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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from half

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Speaker 1: stuff dot com. Hey there, everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff,

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Speaker 1: and we have a question for you. Are you ready

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Speaker 1: to rock? I'm Jonathan Strickland, I'm Lauren vocal Bomb. That

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Speaker 1: refers to something that happened off Mike during our warm ups. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to talk today about the topic of

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Speaker 1: body modification and text role in that some of the

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Speaker 1: body modification topics will be talking about do not directly

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Speaker 1: tie into a lot of tech, but it's still interesting

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Speaker 1: because it leads into the discussion of the next generation

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Speaker 1: of high tech body modification. Sure, and also you know

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Speaker 1: some of the technology that people are using on current

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Speaker 1: body modifications, even just regular old tattoos. It's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, speaking of regular old tattoos. In the

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Speaker 1: interest of full disclosure, I've got two of them, so

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Speaker 1: I can actually talk about the physical experience of receiving

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Speaker 1: a tattoo as well as the actual science and technology

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Speaker 1: that goes into producing a tattoo. I have zero tattoos

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Speaker 1: while we're while we're talking about it, but my ears

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Speaker 1: are pierced. Does that Does that help that that's body modification?

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Speaker 1: I'm actually also interest of all disclosure, debating getting into

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Speaker 1: your pierced just just one, just one, Okay, just one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's going to happen too, because I

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Speaker 1: keep thinking I might be too old for that. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about tattoos. That's a good starting point, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, your piercing is probably the lowest on the

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Speaker 1: scale because it's the most socially accepted form of body

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Speaker 1: modification in our culture. You know, it's one in in

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Speaker 1: the United States that you're piercing. Is that's that's pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty yeah, very common. So it's no one would

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Speaker 1: blink an eye really, depending upon the type of piercing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are more extreme piercings that that some

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Speaker 1: people would look at and go, wow, that's pretty extreme,

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Speaker 1: but it's still kind of on the the and yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least as far as our society is concerned. Right,

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Speaker 1: But tattoos. Tattoos are one of those things that we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of information about about how they happen. Yes, um,

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Speaker 1: and they are getting more common. According to a Harris

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Speaker 1: Pole of American adults have one UM, including thirty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of people between the ages of thirty and thirty nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I fall into that category. Yeah, you know, and I'm

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Speaker 1: actually I'm always thinking about what my next one's going

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Speaker 1: to be. By the way, there's a common saying that

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Speaker 1: tattoos are addictive. That is kind of well, it's not

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Speaker 1: physiologically true, but psychologically it is kind of true, because

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Speaker 1: after you take the plunge the first time, you think,

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Speaker 1: I kind of want more. So clearly, when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about tattoos in this podcast, we're really going to be

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Speaker 1: focusing on the way that modern tattoos happened. But it,

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Speaker 1: you know, it beholds us to talk about tattooing has

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Speaker 1: a pretty long history. Yeah. Recent documentation from the Siberian

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Speaker 1: Times reported that some of the permafrost preserved uh, like

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Speaker 1: like ice princesses and stuff like that have shown, um

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Speaker 1: from you know, fifth century BC have have shown tattoos

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Speaker 1: much like modern ones. That particular article strangely enough didn't

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Speaker 1: link out to any scholarly institutions or or reporting, so

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Speaker 1: salt yeah, but still well yeah, and then there have

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Speaker 1: been reports of you know, tattoos being found on ancient

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Speaker 1: Egyptian mummies from about two thousand BC. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: of course the word tattoo we get from a Tahitian

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Speaker 1: word which essentially means to mark, which makes sense, and

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Speaker 1: that that word started to appear in English writing right

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Speaker 1: around the time that old James Cook was exploring the

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Speaker 1: South Pacific, so about seventeen sixty nine. Now, tattoos are

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Speaker 1: all done in essentially the same way, which involves piercing

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Speaker 1: the skin and inserting the mak. But the tattoo machine

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Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds. It's a late nineteenth century and

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Speaker 1: that was a improvement by one Samuel O'Reilly on a

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Speaker 1: machine patented by Thomas Edison. Yes, Thomas Essen's machine was

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Speaker 1: not meant to tattoo. It was meant to engrave metal,

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Speaker 1: and it was meant to create stencils, and it was

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Speaker 1: and that was something that was invented right around eight

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Speaker 1: or so. But what O'Reilly said was, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a tattoo artist. He actually had been a tattoo artist

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Speaker 1: saw the electric pin by Thomas Edison and It's interesting

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Speaker 1: needle rather than a Yeah, I suppose it was a

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Speaker 1: needle to begin with, right, right, but there's a different

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Speaker 1: You would not want to touch your skin because it

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Speaker 1: to actually take a look at the patent. The patent

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Speaker 1: was issued on December eight. Because it's on the patent application,

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Speaker 1: you can actually look up patents for free online. Google

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Speaker 1: has a very good patent searching. This one comes right

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Speaker 1: up if you do a patent searching Google. Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: patent number four six for eight oh one and the

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Speaker 1: name of it is tattooing machine. Both yes, both both

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Speaker 1: that and Edison's machine. UM. The patents for them still exists.

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Speaker 1: In The illustrations are very fancy and pretty yes, and

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Speaker 1: that's I've seen some really slap dash patent tellstrations to

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Speaker 1: my day, but these are top notch. There's some there's

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Speaker 1: engineers and artists don't always combine into one person right

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Speaker 1: at anything rate. So you look at this pattern, it's

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Speaker 1: very interesting it It does have that ink reservoir and

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Speaker 1: it's got the ability to channel inc down to this needle.

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Speaker 1: The needle, by the way, is solid. It's not like

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Speaker 1: deposits the ink underneath, specifically in the dermist, because you're

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Speaker 1: going underneath the epidermis, which which sheds and cycles so

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Speaker 1: frequently that if you put it in the epidermis, it

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Speaker 1: would stick around for not very long at all, certainly

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Speaker 1: skin scale. Yeah, I mean a lot of the dust

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Speaker 1: the tattoo is permanent because it is actually staining the dermists,

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Speaker 1: is where you're actually seeing the design imprinted. And your

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Speaker 1: typical tattoo needle. According to our article on how stuff

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Speaker 1: works dot com, there's you know how tattoos work? We

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Speaker 1: actually have this article. Uh, the needle can move between

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Speaker 1: fifty and three thousand times per minute. Now that's actually

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Speaker 1: the same frequency as the electric pen that Thomas Edison created.

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Speaker 1: tattooed professional. Outlining versus shading is very different. I can

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so you've got with your basic tattoo gun,

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Speaker 1: actually putting the tattoo onto your skin. It'll be more

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Speaker 1: had a couple of tattoos and needles don't typically bother me.

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Speaker 1: But I do understand there are people who have real

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Speaker 1: psychological issues with anything that has to do with needles.

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Speaker 1: With needles to understand that. But but so so the gun.

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Speaker 1: The gun contains a circuit that runs through an electromagnet,

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Speaker 1: And the read is connected at the top um uh

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Speaker 1: those that has the really cool toy, if you want

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Speaker 1: to put it that way, the piece of technology. But

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Speaker 1: there are other things we can talk about. Obviously. The

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Speaker 1: other basic one we've already mentioned piercing. So whether it's

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Speaker 1: your ear or some other part of your body, piercing

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Speaker 1: and all of course that involves creating a whole which

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Speaker 1: jewelry will then pass through. So piercing usually means that

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Speaker 1: you're seeing the ends of a piece of jewelry, right,

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Speaker 1: whether it's like a barbell or if it's a stud

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Speaker 1: or a hoop or whatever, you're seeing the exterior part.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the part that's on display. Yes, there there's

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Speaker 1: another form of piercing. Um, what's it called pocketing? Oh yeah, pocketing,

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Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a little bit, but pocketings

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Speaker 1: pocketing is kind of they call it anti piercing, And

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Speaker 1: the reason why they call it anti piercing is that

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Speaker 1: pocketing involves creating pockets of skin. This is where I

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Speaker 1: start getting a little creepy. Crawley uh Beca said, my

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Speaker 1: my tolerance level is probably fairly normal when it comes

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Speaker 1: to body modification, normal in the sense of what the

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Speaker 1: society norms are. I don't judge anyone who's gone through

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Speaker 1: and gotten body modification, because whatever you want to do

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Speaker 1: to to assert your identity, as long as you're not

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Speaker 1: hurting anyone else, I'm totally for it. It's just that

451
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Speaker 1: if I look at it, I might go, oh, that

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Speaker 1: that looks like that must be uncomfortable. But pocketing, essentially,

453
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Speaker 1: what that means is you create these pockets in the

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Speaker 1: skin surgically, you actually cut open and create surgical pockets,

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Speaker 1: which I'm guessing at some point need to be lined

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Speaker 1: with something to keep it from being just an open wound.

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Speaker 1: But the jewelry is inserted. The ends of the jewelry

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Speaker 1: are inserted in either pockets. So think of two pockets

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Speaker 1: that are facing one another, and then the jewelry the

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Speaker 1: end of it fits in one and the other end

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Speaker 1: fits in the other, and so the the middle of

462
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Speaker 1: the jewelry is exposed as opposed to the ends. The

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Speaker 1: ends of the jelry are inside the pockets, so they're

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Speaker 1: out of you. And this can be done in lots

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Speaker 1: of ways, Like if you make really deep pockets, you

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Speaker 1: can make this kind of super cool but very creepy

467
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Speaker 1: effect of the skin being pulled apart because you're seeing

468
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Speaker 1: these like ribs of metal. I saw it in one

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Speaker 1: guy's arm where he had done the inside of his

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Speaker 1: forearm where he had these deep pockets. So you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the last I don't know, a quarter inch or

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Speaker 1: so of the jewelry was under the skin and the

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Speaker 1: rest was exposed. In the middle part was exposed. Now piercing,

474
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: of course, that that's where you just have the hole

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Speaker 1: that the metal or whatever the jewelry fits through and

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00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: the ends are on display. And that's again and not

477
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Speaker 1: at all a new thing. I know that records of

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Speaker 1: nostril piercing go back as far as four thousand years

479
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Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and that both ear and nostril

480
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: piercing are mentioned in the Bible. Yeah, these are ancient

481
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: forms of of expression identity, sometimes religion. Sometimes it's religious,

482
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's a tribal identification. I mean this is something

483
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, the way of adorning ourselves. I mean that

484
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: that's something that goes back to prehistoric times. So now

485
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Speaker 1: obviously with piercing you have several of the same concerns

486
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Speaker 1: that you do with tattooing. You're talking about creating essential,

487
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Speaker 1: creating a wound in yourself, and so you want all

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Speaker 1: the equipment and the person delivering the equipment unto you

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Speaker 1: to be um as sterile as possible, ak A tots sterile. Yeah, so, uh,

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Speaker 1: like I know there are a lot of uh piercing

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Speaker 1: like key or there used to be. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there still are, but when I remember when I

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Speaker 1: was growing up, there are a lot of the little

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Speaker 1: places in the mall like piercing. Look at the Claire's

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Speaker 1: or whatever, like a little kiosk and they would have

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Speaker 1: the little piercing gun and stuff. Totally not not a

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00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: good idea because that's that's a recipe for disaster. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know how they are sterilizing their equipment. Again,

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Speaker 1: if if if you know, if anything that's coming into

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Speaker 1: contact with you, um, if they have an auto clave

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00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: in the back and anything that's coming into contact with

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Speaker 1: you has is just being opened in front of your face.

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00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a pretty good sign. Pretty good sign.

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Speaker 1: But I would always, I mean, like every person I've

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Speaker 1: ever talked to who is in to any level of

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Speaker 1: body modification, whether it's someone who just enjoys piercings or

507
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: someone who enjoys some of the things that again that

508
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: I would I would think of as more extreme. They

509
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Speaker 1: all say, go to a go to a professional parlor,

510
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: piercing parlor, a place where that's what they do. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, there's one near my home, which is where

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Speaker 1: I would go and go on if I go into it.

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Speaker 1: But I did. I did get my ears pierced when

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Speaker 1: I was like twelve or something like that, at like

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Speaker 1: a Claire's. I'm all but and and I have never

516
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: they've never been infected. It's always been fine. But no,

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Speaker 1: it's and it's not like, yeah, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: say that if you if you have had this done,

519
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 1: that you're living on borrowed doun, which just mean that

520
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: the the you know, if you're considering this kind of stuff,

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: these are the places that are going to be traditionally, yes,

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00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: the most safe. So again again the same thing. You

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Speaker 1: ask questions when you get there. You ask them how

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Speaker 1: they how they handle their equipment, Which pieces that our

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00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: equipment are reusable versus one use only. How do they

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00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: take care of things after it's all done, you know,

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00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: And it's good to ask questions. It's whenever your safety

528
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: and health are concerned, ask questions. So, yeah, the piercing

529
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: gun is essentially a little thing that just shoots forward

530
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: and punctures whatever it's pointing at. But most piercers don't

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Speaker 1: use piercing guns. They're they're they're very imprecise because the

532
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: action of the gun can can significantly move the point

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Speaker 1: of contact. So so a needle is the preferred a

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Speaker 1: handheld needle. And that's the way most That's every piercer

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00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: I've talked to you, that's what they use. They don't

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00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, they if you ask them about piercing guns,

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Speaker 1: you might have to endure a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: lecture and earful so to speak. Hey guys, we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot more to say, but as it turns out,

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Speaker 1: it's way more we did expect it to be as

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Speaker 1: long as it ended up being. And did you know

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00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: we talk a lot. Yeah, I thought that this was

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Speaker 1: going to be pretty short, but as it turns out,

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00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: it's this is a fascinating subject. So we've got another

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00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: episode coming literally that will be the next one that

546
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: is all about body modification, focusing more on some of

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: the more outlandish and interesting kind of things beyond tattooing

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00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: and piercing. We're going into implants really, and so join

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Speaker 1: us because we're going to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: more kind of a fringe body modification stuff, that stuff

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00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: that you might end up seeing and you wonder how

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Speaker 1: the heck did that happen. We're going to explain what

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Speaker 1: the processes are and also a couple of very strange

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Speaker 1: technological wonders. Yep. Not to mention, we're also going to

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00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: tell you what you need to consider if you're ever

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Speaker 1: going to think about having something like this done, because

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Speaker 1: we want you to be safe, guys. So in the meantime,

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