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Speaker 1: And welcome in Lakes Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, November fourteenth, year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Jam packed.

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Speaker 2: I have no clue how many minutes, nay hours, we

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Speaker 2: may go tonight. We've got a jam packed show, though

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Speaker 2: we're gonna try and fit it in in a responsible

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Speaker 2: amount of time. We are high at Top downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about what Kansas did to Texas yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about what Samford almost did to Florida.

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Speaker 2: We've got about what fourteen games we need to touch on.

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Speaker 2: Auburn figured out a way to lead a game twenty

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Speaker 2: eight to three and trail at forty three to twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: In the same afternoon, We've got some news out of Auburn,

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Speaker 2: actually Bo Nicks. Just in the last hour this has

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Speaker 2: finally been confirmed ankle injury. Gonna miss the South Carolina game,

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Speaker 2: Gonna miss the Iron Bowl. Don't know how long he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be out. We'll talk about that in just a

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Speaker 2: little while. Jimmy Lake, head coach at Washington, no longer

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Speaker 2: looks like he's out, and so that that's a big

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Speaker 2: West Coast job opening. That's a big name in defensive circles.

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Speaker 2: That's all of a sudden going to be available for

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Speaker 2: hire if he so choose this. So we've got a

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Speaker 2: lot to get into and stuff, as it usually is,

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Speaker 2: breaking even on a Sunday night. Also, boy, what a

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Speaker 2: day yesterday at Baylor. Storm the field there at Baylor.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Oklahoma Baylor game, obviously

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Speaker 2: in much greater detail coming up.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, got about fourteen games that we need

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Speaker 1: to hit on.

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Speaker 2: But as we do so often on Sunday night, we've

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Speaker 2: also got to lead our show with talking about what

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Speaker 2: happened yesterday and then what's coming up this next week.

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Speaker 2: So let me just give you a little indication. As

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Speaker 2: you guys were steadily blowing up the DMS and some

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Speaker 2: of you who have the eye Josh number you were

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Speaker 2: texting me yesterday, we were on the field yesterday at

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Speaker 2: Baylor for that storm of well that's an entire sea

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Speaker 2: of the student section came down. But I was down

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Speaker 2: there and I saw some of you who are well

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Speaker 2: passed graduation who also made your way onto the field.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. You do what you want to do.

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Speaker 1: But it was a great time there at Baylor. Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We have not been on the field yet this season

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Speaker 2: for a field storming. If you'll remember, the last time

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Speaker 2: I was in Texas, I had an opportunity to go

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Speaker 2: down to Texas A and m IF I so chose

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Speaker 2: when they were playing Alabama second to the last time

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Speaker 2: I was in Texas, and I declined. So I was

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Speaker 2: in the air watching the field get stormed. Yesterday, we

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Speaker 2: were on the field watching the field get stormed. And

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Speaker 2: so the Renaissance Tour took us to Waco yesterday and

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Speaker 2: that was a great time. And I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: a lot more about that, both later in the show

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Speaker 2: tonight and on the Tuesday morning Late Kick Extra podcast.

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Speaker 2: But that's not what we lead the show with. What

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Speaker 2: we lead the show with is telling you where we're

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Speaker 2: headed this next week. And so already before I even

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Speaker 1: There was some Montana versus Montana.

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Speaker 2: State Energy, and don't laugh at that, I've been looking

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Speaker 2: at that for several weeks.

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Speaker 1: We had to end up crossing it off.

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Speaker 2: The list because, believe it or not, not many Bozeman

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Speaker 2: screing bias because of.

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Speaker 1: That, and I retort, no, it's not bias.

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Speaker 2: I've just got to have a logistical and ieological way

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Speaker 2: So without further ado, Colin, let's show the people where

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Speaker 2: we're going this week, because I showed you our two finalists.

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Speaker 2: But I got to tell you it's really hard to

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Speaker 2: We are headed to Ohio State. They are hosting Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: This is a monumentally huge game in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: Some people are remembering Ohio State as different than what

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Speaker 2: They've got a loss already. Not in the Big ten,

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Speaker 2: the most stunning thing to ever come out of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen Ohio State play football game in person.

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Speaker 2: going to Ohio State this Saturday. We're looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of our friends there in the Columbus market,

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Speaker 2: and I know good andwell you guys are listening.

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Speaker 1: I expect to be on air with you at some

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to cough and say Dave Biddle's name,

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Speaker 2: among several of you. We're looking forward to that Renaissance

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Speaker 2: tour in week twelve. Now, we've gotten a great reception

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Speaker 2: more about where we were yesterday coming up. Where do

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Speaker 2: kick with filling the blank and put your name on

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Speaker 1: To me, I was gonna lead off with the game

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Speaker 2: I was gonna lead off with Florida struggling, and we're

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Speaker 2: about to talk about both of those, but that's not

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Speaker 2: what we're leading off with. Kansas beat Texas in a

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the lion even was. Wi Fi

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Speaker 2: And then whereas I watched the beginning of this game

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Speaker 2: this was a pretty long game. And there it is,

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Speaker 2: Kansas has a shot to go for two. They do it,

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Speaker 1: It's been ugly either way.

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Speaker 2: Oh it matters, It very much matters if you convert

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Speaker 2: that young man's going to have the surrender Cobra. If

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Speaker 2: of himself. Fame's fame, buddy own it. But also, Sark's

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Speaker 2: his neck. I lost to Kansas. Now that's not always

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Speaker 2: the end all be all. Nick Saban lost to La Monroe.

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Speaker 2: Every coach uses that. That's the bad part. Every coach

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Speaker 2: Saban lost to Louisiana Monroe. Why don't you go off

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Speaker 2: and rattle half a dozen championships off like he did?

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Speaker 2: After that, Bo Davis told us. Bo Davis told us

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Speaker 2: Bo Davis told us exactly what was wrong with Texas. And,

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Speaker 1: As she would say, proof, there's your proof. Bo Davis

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Speaker 2: if a team checks out, there is no safety net.

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Speaker 2: The thinking sometimes even if a team has lost its

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Speaker 2: they got turnover issues. No, those teams have a safety

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Speaker 2: does not matter how many stars were next to anyone's name.

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Speaker 1: It's not a team anymore. That's the whole point.

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Speaker 2: You've got to go play a team game on a

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Speaker 2: Saturday and you just have individuals literally, not the figurative way.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times you say it literal. You don't

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Speaker 2: have a team. And yesterday Texas really didn't have a team.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about something else in what two

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Speaker 2: While some people were looking to take selfies once in

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Speaker 2: Our friends at Academy Sports and Outdoors always love to

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Speaker 2: The good news, I guess, as they scored seventy yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And basically what.

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Speaker 1: Be watching less Ted Lasso and you need to be

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Speaker 2: you've got certain standards you have to meet in order

440
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 2: to achieve satisfaction amongst your fan base, even if you win.

441
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 2: If Florida obviously did not meet that yesterday, but Dan

442
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 2: Mullen didn't want to acknowledge that. Now, that's all well

443
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 2: and good because of the next thing, Dan Mullen's not

444
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 2: going to be the coach at Florida in twenty twenty two.

445
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,399
Speaker 2: So all of this is going to be a moot point.

446
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 2: This has turned pretty quickly. I think it's turned in

447
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 2: the last month. Told you last week. Dan Mullen's not

448
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 2: getting his team back. When they're gone. They're gone. And

449
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: the only difference between Florida and twenty twenty one and

450
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 2: Florida in twenty twenty is this team when it quit

451
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: on Dan Mullin still had a month's worth of football

452
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 2: left to play, whereas the team last year quit before

453
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 2: the bowl game. So at least that was the finish line.

454
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: You don't get teams back. Once they walk out the door,

455
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 2: they're gone. There is no re entry. Dan Mullin's not

456
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 2: going to be the coach at Florida next year. I

457
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 2: have very little doubt about that. I have not spoken

458
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: to anyone who I consider semi informed on the matter

459
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,199
Speaker 2: today that thought. Otherwise, everyone thinks it's a matter of

460
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 2: when at this point, not if. But the two things

461
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Speaker 2: that I refuse to hear from anyone who does push

462
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 2: back on this is number one, it's not time, because

463
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: it is.

464
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 1: That's a side note. The two things I refuse to hear.

465
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Speaker 2: Are, well, you know he's got that buyout, twelve million dollars,

466
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: got that buyout. I was standing on the field in Waco,

467
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 2: Texas yesterday and they awarded a family who had given

468
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars to the university, not thousand, not

469
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: even one million, one hundred million. And I had stats

470
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: and info crunch the numbers, and that is one two, three,

471
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Speaker 2: four five, That is eight zeros. Florida's haggling over what

472
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Speaker 2: some people are concerned over what twelve million dollars. If

473
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Speaker 2: you want to flex that SEC muscle, flex it when

474
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 2: it's time. Don't flex it when Georgia wins Sugar Bowl

475
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: and you just chant SEC along with everyone else. No,

476
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: when it's time to flex the SEC muscle is when

477
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: you may need to get off that back pocket, that

478
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: hit pocket where that while it's supposed to be, And

479
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 2: maybe you need to pay a couple extra dollars to

480
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: rectify a situation that is past needing to be rectified.

481
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Speaker 2: First thing I won't hear is Florida can't afford it.

482
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: The second thing I will not hear is the market

483
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: is too crowded. Because I had someone come at me

484
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: with this yesterday. Well, it's not the best of times

485
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 2: for Florida to be looking for a new coach.

486
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: I asked why. They said, well, you know, LSU is

487
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: already open and USC is already open. And I reiterate,

488
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 1: this is Florida. This is not Florida A and M.

489
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: It is Florida.

490
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Speaker 2: No offense to the Ratlers, but you get what I'm saying.

491
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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think people outside of Gainesville think more highly

492
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: of the status and stature of this program than some

493
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,719
Speaker 2: people inside the bubble. There's this weird inferiority complex, at

494
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: least among some of the Gator folks I talk to,

495
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: that they don't measure up just because you're not measuring

496
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Speaker 2: up on.

497
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: A field right now.

498
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: That's totally isolated and separate from what the right pool

499
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: of candidates thinks you would be capable of if they

500
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Speaker 2: led your program. And so I'm not gonna listen to

501
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Speaker 2: anyone tell me Florida can't afford it.

502
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Speaker 1: I'm not certainly not.

503
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Gonna listen to anyone say, uh, give them a little

504
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: more time. It's not time yet. And I'm not gonna

505
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 2: listen to anyone tell me, well, Florida the University of

506
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: can't be competitive in the open market?

507
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

508
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Speaker 2: If you feel that way and you are a decision maker,

509
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: If you're a decision maker at Florida and you feel

510
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: the market being too crowded is a deterrent and you

511
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 2: can't hang and your job is not an elite caliber.

512
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: You need to get out of the way and let

513
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: other people make decisions. And for that matter, if you're undeceated,

514
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 2: if you're undecided right now and you're looking at these

515
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: upcoming games Missouri and Florida State and you're saying, well,

516
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: let's let the outcomes there decide this, you also need

517
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: to get out of the way. If anyone around Florida

518
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: is looking at these last two games and saying, I

519
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: don't know yet whether Mullin's still our guy, but I'll

520
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 2: tell you what I'll know after a game in Columbia Missouri,

521
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: or I'll know after a game against Florida State. You

522
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: don't have a proper perspective on how this stuff works,

523
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: and you need to get out of the way and

524
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: let someone who has a lot more grip on rationale

525
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: make the decision. There is nothing you're going to learn

526
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: over the next two weeks you don't already know about

527
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: Dan Mullen. Noow, if you want to tell me I've

528
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: seen enough, he's still my guy, we'll just agree to disagree.

529
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: But if you look at me and you say I

530
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 2: don't know about it yet, next eight quarters of football

531
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: will tell the tale after however, many years, next eight

532
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: quarters of football will tell the tale where a bounce

533
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: of a ball or a boink off the upright could

534
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: change a win to a loss, or a loss to

535
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: a win. You don't need to see anymore. And so

536
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: those are some of the things that I got pushed

537
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: back on yesterday that I just dismiss. Wholesale, can't afford it,

538
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: crowded market. Well, let's let him finish the season. Then

539
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 2: we'll make a decision. You can let him finish the season.

540
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: But your decision should long since have been made by

541
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Speaker 2: this point, because I can't see this continuing into twenty

542
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Speaker 2: twenty two.

543
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Can't see it.

544
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: Sample size is plenty big enough. If Dan Mullen shows

545
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: up at SEC media days next summer, the fans will

546
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: go crazy, that's true. The problem is it's the fans

547
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: in Athens and Tallahassee and Baton Rouge and you get

548
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: the point there. So it is time. It is pastime.

549
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: Let's go on to a much more happier subject. Please please,

550
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: I just want to smile.

551
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: That's all anyone wants to do around here. I'll tell you.

552
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: On a related note, man, it'd be nice if it

553
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: was blow eighty degrees in the studio, Colin. Can you

554
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: imagine a day where we have a functioning air conditioner

555
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: in here?

556
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes we asked for too much.

557
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: Baylor twenty seven, Oklahoma fourteen. The Renaissance Tour strikes gold

558
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: yet again. I mean I was on the field yesterday

559
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: and about the last six minutes you could tell, obviously

560
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Baylor's about.

561
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: To win this thing.

562
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: And then I'm looking behind me to the student section,

563
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: and obviously they're about to come on the field. Neither

564
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: was a great mystery as the clock wound down to zero,

565
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: and so I pulled the eye Josh out and I

566
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: shot the footage that you're looking at right now. And

567
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: the bad part is they stormed it, and then they

568
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: had to be pushed off the field because there were

569
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: a couple seconds left, and then they stormed it again,

570
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: all under the bright sunshine of Waco, Texas. Because friends

571
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: again if you ever find someone who loves you as

572
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: much as I love the noon eastern eleven am kickoff,

573
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: you will be at a great spot in life. All

574
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: this just looks better under God's light instead of the

575
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: artificial stuff night games. Sometimes we got to go to him.

576
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: But you give me this all afternoon. Hey, this was

577
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: a great scene. And these folks were charged up, they

578
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: were ready. It was like last week's loss against TCU

579
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: had never happened, and every single soul in that stadium

580
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: it felt like poured out onto the field. Also, I'm

581
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: going to talk about this a lot more on the

582
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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning Late Kick Extra podcast. Best press box meal

583
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: ever ever chicken and waffle Sammy's with dippable syrup, by

584
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: the way, and then at halftime, if that wasn't good enough,

585
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: a popcorn chicken spread with a hash brown spread.

586
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta stop. This was my mouse water. It

587
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: was great. Everything was great yesterday. It's right on I

588
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Speaker 1: thirty five.

589
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: I did not even have so much as hit my

590
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: brakes coming in there going out.

591
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: It was great.

592
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: So I highly endorse games at Baylor. I had a

593
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: great time right there on the river, beautiful setting. So

594
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk a lot more about the experience Tuesday,

595
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: but I had a strong reaction to Baylor and in

596
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: particular Dave Randa, yesterday, and I think for the Oklahoma

597
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: side of things, there are some bad things to be

598
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: taken away. I think there's one ray of sunshine here,

599
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: and so let's dive into it, because man, this was

600
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: just a beating at the hands of Baylor, and it

601
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: was also a game where they shot themselves in the foot.

602
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they left opportunities and points on the field

603
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: early and still ended up pulling away in the game.

604
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: So hats off sincerely to Dave Randa and his staff.

605
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: Listen to these numbers and keep in mind as I

606
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: read this, Oklahoma is off a bye. You're saying the

607
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: same thing that you said about Alabama last week, and

608
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: that is, hey, we're going to get the best version

609
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: of them. Whatever it is, we're going to get the best. Well,

610
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma ran fifty three total plays yesterday, two hundred and

611
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: sixty total yards, two of nine on third down, sacked

612
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: five times, nine tackles for loss, twenty eight rushes seventy

613
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: eight yards.

614
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: That's about two point eight per clip.

615
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Gary Bohannon, quarterback over there for Baylor, who

616
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: was very outspoken after the game and played very well

617
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: during the game, said, we knew we needed to be

618
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: the more violent team. So that was the takeaway from

619
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: the TCU game last week. I needed to be a

620
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: more violent player. That's your quarterback, by the way, and

621
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: said we needed to be a more violent team, and

622
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: they were. They were just physically more imposing than Oklahoma was.

623
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: Recruiting rankings would beg to differ. Recruiting rankings would tell

624
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: you that's not the way that's supposed to play out.

625
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: But yet Baylor begged to differ as well. Look, you

626
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: need to take note of something here, and I want

627
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 2: you to think about full context. Baylor, folks, I want

628
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: to close years for just a second. All right, there

629
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: is a job market out there that Dave Aranda's name

630
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: should have major traction them. You guys can come back

631
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: to the table now. I want you to know this

632
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: about Baylor. They lost to TCU last week. A lot

633
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: of you watched that, But now I want you to

634
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: keep in mind what we've seen elsewhere in the country

635
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: and what we see every November. We see every November

636
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: teams that have lofty goals and aspirations. They lose a

637
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: critical game and then the rest of their season goes

638
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: in the tank, and it's because of a factor that happens.

639
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: It has a domino effect and then it impacts the

640
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: rest of their season. Adversely, Well, Baylor lost a game

641
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: and then responded with the best football that they've played

642
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: all year. So how do you do that? Well, it's leadership,

643
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: but it's that sea word, it's culture. But Dave Iranda

644
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: postgame did not give you some flippant, blank, kind of

645
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: a canned response when asked about that.

646
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: Dave I.

647
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Randa postgame had some of the best stuff you'll hear

648
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: out of a head coach all year.

649
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: He was asked about that lost.

650
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Last week against TCU and then how they responded so

651
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: well this week against Oklahoma, and he said, well, it

652
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: aggravated me a little bit that it mattered, And I

653
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: know that kind of goes over a lot of people's heads.

654
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: And Dave Randa, he's not very illustrate, kind of monotone,

655
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: and so when he talks, he doesn't reach through the

656
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: screen and grab you. But what he's saying is really

657
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: profound there and it's the key to any successful organization.

658
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: He said, it almost aggravates me. And it's something we

659
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: got to focus on that it mattered that we had

660
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: to lose in order to get this kind of response.

661
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: And what he was also doing was looking ahead to

662
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: the Kansas State game and saying, okay, well, if we

663
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: got this response but it was predicated on losing last week,

664
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: well then what is winning a big game mean about

665
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: our future? That's a guy who understands standard and it's

666
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: a guy who understands the same thing a Nick Saban

667
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: understands or a Kirby Smart understands. They understand that long

668
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: term success instead of celebrating one week and then get

669
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: knocked off the next week.

670
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: It's about all that external stuff not mattering.

671
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: But that goes against conventional wisdom, because conventional wisdom tells

672
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: you you need to either get humiliated or disrespected.

673
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: In order to get your best. You know.

674
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: It's just like when I go to the gym, I

675
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: refuse to listen to music in the gym. I don't

676
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: ever have phones on because I don't believe that you

677
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: need an external source to pull maximum effort out of you.

678
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: You don't need it.

679
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: If it's pulling it out of you, it was already

680
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: there to begin with, Well, Dave Randa, in a much

681
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: more football sense, is telling you why do you need

682
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: to lose in order to pull this kind of effort

683
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: out of you? And his players probably don't feel like that,

684
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: man to man because they're eighteen or nineteen years old.

685
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: But that's a guy who's already got a lifetime of

686
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: experience under his belt. But I was, to be honest

687
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: with you, really impacted by being around him this weekend

688
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: because I have not been around Dave Randa. I've watched

689
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: him from Afar, but we had some time with him

690
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: this weekend. I was really impacted by him. And I

691
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: think that guy is going to be a star for

692
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: a long time as a head coach. I think he's

693
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: only starting to ascend. I think he got some things

694
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: from an offensive perspective and from a operational and management

695
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: perspective figured out just this last year, and I think

696
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: he is going to rapidly ascend. So if you got

697
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: a job opening out there, if I had one at

698
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: Peyton State, that guy would be among the first folks

699
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: I would come. There is a cerebral nature about him,

700
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: and there's a perspective on success, and there's a perspective

701
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: on organization and mentality that he not only professes but

702
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: grasps the ability to instill in a roster that I

703
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: don't think most coaches that you're gonna hear more about do.

704
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: So that's my endorsement for Dave Randa. Oklahoma coming out

705
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 2: of the bye boy expected a lot more. Didn't get

706
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: it from Oklahoma. Baylor had a lot to do with that, obviously,

707
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: and again.

708
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: It was the same thing as Bama last week.

709
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: You expect one thing, you expect best effort, you expect maximum.

710
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: That's why I thought Oklahoma would win the game, and

711
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: you just never got it.

712
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: And so what have we talked about?

713
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: There have been three teams that you and I have

714
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: talked about this year a lot oh You, Bama, Ohio State.

715
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: And those are rosters with pretty elite, top end potential.

716
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: It's been a question of when are they going to peak,

717
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: which one of them or ones of them will peak,

718
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: and when they do, what's it going to look like.

719
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that we're going to get it from Oklahoma.

720
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 2: Maybe we won't get it from Bama. Got it from

721
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: Ohio State yesterday. Maybe we're going to go one three

722
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: on that. But there is a silver lining here, So

723
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: I got some good with the bad. I mean the

724
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: silver lining to mention Alabama is I remember that twenty

725
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: nineteen Bama team. They ended up not going to the

726
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: playoff for the first time. They went to the Citrus Bowl.

727
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: It was a good team.

728
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: They were one year away from being the best version

729
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: of Bama I think Nick Saban has had.

730
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: But they weren't quite there yet.

731
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: And it's felt a lot like Oklahoma this year, to

732
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: be frank just you got the pieces, They're not quite

733
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: there yet. So they go to the Citrus Bowl instead

734
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: of going to a playoff game that they probably would.

735
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Have gotten beaten them. And they beat Michigan in the

736
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Citrus Bowl, the Verbo Citrus Bowl.

737
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: And I was there for that game, and I remember

738
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: afterwards thinking, this team kind of never tuned out. You got, oh,

739
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: look there's Naja Harris, he's coming back. There's a DeVante

740
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: Smith he's coming back. There's a Jaylen Wattle, he'll be back.

741
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: They had stars all over the place and they're all playing.

742
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: Some of them were going to the NFL. Played Oklahoma

743
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: may feel a lot like that, just because they adorned

744
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: every cover of every preview magazine doesn't mean it's just

745
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: automatic that they fulfill all of that. Maybe they weren't

746
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: quite as good as a lot of people thought they were.

747
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: It's not the first time that's ever happened. What I

748
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: am saying is falling short of expectation in a given year.

749
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: If you view this as a continuum, it can have

750
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: some positive effects because maybe it puts them in a

751
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: more advantageous position to end their season on a high note,

752
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: and you never know what that means for the next year.

753
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: But they were the second most physical team on the

754
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: field yesterday. That's what stood out to me the most.

755
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: They were the second most physical team on the field.

756
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: And that's not something that should ever be acceptable for

757
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: Oklahoma in Big Twelve play.

758
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean that to me is the thing they focus

759
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: on moving forward.

760
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, before I toss this piece of

761
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: paper to the side, I'm going to talk about this

762
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: a lot more Tuesday. But our guy James Helms, you

763
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: don't know him yet, but you're about to. When I complained,

764
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: excuse me, when I told a story that sounded a

765
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: lot like complaining about my nightmare travel experience to college

766
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: station and all the previous week, a lot of you

767
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: were listening.

768
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: I had some.

769
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: I had an American Airlines pilot reach out and offer assistance.

770
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: I also had James Helms reach out. He's given me

771
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: the freedom to use his first and last name. Young

772
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: James runs an enterprise car rental not at Dallas Love

773
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: or DFW, but just off campus. And he said, you

774
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna take care of you. There's not

775
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: a rental car to be found for five hundred square

776
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: miles around this state, but I'm gonna take care of you.

777
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: And James Helms dead. So all I'm saying is, wherever

778
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: the decision makers are out there in the enterprise ecosystem,

779
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: you got a guy that I am begging and pleading

780
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: with you to promote our Christmas bonus or whatever.

781
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: You need to do.

782
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: But James Helms, they're in Irving, Texas at Enterprise. He

783
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: shoots right up to our power rating top ten listener

784
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: and viewer list because he hooked us up in a

785
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: big way this week and took care of us when

786
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: seemingly no one else out there in the rental car

787
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: ecosystem wanted to.

788
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: So thank you, James Helms. You were the MVP this

789
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: this week.

790
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 2: Let's move on Georgia beat Tennessee yesterday Georgia forty one,

791
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee seventeen. I was just talking about Dave Randa and Baylor.

792
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: I want you to take a long.

793
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Listen if you have time, to Dave Randa, and I

794
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: want you to listen specifically what he said about making

795
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: it not matter it meaning any external factor. And then

796
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: I want you to watch the Georgia Bulldogs play because

797
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 2: Georgia is the personification of what Dave Randa is talking about.

798
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: And to explain to you what I mean.

799
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: This week alone, you had guys having off field issues

800
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: and it didn't matter for Georgia. On Saturday, you had

801
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: guys out with the flu, it didn't matter for Georgia.

802
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: On Saturday. You had a.

803
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: Season ending injury and it didn't matter for Georgia on Saturday.

804
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: For that matter, They're in the game on Saturday, down

805
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: on the road early, and none of it mattered. None

806
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: of it mattered because the great teams don't make it matter.

807
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: The great teams just play to a standard every week.

808
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: The whole nameless, faceless opponent thing. You think it's boring,

809
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: you think it's coach speak. I'm telling you it's the

810
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: formula to win a championship. Georgia didn't make any of

811
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: it matter yesterday. They just went and took care of business.

812
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: There's some facets that're probably not one happy with I'm

813
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: telling you, inside linebackers probably not one of those facets.

814
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: But there are some aspects that they can improve on.

815
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Any kind of perfectionist is gonna find ways to improve.

816
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: But Georgia ended up taking a game in a spot

817
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: that a lot of people had circled around here and

818
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: had said, Oh, I don't know, no one's run tempo,

819
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: no one's throwing the ball a lot on them, and

820
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: Tennessee had some success yesterday, but Georgia still won the

821
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: game forty one to seventeen, and kneelan that's the takeaway,

822
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: all of it, all the externals, all the stuff that

823
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 2: could knock a lesser team off the rails, didn't impact

824
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: Georgia in any kind of negative way. And by the way,

825
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: just a few things that stood out to me. I

826
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: was talking about that inside linebacker corps. Kirby Smart could

827
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: coach at Georgia another twenty years. He may not have

828
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: an inside linebacker corps better than he has right now.

829
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: Nakobe Dean and Channing Tendel and kway Walker. When I

830
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: look at those guys, the first thing you see is

831
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: outstanding linebacker play.

832
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: But also what I think about.

833
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Is the dog fight they had pun intended I guess,

834
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: to land those guys in recruiting. Like I remember Nakobe

835
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: Dean looked like he was going to Bama. He's at Georgia.

836
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: Kway Walker, I think may have been committed to Bama

837
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: at one point. He's at Georgia. Like a lot of

838
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: these guys, you can extend beyond the linebacker corps. A

839
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: lot of these guys, by nature of how good they are,

840
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: they had high profile recruitments. You just think about how

841
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: much of an emphasis they put on recruiting, and then

842
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: you can go up and down the roster and you

843
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: can remember the stories vividly of each of these kids

844
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: that they ended up landing. It's the key to success,

845
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: it's the name of the game. You don't have to

846
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: make it any more or less fancy than that. I

847
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: feel like everyone's in a holding pattern now because the

848
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: other big takeaway I had I was reading Slash listening

849
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: to a lot of what Rusty Manzel over at Dogs

850
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. Has said about Stetson Bennett, and

851
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: the key kind of point that I think a lot

852
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: of people, Rusty included had after this game is, Hey,

853
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: it's Stetson Bennett's team.

854
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: We've talked about it some on this show. He's talking

855
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: about it.

856
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: Everyone around George is talking about it. It is Stetson

857
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: Bennett's team right now, quarterback for Georgia. So what I

858
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: feel from pretty much everyone now is everyone's in a

859
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: holding pattern on Georgia football. And it stems from this

860
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: quarterback situation because no one's changing.

861
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: Their mind now.

862
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you're deep into an election

863
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: season one week to go, no one's really changing their mind.

864
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's ready to go vote. It's the same way with

865
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: Georgia at quarterback. You either do or don't think that

866
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett is equipped to win a national championship at Georgia, which,

867
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: to be very clear, is the way they will define

868
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: success or failure this year. And playing against Tennessee, no disrespect,

869
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: it's not going to change your mind. Playing against Georgia

870
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Tech's not going to change your mind. The first opportunity

871
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: that Georgia is going to have to really change anyone's

872
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: mind in a discernible way is December fourth in Atlanta

873
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: against probably Alabama in the SEC Championship game. The thing

874
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: that we were watching a lot this weekend was is

875
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Tennessee going to expose anything even if they lose?

876
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: That really indicates there's.

877
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: Another team down the road that can capitalize on this

878
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: particular thing that Tennessee exposed. And then there were some

879
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: things here and there, but I don't really think there

880
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: was one glaring issue. And that may mean it's still

881
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: there and Tennessee didn't find it, or it may mean

882
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: there's no glaring issue really there. I think the latter

883
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: would be a lot more fortuitous for Georgia. But I

884
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: went to director Colin, who is both my source on

885
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: the ap Pole and Tennessee football, and I said, Colin,

886
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: I could talk about Tennessee tonight, but I really want

887
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: to know what you feel. And Director Collins quote was,

888
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: I can't wait till next season. Director Colin liked some

889
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: things that Tennessee was able.

890
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: To do yesterday.

891
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: It is costs for celebration around the SEC. If you

892
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: score seventeen on Georgia, that's not even a joke. That's

893
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: just real life. In twenty twenty one around here. And

894
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: so Tennessee's had some situations this year where they've played

895
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: against Old Miss or the second half against Alabama, or

896
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: some of the first half against Georgia where you look

897
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: and you say, I like that.

898
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.

899
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Now I need to add this, this, and this, and

900
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: we'll be a pretty formidable product next year. Went to

901
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: beat Kentucky. That's a big deal.

902
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: But Tennessee, I mean it's on the right track.

903
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's doubting the hire of Josh Hipel

904
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: right now. In fact, I was doing some radio last week.

905
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: Canoxville question kind of came out of left field. I

906
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 2: don't have any reason to believe this is gonna happen.

907
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the bigger point that I would be

908
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: focusing on right now is is Josh Hipel doing such

909
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: a good job at Tennessee that other people want him again.

910
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: That's not to start a rumor. I haven't heard anything

911
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: like that. It was just a random question that was

912
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: thrown out. So suffice it to say, it's been a

913
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: good first year all things considered in Tennessee. Like think

914
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: think of what they were going through when they hired

915
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: Josh Hippel thinks could be a whole lot worse.

916
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: Trust me.

917
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Let's move down to Oxford, Mississippi. Game we could have

918
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 2: been at yesterday, but we chose Waco. Think we made

919
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: the right choice, but this would have been a good

920
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: game too, Ole Miss twenty nine Texas A and M nineteen.

921
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: First thing I did when I got home last night

922
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: is I grabbed a piece of chalk Sharpee will have

923
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: to suffice for the example here, and I found the

924
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: nearest blackboard, got them all over my apartment, and I

925
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: took the chalk and I wrote I will not disrespect

926
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: the model a thousand times. And then I put the

927
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: chalk down, put my hands behind my back, Bart Simpson style,

928
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: and I just stared at that chalkboard because, as I

929
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: told you last week, the model had this game as

930
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: its best bet, Old Miss best bet, rebels best bet.

931
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: And what did your boy do?

932
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: He came on the show, right here in front of

933
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: you and God and everyone, and he said to you,

934
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: third person, Now, the model.

935
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: Does like old Miss.

936
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: But you know what, as much as I tell you

937
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: to trust this model, we're gonna wad it up. We're

938
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: gonna throw it over our shoulder and we're gonna roll

939
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: with Texas A and M. And then there I was

940
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: last night watching Old Miss only be up fifteen somehow

941
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: despite having accumulated half a season's worth of offense in

942
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: the first half, and I just I felt number one shame,

943
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: but then number two, I felt validation because there is

944
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: one friends one poll out there that's had Ole Miss

945
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: in the top ten the entire season, top five in

946
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: a lot of cases, and it's us. It's the JP Poll,

947
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: and we've taken a lot of flight for it. How

948
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: can you have Ole Miss up here after they lost?

949
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: How can you have them up here? Well, I'll tell

950
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 2: you how, because they're one of the six or seven

951
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: best teams in the country right now, and by that

952
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean they'd be favored against all but about five

953
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: or six or seven teams in the country. And we've

954
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: thought that way about them all year. So there's some validation.

955
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna choose to be positive and say, the JP

956
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: pole nailed this, The model nailed this. The human here

957
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: did not, but that's why we have the model. So

958
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: the halftime box score total and utter violence. I want

959
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: you to explain to me on what planet is this

960
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: team only up fifteen points.

961
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: And by this team, I mean the one that.

962
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: Has a four to eight to ninety one total yards advetage,

963
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: It has a twenty three to two five first down advantage,

964
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: it has a fifty eight.

965
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: To twenties having plays run advantage.

966
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: That is a formula for a forty two to nothing

967
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: blanking in the first half. And yet because Old Miss

968
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: was a total unmitigated disaster in the red zone, they

969
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: were only up fifteen to nothing. Ole Miss had two

970
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven yards on the ground yesterday. It's

971
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: the most rushing yardage that Texas A and M has

972
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: given up all year. And yet that really was not

973
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: the thing that stood out to me the most. The

974
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 2: thing that stood out is the thing we talked about

975
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: all summer. We asked, can Ole Miss play average defense? Well,

976
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: they are a little bit better than average. Actually, Ole

977
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: Miss is a pretty good defensive unit at the moment.

978
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: A lot of the transfer portal moves they made are

979
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: paying off, and their defense stepped up last night and

980
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: at times it is stepped up all year. Think about

981
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: the game where they ended up beating Tennessee. We go

982
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: into that thing you expect a track meet, and what

983
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: was it thirty one to twenty six or something like that.

984
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: They score thirty one, still good enough to win. I

985
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: mean ole Miss, they have checked a lot of the boxes.

986
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: It's just they play a schedule that it's really.

987
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: Hard to win every week against.

988
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: If ole Miss had a schedule the likes of which

989
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 2: Clemson has played, or the likes of which, let's say,

990
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, Oklahoma State has played, they may very well

991
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: be undefeated right now. But as it is, they are

992
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: a two loss in fact, an eight and two right

993
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: now team. With games against Vandy and Mississippi State left,

994
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: this could be a ten win team. And that leads

995
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people to lie in bed, awake late

996
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: at night, having sort of a battle, sort of an

997
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: angel and demon, if you will, argument in their mind,

998
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: if your job's open and Lane Kiffin's doing this, you

999
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: got football and then you got off the field and

1000
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: you got reputation and you got I heard that, and

1001
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: they told me this. I don't I'm glad I don't

1002
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: have to make the decision, to be honest with you,

1003
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: but I know a lot of people are wrestling with

1004
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: it because what you don't want to do is you

1005
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: don't want to bring a guy in and have him

1006
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: embarrass you. But what you also don't want to do

1007
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: is not hire the guy that ends up embarrassing.

1008
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: You because he's beating you.

1009
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: And so a lot of athletic directors, a lot of

1010
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: search committees and search firms out there, they're struggling with that. Tonight,

1011
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: they got a shot, I mean, they got a shot

1012
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: at ten wins, and for that matter, Texas A and

1013
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: M has a shot at nine wins. And you may say, oh,

1014
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: that falls well short of expectation, thought this was going

1015
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: to be the year. Well, they lost their quarterback and

1016
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: have a shot at nine wins. So let me be clear,

1017
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: that's still a success. It's still very much successful. They've

1018
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: got Prairie View and then they go to LSU. But

1019
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: the focus right now for Texas A and M is

1020
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: not so much going to be on Prairie View or LSU. Well,

1021
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: it'll be on LSU early signing day is where the

1022
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: focus shifts now for Texas A and M. Because they've

1023
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: got a shot at the number one class in the country.

1024
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: At the very least, they're going to be way up there.

1025
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: And so you've got a nice game here, not a

1026
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: nice game, but a nice season that you can put

1027
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: a bow on, hopefully with an emphatic win against LSU,

1028
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: and then you go to a nice bowl game. But

1029
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: then you really wrap it up tight when you get

1030
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: that recruiting clabs on board, because that is the domino

1031
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: that everyone around there is waiting to fall right now,

1032
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: and it's gonna fall. It's going to fall. It's just

1033
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to wait about a month for it

1034
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: to happen. Some more added takeaways here from week eleven,

1035
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: and then we'll give you our early best bets and

1036
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: get out of here. Some added takeaways from week eleven.

1037
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: How about this Auburn Mississippi State game. I have no clue,

1038
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: you ask me, I have no clue. So the final

1039
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: here is Mississippi State forty three, Auburn thirty four. How

1040
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: anyone who watched the game? How how does Auburn lead

1041
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: a game twenty eight to three and trail it forty

1042
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: three to twenty eight in the same afternoon.

1043
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: I can't make any sense of that. For the record,

1044
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: that is forty unanswered.

1045
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: That Mike Leach and Will Rogers and Mississippi State rattled

1046
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: off bow knicks had a good day yesterday. He was

1047
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: twenty seven to forty one. He threw it for three

1048
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: seventy seven, two touchdows, no interceptions. Bon Nicks the news

1049
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: late this afternoon is ankle injury. He is out for

1050
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: the remainder of the regular season at least, and then

1051
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: it remains to be seen about any kind of bowl game.

1052
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: But he was one upped by Will Rogers, who goes

1053
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: forty four of fifty five, four hundred and fifteen yards,

1054
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: six touchdowns. Just a crazy second half comeback, and you're

1055
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: watching it. I went back and watched it this morning,

1056
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: and the whole time you're knowing the ending, You're asking yourself,

1057
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: how is that ending? How is that final score going

1058
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: to be made possible? And right there in front of you.

1059
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: It happens crazy to watch Mississippi State. Probably one of

1060
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: the more underrated coaching jobs and overall teams in America

1061
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 2: right now is Mississippi State because they're so anonymous, because

1062
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: they're not in the thick of any race. But yet

1063
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: they're playing pretty good football. And I know the Playoff

1064
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: committeees had them ranked. I mean, we've had them power rated.

1065
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: They're just they're playing good football. They're in the wrong division,

1066
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: But hats off to Mississippi State. It would have been

1067
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: so easy at twenty eight to three. It would have

1068
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: been so easy to do what a lot of teams

1069
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: with better resources than you are doing right now now,

1070
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: and that's laying down in Mississippi State didn't. Florida State

1071
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: gets off the deck thirty one to twenty eight FSU

1072
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: beats Miami. I really felt like the first quarter telegraphed

1073
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: a lot of this thing, and it ended up doing so. Now,

1074
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: Miami made it a game in the end, but when

1075
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: you have three turnovers and eight penalties in the first quarter,

1076
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: that screams two things. Number one is going to be

1077
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: a long afternoon for you. But your opposition only scored

1078
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: ten points off those turnovers, so you still had a shot.

1079
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: But the second thing it screams is you're not ready

1080
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: to play. I think we all know who that falls

1081
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: in the lap of More on that in a second.

1082
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: But Florida State's defense was huge here, same theme as

1083
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: we talked about with Old miss They stuffed the run,

1084
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 2: They held Tyler van Dyke, so I want to say

1085
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: fifty three percent completion percentage, and so several facets of

1086
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: this team did what it collectively needed to do.

1087
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: To win yesterday. It's so big for recruiting.

1088
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: I know a lot of you aren't paying attention right

1089
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: now because we're not talking about FSU or Miami being

1090
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: in the top five, but in order to eventually get there,

1091
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's a progression. And right now, there were

1092
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: some kids in that stadium yesterday that were going to

1093
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: decide between these two teams.

1094
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: And I think that it's.

1095
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: Pretty clear one is trending in a better direction than

1096
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: the other. That's not just drawing from one result, although

1097
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: the result matters a whole lot. That's why they play

1098
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: the game. And so Mike Norvel and his staff, they

1099
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: got a big win there. They will reap the reward

1100
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: and the benefit from that. I don't know what's going

1101
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: to happen with Manny Diaz. I think they're going to

1102
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: finish the season. I don't feel great about it down there.

1103
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't have any intel on many das. I don't

1104
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 2: feel great about it. I know that before they win

1105
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: on this little mini winging streak of theirs, a lot

1106
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: of people were under the impression, as was I, whether

1107
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: you agreed with it or not, that he was given

1108
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: the old winner your fire ultimatum, the old Herman Boone treatment.

1109
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't know that I feel great about the prospects

1110
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: for many dz right now.

1111
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: But as of right now, nothing decided at Miami.

1112
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: What about this Michigan Penn State game producer Jesse all

1113
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: sorts of frazzled about this, as he should be. Michigan

1114
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: goes into Penn State, they win twenty one to seventeen. So,

1115
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: Penn State, where are we at right now? They opened

1116
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: up five and zero and now they've gone one in

1117
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: four since then. Meanwhile, Michigan, you're looking at their schedule

1118
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: right now, they are a one loss team. And the

1119
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: thing that I think is, I watched this game was

1120
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: number one. It's so even the box score is crazy.

1121
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Even go look at the box score from this thing.

1122
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: And second thing I'm thinking about Michigan is Jim Harbaugh

1123
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: has to be in heaven right now.

1124
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: Because this is his kind of team.

1125
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: This is the absolute embodiment of what Jim Harbaugh wants

1126
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: in a football team. He wants hard nosed, he wants

1127
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: difference makers on defense and at running back, and he

1128
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: wants a team that feels like it's been screwed.

1129
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: And we can check every box with this Michigan team.

1130
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: They got all those personnel pieces and they feel like

1131
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: the Michigan State game was taken from them by officials,

1132
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: and they may not be wrong about it, but regardless

1133
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: of your opinion on that, that's the identity of this

1134
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: Michigan team right now. And there are a lot of

1135
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: people in Big Ten country that believe that's why this

1136
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: one has the best shot to upend the likes of

1137
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: Ohio State later in the year in a situation where

1138
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State has to come to them. And that is

1139
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: pretty sound logic.

1140
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: I follow it.

1141
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: But this was a close game yesterday, twenty one to

1142
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: seventeen in the final. I think I'm more interested, ironically

1143
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: in what the outcome means for Penn State, like where

1144
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: where are they going forward?

1145
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: Because it's just it's such a long season when you

1146
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: look at it.

1147
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: As we've talked about this a few times, it's so

1148
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: popular for fans to say, boy, the season, you wait

1149
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: for it and it goes behind the blink of a knye.

1150
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: Well, it really doesn't. These are long seasons.

1151
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: How long ago does it feel that Penn State was

1152
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: beating Wisconsin and then they beat Auburn and then they

1153
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: beat Indiana and then they well they lost to Iowa.

1154
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Clothes Like, these things feel like a year ago to me,

1155
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 2: and they are all from this season. So Michigan wins,

1156
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: and they are moving ever closer. They're keeping the themselves

1157
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: firmly in contention in that playoff picture, and they're moving

1158
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: ever closer to one of the more consequential.

1159
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: The games in a long time.

1160
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: What about Ohio State, Speaking of the other participant in

1161
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: that game, Ohio State fifty.

1162
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: Nine Perdue thirty one.

1163
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: I had surprising pushback last week. I mean, really suspicious

1164
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: was the pushback I had when I told you I

1165
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: thought this game was going to be a blowout. I

1166
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: understood why you thought there was potentially an upset brewing.

1167
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: You just watched Purdue beat Michigan State, and you had

1168
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: just watched Ohio State struggle but win against Nebraska. And

1169
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: a basic understanding of how this sport works was what

1170
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: I used, also with the model's help, to forecast a

1171
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: blowout here. We didn't even spend much time breaking down

1172
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: the game last week. That's how confident we were that

1173
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: this was going to be a blowout. In fact, I

1174
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: think I predicted the exact halftime score, which I don't

1175
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: claim to be a skill, but we did get lucky

1176
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: with that one. There was a rubber banding effect, a

1177
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: progression regression to the mean, if you will. But the

1178
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: thing about it is that factor is on steroids when

1179
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: you have an ultra talented team. I told you last

1180
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: week one of the reasons I love a blowout here

1181
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: is the progression regression factor.

1182
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: But the other was CJ. Stroud got trashed.

1183
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: I helped the amount last week publicly, so did this

1184
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: offensive line. Let me tell you what they did yesterday.

1185
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: Stroud was thirty one to thirty eight with six touchdowns.

1186
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 2: Excuse me, just five touchdowns, not quite half a dozen

1187
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: through for three to sixty one. How about the running

1188
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: game for Ohio State? How about thirty one runs two

1189
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty three yards. That's about eight point five

1190
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: per clip. Is that good enough? I think it was

1191
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: good enough.

1192
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: It was surgical, pretty surgical in their precision. Yesterday.

1193
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: They've got in Michigan State at the Horseshoe Saturday. We

1194
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: will be in attendance on the sideline for that game.

1195
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 2: First time ever. Cannot believe that's a reality. First time

1196
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: I have ever been to an Ohio State game. Some

1197
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: other games that stood out yesterday. Oklahoma State, I think

1198
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: is one of the more anonymous high level teams that

1199
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 2: we've had in the sport in several years. I dare

1200
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: you to tell me you've won more than one Oklahoma

1201
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: State game unless you're a Cowboy fan or you're a

1202
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: diehard Big twelve fan. They just haven't been on the

1203
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: national radar. I assume they love it that way. Sixty

1204
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: three to seventeen, they were one of our best bets.

1205
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Yesterday they blanked TCU.

1206
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: And it's just it's a really good team. I don't

1207
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: know what else say.

1208
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: It's a really good team right now, and they've got

1209
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: Oklahoma coming in there in a couple of weeks.

1210
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: It's a tall task. Let me put it that way.

1211
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say I don't see anything happening. It's

1212
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: a tall task to be asked of Oklahoma, given how

1213
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: much they struggled against Baylor yesterday. Notre Dame's seemingly biggest

1214
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: remaining obstacle was a road game against Virginia. They won

1215
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: twenty eight to three, and they are the proverbial shark

1216
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: fin in the playoff pool right now. They're just out

1217
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: there and they're not in the top four, but they're

1218
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: out there. And then you say it again, but they're

1219
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: not in the top four, And then for a third

1220
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: time you say, but they're out there.

1221
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: And that's all that needs to be said right now,

1222
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: with two or three weeks to go? What about Arkansas?

1223
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: I was sitting next to an Arkansas fan on the

1224
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: plane last night on the way home. About every five

1225
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: minutes it was, hey, we got an update on Arkansas.

1226
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, we both have the same WiFi,

1227
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: but you know what, let me look it up.

1228
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh, Arkansas win.

1229
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: Sixteen to thirteen, big celebration. Sam Pittman's doing a great

1230
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: job man. And it looked for all the world like

1231
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: this one was going to go sideways for them, and

1232
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: it didn't, and they pulled it out.

1233
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: These games matter.

1234
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the playoff

1235
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 2: conversation of the SEC West, but it matters so much

1236
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: you look back several years from now and this is

1237
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: not Major League baseball. It's college football, and these games

1238
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: are worth one of twelve instead of one of one

1239
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: to sixty two. These things matter so much. I don't

1240
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 2: care that it's a lame duck staff I mean that staff,

1241
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: that's lame duck. They pushed Bama to the limit the

1242
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: week before and Arkansas went into their building and got

1243
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: the win. Congratulations to Arkansas. Also, Michigan State, they make

1244
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: sure they stay emphatically in that playoff conversation and set

1245
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: up a huge showdown with Ohio State Saturday. They beat

1246
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: Maryland forty to twenty one and Oregon late game last night,

1247
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: and it was the decider for what turned out to

1248
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: be winning week again for us on the Romannudle Express

1249
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: thirty eight to twenty four. One of the biggest games

1250
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: in the country this Saturday is Oregon at Utah. We

1251
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: were forty nine percent to go to that game, but

1252
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan State.

1253
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: Barely won out on that one. There will be time.

1254
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: There will be time.

1255
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: And those are some of the other added takeaways. And

1256
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking around, and yes, there was a dust cloud yesterday.

1257
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean, there were some big games, there were some

1258
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: big teams that fell.

1259
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: I still don't think it's over.

1260
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: I still think there are some really really big upsets

1261
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: somewhere down the road. And that road you can see

1262
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: the finish line. You can see conference championship. Saturday it's

1263
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: just the air is so much thinner up here in November.

1264
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: It's so much thinner. So don't be shocked by anything. Now,

1265
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: let's look ahead to week twelve. Early best bets already

1266
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: put three of them out. If you're not following, as

1267
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: I just am about to tell you in the chat

1268
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: right now, there you go, make sure you're following on

1269
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram. These have already been released. You're winning

1270
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: or losing yesterday on Saturday determined or was determined by

1271
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: whether you got on games early enough. That's why it's

1272
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: so important to be following on those social channels. Here

1273
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: are our best bets so far this week. Notre Dame

1274
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: minus fifteen and a half. They are hosting Georgia Tech

1275
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: Virginia plus twelve and a half. They're on the road

1276
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: at pitt and Minnesota minus six and a half. They

1277
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: are on the road at Indiana again, Minnesota minus six

1278
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: and a half, Uva plus twelve and a half, and

1279
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: Notre Dame minus fifteen and a half. Look, I met

1280
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: a lot of you yesterday, some of you right there

1281
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: on the sideline, some of you in the crowd, some

1282
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: of you in the airport. Met a lot of you yesterday.

1283
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: I always say this, but I don't ever want it

1284
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: to get old. That means the world to us when

1285
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: we go on the road, because you've got to understand,

1286
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, this was a little, tiny

1287
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: independent show in Columbus, Georgia, so it is still a

1288
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: very new concept that we have a bona fide national audience.

1289
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: So it's still somewhat of a new thing.

1290
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: The novelty has not worn off of being recognized in

1291
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: major cities all across the country. So for all of

1292
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: us here, I'm the only voice you get to hear,

1293
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: but I explained the we over I last week. For

1294
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: all of us here, we say thanks to you for

1295
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: making all this possible. Looking forward to another great week

1296
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: capped with a trip to Columbus, not Georgia, but Ohio

1297
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: this Saturday. Make sure you are subscribed to the YouTube channel,

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Speaker 2: and of course make sure you're leaving us five star

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Speaker 2: reviews on the Late Kick podcast. That extra podcast on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning is going to be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I always highly highly advise you to check out late

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Speaker 2: on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Have a great start to your week for director Colin,

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Speaker 2: for producer Jesse, for our entire crew and family.

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Speaker 1: Here I'm Josh Pateon. Have a great week and compas