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Speaker 2: And welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gurrider, the

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Speaker 2: I'm Steve Gurridys Thursday, the summer the twenty fifth, in

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Speaker 2: the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. All right, Christmas,

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Speaker 2: my friends, we have a great show for you today.

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Speaker 2: I'll be sure to stick around for this very special

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Speaker 2: Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: Edition of AVL.

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Speaker 2: Christmas isn't just a season of lights, gifts, and celebration.

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Speaker 2: It's a moment rooted in more than two thousand years

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Speaker 2: of history. It marks the birth of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,

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Speaker 2: an event that reshaped civilization, inspired entire systems of charity

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Speaker 2: and laid the moral foundation for the Western world. For centuries,

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Speaker 2: families and communities have gathered to honor that moment, keeping

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Speaker 2: a live traditions that remind us of faith, humility, and

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Speaker 2: of course, gratitude. Today, even as some mainly liberals try

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Speaker 2: to water down the meaning of Christmas or turn it

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Speaker 2: into a generic winter holiday, it's Christian significance remains at

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Speaker 2: the heart of what we're celebrating.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, he is the reason for the season.

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Speaker 2: Christmas calls us back to the values that built this country, faith, family,

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Speaker 2: form of a child.

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Speaker 1: And that's a message worth protecting and passing on.

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Speaker 2: Jomming to discuss the history and significance of this holiday

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Speaker 2: is the historian and author of the book There Really

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Speaker 2: Is a Santa Claus William Federer. He's also the president

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Speaker 2: and founder of American Minute.

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Speaker 1: William.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being here, hey, Steve, great to be

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 1: You know I mentioned watering down Christmas.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people like to turn it into just

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Speaker 2: a winter holiday, a pagan holiday.

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Speaker 1: But it's not.

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Speaker 2: It is a significant holiday for christian second most important.

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Speaker 2: I would say, on the calendar, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Is Christmas Day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, Christianity is the largest religion in the world, about

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Speaker 3: most celebrated holidays in all.

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Speaker 1: Of the world, and actually in all the.

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Speaker 3: World history ad BC everything is dated based on the

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Speaker 3: birth of Christ. I love the quote from Clarence Manion.

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Speaker 3: He was the dean of the Notre Dame Law School,

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Speaker 3: of history stands vertical and points up right. So we

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Speaker 3: change from BC before Christ to ady ono Domini and

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Speaker 3: then of course those that when in the nineteenth century

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Speaker 3: there was this movement to say, oh before of common

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Speaker 1: They can't get away from it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I wondered that when I started seeing

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Speaker 1: History, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: You're exactly right there are more letters and codexes and

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Speaker 1: Christ than any other figure. And all the way back.

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Speaker 3: how right there. Within just a few years of his death,

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Speaker 3: the entire Gospel message was already talked about written down

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we talked about the watering down, but

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Speaker 2: Bill and so therefore they're the most targeted religion and

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Speaker 3: I was recently with a father, Calvin Robinson, an Anglican

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and Maine, in Michigan and other places. You know,

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Speaker 2: when I hear you talk, Bill, you know, in this

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Speaker 3: One of the studies that I do is I go

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Speaker 2: You know, the Bible the best selling book in the

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Speaker 1: Not the other way around. I think that's problematic, Bill.

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Speaker 2: the fact that the word is the word, isn't it exactly?

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Speaker 3: And you know, if I were to sum up all

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Speaker 2: And this brings me back to the Constitution and the

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Speaker 1: They come from God.

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Speaker 2: And that's the principle, the foundational principle of the United

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Speaker 1: Aubrey, Nice to see you, my friend. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Steve, always

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Speaker 2: You know, it feels like we've been under attack here

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Speaker 4: It's always the conscious expression of what Christ or Christmas

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Steve, I would love for your audience to

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Speaker 2: the Holy Bible. You got it, yeah, Bishop Aubrey. Shine

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad to have you here.

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Speaker 2: I know you've got a lot of things going on

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Speaker 2: and appreciate spending well.

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Speaker 1: I'll spending Christmas with you.

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Speaker 2: As the new year inch is closer, it's important the

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Speaker 2: And to ensure that President Trump can continue to make

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Speaker 1: President of the Republican Caucus, Jim Faff We were just

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of do nothing Republicans that used

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Speaker 1: Really need to focus on healthcare.

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Speaker 2: We have an opportunity now to get rid of this

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Speaker 1: I do too.

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Speaker 5: I know that our organization, I've got some friends and

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Speaker 5: experts that we've been working on a plan that we

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Speaker 5: want to be telling people about in the beginning of

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Speaker 5: the new year. There is a real opportunity through reconciliation

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Speaker 5: to really fix.

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Speaker 1: The problem that is Obamacare.

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Speaker 5: You know, Obamacare really was a I don't want to

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Speaker 5: say this, not quite a trojan horse, but a ticking

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Speaker 5: time bomb intentionally, so it was meant to help lead

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Speaker 5: us and find political opportunity to go to single payer healthcare,

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Speaker 5: the kind of systems they have in the UK and

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Speaker 5: Canada where the government decides what your health care is

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Speaker 5: going to be, when you can.

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Speaker 1: Get services, and this sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: If we put it in the free market and we

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Speaker 5: allow people to know what the prices are, just that

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Speaker 5: one thing alone could radically and positively transform healthcare. That's

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Speaker 5: why you know Donald Trump beginning with his Pennsylvania speech

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Speaker 5: earlier in the month, talking and other things, talking about

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Speaker 5: letting people we'll put money into health savings accounts and

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Speaker 5: that sort of thing. I mean that is I think

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Speaker 5: it's a brilliant entire answer, but it's a good first step.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Ran Paul has another part of the answer.

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Speaker 2: Have health associations where you take somebody like Costco with

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Speaker 2: forty four million members and say, look, we're going to

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Speaker 2: negotiate on behalf of our members better healthcare rates with

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Speaker 2: United health Care or Blue Cross or Blue Shield or

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Speaker 2: any of the big companies, right and say, look, we've

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Speaker 2: got strength in numbers. I think that's another key to

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Speaker 2: getting prices down. And getting better healthcare. Look, we cannot

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Speaker 2: continue the harvest tax dollars and give twenty percent off

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Speaker 2: the top of the insurance companies. Their profits go up,

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Speaker 2: our care goes down, while our prices continue to increase.

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Speaker 2: It is a failed system, you're right, Jim, designed to

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Speaker 2: fail from day one, in my belief, because they thought,

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Speaker 2: if we can get this through, then we know it'll fail,

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Speaker 2: then we'll four socialized government healthcare on people, and then

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Speaker 2: we've got them because once we've got them, then we

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Speaker 2: can control them more, because it's not about health care,

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Speaker 2: it's about control.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 5: And even Margaret that like what a wonderful conservative free

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Speaker 5: market thinker. Friedrich von Hayek was a friend of hers

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Speaker 5: and inspired her, and she still never would make any

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Speaker 5: move to get rid of the National Health Service, which

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Speaker 5: is their single payer healthcare system in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Even she wouldn't do it, and she was the Iron Lady.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, once you go down that path, it's almost

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Speaker 5: impossible to give back. But Republicans have an opportunity if

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Speaker 5: they would do something positive here to inspire the American

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Speaker 5: people to remember, Okay, we like this Donald Trump guy,

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Speaker 5: and we're still with him.

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Speaker 1: We might take a chance on you too, because that's

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty six, the American people are wondering if

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Speaker 5: they want to take a chance on Republicans. They did

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Speaker 5: with Donald Trump and rightly so, and I think they're

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Speaker 5: mostly happy with that, but they don't know if they're

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Speaker 5: happy with Republicans. Jet and Republicans are really good at

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Speaker 5: not giving them reasons to be happy.

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Speaker 1: So that's the tay.

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Speaker 2: You know, the market was of five hundred points yesterday,

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Speaker 2: it's up six hundred plus today, knocking on the door

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Speaker 2: of fifty thousand. Well, we might just get there the

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Speaker 2: next couple of days because of the rate cuts that

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Speaker 2: have happened.

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Speaker 1: We see the markets are doing great. We see the

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Speaker 1: gas is cheap.

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Speaker 2: It has really worked out for the American people, these

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Speaker 2: economic plans. But the Republicans are lousy Jim at marketing themselves,

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Speaker 2: at messaging. The Democrats are always locked up together, Chim chum.

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Speaker 2: The message is always the same. Hees twenty five Democrats

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Speaker 2: on a Monday. What is their word of the day. Bam,

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Speaker 2: there it is Republicans need to do a better job.

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Speaker 2: Can Republicans not find k Street.

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Speaker 1: I've been to Washington, I.

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Speaker 2: Can find K Street I can find so you can

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Speaker 2: get craft a message. Got to do a better job

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Speaker 2: because these midterms are as critical as any election we've

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Speaker 2: been through recently.

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Speaker 5: Well, actually, I think K Street is their problem. You know,

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Speaker 5: when I was we're in Capitol Hill with a former Congressman,

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Speaker 5: Tim Hules Camp.

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Speaker 1: Tom Delay came in our office.

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Speaker 5: One time and he said how much he regretted having

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Speaker 5: instituted the K Street Project, which was after the Gingrich

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Speaker 5: during the Gingrich Speakership, an effort to take the power

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Speaker 5: K Street away from Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Well, at the end of the day.

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Speaker 5: Republicans are in bed with K Street, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of members of Congress who make one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 5: four thousand dollars a year vote really bad because they

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Speaker 5: want to make sure they don't anger K Street so

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Speaker 5: they can get that three hundred thousand dollars a year job.

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Speaker 5: And about a third of rolling over members do such

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Speaker 5: a thing, or at.

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Speaker 1: Least attempt it that.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think that that's one of the most corrupting influences,

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Speaker 5: is that desire to maintain a paycheck. Because you leave

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Speaker 5: your if you're not independently wealthy, you have nothing to

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Speaker 5: fall back on once.

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Speaker 1: You leave Conra.

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Speaker 2: But that's got to change. That's got to change. And

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Speaker 2: it's the same thing with the insurance industry that has

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Speaker 2: all these lobbyists, Oh, extend those subsidies, extend those subsidies.

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Speaker 1: Same problem. Jim. Got to leave it there, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Thank you, Steve, you two greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: By from the Republican Congress.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a break right here and be

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Speaker 1: back right after this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Christmas Day edition of America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 2: Talks to end the nearly four year war between Russian

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Speaker 2: and Ukraine remains stalled as negotiators grappled with territorial demands,

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Speaker 2: including control of the eastern Danusk region and other occupies

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Speaker 2: the areas. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinsky has pushed back against

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Speaker 2: pressure to seed land, insisting that any piece deal must

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Speaker 2: respect Ukraine's sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: On the battlefield, fighting continues, with both.

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Speaker 2: Sides claiming tactical moves, including counter offensive operations around Koupiyansky

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Speaker 2: in the northeast.

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Speaker 1: In Washington and among Western allies.

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Speaker 2: Conservative voices argue that a strong negotiating position, backed by

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Speaker 2: robust defense and economic measures is key to a lasting

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Speaker 2: piece into during future aggression. Join me to discuss this

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Speaker 2: as the founder and CEO of American Ukraine Strategic Partners,

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Speaker 2: Davis Richardson. Davis, Merry Christmas, thank you for being here today.

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Speaker 2: You know, oftentimes there'll be a cessation of hostilities on

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Speaker 2: Christmas Day. Happened during both of the World Wars, but

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Speaker 2: it's not always the case. It's a sad thing that

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Speaker 2: this war just drags on, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's very sad indeed. But for first off, Merry

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Speaker 6: Christmas to you and Merry Christmas to your viewers. And

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Speaker 6: the last few Christmases have been very tough for the

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Speaker 6: Ukrainian people. You're dealing with major shortages as it relates

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Speaker 6: to the energy sector and Russia continuing to target civilian infrastructure.

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Speaker 6: You know, Ukraine right now is being run on a

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Speaker 6: lot of generators, and you know, heat for the winter

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Speaker 6: is very, very important, and it's up for It's up

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Speaker 6: to the Ukrainian people and the United States to stand

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Speaker 6: up to this type of brutality that we're seeing from

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Speaker 6: the Russian military.

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Speaker 2: You know, the problem here is the problem I made

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Speaker 2: clear on this program two years ago three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Russia is stalled in its advances, but it's not going

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Speaker 2: backwards either. I don't know if you get to peace

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Speaker 2: without seating the don Bas, without seating portions of eastern Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: You can get there.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't frankly trust either side. I don't trust Putin.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of Zelensky, and I don't

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Speaker 2: see that we get to a peace deal here unless

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Speaker 2: Ukraine says sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: In the national borders are adjusted. Your thoughts on that well.

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Speaker 6: And oftentimes in the best kind of deals, as President

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Speaker 6: Trump outlines in the Art of the Deal, you know,

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Speaker 6: both sides feel pain, you know. That being said, as

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Speaker 6: it relates to territorial concessions. On Ukraine side, there's no

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Speaker 6: reason for them to give U territory that Russia hasn't conquered,

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Speaker 6: you know, obviously, it's a different it's a point of

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Speaker 6: discussion as it relates to Crimea and other areas which

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Speaker 6: are currently under Russian occupation. That being said, for areas

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Speaker 6: where there's still a front line, where Ukraine remains active

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Speaker 6: and pushing back this type of brutality, I don't see

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Speaker 6: a reason why Ukraine should have to preemptively relinquished territory

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Speaker 6: on that front. So again, best agreements, both sides feel

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Speaker 6: some kind of pain, and there do need to be

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Speaker 6: proper security guarantees that the United States puts in with

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Speaker 6: Ukraine so we don't just have another repeat of this

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Speaker 6: in a few years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly Ukraine made a deal with the world basically

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Speaker 2: after the fall of the Warsaw Pact nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Surely after that Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons because

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Speaker 2: they were told, they were promised the territorial integrity would

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Speaker 2: be respected. It hasn't been. But again we're in the

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Speaker 2: spot where I don't know how you move forward. And

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Speaker 2: I agree with you you shouldn't give up land that

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Speaker 2: hasn't been conquered. But what about that land that has

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Speaker 2: been taken by Russia Crimea in twenty fourteen, What do

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Speaker 2: you do?

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Speaker 7: Well? I think you know.

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Speaker 6: President Trump is doing his best right now to look

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Speaker 6: at all options that are currently available, including with the

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Speaker 6: Tsar Parisia power Plant and including the unlocking of Frosian

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Speaker 6: Russian assets to fund Ukraine's reconstruction. We see a tremendous

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Speaker 6: role for the private sector to actually come in and

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Speaker 6: play the role that USAID was supposed to be playing

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Speaker 6: with providing aid and you know, economic development opportunities to

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Speaker 6: these frontline communities but largely failed under the previous administration.

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Speaker 6: With President Trump, you're seeing an emphasis on DFC, the

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Speaker 6: Developmental Financial Corporation that was actually started during his presidency,

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Speaker 6: and this looks to de risk political investments in the

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Speaker 6: region and essentially operate as a US sovereign wealth fund.

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Speaker 6: So you can't have reconstruction without proper both security guarantees

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Speaker 6: and also political risk insurance. So I think we'll be

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Speaker 6: seeing a lot of role from the DFC going forward

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Speaker 6: as well with this.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the time frame on is getting

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Speaker 2: something accomplished? I mean, Donald Trump has made this his

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Speaker 2: primary focus. He's ended some other wars. We've seen conflicts

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Speaker 2: comeing do ahead into an end for the Republic of

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Speaker 2: Congo and Rwanda, most recently at the White House.

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Speaker 1: But is there a timetable here?

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Speaker 2: It's a process, I realized, But is this process drags on?

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Speaker 1: People die?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: Russian President Vladimir Putin is certainly a master manipulator, and

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Speaker 6: he's certainly dragged this on longer than anybody wants to

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Speaker 6: see in terms of, oh, we're this close to getting

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Speaker 6: to a peace agreement. Keep in mind, these negotiations right

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Speaker 6: now are not necessarily involving Russia. It's between the US

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Speaker 6: and Ukraine, and in terms of what gets presented to Russia.

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Speaker 1: So we know that Russia is.

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Speaker 6: Certainly stalling these up and using that time in the

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Speaker 6: negotiations to kill more Ukrainians and to buy more time

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Speaker 6: and have more leverage. So President Trump understands peace through strength,

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Speaker 6: and we really need to be seeing more of that

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Speaker 6: because this is a killer that you're dealing with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So again, it's a process. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: we get there, Davis. It's been a long and horrible

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Speaker 2: war as it grinds on, and I think grind is the word.

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Speaker 1: I certainly hope for peace in the new year. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you the last word.

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Speaker 6: Well, your previous guest was speaking on Merry Christmas, and

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Speaker 6: you know, the United States is a Christian nation. Ukraine

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Speaker 6: is also a Christian nation, and a lot of Christians

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Speaker 6: have been killed during this by the Russian military. They've

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Speaker 6: deliberately targeted Protestant churches Ukrainian Orthodox churches. There's a really

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Speaker 6: great documentary by the filmmaker Steven Moore, who we've met

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Speaker 6: in Ukraine and has done a terrific job with advocating

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Speaker 6: for these issues. So you know, Russia has done a

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Speaker 6: very successful pr job at framing itself as a as

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Speaker 6: a Christian nation, but Christian nations don't invade their neighbors

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Speaker 6: and kill Christians. Ukraine is you know, absolutely leading the

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Speaker 6: fight in terms of both democracy but also Judeo Christian values,

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Speaker 6: like your guests previously touched on.

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Speaker 2: Davis, thank you so much for being here again. Merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas to you. We hope the war ends soon.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for having me. How go anywhere?

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Speaker 2: This Christmas Day edition of America's Voice Live will continue

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Speaker 2: after a short break.

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Speaker 1: America's Voice Live on this Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: United States has significantly stepped up pressure on Venezuelan president

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Speaker 2: and dictator Nicholas Maduro's regime amid mounting geopolitical tension. Earlier

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Speaker 2: there's about the Treasury Department slapped fresh sanctions on three

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Speaker 2: of Maduro's wives, nephews, and several shipping companies tied to

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Speaker 2: Venezuela's oil sector, accusing them of aiding a corrupt Narco

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Speaker 2: Terras network and facilitating illegal and illsted activities. This move

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Speaker 2: follows US forces seizing an oil tanker near Venezuela's coast

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Speaker 2: that had been transporting sanctioned crude oil. Step Washington says

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Speaker 2: as part of the broader effort to disrupt drug trafficking

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Speaker 2: and hold Maduro accountable. To discuss this, retired Air Force

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Speaker 2: colonel and host of the Rob Manis Show, Colonel Rob Manis, Colonel,

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Speaker 2: thank you for.

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Speaker 1: Being here and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 7: Very Christmas, Steve, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, I mean I read on social media

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Speaker 2: that were criminals because we stopped a boat with millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars of oil that is sanctioned oil under the

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Speaker 2: under the terms of engagement that we've put in play.

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Speaker 2: Did we do anything wrong here, because if you read

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Speaker 2: social media on the left, you think.

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Speaker 1: Man, we committed a crime here.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, oh, absolutely not. This as well within both

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Speaker 7: international law law and the laws of armed conflict, Steve,

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Speaker 7: you know we're on the high seas. This is sanctioned oil.

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Speaker 7: This vessel was illegally transporting this oil and we have

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Speaker 7: every right to not only stop it, but seize the

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Speaker 7: vessel and seize its cargo. And that's exactly what we did.

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Speaker 7: And this is not anything that the United States military

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Speaker 7: hasn't been doing for many many years around the world

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Speaker 7: to enforced sanctions. Uh, It's happened many many times in

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Speaker 7: the Middle East and the Persian Gulf, the Arabian see,

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Speaker 7: the Red Sea and those areas, and it's going to

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Speaker 7: happen again. So it's not just about blowing up drug boats,

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Speaker 7: is it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I want to touch on that because

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Speaker 2: the one time the Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act of

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, you know they say, well under what authority,

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Speaker 2: that those in the left say under one authority, Well,

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Speaker 2: under the authority the Maritime Drugs Law Enforcement Act of

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, authored by the way, by a guy

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Speaker 2: by the name of Chuck Schumer when he was in the.

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he co authored it and sponsored the bill

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Speaker 2: that not only made this part of our I don't know,

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Speaker 2: our arsenal of weapons to stop the drug trafficking, he

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Speaker 2: championed it. So did Joe Biden nineteen eighty nine, telling

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Speaker 2: George H. W. Bush, you need to hit him where

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Speaker 2: they live. Well, gee, Rob, we're doing that now and

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Speaker 2: they've changed the page.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, this is illegal. Look, Chuck Schumer, you

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Speaker 1: authored the bill.

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Speaker 2: That made this part of the NDAA of nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: Here we are.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, blowing up drug boats was real

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Speaker 2: common in the eighties and nineties.

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Speaker 1: We did it a lot, So this is nothing new.

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Speaker 2: The only thing different is that it's Donald Trump doing it,

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Speaker 2: and they hate anything he does.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's nothing new at all. You might have noticed

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Speaker 7: that the United States ost Guard led the operation to

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Speaker 7: a seat board and seize the oil tanker, and that

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Speaker 7: was because they were operating under that law. And Chuck

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Speaker 7: Schumer could say whatever he wants. The Left can scream

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Speaker 7: however much they want. They just have trumpt derangement syndrome,

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Speaker 7: like a lot of Republicans apparently do too. And it's

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Speaker 7: just that anything Donald Trump happens to try as president

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Speaker 7: of the United States has to be wrong, and we're

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Speaker 7: going to oppose it. Unfortunately, though, that is very dangerous

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Speaker 7: for the country and for ourselves from a domestic situation theeve,

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Speaker 7: this is not the time to further divide the American people.

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Speaker 7: This is a good time and opportunity here at Christmas

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Speaker 7: time to reach out to one another and talk to

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Speaker 7: one another from a sane perspective and recognize that our

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Speaker 7: president has the best interests of this country and the

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Speaker 7: American people in when he's conducting these operations, and that's

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Speaker 7: exactly what it's focused.

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Speaker 2: You know, My question to those that are opposed to

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Speaker 2: taking out drug boats is who side you're on?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Apparently they missed the headline that this fentanyl is sprinkled

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Speaker 2: in cocaine, in marijuana, it's put into fake prescription medications

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Speaker 2: like xanax or opioids, and people die. In fact, today

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Speaker 2: there's somebody alive right now. It's going to die because

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Speaker 2: they're going to smoke a joint with fentanyel in it

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Speaker 2: that they're unaware of. They're going to die today before

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Speaker 2: the hour strikes midnight.

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Speaker 1: That's going to happen. Rob, The focus is on the

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Speaker 1: wrong thing.

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Speaker 2: What about the families, the mothers, the fathers, the sons,

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Speaker 2: the daughters that lose people to this deadly scourge every

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Speaker 2: single day.

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Speaker 1: That's where the focus needs to be in my belief.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, Oh, absolutely, I think the President used a number.

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Speaker 7: The other day when I was watching one of his

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Speaker 7: press copperass and he said, for every time we destroy

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Speaker 7: one of these drug boats, we're saving twenty five thousand

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Speaker 7: American life lives, if you want to quantify it from

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Speaker 7: that perspective, And think about this. In Vietnam, we lost

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Speaker 7: what sixty seven thousand Americans in that war, and you're

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Speaker 7: talking about every time you hit one of these votes,

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Speaker 7: and we've hit about thirty of them. Now you're saving

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Speaker 7: twenty five thousand American lives, most of them young people.

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Speaker 7: That is an amazing statistic, And more importantly, it just

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Speaker 7: shows you where the heart of the American people were

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Speaker 7: when they voted for Donald Trump and put him back

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Speaker 7: in office in this miraculous victory that he had, becoming

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Speaker 7: only the second president of the United States a service

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Speaker 7: second term after a gap in terms, and under the

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Speaker 7: circumstances that he was in having been indicted. They wanted

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Speaker 7: to put him in prison. They tried to kill him,

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Speaker 7: They destroyed his family, tried to destroy his family. They've

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Speaker 7: gone after his friends and in supporters and members of

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Speaker 7: administration legally and really hurt a lot of people in

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Speaker 7: order to get at him. And he still has the

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Speaker 7: heart and love for America and for the American people

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Speaker 7: to step out and give this kind of order and

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Speaker 7: conduct this kind of operation even though that he's going

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Speaker 7: to be criticized, maybe even be facing legal issues again,

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Speaker 7: and he does it anyway, and it's all out of

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Speaker 7: love for this country and hurt people.

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Speaker 2: Well, Rob Maine, I's I always appreciate talking to me.

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Speaker 2: You my friend again, Merry Christmas. Thank you for taking

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Speaker 2: time today. We truly appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Steve. Merry Christmas to our whole country.

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Speaker 2: There you go, all right, after the break, we'll have

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Speaker 2: a story that reminds us of just how wonderful America is.

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Speaker 2: Plus your answers to the Our America's Voice question today,

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Speaker 2: what is your favorite Christmas movie?

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Speaker 1: Think about it. I'll be right back all right. What

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Speaker 1: makes America wonderful?

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Speaker 2: We do it every day to put hope in your

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Speaker 2: soul and a smile on your face.

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Speaker 1: How about that.

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Speaker 2: Today's stories comes to us from Louisa County High School,

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Speaker 2: where an automotive club gives back to his community. An

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Speaker 2: automotive tech program offered Luisa County High School gives the

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Speaker 2: eleventh grade class cohort hands on experience with vehicles and

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Speaker 2: the intricacies of them, teaching them every little thing from

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Speaker 2: basic mechanic repairs to how it cars.

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Speaker 1: Electrical system works which always stymied me. Furthermore, the students.

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Speaker 2: Often repair cars for teachers, fellow students, and local residents

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Speaker 2: at a reduce price, making for active learning as the

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Speaker 2: students see how their efforts really help real people. And

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Speaker 2: in the spirit of giving, we wanted to highlight Luis's

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Speaker 2: Highest Giveaway program where the students work on a donated

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Speaker 2: vehicle and then turn around and give it to single

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Speaker 2: moms who have transportation problems, an effort that brings genuine

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Speaker 2: smiles all the way around. Hands on experience is the

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Speaker 2: best way to learn, and the students Luisa Highest automoti

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Speaker 2: Attacker getting enough of that, but to then turn around

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Speaker 2: use their skills for a good cause remind us of

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Speaker 2: what makes America wonderful and giving it is givving, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: What is your favorite Christmas movie? By the way, what's

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Speaker 2: your favorite Christmas movie? That's a question of today. Nancy

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Speaker 2: Levi Smith says, a Christmas story for laughs and for action,

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Speaker 2: it's die hard. There it is die hard. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a Christmas movie. People say it's not a Christmas movie.

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Speaker 2: I think it is Koya catch em A year without

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Speaker 2: a Santa Claus.

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Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with that one. Did I miss something

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Speaker 1: on that one?

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Speaker 2: Guy?

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Speaker 1: I must have missed that film.

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Speaker 2: Deborah foul writes Christmas Story. But Darren McGavin Home Alone

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Speaker 2: two in New York love those. Christine Longmyer hands down

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Speaker 2: a Christmas story. You'll shoot your eye out. Yeah, where's

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Speaker 2: your Red Rider? Kay zagat Christmas Vacation with the original

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Speaker 2: two Home Alone movies a close second and third. I

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Speaker 2: love John Hughes movies fair enough. Strickland has this definitely

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Speaker 2: Christmas Vacation. That is a classic, no question, Bea Williams.

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Speaker 2: It's a wonderful life. That's my personal favorite. Back of

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Speaker 2: there it is. It's a wonderful life. No, mister Potter,

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Speaker 2: I don't have to think about it at all. The

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Speaker 2: answer is no. See no, that's the best I got.

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Speaker 2: Michael Wiggins a Christmas Story from nineteen eighty three. Patty

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Speaker 2: Goodoppoitis Davis. It's a wonderful life. It is a wonderful life.

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Speaker 2: Patty there it is sky King Scrooge. You Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know anyhow. From all of us here, a real

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Speaker 2: America's voice, we wish you were Merry Christmas. Glad you

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Speaker 2: could spend some time with us here today. I hope

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Speaker 2: all of your Christmas wishes come true, and from all

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Speaker 2: of us here, have a wonderful and merry Christmas