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Speaker 2: we'll talk baseball. Task is already talking Braise, but we

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Speaker 2: start with Game four of the NBA Finals. Lakers top

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Speaker 1: We want to get a pivotal game then in this

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Speaker 2: We may not, but yeah, let's break this one down, Tasks,

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Speaker 2: why didn't you get a started? What was your big

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Speaker 4: Well, it was one of those slugfests. I think we're

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Speaker 4: It was one of those gritty games. Both teams didn't

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Speaker 4: basically cutting his points down in half, mainly because Anthony

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Speaker 3: He's a little more hesitant attacking Anthony Davis because Anthony

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Speaker 3: And not to mention, I feel like eighty would guard

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Speaker 3: That was a nineteen nineties, two thousand's style of Basketball

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers back it up too. I know there's

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Speaker 2: You know, that looked like, oh, the sticking around, sticking around,

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Speaker 2: held on after Jimmy's forty. I thought the reverse in

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Speaker 2: I mean it was like the flip of Game three.

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Speaker 1: But they've been doing that now. That's partly to do

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Speaker 3: And just an ultimate Rondo rope a dope as well.

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Speaker 2: We Lebron had to give that type of energy. After

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Speaker 4: Of this finals, one of them. He kind of had

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Speaker 3: But the Lakers only.

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Speaker 2: Scored thirty four points in the paint. That's not a

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it sure feels like they're going to

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Speaker 4: do it again one more time.

434
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Speaker 3: About the only thing that CACP missed on last night

435
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 3: was his halftime interview. I thought that was hilarious. He

436
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 3: kind of just lost track of the cliches he was

437
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 3: trying to see during his second question from Rachel Nicholson,

438
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,239
Speaker 3: He's just like, yeah, good good plays. We did good

439
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 3: plays and good defense, thanks Rachel. They just took off,

440
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 3: but then he showed up again in the second half.

441
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 3: You gotta make the shots. But like you're saying, task

442
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,159
Speaker 3: missing Dragic, I think is we're seeing exactly what he

443
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: brings to the Miami Heat. Not only is he going

444
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 3: to be ready to shoot up off the dribble three pointer,

445
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 3: he's another guy who can just take the load off

446
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 3: of Jimmy Butler for a little bit when Butler's not

447
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: able to attack like he likes, and it moves everybody

448
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 3: on down the list of shot takers as well. Like

449
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero, he's doing his best. He's having some good games,

450
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: but he's not having superstar games because he's not a

451
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 3: superstar yet. He's a little overtaxed to be a rookie

452
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: out there being the secondary playmaker in a finals game.

453
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got the confidence to try and do it,

454
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 3: he's got the floaters to try and do it. But god,

455
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 3: he would still like to see an All sar. The

456
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: one was crazy. I mean when he made the floater

457
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: over at Ady, that was hilarious. That was just funny

458
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: to see somebody shoot the ball that high. And then

459
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: he made a three pointer that was almost the exact

460
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 3: same height on that shot. Good stuff, But they need Dragash.

461
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: You saw him out there before the game, basically trying

462
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: to gut it through with a torn up foot. Doesn't

463
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: look good, but he would certainly help. It'd be nice

464
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: to see somebody besides Kendrick Nunn out there.

465
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Speaker 2: Kendrick Nunn, he's bad.

466
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Speaker 3: He's bad. He wouldn't be playing if Drags was around, but.

467
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Speaker 2: He would he wouldn't.

468
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Speaker 1: That's tough.

469
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what did you think of bam Lee obviously

470
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: returning in this game from the next shoulder didn't play

471
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: in a neck breef. That was disappointing, But you know

472
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: he contributed, but we were worried and ATASKI between about it,

473
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: like could it actually sort of hurt the heat offensively

474
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: because with Kelly and the stretching and all that opening

475
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 2: up more room. I'm not sure that was the keys.

476
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: You can tell me if I'm wrong, But what do

477
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Speaker 2: you think? Firstly of Bam and then we got his

478
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 2: house there?

479
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was fine. I thought it's good.

480
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't have a hugely dominant performance, but

481
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: I thought he was moving out there. Okay, he wasn't

482
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: afraid of physical contact, so you know, he was trying

483
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: to give the Heat everything he had. I don't think

484
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent by any means. And there was

485
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: a time where he was sitting on the sidelines there

486
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: and they looked like they were really doing some work

487
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: there on his sort of shoulder arm area. So you know,

488
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those situations. If it wasn't

489
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs and the finals, he probably doesn't play this game.

490
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: But he went out there and tried to do everything good.

491
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: He's physical, he's aggressive. The one thing he needs to

492
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: work on is he does pick up some silly fouls

493
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: and that costs his team a little bit. That's but

494
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: that's something that will come with time for him. But overall,

495
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think he gave them a boost.

496
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't bad for them by any means.

497
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they need him out there, and he's a

498
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: confident guy and when he d it's crazy how sometimes

499
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: you give the ball to him in the back court

500
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, I'm just going to drive

501
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: it from here, and he goes inside and again he's

502
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 1: just he knows that the contact is coming and he

503
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: never tries to shy away from it. So you know,

504
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: he was great if he whatever he gave them last

505
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: night was going to be a bonus really because he

506
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: hadn't played in the last two games. But I thought

507
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: he was great. And hopefully he's feeling great today and

508
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: he'll have an extra day to get ready for Game

509
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: five and he can he can keep going because he's

510
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: so important to their success. And you just see out there.

511
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: I mean Dwight Howard, I don't think he played at

512
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: all in the second. I think Markeith Morris started because

513
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: you know, Bam. I thought I just thought Bam was

514
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: very good, but you know, not the same sort of

515
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: level that he was obviously against the Celtics where he

516
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: could really beat up the guys inside.

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Bam was really really good. He surprised

518
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: me the way he bounced back from foul trouble early

519
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 4: in this game, something that happened to him in game one,

520
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: and he comes up misses game two, in game three

521
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 4: and to come out and to be ye point guard

522
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: Bam for a couple of possessions, to be able to

523
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: take it to the hole, to be you know, add

524
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: fifteen points I think on six of eight shooting, I

525
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: think is everything that you could have expected Bam from

526
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 4: the offensive end. I just wondered coming in was he

527
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: going to play in the fourth quarter because so much

528
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: is on Jimmy Butler's shoulders with Goran dragas out to

529
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: be able to create. And I thought Kelly Olinick in

530
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: game three just did his job of taking Anthony Davis

531
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: away from the hoop and so it was Jimmy and

532
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: his defender. But they found a way to get Anthony

533
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 4: Davis around Jimmy Butler. Anyways, even with you know Bam

534
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: out there, it was just Anthony Davis was fining away

535
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: and they took Jimmy Butler out of his flow for

536
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: the first you know three I'm sorry after after Butler,

537
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 4: you know, had a good first quarter. Then Anthony Davis

538
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 4: and Lebron you got to give him some kudos too.

539
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: Took Jimmy Butler out of his flow and Bam did

540
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 4: close out the game. And it's it's it's our job

541
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: here in the media to overreact. So through this game

542
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: we're all saying, you know, we all, we all back

543
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: the Lakers, and they did a great job and all that,

544
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: but it is about writing the story when the ball

545
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: is in the air. So when Jimmy Butler missed that

546
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: three point shot with three minutes left and they could

547
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 4: have taken the lead, and the Lakers go on a

548
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 4: fast break and Cacp hits that one in the corner

549
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 4: and they go up four points and things are are

550
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: swinging in the Lakers direction. This could have easily easily

551
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: been a heat win and we would have been talking.

552
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 4: I think about Lebron's you know, logo ish shots that

553
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 4: he was clanking a lot of the time, and Rondo

554
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: saving his butt with a with a huge offensive rebound

555
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: on one of those. It really came down to the end.

556
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: This was this was a friggin battle. It was a

557
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 4: friggin battle. It was It's just it was just such

558
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 4: a weird, weird game. And I think, you know, we

559
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: haven't seen Anthony Davis that the dominant Anthony Davis since

560
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: game two. I think Lebron has taken the reins of

561
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: the finals MVP. I think it's his to lose right now.

562
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you that first up three

563
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: to one final situation series usually ends in five games

564
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: over fifty percent of the time, and has at least

565
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: in the finals six games forty percent of the time,

566
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, rarely going to seven. So if it feels

567
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: like we're thinking this one's over, it probably because it

568
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: is in five or six most likely, though we've seen

569
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: some three to one comebacks of course here in the bubble.

570
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: But Trey, you were agreeing there with Task when he

571
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: was saying it it's tight. I mean, eighties numbers are

572
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: pretty damn impressive. Still, despite yeah, tass is right since

573
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: game two when they said, Okay, the zone's not working

574
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 2: against him, he's killing us. Let's try and front him

575
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: a little bit more. Let's throw some bodies at him.

576
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: He has slowed down. But Anthony Davis is averaging in

577
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: the finals twenty six points per game, over nine boards,

578
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: three assists, a steal, nearly two blocks per game, and

579
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: he's shooting sixty percent from the floor fifty four point

580
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: five percent from three, and then he hasn't missed a

581
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: free throw lead, So those are good numbers. Lebron, of course,

582
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: has his lebron like numbers twenty eight, eleven to nine.

583
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: But Trey, you think right now, I guess you know

584
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: TBD in Game five, but you would have Lebron as

585
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: Finals MVP.

586
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent. He's leading the Lakers in points, rebounds,

587
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: and assists, so I think that that helps pretty much

588
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: a lock. He's also outscored Anthony Davis in two of

589
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: the lakers three wins, and Anthony Davis had a pretty

590
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: poor game when Miami pulled it off. I think Lebron

591
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: is gonna win this one, but uh, who knows what's

592
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: gonna happen. You know, eighty has hit a couple of

593
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: huge shots in this series, which will stick out more

594
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: so maybe than the entirety of Lebron's play, because you

595
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: know Lebron, you know, maybe you will not. The things

596
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: you might remember are Anthony Davis hitting a huge clutch

597
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: three pointer and Lebron having a bad first half, even

598
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: though Lebron still went, you know, seven for seven from

599
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: the line. In the same fourth quarter of the Anthony

600
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: Davis hit a three. But I think it's gonna be Lebron.

601
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: This is one of the most challenging things he's ever

602
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: had to do, and he's overcoming here.

603
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Lebron James is sneaky happy that

604
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis had a bad game three and the Lakers

605
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: lost that game because Lebron still had a good game,

606
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: so he kind of pad of his numbers and when

607
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, Lebron's numbers are going to

608
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: be better than ads. And also, I know, I think

609
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: there's five or seven media members vote after the tantrum

610
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: Lebron through after not winning MVP. Does anyone really want

611
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: to face Lebron and say sorry, you missed out on

612
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: Finals MVP too. So I think it's it's sort of

613
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: falling into his favor right now that he will win

614
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: the Finals MVP and'll ever it'll be happy. Lebron will

615
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: finally get the trophy and the Finals MVP and be happy.

616
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: But Davis, it feels like, you know, if he goes

617
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: out there and just has a monster performance, if he

618
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: really really wants to, he could really muddy the waters.

619
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: But I think this is Lebron's MVP.

620
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's why I agree with you, because I could

621
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: see Ad having a monster game, Like that's not out

622
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: of the realm of possibility. Why not a forty and

623
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: twenty from this guy? You know he could do it?

624
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: Is that good? The problem is, I think you need

625
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: to pair that with a bad game five from Lebron.

626
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: But there really isn't such a thing as bad Lebron's

627
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: games because even as bad games as we sort of

628
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: just said, was this even really that great a Lebron?

629
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: And it's still like hilariously, you know, fills the box

630
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: score has an impact on the game, So you know,

631
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: eighty to win this thing, to steal this finals MVP,

632
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: if it were to end in five, it really has

633
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: to be like him going for the forty and Lebron

634
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: what fifteen you know, like eight boards, Like, I mean,

635
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: it's so far fetched. I think the like you said,

636
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: the small number of people that vote on this thing,

637
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: if it is seven, I believe it is seven nine

638
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: ers something like. Yeah, I I'll be shocked if Lebron

639
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: doesn't get his third Finals MVP with a third franchise.

640
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: But I just want to see Hube's gonna vote for

641
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: this year. Probably can't see Pink you Be has a

642
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: vote still, he's not there yet.

643
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: Probably one if it's only people there.

644
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm guessing.

645
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, well.

646
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: Hopefully somebody votes for Jimmy Butler, Like, hopefully one vote

647
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: goes to Jimmy Butler and then five to Lebron and

648
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: five to a d We got a tie? Tie?

649
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Is it eleven? Do you know for sure?

650
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: Is eleven has been in the past? Yeah, well let's

651
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: still be eleven.

652
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: Who knows they switch it up. Okay, so we all

653
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: sound like we would be taking if you are a

654
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: betting man right now task, you're putting it on Lebron Finals.

655
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

656
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: I think the only way he loses it is a

657
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: similar situation to when andre Egodala stole it from him,

658
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: and it's about defense in twenty fifteen, when Andrea Gogodala

659
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: stole the MVP from Stephen Curry. I think we could.

660
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: We could if people want to give Anthony Davis all

661
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: the credit for stopping Jimmy Butler. Maybe a defensive player

662
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: steals it from Lebron. I don't think it's going to

663
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: be about offense, because, like you guys are saying, Lebron

664
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: plays point guard on this team. His counting stats tick

665
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: up no matter what, no matter how bad his shooting

666
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: percentage is. But there's a chance. I guess if you

667
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: think Ad did a great job on Jimmy Butler, you

668
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: give him the vote if he does that in game five.

669
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: But I find that highly, highly unlikely. And a big

670
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: part of this, I think is recency bias in this climate.

671
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: Can you remember last week? Can you remember Games one

672
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 4: in game two when Anthony Davis was an absolute monster?

673
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: I find it hard to remember. So I think just

674
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: the fact that Lebron's turning it on here in three

675
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: and four, even though he wasn't phenomenal, ads impact on

676
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: the offensive end has lessened. He hasn't been that same

677
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: guy as he was in games one. In games two

678
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: and so, yeah, Lebron's story is it's perfectly written here

679
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: to take it just to have a great game five

680
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 4: or game six and and take this thing home. He's

681
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: sending texts, it's I mean, it's I can see the

682
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: article now, right, Tim Reynolds is right in that article

683
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: right now. It's it's it's gonna come together.

684
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right. Do you think this

685
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: ends in on Friday night? Trey? I mean, know, is

686
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: this over and five? Or can the Heat, you know,

687
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: scrap this out and give us another game.

688
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: I still got faith in Jimmy to pull out one

689
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: more game, and I'd like to see the Heat have

690
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: a really good shooting game. They haven't had a great

691
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: shooting game in the finals yet. You know, they've topped

692
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: out at twelve makes from three. This is a team

693
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: that can make seventeen to twenty easily. That's a lot easier,

694
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: no doubt, when Dragaic is playing as well, hitting some

695
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: off the dribble ones and facilitating the drive and kick game.

696
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: But there is another good shooting game from the Heat

697
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: out there. You just got to hope it happens in

698
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 3: this next game. But you know, I mean the odds

699
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: are on the Lakers. I'm just having faith in Jimmy the.

700
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: Heat, sure, and if anybody needs the extra rest, you

701
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: said it the early right now, it would be the Heat,

702
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: meaning Bam to get a little more healthy Jimmy, who's

703
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: got to be exhausted. Not that all these guys aren't,

704
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: because they're all playing a lot of games over a

705
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: fairly short amount of time, especially in the finals, but

706
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: they don't play game five here till Friday night. I

707
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: thought the gap between games three and four felt like

708
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: eight days. Now, I'm gonna blame that on Trump, mainly

709
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: because god damn it, so much happens on like two

710
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: days of time here in this world. But I just

711
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: thought the gap felt so long to me. And you know,

712
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: now this one's gonna feel a little extra long, I guess.

713
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Listen, while the series is still alive, I'm

714
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: just gonna say, I think the Heat can do it,

715
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, because looks it's been close, like they haven't

716
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: been crushed at all. It's come down to a couple

717
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: of little plays if they go their way, that they

718
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: can turn it around. So I believe that the Heat

719
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: can extend this. And you know, they're gonna give it everything.

720
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: That Eric's boltra that that team they don't quit, They're

721
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: never going to stop trying anything. And Kelly olynox Gota

722
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: just calmed down a little bit on those threes last night.

723
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I thought one of them was a yeah at the time.

724
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: By the way, as well, you're talking about Tyler Hero

725
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: hit a couple of those rainbows. What about the lefty

726
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: lay up early on on Anthony Davis as if Anthony

727
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Davis is just no.

728
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: Tricks in his bag for sure? Yeah, what did you

729
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: think about Lebron though? Bulldozing over, you know, and like a.

730
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Little bit Lebron looks just like a gigantic man next

731
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: to a tiny little kid out there, and Tyler Hero,

732
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: to be fair, didn't sort of shy away from the contact,

733
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: but oh my god, he did.

734
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: He went, he flied away from you. He apparently got

735
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: touched and he was in like but but.

736
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: He you know, look, look I thought Caruso flopped more

737
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: than Tyler Hero did later in the game when Mark

738
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: Jackson wasn't a vanger, I can't remember him, just that

739
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: that's a flop.

740
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: But andanly was.

741
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyler Hero, I kind of knew he was

742
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: going to get killed and he's like, well, I'll take

743
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: my medicine. But he gets up and keeps going, so

744
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: h you know, respecting for that.

745
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: But Jeff Van Gundy was ridiculous first of all with

746
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: the Tyler Hero thing. He's like, we have almost eradicated

747
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: from the game. I don't think so, Jeff. But also

748
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: an incredible line from Mark Jackson, what's the Tyler hero

749
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 3: highlight package? This just in A hero is more than

750
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: a sandwich, Tyler. It's like, you couldn't make up something

751
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: as funny as that for a Mark Jackson joke. It's

752
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: not dissimilar to the Big Baby all grown up. You

753
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: remember this classic ctube video of a guy just the

754
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: freestyle Mark Jackson tossing for I don't know a minute

755
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: and a half, the longest throw of all time. But

756
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: what a line for that guy. A hero is more

757
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: than a sandwich. I can't.

758
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he says this just into that is just him,

759
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: Like that's why the Big Baby Davis, you know Mark

760
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: Jackson clip, that's whole larious because it feels like he's

761
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: definitely riffing on that one, and he just keeps going

762
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: and going.

763
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: I don't think that's really Mark Jackson though, right, that's

764
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: a guy, dude.

765
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: Ye, Mark Jackson himself must have dropped a big baby

766
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: old girl probably Okay, yeah, now you're right, I forgot

767
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: that was a fake. But this one, it's just like

768
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: he's written this line and he's so excited to use it,

769
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: and then puts the this just in just so and

770
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: leaves mad confused. Well, you're shaking your head.

771
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: Look what does it mean? Because that's the thing when

772
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: it happened last night. I'm looking on Twitter. I'm like,

773
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: everyone's making fun of it, but now one's saying, this

774
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: is what It's kind of like a metaphor for, Like,

775
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: what's the hell I've never heard that he's more than

776
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: just a sandwich, Like.

777
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: Oh, there's a hero sandwich.

778
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: That sounds like another word for a sub sandwich. Yeah,

779
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: nobody uses He still says a hero.

780
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 2: Never been said.

781
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, he he was going with the

782
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: classic more than here or no no no. Earlier in

783
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: the series Tyler Herro highlight you going, he would say

784
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: classic hero ball. That's that's what he would say going

785
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 4: into commercial. Now now he's throwing spaghetti at the wall.

786
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm not sandwiches at the wall.

787
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: I'm not super mad at it. I mean, it wasn't good.

788
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: It was.

789
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: It sounds like a task tweet for sure, But I don't.

790
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: Know about no way you can be my hero sandwich

791
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: can eat away the pain?

792
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, anything to add to Game four or this

793
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: NBA Finals from either of you guys. Anything, it's over

794
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: by the way, on it's over on Friday night. I

795
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: will I will plant my flag in that this one

796
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: ends on Friday, because Lebron's gonna send another text now

797
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: now this is the most important game.

798
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: Look, I don't boy and Lebron for sending texts and

799
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: laying the groundwork for his narrative, because every former player

800
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: who talks about Lebron is just telling how easy he

801
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: has it and how this would be so easy for them.

802
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: So you know, Lebron's got to advocate for himself, kind

803
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: of like how we're always telling people we're the greatest

804
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: podcast of all time. That one's true, though, really keep

805
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: repeating it and say it out last podcast we've ever done.

806
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: It's a must podcast, got the really pod hard.

807
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: He's he's showing signs of sort of being an angry

808
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: old man at times. Lebron out there as well last night,

809
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: like a couple of times he doesn't get the foul,

810
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: he lose it. And then there was the one which

811
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: was a funny challenge by Frank Vogel that actually was

812
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: successful where I think they called the ball off Lebron.

813
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: It went out and it clearly didn't touch him, and.

814
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: He went mad chat that he was doing a lot

815
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: of that last yeah to Lebron was upset with a

816
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: couple of his guys too defensive rotation. There was a

817
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: Kuzma one where and then Kuzma scored I think right

818
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: on the other end.

819
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: And then Jay Crowd as well, who gave him a

820
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: good playoff. I wasn't I don't think there's anything nasty

821
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: about it. But Lebron slapping the ground.

822
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: And Crowder got him like three times. Yeah, but I

823
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: don't think he got me, and he was physical exactly.

824
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Finals Finals fouls. I didn't see anything. I don't think

825
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I reviewed any of them for any hostile acts or

826
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: anything like that. But le Bron's slapping the ground. It's

827
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: just the guy who's been in the gym for why

828
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: too long, and he wants to get the weed and

829
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: he wants to get out of it.

830
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: Out of there.

831
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the Lakers are now fifty six and oh

832
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: this season when leading going into the fourth quarter, So

833
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: maybe that's why you didn't think the Lakers were going

834
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: to relinquish the lead their ley. They haven't all year long.

835
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: I think they'd be the only team in NBA history

836
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: if they could, you know, pull it off one more time,

837
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: or even if they don't, I guess, I guess they

838
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: could be trailing head into the fourth and still win.

839
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't think a team has done it the entire

840
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 2: entire year. That's pretty incredible in today's NBA with three

841
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: point shooting just changing games, you know, in the blink

842
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: of an eye, that is wild. That's a wild, wild

843
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: stat somehow they pull it out. Crazy stuff.

844
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: Let's jump to this quick comment before we move on here.

845
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: Greg Sinat wrote, Hey, a hero is what some people

846
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 4: call a sandwich al a hogi or a sun. Hero

847
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: comes from the Greek word ero, Right, hugeass with some

848
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: Greek fun factor. Lead with an eight minute story about

849
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: the Ads Olympics. Yeah Euro, Yeah, I guess, I guess

850
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: it is a play on Euro. That is true. That's

851
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: how you say gyro in Greek. It's accutely euro, so

852
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: you rhyme it with hero. Now let's get to an

853
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: eat minute story about the two thousand and four Athens Olympics.

854
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: Did you have a euro in you're in Athens?

855
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Probably funny, funny talking about food. I was actually extremely

856
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: disappointed with the food in Athens for the Olympics, because

857
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: Greek food is Greek food is fantilacious. It is some

858
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: of the best food you can possibly have. That's kind

859
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: of where I first started, like I.

860
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 2: Would see, Greek food is some of the best foods

861
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: you can have in Greece.

862
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Speaker 1: It's up there. The swordfish in Greece is great. Actually,

863
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: by right, I'm not a big swordfish guy, except for

864
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: in Greece. It's great with the mythos. But honestly, the

865
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: food during the Athens Olympics, they had just those spinach

866
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: and like feta what are they called?

867
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was all they had.

868
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was just the catering. I don't know

869
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: what happened. Something went wrong with the catering everywhere.

870
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: It was like summerly catering for us?

871
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: Was it?

872
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: What summerly?

873
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: For us? At least we had the hot bobbies.

874
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: That wasn't catering, that was was ordering.

875
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean great, a great fun Olympics, great city,

876
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: but great swordfish.

877
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 4: Great way you weren't eating at restaurants. You weren't eating at.

878
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Like like when you're on when you're at the events.

879
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: You know in the arenas and it was just the

880
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: same thing. It was just these the spinach and cheese

881
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: what they called something, aren't.

882
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: They They're called.

883
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: The cheese ones span.

884
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Spanic copita, I think it was. Yeah. And dol mates.

885
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: I had a lot of dorm They're great, they're great,

886
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: but next stuff.

887
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: Those are grape leaves plucked from trees.

888
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Day eight of dol Martes are you're just kind of like,

889
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: all right, I need something else, I need anything, But yeah, great,

890
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: great Olympics.

891
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: I like to I'd like to see how going to

892
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: wrap up like a weird wow.

893
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Listen. I had the race of the sentry there with

894
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Ian Thorpe and Michael Phelps and Peter Van and Hoogen Band.

895
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Oh yeah, I know.

896
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: Check that out, the two hundred meter freestyle and oh

897
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: man Ian thought wins it by a fingernail. It's a

898
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: great race, really good race.

899
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break here from our sponsors.

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00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: How expensive were those tickets in Greasely.

901
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: So you had to buy them, you had to bid

902
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: for them in advance. Oh of those Yeah, so I

903
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: ended up having to like lay out about one thousand

904
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: pounds I think in total because you had to you

905
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: know things like the swimming. You know what the hardest

906
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: one was to get to was the equestrian very very

907
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: hard to get tickets for your question.

908
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: I would would you want to watch horses? If you

909
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: had an equestrian ticket for me and you offered it

910
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: up to me, I would take that to it from

911
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: your hand and I would rip it in half of

912
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: you would miss out.

913
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: You would miss out. The question is one of those

914
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: things the Olympics where you can watch the coordination between

915
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: the jockey and the horse and it's incredible when they

916
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: do that little front foot back foot trotting and all

917
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: that dressage. You're talking to me about dressing, now I'm

918
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: talking you about dressage.

919
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, why do they give the medal to the writer?

920
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Great question point, it's it's a team. It's a team

921
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: metal though.

922
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: Really it'd be awesome if they were on the podium. Yeah,

923
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: they're only falling off and clanking their roofs.

924
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: Are un.

925
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: A horse want the podium, but they cannot walk down

926
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: the podium, that's the problem. And where are you going

927
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: to find a ribbon that big from? Hey, horse neck,

928
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: where's he going to get a rib in that big dick?

929
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: Noses and horse necks up here on this but I

930
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: got Yeah.

931
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: So I tried to get tickets to the two hundred

932
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: meters freestyle, but it was impossible because there's only there's

933
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: only a couple of thousand people in that outdoor pool

934
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: area as well. So the only tickets to swimming I

935
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: could get was the fifteen hundred meters heats. Vema's boring

936
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: event you could possibly go to because you go from

937
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: heat to the final, right, whoever just qualifies, just go through.

938
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: I think they have two heats fifteen. It takes them

939
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: about half an hour. You have no idea where people are.

940
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: It's just like up and back up and back up,

941
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: and you're just like this is the most ridiculous sport,

942
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: Like this is a waste of time.

943
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: Story.

944
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, cool story.

945
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: But it was like I've got to get to get well.

946
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to get tickets to the swimming. I

947
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: had to go to the swimming, and that was the

948
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: best they could get. Well, So swimming is awesome at

949
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: the Olympics.

950
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: Swimming if you're watching the finals, for sure.

951
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Even the heats are pretty good still because you just

952
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: had the heat stunt. The heats for the like two

953
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: hundreds and stuff like that. Good long yeah times.

954
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah sure, yeah, well you got to get tickets too.

955
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: I went to the heats for like the two hundred

956
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: meter running. The good part about that is the good

957
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: party about that. It was just a semi final, quarterfinal heats.

958
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily care. Even the guys who make it

959
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: to the finals, they're just making sure they get to

960
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: the finals. It's not incredible to watch, but unlike a pool,

961
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: you're just you just don't have a pool in front

962
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 4: of you. You can see some pole vaulting, you can

963
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: see something long dropping. You got everything and those.

964
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to get that to the one hundred

965
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: made of heats as well. And you're right, like they

966
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: sort of run and then they sort of pull up

967
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: because they're not trying to, you know, smash the word

968
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: record during the heats. And there's a lot of other

969
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: things going on.

970
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: But do you want to make the Olympics more exciting?

971
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: Put the horses in all the events.

972
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 3: Put them in the put.

973
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Them in the marathon, because I don't know if they

974
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: can handle it for that long running. It's probably not yeah,

975
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: probably not.

976
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's pix to the Uptown report. We're into

977
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: the Uptown. Report took us way longer than it should have,

978
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: but we're here, okay. First one, according to Mark Berman

979
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: of The New York Post, the Knicks are eyeing Victor

980
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: Oladipo amid off season possibilities. Leon Rose, the nixt rookie president,

981
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: has Chris Paul on his trade radar as well, but

982
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: putting together a package for Oladipo is expected to be

983
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: a higher priority. Again, according to Mark Berman and NBA

984
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: officials that he's talked to, Nick Giampscott Perry drafted Oladipo

985
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: during his time with the Magic. That could be important.

986
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: So up or down on the Knicks pursuing Oladipo's this

987
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: offseason tray makes.

988
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: Sense to me. Thank you to The New York Next

989
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: for listening to this podcast as well. I really think

990
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: that this is perfect for the Knicks because Oladipo he

991
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: wants to be a star. He wants that big media profile,

992
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: and you know, the Knicks need a star. They need

993
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: their first star to sort of turn around the franchise

994
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: and make them look a little bit more presentable to

995
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: other players out there. It wouldn't be dissimilar to when

996
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: they brought in Amari Staudemeier, which eventually led to bring

997
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: an enticeon Chandler, which eventually led to Carmelo Anthony. You

998
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: need to have the first guy who's willing to say

999
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: this franchise is no longer a disaster. That could easily

1000
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: be Victor Oladipo. He uses up a lot of possessions.

1001
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: There are a lot of possessions to be used amongst

1002
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: the next He's got some flat she highlights, he's got

1003
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: a name. But the question to me is would he

1004
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: be worth two first round picks? Because that's what Mark

1005
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: Berman is suggesting that one NBA personnel man said, Dallas's

1006
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: two first round picks twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three.

1007
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: You're guessing those are probably going to be later in

1008
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: the draft, considering Dunk Jitch and Chris STAPs are going

1009
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: to be together for a while. But you'd also be

1010
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 3: thrown in Randall, Dennis Smith Junior, or Frank nili Kina.

1011
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: That's a lot for Victor Oladipo, who will be a

1012
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 3: free agent after next season, and who is coming off

1013
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: an injury this season that he didn't necessarily look great

1014
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: in during the regular season or in the bubble. It's

1015
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: a lot to give up for Victor Oladipo, but the

1016
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: Knicks need to turn the corner. They need to start

1017
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: looking like our real competitive basketball team, and maybe bringing

1018
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: in a guy who has an all star pedigree and

1019
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 3: who wants to be a star would help.

1020
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: Oh. I would do that in a second. If I'm

1021
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: the Paces, if you get two first round picks and

1022
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: potentially Neili Keena and Randall as well, I would do that.

1023
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Oladipo is good, but he's coming off that injury and

1024
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: we've seen flashes of what he can be, but we

1025
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: still haven't seen it for sure. And that would sound

1026
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: like a classic Knicks move to do it for a

1027
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: guy with one year on his deal. Now, maybe he

1028
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: stays and maybe becomes a good player, but he's not

1029
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: the franchise alterer that they need to really change things

1030
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: around there, and to give up all that for him,

1031
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a lot. So I don't think the

1032
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Knicks would do that with that many assets giving up.

1033
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: I doubt it. But if you are the Pacers, yes,

1034
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: I do that in a second.

1035
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: What do you think tas well?

1036
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 4: I think the Knicks would definitely be chasing Victor Oladipo.

1037
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: It sure makes sense. But at the same time, if

1038
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 4: I'm the Pacers, I try and go get one good

1039
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: piece in return for him. I'm not worried about getting

1040
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: two picks that are probably going to be in the

1041
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: twenties and maybe Julius Randall. Why not go and try

1042
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: and get a decent player, somebody that's established. Why would

1043
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: you be dealing with the Knicks. Go get somebody that

1044
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 4: has a player that you want. I think that's what

1045
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 4: I would do if I was if I was.

1046
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: To have a player in mare No. Oh, no, I

1047
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: thought you were going to Saydrew Holliday or something like that.

1048
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: We gotta mean that makes sense logically for sure on

1049
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: that team, But I don't know. Listen, the picks sound

1050
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: all right that it always sounds great to have first

1051
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: round picks, but as Trey said, it's coming up in

1052
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 4: this next draft, this first one that would be deep

1053
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 4: in the draft. I can definitely see it from a

1054
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: Knicks perspective, but I don't know i'd be shopping around.

1055
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: If I was the Pacers, it probably is a good

1056
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 4: time to look into trading Victor Oldepot because even though

1057
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: he says I'm a pacer. I'm a pacer man, I'm

1058
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: a pacer. I don't care about the rumors. This smoke

1059
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 4: has been smoking for a long time, and it sure

1060
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: seems like there's some Frankie smoke fire there, you know

1061
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 4: what I mean. Sure it seems like he'd be leaving

1062
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one to me. Anyways.

1063
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Where there's smoke, there's an Olympic torch flame. Berman did

1064
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: point out in that article. I thought that was interesting.

1065
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: I slipped it in there, he says. I'm going to

1066
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 2: quote him here. What's paramount in the Knicks potential intro

1067
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: is GM Scott Perry drafted Oladipo while he was with Orlando,

1068
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: and he's still enamored with him. Once Perry falls in love,

1069
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: it's permanent. Just ask former lottery picks Mario Jizzonia and

1070
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: Alfred Payton, two recent Knicks free agents. Nineys so could

1071
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: be something there. I mean again, Perry got Oladipo. I

1072
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: would love to have him back there in New York.

1073
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I think you're gonna shop around

1074
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: Oladipo if you're the Pacers. But at the end of

1075
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: the day, if you're getting some young talent and picks

1076
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: for a guy that he thinks eventually gonna leave anyway, Well,

1077
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: then you're gonna try and make that move. I don't

1078
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: think they're gonna get as lucky as they did getting

1079
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: you know, Sabonis and Oladipo in the last type of

1080
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: move really had to do this. I think that's a

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00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: little far fetched, but they're gonna try and get as

1082
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: close as possible, of course, if they believe Olidepo really

1083
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: truly wants it. So we'll see next one here, from

1084
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: one mark with a sea to another mark with the sea.

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00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: According to Mark Stein of The New York Times, John

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00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Lucas has emerged as a candidate for the Houston Rockets

1087
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: in their coaching search. Lucas served as the Rockets player

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00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: development coach on Mike d an Tony staff for the

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00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: past four seasons, got strong working relationships with Harden and

1090
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: Westbrook upper down task John Lucas as a possibility here

1091
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: as the rockets next coach.

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00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: Well, you want to talk spelling of players' names or

1093
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: or reporters' names, let's talk about John Lucas. I like

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00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: the fact that we're just calling him John Lucas and

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00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 4: not John Lucas. The second, because his son is John

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00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: Lucas the Thirst It's very confusing. This isn't the John

1097
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: Lucas who recently played in the NBA and then was

1098
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: an assistant coach, most recently with the Wolves. I do

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00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 4: believe this is his old John Lucas in his sixties,

1100
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: sitting on the Rockets bench as a player development guy

1101
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: for the last few years. I got to go up

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00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 4: on it. I think this is sort of a personality

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00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 4: play for the Rockets because I think he is friendly

1104
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: with the Rockets stars. And you know, people will say,

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00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: this is an old guy who's been around the NBA.

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00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: He's in his mid sixties. Why not get somebody who

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00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: hasn't coached before, who has a new mind to try

1108
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: and try some different things. Well, we don't know if

1109
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: a guy's a good coach until he gets into the seat.

1110
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: And John Lucas has been around the NBA for his

1111
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: entire life. He has coached a couple places in the NBA,

1112
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: but he's been around so long. He coached the Miami Tropics,

1113
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 4: not the Flint Tropics, the Miami Tropics of the ABA.

1114
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: The guy has been around a long time, and this

1115
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: feels to me like it's kind of like Tylo being

1116
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: hired by the Cavs in twenty sixteen. A guy that

1117
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: can move over one seat, can be friends with the

1118
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: players and try and just get the most out of them,

1119
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 4: you know, emotionally, accountability wise, and see if that works.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think everybody's the general consensus will be

1121
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: he's a JB. Bickersaff, he's been around too long, he's

1122
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 4: not really moving the needle. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: if the guys respect him, like the Cavs respected Tyler

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00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: when they want, I think this could work depending on

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Speaker 4: the roster, and the roster is a little bit more important.

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Speaker 4: You got to figure that out as well.

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00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: What do you think, Trey?

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Speaker 3: I'm down on this. Too old and he's been out

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00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: of the game for too long. To me, he was

1130
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: a bad coach when he was around. He's got a

1131
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: forty percent winning percentage and he hasn't coached since the

1132
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: since two thousand and three as a head coach. Not

1133
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: to mention like Task was saying he was there in

1134
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 3: the locker room with the Rockets if he was making

1135
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: a difference with the franchise. Wouldn't that have been seen

1136
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 3: at some point with the Rockets? I think they should

1137
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: look somewhere else. I think they should probably bring in

1138
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: Sam Cassell. Maybe Tyler's the right guy, but I don't

1139
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: see the point in bringing in a retread when he's

1140
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: already been around the franchise for this entire time. I

1141
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: would like to see somebody new in there.

1142
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: That's true. Could be what a cheap owner does though

1143
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: Lee Yep, but just yeah that guy over and we

1144
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: don't want to pay somebody else.

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00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it sounds like to me. That it's

1146
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: kind of more just like Tilman. For Titt has been

1147
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: known to sort of try to say Bucks as best

1148
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: he can, and this sounds exactly like that. It's like

1149
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: he can could probably give this guy a two or

1150
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: three year contract, a fairly cheap one, and just see

1151
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: where things go. I think John Lucas has had a

1152
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: lot of success working with guys who have had substance

1153
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: abuse issues, and I think that's a very very strong,

1154
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, personality trait that he's got. But it's a

1155
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: completely different thing when you are trying to come out

1156
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: of basically out of coaching wilderness to coach in the

1157
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: NBA again for a team that has championship expectations, so

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Speaker 1: I think it would be very, very tough. However, I

1159
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: will say if James, Harden and Westbrook have a very good,

1160
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: strong relationship with him, maybe that's also what the Rockets

1161
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: are looking out saying, like, at least we know that these

1162
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: guys are going to respect the words that he says

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00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: and perform for him. So that's kind of what I

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00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: can see. But it doesn't really strike me as a

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00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: as a great move for the Rockets to hire a

1166
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: guy who just hasn't coached for for almost twenty years

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Speaker 1: in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I couldn't believe that when you said that two

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00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: thousand and three. That can't be by Spurs. I know,

1170
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: we coached the Spurs and the sixerspers as. Yeah, do

1171
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Speaker 2: you close the Clippers?

1172
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Speaker 3: Maybe not Spurs.

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00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: It feels like he's coached the Clippers.

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00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it does actually feel like he was an assistant

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00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: coach with the Clippers in twos. Lee always keeps his

1176
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: eye on the assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, maybe the head coach at the time, who

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that was nine ten. Maybe he

1179
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: missed the game and John lucas interim in time, you know,

1180
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: didn't get the actual official win. But he was a

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Speaker 1: head coach you're.

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00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Trying to hashtag. Well, actually me not even really even

1183
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: knowing this. Well, actually maybe he did.

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00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Coach Who was the Clippers coach in two thousand and nine? Ten?

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Speaker 3: It could have been Vinnie del Naeger. Let me do

1186
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: a wha job here? Whoa Mike Dunlevy. I was gonna

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00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: Kim Hughes. Kim Hughes took over for the last thirty

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00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: three games.

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Speaker 2: Kim, who.

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Speaker 3: Is this Hughes? Take it over?

1191
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: Is this Hughes? We'll play that on Saturday's podcast one

1192
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: more in the updown Report. All right, The Atlanta Hawks

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00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: will honor civil rights icon doctor Martin Luther King Junior

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00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: with a new alternate jersey next season. You're seeing it here,

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00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: everyone joining us live right now on YouTube. For the

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00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: first time in a street King's initials MLK will appear

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Speaker 2: on the front of a team's jersey. Hawks plan to

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Speaker 2: donate profits from sales of the black, gold and white

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Speaker 2: jerseys to the Atlanta community. So that's pretty cool. But Tray,

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00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: just on the look alone again as we see them here. Oh,

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00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: there's Herder in one of them. Up or down on

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00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 2: the Hawks. MLK jerseys.

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00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: Oh, easy up. I think these look great. You know,

1204
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: the black, gold and white. To me, the first thing

1205
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: I always think is OVO. But the Hawks have a

1206
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: history of using golden white in there Martin Luther King

1207
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: junior jerseys. They used it a couple of years ago,

1208
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, MLK has a legacy here

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00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. Just up the road from my place is

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00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: the MLK Historical Site. So yeah, this is very cool.

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: We got a massive election coming up here, so it's

1212
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: very cool to see the always civic minded Hawks continuing

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00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: to pay tribute to a great man.

1214
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be cool too. I mean, the Hawks

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00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: could potentially tast debut these on Martin Luther King Junior

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00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: Day on January eighteen, if next season, of course, begins

1217
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 2: in time. I mean it's possible. I know that date's

1218
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: been thrown around as a possible start date, so that'd

1219
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: be pretty cool. But what do you think of the jerseys.

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Speaker 4: I think they're spectacular. I love them. I love the

1221
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: color combination and and yeah, they're they're not OVO like

1222
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: because they have the history of using them themselves for

1223
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: their anniversary a couple of years back, and they're beautiful.

1224
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 4: I love the simplicity of them. I thought that the

1225
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: Hawks would try and sneak in another year of their

1226
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 4: Peachtree City edition jerseys because those were so spectacular, but

1227
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: they decided that somebody needed to put MLK on their

1228
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: on their uniforms for the first time and in sports history.

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Speaker 4: So these look phenomenal and uh yeah, the messaging is

1230
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 4: is great. I love the stars on the side. Yeah yeah,

1231
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: they look really really great, representing many of the times

1232
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: that that doctor King was was put in prison. That's

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00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 4: that's part of the meeting of the stars there. And

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00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: uh listen, I think the Hawks are just kicking but

1235
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 4: with their jerseys top to bottom recently, and I even

1236
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 4: like this is this is gonna nerd it up big time.

1237
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: But the micro site that they have usually who gives

1238
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 4: up flying poop about a micro site? But that's phenomenal.

1239
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: Every time the Hawks have one of these jersey unveilings,

1240
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to a micro site. I couldn't care less

1241
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: about going to one of these sites that that companies

1242
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 4: build or brands build for whatever reason. But actually it

1243
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: looks great. There's a message behind it that that's worth

1244
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 4: talking about. And the proceeds also go to h to

1245
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 4: the black community in the Atlanta area. They're not messing

1246
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: around and it is it's extending everybody's what's up on

1247
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: everybody's top of mind into next season as well. That's

1248
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: always the worry when you know, these these movements happen

1249
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: and sometimes they feel a little bit short lived, but

1250
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: everybody in the Atlanta or Hawks organization continuing it into

1251
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 4: next season is really important. In this jersey, does that.

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: Well, I assume you're up on these. You're going to

1253
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: see you're up on these, because you aren't one sentence,

1254
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: but what.

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00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 4: Do you think?

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00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they're great jerseys, but it is more

1257
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: about the symbolism of what they're actually representing here, which

1258
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: is what I like. Because there's a lot of talk

1259
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: right now about the NBA TV ratings and those critical

1260
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: of the NBA in the league are saying, you know,

1261
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: there's too much attention focused on political activism and movements

1262
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: and things like that. But I like the fact that

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00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: a team here is moving forward with these sorts of

1264
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: things and bringing awareness to social injustice issues and things

1265
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: like that, and also again helping out the community that

1266
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: particularly the black community here in Atlanta. The's a lot

1267
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: of homeless people. We see them a lot, and hopefully

1268
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: things like this can really make a difference and improve

1269
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 1: the lives of people who are less fortunate than others.

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00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: So I really like that that what the Atlanta Hawks

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00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: are doing here.

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00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: All right, thumbs up as well. Let's hear from you

1273
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: guys on Twitter at No Dunk's Ink or in the

1274
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: YouTube comments the stream team out there thumbs up or

1275
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: sums down all three of those that I just threw

1276
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: at you. We're gonna get to tweet the night, but

1277
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: we gotta take one more quick break. All right, time

1278
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: for tweeted the night.

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00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: Tweet O the night. Wow.

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: Oh right. Our tweet of the night comes from Throwback Hoops,

1281
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: who tweeted out some photos. They said Michael Jordan had

1282
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: his own McDonald's meal way before the hype. There you

1283
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 3: see it. The mcjordan meal combo came with a little

1284
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: bank shot Hoop. I guess, so you can throw your

1285
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Speaker 3: barbecue burgher through it. I don't know exactly how you're

1286
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: supposed to do that, but I responded, I said, yeah,

1287
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: maybe he did, But so did Bill Wennington, who can

1288
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: forget the beef Wennington. I think this was a Chicago special,

1289
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: but you know they will do some local, local signature

1290
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: meals as well. But i' this is in the news

1291
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: because we just had the Travis Scott meal at McDonald's.

1292
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: The next one is the j. Balvin meal. But my

1293
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: question to you guys, what would be your No dunk's

1294
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: signature McDonald's meal? Lee, I know you used to run

1295
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: a maca's back in the What are you putting on

1296
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: your tree?

1297
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you had it. In America.

1298
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: North America, we have one called the mcfeast.

1299
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: It was like mustard, ketchup, onion, pickle, cheese, tomato, lettuce.

1301
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: But it was like a quarter pounder with tomato and lettuce.

1302
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: Did you guys have that one? It might have been

1303
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: called something different. That was the best burger, but they

1304
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: got rid of it for some reason. They got they asked, Yeah,

1305
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: they changed it around so that that would certainly be mine.

1306
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: I would get bring that baby back because it was great.

1307
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: Fries.

1308
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: Don't need the super large fries. Just get a medium fries.

1309
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: The super large ones that are a bit crazy, And

1310
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean I've got I've got to sound a bit

1311
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: like a you.

1312
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: Know, a bit give me a do give me a

1313
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: water please, yeah, yeah, instead of the softdrire.

1314
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: Just don't drink softdrink.

1315
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty weird. Bring your own.

1316
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: Bottle and I'll fill it up with kombucher off the

1317
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: tap that we make you out of the back. So

1318
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: just don't drink soft drink. Don't drink soft drink.

1319
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: It's bad for you, very very bad for you.

1320
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I can't.

1321
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: I can't help it.

1322
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: There, I can't help it, you know, I just can't

1323
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: help it because like I used to drink it all

1324
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: the time.

1325
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: I used to eat.

1326
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: McDonald's every day when I worked there. And it's like,

1327
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: I can't believe I did it. Uh came out.

1328
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 3: Stronger for it. How about you. You're a McDonald's man.

1329
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: I am a McDonald's man. But as you guys know,

1330
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: I've never had a McDonald's burger in my life.

1331
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1332
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm one of these people that have only only only

1333
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you ever gotten the McNuggets? So my

1334
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: my kets deal is what it is in real life.

1335
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: It's ten chicken McNuggets here in the States. That's beautiful.

1336
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things about moving from Canada to

1337
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: the States is how cheap nuggets are out here. They're

1338
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: expensive in kid, and you only get six of them.

1339
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: They may have changed that by now, but seven years ago,

1340
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: oh come in here, yeah, ten piece of McNuggets. I'm

1341
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: with you, Elie. I don't need a large fries. Nothing

1342
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: wrong with medium fries. It's perfect. Two sweet and sour sauces.

1343
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: And then because I'm crazy Lely, I'll take a Coca cola.

1344
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wild Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's mine.

1345
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1346
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: I've never had a burger from McDonald's. I heard they're good,

1347
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: though I've never Yeah.

1348
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: Skeets goes to Chick fil A to get his burgers

1349
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: what he's feeling like food. Never had their nuggets.

1350
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 4: Though, No, Yeah, I don't know about this mcfeast thing.

1351
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: But the great part about being a kid going to

1352
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 4: McDonald's was when they had those fifty nine cent burgers

1353
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 4: or sixty nine cent cheeseburgers. Right, you have the option stuff. Yeah,

1354
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 4: so you try and try and load up try, And

1355
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: I definitely went with my big man Sets when he

1356
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: was a bit of a ta back in the day,

1357
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: and he would load up seven to eight burgers. That's

1358
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 4: all we had. It's like six bucks for seven burgers, stacking.

1359
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: Giving them away.

1360
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: That was a great time. But we would only drink

1361
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 4: water though.

1362
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: So that's the mctass is seven cheeseburgers and the water cheeseburger.

1363
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: Now, every time I go to McDonald's now, I think

1364
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go down menu and I'm not gonna take

1365
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 4: a big mac. But I don't go often enough, Like

1366
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 4: I like a McChicken. I even like a fileo fish occasionally,

1367
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 4: but I'm taking a big Mac every time I go.

1368
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: Medium fries, sweet and sour sauce as well, and I'll

1369
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 4: get a coke zero because I'm not there to lose weight.

1370
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 4: I guess I should get a coke if i'm there.

1371
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: Whatever, what's yours, tray? Uh, it's breakfast for me. It's

1372
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: gonna be a sausage McMuffin with an egg McMuffin on

1373
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: the side, two hash browns, a thing is strawberry jam

1374
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: and orange juice, and a black coffee. I know what

1375
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: you're thinking, is that two meals? Yes, that's the mctray.

1376
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1377
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: Hey, coffee is not bad at McDonald's. That's that's right,

1378
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: that's not bad.

1379
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: That's Mine's a black coffee. So it's gonna just taste

1380
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: like fire, regardless of okay, literal fire. How about you,

1381
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: j D. You got a meal or your order?

1382
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 5: And when you go to McDonald's, Oh yeah, definitely. I

1383
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 5: I don't go that often, so when I do, I

1384
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 5: go hard. Uh gotta, I'm a task. I'm with you,

1385
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: Big Mac, because I don't go that often. I'm not

1386
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 5: going off MANU. I'm sticking to the classics. Yeah, Big Mac,

1387
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 5: ten McNuggets, No fries, Lee, you don't need the fries.

1388
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 4: Get out of here.

1389
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 5: Fries and the best in the world.

1390
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: What are you talking?

1391
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 5: Just come get out of here? No, no what maybe

1392
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 5: maybe when they were using actual lard to fry them,

1393
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 5: but they but but that was twenty five years ago.

1394
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: Well yeah, Hey, I'm an old man.

1395
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.

1396
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 5: And and uh and I'm I'm drinking his shake and

1397
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 5: chocolate shake. I'm saving those calories and I'm putt I'm

1398
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 5: I'm I'm packing them on with the chocolate shake.

1399
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: You're taking that down in your car, you're going to

1400
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: drive through, you're going in.

1401
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 5: I don't like to eat or drink in my car.

1402
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, stinks it up, ye exactly.

1403
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 5: Like I like if it could be middle of winter

1404
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: in Canada, and I will drive all the McDonald's home,

1405
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 5: all the windows down because I don't want that stink.

1406
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 4: In my Wow, you just you just smoke in your

1407
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: car instead.

1408
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.

1409
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be a mcflury in your car like that.

1410
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: All right.

1411
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: Let me let me throw a quick, a real cheesy

1412
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 4: joke for you. Since we talked about the Greek Olympics, okay,

1413
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 4: and JD spent some time there as well, how does

1414
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 4: a Greek order a hamburger?

1415
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: I know the answer, so you don't know this one

1416
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: comes on and you know this one burger not cease?

1417
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1418
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of Olympics, I think D's got a

1419
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: photo there. Have you got that?

1420
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: Here we go do Wow, you look identical, man.

1421
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: That's with Penny Taylor, Australian basketball star, Phoenix Mercury star.

1422
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: That was after I watched so many Australian women's basketball

1423
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: games out there. It was great. Now you can see

1424
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: there as well. I've got my Australian soccer jersey Oakland

1425
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: Athletics hat for some reason. But that little thing in

1426
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: the front that's where all the tickets were. That was

1427
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: so cool, man. Yeah, right, right, right, yeah, all those

1428
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: stuff this, yeah.

1429
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you wearing an athletics hat because it was

1430
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: for Australia the eh, I don't know, I can't really

1431
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: remember Ricky Henderson fan.

1432
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know why I had it,

1433
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: but I did.

1434
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: Cool.

1435
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you'll show us on the next podcast

1436
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: a photo of you standing in a hat store picking

1437
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: this hat.

1438
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: Welee eating Swordfish in Grease Insurance out there.

1439
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: Trey, are you already photoshopping Lee into Swordfish?

1440
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: The movie.

1441
01:05:59,280 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: Coming out of the Wall.

1442
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a few classics Roidfish.

1443
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, let's call it there. Let's call

1444
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: it there. Speaking of the beach there in Swordfish will

1445
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: be beached stepping it up tomorrow Thursday, So you still

1446
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: have a little bit of time to get your questions

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01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: in No dunks at the Athletic dot commor tweet them

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1449
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: be back on Saturday morning to break down Game five

1450
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals, I think to wrap up the

1451
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Speaker 4: Clipper bros, you.

1465
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Speaker 3: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1466
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1467
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember it. Lee's nickname back

1468
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 4: in the year two thousand and four was Billy Bean.

1469
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: A stupid I got.

1470
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Speaker 2: Nothing to embrace the day. People, you could stay boom

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Speaker 2: every day.

1472
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 4: My dad, you happy every minute.

1473
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Speaker 2: It's been so long that your no funa wayfore.

1474
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 4: It's happened already.

1475
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Grevy