Speaker 1: Hello, Alphabet Boys listeners. This is Benadair. I'm the co
Speaker 1: creator of Alphabet Boys with Trevor Aronson, and I'm dropping
Speaker 1: into your feed today to tell you about a new
Speaker 1: true crime podcast that's out this week that I know
Speaker 1: you are really gonna love. It's a true crime story
Speaker 1: called The Burden, Get the Money and Run, and it's
Speaker 1: got everything you want in a great story. It's got
Speaker 1: high speed chases, a methodical police pursuit, a murder that
Speaker 1: changes everything. But it's also a lot more than that.
Speaker 1: Tackles big human themes about love, loss, forgiveness, all told
Speaker 1: through the story of a man named Joe Loya, who
Speaker 1: at one time was one of Southern California's most prolific
Speaker 1: bank robbers. Again, it's called The Burden, Get the Money
Speaker 1: and Run, And it all started with this one question
Speaker 1: that I wanted to find out the answer to, how
Speaker 1: on earth does someone become a bank robber? How do
Speaker 1: you rob a bank? For the very first time? Then
Speaker 1: I met your and I got to ask him how
Speaker 1: much had you plan this all out in advance? What
Speaker 1: did you know going into it? How are you going
Speaker 1: to go in? How are you going to get away?
Speaker 2: None?
Speaker 1: None?
Speaker 2: None.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just rob a bank with no plan,
Speaker 1: can you.
Speaker 2: What I do remember about the day is this, I
Speaker 2: started ten. I walked into the first bank, and I
Speaker 2: grab a slip and I write, we have a bomb,
Speaker 2: just a bank cropper, and I wrote a bank robbing note.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like a fucking I don't want to
Speaker 2: do this year. For some reason, this doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2: I start walking away, and as I walk away, there's
Speaker 2: like three cameras that me at the door, and I realized,
Speaker 2: I think I could have been busted, right if anyone
Speaker 2: just kind of like you know, zoomed in on the
Speaker 2: guy who was writing something on the back of that slip,
Speaker 2: they could have seen I was trying to rob that bank.
Speaker 2: So I wrote my next one, next note at McDonald's,
Speaker 2: just run it there. And I would walk in the
Speaker 2: banks and I would leave them all day long, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I would walk in and I would stand in line,
Speaker 2: go a couple of steps up, a couple of customers
Speaker 2: would be going, and I'd like, nah that I don't
Speaker 2: got a feel for this. I'd walk in, I'd see,
Speaker 2: you know, gards, Noah, God, I swear to God, man,
Speaker 2: I probably nibbled a little bit of food from every
Speaker 2: fast food joint available at the time, KFC, Wendy's. If
Speaker 2: this was a short film, it would be a comic
Speaker 2: film because you would see me going in They're okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. And the
Speaker 2: next thing, we'd see me drinking coffee at McDonald's. You
Speaker 2: see me, Okay, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: all fucking nerve you in there. The next scene, I'm
Speaker 2: biting the whopper at work, like it would just be okay,
Speaker 2: let's do it, Let's do it, Taco Bell, let's do it, Wendy.
Speaker 2: It was like fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1: Where were you feeling inside?
Speaker 2: Fear? I was just like, at this point, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to jail, just dandy and line thinking about robbing
Speaker 2: a bank. When I go do this next thing, this
Speaker 2: is the real thing. So I know that on the
Speaker 2: other side of this is a payoff, a big payoff,
Speaker 2: because when you run past your fear, then it cannot
Speaker 2: harass you anymore. On this side of it, it's a big, dark,
Speaker 2: menacing curtain and it's saying try to come back here.
Speaker 2: See what the fuck's gonna happen, and you're like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to open that curtain. Oh fuck.
Speaker 2: Once you open that curtain, that curtain fucking evaporates. There's
Speaker 2: no more curtain. You can turn around, like, where's that
Speaker 2: freaking curtain? It was menacing me. There's no curtain. And
Speaker 2: that's what you have to do. You have to push
Speaker 2: past your fear to get to the next level.
Speaker 1: Right now, walking in and out of these banks all
Speaker 1: day staring at that curtain.
Speaker 2: Ah, that curtains just like taunting me, you fucking punk.
Speaker 2: And I knew that I had this in me where
Speaker 2: I could cough up a nutsck and do something if
Speaker 2: I need to do it now. All day I wasn't
Speaker 2: coughing up the nutsck all day. I was not calling
Speaker 2: up my courage. It would just go so, we want
Speaker 2: to get me so far, and then to peter out.
Speaker 2: But I was like this point, I was like, this
Speaker 2: is We're doing it. We're doing it right now. Fuck
Speaker 2: all the bullshit, Let's go do this.
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Speaker 1: five is Get the Money and Run, and it's available
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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna love it.