1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: If he comes out, hits the ground running, and is 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: as dominant as his talents for justice can be, then 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're looking at the Celia the 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Sodgers team for this year, and you're thinking about what 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: this team can be historically. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, and welcome to another edition of Dodgers Territory 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: with just Me. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: Alana will be back next week. Guys. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: She is enjoying her life on vacation. But what is 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: going on? 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: Party? People? 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: We are almost ready for spring training. Players are already 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: at the camel Back Runch. We're having a good time 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: and we're going to have a good time today. Fabi 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: and Ardaya of the Athletic is joining me on the show. 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Please sound off in the comments. Please give the show 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: a thumbs up. Please subscribe. We're trying to get to like, 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: oh nine ten thousand subscribers. 19 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: You could help us out. 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: Also, please check out our show in a podcast in 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: its podcast form, rate and review the show all that 22 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: kind of stuff if you don't mind. 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: But before we get into the. 24 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Welcoming Fabian, I want to talk about five things I 25 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: am watching this spring training as good as time as 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: any to get into today's big ticket guys, again, spring 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: training is here. 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: We are feeling good. The Dodgers are feeling good. 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: The Dodgers are locked, loaded, stacked, and it's a fun 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: time to be a Dodger fan. Said that a whole 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: bunch this offseason. But quickly, let's get into it. Number five. 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: We're going in this order five, four, three two one. 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Number five, I am watching the fifth thing. I'm watching 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: the spring training, however you want to say it, Roki 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: Roki Roki Sasaki making that transition to the States. 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: How well does he handle that? 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: How well does he command a big league baseball And 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: if he struggles, like we saw Yoshinobu Yamamoto struggle during 39 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: spring training last year, obviously it didn't matter in the 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: long run, dude to a World Series tramp. But if he struggles, 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: how does Sasaki handle that? How does he bounce back? 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: That's one of the things I am watching, number two 43 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: or number four, if I'm sticking in line with what 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: I said, I am watching the kind of smattering here 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: of Tony Gonsolin, Dustin May, Bobby Miller, particularly those three 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: dudes that kind of sort of figure to fit into 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: that fourth, fifth, sixth starter competition for the team this year. 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: How do they look early in spring training? Who stands out? 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Who's somebody who could get sent to Triple A because 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: there might not be enough room for all these dudes. 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, there is not enough room for all of 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: those dudes, especially when other guys get healthy. 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: One guy, Show Heyo Tani number three. 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: I am watching everything show hey Otani this spring training. 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: How does the swing look coming off of that shoulder surgery? 56 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: And more importantly, when will we see him getting into 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: games as a pitcher. I want to see shoe Heyotani 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: throwing a baseball for the Dodgers in that uniform. When 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: are we going to see him throwing a baseball? And 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: more importantly with that, are we going to see him 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: actually pitch in a spring training game before the regular season? 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: I should say really before the start of domestic regular season, 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: like not so much in any of the Japan series. 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Dave Roberts, the Dodgers already said he's not pitching against 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: the Cubs in Japan, probably not pitching in any of 66 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: those exhibition games in Japan. But there is a chance, 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: and it could be a whole lot of fun if 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: we see show hey Otani throwing a baseball for the 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Dodgers off the mound, either at Dodger Stadium or at 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Angels Stadium against the Angels. That's one opportunity they could 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: get show Hey a start while still giving him enough 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: time to kind of build up early in spring training. 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: So that's the third thing I'm watching everything Show, Hey, Show, Hey, 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: Show Hey. Number two on my list. You gotta be 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: looking at the second base competition and this is something 76 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: definitely we're gonna be talking to Fabi and a whole 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: lot more when he joins us in just a second. 78 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: But that second base competition, you have to be watching 79 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: this Hey song Kim, Chris Taylor, Miguel rohats in the mix, 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund Hey, maybe at some point there's a key 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: k Hernandez. But with the trade of Gavin Lux, you 82 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: know you're likely seeing maybe some sort of not a platoon, 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: but you're gonna see a rotation. You're gonna see Uh, 84 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna see ct In there, You're gonna see Kim 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: and there, are gonna see maybe see huss On. Kim 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: get that opportunity to kind of run away with it, 87 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: or you're gonna see a rotation where uh they find 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: a way to keep people happy, healthy, relevant, as Dave 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Roberts likes to say, and maybe to be is kind 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: of what they sort of had with the DH at 91 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: different points and kind of in the outfield. Basically getting 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: people in and out of the lineup goes a long 93 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: way for this team. So Kim Hussan, Kim could Hayeson 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: Kim could be the guy who maybe takes a lion's 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: share of starts there at two B. But we'll talk 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: more with bobbing about that in just a second. Of course, 97 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund is somebody who could run away with it 98 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: as well if Andy pa has takes some leaps and 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: bounds in center field this season as as well as 100 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: mc l Rojas could see a lot of time at 101 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: two B. But number one for me, spring training wise, 102 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: number one storyline I'm watching is, of course I've talked 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: a whole a bunch about it. 104 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: Keep beating a dead horse. But you have to be 106 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: watching Mookie Bets and how he handles that shortstop full 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: time transition. You know, does he get better with that 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: the whole offseason to work out there as opposed to 109 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: a week and some change, like he. 110 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: Got last year. 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: Also, I'm gonna be watching how often the Dodgers get 112 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: Tommy Edmond and Hayes on Kim maybe some reps there 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: at second base during spring training. There's certainly some reason 114 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: for concern over the Mookie Bets kind of shortstop plan. 115 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: I've seen it. 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: I've asked it myself, why are the Dodgers doing this? 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: And I've also answered that because if it works out, 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: the Dodgers look like geniuses. You get arguably the best shortstop, 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: even if he's average. You get one of the best 120 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: shortstops in baseball. When you're talking about how you can 121 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: project Mookie Bets offense. And if it doesn't work, you 122 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: still got some backups. You got Tommy Edman, you got 123 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Miguel Rojas laying around. So those are the five things 124 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: I'm watching. I wanted to get that in, get that 125 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: out of the way before we welcome our guests. And 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: our guest is here. He is locked in. You guys 127 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: know him as the man who does all of the 128 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: Dodgers coverage beat writer over at the Athletic covering your Dodgers. 129 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: His name is Faby and Ardayah and what is going on? 130 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Faby and thank you for joining me here today on 131 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: Dodgers territory and how you. 132 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: Doing, my dude, I'm good. 133 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Just a couple of days before I drive down in 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Arizona for spring training, so getting my last little bit 135 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: of southern California and before spending a month in West 136 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: Valley of Phoenix. 137 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, spring training is. It's that fun hell week, 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: but it's a hell month for people. When you guys 139 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: go out there, you spend a lot of time and 140 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: there's fun, there's excitement, and then you realize, oh no, 141 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: I have to do this for another like six weeks. 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: I guess it's not as crazy with Tokyo happening everything, 143 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: But regardless of all that, we appreciate everything you do 144 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 2: covering the team. And yeah, spring training right around the corner. 145 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: What is the stop the top storyline, top headline that 146 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: you're watching this spring? 147 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: I think number one, it's Mookie Bets. 148 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: That's sort of how he fits at shortstop, how he 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: sort of looks, especially after a full off season. I 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: think that's the big thing they've sort of talked about, 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: the idea that having a full off season as opposed 152 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: to just a couple weeks before opening daylight last year 153 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: is going to help sort of give him a chance 154 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: to work through developing himself at shortstop. Obviously, it's still 155 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: a difficult transition for anyone to make, let alone, even 156 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: if for someone as talented as Mookie Bets. Shortstop's a 157 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: tough position. He hasn't played it since he was a teenager. 158 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: There's still some concern about sort of the throwing angles, 159 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: arm angles, and that was a big thing for him 160 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: last year. But the sort of hope is that more 161 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: time it's the position trust in sort of the athlete 162 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: that Mookie Bets is that that's sort of gonna make 163 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: things line up and the Doctors' roster, the best way 164 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: it lines up is with Bookie Bets at shortstop. So 165 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: that's the number one thing thing we're looking at in 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: spring training. 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 168 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: I like what he said at fan Fest or Dodger 169 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Fest this past weekend, saying, in so many words, this 170 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: is an area the team needs me. 171 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: It's an area the team really needs. 172 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: So I'm going to step in there and I'm hoping 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: I can get another, you know, piece of that that 174 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: gold on my glove there as a shortstop. If not, 175 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: maybe he slides over to second base at some point 176 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: during the season. I was talking just before you join 177 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: about that competition at two B. I want to focus 178 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: on the Hayesung Kim factor of it. How do you 179 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: think the Dodgers are kind of viewing him? Is he 180 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: somebody that could be the I don't want to say 181 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: air apparent and what Gavin Lux was, but is he 182 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: somebody that could take and run with that job, that 183 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: job at second base? Or we've also heard maybe he's 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: sort of a utility guy. How do you think the 185 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Dodgers are viewing Kim and how do you think, honestly 186 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: he ends up playing out for this team. 187 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot will be determined the spring. I 188 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: think one of the few like real position battles that 189 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: there actually is the spring is who gets the majority 190 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: of at bats between Hays and Kim and Andy Pyees, 191 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: And a lot of that's going to depend on how 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: they've sort of play. 193 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: Is Anty Pye is. 194 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: Going to sort of assert himself as a guy who 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: deserves more every day at bats. Then you can sort 196 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: of have a situation where you have Tommy Edmund maybe 197 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: bouncing between center field and second base and sort of 198 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: have Hayes and Kim not really play against lefties, or 199 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: if Hayson Kim really hits the ground running, which is 200 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: difficult considering it's a tough transition from the KBO to 201 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: major league baseball. But if he does and he becomes 202 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: an everyday second basement, then you can sort of look 203 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: at a situation or primary second basement. Then you have 204 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: a situation where you have maybe Tommy I have been 205 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: bouncing back and forth from the infield, center field, Andy Pyez, 206 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: and center I think that's sort of the big thing 207 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: is sort of who has the better spring between Hays 208 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: and Kim and Andy Piez. I think the most time 209 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: when Kim is playing, it will be at second base, 210 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: maybe some short stop mixed in if you need to 211 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: give Mooki a day or something like that. But like, 212 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: I think that's where the biggest factor lies, and we'll 213 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: have to see it. Obviously, Kim has kind of acknowledged 214 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: the big difference between KBO and major league baseball is velocity. 215 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 4: How quickly do you make that adjustment. 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: We saw a guy like young Hulee last year who 217 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: really had a good start to the season before he 218 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: got injured and heard his shoulder, but really adapted very 219 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: quickly and then there's a guy like Hassum Kim where 220 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: it took it a couple months but then became a 221 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: league average bat slightly about the league average bat with 222 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the more valuable short stops of baseball. 223 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: So we'll see, it wouldn't be a Dodgers show. Would 224 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: definitely wouldn't be a Dodger's Territory show if I didn't 225 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: ask somebody about Key K Hernandez. Of course, we know 226 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: the front office said at fan fast, Hey, the door 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: is never closed on Key K. I've been I was 228 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: hoping they would bring him out and have him burst 229 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: out of a cake and saying I'm back. Everybody, you know, 230 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: this is what you want, this is what the fan wants, 231 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: the fans want. There was a Key K Key K 232 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: chant there. That's another dude where if he does come back, 233 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: let's say there is something in the works where Key 234 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: Hernandez is returning to this team. There's another wrinkle in 235 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: there to be maybe some left field, maybe at center field. 236 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: Should I, I'm gonna make this about me. Should I 237 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: give up my hope for a Key k Hernandez return 238 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: or do you think there's still a path. 239 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you should give up hope. I don't 240 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: think it's ever a thing about interests. I think both 241 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: team both sides are very interested in reunion, which just 242 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: a matter of how do the pieces fill in this 243 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: roster that would be complicated to put them on the 244 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: active roster to start the season, barring a change, barring 245 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: a move, or barring maybe someone like Andy pae Has 246 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: being a surprise non inclusion on the opening day roster, 247 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: or they make someone other kind of move, try to 248 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: clear up a roster spot, because that's right now in 249 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: that position player group looks really set. But obviously things change, 250 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Things change all the time. We saw last spring sort 251 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: of similar scenario. Then they trade Mandy Margo and all 252 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Kik Hernana. 253 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: Is on board. 254 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's necessarily the same situation as 255 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: Clinton Kershaw, where it's just a matter of Okay, once 256 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: the forty man rosterspo opens up, they'll finalize the deal. 257 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: They'll figure out later. But I don't think that you 258 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: can close the door on Hernando's being back yet. Obviously 259 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: the Doughter's not the only team interested in there. But 260 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I think it's the fit that makes the most for 261 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: both parties as long as there is a spot for 262 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: him on the roster, because just opening up one spot 263 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: out of the thirteen position players kick Aaron as his 264 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: versatile enough defensively to make the rest of it work. 265 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we say it a lot. 266 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent on this team. We can 267 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: go a million different directions with it. And I'll also 268 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: add to I appreciate somebody else saying I'm not crazy 269 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: for keik. I think a lot of fans are going 270 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: to appreciate that. But if we're talking about a lot 271 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: of talent, you can't not look at the starting rotation group. 272 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: You could definitely sense that this front office felt burned 273 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: as the season went along, and everybody just kept dropping 274 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: like flies. But you got Yamamoto. They bring in Snell, Glasnow, 275 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: returning Otani, at some point, the rookie Roki Sasaki in 276 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: the mix, that assortment of the Gonsolin May, Miller, Knack, 277 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: and at some point we're anticipating that Clayton Kershaw contract soon. 278 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: How does all of that fit together? And more so, 279 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: how does Clayton Kershaw, the future Hall of Famer? How 280 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: does he fit into a picture with all of those 281 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: talented arms. 282 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: Not to say he's not talented and that he can't 283 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: get it done. 284 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: But how does he fit into the picture where maybe 285 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: down the road he can be picking up some postseason 286 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: starts for this team. 287 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the scenario is obviously like he's probably 288 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: hoping to be back at some point midseason. He's still 289 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: obviously in the early stages of a throwing progression. They 290 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: have to sort of see how the knee feels, how 291 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: the toe feels, and also how that surgically repaired shoulder feels. Obviously, 292 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: with all goes well, there's going to be spots that 293 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: open up over the course of the season. We sort 294 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: of saw that last year. We see that with sort 295 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: of how this parting rotation is constructed. It's a lot 296 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: of names, a lot of talented names, but also guys 297 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: who are either coming off injury, have dealt with injury 298 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: in the past, and they'll find ways to sort of 299 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: piece it together. I think understanding that Dustin May and 300 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: Tony Gonsolin are both coming off major elbow surgery. Same 301 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: thing with schofeyo Otani. You have a guy Tyler Glass 302 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: now who has sort of said that he wants to 303 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: stay healthy all season. But I think most important time 304 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: he wanted to keep him healthy for is October. Do 305 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: you sort of build in rest for certain guys. There's 306 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna be ways for guys to slot in, and obviously 307 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: the names are gonna get longer. You see guy like 308 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Emmett she And who's said he's gonna be pitching in 309 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: rehab games in May or June. So there's gona be 310 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: more and more options popping up. But I think we 311 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: saw last year there's no such thing as too much 312 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: pitching depth, and things have a way of sort of 313 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: sorting themselves out, especially on the pitching front when it 314 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: comes to finding bodies sort of throwing at the problem. 315 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: I think the Dodgers have. 316 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Even more bodies to throw the problem tho they did 317 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: last year when they used a franchise record forty pitchers. 318 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, sometimes for the better, oftentimes for 319 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: the worse. You mentioned Dustin may In there. I mentioned 320 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: Dustin may He's the one guy where it it doesn't 321 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: seem like, even if he's fully healthy, doesn't seem like 322 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: there's a very clear defined role for him. We didn't 323 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to him at Dodger Fest. 324 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: How does Dustin may play out for this team? In, 325 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, putting some baseball knowledge out there, using your big, 326 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: big baseball brain. How does that fit our work for 327 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: Dustin May and the Rodgers in twenty five. 328 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Well, Brandon Gems said in November that both Tony Gonsolin 329 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: and Dustin May are gonna be full go from the 330 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Star Sprint training, like they have gotten further enough, far 331 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: enough when their development and the progression from surgery that 332 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: they are going to be full go. So that means 333 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: like Dustin May does not have minor league open he 334 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: there isn't a spot in the bullpen, even though obviously 335 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: there's people and fans who have speculated that always he 336 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: better fit the bullpen. I think it's still the best 337 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: plan is to at least stretch him out of the 338 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: starger and see where he's at. That he doesn't have options, 339 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: so he's basically locked into this rotation if he's healthy 340 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: to start the season, how that's plays out just actially 341 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: knowing where his work cloads have been at for his career. 342 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: In fact, he's never thrown I think more than I 343 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: think six year or something ending to the season, you 344 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: sort of have to see it play out over the 345 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: course of a full season. Sort of see where he's 346 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: at health wise, but at least the start. 347 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 4: Of the season. 348 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: Like I think what role is does on opening Day 349 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: coma Tokyo come opening Day against the Tigers, Like, I 350 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear what his role is gonna be. 351 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: It's just he's gonna be in the rotation. See where 352 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: he's at health wise, and see how he holds up, 353 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: and see how the stuff bounces back, because obviously the 354 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: stuff is great. But if he's coming off a second 355 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: major elbow surgery this one was a Tommy John revision 356 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: along with a flex re strength, well, to see how 357 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: it looks. But obviously he's immensely talented, and I think 358 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have enough leeway where they don't necessarily have 359 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: to feel like they are leaning on them heavily for 360 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: thirty starts over the course of the season. Not that 361 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: he would ever get to that point just coming off surgery, 362 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: but they don't have to lean on too heavily, but 363 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: they have to sort of see what he's looking like 364 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: early on the season. 365 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course here are somebody who is has 366 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: been on the internet a time or two in his life. 367 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: You see fans clamoring for Dustin May as the closer. 368 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: You know, there's also a butt ton of talent when 369 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: you're talking about the reliever, talking about the bullpen for 370 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: this team, add Tanner Scott, you add Kirby Yates, and 371 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: we know probably not necessarily a defined closer. They told 372 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: us Tanner Scott's probably picking up the majority or is 373 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: going to get a lot of ninth inning opportunities. I mean, 374 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: we got to a point we see this just come 375 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: up this week they deaface somebody. 376 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: As talented as Ryan Brazier is. 377 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we know there's no such thing as too 378 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: much talent, but is there almost too much talent to 379 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: go around for this team? And with that, how do 380 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: you think the sort of ninth inning and the bridge 381 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: to the ninth inning works for Dave Robertson Company this year. 382 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's too much talent, but I 383 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: think there's a cap on how much they could sort 384 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: of keep adding at this point while still maintaining some 385 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: level of flexibility to get you through a season. I 386 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: think obviously sort of saw on that in the bullpen, 387 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: like they don't have any really optionable relievers at this point. 388 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: The only guy with options is out, especially if we're 389 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: not going to send down so to start the season 390 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: at least until show Aratani's back in the rotation, you 391 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: can go to an eight man bullpen right now that 392 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: you have a seven man bullpen that's locked in barring help, 393 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: barring injury or anything like that. 394 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 4: So they don't really have a lot of flexibility there. 395 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, it's difficult for them to get Key 396 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: Hernandez on this roster just because they don't have a 397 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: ton of flexibility right now. So I think a lot 398 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: of it's going to have to sort of come internally 399 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: if they do have some sort of options, and obviously 400 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: that farm system is really well regarded. We'll have to 401 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: see what happens when you sort of have guys come 402 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: up and see how they sort of magnify their roles 403 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: and sort of expand their roles. But yeah, I mean 404 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: the talent is certainly high for this Dodgers team, and 405 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: as you sort of would expect considering how much they've 406 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: spent and what the projection systems sort of say, and 407 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: how this team looks on paper. 408 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, very very good team, making a lot of fan bases, 409 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: making a lot of other teams owners maybe upset, jealous, whatever, 410 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: the word you want to use. We saw the Athletic 411 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: Publisher report about what's coming out of the MLB owners 412 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: meetings some teams maybe kind of trying to push for 413 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: a salary cap. Do you think this is something that 414 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: the reality is Dodgers brought this aboard. Everybody's getting louder 415 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: and louder about what they've they've done the last two 416 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: off seasons. Are they kind of at the forefront of 417 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: maybe highly unlikely, but maybe a salary cap coming to 418 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. 419 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't think players would ever go for a salary cap. 420 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: I think that's just the line that they're not going 421 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: to cross. And I think the thing is like there 422 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: isn't a solar cap, but there is right now. 423 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 4: There really is. 424 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: Like the way that owners treat it is it is 425 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: a salary cap with exceptions like the Dodgers, because like 426 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: it's not a hard cap, but you see teams that 427 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: are not willing to go over the luxury tax threshold 428 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: or certain levels of the luxury tax threshold, or they 429 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: have to try to stick under. The Dodgers have done 430 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: this in the past two like they've tried to duck under. 431 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: They tried ducking under a couple of years ago. Obviously 432 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: weren't able to do it, but they wanted to duck 433 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: under to reset their penalties for show tiny side. Obviously, 434 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: they're in a position where they are making enough money 435 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: that they're willing to keep swallowing the extra tax that 436 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to every single signing, and you're sort 437 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: of figuring that out. But other teams are not obviously 438 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: not spending within one hundred million of the cap. Certain 439 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: teams are not spending within a hundred million of. 440 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: The extra tax threshold. 441 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: Obviously a cap would probably have to come with the 442 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: salary floor, but even then, like where. 443 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: Would you set the cap? And it just seems like. 444 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Obviously it's one of those things that owners in baseball 445 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: will always sort of talk about wanting to have, but 446 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: it's just so difficult to see them implement it because 447 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: you already kind of have something that serves the same function. 448 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, you see teams that are not willing to 449 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: go over the luxury tax. A team like Houston maybe 450 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: it isn't willing to keep going at this point because 451 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: they want to kind of reset things. They sure see 452 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: decisions made with that mind. But you see the Dodgers, 453 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: obviously like they just keep spending. And obviously, like you 454 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: mentioned the Ryan Brasier trade a couple a couple questions ago, 455 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: like that actually wund up being a pretty big trade 456 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: for the Dodgers. That was a trade and not a 457 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: waiver claim. Are not a release in a free agent 458 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: signing because the Dodgers don't just save the four and 459 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: a half million on Brazier. But you also say close 460 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: to like ten million in terms of luxury tax and 461 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: all total layout. So obviously those these are kind of 462 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: the ideas the Dodgers are sort of having to deal 463 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: with when it comes to making decisions to keep adding 464 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: when you sort of sign a guy for four and 465 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: a half million, you're really signing him for ten million, 466 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: but the guy's only getting four and a half million, 467 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: But they're ignoring that because they're making enough money makeup 468 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: for it. But I just see this as such a 469 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: unique case that one a salary cap won't be a 470 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: one into I don't know how effective it would even be, 471 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: especially starting that CBT that new luxury tax not luxury 472 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: task sorry CBA in a twenty seven Sorry a lot 473 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: of hyphen eight. 474 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a lot of letters, a lot of 475 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: words involved when you're talking about this kind of stuff, 476 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: and I agree. I mean, I think the thing that 477 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: makes it so difficult is the players just aren't going 478 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 2: to go for it. 479 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: The Union is not going to go for it. 480 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: You need baseball players to play Major League baseball. And 481 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we're seeing how long it takes some there's 482 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: still so many free agents out there, how long it 483 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: takes somebody like like Pete Alonzo to get a job. 484 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: You have Alex. 485 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: Bragman out here trying to get six or seven years, 486 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: which he's probably never gonna get. But they're never going 487 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: to allow, you know, limited money making for themselves, which 488 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: is totally said in a very professional and smart way. 489 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: Dodgers got good. 490 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: Other teams in the National League West, other teams in 491 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: the National League, other teams all around got better despite 492 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: so many unsigned free agents. In your opinion for the 493 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: Dodgers this year, who is going to be the biggest 494 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: competition in the National League? 495 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I think, just considering what they did this offseason, in 496 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: additions like what they were, I'd say the Arizona Diamondbacks. Obviously, 497 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: the Padres. I think you talked to a lot of 498 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: Dodgers people last year they thought the Padres were the 499 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: best team that postseason failed, including the Dodgers. They thought 500 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: the Padres were a better team. They were the team 501 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: that sort of pushed the Dodgers in different ways that 502 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: their pitching staff was deeper, their lineup was just as deep, 503 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: their bullpen was nasty. But obviously Dodgers rally back win 504 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: that series, and then you see the Padres haven't done 505 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: anything this winter. They don't get rookie Susaki, which probably 506 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: was their best avenue of being able to sort of 507 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: take a leg up. They've lost some pieces, and obviously 508 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: they're still very talented. I fully expect them to be 509 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: in the postseason race. But you look at the Arizona Diamondbacks. 510 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: They scored most runs in baseball last year, and they 511 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: add Corbyn Burns on the pitching front sort of selplement things. 512 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: You sort of look at them and they are a 513 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: very well like they're a well oiled machine when it 514 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: comes to baseball, like their team, how they sort of play. 515 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: They have a style that's very aggressive, very annoying for 516 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: teams to play against. I think Dodgers has said that 517 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: even before the Diamondbacks really made this turnaround, they were 518 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: just a pesky team to play against, and then you 519 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: shore see now they've supplemented that with a lot of talent. 520 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Their bullpen obviously was a big issue last year. That's 521 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: still a major question mark, but you look at them 522 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: on paper, that's probably the team in the division at 523 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: least that has stood out the most to me for 524 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: competition for the Dodgers. 525 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, we saw this team. We've talked about it 526 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: on the show. We saw this team play as well 527 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: as they did in the postseason pro because they actually 528 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: had to play for something down the stretch. And you've 529 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: covered this team now for a while and you saw, 530 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: I mean, twenty two entered that postseason flat, twenty three. 531 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's not necessarily flat, but there were some issues. 532 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: Now actually seeing this team have to play something to 533 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: say for something the same way they did in twenty one. 534 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: The rest of the league, the rest of the division 535 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: being better and getting better helps this Dodgers team's leaps 536 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: and bounds. Final thing I wanted to ask before we 537 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: let you get out of here and probably continue. You're 538 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: packing for a month and a half away from your house. 539 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Who is, in your opinion, the biggest X factor for 540 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: this Dodgers team in twenty twenty five. 541 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an answer that isn't Shoheo Tani 542 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: every year. So I think the non Shoho Tani sort 543 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: of division because Tani specifically this year, because he's coming 544 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: off shoulder surgery and elbow surgery, he's turning to the mound. 545 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: He just impacts so much, especially if he is able 546 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: to get back to sort of what he was offensively 547 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: last year, but also in twenty twenty three, it's just 548 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: a two way player that was he was incredibly dominant 549 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: that year before he injured his elbow again. So if 550 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: you get back to what he is in terms of 551 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: like the ceiling of this Dodgers team, obviously the ceiling 552 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: is Worlter's like how good and dominant this team can 553 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: be in the regular season all the way through. I'm 554 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: very curious to see, like what kind of role Rooki 555 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: Saki can be and how good he is off the 556 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: start off the jump, Like if he is the guy 557 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: who's sort of feeling things out for two months like that, 558 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: that's not gonna sinkers from the Dodgers season. But if 559 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: he comes out hits the ground running and is a 560 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: sort of top tier front level you can start postseason 561 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: game level pitcher from the start and is as dominant 562 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: as his talent suggests he can be. Then all of 563 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're looking at the ceiling of this Dodgers 564 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: team for this year, and you're thinking about what this 565 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: team can be historically and what it can sort of 566 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: mean throughout the World Series, and also what it means 567 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: for years to come, just because this is an older 568 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: team and then ROOKIESACKI twenty three years old, and you're 569 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: looking at all of a sudden, you have a twenty 570 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: three year old pitcher who was one of the best 571 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball. That's an exciting thing for what this 572 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: next stage for the Dodgers looks like, even beyond mookie 573 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: bats and Freddy Freeman's sun of the team. 574 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing is there's a chance and the 575 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Dodgers is going to be good for a very very 576 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: long time, and we are looking forward to checking out 577 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: your coverage of this team. 578 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: All season long. Guys. 579 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 2: That is Fabian Arda. I appreciate you joining me if 580 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: you guys want more, Fabian, he just it looks like 581 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: you did a lot of work on it. Did a 582 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: deep dive of all the pitching options, all of the 583 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: position player options that are entering camp with this team, 584 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: So guys do check that out at the Athletic give 585 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: him a follow on the social media's and all that 586 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But Fabian appreciate you joining me man 587 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: and looking forward to seeing out there in spring training. 588 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: Of course, thanks for having me. 589 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: All right on a ry, guys, let's get into last licks. 590 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: Thanks again for joining, But I want to tell you 591 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: guys once again about Paisley. She is a one year 592 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: old Ozzie mix. She is chipped, she is vaccinated, she 593 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: is house trained, and she is going soon for her SPAE. 594 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: She has also, as you guys can tell that are watching, 595 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: very very adorable and cute. She will be available for 596 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: adoption as soon as she's all healed up from that 597 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: display from that space. So please check out Gidri's Guardian 598 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: dot org for more information. Ping Alana slip into her DMS, 599 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: ask her about Ozzy or anyways that you can help 600 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: support Gidri's Guardian. 601 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: Your guys, help goes a long long way. 602 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: I promise you that before we get out of here, 603 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: one final baseball thought for the road of I'm sure 604 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: some people who are active on the on the internet, 605 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 2: on the line. I was gonna say, for some reason 606 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: saw this. Listen, we're talking about somebody's ex factor, Fabian's 607 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: X factor being show Hey, o Tani. We're talking about 608 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: global sensation. We're also talking about this. We got snow. Hey, 609 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: that's that's snow, Hey Otani, he's looking good. It was 610 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: a sculpture snow sculpture of show Hey, and of course 611 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: the world famous great Boy Decoy featured at the Sapporo 612 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: Snow Festival in Japan. 613 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: If you're talking about seriously a global superstar, you got 614 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: to look at both those. 615 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: Guys there, Showy Atani and Decoy. You gotta love that 616 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But you know, I don't want to 617 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: see snow. I want to see spring training. I want 618 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: to see palm trees, cactus trees, dirt. Baseball's being thrown 619 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: around spring trainings. Here Dodgers family, and it is a 620 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: good time to be a Dodgers fan. Thank you guys 621 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: for tuning in. Check me out later on my All 622 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: Dodgers YouTube channel. I will be live at some point today. 623 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: Haven't thought that much about it, but if you subscribe 624 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: and hit that bell. You'll know when I'm live. But again, 625 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: thank you for watching, Thank you for listening. 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