WEBVTT - Nick Faldo 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:06.080 Welcome to the Player Series. I'm Gary Player, and throughout 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.080 the series we're going to take you through incredible stories, 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:15.680 conversations with legends and current players, perspectives on current events 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:22.360 in and around golf, and much more. Well, I'm joined 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.680 by my dear friend, Sir Nick Falder, one of the 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.760 great players of our time, and very excited to be 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.800 speaking to him. His knowledge is fantastic. He has had 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.280 an awful lot of experience, particularly when it comes to Augusta. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.680 And Nick, what I want to know is, there's a 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.559 lot of excitement coming up to Augusta. What do you 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.400 see happening? What's exciting from your point of view, Well, 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.440 there's so much excitement. I mean, obviously we're coming off 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:56.560 a November Masters, which was obviously very unique and um, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.160 you know, the golf course was soft. Dustin john Some 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.880 played great. He was he was the favorite that week, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.440 probably the most comfortable, you know. I was able to 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.960 walk the range and it was obvious there was a 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.959 lot going on last year. Bryson's Chambo, bryson d Chambo, 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.800 I should say it was was there with carrying all 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.640 the attention of now hitting the golf ball miles three 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.560 hundred I was there on the range watching him get 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.960 two hundred miles and now ball speed and then carrying 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.800 it three seventies six, which is basically was in the 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.960 bushes at the end of their wonderful practice facility. So 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.200 we had that going on at the same time. I 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.800 walked down the range to Dustin Johnson. He was like, 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.920 what's going on up there. That's how he's hitting at 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.199 three seventy through the air and he Dustin say, I've 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.200 got a forty seven at forty eight inch drive. He said, 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.160 I can hit it three forty through the airs, but 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:52.720 I don't want to. I just like to hear him 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.320 it didn't because it's dinky. I like to dink it 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.080 out there three twenty three. And I'm like, yeah, yes, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.920 me so. And I could tell he was confident, and 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.520 I challenged to his brother it was a great line 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.799 from him, and I said, I actually asked him what's 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.119 he working on and then you know his short game, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.760 and he said to me it was quite a statement. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.640 He said, you know, he's he's the best field player 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.959 on tour. And I thought, wow, that's quite a statement. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.880 So he said, I can give him a bad yardage 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.120 and a bad club and he can land that wedge 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.919 in the right place. And so I thought, I thought, wow, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.520 that's that was an interesting call. And sure enough he 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.400 then went on and he looked good and once he 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.280 found his rhythm, especially on that Sunday, that Sunday morning, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.519 he came out like anybody, a little little shaky for 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.640 a couple of holes. Once he belted one drive and 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.920 got the rhythm going then and that was it was 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.120 his Master's So that was special November. We've only had 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:49.120 five months in between it. Um, So off we go again, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.640 and it's going to be kind of similar story is 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.000 you know the Masters is um, you know we were 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.440 we would deem that you've got to be a the 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.960 longer golfers are going to have a slightly advantage of 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.120 the tea. You know, if they're longer down there, you've 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.480 got less club anything. Any time you're getting less than 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.760 a you know, eight times in your hand, then you 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.840 can stop the ball how, how and where you intend 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.679 to That's that's the Masters. If you're six isnes of 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.320 fire bind in your hand, then you've got to look 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.760 for a different landing spot and a different where it's 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.080 going to finish. So it will make a huge difference, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.280 so that the longer hitters are going to have an 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:35.000 advantage on their strategy and everything. So and there's plenty 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.720 of them, Gary, as we know, there's there's many players, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.360 even the skinny ones. You know, you can hit it 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.560 out there and get it to run, and get it 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.200 to run up to three fifty. That is the amazing thing. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.440 So that's what's really change the game. But as we 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.840 know the Masters, if the golf was, if the greens 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.640 are firm, then even even with a short line in 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.520 your hand, is still going to be sensible. So it's 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.760 we love it. We love the test that they present 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.760 for us every year with Nick. If you look last 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.280 week and I think, and you know, I'm a great 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.720 fan of deschambro He's a gentleman and a lot of 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.560 people were very critical of him. Here comes the kuk, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.880 here comes the scientist. Now that Sho was on the 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.120 other foot, this guy's got a wonderful golf swing and 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.960 a wonderful short game. And the Arnor Parmer Tournament so 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.599 much was spoken about. In fact, the whole show was 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.600 about his long hitting. And yet Westward, who put his 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.960 ball in a divot in the last hole and couldn't 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.839 shoot at the fat made a five on a part 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.520 five with a seven nine in his hand on he 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.440 lost by one shot. And I said to this one guy, 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.120 well here, how far was he had driving westward? By 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.440 said ninety yards? Well, I said, the way you're talking, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.000 he should have beaten him by twelve to fifteen shot, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.680 but he didn't. So it's still to me, Yes, long 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.479 hitting is a great asset. W nobody would ever deny that. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.800 But if we look carefully, why deschambro One that week 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.640 was not because of his long hitting, was because of 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.279 his patting. He holds, so he puts, and he's got 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:10.040 to have a great mind. Nick. As you know, superstars, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.640 and I think, personally my own personal opinion, you've got 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.880 to win six majors to be a superstar. People use 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.040 the word superstar too lightly. All of those guys had 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.560 a special mind, a very very special mind. There was 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.840 something called it. And can you just just defying it? No? 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.680 Can an analyst, can anybody? And no, it's it's something 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:34.279 that is just what's words indefinable? Is it indefinable? I 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.000 think so it's gonna be interesting to see. I think 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.520 a lot of guys I've got a good chance. I'd 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.719 love to see Rory come out and win the grand 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.719 stand would be very very good for golf. Um. You 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.000 know Justin Thomas, I love the way he gets through 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:54.080 the ball. He's a wonderful golfer. You've got then you've 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.040 got Dustin Johnson who feels very confident there. So there 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.040 are a lot of fellows that can win. So is 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.960 going to be a very very exciting Masters. You're right, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.320 there's a lot of players who carry you. Justin Thomas 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.599 looked very impressive some of those swings he made. I 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:14.680 mean TPC saw grasses are very narrow golf course. It's 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.200 very small greens and you know some of those shots 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.039 and it's amazing. And they don't know when the last 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.359 time you played TPC, but you know the ninth Old 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.159 Gary for us in my day was was a drive, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.240 good drive and the three iron over to the right 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.200 hand tree and you had to get the right angle 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.040 to get aware. You're a chippy nine nine on you 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.919 for your third in the cross Breeds and now they 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.440 now they go, I mean it's a hitting the tittinger 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.480 iron over the trees over the left entry, same as 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.040 they do it hilt in the head. Now the same 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.800 what is that? That's the same whole fifteen hole at 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.360 hilt in the head, the same style a whole. They 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.279 now hit that. Those trees are even higher and it's 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.719 like never in a million years, but it was a 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.400 three shop five for us. And now they get there. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.559 You can't believe they can get iron over those trees 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.359 at times. So so that's the that's the change of 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:09.040 the game. Equipment, the golfer, the golfers. It's a true athlete. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.560 I mean, Gary, you started this a million years ago 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:18.440 pumping iron down in you know, weightlifting, when people said 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.880 you can't be a weightlift you know, and you you 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.320 took a huge to be honest, you took a huge 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.280 risk because we didn't have the science there and we didn't. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.440 We didn't. You just did it. You did it to 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.080 just get strong. Now they know how to the science 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:34.080 to get spitter, faster, stronger. That is the huge difference 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.360 now we know you Nowaday, we were all told against 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.600 because of our equipment. People don't realize why didn't we 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.360 hit it further well with an old persimmon head, chunk 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.000 of word, a steel shaft, a rubber golf ball, um, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.600 which wasn't always round. You know, people don't realize, they 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.760 don't realize that wow, even you know, even I carried 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.240 a ring gage the double check that quote somewhere of 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.600 somewhere knock round someone was slightly bigger than the others, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.000 you know, so we had to double check, and we 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.600 didn't know the science in our equipment. Then it felt good, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.680 It looked good and felt good, but we didn't know, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.400 and we adapted to the club. That's and now you 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.560 used to hit a driver and you go a little go, 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.400 a little right up, and it looks good. And the 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.640 guys I don't want to reach shafted again because if 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.680 I cracked their head, you know I could. And he said, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.440 all right, I'll use it. I know when I get nervous, 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:26.920 this one will go a little to the right or 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.960 and so you compensate. We learned, you know. So now 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.240 you stand up, make swings, and they build the clubs 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.760 to you absolutely perfect, and you don't have to know 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.520 diddly about your golf clubs. Your technician will give you. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.679 You'll hit the balls, a technician will tell you what 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.520 to do, how to do it, and you walk away 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.080 with a set of clubs that matches you and your 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.440 swing absolutely perfectly. So and the kids can get this 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.000 a college. Now, that's the other amazing thing that the 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.400 rubbish we used in our early days apps at rubbish 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:03.320 the clubs were compared to now. Yeah, so that all 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.360 those things have made a huge difference to the quality 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.320 of the golf and why we've got you know why 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.880 the golf is the way it is in Well, there's 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.080 I played yesterday and I'm playing with the man and 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.800 he's hooking the ball. He takes out a spinner and 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:25.000 he changes fade. Yeah, I was, I was hitting balls. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:26.599 I went to I went to Taylor Maid and I 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.959 did you know just exactly what you can do? I 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.720 go and I said, look, I haven't got anything that's 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.600 fit me for a set of clubs they fit. So 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.840 I've got a fire wood that just keeps going left. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.199 And the guy just goes and puts a little moves 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.719 the center gravity around inside it for me, I mean 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.960 moves moves that and then I now so and then 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.200 hit a little face. I had a fight. Would I 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.959 couldn't it would just I said, how come I hit 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.959 shot good? Shot? Three? Would? And then I would left 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.720 I would left foot and he goes, it, gives it 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.079 to me about and then goes and it goes and 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.400 I go and it. Next thing, I went to p 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.120 h G and I was trying to hit the ball 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.080 with the draw, which I have to in my age, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.400 and Ill kempt in in the board the cut and 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.040 the next shot you start drawing. Actually it's hard. You 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.360 can never explain to people the equipment we use. And 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.800 that brings me back to Bobby Jones. Bobby Jones must 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.760 have been the most incredible golfer. He played with a 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.080 walking stick with a shaft, no grooves of the club, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.880 a golf ball. They win eight yards list. They never 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.560 changed the pending. Every day you rate the bankers with 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.000 your feet. They never had most to cut the green 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.760 in the fairways. And what a golfer he was. Yeah, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.560 I saw a swing I love looking at obviously Twitter 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.800 or TikTok or whatever. You know, they had a swing 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.280 of Bobby Jones the other day. And because of because 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.280 of Hickory, you know, you've got to wait for it, 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:53.040 have you, and you get this wonderful syrup swing and 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.240 if you pull up, I was gonna blurt. U was 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.280 doing the commentary yesterday. I was going to blurt out 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.079 into the kids, pull up the old the old foot is. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:06.080 Pull up Walter Hagen. Walter Hagen swings a hundred years 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.920 old now and please tell me if you come if 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.160 it's not good or better. But what is different to 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.599 today's golfer? Put Walter in um put him meant some 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.040 polyester with a white belt and they look fantastic, you know, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.360 And you know, honestly what I really it's one of 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.960 the most irritating things that occur with me at the 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.840 stage of my life. I keep hearing young players say 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.240 we're working on the modern swing. I'm dying to hear 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.000 just one thing anyone. I'm not. That's what I mean. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.640 That's what I mean. Well, look, pull out Walter Hagen 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:42.559 and tell me I would you can't. I can't falt it, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.160 gets gets the left heel loft the ground. You know, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.720 he's got his long, beautiful back swing. He's got almost 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.120 like he's elite travin no extension through I mean, and 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.559 chases after it does a Gary player walk through. I mean, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.240 it's a it's a it's a vision. But Nick, what 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.480 is it that they think that there's that's a modern swing? 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.680 Everything They tried, was tried a hundred years ago. There's 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.960 nothing that they didn't try a hundred years ago. Nothing. Well, well, yeah, 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.440 I agree, I agree a dent because you know, if 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.280 you you know, as I as you get older, you 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:18.840 know I did obviously, Look, I did a lot of 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.000 work with my golf swing, you know. And when you're 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.240 when you're talented and you hitting gold pools every day, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.040 you can you are fine tuning, and you come up 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.160 with statements what I'm working on this, working on that, 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.679 But when you look at what you're actually physically trying 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.719 to do. I mean, if you take a stick, just 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.280 a stick, and there's a daisy six inches off the ground, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.640 and you say right and not the top of that daisy, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.640 you'd go without thinking of it. You just go smack, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.680 you smack all of all the petals. And if somebody 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.760 filmed that, they said that's a gold swing. But then 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.760 somebody will then go, well, you've got to keep your 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.840 right elbow into your body and you've got to do this. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.839 You've got to do that. You've got to and you go, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.160 hang on a minute. If I just stand out and 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.840 whack a stick, you know, and just whack something for fun, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.880 what does it look like? And so I think that 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.520 I think it's you know, every coach wants to come 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.559 up with their own interpretation, their own you know, they're analyzed, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.520 you know, as as we're saying, it's just say, if 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.720 if we had a hundred coaches analyze Walter Hagen swing, 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.559 you know they're going to come up with was a 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.920 hundred different ways of presenting that too, you know, and 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.720 some of these strong believers and one thing and someone strong. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.560 But then you go, that's what I learned from pictures 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.920 because I didn't I didn't need works. I used to 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.720 go through the golf books and I never I never 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.320 forget the golf magazines, and I never forget. They showed, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.199 they showed all the European golfers at the time when 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.400 you're playing the European Tour, and they were impact in 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.439 a certain position, and and and I thought, and then 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.959 you turned the page and there was Byron Nelson at 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.800 impact and it looked different. And there's Barron Nelson with 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.120 fifty wins and these guys having up five wins between 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.280 all of them. And I thought, I'm gonna look at 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.240 Baron Nelson swing rather than these guys swing. So I 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.440 learned from I learned from I learned from pictures. I 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.760 mean even great Hogan books and Jack's books and everything 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.880 and your books. I just looked at pictures and thought, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.280 oh if I get in that position, and I translated 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.200 it myself rather than reading the words, how somebody is 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.320 because everybody says some things like you know, Jack says, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.240 I play with my hands. Now even Jack said that, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.880 so you go, Jackson Hampet. Of course Jack felt like 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.360 he played with his hands because his body was body 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.480 action was so perfect. So when your body action is perfect, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.520 you can forget about it because it's it's doing it automatically. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.440 So you then and think, oh, I just played with 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.280 my hands. So when I read that Jack plays with 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:54.720 his hands, well that's not right. That that see you 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.680 steer you in the wrong direction. So hey, I I 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.280 learned from seeing. Seeing was believing from you know, Jack's 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:07.640 legs always measured twenty nine inches his thighs, what he's 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.320 in My waist was nine, So we said, we used 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.680 to always bring out the tape and never joke about that. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.120 But do you know that Jack Nique a drive in 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.480 Ohio N one and a long driving competition that would 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.840 and that both three hundred and forty one yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.440 well yeah, when you look at something again, they put 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:33.480 you know, we didn't have speed monitors or whatever. You go. Um, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.000 you know when they put again back to back, they 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.800 put Jack swing in a Brison swing, and wow, it 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.720 was in. Jack was keeping up, but it was the same, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.480 it was the same speed coming down. So we all 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.720 know that Jack had under his shirt he believed he 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.960 could have got up to hundred with a piece of 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.840 a cemet which was unhurt. So that's why Jack was 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.440 had that ability when he won. And again, but with 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.920 the equip we played within ourselves. We were all told, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.600 whether rightly or wrong, because you know, play at eight percent, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.440 stay under control. I always said, if I want if 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.640 i'm if it's a seven one and I need to 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.320 and I want to hit it further, I've got a 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.680 six in the bag, I don't crunch the seven. Well, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.720 now now you crunch the seven. You you have. You know, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.960 some guys have different speeds, or some guys go at 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.720 one speed. You know, so because again the equipment, they 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.840 might say just go with one speed, just go with 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.120 one swing. Because the clubs do an awful lot of 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:48.040 work for you. You know, invariably people say the Masters 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:52.080 is the greatest sporting event in the world today, and well, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.320 you know, the great thing about the Masters is, um 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.160 the quality of everything. Um. It really is prist in 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:05.080 every single inch inside the roads and even outside the ropes. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.080 I mean even you know, it's expanding. You can even 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:13.800 when you drive the the boundary road outside the golf course, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.679 everything is in place. There's never a piece of litter 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.840 or anything or wire anything out of position. It's still 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.720 it's manicured from So that is what makes it so special, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:30.320 in the quality everything they do. Burtman's if you ever 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:34.200 have given get the opportunity. It's a big corporate ticket, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:39.160 but Burtman's is the most amazing set up, the most 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.679 amazing experience that I've ead. You know, the quality of 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.080 the mask is obviously very different, and then you go 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.600 to the ruggingness of the Open. The Open is on 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.600 a piece of links land on the coastline when it's 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.800 blowing and everything, and that's sort of and it's a 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.639 completely different test. Yet and we're obviously being a British 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.760 lad you know, the openers obviously arias to me, but 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.760 the Masters, because of the timing of you know, we 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.399 finished normally finished in the last major used to be 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.359 the PGA in August, and then he went all the 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.920 way from August April thinking and talking about the Masters. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:16.240 So it was it's the It's even in my day 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.760 when I first remember my dad said, do you know 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.360 when you won the Masters? That was in five thousand 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:26.240 different newspapers across the world. So it's the publicity wise, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.359 it's uh, it's the biggest one. But you know, in tradition, 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.160 obviously open is older and what happ is so they're both. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.840 They're both very special to us, and they and meeting 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:42.440 President Eisenhower and Bobby Jones, who I admire so much, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.560 and Clifford Roberts and as you say, it's without a question, 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.000 the best run tournament in the world. But you know, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.760 Bobby Jones was he had a great command of the 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.840 English language. And I'll never forget us cutting his meat 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.440 because he was riddled with our writers and Augusta and 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.600 I put the fork in his things like this, and he, 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.640 you know, sort of jabbed the meat and nice said 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.040 Mr Jones, I'd love to ask you a question. Uh, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.000 you know, I can never birdie the third hole He 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.240 put his head down and he said, you're not supposed 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.080 to birdie the third hole, you know. Of course they 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.440 put that flag in that position. Now he beat as 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.560 they stay in Scotland, turning in his grave. Now they 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.320 take a three wood and they hit it on the green. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.400 But Nick, we haven't. This is only to start they 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.719 in an extra amount of years time. I don't know 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.159 how long I've gone profess that, but they're going to 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.359 carry the ball past where deshambro lies lands now or 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.760 ends up. Now, you've gotta have coming in because of 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.160 the longevity of golf million dollar first prize. Every week 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.360 you can finish thirtieenth and make sixty grand. And they're 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.600 going to have these big football players come out like 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.520 Lebron James, And I promised you they're gonna whip it 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.800 way by where deschambro ever did, unless unless they come 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:01.640 to their senses and do something about the ball. Well, 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.399 anything I'm worried about that, Gary, is that as you 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.440 get older, we we traditionally sit next to each other 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:13.720 at champions dinner, and we've done that for moons. Now moons, 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.440 am I going to have to cut up your meal? 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.400 You're gonna have to cut up? Am I gonna? Am 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:23.159 I gonna have to cut up your shrimp? Shrimp? I 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.960 can still manage to put my mouth on it without cutting. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.720 He did, he did. He choked to that a couple 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.119 of years ago. He's swallowed. He's talking like he does swallowed. 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.800 You are right, Gary, Oh my god, As long as 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:43.760 I but as long as I can remember you, that's important, God, 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:45.919 Dave I Gus. You can remember my name and what 0:20:45.960 --> 0:21:01.359 you're eatings are shrimp, then you'll be fine. So what's 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.560 your what are you? What is your favorite holder on golf? Oh? 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:11.199 Number eleven, white dog? Would you know? Nobody? Nobody? I 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.960 got the rare distinction that you know, to win back 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.720 to back was I was only the second man after Jack, 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.680 So that was great and so obviously and to win 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:25.000 and the playoff is gonna is obviously never happened before. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.400 And to win on the same hole in a playoff 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.399 will never and now it will never, never, ever ever 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.040 happen again because they played they played the tenth in 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.000 the eighteenth in the playoffs. So I've got that. So 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.320 it's very special to me. And the and the funny 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.680 the funny thing is, you know, now I'm in commentary, 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.840 and how we we always put up, you know how 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.320 they played the whole throughout the week. So they put up. 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.280 And when I went te Dolph in eight nine, they 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:56.760 put up my scores bogey bogey, bogey bogey. So I 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.600 boged it. I boged it every day. Oh so what 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.159