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Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to and That's what You're Really miss podcast the

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Speaker 3: season six cast.

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Speaker 4: Not everybody, Just Noah, Noah, Sweet Noah.

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Speaker 2: Voice of an angel. Crazy.

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Speaker 4: He is the craziest voice. The tone is just milk butter.

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Speaker 4: And he's an incredible songwriter, yes that's right, and a

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Speaker 4: wonderful person. The first time you heard him sing on

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Speaker 4: the show, we were all like, oh my god, it

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Speaker 2: You know, we're all used to each other's voices at

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Speaker 3: Just blows everybody through the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're like, oh, well, we have finally, like we've raised

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Speaker 2: This is great.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to for you guys to hear his experience

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Speaker 4: coming in as a new being season six at the

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Speaker 4: end of the beginning of the end.

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Speaker 3: So here's Noah, Hello, Hello, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: The undisputed best male vocalist and all of Glee.

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Speaker 1: Oh I got it. That's very sweet, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, and it's the truth the rest of us, but

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Speaker 2: like true, I mean, everybody says it.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: You came you came on, and it was like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Thank god, Oh don't worry. I was a pile of

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Speaker 3: Oh no, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you so much for being here. We've been

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Speaker 2: so excited to talk to you. Hard not to get

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Speaker 2: you on here like sooner, but we're like, let's wait

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Speaker 2: until we get Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it doesn't make any sense, of course.

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Speaker 3: Right, We're here, We're here here, we are just.

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Speaker 2: Starting awesome, and so we want to start with you

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Speaker 2: in terms of obviously your incredible vocalists. You are a

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Speaker 2: I felt this way for sure. I also think like

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Speaker 4: Of you, like acting, but you're acting as yourself, so

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Speaker 1: I really do think you I mean, I think weird. Really,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't have It wasn't like this big crucial

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Speaker 1: way for.

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00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: The rest of Yeah, that sounds right now.

439
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: Can we go back just like for one second you

440
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: said something that like I was like, oh my god, your.

441
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: Audition for Glee was on a stage.

442
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: It was on the like that's what I wanted to

443
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: the auditorium, I believe. So yeah, you know, at that time,

444
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: I didn't really put that together, but I'm.

445
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 4: Pretty sure it's like a tiny room with like you know,

446
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: fluorescent lighting, you know, stuff.

447
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: Like with with Robert and everything. You know, they kind

448
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: of like went over lines and stuff with me, but

449
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: like other than that, No, the one for Ryan was

450
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: like on.

451
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: The stage, so sorry, who was who?

452
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: And I can't remember his name for the life of me.

453
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: Who was the piano player that was there for So

454
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: it was Brad and me.

455
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: All of us be cast. He was an all of

456
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: our audition. He played for everybody, Yes, and was on

457
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: the show like that's nuts.

458
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: Yes, he's literally the best.

459
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 4: Do you remember now having them having you go into

460
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 4: the recording studio to do Mustang Sally?

461
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

462
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: I did you feel like a little more at home

463
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 4: doing something? I mean, do you still feel like really big?

464
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: Yes? And no, I mean I felt at home because

465
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: I was recording and like I'm used to that, but

466
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: I was also at Capital Studios. Oh my god.

467
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: And also I have to I have to like preface this.

468
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: So everywhere I went in Los Angeles, I I drove

469
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: around in a little like beat up convertible, like a

470
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: really beat up like twelve hundred dollars Pontiac ninety eight

471
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: Pontiac Sunfire convertible.

472
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: Incredible yep, with like sun spots all over it.

473
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a bullet hole in the side. It

474
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: was it was. I bought it out there for the trip,

475
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: you know.

476
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: Oh my God.

477
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Now I remember, like every time I would have to

478
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: go to set or have to go to the recording

479
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: studio or anything like that, I would pull in in

480
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: this just broken, just broke ass car, like next to

481
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: all these like Tesla's and land Rovers and stuff, and

482
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: I was just like here I am was.

483
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: Ian Brennan. Ian Brennan drove. I can't remember the car.

484
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: It must have been like it.

485
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: Was a Prius, I think.

486
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: No, before the Prius was a Toyota camera.

487
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: It was like Camri or Corolla.

488
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: Dolphin Silver ye. And there was a dead bee in

489
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: the trunk or in the bat rear window. And he

490
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: never every time we walk by it on the lot,

491
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: it was always still there, always still there.

492
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: And that car had seen better days. Yeah.

493
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: I would pull into Capital Studios in that just super

494
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: busted car and just feels so weird. Uh. And then yeah,

495
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: but I remember meeting Alex and and he was great,

496
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: and uh, I think we hit it off pretty well,

497
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: as I think he was.

498
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: He was happy to just have someone that could sing

499
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: and sing the song I was singing about that this

500
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: morning before we were talking to you. I was like, yeah,

501
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: because I wonder you take a note quickly I'm like

502
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: your pitch.

503
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Try yeah, Like, well, the thing is though, it was

504
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: a very different type of singing to what I do

505
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: because it was, you know, there's a lot more there's

506
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: a lot more acrobatics one just a lot more like

507
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: runs and trills and stuff, which is fine, but it's

508
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: just not I have kind of I always think of

509
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: my voice as very much like a it's kind of

510
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: like a cello, like it kind of has to warm

511
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: up to get to the to the note. So it's

512
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: hard for me to do like fast stuff. But I

513
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: do remember like one of the best compliments I ever

514
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: got was from Alex and it was we were during

515
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: a doing a session, and uh, he told me that

516
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like in passing to him,

517
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: but it made me feel really good, and he was

518
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: just like, it's fun when you're in here because it's

519
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of just like I just take the best take

520
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: that you do, Like we do like three or four takes,

521
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: and I just do the best one instead of having

522
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: to chop up a bunch of you know. Because there

523
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: was definitely some songs and stuff that I were really

524
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: hard for me. Actually, Mustang Sally was really hard for me,

525
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: even though it's kind of like in my vocal wheelhouse. Hm.

526
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: You know that songs by Wilson Pickett, and Wilson Pickett

527
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: is one of the best soul singers of all time

528
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: and he has these very like distinct super growy, raspy

529
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: high notes and I did try to get those so

530
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: many times and I just couldn't do it. And I

531
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: think I could do it now because I can, I

532
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: can kind of do them now, but like then, I

533
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: just could not get. I remember telling Alex like we

534
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: that was like the one time where I told her.

535
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, mann happen, Like, I'm not Wilson Pickett. Yeah,

536
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't smoke, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is

537
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: the seventies. So like but it was really really, uh

538
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: an incredible experience for me, and you know, it was

539
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: just so cool to go in there and get to

540
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: see everything and just kind of know that you're in

541
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: that weird circular building.

542
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it was also weird when we moved there. That

543
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: was the only season we were there and you recorded,

544
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: like the vocal booth was a very separate room and

545
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: there were like video monitors, yeah, talk between where Alex

546
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: was and where we were, which was also so strange. Yeah,

547
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: did you have a heart like for some of us

548
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: and for me, like sometimes like my voice doesn't necessarily

549
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: fit like the exact math that they sort of there.

550
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: Alex is very precise in his vocal production. And was

551
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: that hard for you, Like I had a hard time

552
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: because there was you know, there would be a demo

553
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: we'd match our guide vocal as closely as and like

554
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: really really really close.

555
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted it really close. I remember I tried

556
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: to do a few things on mine one time and

557
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: he was like, don't do that.

558
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess we're just gonna do it this way.

559
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: It was I wish I could remember who my demo

560
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: singer was, but like it was like this one guy

561
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: who I got every single time, who would every time

562
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: I got a demo and he was very good.

563
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: I wonder if it was Luke.

564
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it might have been Luke and he was.

565
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my voice cannot do it takes me so long,

566
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: like you had to like get there. I'm like, I

567
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: don't know how, yeah, exactly.

568
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: It's it's just something that's not you know, that type

569
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: of singing isn't always something that's naturally a thing that

570
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: comes to people you know, you do have to learn

571
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot of vocal stuff. So I mean Mustang Sally

572
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: was hard. It was really fun, but it was hard,

573
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: and and you.

574
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: Got to perform at the Holy Trinity and that also.

575
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: I also did not know what that meant.

576
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: I saw it in the school. Yeah, I saw it

577
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: in the scripts and I was like, okay, I don't

578
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: know what that means. And then we get to set

579
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: and they come up and I'm like, oh there, oh right.

580
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's more eye contact for you.

581
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: It is so much more eye contact. And it was

582
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: so hard.

583
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: Was how was that? Take me to Church?

584
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Very fun? Yeah. I remember they were like rumors on

585
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: set throughout the whole season that we were either going

586
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: to do that song or not going to do that

587
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: song because it was like blowing up at the time.

588
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: And I remember someone saying like, well, if we do it,

589
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get it, and I was like, okay, cool, great, awesome,

590
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: And I got it and it was really fun. And

591
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: the day of the shoot, I remember I had a

592
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I had a gig that night. I

593
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: had a gig at like Room five or something like that,

594
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: and I remember like I had to get like prior clearance,

595
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, to do it right so that it didn't

596
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: conflict with the show and everything. And it had been

597
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: scheduled for like two months and I had sold tickets

598
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: and stuff, so I remember, well, I did end up

599
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: working that day and I knew it was God was like, Okay, cool,

600
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: it's the take Me to Church shoot, So I'm gonna

601
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: literally be there all night long. I'm gonna have to

602
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: cancel the gig or whatever. And I remember they the

603
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: crew was like really sweet, and everybody really tried to

604
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: do their best to like get me out of there,

605
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: and they did. And the way they did that was

606
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I did pretty much everything except for uh, like the

607
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: very opening of that chorus where like I raised my

608
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: hands and the curtains come up and take me to church,

609
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, and my stand in, Michael McCrae did that

610
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: and it's like his favorite thing to point out now

611
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: and great, and it was just it's so funny because

612
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: like every time I see it now, I'm just like,

613
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: that's not me.

614
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 3: Very very rarely did that.

615
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: It was that. It was they must have really liked

616
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: you to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they

617
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: might have because they may have.

618
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: Just like messed up and for goof that you were

619
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: had an out and then they're like, all right totally

620
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: because there was it worked out.

621
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: I had a great show that night. And it's honestly

622
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: I have Michael to think for that.

623
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm Luke said he did do your guide vocals?

624
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh really very cool? Yeah, man, well tell him he

625
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: terrified me. He was so good, so good.

626
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of new people, newbies that come in

627
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: in season six in like kind of your debut debut episode.

628
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: Right, you're saying the episode, did it.

629
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 4: Feel feel nice to have people who were also new

630
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: with you?

631
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: Did you guys bond? What was that experience?

632
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: Like it was?

633
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: I think it worked out the best way it could

634
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: because we were all we were all very scared and

635
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: we ended up being very close, and I mean pretty

636
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: much after pretty much after every rap, we would end

637
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: up at Billie's house. We would end up over there

638
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: and just all kind of decompress together and just about

639
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: like hey this was cool, or like hey that was weird,

640
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: because you know, it's like every day was different and

641
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: there were some really awesome days and there were some

642
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: really not great days. And there you know, everybody, I

643
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: think that I was unprepared for how long the days were,

644
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: you know, I think we were adding it up. At

645
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: one point when we were there, was like a it's

646
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: like middle of the season. We were all super homesick

647
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: and just kind of trying to not be weird, yea

648
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: depressed because we're like, well, we're also on like a

649
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood show. We shouldn't be depressed. But you know, it's

650
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: just like it was a lot and we were adding

651
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: it up. One day, I was like, have we been

652
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: here for sixteen hours today? And Billy is like, yeah, man,

653
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: yeah we have. We've been in this box for so long. Wow.

654
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, you literally are just going

655
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: to a big box for ever. And it was I

656
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: remember having a lot of really good times though, because

657
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: me and uh Me and Billy were probably and I think,

658
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean maybe we still are the closest of that group,

659
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I guess, but I mean we started bringing the football

660
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: and all sorts of stuff. Is trying like keep spirits up,

661
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, especially like we had so many scenes where

662
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: we weren't the main focus of the scene, but we

663
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: had to be there. So you know, you're literally just.

664
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: Like sitting in a chair over and over.

665
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: And over maybe giving a look here and there, and

666
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: that's about it. So then we would do that, We're

667
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: all right, cool, it's good, a candy bar and go

668
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: throw the pigskin, you know.

669
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: Yep, And it was a lot of fun. Those little

670
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: things helped keep your sanity through those law for sure.

671
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: It really was nice. And yeah, I mean, any you know,

672
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: any days off we had, we'd just go and explore

673
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: as much as we could. I remember we went to

674
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: I had my twenty first birthday on set and they

675
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: made me a cake, which was great. And I remember

676
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: me and Billy and Laura Dreyfuss went to we rented

677
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: this really great house up in I want to say Summerville,

678
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: Summerville maybe anyway, coastal Town. It was beautiful, and I

679
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: just remember, like I don't know, just spending my birthday

680
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: like on the waves and just like having a super

681
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: low key thing and then going back to a set

682
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: and I just felt super refreshed, and everybody's just you know,

683
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, vibes were high. Yeah, So yeah, but

684
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: it was crucial, I think for me to have people

685
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: that were also kind of thrown into this crazy scenario

686
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: at the same time, because we all really didn't know

687
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: what to expect.

688
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: What imagine like for you guys, like you're coming up

689
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: on the end of our show, right, and we've been through,

690
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: you know, a.

691
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: Lot good end of the roller coaster.

692
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: The crew has been there since the beginning. We've got

693
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: cast coming in and out. So it's a lot to

694
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: take on, right, because you guys are the ones there

695
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: all the time. We're coming in and out, you know,

696
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: but you're there with the crew kind of in it,

697
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: but you're new at it.

698
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: So that must have been like a lot.

699
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: It's kind of like reliving the what we experienced in

700
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: the beginning in some ways where.

701
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: You're just like, it feels very similar all the hangouts afterwards,

702
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: figuring out what's going on, how are you handling it?

703
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Adjusting to the sixteen hour.

704
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: Days every dingy had like our whole dynamic on top

705
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: of that for them, you know what I mean, it's

706
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 4: that's so so crazy.

707
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: It's not really a lot there to you guys in

708
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, because like you know, when Cord

709
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: and Darren came in, yeah, we were there more so

710
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 2: like we could sort.

711
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: Of guide Shepherd, yeah, yeah, and like.

712
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Look, this is what's going to happen. Give you a

713
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: lay of the land. But by season six, I think

714
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 2: if we weren't already mentally checked out, we were physically

715
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 2: checked out a lot of the times you weren't there, Yeah,

716
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: and a lot, but we spoken to a lot of crew,

717
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: and you guys left such a great impression on everybody.

718
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: Everybody loved you guys, and like we've genuinely loved that crew,

719
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: like very much, the best, the best.

720
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really did feel very invited and and into

721
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: that family, and you know, yeah, I think it was

722
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure it probably did mirror a little bit of

723
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: what you guys went through when the show first started.

724
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: But it was also like whenever you guys were on set,

725
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: we you know, we didn't know. You don't know what

726
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: the dynamic is, you know, who to talk to or

727
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: if it's like okay to talk to you know, like

728
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: because you guys are great, like you just never know.

729
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: Of course, it's like anybody else. You see somebody else

730
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: that you've seen on TV the open, You're like, probably

731
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't say anything to them, they don't want to talk

732
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, So we just didn't know what to do.

733
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: But you know, it got easier and easier and I

734
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: really did. I mean the crew really made a huge

735
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: difference in that. Yeah, just seeing like the same familiar

736
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: faces every day, and you know, you build a relationship

737
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: with these people.

738
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the ones to really look out for you

739
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: and like take care of you and you're there, like

740
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: every department there, they did it for us and that's

741
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: how we learned things from them. They'd be like sixteen

742
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: hour days like this are not normal, or you know,

743
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: like other things and so yeah, it was I'm so

744
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: glad that you guys had them the way we did.

745
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it was good. Kevin Ronan always made

746
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: sure I had allergy medicine.

747
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: Oh he was.

748
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: He was like on it. He like saved me from

749
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: a couple of panic attacks a couple of times. He was.

750
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: Everybody was. Everybody was great.

751
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, you really find the ones and that like you

752
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: kind of connect with and you just like called on

753
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: to them, you know.

754
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: When the show started airing, because you said, you know,

755
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: you were all very anxious or nervous to see what

756
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: the fans thought about you. What did you feel when

757
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: the show started airing.

758
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: We all had a watch party together. Just think that

759
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: was the way to do it, right. Yeah, let's do it,

760
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, and uh. I remember Billy saying something when

761
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: we had watched it, and he's a really he's a character.

762
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: He's great. I love him to death. He was like

763
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: the first thing he said, like we all watched it,

764
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: and you know, we had like our little things like oh,

765
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: look you did that, and you know, you know, you

766
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: did so good, and like, oh, it wasn't that bad.

767
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: But at the end of it, like like the credits

768
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: came on and Bially was like, well, I guess that's

769
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: what I did forever and there it is and there

770
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: it is forever ever. I was like, oh man, yeah, yeah,

771
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: it's I think I think most of all it was

772
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: it was a pretty good experience. I don't think there

773
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: was anything like too cringe worthy for us at that time.

774
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: I do remember one time. This wasn't like the first time.

775
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't the first episode that we watched the air,

776
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: but it was like in the middle of the season.

777
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: There was at some point I remember like saying, so

778
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: I was like, you can see we have like full

779
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: five o'clock shadow in like a couple of these.

780
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: Like there, yeah, that's what that's you know. One of

781
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: the negatives of a sixteen hour day. Yeah, I remember

782
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: the first season, my first solo they shot, you know,

783
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: you do the numbers in like a lot of different

784
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: areas in the school, like going down the hallway, and

785
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: then it finished on the auditorium stage. By the time

786
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: we got to the auditorium stage at the end of

787
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: the day, I fully had like the mustache going back

788
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: in and sure it's like, oh, I'm supposed to be

789
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: sixteen fifteen.

790
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: You and your dry shade.

791
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

792
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 4: Did you guys start getting recognized like quickly in la

793
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: or were you kind of like in the bubble of

794
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 4: Glee filming.

795
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we got recognized a good bit,

796
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: especially the first like couple episodes that were airing.

797
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: Especially if you're all hanging out together, going out together.

798
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: That was also like pretty obvious.

799
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 6: You know.

800
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: We would go like to you know, the grove or

801
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: something and people would hey, I just saw you, you know.

802
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that was that was also like

803
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: less weird than I thought it would be.

804
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: And I mean you came from performing like toying around,

805
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: so you at least had some you had experience talk.

806
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: To people that like my music all the time, so

807
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it was deal, you know, but but it

808
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: was weird, especially like just to not be in my

809
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: hometown and that be the case.

810
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: You know, crazy.

811
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm curious how, like after Glee ended, how your experience

812
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: ugly or like your songwriting was affected by Yeah, the show.

813
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: That's interesting. It's a good question.

814
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: He was like, that's what I do not want to do. No,

815
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: it's really not like after this show like I'm never

816
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: writing back.

817
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: I am at all. No, I would say, I mean,

818
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: if anything, it probably helped me because I think you

819
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: do and you know you do this with any kind

820
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: of listening, but like you do pick up little things

821
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: here and there, even if you're not consciously thinking about it.

822
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: You kind of absorb different ways of creating. And I

823
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: would say it definitely. It definitely honed my sense of

824
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: like attension grabbing, like you you know, finding a good hook,

825
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: like you have to you know, you have to like

826
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: reel people in within the first like thirty seconds, right,

827
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: A lot of that kind of stuff. I'm sure you know.

828
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: At the time. Again, when when it ended, I was

829
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: like twenty one, so I'm sure I thought I knew

830
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: everything about everything, so like I probably would if you'd

831
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: asked me then i'd be like nah do, but no,

832
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure that it helped. I'm sure that it has

833
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: had a mark on my music for sure, because I

834
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: mean it. I just don't see how it couldn't have

835
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: for sure.

836
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, even like technically, like have you noticed the difference, Well,

837
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: did you notice the difference in like how you would record?

838
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: I would notice a difference in how it's sing. Oh yeah, yeah,

839
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: I would. I came home and I had a band.

840
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I mean I still technically have that band, but like

841
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: you know, I had a band that I was working

842
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: with a lot, and I remember after I came home,

843
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: I would just sing differently, sing with more, with with

844
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: more finesse, and with more like.

845
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: Just like doff, you know, because I'm very.

846
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Much like a I'm I'm a big believer of just

847
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of let the song do the do the talking.

848
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: You know, you don't really need to, like, if you

849
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: have a great voice, awesome, but like you don't, I

850
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: don't need you to like jump around and do a

851
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: bunch of flashy stuff if if the song is good enough.

852
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Story right, But I definitely I think it honestly, you

853
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: know what, I bet it helped my live show more

854
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: than anything. I think it probably did help me like

855
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: open up a little bit more on stage and just

856
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: be more comfortable with doing things on stage that before

857
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: probably just felt like too awkward or anything. And I'm

858
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: talking like the bare Bones you're talking about like getting

859
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: the audience to participate in a song, you know, or

860
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: something like that. Just stuff like that, but just wasn't

861
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: really a thought for me. Definitely, it definitely had an

862
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: effect on just my entertainment side of things, you know.

863
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: So when I would take the band out, I would

864
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: make sure to like I was thinking a lot more

865
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: about Okay, well this section of the song, like I

866
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: really want to, like let's bring it down here, and

867
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: I want to like really give it like one on

868
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: one to these people in this moment where like, hey,

869
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: I am going to hit this weird high note that

870
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: probably doesn't need to go there, but like people are

871
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: going to love it right right. Yeah, So like I

872
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: did learn how to do that. I would say that

873
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: that in America's Got Talent kind of taught me that

874
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: as well, because you have such a short amount of

875
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: time to like emote to people and you want to

876
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: like give them, you know, the money note really.

877
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, show them what you can do as quickly

878
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: as possible. You guys did come in at a weird time. Yeah,

879
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: the show probably, and you probably felt that. I'm sure

880
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: there's no way to not feel that. Yeah, it was

881
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: strange the show. The very end of the show, you know,

882
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: we were all coming back. It was very emotional. How

883
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: did that feel? I mean, you guys were having your

884
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: own experience like you guys had been there this entire season,

885
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: regardless of what you know, the ending of the show

886
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: meant for us. How was that for you guys, Because

887
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's you have this bond where, like you know,

888
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 2: the way we bonded, the way you guys bonded, where

889
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: you have those people who are going through the exact

890
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: same experience as you. It's such a gift to be

891
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: able to share all of that with somebody else. So

892
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: when it came to the end, Yeah, what was your guys' experience?

893
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: What was your experience?

894
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Like it was very emotional, I remember it was. There

895
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit more of that kind of feeling

896
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: of Okay, well, I don't know, you know, like I'm

897
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I definitely feel emotional about this, Like this was a

898
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: big thing in my life, and you know, I've made

899
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: all these friends, I've made this family, and I don't know,

900
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm going to see these people again

901
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So there's definitely that, But there

902
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: was also the you know, we all we were very

903
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: conscious of this being like I kind of like to

904
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: think of it as like me and the newbies were

905
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: closing a chapter and you guys were closing a book, right,

906
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: so like you guys were like wrapping up a whole

907
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: thing that you have, Like I mean, these were this

908
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: was your life for so long, and this was our

909
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: life for this short amount of time, and it was special.

910
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: But we were very conscious of you guys, and you know,

911
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: how to try and be I remember there we we

912
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's not we didn't like plan on how

913
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: to act or anything around you guys. But I remember

914
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: like having a few discussions with the new new guys

915
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: just about like, you know, imagine how this must feel

916
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: for these people and you know, everybody that's been on

917
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: the show forever.

918
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 6: And that's very thoughtful because well, I mean, I don't know,

919
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 6: it just seemed and you know, I think those final

920
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 6: moments you do kind of have the full cast and

921
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 6: everybody around and everybody's you know, hanging out and reminiscing

922
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 6: and you hear stories and you hear different things.

923
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: And and yeah, I mean you just kind of know

924
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: that again, this is like a whole saga that's coming

925
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: to an end, right, And that's a huge deal in

926
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: any kind of scenario like that, It's a huge deal

927
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: for somebody. So, uh, it was weird. It was kind

928
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: of like, I mean, I remember I cried my eyes out,

929
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: but I felt weird crying my eyes out around you

930
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: guys crying about a whole different thing. And I'm crying

931
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: probably because you guys are crying.

932
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: But yeahs were so high, but you know, like an

933
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: important chapter for everybody.

934
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: I went through so much, you know, like it wasn't

935
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: just the show, it was just like everything around it.

936
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, I mean, how do you not

937
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: that's a part of you.

938
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: You guys are always so respectful and sweet, and yeah,

939
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear it.

940
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: It's also so interesting like on that final day you

941
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: probably met a lot.

942
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: Of people you had and met before were on the show.

943
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: You know, like I think about like JUSTLN and like

944
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: row Me and you know, all the people who were

945
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: kind of around but you didn't really get to work with.

946
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really weird. And I also just remember

947
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: like meeting a lot of like the writers and stuff

948
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: that I had never interacted with, and like these are

949
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: people that wrote lines for me and I just never

950
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: knew or like you know, different directors and different I

951
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: think I met not I met him before, but I

952
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: met Ian really that night, like good you know or whatever,

953
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: and I just remember, like, man, you are You're something else.

954
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really liked Yeah, just like he was.

955
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: He was on a different planet, you know for sure.

956
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 2: Yes, that's I think.

957
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: At some point, Kevin, I think me and you hung

958
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: out together at some point, like in a group of people.

959
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't remember where or when that was.

960
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: I remember being around you guys a lot in general.

961
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: That makes sense, Like I always, I feel like I

962
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: don't remember what happened this season, like we're just starting it,

963
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: and so I'm interested to see because I feel like

964
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: I spent so much time with you guys.

965
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: I feel like you did too, because you like told.

966
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: Me about it, yeah, and like you were also you

967
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: like knew everybody, and I feel like it was there

968
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: for maybe the beginning in the end, but like I

969
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: feel like you were like mashed in there Kevin a

970
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: lot more than I was so but.

971
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: I wasn't when like Phineas showed up and like I

972
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: wasn't there for.

973
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: That, right right, But it was, Yeah, it was.

974
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: It was interesting. I think.

975
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: Fun experience because we don't know what we're getting into six,

976
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: because our memory is terrible. We've been asking the fans

977
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: a lot about things we should look for, look forward

978
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 2: to watch out for. They love the love you guys.

979
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm so glad they love you. You were terrified of that.

980
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: I get it.

981
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: I would be too, I get it.

982
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know, and I don't know. I had

983
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: heard a rumor and I don't know. I have no

984
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: idea if it's true or not. But like when we

985
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: had first gotten on set, I had heard that like

986
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: the fan base, like the season five people had to

987
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: grow on the fan base, and yeah, we were terrified

988
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah sure, but we I remember thinking, like

989
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: after the first episode aired, we had like nothing but

990
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: good comments and stuff like that. We were very very had.

991
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: People really took to you guys.

992
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: I think you guys had the benefit of the first

993
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 2: like group of newbies, the writers. I think we're figuring

994
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: out how do we do this, and there was a

995
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: lot of mimicking the characters that were already on the

996
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: show to sort of have it look like you know,

997
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: season one. Yeah, and that didn't really work. And I

998
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: think what fans have told us about you guys is

999
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: that you're all so different, not trying to be anything else,

1000
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: and you're all very interesting, and the characters are deep

1001
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: and loved watching you guys, and so it's very exciting

1002
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: for us. They go into this like, Okay, great.

1003
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Great, great, remember thinking it was really cool when I

1004
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: didn't know, and I still it's hard for me to do.

1005
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: But like one of the biggest things for me with

1006
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: acting was just like trying to figure out how to

1007
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: be my character and not just say things like I

1008
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: would say them or or you know thing. And I

1009
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: remember Michael Hitchcock really helped me with that a lot

1010
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: in the fact that he was very close to me

1011
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: on set and would like get to know me well

1012
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: so that he wrote my stuff. He's awesome.

1013
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: He really like like took you guys under his wing.

1014
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, he very much did. I think he really

1015
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: he was a huge help. Him and Joaquin and and

1016
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of people.

1017
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: They're good at looking out for people.

1018
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very good. I get I get messages from

1019
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: those two all the time, you know, and they're still

1020
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: very much in contact. And but yeah, I mean, you know,

1021
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: he like learned. They were really good at learning our

1022
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: personality traits and what we were comfortable with and what

1023
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: we weren't comfortable with. So every time I got a

1024
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: script it did it just felt like something I would say, anyway,

1025
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: that's great, thanks.

1026
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 4: A good writer.

1027
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, before we let you.

1028
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 4: Go, Oh, we had a question and we asked everybody,

1029
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: and that is what is the feeling that Glee leaves

1030
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: you with.

1031
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not gonna be able to say it just

1032
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: in one word. I'm really bad at that. I would say,

1033
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean mostly joyful. I would say, you know, there's

1034
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: a the whole experience as a whole, like as a package,

1035
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: was a lot of learning and a lot of ups

1036
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: and downs. But I think overall, I was very grateful.

1037
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: I was very just every time I see the show,

1038
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: like even you know, like preparing for this, I watched

1039
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: like the first episode or two of that season, and

1040
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, even just seeing it just makes me smile,

1041
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, like it just it just brings this kind

1042
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: of joyfulness to me. And I think some of that is,

1043
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, Glee in a lot of ways brought up

1044
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 1: and handled a lot of the issues that I dealt

1045
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: with in high school that just not talked about. And

1046
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: you know, obviously that it happened at a time when

1047
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: we were all kind of experienced a pretty a pretty

1048
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: big cultural shift in the country, and and I just

1049
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: think that it brought a lot of things to light

1050
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: that needed to be brought to light and talked about.

1051
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: And that always makes me feel really happy. It just

1052
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: makes me feel good to know that, you know, even

1053
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the show has its flaws like everything,

1054
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 1: but I do think that it's like a net good

1055
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: and I think that it really especially from my experience

1056
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: of talking with fans of the show, because you know,

1057
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm a fan of the show because I

1058
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: was on the show, right more fans of the show

1059
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: because the show like touched them to the core. You know,

1060
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: I have people talk to me at shows and stuff

1061
00:57:53,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: that are so deeply affected by Glee and the kind

1062
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: of message that it brought that it was like life

1063
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: changing for these people, and uh, yeah, I don't know,

1064
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: it's just really special to be a part of something

1065
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: like that.

1066
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: Couldn't have said it better myself.

1067
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: Glee was very lucky to have you in the season

1068
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: six cast. We're very excited to dive into this and

1069
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: like experience it with you guys again, because I feel

1070
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: like I missed a lot of it and it's just

1071
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 4: like a It's just.

1072
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: It's such a crazy time capsule for everybody. For us,

1073
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 3: it was just a little bit longer, you know, maybe

1074
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: a lot longer, but even.

1075
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: I heard like it's even the little things too. It's

1076
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: like I heard my voice on one of these episodes

1077
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, why does it sound like that?

1078
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: Why do I sound that way?

1079
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

1080
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: What it was ten years ago?

1081
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, exactly.

1082
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like a little yeah exactly. Time capsule

1083
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: is a great word for it.

1084
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Tell people about you put out a song this year.

1085
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have a I've got a new song

1086
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: out right now. It's called Route Down, and yeah you

1087
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: can find it, you know wherever you get your music

1088
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: these days. I'm touring, I'm I'm all over the country

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Speaker 1: this year and then working on a new album right now.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, incredible. Go go get some Noah tickets. Go

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Speaker 2: see no alive, Go stream route down, please down. His

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Speaker 2: personality is as sweet as his voice. Go see and

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Speaker 2: support He's incredible. Thank you so much, Noah.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Noah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. I hope you guys are will

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 3: What is sweet soul?

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Speaker 2: Sweet soul true? He's great. Go go stream his music,

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Speaker 2: go see him on tour. He really is just the best,

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Speaker 2: and it was so nice having him on set.

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Speaker 4: It was he was a very calm presence. And now

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Speaker 4: we know that he was a ball of nerves, but

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Speaker 4: really it seemed calm.

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Speaker 2: It never came out.

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Speaker 3: And they were just so wonderful and so nice every time.

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Speaker 3: I remember like talking to like Billy and Laura. I

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Speaker 3: knew Laura a little bit and him.

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Speaker 4: They were just always like so grateful to be there,

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Speaker 4: and obviously you hear it from them too, like the

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Speaker 4: days are long, and it didn't.

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Speaker 3: Really you know, that didn't really change.

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Speaker 4: So interesting and kind of comforting to know that, like

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Speaker 4: everybody who was in it together, so.

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Speaker 2: And company, yeah company, to know they also had each

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Speaker 2: other throughout.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's key. Thanks for listening to Noah.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Noah for taking the time, And I hope you

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Speaker 4: guys enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 2: And That's what you really missed. Thanks for listening, and

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Speaker 2: follow us on Instagram at and That's what you really

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Speaker 2: miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and

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Speaker 2: leave us five stars. See you next time.