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Speaker 2: spending the dials back of the ESPN studios. And you know,
Speaker 2: I mentioned a Super Bowl Bear, Tom Theayer and a
Speaker 2: lot of your former teammates golfing this week with some
Speaker 2: old guys, not necessarily Super Bowl Bears a few. But
Speaker 2: did you get the invite to Jay Hilgenberg's course out
Speaker 2: there at Kenosha with Waddle and Jim Harbaugh and Neil
Speaker 2: Anderson and I forgot who else?
Speaker 4: Caposo, Jim Morrissey. I did get, I did get an invite,
Speaker 4: But for the most part, I have retired from the game.
Speaker 5: I poorly played it.
Speaker 4: So but you know what, I enjoyed being out of
Speaker 4: practice with you yesterday. I did see Sylvie, I saw
Speaker 4: Danny's utter mean but you know, we have a chance
Speaker 4: to kind of get away from it all and have
Speaker 4: a little bit of football conversation. And it was kind
Speaker 4: of funny because I keep thinking about it, that that
Speaker 4: catch by DJ Moore in the end zone and you
Speaker 4: called but you called it a trust throw, yeah, And
Speaker 4: I like that because it was a tight window. It
Speaker 4: was a great catch. It was great confidence by justin
Speaker 4: you know, inside the red zone like that, and you
Speaker 4: know that's the the standards of improvement that you have
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 5: But I keep, I keep thinking about.
Speaker 4: That word trust throw, trust throw, because the more trust
Speaker 4: he gains in this group of receivers that I think
Speaker 4: that he has to have confidence within himself that he
Speaker 4: can make those throws.
Speaker 2: And he made a bunch of those with Dj Moore
Speaker 2: and has throughout this all offseason program. We bring in
Speaker 2: the quarterback himself, should we say because we got nicknames
Speaker 2: now apparently Jim about Miller Mania, we go with Miller Mania.
Speaker 2: So that's just a quick response. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if that works for you. If you've got a better one,
Speaker 2: bring it on.
Speaker 6: Uh, I don't know, like Miller Mill the thrill. I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 3: Mill the thrill.
Speaker 5: Wait.
Speaker 2: At some point in your football playing life grade school,
Speaker 2: did somebody coin that phrase for you?
Speaker 3: No? Never, No, I'm not buying it. You've had a
Speaker 3: few nicknames, I'm sure. But anyway, Miller Lite.
Speaker 2: I will say this though, when we talk about trust
Speaker 2: throws and just you can visualize what that looks like
Speaker 2: right without being at practice this week.
Speaker 3: I mean what does that mean and how important is it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean I just think you know, like I said,
Speaker 6: when you drop back and you're just you're confident, uh
Speaker 6: that the receivers doing their job. You know, say, you
Speaker 6: know basic just out routes, you know where you're just
Speaker 6: anticipating it and you're trusting that the receiver is going
Speaker 6: to cross the dB space and you know, you just
Speaker 6: you kind of just let it rip. You know, you're
Speaker 6: using you know that the receiver is going to do
Speaker 6: their end of the bargain and you're going to deliver
Speaker 6: your end of the bargain. A lot of that does
Speaker 6: come through trust, through reps, talking things, through knowing the coverages,
Speaker 6: just confident in what your assignment is and that's when
Speaker 6: you distrust it to let that bowl rip and get
Speaker 6: it out of your hand.
Speaker 2: The beauty of that particular throw we're talking about, and
Speaker 2: we had a bird's eye view of it, was in
Speaker 2: the red zone, so it was a thrower of the
Speaker 2: end zone in tight coverage. And I'll tell you DJ Moore,
Speaker 2: having seen him play with Carolina and now witnessing practice
Speaker 2: after practice, he has some magic hands.
Speaker 3: Jim is very soft.
Speaker 2: The ball is in his area, he just plucks that
Speaker 2: ball and gets upfield. I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: an and I said this one they traded for him,
Speaker 2: Tom and Jim, this is going to be a guy
Speaker 2: that's going to be a chain mover. He gets he
Speaker 2: accumulates first downs, which leads to touchdowns. And I know
Speaker 2: he hasn't had a ten touchdown year yet in his career,
Speaker 2: but he's had a whole lot of different quarterbacks. I
Speaker 2: think these you are gonna connect. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: they're gonna put some points on the board because this
Speaker 2: is a guy it appears again no pad, So you
Speaker 2: always got to qualify that this is the short season.
Speaker 3: But you know he trusts him.
Speaker 6: Jim, Yeah, you can say. I mean, if it wasn't
Speaker 6: for the quarterback situation, he would have been over five
Speaker 6: or over one thousand yards every year. You know, this
Speaker 6: past year they had what four different guys going at quarterball.
Speaker 3: He's had three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had three, so you know, PJ.
Speaker 6: Walker and Baker and then obviously Sam Darnold was down
Speaker 6: there as well, and I think he only finished with
Speaker 6: whatever eight hundred and eighty eight yards, But realistically his
Speaker 6: five year career, he would add over one thousand every year.
Speaker 6: If he just said competent quarterback play down there, and
Speaker 6: we mentioned the explosive plays, So yeah, I think he's
Speaker 6: got the ability to even this year, to get to
Speaker 6: double digit touchdowns. I mean, I've been saying it. If
Speaker 6: their run game is on par with what it was
Speaker 6: last year, their play action game alone, they won't be
Speaker 6: last in the NFL throwing the football. They just they
Speaker 6: will not with this group that that's not lining up
Speaker 6: this year in my opinion.
Speaker 4: You know one thing when we talk about OTAs and
Speaker 4: yeah and I listen, man, I'm the biggest disliker of
Speaker 4: no pad football that there possibly is out there. But
Speaker 4: if we're gonna go sit out there and watch the OTAs,
Speaker 4: you know, it's not about contact.
Speaker 5: It's more about hands and feet.
Speaker 4: And when you look at DJ Moore and that catch
Speaker 4: that he was able to judge the velocity of that
Speaker 4: football when it came out of Justin's hands and then
Speaker 4: he put his hands in place, how is he going
Speaker 4: to be able to stop control and catch the football.
Speaker 4: It's just like the other positions that you like to
Speaker 4: see paying close attention to the offensive line. Okay, if
Speaker 4: you go to OTAs, try never to watch their upper body,
Speaker 4: watch their feet and how they're connected to their responsibility
Speaker 4: and assignment. Because when you get do get on full
Speaker 4: paths and you have contact that's involved, you'll see a
Speaker 4: lot more of the little fundamentals of the game that
Speaker 4: you have to be good at in order to be
Speaker 4: an NFL player. But this is kind of judge day.
Speaker 4: Do they have the hands of a receiver? Do they
Speaker 4: have the feet as of an offensive defensive lineman or
Speaker 4: any other position? And you brought up the way that
Speaker 4: Edmunds flows as a linebacker, and we were talking about
Speaker 4: like when we initially saw Erlacker and now we have
Speaker 4: a chance to have an eyes on approach to Edmunds
Speaker 4: and how his feet flow in the linebacker position. So
Speaker 4: that's you know, one thing I do like about OTAs
Speaker 4: Again not a not a big fan of no pad football,
Speaker 4: but we do get a chance to see a lot
Speaker 4: of really important values that go into these guys earning
Speaker 4: an opportunity.
Speaker 2: No question, And Jim, you know you've been doing this
Speaker 2: a long time and you were part of that process
Speaker 2: as well, but you know it kills me sometimes when
Speaker 2: you read the national reports of OTA practices because again
Speaker 2: for those who don't realize it. The media's eyes on
Speaker 2: it only three times during the OTAs. It's once a week,
Speaker 2: but a lot of a lot of things are almost
Speaker 2: like put out there final analysis on somebody, or oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, this this rookie quarterback has struggled in OTAs. No,
Speaker 2: it's it's one ota that you had your eyes on.
Speaker 2: Don't formulate a whole idea what a player is or isn't.
Speaker 2: That's like a coach saying, you know, I stood on
Speaker 2: the table for a guy I wanted him in the draft,
Speaker 2: and then you know, two weeks into offseason program, I
Speaker 2: can't coach that guy. No, that's not the case. I
Speaker 2: will tell you those guys are again. The pace and
Speaker 2: the intensity despite no pads and no contact is intense
Speaker 2: over there. They are running all over the place, and
Speaker 2: I am with Tom, you know, watching the feet, watching
Speaker 2: the accuracy of a quarterback.
Speaker 3: The balls shouldn't be on the ground much.
Speaker 2: You know, it really shouldn't, especially in seven on seven,
Speaker 2: and that would be the case for a regular season also.
Speaker 2: But the ball's not on the ground that much. You're
Speaker 2: making chance he throws that maybe you would normally do
Speaker 2: you should you gotta experiment, let it let it rip,
Speaker 2: and Justin's letting it rip on the flip side defensively. Jim,
Speaker 2: there's something about this Tyreek Stevenson man, this Miami kid,
Speaker 2: second round pick. He's walking and talking, dare I say,
Speaker 2: like a veteran corner out there, his communication skills. Just
Speaker 2: listening to him on the practice field and his persona
Speaker 2: and his swagger, it's he's really caught my attention.
Speaker 3: Jim.
Speaker 6: Well, he because he looks the part right, you know,
Speaker 6: he's that's a big, physical corner who they essentially selected
Speaker 6: out of Miami. And so I think that's encouraging because,
Speaker 6: like you said, you know, some players pick things up
Speaker 6: a lot quicker than other players. Like who was I
Speaker 6: reading about today? Will Levis was one of those players
Speaker 6: that supposedly struggled today the sky is falling. He's a
Speaker 6: rookie quarterback. Of course he's going to go through his struggles.
Speaker 6: And some of these rookies will have good days and
Speaker 6: then of course they'll have bad days. But you're trying
Speaker 6: to start to stack them together as you install all
Speaker 6: these things that they need to be able to execute,
Speaker 6: and it'll go at a different pace for every single player.
Speaker 6: But as for Tyreek Stevenson that was a productive player
Speaker 6: in college. He's got all the measurables you're looking for.
Speaker 6: So I think it's encouraging that you're saying he looks
Speaker 6: the part. But as Tom said, the big tests, when
Speaker 6: the Pats come out and things start coming a lot faster,
Speaker 6: you know, in terms of the speed and the pops
Speaker 6: and the hits and all those type of things, that
Speaker 6: he'll have to be a whole new ball game. That'll
Speaker 6: see if he looks the part then, and then it'll
Speaker 6: be the preseason games and we'll see if he looks
Speaker 6: the part then, you know, and he's got to keep
Speaker 6: on stacking him together and earning it when it's all
Speaker 6: said and done.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That kind of my third point about going throughout OTAs
Speaker 4: as I the defensive back group, I really enjoy the enthusiasts,
Speaker 4: the enthusiasm in which they practice with and that when
Speaker 4: they do make a big play, they you know, kind.
Speaker 5: Of surround and support each other.
Speaker 4: And I think that's why I message you today, Jap
Speaker 4: about how many guys in this defensive back group don't
Speaker 4: have any NFL starts, Because when we look back at
Speaker 4: the defensive backfield a year ago to where it's at now.
Speaker 4: It's one of the most competitive, experienced positions that the
Speaker 4: Bears have, and it was super encouraging because when you
Speaker 4: go back and you look at the practice and you
Speaker 4: look at the way, you know, how fired up these
Speaker 4: guys are and how they're communicating and how they're, you know,
Speaker 4: really approaching their job to make it as difficult as
Speaker 4: possible for a guy like justin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna hear from John Holk on some of
Speaker 2: those guys, the young guys. The answer to Tom's question,
Speaker 2: how many guys did not yet have an NFL snap
Speaker 2: on the list of dbs, the answer is five, and
Speaker 2: they're all rookies, undrafted or drafted players. Everybody else on
Speaker 2: that defensive back list right has NFL snaps here or
Speaker 2: somewhere else. Coming up next, we're gonna be joining an
Speaker 2: interview I did with a defensive end Dominique Robinson this
Speaker 2: week up at half I saw that's coming up next
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Speaker 1: Excuse Weekly with a Force of the Bears for twenty
Speaker 1: three years. Jeff on the Bears Radio Network.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody, the Bears Weekly here on ESPN
Speaker 2: one thousand here in Chicago, and the Bears Radio Network.
Speaker 2: Jeff Joniec alongside defensive end edge rusher, a guy who
Speaker 2: could kick inside as well. Second year and ready to
Speaker 2: have some fun. Domini Robinson our guest here today and
Speaker 2: now we'll talk to Jim Miller and Tom Payer in
Speaker 2: a moment.
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking some time. How you feeling good?
Speaker 8: Are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great? Tell me how it's going.
Speaker 9: It's going good. It's going good. I had a great offseason.
Speaker 9: I kind of took a little time off, but I
Speaker 9: was here working out a lot, you know, trying to improve.
Speaker 10: When some areas get stronger.
Speaker 2: So where did you want to get stronger or where
Speaker 2: did they want you to get stronger?
Speaker 9: Well, I want I knew I needed to get stronger
Speaker 9: in my upper body. My legs are solid, but I
Speaker 9: needed to get stronger on my upperbody to be able
Speaker 9: to set the edge a little better. So think I've
Speaker 9: done that.
Speaker 2: Is that something you felt over the course of your
Speaker 2: rookie season like these?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So, I mean, you know, the transition kind of caught
Speaker 9: me in a in a weird area where I was.
Speaker 9: I was strong, but I wasn't as strong, and then
Speaker 9: I come here and it's you know, you got to
Speaker 9: ramp it up just a little more. So, uh, it was.
Speaker 9: It was definitely a learning experience last year. But I
Speaker 9: think I can. I'm gonna be great this year.
Speaker 2: You know, Honestly, I ask guys this all the time
Speaker 2: when they come in off you know, listen, Tremaine Edmonds
Speaker 2: was nineteen when he entered the league. He's only twenty
Speaker 2: five years old. Okay, but can you feel when you
Speaker 2: come in as a young player the strength of a
Speaker 2: guy on the opposite siety.
Speaker 3: Can you feel their strength? It's man strength.
Speaker 9: It's different. It's a little different. You can definitely feel it.
Speaker 9: It's a little different from college. You know, you can
Speaker 9: kind of muster your way around. But with poor technique
Speaker 9: in the league, you know, you can.
Speaker 3: Get exposed technique at your beat.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So the toolbox I used to talk about the tool box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pass rushers, defensive linement, stopping the run too.
Speaker 3: Have you developed a toolbox?
Speaker 10: I have.
Speaker 9: I took some time to work out with some guys
Speaker 9: this this off season. I got with BT Jordan before
Speaker 9: actually right before he accepted that job out and out
Speaker 9: of Seattle, and he's a pass US specialist, so I
Speaker 9: got with him. I was supposed to get with Rob Mathis.
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna try to get with him after
Speaker 9: Ota is going into uh, you know camp and now
Speaker 9: in our off time, so I've been working with different guys,
Speaker 9: just trying to improve, watching tape and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of guys do hire you know,
Speaker 2: some professionals that focused in on that and that A
Speaker 2: lot of it is just marring footwork with hands, right,
Speaker 2: So unlocking your hands, we hear that all the time.
Speaker 2: And a guy who hasn't played the position very long,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's still a lot of those hands.
Speaker 3: To be unlocked.
Speaker 2: You know what, what you what have you learned the
Speaker 2: subtleties of of that one instant of time where you
Speaker 2: can make a move that's gonna make you dangerous.
Speaker 10: I learned a lot, especially with angles. Last year.
Speaker 9: My angle, my pastor's angle just wasn't the greatest, and
Speaker 9: that's why I was getting caught in a lot of
Speaker 9: positions that I was getting caught in. So I fixed
Speaker 9: that and it's starting it's starting to it's starting.
Speaker 10: To look good.
Speaker 9: So watching myself on tape with the angle and the
Speaker 9: different moves and stuff like that that I've learned this offseason,
Speaker 9: I'm feeling good.
Speaker 10: I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: Well, you folks can't see this, but he's smiling. So
Speaker 2: he's got that. He's got that look in his eyes.
Speaker 2: So you know, you're the first one. You got to
Speaker 2: look in the mirror and say, Okay, I'm better. I'm
Speaker 2: figuring this out a little bit. After instant success two
Speaker 2: week one, you're thinking, okay, had a second a half
Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers in that slop and then
Speaker 2: if you're not getting them, is a way on you?
Speaker 10: Right? Is it?
Speaker 3: Does it?
Speaker 5: It did?
Speaker 10: It did?
Speaker 9: And you know, I think I was blessed to be
Speaker 9: able to get those sacks in week one to show
Speaker 9: that I can do this.
Speaker 10: But I got lucky. I'm not gonna lie. Uh.
Speaker 9: I think that was one of those beginner luck games.
Speaker 9: And as the season went on and I kept fighting
Speaker 9: and fighting trying to get some more, it just wasn't happening.
Speaker 9: So uh, that was a big learning experience and all
Speaker 9: that tape.
Speaker 10: Last year I've watched, I've learned from it.
Speaker 9: I sat down with my coaches and you know, worked
Speaker 9: on the things that they told me, and I'm improving
Speaker 9: from that, so I you know, it happens, it's not
Speaker 9: gonna happen again.
Speaker 3: Though I like the I like the resolve. Why won't.
Speaker 9: Oh, I just can't. I can't have another season like that.
Speaker 9: I mean, that was that was year one. You know,
Speaker 9: that's that's that's expected.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 10: I I expected more from myself, But.
Speaker 9: Now that I'm here, it's definitely I don't expect it
Speaker 9: to do that again.
Speaker 2: Do you give yourself a little break about that, because,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, you don't have a ton of experience
Speaker 2: at right.
Speaker 9: A tiny bit, but not much like when I so
Speaker 9: my my original before getting drafted, my original goals were
Speaker 9: to make the fifty three and to make plays on
Speaker 9: defense or SG whatever spot they put me in. When
Speaker 9: I got here and I knew, you know, the season
Speaker 9: came around and I knew that I was going to
Speaker 9: be in rotation, those goals started to change a little bit.
Speaker 9: You know, I started to put a number on the
Speaker 9: sacks and stuff like that, and when I didn't reach
Speaker 9: those goals, you know, kind of it kind of hurt
Speaker 9: a little bit. But I'm still learning the game too,
Speaker 9: and I'm still learning that. You know, it's not just
Speaker 9: me out there of four guys rushing as one. So
Speaker 9: even though I'm not getting a sack, my efforts can
Speaker 9: help somebody else get a sack. Their efforts efforts can
Speaker 9: help me get a sack, and it just plays all
Speaker 9: in the one. So after I looked at that and
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, you know it is what
Speaker 9: it is, you know. And throughout the season, even though
Speaker 9: you know it ended with one and a half, I
Speaker 9: had opportunities where I was in on things you know
Speaker 9: that I you know, didn't get the numbers for. But
Speaker 9: I was in on a couple of stuff throughout the
Speaker 9: season even though the sacks weren't there. I was productive
Speaker 9: as of you knows and crassures and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: So I know sax is the main goal and that's
Speaker 9: what I'm here for. Uh, there were there was other
Speaker 9: stuff that went on to.
Speaker 2: How many miss secks did they tell you you had
Speaker 2: or did you think after watching back?
Speaker 9: When I when I watched it back, I didn't have
Speaker 9: any open opportunities to where it was just like, man,
Speaker 9: you missed that one. Uh, there were more of you
Speaker 9: should have used this move, you know, or you should
Speaker 9: have did this or that. I was my alignment, assignment,
Speaker 9: key technique. I'm usually solid on doing the right things
Speaker 9: and being in the right places. So it wasn't no
Speaker 9: mental errors or anything like that. I think it was just, yeah,
Speaker 9: you know my luck.
Speaker 2: Was it hard?
Speaker 3: Was it hard hard on your mentally because you always
Speaker 3: were in a great mood? Yeah, great mood, always great moved.
Speaker 2: But was that season hard for you?
Speaker 10: Not much.
Speaker 9: I mean there were times times where I got, you know,
Speaker 9: not in my head. I never get in my head,
Speaker 9: but there were times where I'm like, what is going on,
Speaker 9: you know, just trying to figure it out, you know,
Speaker 9: as as an athlete, you try to figure it out.
Speaker 9: And I was trying to figure it out on my
Speaker 9: own for a large amount of the season, thinking, you know,
Speaker 9: I got this, I'm gonna try to watch others and
Speaker 9: figure it out. And then those last three games after
Speaker 9: the Eagles game, because I had a horrible game, I
Speaker 9: just I don't know, I was off my I didn't understand.
Speaker 9: I knew what I was doing, but the way a
Speaker 9: Lota was setting me, I literally couldn't understand what was
Speaker 9: going on. And it just looked bad on tape. I
Speaker 9: was second guessing a lot, so I want to talk
Speaker 9: to the coaches. In those last three games, I was
Speaker 9: I felt good, like I was getting off the ball,
Speaker 9: I was setting edge, I was striking. So the Lions,
Speaker 9: Bills and the Vikings, those are my three games where
Speaker 9: I was like, I'm finished strong. I'm finished strong. And
Speaker 9: then it's carrying over now to where the angles of
Speaker 9: how to line up and stuff like that help with
Speaker 9: setting the edge, They help with getting to the quarterback
Speaker 9: and all that stuff.
Speaker 10: So it's it's it's solid.
Speaker 2: Hey, Drew mile, lot of no slouch there either six nine,
Speaker 2: big body. Yeah, it takes you a couple of zip
Speaker 2: codes to get around that guy.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Our guest is Dominique Robinson.
Speaker 2: A few more minutes with the Bears defensive and second,
Speaker 2: you're player, and there's a.
Speaker 3: Lot of second your player.
Speaker 2: So I'm watching these guys out at OTAs in the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks and watching some tape and just
Speaker 2: seeing that these young guys, your drafts class and the
Speaker 2: undrafted guys, they with their beak like they got reps.
Speaker 2: You guys got reps led the league by a long shot.
Speaker 2: They want playing time, like the competition. Do you suspect
Speaker 2: once training campits and the pads come on, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be pretty pretty special in my opinion?
Speaker 10: Is you agree? I do? I do?
Speaker 9: Yeah, my class, I noticed early on that a lot
Speaker 9: of us was playing, and you know, we had Ricky
Speaker 9: Academy with Erica and stuff, and I told them, like, yo,
Speaker 9: you've got to look at what's going on right now.
Speaker 9: We got the highest amount of rookies in the league,
Speaker 9: and for a lot of us, we were all playing
Speaker 9: or doing something either on sc offense or I'm like,
Speaker 9: you gotta like we got to pick it up, you know.
Speaker 9: So I think it's definitely gonna be a lot of competition.
Speaker 9: And the rookies they brought in, they're they're ready to
Speaker 9: go too, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're likely to bring in some more free agents,
Speaker 2: you know, before before it happens, So it'll it'll really
Speaker 2: stir the pot a little bit. Everybody's talking about Edge
Speaker 2: Rusher's past, Rush.
Speaker 3: Not not not?
Speaker 2: Is that is that insulting to hear you? You and
Speaker 2: Trevis for example, They don't talk about you guys yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, not enough. Anyway, It's all good.
Speaker 9: I haven't earned it yet, and it's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 9: come a time where you know, people people will be talking.
Speaker 10: So that doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 9: You know, this is this league is you know, always moving,
Speaker 9: you know, trying to find the next best guy. So
Speaker 9: I understand what it is. And half the time some
Speaker 9: of the stuff that comes out it isn't true anyway,
Speaker 9: So I don't even I don't, I don't bother you know,
Speaker 9: we got d Walk, we got rashim Me GiB and
Speaker 9: a couple other guys, so a couple of rookiees. So
Speaker 9: I mean, I if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, doesn't,
Speaker 9: I'm still here.
Speaker 2: I'm working about the about the new young guys inside
Speaker 2: the characters I've already interviewed. Zach Pickens great, always laughing,
Speaker 2: always sense of humor. Jervone Dexter, a tremendous linear athlete playing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: tell me what you think about those guys.
Speaker 9: I was, I was, you know, I was glad to
Speaker 9: meet those guys. I love that there wasn't an ego,
Speaker 9: you know, there weren't. You know, they two three picks
Speaker 9: two and three, you know around two three. So when
Speaker 9: you get those kind of guys sometimes you think, you know,
Speaker 9: they might come in with an ego, thinking that they
Speaker 9: this and that, and you know they didn't do that.
Speaker 9: They came in respectful.
Speaker 10: Huh. You know.
Speaker 9: They they're doing what they gotta do to be the
Speaker 9: best for us and for themselves. So they're really good guys.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that's an important point to
Speaker 2: bring up because and Cody white Hair talks about it
Speaker 2: all the time. You know, when when they started looking
Speaker 2: at Free, you know, does he fit our culture? And
Speaker 2: it's been established, it's been worked hard to do. Some
Speaker 2: really great players from the past have moved on for
Speaker 2: the idea that now we're going to be building something
Speaker 2: and now getting ready to compete. Do you guys recognize
Speaker 2: that too as young players that that matters?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it does. In here, it definitely does. And I
Speaker 9: know there was a guy in the in the draft
Speaker 9: where I was like, he doesn't fit. I knew, and
Speaker 9: I knew I was telling him a wif I talked
Speaker 9: to my life, I'm like, you know, he doesn't fit.
Speaker 9: You know, so these guys fit. They've picked guys that
Speaker 9: fit our culture. They work hard, they hear every day,
Speaker 9: they own time, all the things that coach flu preacies
Speaker 9: we're all trying to accomplish.
Speaker 2: I see eighty five on your white T shirt. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it means, but eighty five is the
Speaker 2: last time the Bears want a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Is there any connection there?
Speaker 10: Connection? But for this pose it is.
Speaker 2: I like that because it's it's been way too long obviously,
Speaker 2: But and this will wrap us up here with Dominie Robinson.
Speaker 2: Do you feel, like Cody mentioned today, there is a
Speaker 2: different feeling in the building. You know, last year everybody
Speaker 2: was not sure, especially veterans, who was going to be here,
Speaker 2: was not gonna be here, whether they just gonna you know,
Speaker 2: rip it down to the bare wire basically and start over.
Speaker 2: And in some sense that did happen. But now what's
Speaker 2: been happening and you you being here a lot, There's
Speaker 2: been a lot of guys who have been here throughout,
Speaker 2: not just talking about OTAs, but from you know, the
Speaker 2: time that the weight room was opened up and you
Speaker 2: guys could start hitting it. Do you feel good about
Speaker 2: everybody's mindset about what we're trying to build here?
Speaker 10: Yeah? I do. I do.
Speaker 9: And last year, you know, being a rookie, I kind
Speaker 9: of I kept to myself. I call myself a people watcher.
Speaker 9: I just I watched and I gauge others on how
Speaker 9: they move and stuff like that. They're you know, personality,
Speaker 9: So the personalities are way different, for sure. It's a
Speaker 9: lot different. A lot of guys want to work, they
Speaker 9: want to be here, and you know, they want to grind.
Speaker 9: Even though you know, our prices are a little a
Speaker 9: little harder than other places, people are still here grinding,
Speaker 9: putting in work. The guys who you know that probably
Speaker 9: couldn't shouldn't be here if they didn't want to, are
Speaker 9: here for the most part. So it's I think, I
Speaker 9: think it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it serves a bigger purpose, right correct, Well.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. We're going to look forward to seeing it.
Speaker 2: It's always big. Second year makes a big difference and
Speaker 2: then the next one becomes even bigger.
Speaker 3: So keep grinding and good luck this season.
Speaker 2: Dominie Grobinson our guest here on Bears Weekly Back with
Speaker 2: Tom Thayer and Jim Miller. Next Down Bears Weekly on
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Speaker 1: Is Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears for
Speaker 1: twenty three years, Jeff Jonyak on the Bears Radio Network.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Tom Jim Miller just heard Dominique Robinson. Want to
Speaker 2: touch on a couple of things before we listen into
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Alan Williams about the state of affairs on defense.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with Tom and then go to Jim.
Speaker 2: He talked a lot about angles and learning angles. We
Speaker 2: got to remember this was an offensive players, a quarterback
Speaker 2: tight end, played some defense in his final year at
Speaker 2: Miami Ohio. But you know what is he referring to
Speaker 2: the angles of approach to a quarterback that he has
Speaker 2: yet to master, that he's working out of the saw
Speaker 2: on tape that he didn't do a year ago. And
Speaker 2: you as an offensive lineman bracing for what a defensive
Speaker 2: lineman is coming at you.
Speaker 3: They're trying to get on your edges right.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, first of all, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: angles that you have to pay attention to. You have
Speaker 4: to pay attention to the initial setup. Whatever offensive lineman
Speaker 4: you're gonna pass rush against. Is he trying to overset
Speaker 4: you really wide to get you to commit to the inside.
Speaker 4: Is he trying to give you a soft outside shoulder
Speaker 4: that allows you to run upfield? Because then you have
Speaker 4: to understand what is the quarterback most likely to do.
Speaker 5: What angle is he gonna take.
Speaker 4: Is he gonna take a sharp outside angle and try
Speaker 4: to challenge your outside pass rush ability, or is he
Speaker 4: going to stay inside and try to force you to
Speaker 4: take an inside angle and try to go over the
Speaker 4: strongest part of your offensive lineman. There's so many subtleties
Speaker 4: to the details of being a great defensive end, especially
Speaker 4: in this modern day offense with three stop drops with shotguns,
Speaker 4: with the RPOs. And then he talks about playing against
Speaker 4: an offensive line like that of the Philadelphia Eagles, and
Speaker 4: this is a super experienced group of guys.
Speaker 5: They've been together for a long time.
Speaker 4: And then, just like our offensive line in eighty five,
Speaker 4: we would never create vulnerabilities.
Speaker 5: If Keith van.
Speaker 4: Horn was gonna set far to the outside, I knew
Speaker 4: that I could help Jay to the inside and still
Speaker 4: protect Keith's inside. So it's all those angles of approach
Speaker 4: that you have to understand. But it's all about if
Speaker 4: he has a superior get off, then he's gonna be
Speaker 4: in control of the angle. So when he talks about
Speaker 4: his own development, he talks about the explosiveness, the burst
Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage, understanding.
Speaker 5: How to set the edge.
Speaker 4: So you know, you could sit here and talk about
Speaker 4: twenty to thirty different angles per game that when.
Speaker 5: He masters those, he'll be a better defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Jim what I love He was wraw about his analysis
Speaker 2: about what he was last year and watching the tape,
Speaker 2: and he sounds like a guy who cares. And that's
Speaker 2: the first step of being great, like acknowledging even to
Speaker 2: yourself and publicly go, hey, these are the things I
Speaker 2: did not do well.
Speaker 3: This is my disappointment. This is what I gotta work on.
Speaker 2: And then feed into this notion that you know, players
Speaker 2: make a big jump from your ononder year two.
Speaker 3: Can we expect that from a guy like Dominic Graunt.
Speaker 2: Are we sleeping on guys like Dominique Robinson and Trevis
Speaker 2: Gibson who's entering a very important year three for the
Speaker 2: Bears on the edge.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he should expect to have a big jump.
Speaker 6: Like you said, he's new to the position. He's growing,
Speaker 6: he's learning, he's listening to his coaches. He went in
Speaker 6: there to Hey, what can I do to get better?
Speaker 6: And then you've got to start to apply him. He's
Speaker 6: got the rolodex. Now he'll be facing some of the
Speaker 6: same guys that he faced last year. So when he
Speaker 6: goes back and watches the tape, and I'm sure he's
Speaker 6: got to be honest in that assessment. Hey, next time
Speaker 6: that happens, I'm going to do this where you now
Speaker 6: start to have answers, you know, to make sure that
Speaker 6: the negative things you did don't happen again. And you
Speaker 6: start to have answers where you can now you know,
Speaker 6: basically spin off of it, where you can come up
Speaker 6: with a better reaction or maybe a better situation. You
Speaker 6: play it a lot better the next time because you've
Speaker 6: been through those. It's been a learning experience, and that's
Speaker 6: how you continue to grow and get better as a player.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know any player who didn't want
Speaker 6: to be great, who wasn't hard on themselves. You know,
Speaker 6: it used to bother me. I'm sure bother Tom if
Speaker 6: I you know, having a bad play in a game,
Speaker 6: I like sometimes I wouldn't sleep at night. I just
Speaker 6: made that play, would just keep on going in my
Speaker 6: head over and over and over again, and I'd just
Speaker 6: be telling myself, all right, next time that happens, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna do this or that to make sure that that
Speaker 6: doesn't happen. And again, I don't think if you're not
Speaker 6: challenging yourself like that, then you're never gonna get better
Speaker 6: as a player. So I think it's a good thing
Speaker 6: that he cares. I think it's an honest assessment and
Speaker 6: hopefully he's put the work in to where he can
Speaker 6: make that big jump in year two.
Speaker 2: All Right, Alan Williams the best defensive coordinator at the
Speaker 2: podium This week at the media availability, we'll talk about
Speaker 2: the defensive ends improvement overall.
Speaker 3: At this point, I.
Speaker 7: Do, I do, and I'll say yes, and i'd say
Speaker 7: what makes me think that, Yeah, just being out there
Speaker 7: and seeing how they're working, how they're rushing the passer.
Speaker 7: We keep it shard ofduction, and their production is up
Speaker 7: different from last year. Specific guys, the understanding that they
Speaker 7: have of the defense, so all those things are better
Speaker 7: than they were last year. So that leads me to
Speaker 7: believe that will be better now. The caveat is that
Speaker 7: we don't have pads on right now, and so you'll
Speaker 7: never know until you know. But the era was still
Speaker 7: from me. It's pointing up in sky high.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: With that being said, it was a big topic. And
Speaker 2: I've done many events already this off season with fans
Speaker 2: season ticket holders, and he used to be, Hey, how's
Speaker 2: Justin Fiald is going to be? Now?
Speaker 3: Is are we going to get another edge rusher?
Speaker 2: Because they completely dismissed what's been added in free agency.
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Walker, Rashid Green, the two guys that are trying
Speaker 2: to elevate. We just touched on Tom and now it's about, Okay,
Speaker 2: who we bringing in? And I'm going to ask you, guys.
Speaker 2: I asked you the same question last week. I spent
Speaker 2: more time thinking about it. A lot of these guys
Speaker 2: are thirty, thirty three, thirty four years old out there.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could squeeze a year out of them and
Speaker 2: maybe they maybe they can be here for a couple
Speaker 2: of years. I listened to an interview on Serious XM
Speaker 2: earlier today, Jim on the Gentleman from Indianapolis last year
Speaker 2: on yennikin Gockway. He's looking for a multi year deal.
Speaker 2: He's started of moving around. He's been at a lot
Speaker 2: of places, so maybe he's holding out for a long
Speaker 2: term deal, which for a veteran of his age, you
Speaker 2: get two years, you're lucky, three, you're really fortunate. How
Speaker 2: about a guy like Frank Clark, He's still only twenty
Speaker 2: nine years of age.
Speaker 3: Would this player be of interest to either of you?
Speaker 6: To Jim, you start, yeah, I don't think Frank Clark
Speaker 6: would be a bad guy. I think, what do you know,
Speaker 6: He's one of the top guys in postseason play, right
Speaker 6: and I think, you know, he still is at that
Speaker 6: age where he can be an impactful player, and you know,
Speaker 6: I just think for him that ultimately he's probably going
Speaker 6: to be ended up returning to Kansas City. I don't
Speaker 6: think the number that he's looking for is out there.
Speaker 6: And I would say the same thing about Yannick and Goakway.
Speaker 6: Both those guys can still play. I think, you know,
Speaker 6: because the Bears do want to go young, I think
Speaker 6: probably the better avenue would be to go out and
Speaker 6: work a trade with a team. I don't know if
Speaker 6: anybody ever asked Ryan Poles as much as I think
Speaker 6: we all love DJ Moore. I mean, if you think
Speaker 6: about it, Brian Burns would have been a pretty good
Speaker 6: get from Carolina right as an edge rusher. I mean,
Speaker 6: to me, he's been a good fit and I'm sure
Speaker 6: probably Ryan Poles asked about it, but as Polesley, Carolina
Speaker 6: said that Brnton, no way Brian Burns is off the table.
Speaker 6: When other teams were making calls last year towards towards
Speaker 6: the end of the year, but new regime, all those
Speaker 6: type of things, maybe you thought that would have been
Speaker 6: a possibility there because guys like Brian Burns, I think
Speaker 6: around the league, in that age group, those are guys
Speaker 6: maybe you'd want to target via a trade.
Speaker 3: But Tom, who's given those guys nobody? You know.
Speaker 4: That's why Clark would be my only consideration of the
Speaker 4: guys that are out there and the guys that you mentioned,
Speaker 4: because he's still you know, in that you know, twenty
Speaker 4: something twenty nine you said, and he is a pass rusher.
Speaker 4: He understands what it takes to be successful in the
Speaker 4: style of defense. He's been around a successful locker room
Speaker 4: in the last few years, and he knows how to
Speaker 4: bring that message aboard. But I don't want to spend
Speaker 4: money on hope you still have something in the tank.
Speaker 4: I want to spend it on a bona fide a
Speaker 4: guy that's going to come in here and be an
Speaker 4: asset to your football team in every way, shape or form,
Speaker 4: and then contribute.
Speaker 5: Sacks and pass pressure.
Speaker 4: So if you have to sit here and continuous develop
Speaker 4: the talent that you have here and get your interior
Speaker 4: of your defensive line to play a better brand of
Speaker 4: football so they can help your exterior edge rushers, then
Speaker 4: maybe that's the route you have to go. But you know,
Speaker 4: I'm I just don't want to throw money at the
Speaker 4: hopes that someone as the panic because in our in
Speaker 4: our background as broadcasters, Jeff, we have seen that happen
Speaker 4: to the Bears, and sometimes it didn't work out for
Speaker 4: the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, many different examples.
Speaker 2: Yes, Certainly before we go to break one more with
Speaker 2: Alan Williams, because we've we've mentioned this, the secondary competition
Speaker 2: is going to be intense. Kyler Gordon right now a
Speaker 2: topic playing that inside nickel. He loves playing outside corner,
Speaker 2: but right now dedicating his eye on that inside position.
Speaker 3: The analysis from Alan.
Speaker 7: Williams, Yeah, I would say right now where he's in
Speaker 7: at the Nickel, and we're doing a lot of that,
Speaker 7: and but we've we've moved him all around still with
Speaker 7: the idea that he's gonna play Nickel. But you can
Speaker 7: never have enough corners in the NFL. So we're not
Speaker 7: going to just limit him to that. We're gonna put
Speaker 7: him outside a little bit to keep his feet, keep
Speaker 7: his feet wet there and so that if he needs
Speaker 7: to go outside, it's not like gosh, I hadn't had
Speaker 7: any reps for an extended period time, so Nicol and
Speaker 7: then if need be, he'll he'll go outside and go
Speaker 7: outside and function and function well.
Speaker 3: Nichols are hard to find.
Speaker 2: We'll pick up that part of the conversation with Jim
Speaker 2: and Tom after this break.
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Speaker 2: with you and Jalen Johnson appearing out ESPN National this
Speaker 2: morning with Ki Shan, Jaywill and Max. Says that his
Speaker 2: absence will end the OTA will be back next week,
Speaker 2: so he says he had a lot of things working
Speaker 2: off the field.
Speaker 3: I do know this from doing stories with him. He's
Speaker 3: big on being a dad.
Speaker 2: He's got a daughter that is young, and he spends
Speaker 2: a lot of time with her when he can in
Speaker 2: the off season in Fresno.
Speaker 3: And business fundraisers.
Speaker 2: A kid that died his best friend just in twenty
Speaker 2: one gun down. He honors him in a project called
Speaker 2: Kevy's Vision and he's working on that in the off
Speaker 2: season too, so he'll be back. He's been in contact
Speaker 2: with John holl quite a bit. Jim, so we often
Speaker 2: focus on guys that are not there as opposed to
Speaker 2: guys that are there. And the headline of the Bears
Speaker 2: this offseason is attendance has been outstanding.
Speaker 3: I mean virtually everybody is there now.
Speaker 2: Nate Davis hasn't to my knowledge, he hasn't been in
Speaker 2: the OTA sessions. Doesn't mean he hasn't been there in
Speaker 2: other regards, in the weight room or whatever. But those
Speaker 2: are the two that have drawn drawn most of the conversation.
Speaker 2: But every team has it right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think well, for the most part, most teams
Speaker 6: really have a good level of you know of attendance
Speaker 6: in the in the ots. Granted it's voluntary. I think
Speaker 6: we all we all get that, I think if you
Speaker 6: stay in communication with the coach. But again I think
Speaker 6: every player knows that it's not where it needs to
Speaker 6: be right now. So again, nobody is solidified other than
Speaker 6: say maybe tremain Edmunds and the free agents who signed
Speaker 6: for big money. They know they're going to be there,
Speaker 6: they know what the role is, they know they're they're
Speaker 6: going to be on the team. But it's still unsettled
Speaker 6: for a lot of guys that are out there. So
Speaker 6: the guys are hungry, they're in there working. It's good
Speaker 6: that Jalen, he'll be in there next week. I actually
Speaker 6: just talked to Jalen last week. He was doing the
Speaker 6: golf outing for the Kevies that you were just talking about.
Speaker 6: So he does have a lot of stuff going on offseason.
Speaker 6: I think most coaches now understand it about the voluntary. Hey,
Speaker 6: we're going to coach the guys that are here. That's
Speaker 6: the coach speak that is out there. Of course, they
Speaker 6: want every player to be there. You want to build
Speaker 6: that continuity, you know, the you know, all the stuff
Speaker 6: you need as from a team level to build all
Speaker 6: that moving forward. And they've got a lot of guys
Speaker 6: that are doing it and next week Jalen will be
Speaker 6: a part of it. So I think it's a good
Speaker 6: thing that the Bears are have all those guys working, you.
Speaker 4: Know, for all these guys that can participate in the meetings.
Speaker 5: The academic side.
Speaker 4: Of football, I think that's the most important part to
Speaker 4: me because back in the day when we didn't have OTAs,
Speaker 4: you counted out everybody to have that work ethic that's
Speaker 4: that they display during the off season to be ready
Speaker 4: for the regular season.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of.
Speaker 4: A little bit more the program of Jalen Johnson this offseason,
Speaker 4: but with Nate Davis, him becoming familiar with the offense
Speaker 4: is going to allow him to hit the ground running. Now,
Speaker 4: if he was not participating in meetings and then you
Speaker 4: went right to the first day of full pad training
Speaker 4: camp or even mandatory mini camp and you're half a
Speaker 4: step behind, you can make the entire offense look dysfunctional. Defense,
Speaker 4: it's a little bit different of a role. You're isolated,
Speaker 4: you're out there in a corner, and Jalen understands what
Speaker 4: his assignments are a new guy like Nate, he's got
Speaker 4: to become familiar with his assignments because he's gonna be
Speaker 4: asked to help Darnell write, move along as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4: And if they're questioning each other as they approach the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, right there, the offense is behind by
Speaker 4: a half account or three quarters of account, And I said,
Speaker 4: that can ruin the whole function.
Speaker 3: Tom, what's that Hawaiian term you always say when things
Speaker 3: are tough? Coppoo?
Speaker 4: Oh, coppo dangers danger.
Speaker 2: John Holk back with the Bears secondary coach cornerbacks and
Speaker 2: the passing game coordinator. I brought up with him in
Speaker 2: an interview with the assistance this week. Just the development
Speaker 2: so far of a Tyreek Stevenson in other topics. He's
Speaker 2: out there talking as if you look at him for
Speaker 2: a second, A wait, that's a rookie out there kind
Speaker 2: of making sure things are getting done.
Speaker 3: Is he had a little bit?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he knows football. He's very instinctive, he gets he
Speaker 8: understands it. He's played a two really good programs. He
Speaker 8: had three really good defensive coordinators in college, so you
Speaker 8: know you can tell he has a very good uh
Speaker 8: grasp of defensive football and concepts.
Speaker 2: So when you have three defensive coordinators in your time,
Speaker 2: you often think of that as a negative, but in
Speaker 2: this case for a corner, he's at a positive.
Speaker 8: He took it as a positive and he talks it
Speaker 8: life as it's a positive, and he talks about how
Speaker 8: this is made. It's it's helped him with understanding this
Speaker 8: system and these concepts. So he's done that.
Speaker 2: And in terms of Terrell, similar situation.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's doing good. He's smart and he's got size,
Speaker 8: you know, and he understands what you're trying to teach him,
Speaker 8: and once you teach it to him, he very rarely
Speaker 8: makes a mistake. He's just got They all have to
Speaker 8: do it, you know, with consistency and with detail.
Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna hear from Kyler soon.
Speaker 10: Today.
Speaker 2: Is he focusing on just one spot more so? And
Speaker 2: he's that a good thing for him right now.
Speaker 8: That's a great thing because he's getting reps at one
Speaker 8: spot and he'll be a really really good He's he's
Speaker 8: got a really good skill set for that spot and
Speaker 8: that's really a great plus for us. He's physical, smart,
Speaker 8: has instincts, So it's exciting from that standpoint.
Speaker 2: You know people well knowing John Halkey wants everybody to
Speaker 2: be physical on those edges on the inside of the corner.
Speaker 3: So and you're seeing that at practice town.
Speaker 4: But you know, Jeff, one thing about Kyler Gordon, if
Speaker 4: he masters that inside corner position, just think of the
Speaker 4: versatility it gives the entire defense and the defensive backfield,
Speaker 4: because here's a guy that can come up and support
Speaker 4: the run. Here's a guy that can blitz off the edge.
Speaker 4: Here's a guy that can take one of the most
Speaker 4: important coverage roles, and that requires him using a majority
Speaker 4: of the field and lock it down. So I think
Speaker 4: the more Kyler Gordon can do, the more versatility it
Speaker 4: gives your defense overall and how you can attack and
Speaker 4: where you can blitz.
Speaker 2: From and the other corner. He was referring to Turell
Speaker 2: Smith out of the University of Minnesota. Hey, hey, Jim,
Speaker 2: in terms of which is a defensive heavy show. Clearly
Speaker 2: we talked about justin all the time we touched it
Speaker 2: at the top of the show. Where do you see
Speaker 2: this defense in terms of the inside guys? And Tom
Speaker 2: can weigh into these young inside guys and just say,
Speaker 2: for example, they are not able to bring in a
Speaker 2: free agent defensive end for whatever reason, maybe it's too costly,
Speaker 2: or it just it just doesn't work out. Can they
Speaker 2: Can they get that pass rush to a level of
Speaker 2: consistency in your opinion? Or will that require the coaches
Speaker 2: to be a little more well, you know, Allan Williams
Speaker 2: calling a few more blitzes here and there, or what's
Speaker 2: your thought on that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think if it's not to the level
Speaker 6: what it is, you have to do something, you know,
Speaker 6: so you've got to manufacture it. You know, it's last year,
Speaker 6: what do they do? They ran some safety blitzes with
Speaker 6: Jakwan Brisker. Now maybe this year it's more linebackers with
Speaker 6: the speed of Edmunds and obviously Edwards. Maybe maybe that
Speaker 6: factors in because at some point, if it's not getting
Speaker 6: done up front with the with the front four and
Speaker 6: what do you what do we know that you need
Speaker 6: from from a dominant defense? You're probably your two edged
Speaker 6: guys or your end of the line guys got to
Speaker 6: be double digit sack guys. Right Philadelphia they led the
Speaker 6: league in sacks, all right, and you look at San Francisco,
Speaker 6: they've got double digit guys Okay, So if you can't
Speaker 6: get guys on the outside, whether it's Walker or whoever,
Speaker 6: the Robinson, they can't get to that level of maybe
Speaker 6: they're only getting five or four, then you got to
Speaker 6: generate it somewhere else, and it's got to be with
Speaker 6: the other guys. And maybe Blitzey Moore would be a possibility.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's twist, maybe it stunts. I don't know. The
Speaker 6: coaches will have to figure that out, or you go
Speaker 6: out and you get a guy here. I should have
Speaker 6: brought up the name earlier. I mentioned Brian Burns. You know,
Speaker 6: I don't know. Is Chase Chase Young available over there Washington?
Speaker 6: They didn't give him the fifth year option. You know,
Speaker 6: he hasn't played well after his knee injury. He was
Speaker 6: hesitant to get back on the field. Where are they at?
Speaker 6: They've got new ownership coming in there. That team hasn't
Speaker 6: arrived by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe they'd move
Speaker 6: on from Chase Young. Right, that's a former first round
Speaker 6: draft pick who everybody thought after his rookie year was
Speaker 6: going to be the man until he tore his acl
Speaker 6: Where's he? So guys like that that you got to
Speaker 6: be looking around for as well.
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't think that you can approach
Speaker 4: the system and say this defensive success is relying is
Speaker 4: if we get a marquee pass rusher by the time
Speaker 4: the season starts, then I just think that you're gonna
Speaker 4: create a dysfunctional group that maybe doesn't believe in theirselves.
Speaker 4: So you do have to formulate a plan that you
Speaker 4: could apply pressure from different way, shapes or form and
Speaker 4: that a lot of times that can come from your
Speaker 4: inside pass rushers when they develop.
Speaker 3: And they're counting on that for sure.
Speaker 2: One more segment to go, well, quickly hit some topics
Speaker 2: league wide. This is Bears Weekly on AESBO one thousand
Speaker 2: of the Bears Radio Network.
Speaker 1: This is Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears
Speaker 1: for twenty three years, Jeff Jony on the Bears Radio Network.
Speaker 2: All right, less than a minute, Jim Miller topics. Who's
Speaker 2: winning the NBA Finals? The Denver Nuggets to Jimmy Butler
Speaker 2: in the Miami Heat.
Speaker 5: Who you got? I'll go to the heat?
Speaker 3: Tom Denver Nuggets? Okay, Tom Brady's certain he's not playing again?
Speaker 3: Jim true or false? True? Tom True?
Speaker 2: Should Josh McDaniels have anxiety over the Raiders quarterbacks sition situation.
Speaker 2: Tom with Jimmy Garoppolo apparently coming off with surgery.
Speaker 5: Jim.
Speaker 2: Yes, Matthew Slater, I love what he has to say
Speaker 2: every day of his football Iby ripped the new kickoff
Speaker 2: rule as he right on the money. Yes, Tom, all right,
Speaker 2: that'll do it for us. Thank you for everything, guys
Speaker 2: for Tom Thayer, Jim Miller, Eric Ostrowski, our Bears Ready
Speaker 2: to Network executive producer, AM one thousand, Charlie Bevans, Dan
Speaker 2: Brilly and Jordan Treadip.
Speaker 3: Thank you to Dominique Robinson.
Speaker 2: Coming up next Game one of the NBA Finals Tonight
Speaker 2: It's the Heat and Denver.
Speaker 3: Good night of