I used to be.
Speaker 6: I used to be. I used to be out there
Speaker 6: that at that rage i'd go to but I put on.
Speaker 6: I used to get go around and visit different camps,
Speaker 6: spoke at, you know, high school recruiting camps and again,
Speaker 6: and do shooting demonstrations, and I'd be out where you're
Speaker 6: talking about and not miss. Like you can go twenty
Speaker 6: minutes and you're just making everything. Now it's you're much
Speaker 6: closer to that line than you used to be. In fact,
Speaker 6: you're right on the line. You're it's an Al Horford
Speaker 6: three to put it.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Legs, thanks always, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining. Jim Legler won the three point shoot contest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were in Detroit, I think it was NBA Finals
Speaker 2: and Legs came out and he said, I'll beat you
Speaker 2: left handed, and I was it's one of the worst
Speaker 2: things that has ever been said to me, one of
Speaker 2: the meanest things ever. I'll beat you left handed from
Speaker 2: three point range, and I said, I'll crush you. And
Speaker 2: then Greg Anthony comes out and he starts shooting jumpers
Speaker 2: and we were shooting threes and he's shooting like fifteen
Speaker 2: eighteen footers. I said, you know, come out here where
Speaker 2: the grown ups are, and I would have dusted him
Speaker 2: off from three point range, Legler, I would have lost.
Speaker 2: Not left handed, he would not have beaten me left handed,
Speaker 2: right handed, he would have. Yes, Mark, does.
Speaker 9: Your basketball career still keep you up at night?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 9: Yes, because when I hear you, and I've seen you
Speaker 9: in person, you can stroke that thing whoall quote. But
Speaker 9: in my head, I'm like, I'm sure Dan's like, oh,
Speaker 9: if the guy from eastern Kentucky would have let me
Speaker 9: eat green.
Speaker 2: Light, Yeah, just give me the green light. But the
Speaker 2: older I get, the better I was Marvin, let's be honest.
Speaker 2: That's right. Oh that's what she said. Okay, Uh, that's it.
Speaker 2: More phone calls, close up shop, what we Learn What's
Speaker 2: in store Tomorrow?
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, What we Learn What's in
Speaker 2: Store Tomorrow? Had an odd conversation with Marvin on the
Speaker 2: flight back from Green Bay, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: we got to this point. But Marvin, as we're getting
Speaker 2: ready to get on a flight from Green Bay to Detroit.
Speaker 2: Kyle Brandt is there from Good Morning Football, Laura Rutledge
Speaker 2: from NFL Live. Urban Meyer was on the flight. Dan
Speaker 2: Orlovsky was on the flight. Mark Ingram was on the flight,
Speaker 2: and Marvin goes, if this plane goes down, what's the headline?
Speaker 2: So I gave him what I thought the headline would be. Todd,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. If the plane went down, what
Speaker 2: would the headline be with the celebrities. I used that
Speaker 2: in you know, small lettering or well for me when
Speaker 2: or I went down on that flight, Laura.
Speaker 5: Rutledge, others perish would be the time, be serious, Todd, you.
Speaker 2: Would probably get the headline there.
Speaker 6: I'd even put you ahead of urban Meyer Seaton.
Speaker 8: Uh, tragedy strikes.
Speaker 2: No headline like no one name singular, I am you, No, no,
Speaker 2: not me? It's Urban Meyer in fifty two others Parish Yes.
Speaker 9: Ma, legendary coach, legendary, legendary broadcaster among those Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3: If I were on the copy desk, I think I'm
Speaker 3: going Meyer Patrick among fifty six dead in plane crash.
Speaker 3: Because if it's a tie of famousness. You would lean
Speaker 3: towards alphabetical order ap style book Meyer.
Speaker 2: Patrick, So I think you got the tie. I would
Speaker 2: I think it would just be Urban Meyer and other No.
Speaker 3: No, You've had a longer run than Urban Meyer.
Speaker 2: I had a better career than Urban Mine.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you've had a longer run his career.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have minor Urban Mine at all time?
Speaker 3: You've had a much more, a much longer run of relevance.
Speaker 2: Well that's true.
Speaker 8: Yeah, First of all, why are you doing this last
Speaker 8: segment of the show, which had been running this poll
Speaker 8: question all day with this?
Speaker 2: I know? I just Marvin reminded me of it. He said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we flew back and you knew it was on our flight,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I'm going, what would
Speaker 2: the headline be? I got on a plane, I was
Speaker 2: in Chicago, and I'm I'm on the plane and the
Speaker 2: last person on was Paul Hornig, who played for the
Speaker 2: Packers Hall of Fame. Paul Hornick comes on, he sees me,
Speaker 2: he goes hey Hornig. Fifty two others perish on the flight.
Speaker 2: Remember that, Patrick, So you'd imagine the people who are
Speaker 2: around us sitting and all of a sudden he's talking
Speaker 2: about the plane goes down. It's going to be about
Speaker 2: the Golden Boy. He was the original Golden Boy.
Speaker 9: AnyWho, oh DP, Sorry not to cut you off, but
Speaker 9: to cut you off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: In Ohio, who gets the.
Speaker 2: Headline urban Meyer? Yeah? Yeah, yes, Mar, Yes, the headline
Speaker 2: might have just been gone. Yes see.
Speaker 8: Actually the question is in Michigan, who gets the head
Speaker 8: Oh me, are you sure?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: There might be a lot of joy on the other
Speaker 2: side of that. No, I don't have anything. Michigan doesn't
Speaker 2: have anything about urban Meyer dying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he would not be the headline.
Speaker 8: You don't think they would be celebrating dying more than
Speaker 8: a loss. That's what I'm trying to get at.
Speaker 2: So when did have an exclamation point after urban Meyer?
Speaker 2: We went again? I totally misread what you were saying.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, I love plane crash stare down
Speaker 3: by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, Ma, it's always and then Todd always
Speaker 2: goes I hate when you get morbide. That's why I
Speaker 2: do it. Amy in Michigan, Hi Amy, Hi Dan.
Speaker 11: I was calling about something else that Now I'm laughing
Speaker 11: because I'm from Michigan and I don't know what I
Speaker 11: would say to the plane, So I love you, love
Speaker 11: the dan Ats. I'm calling because I used to teach
Speaker 11: um employment readiness, and I always taught my students all
Speaker 11: employers and that includes NFL teams, want two basic things.
Speaker 11: Number one, am I going to hire you for the job?
Speaker 11: And are you going to do the job I hire
Speaker 11: you for?
Speaker 13: And two?
Speaker 11: Are you going to get along with the other people
Speaker 11: I hire to do their jobs? And I think that's
Speaker 11: what happened in the draft. If you don't have that
Speaker 11: on either one or Summer, Iffy, then Sanders doesn't get chosen.
Speaker 2: Amy, thank you, thank you for the wise words. Let's
Speaker 2: go around the room. What we learned?
Speaker 6: Todd?
Speaker 2: Would you learn today?
Speaker 5: I learned the t Wols have outscored the Lakers in
Speaker 5: the fourth court of this series so far, one oh
Speaker 5: five to sixty nine.
Speaker 2: Yikes, Seaton, The draft business is a mess.
Speaker 9: Rvin leg Learning's three months for Steph Curry.
Speaker 3: Paul Meyer, Patrick Plane, Crash Tigh, Todd.
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