1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: They say is the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: It's Friday, the second of January. I'm Stephen Carroll in London. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Coming up today. Swiss authorities continue the search for victims 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: after dozens are killed in a tragic New Year fire 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: at a ski resort bar. Christine Leguard says Bulgaria joining 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: the euro is a powerful symbol of what the EU 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: can achieve. Plus an upbeat start. Stocks begin twenty twenty 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: six on the up as last year's big bets on 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: AI and chips continue to power gains. Let's start with 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: a roundup of our top stories. Officials in Switzerland say 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: around forty people have died in a fire at a 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: ski resort bar where partygoers were celebrating the New Year. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: They estimate that more than one hundred others have been 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: injured after flames ripped through the bar at the popular 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: alpine resort crom Montana. Eyewitnesses told friend broadcaster BFMTV that 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: a candle on a bottle ignited the ceiling. Swiss President 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Gui Parmerlan says it's one of the worst tragedies his 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: country has ever experienced. 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Their lives should be honored for what they were promise 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: energy a part of our shared future. We owe it 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: to them to respect them. We owe it to their 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: memory to make sure that such a tragedy never happens again. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Swiss President Gui Palmerlan, speaking through a translator. Investigators are 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: retrieving some phones and conducting interviews with witnesses to see 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: if the venue had the correct safety procedures and emergency exits. 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: European Center Bank President Christina Guilds says Bulgaria adopting the 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: Euro is a testament to the continent's ability to cooperate 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: and withstand international headwinds. In a statement, the ECB chief 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: said the euro is a powerful symbol of what Europe 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: can achieve when we work together. She offered these words 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: in a video message posted on social media. 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 4: We are delighted to welcome all the Bulgarians into the 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: euro Area using the Euro. I promise that I would 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: toast that moment, and of course I will raise a 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 4: glass with some good Bulgarian wine to celebrate the occasion. 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: What Despite the guard's warm words, Bulgaria's entry into the 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: euro Area comes amid ongoing criticism of the country from 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: the European Union over its failure to make sufficient progress 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: on improving the rule of law domestically. The timing is 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: also sensitive. The Bulgarian government has recently been forced to 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: resign following anti corruption demonstrations, and public opinion remains divided, 43 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: with almost half of the population said to oppose adopting 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: the single currency. Stocks have opened the new year with 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: gains once again being dominated by AI and chip makers. 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Asian shares climb as Samsung touched an all time high 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: and bid you jumped on the news that its chip 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: unit has filed for an IPO. Despite a recent pullback, 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: global stocks posted their strongest year since twenty nineteen last year. 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: Battel is head of the capital allocation team at all 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Spring Global Investments. 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: I think the same sectors that have been strong for 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 5: this year and a couple of years before are going 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: to continue to be strong. The other sectors that I think, 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: particularly for consumers, may be rather disappointing. So we still 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: think it'll be technology industrials relating to the electrical grid 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: and those will be the sectors, and aerospace defense will 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 5: continue to be the strong sectors and really all perform 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: those other sectors. 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: Marji Betel's picking there after. The Nasdaq one hundred index 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: gained twenty percent last year, in a third consecutive year 62 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: of gains in other corners of the market. Gold and 63 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: silver have also advanced as trading in twenty twenty six 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: kicked off, building on their best annual performances since nineteen 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: seventy nine. China's BYD looks on tractors or pass Tesla 66 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: to become the world's biggest selling electric vehicle maker From 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, The ev Giant medits fullier sales target, 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: delivering four point six million vehicles that's almost eight percent 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four. Around half of those were fully 70 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: electric vehicles I mean. While Tesla is expected to report 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: later today that it delivered just over four hundred and 72 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: forty thousand vehicles in the fourth quarter, down eleven percent 73 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: from a year earlier. That would see annual sales come 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: in at around one point six million, marking the second 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: consecutive year of declining sales for Elon Musk's company. The 76 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: UK's Chancellor Rachel Reeves is quietly hammering workers with taxes, 77 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: according to new analysis from the Center for Policy Studies. 78 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 6: The report by the right. 79 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Of Center think tank titled Who Wins Under Labor says 80 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: that under OBR forecasts, workers earning around fifty thousand pounds 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: today will be worse off by just over five hundred 82 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: pounds in twenty thirty even as pensioners and benefit recipients 83 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: enjoy real terms gains. The news comes after the Chancellor 84 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: extended a freeze on income tax and national insurance contributions 85 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: for in employees until twenty thirty one in a November budget, 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: a policy which the Treasury has defended as fair and necessary. 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: And Zora MM Danny has been inaugurated as mayor of 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: New York City, promising to lead as a democratic socialist. 89 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: The nearly two hours swearing in ceremony featured speeches from 90 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: two of the US's most liberal members of Congress, Representative 91 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: Alexandria Occasio Cortez and Senator Bernie Sanders. I'm Danny, promised 92 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: to the large crewdit City Hall to represent all of 93 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: those living in the city. 94 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: I stand alongside over one million New Yorkers who voted 95 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: for this day nearly two months ago, and I stand 96 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: just as resolutely alongside those who did not. I know 97 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: there are some who view this administration with distrust or disdain, 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: or who see politics as permanently broken and while only 99 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: action can change minds. I promise you this. If you 100 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: are a New Yorker, I am your mayor. 101 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Danny is New York City's first Muslim and South Asian mayor, 102 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: as well as the youngest and more than a century 103 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: after the ceremony, Ma'm Danny announced three executive orders focused 104 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: on making housing more affordable. And those are your top 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: stories on the markets. The Mscish Pacific Index outside of 106 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: Japan is at one point six percent. Japanese markets are 107 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: still closed today, the Hangsang two point six percent are 108 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: Eurostock fifty Future is four tenths lower at the moment, 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: but we're looking at future as positive. On Wall Street, 110 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: Nazdak futures up by seven tenths of one percent. The 111 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Dollars Spot indexes flats. We've got the euro at 112 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: one seventeen forty eight this morning. In a moment, we'll 113 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: look ahead some of the big themes dominating markets in 114 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: the year ahead, plus why today January twod should be 115 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: your default day. But first let's bring you more on 116 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: our top story in the devastating fire at that ski 117 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: resort in Switzerland during New Year celebrations. Our reporter two 118 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: at of Bios here with the latest tiba. What is 119 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: the latest that we know then about what happened? 120 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 7: Well, we know that this fire broke out in the 121 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 7: early hours of yesterday morning. It was at La Conste 122 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 7: La Chimbar in the ski resort of Consmontana during those 123 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 7: New Year celebrations. Police and emergency services were alerted around 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 7: one thirty am and rushed to the scene to help. 125 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 7: At the moment, Swiss police are saying about forty people 126 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 7: were killed and one hundred and fifteen injured. There are 127 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 7: a number of others missing as well. The injured were 128 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 7: taken to local hospitals after the event, as well as 129 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 7: some facilities in Lauserne, Geneva and Zeri so across Switzerland, 130 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 7: and local officials are saying the blaze was the result 131 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: of an accident. Some eyewitnesses have told French broadcasters that 132 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 7: it was a candle on top of a bottle which 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 7: ignited the ceiling, resulting in the fierce blaze. At the moment, 134 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 7: police have accordoned off the area and they are continuing 135 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 7: to investigate the course of the fire. 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: Where do we expect those investigations to be focusing on 137 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: from here. 138 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 7: Well, we've heard from the Swiss president that he's confident 139 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 7: that the investigation will be carried out in a professional manner. 140 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 7: At the moment, investigators are trying to deduce a cause 141 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 7: of the blaze. They've retrieved some phones from the scenes, 142 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 7: and they are conducting interviews with witnesses. One part of 143 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 7: their work will be to see if the venue had 144 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 7: the correct safety procedures and emergency exits in place, if 145 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 7: anything could have been prevented. But also there are still 146 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 7: a number of people missing, as I mentioned, and police 147 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 7: are trying to identify bodies and are trying to get 148 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 7: in touch with the relatives of the deceased. Police have 149 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 7: now set up a helpline for families seeking information. Officials 150 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 7: are warning though that it could take days or even 151 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 7: weeks to identify everyone that died. 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: This is too obviously a major tragedy in the Skimers 153 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: or Switzerland as a country as well. And how are 154 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: authorities they're reacting? 155 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, so for Switzerland, this is a major incident and 156 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 7: one that they are perhaps not used to. Well, there 157 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 7: was a very popular tourist destination Conspontana. It's also quite 158 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 7: a small town, and we've seen that in some of 159 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 7: the reaction, some of the injured have had to be 160 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 7: transferred to neighboring countries, just given the strain on the 161 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 7: health services in Switzerland because of the scale of the tragedy. 162 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 7: But this was President as well saying that it's one 163 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 7: of the worst tragedies their country has ever known. They're 164 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 7: still coming to terms with the scale of the incident, 165 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 7: but there was a significant immediate reaction from emergency services. 166 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 7: There were thirteen helicopters, forty two ambulances and one hundred 167 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 7: and fifty emergency responders sent to the scene of the 168 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 7: fire shortly after that fire broke out. So at the moment, 169 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 7: Switzerland is still coming to terms with the scale and 170 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 7: the tragedy of this event. 171 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: Okay to Adabaio, thank you very much. Stay with us 172 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: more from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up after this to 173 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: the markets now, and we're seeing stock markets in Asia 174 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: gaining in their first trading sessions of the year. The 175 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: prices of gold and silver also rising after volatility that 176 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: we've had over recent days. Let's bring in our markets 177 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: report of valeries. I tell for more Valerie. Good morning, 178 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: a positive start to the year. What's driving the gains 179 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: in Asia? 180 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 8: Look, it's the positive start to the year, and it's 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 8: all down to again the theme of chips and ai 182 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 8: leading Asia stocks higher. We have the Hang Saying hire 183 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 8: by two point seven percent, the costby Index in South 184 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 8: Korea hire by two point three percent, and that's already 185 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 8: after the costb in South Korea was one of the 186 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 8: best performing stock markets of twenty twenty five. What's really 187 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 8: leading it is a few interesting things about chip IPOs 188 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 8: by Do announcing its AI chip unit has filed for 189 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 8: an IPO. That was one of the best performing stocks 190 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 8: in the Hang Saying this morning, and it's kicking off 191 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 8: what is expected to be a busy year for listenings. 192 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 8: Backing China's tech ambition, we actually had an IPO this 193 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 8: morning from a Byron. This is another Chinese ship maker. 194 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 8: It surged as much as one hundred and nineteen percent 195 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 8: in the first day of trading in Hong Kong. Pretty 196 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 8: impressive first session trading debuts, and follows a string of 197 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 8: some Chinese chip makers coming to the market. 198 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 6: In December. 199 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 8: We had the likes of more Threads and Meta x 200 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 8: some of those surging triple digits on their first day 201 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 8: of trading. The market is starting to coin these companies. 202 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 6: Grouped together, the four Little Dragons. 203 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 8: It's all about China's ambitions in the chip space as 204 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 8: Nvidia retreats from the China market. 205 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 6: So a good positive session for Asia. 206 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 8: Again, as you mentioned, we are seeing precious metals rebound 207 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 8: after a volatile December. We're seeing gold up one point 208 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 8: three percent, in silver up three percent, and it comes 209 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 8: after a pretty rough trading session for the last trading 210 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 8: session of the year, after the CME hyped margin requirements 211 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 8: for precious metals. 212 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 6: But they're starting off the year on a positive footing. 213 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: Well, let's think then, Valarus was about how this fits 214 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: into some of the bigger themes we're expecting on markets 215 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Of course, as you mentioned, AI 216 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: absolutely huge and driving gains in last year. Are there 217 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: going to be continuing questions about a bubble in AI? 218 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Is there continuing source of bullishness from this area as 219 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: we look into the air as. 220 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 8: Look, no doubt the source of excitement about twenty twenty 221 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 8: six does come a lot down to AI and this technology. 222 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 8: Fideli International calling it the defining theme for equity markets 223 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six, Blackrock thinking that it could keep 224 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 8: worries about tariffs and traditional macro drivers the back in 225 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 8: the back in the rear view mirror. 226 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: If we continue to see this positivity about AI. 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 8: Nat West calling it the powerful engine of economic expansion, 228 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 8: But you did mention bubble concerns, and I do think 229 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 8: there is still going to be a narrative of how 230 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 8: does this infrastructure build out, how do we build out 231 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 8: these data centers if we're still tight on funding. Private 232 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 8: credit has been playing a big part in funding some 233 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 8: of these data centers. 234 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 6: We know that private. 235 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 8: Credit has had some issues before with the lack of 236 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 8: transparency in some of their deals. But also you have 237 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 8: to bring into the fact how growth and inflation is 238 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 8: going to help or perhaps hinder funding for AI. If 239 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 8: we do have supportive fiscal policies around the world continuing, 240 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 8: which we're expecting to either from Germany, Japan, or the US, 241 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 8: probably would need to be matched by lower interest rates 242 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 8: in order to help fund out fund this tech buildout. 243 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 8: And for that to happen, we need to continue to 244 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 8: see the US labor market. We can slightly inflation return 245 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 8: back to track, and that would open up the door 246 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 8: for potential of FED easing for twenty twenty six. 247 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 6: And off the back of that, lower interest rates meanings. 248 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 8: That funding this debt surge to help this AI build 249 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 8: out could be more a bit easier than the market expects. 250 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: Barerik tariffs and geopolitics were also big players for investors 251 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: in the past year. Do things look at a little 252 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: camera from an investor point of view going into twenty 253 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: twenty six. 254 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 6: Well, given how. 255 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 8: Big this technology AI driver is, I think the main worry, 256 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 8: at least in the geopolitical space is continued tensions between 257 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 8: the US and China over the tech race. 258 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 6: You know, I mentioned it just at the beginning of this. 259 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 8: Discussion about how Chinese tech companies are starting to pose 260 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 8: some competition to the likes of Nvidia, to likes of 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 8: US big tech and their dominance around the world. So, 262 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 8: how the US and China continue to have a strong 263 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 8: or maybe fractured relationship about AI and the tech ambitions 264 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 8: behind it could be something that's quite key for the 265 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 8: equity market next year. 266 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: Briefly valuing the question of private credit, you mentioned it's 267 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: importance there in the tech space. Is there any sign 268 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: of the appetite for private credits abasing. 269 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 8: Well, look, if we continue to have supportive FED policies 270 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 8: and lower interest it's hard to see credit having an 271 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 8: issue next year. But yes, it is going to be 272 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 8: such a key role in the AI buildout that of 273 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 8: course people are going to be concerned when they start 274 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 8: to see some of these numbers that the likes of 275 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 8: some of these data centers infrastructure buildouts are going to 276 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 8: be posing to to how much debt is already out there. Steve, 277 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 8: and I know we talk so much about the debt 278 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 8: already out there, at least on. 279 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 6: The government balance sheet. 280 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 8: Next year could really be about a debt surge at 281 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 8: least in the private sphere around this AI build out. 282 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Battery Taitel, a market supporter, thank you very much. 283 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: Just wanted to mention one of the story that we've 284 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: been reading this morning, an idea perhaps if your bored 285 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: or preemply disillusioned with New Year's resolutions. The behavioral economists 286 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: Ray Fisman and Michael Luca have a great piece on 287 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg about how today, the second of January, should be 288 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: your defaults day. That means that you should find some 289 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: time today to examine all of the decisions that are 290 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: made by default in your life, whether it's how much 291 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: you put into your pension or checking those subscriptions to 292 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: see if there are any that you're not using. They 293 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: delve into the science of this and quite defaults aren't 294 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: all bad, but they can leave some room for manipulation, 295 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: perhaps those continuing subscriptions that you don't check and allow, 296 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: I suppose money going out of your bank account for 297 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: no reason. Another suggestion from them, look at the apps 298 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: on your home screen on your phone. Are they the 299 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: ones you use the most? You could be saving yourself 300 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: time over the years too. They have some helpful suggestions 301 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: as well, things like perhaps just not just joining the gym, 302 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: but allocating appointments in your calendar to make sure that 303 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: you actually go. Carving out a time might actually help you. 304 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: To do it. 305 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Perhaps some good ideas the inspiration to start the year. 306 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: We'll put a link to that piece on Bloomberg dot 307 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: com in our show notes. 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