1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hello, Alphabet Boys listeners. This is Benadair. I'm the co 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: creator of Alphabet Boys with Trevor Aronson, and I'm dropping 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: into your feed today to tell you about a new 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: true crime podcast that's out this week that I know 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: you are really gonna love. It's a true crime story 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: called The Burden, Get the Money and Run, and it's 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: got everything you want in a great story. It's got 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: high speed chases, a methodical police pursuit, a murder that 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: changes everything. But it's also a lot more than that. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Tackles big human themes about love, loss, forgiveness, all told 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: through the story of a man named Joe Loya, who 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: at one time was one of Southern California's most prolific 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: bank robbers. Again, it's called The Burden, Get the Money 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: and Run, And it all started with this one question 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: that I wanted to find out the answer to, how 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: on earth does someone become a bank robber? How do 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: you rob a bank? For the very first time? Then 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I met your and I got to ask him how 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: much had you plan this all out in advance? What 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: did you know going into it? How are you going 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: to go in? How are you going to get away? 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: None? 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: None? 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: None. 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just rob a bank with no plan, 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: can you. 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: What I do remember about the day is this, I 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: started ten. I walked into the first bank, and I 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: grab a slip and I write, we have a bomb, 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: just a bank cropper, and I wrote a bank robbing note. 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: And then I'm like a fucking I don't want to 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: do this year. For some reason, this doesn't feel right. 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: I start walking away, and as I walk away, there's 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: like three cameras that me at the door, and I realized, 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: I think I could have been busted, right if anyone 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: just kind of like you know, zoomed in on the 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: guy who was writing something on the back of that slip, 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: they could have seen I was trying to rob that bank. 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: So I wrote my next one, next note at McDonald's, 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: just run it there. And I would walk in the 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: banks and I would leave them all day long, you know, 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Like I would walk in and I would stand in line, 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: go a couple of steps up, a couple of customers 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: would be going, and I'd like, nah that I don't 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: got a feel for this. I'd walk in, I'd see, 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: you know, gards, Noah, God, I swear to God, man, 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: I probably nibbled a little bit of food from every 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: fast food joint available at the time, KFC, Wendy's. If 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: this was a short film, it would be a comic 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: film because you would see me going in They're okay, 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. And the 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: next thing, we'd see me drinking coffee at McDonald's. You 53 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: see me, Okay, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: all fucking nerve you in there. The next scene, I'm 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: biting the whopper at work, like it would just be okay, 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: let's do it, Let's do it, Taco Bell, let's do it, Wendy. 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 2: It was like fucking hilarious. 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Where were you feeling inside? 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Fear? I was just like, at this point, I'm not 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: going to jail, just dandy and line thinking about robbing 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: a bank. When I go do this next thing, this 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: is the real thing. So I know that on the 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: other side of this is a payoff, a big payoff, 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: because when you run past your fear, then it cannot 65 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: harass you anymore. On this side of it, it's a big, dark, 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: menacing curtain and it's saying try to come back here. 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: See what the fuck's gonna happen, and you're like, I 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: don't know if I want to open that curtain. Oh fuck. 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Once you open that curtain, that curtain fucking evaporates. There's 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: no more curtain. You can turn around, like, where's that 71 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: freaking curtain? It was menacing me. There's no curtain. And 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: that's what you have to do. You have to push 73 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: past your fear to get to the next level. 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Right now, walking in and out of these banks all 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: day staring at that curtain. 76 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: Ah, that curtains just like taunting me, you fucking punk. 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: And I knew that I had this in me where 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: I could cough up a nutsck and do something if 79 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: I need to do it now. All day I wasn't 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: coughing up the nutsck all day. I was not calling 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: up my courage. It would just go so, we want 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: to get me so far, and then to peter out. 83 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: But I was like this point, I was like, this 84 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: is We're doing it. We're doing it right now. Fuck 85 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: all the bullshit, Let's go do this. 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: To hear what happens next. Subscribe to The Burden Season 87 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: five is Get the Money and Run, and it's available 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts to search up the burden. 89 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna love it.