WEBVTT - Featuring Molly Jackson 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.560 Hello guys, and welcome back to this week's episode of 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.160 the Let's Be Real Podcast. This week, I got to 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.000 sit down with my good friend, actually, Molly Jackson. Now 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.320 you may know her as an actress or as an activist, 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.279 but she is one of the sweetest humans and I 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.119 am so honored that I get to call her my friend. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.479 I'm very grateful for her. We talked about literally everything. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.520 This episode is basically a steak peek into what our 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:30.040 friendship is like, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Molly, 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.879 I'm so excited to hear my podcast. This is so 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.000 exciting because we've been talking about this for a minute. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.240 We have For those who don't know, I want to 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.720 give a list set of how we met because I 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.360 think it's really funny and I kind of unexpected that 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.960 we became friends. Absolutely. Well. We met in the middle 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.880 of a pandemic, too, which is always on Instagram Live. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.080 So it was during the election. You're both trying to 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.800 get the word out, get the vote, get people to 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.720 register from the vote, all the way. Yeah, and so 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.200 we didn't Instagram live and I remember it was like, man, 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.880 this girl we did how long? It like thirty minutes? 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.080 Like a thirty minute. Well. It was funny about it too, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.040 was you were supposed to be interviewing me then and 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.240 then they flipped it last minute, so I interviewed you 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.160 jury I've never interviewed anyone before. It was so weird 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.520 for me too, because I was like, so do I 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.600 just answer? You did a great job, by the way, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.360 thank you. But I we just talked to us, like 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.039 why though it wasn't about like anything personal was take 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:20.480 it the about. I was like, we have a lot 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.840 in common, like we just clicked, if you will know, 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.040 even like our pacing and our tones and like a 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.360 kind of like sense of humor. It, Yeah, it was 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.360 really fun. And then so we didn't you followed each 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.679 other on social media. And then I went out to 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.319 California and I think it was February, and I did 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.160 this big trip, first time flying by myself. Stayed here 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.200 for a month supposed to be five days, and it 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.160 was a big chip in where I just accomplished a lot. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.120 I got over a bunch of my anxiety and I, 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.600 dam do. I was like, you know, let me reach 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.120 out to her. And then we got coffee and then 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.680 we realized we were literally the same person. Yes, No, 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.080 we had I mean even like our dad's share a 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.520 name and our moms have the same like area depression. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.920 It was very weird. No, I mean we had very 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.160 like similar life parallels with our anxiety and like our 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.240 careers and like school and just kind of everything. And 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.360 then I just remember being like, man, this is a 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.000 girl that I want to stay friends with. I'm so 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.880 glad that you're on the podcast because now everyone get 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.520 to know more about you, you know, the incredible Molly 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.400 that you are. Well, I mean, I I've loved getting 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.120 to know you. And then I mean we reconnected all 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.920 we got really close. I think when I went to 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.640 New York. Yeah, yeah, then um, and now I'm officially 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.480 out in California and I know you moved. Welcome. You're 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.600 an official Callie girl. I think I've always been one 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.160 at heart. I think I think you've always been a 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.080 New York girl. Yes, and someday I'll make that move. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.840 We're just gonna switch places. It's gonna we're gonna end 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.000 up in New York. I just know it. Hopefully, I'm 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:48.960 hoping next summer. Well, we'll see, we'll see that. I 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.400 want to be here for the first year year here 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.200 because you have to experience all the California stuff, but 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.880 the beach would do all the fun stuff. Um. We've 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.200 talked a lot about your career and stuff, just as 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.359 in itself. But I'm curious, do you remember when you 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:06.080 first started acting? I do, yeah, I UM. I was 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.040 four years old and my parents were looking for like 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.960 summer camps for me, and the only one I showed 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.160 any interest in was a theater camp. And they called 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.640 and they were like, no, you have to be five, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.160 Like the kid has to be five. So for the 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.760 difference of four to five and huge dramatic um. So 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.200 I waited like an entire year, I guess according to 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.840 my parents, I didn't bring it up once and then 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.560 like on my fifth birthday, I was like, okay, so 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.520 I can go to the acting camp now, and they 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.639 were like wow, like she still remembers that. So they 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.840 signed me up, and quite like significantly, I the very 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.080 first day, I just jumped out of the car and 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.800 I walked inside. And up until that point I had 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.000 debilitating separation anxiety from my mom. So for the fact 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.000 that for something was the very first time I ever 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.120 walked away from my mom ever, and from that moment 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.920 my parents were like, Okay, she has to do this 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.080 for the rest of her life. So yeah. So after 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.080 that first camp, the first play was we did No 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.480 White and the Seven Little Piggies. So I was like 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.520 a little pig. I was the littlest pig of them all, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:06.880 and I had like pink paint on my nose and 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.240 it was so much fun. And then I literally just 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.400 went from summer camp to summer camp to summer camp. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.640 Like I did not stop doing plays at this theater 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.159 for two and a half years. Did you do anything 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.159 during the school year or was it just like, yes, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.680 I did stuff doing during the school year, they had 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.600 a little like weekend programs or a little like weekend uh, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.719 I don't know, like just training and stuff like that. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.240 And then over winter break we had like our winter play, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.320 and then the spring there was like a medley and 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.640 I was definitely the youngest one. They're the smallest one. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.520 There was itty bitty as a kid. Um. But I 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.120 mean just the moment, I've just felt the presence of 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.039 this little theater. It's called Kids and Co and Alpaso, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.880 Texas shout out to them. They're wonderful. Um. Yeah, I 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.080 just felt like home and I felt safe, and I 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.040 felt like I could be myself, and my anxiety literally 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.120 was left at the door every time. Man, that's crazy, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.040 especially like I know what you're talking about. When I 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.200 do these conversations. It's one of the times where like 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.960 anxiety is in there. If you're an anxious person, you know, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.920 he finds something you love that doesn't make you anxious. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.240 That is so huge. No, you know that then you 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.200 have to be doing that thing if you're stupid to 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.200 walk away from it because it's so rare. Yeah, well, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.960 I mean during that exact same period that I was 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.240 at this children's theater, I would go to school on 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.600 you know, off days, and I would cry and cry 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.200 the entire school day until mom picked me up. So 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.839 I knew it was specifically that it was literally we 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.120 have these know when the teachers would really reassure my 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.200 mom like, oh, she'll stop crying in like ten minutes. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.800 By the time she picked me up, I was still sobbing. Yeah, 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.320 that was me. I used to have my mom, so 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.800 I us have really best separation anxiety from my mom too. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.280 That's other peril um. And I used to make her 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.800 walk up the stairs with me into the classroom like 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.200 I couldn't walk up the stairs with everybody by myself. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:47.920 Oh my gosh. Yeah, my mom had to park in 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.560 the parking lot instead of just like the little like 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.799 loopy do drop off, she had to like park walk 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.239 me in. Just crazy. I look back and it feels 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.480 like a different person. But I'm proud of her. And 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.440 then I was about seven and a half when manager 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.839 came to the theater and was like, oh, like me 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.680 and one other kid, like, I'm gonna bring him out 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.719 to l A and let's see how this goes. Um 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.599 So I kind of did like a boot camp there 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.960 and I met an agent and I got some headshots 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:16.440 and I was seven, just having the time of my life. Tea. Yeah, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.159 and I think, exactly, I'll Passo Texas, like right in 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.880 the little tip there, big military town, because my family 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.599 is also a military family. Um, So we were out 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.080 there in Los Angeles. My parents were pretty worried about 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.680 how that transition would be from my little theater to 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.599 said they thought maybe it was just the theater that 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.240 like didn't cause me anxiety, and then being on set 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.480 the same thing happened. I just didn't. I mean I 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.440 had to legally then have my mom on set with me, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.080 you know, child laws, but I don't think I checked 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.279 in with her like once throughout the day, I was 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:48.680 just having I would just have the time. It was 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.839 my favorite. It's still my favorite place in the world 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.760 is being on set or acting in any cuacity. Something 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.640 people don't realize that, like being on set. It's not 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.080 as glamorous as people. It's just a lot of hurry 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.800 up and wait. It is and first reason, like I 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.960 still love that, Like I get tempted to read, and 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.919 like I love talking to people and like just learning 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.320 people's stories, like I can always be instead of I mean, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.720 I feel like a lot of actors like eat their 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.520 lunch and like their trailers and stuff like that, and 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.320 I don't know the lat I don't know when I've 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.600 ever done that. I think I can remember one time 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.000 when I was kind of sick on set and they 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.160 needed to keep me isolated. But like I'm always like 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.600 with everybody else eating, Like I just it's every moment 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.960 of It's not glamorous, but I love it every moment. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.840 It's just there's so much to learn and so much 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.280 like stimulations, you know. I so when I was working 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.120 with Radio Disney R I p Radio Disney. Um, I 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.880 did a bunch of like backstage with these Disney shows, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.520 and I really experienced for the first time, like what 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.840 set life was, and it has nothing that I expected. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:49.920 Like what people don't realize doing one scene can take hours? Yes, yeah, hours? 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.160 What was the longest it took you to finish one scene? 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.400 Funny enough, Um, this is like kind of one of 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.400 my favorite stories. But funny enough, the longest scene I 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.640 ever had to shoot was like a kiss scene. Um, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.920 this is Andy Mack with Josh rush Um. So this 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.560 was our We had a kiss twice in the show, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.920 which is kind of unusual for Disney. Um. But so 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.640 this was the second time we were kissing in the show, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.960 and we did probably I think like we had both 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.320 been keeping count. I think we ended up doing like 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.880 thirty four takes of it. There was no reason we 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.680 needed thirty four takes of a kiss scene. And we 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.960 were both like fifteen, and we were auntsy and we 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.800 were starting to get like, oh gosh, this is just 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.920 getting worse and worse and worse. It's something that we 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.240 can like we always bring it up when we're together, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.320 which is like it's a great memory to laugh about. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.959 But yeah, I mean I think we probably shot that 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.920 scene for like six hours, like we took lunch and 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.120 went back to it. It was the longest scene of 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.640 my life. And my parents were on side with who 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.720 my nana took me. So my nana's there like with 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.080 her book, like just watching me, like kiss this boy 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.320 over and over and over and over again. And was 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.880 this like your first kiss? So the first time we 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.560 kissed on the show, Yes, it was my first kiss. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.240 So I had my first kiss on Disney Channel when 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.080 I was fifteen, which is iconic, but also when I 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.440 was Yes, now, I think it's amazing and I'm glad 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.200 that happened because like what a story. But at the 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.200 time and I was fifteen, Oh, I was so upset. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.920 I was like I wanted my first kiss like a 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.880 school dance, like, but no, Josh and I mean we 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.920 we were really close and we were good friends before 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.760 we did it on set. It's also like a Disney kiss, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.520 it's like a it's just a pack and it was 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.679 really fun. But the first time that we kissed in 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.160 an episode of both his dad and my mom were 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.760 like there with their iPhones, like recording it in our faces. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.440 So we had like the camera and it was like 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.240 fifty adults just as two kids, hormonal fifteen year old 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.760 and your parents are filming. Y, so my parents like 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.480 have it on video because they're like, the first one 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.000 is not going to make the cut of the episode, 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.400 so like we'll have it. That is okay. Yeah, Like 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.680 those are the things people don't realize. Yeah, it's so 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.199 I mean, I think I get a lot of um. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:51.599 I mean, I have a lot of friends outside of 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.080 the industry too. I think, like you know, just my 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.160 military friends and stuff like that. Um, and it's always 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.320 like a lot of concern that I missed out on things. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.000 And I'm like, but I don't ever feel that way 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.040 because I got so many other weird experiences like that 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.960 that are cool and like unique and also you love Yes, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.760 I absolutely love it. I will say you are one 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.880 of the few people where you love every process of it. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.559 When you tat when I'm texting, You're like, I'm doing 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.720 a self tape. I'm so excited. I'm like, yes, girl. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.679 Like people don't realize when you're an actor, your main 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.160 job is auditioning. That is a full time job in itself, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:24.880 and I want to talk about that for a second, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.000 because that isn't talked about. And I think you've heard 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.720 me about this to you, like in our friendship. But 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.520 so I'm glad you bring you brought this up. Um, No, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.640 auditioning is your main job. That is the job. When 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.200 I get a self tape, I'm like, Okay, this is 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.200 my job. Like booking, it's just the extra perk, and 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.840 that means you get to continue with the character. You know, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.600 everyone has their own process. It baffles me when other 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.880 actors like complain about self tapes. I'm like, what do 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.720 you mean, Like, how are you not loving this? Like 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.440 this is a new character and you need to work 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.640 on it and put it on camera and like people 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.960 are gonna watch and laugh or cry. Like every audition 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.080 is a performance in itself. And that's why I just 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.959 I love class. I love auditions. Like I was texting 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.840 you last night. It was in a six hour acting class. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.559 How long is this class going for? It's my Thursday 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.079 night class and it's just a group of actors who 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.040 just absolutely love every step of the process as well. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.880 I'm the youngest one in the class. Um, and it's 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.800 only supposed to be four hours, but we usually go 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.320 till midnight. Man, It's like I always call it like 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.920 my second therapy every week, because like I have therapy 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.720 and then this is my other thing. Would you say 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.880 being an actor, because you're going into different mindsets in 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.600 different perspectives, help you with just putting your anxiety into 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.160 perspective sometimes or do you keep those separate? I I 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.120 do tend to keep those separate, and I hope somebody 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.200 I don't have to, but I think that, like right now, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.280 I'm still working through my anxiety at like a high 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.120 enough level that I'm not quite ready to like merge 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.040 the two. So I do have to keep this pretty separate, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.280 which I'm excited for that day I don't have to 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.079 because then I can kind of merge that disc like 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.640 get rid of the disconnect there. But what does help 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.959 me with characters? It's I'm also like a psych major 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.760 in school, so I think like kind of all three though, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.079 like my anxiety, psych major, and then acting, they all 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.920 come together. They really do. Yeah, they make they help 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.400 with my empathy and just like my interactions with other people, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.480 And how do you balance school and your career Because 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.280 I know something that I've struggled with and it's a challenge. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.880 It really is it is? Yeah, I mean I don't 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.439 know that. For the last couple of years of school, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.680 I was nearly as busy as you were with school. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.560 Like I don't even I don't know how you do it, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:20.640 Like I talked to you about it, and I'm like, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.440 something's not making sense, Like when did you sleep? I 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.520 don't know how I did it either. That's a question 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.640 that I need to ask myself to That was just 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.680 subconsciously I went through. And now you're going to be 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.840 a full time college student doing it as well a 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.520 new challenge. Wow, you baffle us all. But I'm not 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.200 on set for hours and hours and hours like acting 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.960 is a full like time Yeah, it's definitely the only 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.679 thing with acting though two is like you definitely have 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.079 like your breaks though, So I think that like the 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.400 main thing is finding a school that will work with 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.920 you on that. So that like maybe if you're working 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.320 for a month straight and you're working twelve hour days 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.839 every day for a month, um, you're not gonna have 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.400 any time for school. Then if you still want to 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.960 sleep and have like somewhat of a social life, which 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.120 that unfortunately is probably the thing that takes the biggest 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.679 back burner for me is like my social life when 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.760 I'm working. Um, but I've had schools that will be 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.559 like Okay, like this month you won't do any school, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.560 but next month you gotta double up. So it's like 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.240 kind of I've been very lucky with my teachers and 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.320 like my principles and stuff who have worked with me 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.400 on more making it like a year round school. I 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.920 think it's one of the things like being a child actor, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.920 especially you probably you do school on set too, Yeah, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.840 you do school with the people you're working with. Yeah, well, 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.040 I think that that's an interesting about that school though, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.680 is for me personally, when I was doing set on school, 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.960 which is technically you need three hours a day and 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.960 you need like a certain number of breaks. But the 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.880 only issue is is that like they would be like, okay, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.320 we have ten minutes like go to some school and 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.240 then clock like that, it takes me five minutes to 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.200 log into my online school program. So unfortunately I never 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.160 got to the place where I could figure out how 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.480 to really get that much school done. So for me, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.360 more so, it was being on set, maybe doing a 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.080 little bit here and there, um, and then coming home 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.160 and just doing school for five hours straight and then 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.080 going to bed. So that was like very I think 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.080 from like thirteen to fifteen, that was like I was 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.400 busiest with work then and that was probably like the 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.720 most tactic time when you and Mac. Yeah, that's when 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.280 I was on Andy Mack and Game Shakers, Nikki, Ricky, Dickie, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.720 and Don so I was kind of like rotating guest 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.920 stars on all those shows. Um So, yeah, so it 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.120 was pretty and then with auditions and stuff like that 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.280 as well. Um So that was a very like stressful 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.400 time where I really don't remember having too many friendships. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.720 Like I said, like unfortunately these between school and work 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.280 and then you do want to have somewhat of a 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.720 social life, but then you also have responsibilities like interviews 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.680 and press and events and stuff like that. So it 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:46.600 was definitely kind of it was overwhelming. And now I'm 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.600 figuring out what I want to do with college, and 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.240 I just don't want to go back to that place 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.160 because that was a very stressful place. One of the 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.280 good things though, from being on Disney is that you're 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.840 with people your own age. It's not like you were 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.600 just with much younger people all the time or months 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.840 least you had at least you were able to socialize 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.800 with people your age. Absolutely, no, I got to socialize 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.280 with because that's kind of where you did get like 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.480 your friend time on set in those shows. It was 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.320 so like compounded though. I think it was really fun 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.120 because Anti Max shot in Utah, so I would like 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.400 be in l A and then I'd fly out to 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.080 shoot an episode or two in Utah and that come 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.560 back and you know, back and forth where like the 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.920 series regulars on that show were there in Utah for 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.640 the entire year. It was fun. It was like sweethell, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.320 Like they got so excited when like the guest starts 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.880 would come out or whatever, because I mean I I 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.720 thought of them in their situation. There's just four of 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.280 them together NonStop for a year. So like it was 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:33.920 kind of fun coming because then you kind of felt 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.080 like the superstar on Sex because everyone was so excited. 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.440 How blood to talk to exactly? Just so I can 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.080 get a better sense, let's use Andy Mac as an example. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.440 How long did it take to film an episode? What 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.880 were your hours? Like? Well, I mean Anti Max a 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.560 really unique example of a Disney show. Granite, like more 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.880 Disney Plus shows now we're doing what Andy Mac did. Um, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.600 but Anti Mac was like a single camp, so it 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.360 wasn't multi cam like the other shows Disney Nick. Yeah, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.160 so single cam, so it took a little bit longer, um, 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.920 a lot more like discipline. Like that's why it was 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.720 more grounded performance, um because single cam doesn't want big 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.520 animated performance like a multi cam does. Um. But no, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.320 I mean pretty much like call time is usually around 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.640 like six am every day, so like getting up, you'd 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.360 take like the bus would pick you up to set, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.120 like you'd get in the van, you'd go to set. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.360 Um you were there, like going to set doing school, 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.360 going to set doing school, kind of back and forth, 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.080 and then lunch was about an hour. Um, they had 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.800 great food on the set of Andy Maack too. That 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.080 was like amazing craft services. I will always remember, um 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.560 then know so, I mean then we'd have lunch and 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.640 then we go back to set and then kind of 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.360 depending on like when you got called and stuff, you'd 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.240 wrap and people were also coming and going because some 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:40.920 people just had like a scene for two hours of 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.720 the day and then they'd leave. And then afterwards, I 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.200 mean we usually like went out and did something too 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.160 after a set, which was super fun because that was 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.200 like our social life. So we'd go to get dinner, 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.840 go bowling, or go roller skating, and yeah, so it 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.120 was really fun. I want to go roller skating. That 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.520 sounds so much fun. There's a really good rink in 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.240 Glendale here and we go. Absolutely, it's super fun, very 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.680 affordable too. I used to love what was it, um rollerblading? 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.440 Oh my gosh, I yes, I My sister and I 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.639 were obsessed from eight. I was like, there, my rollerblades 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.720 were grand purple. Mine were purple. Another parallel. Look at that. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.000 It's so odd how much we have in common. I know, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.359 we've talked about this. It's really weird when you like 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.960 think about it. It is, no, it is weird. It's 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.280 like and also like living on kind of two different 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.680 coasts and wanting to live where each other are. Kind 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.240 of like we should have done like a parent trap 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.240 or something like that. I think I could have worked. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.360 I think it could have just I would have dyed 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.400 my hair more. Well, you were brunettes, so I was brunette. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.960 Where you go bond you could pull up blonde. Maybe 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.280 I don't. I don't know. I feel like I get 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.080 a little too like dark in the summer. Or maybe 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.000 bond wouldn't have worked. You could. Maybe I've never ever 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.080 varied from my hair color. Would you ever for work? Yes? 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.560 I don't think not for works? So like a job 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.640 is like shave your head. Absolutely, I want to shave 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.240 my head at one point in my life. Joey King said, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.320 I think every woven should shave their head at least 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.639 once once in their life. She shaved her head, like 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.119 what three times for work? It like nobody's business. She 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.680 is my favorite. She is my favorite, like my favorite 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.160 career example. Like I think she's such like a well 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.080 rounded person, Like I love her social media, like everything 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.400 she does she just does it right. And I want 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.960 to live exactly like she does want us. Then I 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.520 remember that movie, Yes, that was one of my favorite movies. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.080 I couldn't watch the scene that when she ran away. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.040 That just made me too sad. Oh yeah, that was 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.879 really stumble. I thought I was funny enough, so with 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.400 such separation anxiety, you think I wouldn't, But that seem 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.760 like inspired me to be dramatic and runaway. When I 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.840 was ten, You ran away, but I ran away to 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.320 my garage. We had a detached garage, and I packed 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:48.920 up my stuff and dramatically stormed the fat yard I didn't. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.120 Once I was I'm leaving, and I just packed my 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:53.879 bad and I went down the hallway and then I 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.200 went back into that department because I missed my mom. Yeah, well, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.840 because it's so sad. I wish I was rebellious some time. No, 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.360 I know, same here and it will. Even in the garage, 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.359 I was just sobbing because of how much I missed 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:06.800 my mom, and like she came and got me and 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.600 she's like, I know you're crying about me, and I'm like, yeah, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.639 like I want to come back in. Sometimes I just 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.120 wish I could just like not care and I could 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.359 just like wouldn't that just be free and just like 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.600 not because it's not just like just not that like 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.400 we care. It's not just like caring what people think 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.920 about us. It's it's caring about what's gonna Like it's 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.560 your rational fears, like what's going to happen to the 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.840 people around us, what's gonna happen to us? Like, yeah, 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.520 like did I mess with the fabric of the universe 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:32.920 and something bad is going to happen. It's just like 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.919 all these very we can like rationally know they're irrational, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.320 but at the same time they just keep us from 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.879 doing things exactly. Okay, Molly, we have to take a 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.680 quick break, but when we come back, I want to 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.360 talk more about acting, specifically the audition process, your activism, 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:59.320 and so much more. We'll be right back, and we're 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.000 back some of the things that I've been trying to 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.800 not let's stop me. But something that's been like really 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.760 hard that I've noticed is just like rejection. And your 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.560 job is a big part of it is rejection. What's 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.120 your general reacho of like how many self tapes per 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.199 job do you get? Um? That's so funny too that 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.280 now it's like called self tapes per job because he 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.240 used just be like in first auditions. It's just like 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:23.639 I had a moment of realizing. I was like, oh 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.600 my god, it's not in person anymore. That's so sad. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.000 Um you miss in person, yeah, big time. Wouldn't the 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.360 people though? Yeah, But it's those nerves that I think 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.520 like making good though, you know, because you can turn 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.520 that nervousness into the excitement and like the hyper focus 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.600 of it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't I miss 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.960 in person because I like interacting with people too, versus 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.680 just like being pent up in shooting your room yeah, 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.760 in my garage with my mom, and I'm like, this 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.840 is how many auditions would you say you do per year? Um? 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.000 Because there are some weeks that you're like per day, 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.520 You're just knocking them out. Yeah. I mean it's been 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.720 a fluctuating like balance kind of throughout my life. It's 0:20:58.119 --> 0:20:59.640 it's kind of hard for me to ballpark it because 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.080 I've been doing it now for like professionally twelve years. 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.520 Twelve or thirteen years was just pandemic. Let's just go pandemic, uh, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.359 because it's been harder to book. Yeah, I mean, okay, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.000 it's like the beginning of the pandemic nothing because everything 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.480 shut down. And then I'd say since October when things 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.399 were starting to open up. Um, I've maybe had like 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.160 thirty to forty, which is pretty low compared to business, 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.320 compared to my peers, I think because I had been 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.920 between representation as well, so I'm trying to like find 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.240 my happy balance with that. Um. Yeah, i'd say about 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.399 thirty and from those, I've booked three, so that's a 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.919 really good ratio and I'm super duper grateful for that. 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.119 I mean, I kind of went through the balance of 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.080 when I was really young, I would book maybe like 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.720 one out of twenty, which was pretty like unheard of. 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:46.160 And I think it was only because I could play 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.200 so young. I was like seven, but I was playing 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.560 four years old, so like what what actual four year 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.480 old can read? So that was like that's how little 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.000 I was. As I got older, it like went less 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.960 and less, which also like took a huge hit on 0:21:58.119 --> 0:21:59.840 like and that's also when I was going through puberty 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.560 and so so you know, that takes another hit on 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.480 the ego and like self confidence is having a lesson. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:08.000 But that's natural, Like more people enter the industry every year, 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.359 so you have more competition as you go along. Yeah, 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.680 and I know a lot of your peers also, you 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.800 compete with two auditions, So how do you like find 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:18.600 a balance where you don't think of them as your 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.399 competition your friends with them, but also no, it is 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.000 a competition at the same time. Yeah, I mean I 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.560 had a really like weird realization I think right before 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.080 the pandemic of just kind of putting it into perspective 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:32.800 because I think that I did get caught up in 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.080 the competition of it, because of course there are it's 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.080 some people who egg on the competition of it as well. 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.600 Which is unfortunate. Um I, Well, one thing you have 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.720 to like kind of settle with is if the job's 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:46.520 meant for you, it's meant for you. And at the 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.119 end of the day too, it's the writer's baby and 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.840 it's the writer's project. And also you want them to 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.720 have the best persons. So one thing that I started 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.040 to do, which is unusual, and people have told me 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.280 that's unusual. I do this, and my team won't like 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.720 hearing this. But when I get an audition, if I 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:04.119 I send it out to all my friends who I 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.560 think are right for it, so I will share with 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.919 them because I just for me for some reason, that helps. 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.000 That helped me big time feel like it just it 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.760 completely acts out any competition because I'm like, okay, well, 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.600 like I'm sharing the information and then that way it's 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.239 completely like everyone has a chance at it. So then 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:20.960 if I get it, then I know I was the 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.080 best for it. I won't lie like I was super 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.479 competitive about it before, like it was almost when I 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.640 was younger, Like I almost had a hard time being 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.840 friends with girls who were my direct competition because it 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.359 felt toxic and there was so much jealousy involved, and 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.960 of course there's still jealousy involved, Like, of course there's things. 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.880 So I'm like, I really wanted that, and like now 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:39.560 my friends getting to shoot in New York for a 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:41.840 month with it, you know what I mean. But at 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.400 the end of the day, it's like, if you stick 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.680 with it, it will come around for you eventually. Yeah. 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.000 I saw this master class with Bryan Cranston and he 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.399 was like, I every time I go into audition, to 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:55.520 make sure I don't get jealous or compare myself, I 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:59.439 just go, this wasn't on this audition. It's not mine, like, 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.000 it's not I role. It's yeah, I've just got to 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.680 do the best performance I can do, and whatever happens happens. 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.080 It's just not mine to be upset about. I love 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.199 that because it isn't yours. It's the writers and the 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.480 directors and the team behind it. Like you're all you're 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.119 doing is portraying it. And I think that, Yeah, as 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.119 soon as I had that realization that it didn't belong 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.480 to me, it never belongs to even I think even 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.200 after you look at it doesn't belong to you because 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.520 then it belongs to the audience who's getting to enjoy it. 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.440 So I think as soon as you kind of let 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.720 go of the ownership and the possessiveness, there's really no 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.679 reason to feel like you're in competition with anybody. And 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.040 I know it's hard because unfortunately we are living in 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.400 a place where everything is so dictated by how many 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.040 followers you have, which can be really frustrating, especially when 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.680 it's not necessarily always about the art and the chapter, 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.399 how many years you're putting the work into do it. 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.879 So how do you deal with that? Just like maintaining 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.520 your sanity and mental heal because again you're ninety like me, 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.640 social media can be pretty shitty being our age comparsolutely, 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.280 but also thinking me as a business, like how do 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.439 you compartmentalize it? Because I go back and forth on 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.280 my opinions on it every day, like you can ask 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.320 my mom. I think one day I'm like I really 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.119 like social media, like I need to embrace it, like 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.040 I need to like work it better, And then the 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:10.840 very next day, I'm like, I hate it. I want 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.080 them all gone, like you didn go trumble, Like I'm 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.399 just it's so night or day for me when yeah, 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.040 I've done that. So I go back and forth at that. 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.080 I mean, I'll always remember my very first role that 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.600 I didn't get based on followers. I was twelve years old, 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:25.919 and that was the first time I was realizing that, 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.480 like the industry was changing in that direction, and like 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.760 I'll always remember that. Yeah, it was kind of it 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.280 was a crazy realization where I was like I felt, 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:36.359 you know, I did a good audition and that didn't matter. 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:40.000 That's such a helpless feeling. Yeah, it felt hopeless. That 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.600 was really hard to come to terms with. And then 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.359 I think to compensate for that, I went like crazy 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:47.800 for a while, wanting to be like, Okay, well I'm 0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:49.359 gonna build my following and like I'm going to do 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.200 influencery things, and like I started like a YouTube channel 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.200 and I was like hanging out with the influencer crowd, 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.600 and I think that that was something that I was like, Okay, well, 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.040 this is going to fix it. And then I realized, well, 0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.119 like I'm living everything just to share it on social media, 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.240 and like then that's not fulfilling life wise. I might 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:06.600 think that's going to help my career, but that's not 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.120 fulfilling life wise at all. So I definitely like pulled 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:10.960 back from all of that, and I mean, now it's 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.199 more just that day to day thing, Like right now 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.000 I'm posting on my social media more than I have 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.440 in the past year because I think I like I 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.000 was like, okay, like I'm gonna try again, Like I'm 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.280 gonna put in the effort, but then I have those 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.800 day to day breakdowns, So who knows. I mean, you're 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.480 also posting a lot of informative stuff yea, yeah, I 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.840 try to. Yeah, And it's really important And something that 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.720 I just respect about you so much is that with 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:36.480 your platform, you're using it to educate people and to 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:41.720 get people involved in activism, which is so important. What 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.920 made you get into activism in the first place. Was 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.600 there a certain issue or was it just something that 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.000 kind of came up naturally? My mom has always been 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.520 like super duper active, um and just socially aware and 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.200 like she allowed to watch the news from a young 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.040 age and UM, so I've always had that encouragement for 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.000 my parents. And then funny enough, I was actually listening 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.800 to um an interview or a speech by Miley Cyrus 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.960 and she had like this one quote that stood out 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.480 to me that was like having a platform and not 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.520 using it as the biggest crime that like we could 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.439 commit in the modern day, and I just like that. 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.159 I sat with that and I was like, wow, Like 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.960 I have a platform, Like I have a couple hundred 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:17.840 thousand followers, Like it might not be as much as 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.000 the people I know with millions, but I can still 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.160 do something. And I have this and people will listen 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.439 to me, like they're buying the clothes I'm wearing and stuff, 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.119 So why can't they, you know, make the calls to 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.800 the governors that like could be more impactful. And I 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.399 think I just kind of put two and two together. 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.040 So I started kind of posting when I was like 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.119 volunteering at dog shelters or if I was doing like 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.080 a beach clean up, and I started posting like when 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.440 I was being active, and like then I was attaching 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.480 links to like how other people could get involved. And 0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.000 then eventually, I mean, I just like organizations started reaching 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.280 out to collaborate or to work together. And then I 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:55.840 got really invested when I flew up to Sacramento, the 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.120 California state capital, for the first time, and uh, I 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.040 lobbied with are Assembly members and then I spoke at 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:06.840 an Assembly hearing for women's rights to abortion access, and 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:13.240 so yeah, it was I didn't know that. Yeah, I 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.800 mean I haven't done it in a while because of 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.560 the pandemic, so I was doing it early. Um, and 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.000 I think that moment it was probably the most emotional 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.240 twenty four hours of my life, because, um, you had 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.600 to hear the opposing side and their argument to it, 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.280 and I just felt like it was I think women's 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.200 rights were the first thing that I was super passionate 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.560 about because I in that moment, I was like, how like, 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.400 people just really don't care what happens to me. They 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.120 care about this idea of like cells growing inside of 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:42.920 my body right now more than anything else. And that 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:44.880 just kind of I don't know, that struck me. That 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.560 made me very sad, and I was like, I want 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.680 to advocate for this. And then that kind of fed into, um, 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.560 a lot of different paths. I mean, environmentalism, like and 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.920 my whole family's vegan, so, um, we're focused on that. 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.920 And then back in twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic, 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.479 my sister's school had a school shooting, and then we 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.120 became very focused on going control in our family. And 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.520 then military yes, I mean military family, which was a 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.160 huge contrast. And um, when I was younger, too, like 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.040 we always had guns in the house, like that was 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.840 very normal. There was nothing unusual about that. And I 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.640 think we all kind of came to the realization like wow, 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.440 like that's not that's not necessary, and like, look at 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.840 the pain that's causing the people in our community and 0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.520 my sister. That's been an interesting contrast too, is we 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.960 have so many military friends and our closest family friends 0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.880 and family are military personnel, and so we have great 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.720 respect for them. And I idolized my dad. My dad 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.600 was in the army for twenty seven years. So that 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.200 is a contrast which is interesting. And I think seeing 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:48.200 him balance that has been helpful. So like he he's 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.880 like very liberal and active as well, but he's military, 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.000 and I think how he balances that is very graceful. 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.000 And I look up to that. We're in a place 0:29:55.040 --> 0:30:01.120 where everything is so divided. Our country is divided on everything, 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.840 and I think if we can all just hear each 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.920 other out. I think if you hear both perspectives and 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.320 actually listen, it's not about talking about listening, That's how 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.240 we make the biggest change. All Right, Molly, we have 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.240 to take one more quick break, but when we come back, 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.160 I'm going to talk more about your activism and dive 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.600 into that. I also want to talk about dating and 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:32.160 cancel culture. We'll be right back. I remember when you 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.560 were in New York. It was I think this Memorial 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:39.600 Day's Memorial Day, and you went an hour outside the city, 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:44.040 tire yourself transportation to go to a cemetery to pay 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.960 respects for those who gave their lives. And I remember 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.800 I commented, I was like, this is incredible, Like this 0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.480 is so important that you're just acknowledging it. I remember 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.080 you telling me that you lost like a thousand followers 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.760 for that. Yeah, no, I did, and I had, um 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.000 not everything has to be political, and I feel like no, 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.880 and they, um, that was my thing because I am 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.320 a military kid. I have great respect for the military 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.280 and my dad and I I mean they people, so 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.960 many people died for us and are I mean, everything 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.120 we do, just the way we protest would not be 0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.560 safe in another country, even which is which is crazy. 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.160 And I don't think we realized that enough like the 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.000 positives of what the military has done. So I wanted 0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.200 to go pay my respects and I thought that that 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:34.880 was important. Um, and I had some friends even texting 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.520 me who are who I've worked with on other campaigns, 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.600 and they're like, that was really disappointing, like seeing you 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.800 supporting the military, and I like that. I didn't have 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.320 to be a political thing though at all. That's just 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.400 paying respects for like our fallen like I remember very 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.360 I think a couple of Fourth of July is ago. 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.640 Um I had seen some people online like burning the 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.080 flag for Fourth of July, which really made me really 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.720 upset and worked up about it. And I talked to 0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.320 my dad about it and he made he was not 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.560 upset at all about it, which surprised me. I thought 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.200 he would be, like he's Mr. Military, and he brought 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:07.800 up a really good point. He's like, well, he's like 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.880 you know, he's like even he's like, there's He's like, 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.600 most of the country is still like you could face 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.760 years in prison for that and the death Penalty's like, 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.760 but that's part of what we fight for. He's like, 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.520 we did laid on our lives even for the right 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.360 to burn the flag. He's like, and that's sad, He's like, 0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:20.600 but that's part of it. He's like, when I see 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:22.640 people burning the flag, I'm like, oh, well, they're exercising 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.800 the right, And I was like, that's so like a 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.240 casual like that was so it's so not attached that 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.480 he looks at that as some freedom, which exactly which 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.840 if you think about its contradictory it is. At the 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.080 same time, everything has become so political, every environment, the 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.400 environment is now political, no, even though we shop like 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:45.440 every everything. And I think with cancel, culture really magnifies that, um. 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.760 And I hope that everybody can just take away from 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.960 his conversation, if anything, like use your voice and actually 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.560 have conversations and people do research for yourself and don't 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.600 just listen, don't just listen. And I think that that 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.280 was the thing too. And people saw me posting something 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.320 out of respect for the military, um, because that isn't 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.200 I mean most of them. I'm very very liberal on 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.720 my social media, and I guess maybe that was a 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.880 little less liberal, like that doesn't align with what you 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:14.120 think liberal is supporting the military just because of the 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.280 media and what they've built it out to be, like 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.680 the military seems like very like far right ideal, which 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.920 isn't how it is. Um. But that's the thing too, 0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.200 that's exactly like if you listen and you can also 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.400 have opinions from varying places as well. Your opinions don't 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.200 need to align on one side. That's not democratic either, 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.760 you know, yeah, exactly. It's about forming your own opinions 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.120 and what you believe and not listening to just because 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.480 someone tells you to. And I think the fact that 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:48.960 also we're able to do that, and it's so yes, 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.480 I think of how many countries aren't able to do that. No, 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.120 I know it's so easy to feel helpless in this world, 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.600 especially right now, but to be we have the power 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.080 to take control back in ways we do. We do absolutely, 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.000 like you were saying, like we can take action into 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.120 our own hands. And I'm just gonna use veganism as 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.120 an example, um or kind of like the environment as 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.560 an example. So we have all these great protests all 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.280 over the world of young kids protesting for the environment 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.320 and getting policy change, and that's amazing and like policy 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.839 change is going to change it. But also we all 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.560 know how slow government moves and how slow things move 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.719 through government when we can take so much of the 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.839 only the power in our own hands. I have been 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.440 to multiple climate marches, like especially two summers ago, I 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.520 was like the one every single Friday and um, and 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.720 then I'd see people walking around with like McDonald's burgers, 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.239 and I'm like, well, do you know how much like 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.680 animal agriculture is contributing to carbon dioxide emissions? Like it 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.120 just was. It was very contradictory. And I think that 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.279 we're so focused on our policymakers is like making the 0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.480 change when there we have the power. We have the 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.560 power by doing that by thrift ng like we were 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.920 just talking about that how awesome thrifting is, and by 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.160 you know, encouraging like to save up for like maybe 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.160 a little bit more for a hybrid car instead of 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.160 gas guzzler, you know what I mean, Like we have 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.960 more of the power with so many different things versus 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.000 having to wait around for change to happen. How do 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.520 you use that that your knowledge that you have on 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.279 a bunch of issues that you keep learning about in 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.560 your work. Do you take some of the knowledge that 0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.640 you learn into your character? If that makes any sense? 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.600 I mean I think definitely. Um, I wouldn't necessarily say 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.920 always about political activism stuff, but I think that I'm 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.399 like a psych major, and I think studying the human 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:30.560 psyches and how different people interact and how society is interact. 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.840 I think that definitely comes into play when I'm like 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.400 building up a character and breaking them down and figuring 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.120 out like what makes them tick and who they are 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.040 and what they've been through, And that really helps bringing 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.520 that into it. And I think also, like you've done 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.160 so many different roles in so many different mediums, You've 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.879 done voiceovers, you've been acting, which are very different, Yes, 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:55.680 very different. When you're doing a voiceover, do you speak differently? 0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.200 Do you exaggerate more versus when you're on camera? Um? 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.920 With voiceovers, I think the biggest thing is like annunciation, 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.800 which is funny because I'm not a very nunciated person, 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.200 like in just how I speak casually, um, But in 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.120 voiceovers it's like a lot about annunciation and more energy too. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.640 But it also depends on a voice over you're doing. 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.160 If you're doing, uh, like a blind Light video game, 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.440 you're gonna be like more mellow and like you're at 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.640 the battlefield and you're talking like this. And then if 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.000 you're doing a Nickelodeon animated cartoon, you're gonna raise your 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:26.959 energy like this and talk a lot faster and add 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:32.399 like quirky voices. So god, I love that. So it's 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.240 gonna like change dramatically to I like what you're doing. 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.120 But I mean voiceovers are fun too because it's just 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.359 you and you're in a booth and like people can't 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.399 really see you, and you can make weird faces and 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.759 do weird things just to get into your body. So 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:50.200 I mean I love voiceovers as well. It's um like 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.239 over live action and voiceover live action. I mean I 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.480 think that as like, Yeah, I mean I think like 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.800 acting in the physicality of it though too, and putting 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.920 all of it together. And also with live action you 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:02.440 work a little bit more with the team like with 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.719 voice over year recording by yourself most of the time. 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:06.640 I mean, I love the getting to work as a 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.520 artist team and feed off of other people's energy. So 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.239 I do prefer that, but I think voiceover, especially during 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.160 the pandemic, was like the perfect thing. Yeah, and you're 0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.560 a very lorobbly person with your dream role, is it 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.840 someone that's similar to you or is it someone that's 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:24.640 completely opposite. Oh, so my dream role for a long 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.640 time would not be like roles about like you know, 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.360 just people playing people on the spectrum or like playing 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.160 autistic individuals. For a long time, I was like, Okay, 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:33.719 like that's my dream role. But like now I've like 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.919 you know, done some of about self refraction and I'm like, okay, 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.920 well that's like not appropriate, Like that's not my role 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.040 to play. So that's changed. I mean, that's another example 0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.120 of how we change and critically think and like evolve 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.239 as humans. Um So I think my dream role has 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.080 changed now to like Leonardo DiCaprio and The Basketball Diaries, 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.399 that is my dream role. I don't know. It's a 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.760 very very dramatic. He's super drug addicted and like going 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.000 through rehab throughout the entire movie and keep slipping up, 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.080 and it's a very like charactery grunge role. And I 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.480 think that would be ideal because you do not see 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.000 when you don't see many women and roles like that. 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.840 You see a lot of men going through rules like that. 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.520 You know, too many women portrayed. And then another type 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.960 of dreamer would be like a very charactery role, like 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.640 something Tim Burton wise, And once again there's not too 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.200 many women playing very charactery types. So I think that 0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.239 one of those two would be like dream rolls for me, 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.960 something just very extreme fest girl. Let's put it out 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.640 in the universe. Do you believe in manifestation. I go 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.200 back and forth. I um, I mean you know, you know, cricket. 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.680 She always like teasing me about this, like I will, 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:40.160 I'm don't manifest intentionally, but I like, I'm a big 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.000 daydreamercial just like daydream about things again and again and again, 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.439 and then it happens. And She's like, everything you want 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:49.560 like happens like in regards to I'm accidentally like manifest 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.760 just by thinking of I'm gon overthinker two so overthink 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.520 about things like again and again and again and again, 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.799 and then it kind of happens to be a manifestation. 0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.000 I guess, So I don't believe in it intentionally. Um. 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.720 Something that I've also been like struggling with his finding 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:07.880 a balance between work, school, and social life and dating 0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.560 in this day and age is so hard. Let alone 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.920 a pandemic. Let's forget about the pandemic. I can only 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:19.279 speak to my experiences. It is hard to date, especially 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:24.439 in this industry. Oh my goodness. Yeah, no, I mean, 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.719 I how do you have a mental sanity like just 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.319 dealing with it? Letting like what comes with cup? I mean, 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.400 I'll say, like I was pretty late to wanting to 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:37.040 date um. Yeah. I was pretty late to wanting to 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.040 have like a boyfriend or a relationship, um until I 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.520 was about like set, like almost eighteen, and then I 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.560 was like very like obsessed on the idea of like 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.520 I need a relationship, but I need a relationship like 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.600 all my friends were in what I needed on. Um. 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.279 So I got in a relationship and that we dated 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.000 over the pandemic, which made it, um, which made the 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.680 pandemic like easier. Feeling like that like yeah somebody, yeah exactly. Um. 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.000 But now that we we've been broken up throughout a 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.680 year now, wow, time like really flies. Um, I felix. 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.480 I was just like telling you, like, oh yeah, I 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.360 just got out of a relationship like that feels like 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.239 that was just yesterday. Um. But yeah, now that I've 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:12.840 had like a year of kind of figuring this is 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.520 like the first year I've been figuring out like how 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.680 to date in this industry, which is it's tough, it's 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.320 sticky too. And then I get a little hesitant to 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.120 date outside of the industry because I mean we've talked 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.360 about it plenty, like people kind of wanting you for 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:29.799 the motives. Yes, um yeah, I mean I think I've 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.040 found like to be honest, the like the best luck 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.120 still dating outside of the industry, but just like filtering 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.640 people out properly. I guess they're like really like trusting 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.560 when my parents are like, like, I don't get the 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.319 right like they are into you for the right reasons. Yeah, 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.800 how do you find the balance between filtering out the 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.160 fake people? There's quite a few, not to characterize, but 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.239 from my time in California New York, I've noticed more 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:56.520 big people in California. Yes, yes, but you filter that out. 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.440 I mean, I think the biggest thing, too, is not 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.080 letting it affect you too much. I think I used 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.440 to be like very like offended. If I was like, 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.080 oh my god, they were fake and they wanted like 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.640 I would like very I would take it very personally. Um. 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.560 And I've gotten a lot better at not taking things 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:14.200 as personally. UM. But I think that once you're out 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.880 here long enough, you just kind of see it from 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.360 a mile away. It's just it's not that hard. You 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.239 just get in the hang of it, and then it's 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.080 just kind of like you just don't. You just don't 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.600 pursue anything closer with those people. They're always gonna be there, 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.000 They're always going to be at the parties, like you 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.480 will always interact with them, but you don't need to 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.880 make anything deeper with them. I mean it's a process. Yeah. No, 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.319 I mean I think like the my bigger thing is 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.600 like I have a hard time with like mean or 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.799 entitled people out here, Like that's frustrating and like you 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.000 literally were with me as I was going through my 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.960 first ever i mean girl experience. So shout out to Sammy. 0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.560 That's like kind of how we really want was the 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:53.960 most real and there for me. Um. So yeah, I 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:55.960 mean I think like it's more that that kind of 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.040 will bug me as that people who aren't fake but 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.560 are like intentional and how they're manipulative and stuff like that, 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.320 and call it out and they just like are okay 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.279 with them being in that way. It's not even like 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.120 them being like subtle about it. No, they're quite bold 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.839 about it. The people who do that. Yeah, I still 0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.719 can't profit that. Yeah, but I mean, I mean I 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.960 think that like you've met so many people out here already, 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.799 like as you're living out here too, you know, I mean, 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.000 it just becomes easier and easier not to get caught 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.480 up with those people. I think the biggest thing is 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.440 you're not taking it personally like they're going through their 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.719 thing and just kind of let them be on their own. 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.640 I mean, I love my alone time too, So that's 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.279 how I reset after interacting with people who maybe don't 0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.920 align with my morals. Is I love alone time. I 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:37.600 love just going to the beach all day by myself 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.840 and reading a book and meditating, and like, yeah, I 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.000 definitely prioritize alone time kind of above when when I 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.800 have free time, I mean, I definitely make sure I 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.799 get my alone time done first. That's how you recharge. Yeah, 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.640 that is how I recharge. So I'm definitely an introvert 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.399 um and that's how I recharge. But I think also 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.640 that's important too, if you deal with fake people and 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.440 you're getting worn down by them, it's just kind of 0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.680 touch and with like who you are and realize, oh, 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.560 I'm not fake at all, Like I'm I'm a real one. 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.920 You're a real one, and that's important and I'm just 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.080 I just want to say, I am so glad that 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:12.040 we've met and become friends same because it's so rare 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:16.399 to find genuine people, but people that you're so similar to. Yeah, 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.520 I know people that it's like they're genuine, but also 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.399 you have stuff in common with and you can have 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.319 deep conversations with and that. Yeah, I mean, we felt 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.440 some like we have been kind of a long distance 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.120 friendship and fortunately we're still living on two different sides 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.000 of floss ange s, which sucks um. But I feel 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.359 like when we do see each other, like it's very 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:38.000 quality and I leave feeling very content and I feel 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:41.480 like I'm excited to continue. And I am so honored 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.440 that you came on. Everyone go follow Molly Jackson on Instagram, 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.200 Go check out her stuff. She is just the most incredible, 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.160 genuine person. Molly, thank you for coming on the podcast. 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:53.880 Thank you so much for having me. It was an 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.839 amazing time. I had so much fun. I could talk 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.800 to you for hours more. So we will, We will exactly. 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.080 Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.799 episode of the Let's Be Real Podcast. Molly, thank you 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.000 so much for coming on. I love her so much. 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.920 If you want to follow her on Instagram, you absolutely should. 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:16.040 Her instagram is Molly Jackson, and also follow her film account. 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.239 She takes awesome picks on film and you should just 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.640 follow her account. Also subscribe to the let's be real 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.920 podcasts if you haven't already, and follow me on Instagram 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.640 if you want my instagrams, it's Sammy J. That's I 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.400 T S S A M M Y j A y E. 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.480 I hope you guys like this week's episode and I 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:39.080 will see you next week. Bye.