1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Hello guys, and welcome back to this week's episode of 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: the Let's Be Real Podcast. This week, I got to 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: sit down with my good friend, actually, Molly Jackson. Now 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: you may know her as an actress or as an activist, 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: but she is one of the sweetest humans and I 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: am so honored that I get to call her my friend. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for her. We talked about literally everything. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: This episode is basically a steak peek into what our 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: friendship is like, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Molly, 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to hear my podcast. This is so 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: exciting because we've been talking about this for a minute. 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: We have For those who don't know, I want to 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: give a list set of how we met because I 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: think it's really funny and I kind of unexpected that 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: we became friends. Absolutely. Well. We met in the middle 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: of a pandemic, too, which is always on Instagram Live. 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: So it was during the election. You're both trying to 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: get the word out, get the vote, get people to 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: register from the vote, all the way. Yeah, and so 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: we didn't Instagram live and I remember it was like, man, 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: this girl we did how long? It like thirty minutes? 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Like a thirty minute. Well. It was funny about it too, 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: was you were supposed to be interviewing me then and 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: then they flipped it last minute, so I interviewed you 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: jury I've never interviewed anyone before. It was so weird 26 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: for me too, because I was like, so do I 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: just answer? You did a great job, by the way, 28 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: thank you. But I we just talked to us, like 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: why though it wasn't about like anything personal was take 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: it the about. I was like, we have a lot 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: in common, like we just clicked, if you will know, 32 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: even like our pacing and our tones and like a 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: kind of like sense of humor. It, Yeah, it was 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: really fun. And then so we didn't you followed each 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: other on social media. And then I went out to 36 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: California and I think it was February, and I did 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: this big trip, first time flying by myself. Stayed here 38 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: for a month supposed to be five days, and it 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: was a big chip in where I just accomplished a lot. 40 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I got over a bunch of my anxiety and I, 41 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: dam do. I was like, you know, let me reach 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: out to her. And then we got coffee and then 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: we realized we were literally the same person. Yes, No, 44 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: we had I mean even like our dad's share a 45 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: name and our moms have the same like area depression. 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: It was very weird. No, I mean we had very 47 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: like similar life parallels with our anxiety and like our 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: careers and like school and just kind of everything. And 49 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: then I just remember being like, man, this is a 50 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: girl that I want to stay friends with. I'm so 51 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: glad that you're on the podcast because now everyone get 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: to know more about you, you know, the incredible Molly 53 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: that you are. Well, I mean, I I've loved getting 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: to know you. And then I mean we reconnected all 55 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: we got really close. I think when I went to 56 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, yeah, then um, and now I'm officially 57 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: out in California and I know you moved. Welcome. You're 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: an official Callie girl. I think I've always been one 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: at heart. I think I think you've always been a 60 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: New York girl. Yes, and someday I'll make that move. 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: We're just gonna switch places. It's gonna we're gonna end 62 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: up in New York. I just know it. Hopefully, I'm 63 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: hoping next summer. Well, we'll see, we'll see that. I 64 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: want to be here for the first year year here 65 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: because you have to experience all the California stuff, but 66 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: the beach would do all the fun stuff. Um. We've 67 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: talked a lot about your career and stuff, just as 68 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: in itself. But I'm curious, do you remember when you 69 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: first started acting? I do, yeah, I UM. I was 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: four years old and my parents were looking for like 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: summer camps for me, and the only one I showed 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: any interest in was a theater camp. And they called 73 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: and they were like, no, you have to be five, 74 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Like the kid has to be five. So for the 75 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: difference of four to five and huge dramatic um. So 76 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: I waited like an entire year, I guess according to 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: my parents, I didn't bring it up once and then 78 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: like on my fifth birthday, I was like, okay, so 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: I can go to the acting camp now, and they 80 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: were like wow, like she still remembers that. So they 81 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: signed me up, and quite like significantly, I the very 82 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: first day, I just jumped out of the car and 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: I walked inside. And up until that point I had 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: debilitating separation anxiety from my mom. So for the fact 85 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: that for something was the very first time I ever 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: walked away from my mom ever, and from that moment 87 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: my parents were like, Okay, she has to do this 88 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: for the rest of her life. So yeah. So after 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: that first camp, the first play was we did No 90 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: White and the Seven Little Piggies. So I was like 91 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: a little pig. I was the littlest pig of them all, 92 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: and I had like pink paint on my nose and 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: it was so much fun. And then I literally just 94 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: went from summer camp to summer camp to summer camp. 95 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Like I did not stop doing plays at this theater 96 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: for two and a half years. Did you do anything 97 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: during the school year or was it just like, yes, 98 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: I did stuff doing during the school year, they had 99 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: a little like weekend programs or a little like weekend uh, 100 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, like just training and stuff like that. 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: And then over winter break we had like our winter play, 102 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: and then the spring there was like a medley and 103 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: I was definitely the youngest one. They're the smallest one. 104 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: There was itty bitty as a kid. Um. But I 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: mean just the moment, I've just felt the presence of 106 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: this little theater. It's called Kids and Co and Alpaso, 107 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Texas shout out to them. They're wonderful. Um. Yeah, I 108 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: just felt like home and I felt safe, and I 109 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: felt like I could be myself, and my anxiety literally 110 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: was left at the door every time. Man, that's crazy, 111 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: especially like I know what you're talking about. When I 112 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: do these conversations. It's one of the times where like 113 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: anxiety is in there. If you're an anxious person, you know, 114 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: he finds something you love that doesn't make you anxious. 115 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: That is so huge. No, you know that then you 116 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: have to be doing that thing if you're stupid to 117 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: walk away from it because it's so rare. Yeah, well, 118 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean during that exact same period that I was 119 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: at this children's theater, I would go to school on 120 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, off days, and I would cry and cry 121 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the entire school day until mom picked me up. So 122 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I knew it was specifically that it was literally we 123 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: have these know when the teachers would really reassure my 124 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: mom like, oh, she'll stop crying in like ten minutes. 125 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: By the time she picked me up, I was still sobbing. Yeah, 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: that was me. I used to have my mom, so 127 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I us have really best separation anxiety from my mom too. 128 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: That's other peril um. And I used to make her 129 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: walk up the stairs with me into the classroom like 130 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't walk up the stairs with everybody by myself. 131 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, my mom had to park in 132 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: the parking lot instead of just like the little like 133 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: loopy do drop off, she had to like park walk 134 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: me in. Just crazy. I look back and it feels 135 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: like a different person. But I'm proud of her. And 136 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: then I was about seven and a half when manager 137 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: came to the theater and was like, oh, like me 138 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and one other kid, like, I'm gonna bring him out 139 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: to l A and let's see how this goes. Um 140 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: So I kind of did like a boot camp there 141 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and I met an agent and I got some headshots 142 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: and I was seven, just having the time of my life. Tea. Yeah, 143 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: and I think, exactly, I'll Passo Texas, like right in 144 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: the little tip there, big military town, because my family 145 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: is also a military family. Um, So we were out 146 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: there in Los Angeles. My parents were pretty worried about 147 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: how that transition would be from my little theater to 148 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: said they thought maybe it was just the theater that 149 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: like didn't cause me anxiety, and then being on set 150 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: the same thing happened. I just didn't. I mean I 151 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: had to legally then have my mom on set with me, 152 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, child laws, but I don't think I checked 153 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: in with her like once throughout the day, I was 154 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: just having I would just have the time. It was 155 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: my favorite. It's still my favorite place in the world 156 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: is being on set or acting in any cuacity. Something 157 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: people don't realize that, like being on set. It's not 158 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: as glamorous as people. It's just a lot of hurry 159 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: up and wait. It is and first reason, like I 160 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: still love that, Like I get tempted to read, and 161 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: like I love talking to people and like just learning 162 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: people's stories, like I can always be instead of I mean, 163 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of actors like eat their 164 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: lunch and like their trailers and stuff like that, and 165 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the lat I don't know when I've 166 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: ever done that. I think I can remember one time 167 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: when I was kind of sick on set and they 168 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: needed to keep me isolated. But like I'm always like 169 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: with everybody else eating, Like I just it's every moment 170 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: of It's not glamorous, but I love it every moment. 171 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: It's just there's so much to learn and so much 172 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: like stimulations, you know. I so when I was working 173 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: with Radio Disney R I p Radio Disney. Um, I 174 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: did a bunch of like backstage with these Disney shows, 175 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: and I really experienced for the first time, like what 176 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: set life was, and it has nothing that I expected. 177 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Like what people don't realize doing one scene can take hours? Yes, yeah, hours? 178 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: What was the longest it took you to finish one scene? 179 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Funny enough, Um, this is like kind of one of 180 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: my favorite stories. But funny enough, the longest scene I 181 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: ever had to shoot was like a kiss scene. Um, 182 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: this is Andy Mack with Josh rush Um. So this 183 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: was our We had a kiss twice in the show, 184 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: which is kind of unusual for Disney. Um. But so 185 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: this was the second time we were kissing in the show, 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: and we did probably I think like we had both 187 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: been keeping count. I think we ended up doing like 188 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: thirty four takes of it. There was no reason we 189 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: needed thirty four takes of a kiss scene. And we 190 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: were both like fifteen, and we were auntsy and we 191 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: were starting to get like, oh gosh, this is just 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: getting worse and worse and worse. It's something that we 193 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: can like we always bring it up when we're together, 194 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: which is like it's a great memory to laugh about. 195 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think we probably shot that 196 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: scene for like six hours, like we took lunch and 197 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: went back to it. It was the longest scene of 198 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: my life. And my parents were on side with who 199 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: my nana took me. So my nana's there like with 200 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: her book, like just watching me, like kiss this boy 201 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again. And was 202 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: this like your first kiss? So the first time we 203 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: kissed on the show, Yes, it was my first kiss. 204 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: So I had my first kiss on Disney Channel when 205 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: I was fifteen, which is iconic, but also when I 206 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: was Yes, now, I think it's amazing and I'm glad 207 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: that happened because like what a story. But at the 208 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: time and I was fifteen, Oh, I was so upset. 209 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: I was like I wanted my first kiss like a 210 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: school dance, like, but no, Josh and I mean we 211 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: we were really close and we were good friends before 212 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: we did it on set. It's also like a Disney kiss, 213 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: it's like a it's just a pack and it was 214 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: really fun. But the first time that we kissed in 215 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: an episode of both his dad and my mom were 216 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: like there with their iPhones, like recording it in our faces. 217 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: So we had like the camera and it was like 218 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: fifty adults just as two kids, hormonal fifteen year old 219 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: and your parents are filming. Y, so my parents like 220 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: have it on video because they're like, the first one 221 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: is not going to make the cut of the episode, 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: so like we'll have it. That is okay. Yeah, Like 223 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: those are the things people don't realize. Yeah, it's so 224 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I get a lot of um. 225 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a lot of friends outside of 226 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: the industry too. I think, like you know, just my 227 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: military friends and stuff like that. Um, and it's always 228 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: like a lot of concern that I missed out on things. 229 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, but I don't ever feel that way 230 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: because I got so many other weird experiences like that 231 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: that are cool and like unique and also you love Yes, 232 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. I will say you are one 233 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: of the few people where you love every process of it. 234 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: When you tat when I'm texting, You're like, I'm doing 235 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: a self tape. I'm so excited. I'm like, yes, girl. 236 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: Like people don't realize when you're an actor, your main 237 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: job is auditioning. That is a full time job in itself, 238 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about that for a second, 239 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: because that isn't talked about. And I think you've heard 240 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: me about this to you, like in our friendship. But 241 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: so I'm glad you bring you brought this up. Um, No, 242 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: auditioning is your main job. That is the job. When 243 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: I get a self tape, I'm like, Okay, this is 244 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: my job. Like booking, it's just the extra perk, and 245 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: that means you get to continue with the character. You know, 246 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: everyone has their own process. It baffles me when other 247 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: actors like complain about self tapes. I'm like, what do 248 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: you mean, Like, how are you not loving this? Like 249 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: this is a new character and you need to work 250 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: on it and put it on camera and like people 251 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: are gonna watch and laugh or cry. Like every audition 252 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: is a performance in itself. And that's why I just 253 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: I love class. I love auditions. Like I was texting 254 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: you last night. It was in a six hour acting class. 255 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: How long is this class going for? It's my Thursday 256 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: night class and it's just a group of actors who 257 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: just absolutely love every step of the process as well. 258 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest one in the class. Um, and it's 259 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: only supposed to be four hours, but we usually go 260 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: till midnight. Man, It's like I always call it like 261 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: my second therapy every week, because like I have therapy 262 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: and then this is my other thing. Would you say 263 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: being an actor, because you're going into different mindsets in 264 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: different perspectives, help you with just putting your anxiety into 265 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: perspective sometimes or do you keep those separate? I I 266 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: do tend to keep those separate, and I hope somebody 267 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't have to, but I think that, like right now, 268 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm still working through my anxiety at like a high 269 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: enough level that I'm not quite ready to like merge 270 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: the two. So I do have to keep this pretty separate, 271 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: which I'm excited for that day I don't have to 272 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: because then I can kind of merge that disc like 273 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: get rid of the disconnect there. But what does help 274 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: me with characters? It's I'm also like a psych major 275 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: in school, so I think like kind of all three though, 276 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: like my anxiety, psych major, and then acting, they all 277 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: come together. They really do. Yeah, they make they help 278 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: with my empathy and just like my interactions with other people, 279 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: And how do you balance school and your career Because 280 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: I know something that I've struggled with and it's a challenge. 281 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: It really is it is? Yeah, I mean I don't 282 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: know that. For the last couple of years of school, 283 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: I was nearly as busy as you were with school. 284 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't even I don't know how you do it, 285 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: Like I talked to you about it, and I'm like, 286 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: something's not making sense, Like when did you sleep? I 287 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: don't know how I did it either. That's a question 288 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: that I need to ask myself to That was just 289 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: subconsciously I went through. And now you're going to be 290 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: a full time college student doing it as well a 291 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: new challenge. Wow, you baffle us all. But I'm not 292 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: on set for hours and hours and hours like acting 293 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: is a full like time Yeah, it's definitely the only 294 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: thing with acting though two is like you definitely have 295 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: like your breaks though, So I think that like the 296 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: main thing is finding a school that will work with 297 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: you on that. So that like maybe if you're working 298 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: for a month straight and you're working twelve hour days 299 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: every day for a month, um, you're not gonna have 300 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: any time for school. Then if you still want to 301 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: sleep and have like somewhat of a social life, which 302 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: that unfortunately is probably the thing that takes the biggest 303 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: back burner for me is like my social life when 304 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm working. Um, but I've had schools that will be 305 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: like Okay, like this month you won't do any school, 306 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: but next month you gotta double up. So it's like 307 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: kind of I've been very lucky with my teachers and 308 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: like my principles and stuff who have worked with me 309 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: on more making it like a year round school. I 310 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: think it's one of the things like being a child actor, 311 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: especially you probably you do school on set too, Yeah, 312 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: you do school with the people you're working with. Yeah, well, 313 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that that's an interesting about that school though, 314 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: is for me personally, when I was doing set on school, 315 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: which is technically you need three hours a day and 316 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: you need like a certain number of breaks. But the 317 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: only issue is is that like they would be like, okay, 318 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: we have ten minutes like go to some school and 319 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: then clock like that, it takes me five minutes to 320 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: log into my online school program. So unfortunately I never 321 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: got to the place where I could figure out how 322 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: to really get that much school done. So for me, 323 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: more so, it was being on set, maybe doing a 324 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: little bit here and there, um, and then coming home 325 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: and just doing school for five hours straight and then 326 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: going to bed. So that was like very I think 327 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: from like thirteen to fifteen, that was like I was 328 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: busiest with work then and that was probably like the 329 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: most tactic time when you and Mac. Yeah, that's when 330 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: I was on Andy Mack and Game Shakers, Nikki, Ricky, Dickie, 331 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: and Don so I was kind of like rotating guest 332 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: stars on all those shows. Um So, yeah, so it 333 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: was pretty and then with auditions and stuff like that 334 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: as well. Um So that was a very like stressful 335 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: time where I really don't remember having too many friendships. 336 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, like unfortunately these between school and work 337 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: and then you do want to have somewhat of a 338 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: social life, but then you also have responsibilities like interviews 339 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: and press and events and stuff like that. So it 340 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: was definitely kind of it was overwhelming. And now I'm 341 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: figuring out what I want to do with college, and 342 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: I just don't want to go back to that place 343 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: because that was a very stressful place. One of the 344 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: good things though, from being on Disney is that you're 345 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: with people your own age. It's not like you were 346 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: just with much younger people all the time or months 347 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: least you had at least you were able to socialize 348 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: with people your age. Absolutely, no, I got to socialize 349 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: with because that's kind of where you did get like 350 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: your friend time on set in those shows. It was 351 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: so like compounded though. I think it was really fun 352 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: because Anti Max shot in Utah, so I would like 353 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: be in l A and then I'd fly out to 354 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: shoot an episode or two in Utah and that come 355 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: back and you know, back and forth where like the 356 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: series regulars on that show were there in Utah for 357 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the entire year. It was fun. It was like sweethell, 358 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Like they got so excited when like the guest starts 359 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: would come out or whatever, because I mean I I 360 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: thought of them in their situation. There's just four of 361 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: them together NonStop for a year. So like it was 362 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of fun coming because then you kind of felt 363 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: like the superstar on Sex because everyone was so excited. 364 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: How blood to talk to exactly? Just so I can 365 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: get a better sense, let's use Andy Mac as an example. 366 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: How long did it take to film an episode? What 367 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: were your hours? Like? Well, I mean Anti Max a 368 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: really unique example of a Disney show. Granite, like more 369 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Disney Plus shows now we're doing what Andy Mac did. Um, 370 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: but Anti Mac was like a single camp, so it 371 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: wasn't multi cam like the other shows Disney Nick. Yeah, 372 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: so single cam, so it took a little bit longer, um, 373 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: a lot more like discipline. Like that's why it was 374 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: more grounded performance, um because single cam doesn't want big 375 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: animated performance like a multi cam does. Um. But no, 376 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean pretty much like call time is usually around 377 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: like six am every day, so like getting up, you'd 378 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: take like the bus would pick you up to set, 379 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: like you'd get in the van, you'd go to set. 380 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Um you were there, like going to set doing school, 381 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: going to set doing school, kind of back and forth, 382 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: and then lunch was about an hour. Um, they had 383 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: great food on the set of Andy Maack too. That 384 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: was like amazing craft services. I will always remember, um 385 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: then know so, I mean then we'd have lunch and 386 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: then we go back to set and then kind of 387 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: depending on like when you got called and stuff, you'd 388 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: wrap and people were also coming and going because some 389 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: people just had like a scene for two hours of 390 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: the day and then they'd leave. And then afterwards, I 391 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: mean we usually like went out and did something too 392 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: after a set, which was super fun because that was 393 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: like our social life. So we'd go to get dinner, 394 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: go bowling, or go roller skating, and yeah, so it 395 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: was really fun. I want to go roller skating. That 396 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: sounds so much fun. There's a really good rink in 397 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Glendale here and we go. Absolutely, it's super fun, very 398 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: affordable too. I used to love what was it, um rollerblading? 399 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I yes, I My sister and I 400 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: were obsessed from eight. I was like, there, my rollerblades 401 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: were grand purple. Mine were purple. Another parallel. Look at that. 402 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: It's so odd how much we have in common. I know, 403 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: we've talked about this. It's really weird when you like 404 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: think about it. It is, no, it is weird. It's 405 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: like and also like living on kind of two different 406 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: coasts and wanting to live where each other are. Kind 407 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: of like we should have done like a parent trap 408 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: or something like that. I think I could have worked. 409 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: I think it could have just I would have dyed 410 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: my hair more. Well, you were brunettes, so I was brunette. 411 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: Where you go bond you could pull up blonde. Maybe 412 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I feel like I get 413 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: a little too like dark in the summer. Or maybe 414 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: bond wouldn't have worked. You could. Maybe I've never ever 415 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: varied from my hair color. Would you ever for work? Yes? 416 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't think not for works? So like a job 417 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: is like shave your head. Absolutely, I want to shave 418 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: my head at one point in my life. Joey King said, 419 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: I think every woven should shave their head at least 420 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: once once in their life. She shaved her head, like 421 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: what three times for work? It like nobody's business. She 422 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: is my favorite. She is my favorite, like my favorite 423 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: career example. Like I think she's such like a well 424 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: rounded person, Like I love her social media, like everything 425 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: she does she just does it right. And I want 426 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: to live exactly like she does want us. Then I 427 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: remember that movie, Yes, that was one of my favorite movies. 428 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't watch the scene that when she ran away. 429 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: That just made me too sad. Oh yeah, that was 430 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: really stumble. I thought I was funny enough, so with 431 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: such separation anxiety, you think I wouldn't, But that seem 432 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: like inspired me to be dramatic and runaway. When I 433 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: was ten, You ran away, but I ran away to 434 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: my garage. We had a detached garage, and I packed 435 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: up my stuff and dramatically stormed the fat yard I didn't. 436 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: Once I was I'm leaving, and I just packed my 437 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: bad and I went down the hallway and then I 438 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: went back into that department because I missed my mom. Yeah, well, 439 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: because it's so sad. I wish I was rebellious some time. No, 440 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: I know, same here and it will. Even in the garage, 441 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: I was just sobbing because of how much I missed 442 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: my mom, and like she came and got me and 443 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: she's like, I know you're crying about me, and I'm like, yeah, 444 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: like I want to come back in. Sometimes I just 445 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: wish I could just like not care and I could 446 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: just like wouldn't that just be free and just like 447 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: not because it's not just like just not that like 448 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: we care. It's not just like caring what people think 449 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: about us. It's it's caring about what's gonna Like it's 450 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: your rational fears, like what's going to happen to the 451 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: people around us, what's gonna happen to us? Like, yeah, 452 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: like did I mess with the fabric of the universe 453 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: and something bad is going to happen. It's just like 454 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: all these very we can like rationally know they're irrational, 455 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: but at the same time they just keep us from 456 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: doing things exactly. Okay, Molly, we have to take a 457 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: quick break, but when we come back, I want to 458 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: talk more about acting, specifically the audition process, your activism, 459 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: and so much more. We'll be right back, and we're 460 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: back some of the things that I've been trying to 461 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: not let's stop me. But something that's been like really 462 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: hard that I've noticed is just like rejection. And your 463 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: job is a big part of it is rejection. What's 464 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: your general reacho of like how many self tapes per 465 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: job do you get? Um? That's so funny too that 466 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: now it's like called self tapes per job because he 467 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: used just be like in first auditions. It's just like 468 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: I had a moment of realizing. I was like, oh 469 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: my god, it's not in person anymore. That's so sad. 470 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Um you miss in person, yeah, big time. Wouldn't the 471 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: people though? Yeah, But it's those nerves that I think 472 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: like making good though, you know, because you can turn 473 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: that nervousness into the excitement and like the hyper focus 474 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't I miss 475 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: in person because I like interacting with people too, versus 476 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: just like being pent up in shooting your room yeah, 477 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: in my garage with my mom, and I'm like, this 478 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: is how many auditions would you say you do per year? Um? 479 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Because there are some weeks that you're like per day, 480 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: You're just knocking them out. Yeah. I mean it's been 481 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: a fluctuating like balance kind of throughout my life. It's 482 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard for me to ballpark it because 483 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: I've been doing it now for like professionally twelve years. 484 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Twelve or thirteen years was just pandemic. Let's just go pandemic, uh, 485 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: because it's been harder to book. Yeah, I mean, okay, 486 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: it's like the beginning of the pandemic nothing because everything 487 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: shut down. And then I'd say since October when things 488 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: were starting to open up. Um, I've maybe had like 489 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: thirty to forty, which is pretty low compared to business, 490 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: compared to my peers, I think because I had been 491 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: between representation as well, so I'm trying to like find 492 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: my happy balance with that. Um. Yeah, i'd say about 493 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: thirty and from those, I've booked three, so that's a 494 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: really good ratio and I'm super duper grateful for that. 495 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of went through the balance of 496 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: when I was really young, I would book maybe like 497 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: one out of twenty, which was pretty like unheard of. 498 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: And I think it was only because I could play 499 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: so young. I was like seven, but I was playing 500 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: four years old, so like what what actual four year 501 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: old can read? So that was like that's how little 502 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: I was. As I got older, it like went less 503 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: and less, which also like took a huge hit on 504 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: like and that's also when I was going through puberty 505 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: and so so you know, that takes another hit on 506 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: the ego and like self confidence is having a lesson. 507 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: But that's natural, Like more people enter the industry every year, 508 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: so you have more competition as you go along. Yeah, 509 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of your peers also, you 510 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: compete with two auditions, So how do you like find 511 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: a balance where you don't think of them as your 512 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: competition your friends with them, but also no, it is 513 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: a competition at the same time. Yeah, I mean I 514 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: had a really like weird realization I think right before 515 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: the pandemic of just kind of putting it into perspective 516 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: because I think that I did get caught up in 517 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: the competition of it, because of course there are it's 518 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: some people who egg on the competition of it as well. 519 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: Which is unfortunate. Um I, Well, one thing you have 520 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: to like kind of settle with is if the job's 521 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: meant for you, it's meant for you. And at the 522 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: end of the day too, it's the writer's baby and 523 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: it's the writer's project. And also you want them to 524 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: have the best persons. So one thing that I started 525 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: to do, which is unusual, and people have told me 526 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: that's unusual. I do this, and my team won't like 527 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: hearing this. But when I get an audition, if I 528 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I send it out to all my friends who I 529 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: think are right for it, so I will share with 530 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: them because I just for me for some reason, that helps. 531 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: That helped me big time feel like it just it 532 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: completely acts out any competition because I'm like, okay, well, 533 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: like I'm sharing the information and then that way it's 534 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: completely like everyone has a chance at it. So then 535 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: if I get it, then I know I was the 536 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: best for it. I won't lie like I was super 537 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: competitive about it before, like it was almost when I 538 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: was younger, Like I almost had a hard time being 539 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: friends with girls who were my direct competition because it 540 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: felt toxic and there was so much jealousy involved, and 541 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: of course there's still jealousy involved, Like, of course there's things. 542 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I really wanted that, and like now 543 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: my friends getting to shoot in New York for a 544 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: month with it, you know what I mean. But at 545 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's like, if you stick 546 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: with it, it will come around for you eventually. Yeah. 547 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: I saw this master class with Bryan Cranston and he 548 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: was like, I every time I go into audition, to 549 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: make sure I don't get jealous or compare myself, I 550 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: just go, this wasn't on this audition. It's not mine, like, 551 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: it's not I role. It's yeah, I've just got to 552 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: do the best performance I can do, and whatever happens happens. 553 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: It's just not mine to be upset about. I love 554 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: that because it isn't yours. It's the writers and the 555 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: directors and the team behind it. Like you're all you're 556 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: doing is portraying it. And I think that, Yeah, as 557 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: soon as I had that realization that it didn't belong 558 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: to me, it never belongs to even I think even 559 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: after you look at it doesn't belong to you because 560 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: then it belongs to the audience who's getting to enjoy it. 561 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: So I think as soon as you kind of let 562 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: go of the ownership and the possessiveness, there's really no 563 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: reason to feel like you're in competition with anybody. And 564 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: I know it's hard because unfortunately we are living in 565 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: a place where everything is so dictated by how many 566 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: followers you have, which can be really frustrating, especially when 567 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily always about the art and the chapter, 568 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: how many years you're putting the work into do it. 569 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: So how do you deal with that? Just like maintaining 570 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: your sanity and mental heal because again you're ninety like me, 571 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: social media can be pretty shitty being our age comparsolutely, 572 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: but also thinking me as a business, like how do 573 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: you compartmentalize it? Because I go back and forth on 574 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: my opinions on it every day, like you can ask 575 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: my mom. I think one day I'm like I really 576 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: like social media, like I need to embrace it, like 577 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I need to like work it better, And then the 578 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: very next day, I'm like, I hate it. I want 579 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: them all gone, like you didn go trumble, Like I'm 580 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: just it's so night or day for me when yeah, 581 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: I've done that. So I go back and forth at that. 582 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll always remember my very first role that 583 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get based on followers. I was twelve years old, 584 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: and that was the first time I was realizing that, 585 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: like the industry was changing in that direction, and like 586 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: I'll always remember that. Yeah, it was kind of it 587 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: was a crazy realization where I was like I felt, 588 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, I did a good audition and that didn't matter. 589 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: That's such a helpless feeling. Yeah, it felt hopeless. That 590 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: was really hard to come to terms with. And then 591 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: I think to compensate for that, I went like crazy 592 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: for a while, wanting to be like, Okay, well I'm 593 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: gonna build my following and like I'm going to do 594 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: influencery things, and like I started like a YouTube channel 595 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: and I was like hanging out with the influencer crowd, 596 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: and I think that that was something that I was like, Okay, well, 597 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: this is going to fix it. And then I realized, well, 598 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: like I'm living everything just to share it on social media, 599 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: and like then that's not fulfilling life wise. I might 600 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: think that's going to help my career, but that's not 601 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: fulfilling life wise at all. So I definitely like pulled 602 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: back from all of that, and I mean, now it's 603 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: more just that day to day thing, Like right now 604 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm posting on my social media more than I have 605 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: in the past year because I think I like I 606 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: was like, okay, like I'm gonna try again, Like I'm 607 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna put in the effort, but then I have those 608 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: day to day breakdowns, So who knows. I mean, you're 609 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: also posting a lot of informative stuff yea, yeah, I 610 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: try to. Yeah, And it's really important And something that 611 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: I just respect about you so much is that with 612 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: your platform, you're using it to educate people and to 613 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: get people involved in activism, which is so important. What 614 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: made you get into activism in the first place. Was 615 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: there a certain issue or was it just something that 616 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: kind of came up naturally? My mom has always been 617 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: like super duper active, um and just socially aware and 618 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: like she allowed to watch the news from a young 619 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: age and UM, so I've always had that encouragement for 620 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: my parents. And then funny enough, I was actually listening 621 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: to um an interview or a speech by Miley Cyrus 622 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: and she had like this one quote that stood out 623 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: to me that was like having a platform and not 624 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: using it as the biggest crime that like we could 625 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: commit in the modern day, and I just like that. 626 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: I sat with that and I was like, wow, Like 627 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: I have a platform, Like I have a couple hundred 628 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: thousand followers, Like it might not be as much as 629 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: the people I know with millions, but I can still 630 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: do something. And I have this and people will listen 631 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: to me, like they're buying the clothes I'm wearing and stuff, 632 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: So why can't they, you know, make the calls to 633 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: the governors that like could be more impactful. And I 634 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: think I just kind of put two and two together. 635 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: So I started kind of posting when I was like 636 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: volunteering at dog shelters or if I was doing like 637 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: a beach clean up, and I started posting like when 638 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: I was being active, and like then I was attaching 639 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: links to like how other people could get involved. And 640 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: then eventually, I mean, I just like organizations started reaching 641 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: out to collaborate or to work together. And then I 642 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: got really invested when I flew up to Sacramento, the 643 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: California state capital, for the first time, and uh, I 644 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: lobbied with are Assembly members and then I spoke at 645 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: an Assembly hearing for women's rights to abortion access, and 646 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: so yeah, it was I didn't know that. Yeah, I 647 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: mean I haven't done it in a while because of 648 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: the pandemic, so I was doing it early. Um, and 649 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: I think that moment it was probably the most emotional 650 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of my life, because, um, you had 651 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: to hear the opposing side and their argument to it, 652 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: and I just felt like it was I think women's 653 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: rights were the first thing that I was super passionate 654 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: about because I in that moment, I was like, how like, 655 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: people just really don't care what happens to me. They 656 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: care about this idea of like cells growing inside of 657 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: my body right now more than anything else. And that 658 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: just kind of I don't know, that struck me. That 659 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: made me very sad, and I was like, I want 660 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: to advocate for this. And then that kind of fed into, um, 661 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different paths. I mean, environmentalism, like and 662 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: my whole family's vegan, so, um, we're focused on that. 663 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: And then back in twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic, 664 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: my sister's school had a school shooting, and then we 665 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: became very focused on going control in our family. And 666 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: then military yes, I mean military family, which was a 667 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: huge contrast. And um, when I was younger, too, like 668 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: we always had guns in the house, like that was 669 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: very normal. There was nothing unusual about that. And I 670 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: think we all kind of came to the realization like wow, 671 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: like that's not that's not necessary, and like, look at 672 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: the pain that's causing the people in our community and 673 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: my sister. That's been an interesting contrast too, is we 674 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: have so many military friends and our closest family friends 675 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: and family are military personnel, and so we have great 676 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: respect for them. And I idolized my dad. My dad 677 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: was in the army for twenty seven years. So that 678 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: is a contrast which is interesting. And I think seeing 679 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: him balance that has been helpful. So like he he's 680 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: like very liberal and active as well, but he's military, 681 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: and I think how he balances that is very graceful. 682 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: And I look up to that. We're in a place 683 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: where everything is so divided. Our country is divided on everything, 684 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: and I think if we can all just hear each 685 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: other out. I think if you hear both perspectives and 686 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: actually listen, it's not about talking about listening, That's how 687 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: we make the biggest change. All Right, Molly, we have 688 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: to take one more quick break, but when we come back, 689 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk more about your activism and dive 690 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: into that. I also want to talk about dating and 691 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: cancel culture. We'll be right back. I remember when you 692 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: were in New York. It was I think this Memorial 693 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Day's Memorial Day, and you went an hour outside the city, 694 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: tire yourself transportation to go to a cemetery to pay 695 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: respects for those who gave their lives. And I remember 696 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I commented, I was like, this is incredible, Like this 697 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: is so important that you're just acknowledging it. I remember 698 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: you telling me that you lost like a thousand followers 699 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, no, I did, and I had, um 700 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: not everything has to be political, and I feel like no, 701 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: and they, um, that was my thing because I am 702 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: a military kid. I have great respect for the military 703 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: and my dad and I I mean they people, so 704 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: many people died for us and are I mean, everything 705 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: we do, just the way we protest would not be 706 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: safe in another country, even which is which is crazy. 707 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think we realized that enough like the 708 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: positives of what the military has done. So I wanted 709 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: to go pay my respects and I thought that that 710 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: was important. Um, and I had some friends even texting 711 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: me who are who I've worked with on other campaigns, 712 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, that was really disappointing, like seeing you 713 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: supporting the military, and I like that. I didn't have 714 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: to be a political thing though at all. That's just 715 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: paying respects for like our fallen like I remember very 716 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: I think a couple of Fourth of July is ago. 717 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: Um I had seen some people online like burning the 718 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: flag for Fourth of July, which really made me really 719 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: upset and worked up about it. And I talked to 720 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: my dad about it and he made he was not 721 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: upset at all about it, which surprised me. I thought 722 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: he would be, like he's Mr. Military, and he brought 723 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: up a really good point. He's like, well, he's like 724 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's like even he's like, there's He's like, 725 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: most of the country is still like you could face 726 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: years in prison for that and the death Penalty's like, 727 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: but that's part of what we fight for. He's like, 728 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: we did laid on our lives even for the right 729 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: to burn the flag. He's like, and that's sad, He's like, 730 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: but that's part of it. He's like, when I see 731 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: people burning the flag, I'm like, oh, well, they're exercising 732 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: the right, And I was like, that's so like a 733 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: casual like that was so it's so not attached that 734 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: he looks at that as some freedom, which exactly which 735 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: if you think about its contradictory it is. At the 736 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: same time, everything has become so political, every environment, the 737 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: environment is now political, no, even though we shop like 738 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: every everything. And I think with cancel, culture really magnifies that, um. 739 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: And I hope that everybody can just take away from 740 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: his conversation, if anything, like use your voice and actually 741 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: have conversations and people do research for yourself and don't 742 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: just listen, don't just listen. And I think that that 743 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: was the thing too. And people saw me posting something 744 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: out of respect for the military, um, because that isn't 745 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean most of them. I'm very very liberal on 746 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: my social media, and I guess maybe that was a 747 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: little less liberal, like that doesn't align with what you 748 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: think liberal is supporting the military just because of the 749 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: media and what they've built it out to be, like 750 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: the military seems like very like far right ideal, which 751 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: isn't how it is. Um. But that's the thing too, 752 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly like if you listen and you can also 753 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: have opinions from varying places as well. Your opinions don't 754 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: need to align on one side. That's not democratic either, 755 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, exactly. It's about forming your own opinions 756 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: and what you believe and not listening to just because 757 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: someone tells you to. And I think the fact that 758 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: also we're able to do that, and it's so yes, 759 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: I think of how many countries aren't able to do that. No, 760 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I know it's so easy to feel helpless in this world, 761 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: especially right now, but to be we have the power 762 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: to take control back in ways we do. We do absolutely, 763 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: like you were saying, like we can take action into 764 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: our own hands. And I'm just gonna use veganism as 765 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: an example, um or kind of like the environment as 766 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: an example. So we have all these great protests all 767 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: over the world of young kids protesting for the environment 768 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: and getting policy change, and that's amazing and like policy 769 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: change is going to change it. But also we all 770 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: know how slow government moves and how slow things move 771 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: through government when we can take so much of the 772 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: only the power in our own hands. I have been 773 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: to multiple climate marches, like especially two summers ago, I 774 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: was like the one every single Friday and um, and 775 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: then I'd see people walking around with like McDonald's burgers, 776 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, do you know how much like 777 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: animal agriculture is contributing to carbon dioxide emissions? Like it 778 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: just was. It was very contradictory. And I think that 779 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: we're so focused on our policymakers is like making the 780 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: change when there we have the power. We have the 781 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: power by doing that by thrift ng like we were 782 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: just talking about that how awesome thrifting is, and by 783 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, encouraging like to save up for like maybe 784 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more for a hybrid car instead of 785 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: gas guzzler, you know what I mean, Like we have 786 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: more of the power with so many different things versus 787 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: having to wait around for change to happen. How do 788 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: you use that that your knowledge that you have on 789 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of issues that you keep learning about in 790 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: your work. Do you take some of the knowledge that 791 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: you learn into your character? If that makes any sense? 792 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think definitely. Um, I wouldn't necessarily say 793 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: always about political activism stuff, but I think that I'm 794 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: like a psych major, and I think studying the human 795 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: psyches and how different people interact and how society is interact. 796 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: I think that definitely comes into play when I'm like 797 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: building up a character and breaking them down and figuring 798 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: out like what makes them tick and who they are 799 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: and what they've been through, And that really helps bringing 800 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: that into it. And I think also, like you've done 801 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: so many different roles in so many different mediums, You've 802 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: done voiceovers, you've been acting, which are very different, Yes, 803 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: very different. When you're doing a voiceover, do you speak differently? 804 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: Do you exaggerate more versus when you're on camera? Um? 805 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: With voiceovers, I think the biggest thing is like annunciation, 806 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: which is funny because I'm not a very nunciated person, 807 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: like in just how I speak casually, um, But in 808 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: voiceovers it's like a lot about annunciation and more energy too. 809 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: But it also depends on a voice over you're doing. 810 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: If you're doing, uh, like a blind Light video game, 811 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be like more mellow and like you're at 812 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: the battlefield and you're talking like this. And then if 813 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you're doing a Nickelodeon animated cartoon, you're gonna raise your 814 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 1: energy like this and talk a lot faster and add 815 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: like quirky voices. So god, I love that. So it's 816 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna like change dramatically to I like what you're doing. 817 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: But I mean voiceovers are fun too because it's just 818 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: you and you're in a booth and like people can't 819 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: really see you, and you can make weird faces and 820 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: do weird things just to get into your body. So 821 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean I love voiceovers as well. It's um like 822 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: over live action and voiceover live action. I mean I 823 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: think that as like, Yeah, I mean I think like 824 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: acting in the physicality of it though too, and putting 825 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: all of it together. And also with live action you 826 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: work a little bit more with the team like with 827 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: voice over year recording by yourself most of the time. 828 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I love the getting to work as a 829 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: artist team and feed off of other people's energy. So 830 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: I do prefer that, but I think voiceover, especially during 831 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: the pandemic, was like the perfect thing. Yeah, and you're 832 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: a very lorobbly person with your dream role, is it 833 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: someone that's similar to you or is it someone that's 834 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: completely opposite. Oh, so my dream role for a long 835 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: time would not be like roles about like you know, 836 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: just people playing people on the spectrum or like playing 837 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: autistic individuals. For a long time, I was like, Okay, 838 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: like that's my dream role. But like now I've like 839 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, done some of about self refraction and I'm like, okay, 840 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: well that's like not appropriate, Like that's not my role 841 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: to play. So that's changed. I mean, that's another example 842 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: of how we change and critically think and like evolve 843 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: as humans. Um So I think my dream role has 844 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: changed now to like Leonardo DiCaprio and The Basketball Diaries, 845 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: that is my dream role. I don't know. It's a 846 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: very very dramatic. He's super drug addicted and like going 847 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: through rehab throughout the entire movie and keep slipping up, 848 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: and it's a very like charactery grunge role. And I 849 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: think that would be ideal because you do not see 850 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: when you don't see many women and roles like that. 851 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: You see a lot of men going through rules like that. 852 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, too many women portrayed. And then another type 853 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: of dreamer would be like a very charactery role, like 854 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: something Tim Burton wise, And once again there's not too 855 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: many women playing very charactery types. So I think that 856 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: one of those two would be like dream rolls for me, 857 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: something just very extreme fest girl. Let's put it out 858 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: in the universe. Do you believe in manifestation. I go 859 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: back and forth. I um, I mean you know, you know, cricket. 860 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: She always like teasing me about this, like I will, 861 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm don't manifest intentionally, but I like, I'm a big 862 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: daydreamercial just like daydream about things again and again and again, 863 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: and then it happens. And She's like, everything you want 864 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: like happens like in regards to I'm accidentally like manifest 865 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: just by thinking of I'm gon overthinker two so overthink 866 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: about things like again and again and again and again, 867 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: and then it kind of happens to be a manifestation. 868 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: I guess, So I don't believe in it intentionally. Um. 869 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: Something that I've also been like struggling with his finding 870 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: a balance between work, school, and social life and dating 871 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: in this day and age is so hard. Let alone 872 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: a pandemic. Let's forget about the pandemic. I can only 873 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: speak to my experiences. It is hard to date, especially 874 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: in this industry. Oh my goodness. Yeah, no, I mean, 875 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: I how do you have a mental sanity like just 876 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: dealing with it? Letting like what comes with cup? I mean, 877 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: I'll say, like I was pretty late to wanting to 878 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: date um. Yeah. I was pretty late to wanting to 879 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: have like a boyfriend or a relationship, um until I 880 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: was about like set, like almost eighteen, and then I 881 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: was like very like obsessed on the idea of like 882 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: I need a relationship, but I need a relationship like 883 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: all my friends were in what I needed on. Um. 884 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: So I got in a relationship and that we dated 885 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: over the pandemic, which made it, um, which made the 886 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: pandemic like easier. Feeling like that like yeah somebody, yeah exactly. Um. 887 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: But now that we we've been broken up throughout a 888 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: year now, wow, time like really flies. Um, I felix. 889 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: I was just like telling you, like, oh yeah, I 890 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: just got out of a relationship like that feels like 891 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: that was just yesterday. Um. But yeah, now that I've 892 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: had like a year of kind of figuring this is 893 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: like the first year I've been figuring out like how 894 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: to date in this industry, which is it's tough, it's 895 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: sticky too. And then I get a little hesitant to 896 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: date outside of the industry because I mean we've talked 897 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: about it plenty, like people kind of wanting you for 898 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: the motives. Yes, um yeah, I mean I think I've 899 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: found like to be honest, the like the best luck 900 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: still dating outside of the industry, but just like filtering 901 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: people out properly. I guess they're like really like trusting 902 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: when my parents are like, like, I don't get the 903 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: right like they are into you for the right reasons. Yeah, 904 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: how do you find the balance between filtering out the 905 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: fake people? There's quite a few, not to characterize, but 906 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: from my time in California New York, I've noticed more 907 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: big people in California. Yes, yes, but you filter that out. 908 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the biggest thing, too, is not 909 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: letting it affect you too much. I think I used 910 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: to be like very like offended. If I was like, 911 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, they were fake and they wanted like 912 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: I would like very I would take it very personally. Um. 913 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: And I've gotten a lot better at not taking things 914 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: as personally. UM. But I think that once you're out 915 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: here long enough, you just kind of see it from 916 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: a mile away. It's just it's not that hard. You 917 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: just get in the hang of it, and then it's 918 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: just kind of like you just don't. You just don't 919 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: pursue anything closer with those people. They're always gonna be there, 920 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: They're always going to be at the parties, like you 921 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: will always interact with them, but you don't need to 922 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: make anything deeper with them. I mean it's a process. Yeah. No, 923 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: I mean I think like the my bigger thing is 924 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: like I have a hard time with like mean or 925 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: entitled people out here, Like that's frustrating and like you 926 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: literally were with me as I was going through my 927 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: first ever i mean girl experience. So shout out to Sammy. 928 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: That's like kind of how we really want was the 929 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: most real and there for me. Um. So yeah, I 930 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: mean I think like it's more that that kind of 931 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: will bug me as that people who aren't fake but 932 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: are like intentional and how they're manipulative and stuff like that, 933 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: and call it out and they just like are okay 934 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: with them being in that way. It's not even like 935 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: them being like subtle about it. No, they're quite bold 936 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: about it. The people who do that. Yeah, I still 937 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: can't profit that. Yeah, but I mean, I mean I 938 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: think that like you've met so many people out here already, 939 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: like as you're living out here too, you know, I mean, 940 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: it just becomes easier and easier not to get caught 941 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: up with those people. I think the biggest thing is 942 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: you're not taking it personally like they're going through their 943 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: thing and just kind of let them be on their own. 944 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I love my alone time too, So that's 945 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: how I reset after interacting with people who maybe don't 946 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: align with my morals. Is I love alone time. I 947 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: love just going to the beach all day by myself 948 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: and reading a book and meditating, and like, yeah, I 949 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: definitely prioritize alone time kind of above when when I 950 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: have free time, I mean, I definitely make sure I 951 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: get my alone time done first. That's how you recharge. Yeah, 952 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: that is how I recharge. So I'm definitely an introvert 953 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: um and that's how I recharge. But I think also 954 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: that's important too, if you deal with fake people and 955 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: you're getting worn down by them, it's just kind of 956 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: touch and with like who you are and realize, oh, 957 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not fake at all, Like I'm I'm a real one. 958 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: You're a real one, and that's important and I'm just 959 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I am so glad that 960 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: we've met and become friends same because it's so rare 961 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: to find genuine people, but people that you're so similar to. Yeah, 962 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: I know people that it's like they're genuine, but also 963 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: you have stuff in common with and you can have 964 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: deep conversations with and that. Yeah, I mean, we felt 965 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: some like we have been kind of a long distance 966 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: friendship and fortunately we're still living on two different sides 967 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: of floss ange s, which sucks um. But I feel 968 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: like when we do see each other, like it's very 969 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: quality and I leave feeling very content and I feel 970 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: like I'm excited to continue. And I am so honored 971 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: that you came on. Everyone go follow Molly Jackson on Instagram, 972 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: Go check out her stuff. She is just the most incredible, 973 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: genuine person. Molly, thank you for coming on the podcast. 974 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. It was an 975 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: amazing time. I had so much fun. I could talk 976 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: to you for hours more. So we will, We will exactly. 977 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's 978 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: episode of the Let's Be Real Podcast. Molly, thank you 979 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. I love her so much. 980 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: If you want to follow her on Instagram, you absolutely should. 981 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: Her instagram is Molly Jackson, and also follow her film account. 982 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: She takes awesome picks on film and you should just 983 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: follow her account. Also subscribe to the let's be real 984 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: podcasts if you haven't already, and follow me on Instagram 985 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: if you want my instagrams, it's Sammy J. That's I 986 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: T S S A M M Y j A y E. 987 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: I hope you guys like this week's episode and I 988 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: will see you next week. Bye.