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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Here Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you are listening, hope that

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Speaker 1: you are having a wonderful, wonderful into your week. And

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Speaker 1: it's nice to be able to add to that with

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Speaker 1: the Brave victory at three to one victory for the

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Speaker 1: Braves over the Blue Jays to start this weekend series

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Speaker 1: against Toronto. But of course we've got multiple games to discuss,

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Speaker 1: plenty to discuss, and is always one of the best.

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Speaker 1: I always a privileged to get to talk with this gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: My podcast partner Steven Tolbert, Steven, Hope you've been well.

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Speaker 1: It's good to talk with you again about a victory,

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Speaker 1: but plenty to get into over the past couple of games.

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Speaker 2: Yoh, what's up, Sean, Yeah, it's been you know, the

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Speaker 2: last couple of games has kind of been a perfect

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Speaker 2: microcosm of the Braves season. To be honest, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you hadn't if you hadn't watched for the last

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Speaker 2: four or five months and you wanted to understand what

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Speaker 2: it's like to watch Braves games this year, just watch

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Speaker 2: the last two games and that is a perfect encapsulation

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Speaker 2: of what the season has been like so far with maddening,

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Speaker 2: you know, just unbelievably inconsistent offense, incredible pitching, incredible back

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Speaker 2: into the bullpen, and you know I'll win and a

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Speaker 2: loss in the last two games and that kind of

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Speaker 2: sums up the Braves twenty twenty four. But yeah, we

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Speaker 2: got a lot to get to tonight and obviously a

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Speaker 2: couple of games talk about, you know, a big stretch,

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Speaker 2: the playoff standings, how close they are so but it's

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Speaker 2: always good to do these with you.

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Speaker 1: Man, absolutely, and we'll get into the pitching first and

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Speaker 1: then really dive in a bit to the hitting, because

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Speaker 1: I do want to get your thoughts on the hitting

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Speaker 1: or the lack of the hitting that's been there. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Hammer Tarrat always a pleasure to be with you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you again so much for the support, and we are

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Speaker 1: very happy to continue to cover the Rays through the

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Speaker 1: home stretch of the season and hopefully what will lead

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Speaker 1: to another playoff appearance for the Braves, and of course

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: But Stephen, it's no secret what we're going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It's been the theme of our podcast over the past

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Speaker 1: three weeks. The Brave Starters now twenty four straight appearances

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Speaker 1: twenty four straight outings by a starter for the Braves

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Speaker 1: in which they have allowed three or last run. Sara

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Speaker 1: Lang's showed it on ex Twitter earlier tonight. It's emerging

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Speaker 1: as one of the longest streaks that the starting pitching

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Speaker 1: staff has ever had. Ronaldo Lopez and Max Read, both

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Speaker 1: who experience injuries in the early and mid part of August.

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Speaker 1: Over the past three weeks, they've come back to form

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Speaker 1: with Chris Selle a trio that was so good at

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Speaker 1: times in the first half. But Stephen, I'll first let

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Speaker 1: you talk about these two games and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into a bit broader question. But from these games, Ronaldo

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Speaker 1: Lopez a career high live in strikeouts. Max Reed was

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Speaker 1: on his game tonight as well, working out a couple

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Speaker 1: working out of a couple of jams, but overall was

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Speaker 1: pretty much in command. The thing that stands out to

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Speaker 1: me about both Max Freed and Ronaldo Lopez they are

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Speaker 1: in their first half form and it's really good to

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Speaker 1: see not only how consistent they are, but how dominant

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially for Max and Ronaldo right coming

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Speaker 2: back from injury. Weren't sure what you were gonna get,

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Speaker 2: and they have literally picked up right in the middle

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Speaker 2: of this long stretch. I think it's twenty five games

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Speaker 2: now after tonight of you know, three runs or less.

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Speaker 2: It's really incredible stuff. You know, the strikeouts have been

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Speaker 2: maybe the most encouraging part. The Braves are striking out

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Speaker 2: a ton of hitters, not just Chris Sale, but you know,

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Speaker 2: Ronaldo had eleven k's the other night, Max had a

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's the thing that's keeping the

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Speaker 2: one of their you know, patented lolls that we've seen

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's I talked about this with Scott

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Speaker 2: Just on the results on the field, you know, giving up.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Braves are giving up the fewest runs

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Speaker 2: the they have become the Seattle Mariners, you know. I

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing that I'll ask you I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to jump ahead here, but I do think

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Speaker 1: comes to this Braves team right now, Steven I talked

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Speaker 1: with you about it before the podcast, I legitimately would

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Speaker 1: feel confident of putting this starting staff for the Braves

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Speaker 1: Sale then freed than Rinaldo Lopez. And even when you

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Speaker 1: the point what I'm getting that is is that we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about why it's still in doubt that

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Speaker 1: we're going to get there, but if we can get

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Speaker 1: They truly, in my opinion, could form a trio between Sale,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean we've talked about it a bunch,

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Speaker 2: You know, the pitching side is not giving up anything again.

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Speaker 2: They are number one in baseball. They've given up the

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Speaker 2: And if the Braves offense contributes at all, I mean

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Speaker 2: just a little bit, then the Braves could literally they could.

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Speaker 2: They could absolutely march to the World Series with this

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Speaker 2: the Braves are currently tied for that last spot, and

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Speaker 2: you got to get in before it matters. So that's

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the thing that Kanda has played

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Speaker 1: And you know, Steven, you use the word microcosm, you

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Speaker 1: the frustrations that have been bubbling up for the team,

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Speaker 1: for the fan base all year long. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the offense. Last night, the Braves were actually up

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Speaker 1: by one one run. And I find it very you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's very telling is because last year

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Speaker 1: and honess And that's absolutely what happened. But I bring

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Speaker 2: Something needs to change next year. I don't want it

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that stands out to me, Steven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I'm aware that they've had injuries, right,

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Speaker 2: they built this team to hit a lot of homers,

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Speaker 1: you're working with as far as the picture that you're facing.

429
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Speaker 1: But right now, with how much this Braves team is struggling,

430
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: they need to take advantage of every good pitch that

431
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: they see. But of course I have that thought and

432
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: it makes even more sense when you consider the fact, Okay, yeah,

433
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: they're wanting to see what the pitcher has to throw.

434
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: They're wanting to be patient, But this team has been

435
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: what twenty seven, twenty eighth in baseball and on base

436
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: percentage since the start of May. So the philosophy of

437
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: wasting a good pitch by just seeing what the picture

438
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: can offer on the first pitch doesn't make a lot

439
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: of sense. But then on the other hand, you pointed

440
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: it out a couple of days ago, this team has

441
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: struggled so much in being able to make good contact

442
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: on balls down the middle that had That was the

443
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: key to our struggles over the past two nights. So

444
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: many pitches right down the middle that we either took

445
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: or did not place good contact on it in so

446
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: many messed opportunities. That's what I'm meaning. Also, when it

447
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: comes to layers of how bad this team is offensively,

448
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: is that you think that there's a way they could

449
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: become more successful by maybe trying to hit better pitches,

450
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, early in the count, but they can't do

451
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: anything with them. So it's kind of like, whichever way

452
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: they go, it's not going to be productive. But your

453
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: thoughts on you know, taking that first pitch, would it

454
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: make sense for the Brays maybe to be a bit

455
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: more aggressive and try to put the battom of the

456
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Speaker 1: ball a bit earlier in the count, especially on those

457
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Speaker 1: first pitches.

458
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so most studies that have been done on this

459
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: say that there's nothing good that comes from taking a strike.

460
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: So if if the pitcher throws a pitch right down

461
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: the middle on the first pitch, you're better off swinging

462
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 2: at that ball and trying to make do damage on

463
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: that pitch. Then you are going down oh one because

464
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: as you go down one oh two, offensive production drops dramatically.

465
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: So there's no there there is really no benefit to

466
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: taking a strike. There is obviously tremendous benefit in taking

467
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: pitches out of the zone. And this is again where

468
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: the team has struggled this year and the decision whether

469
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: to swing or take. They take a lot of pitches

470
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: in the zone. They swinging a lot of pitches out

471
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: of the zone. Some of that is just the makeup

472
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: of their individual hitters. They have a lot of free

473
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: swingers or Sea Michael Harris as the Albi's, you know,

474
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: Darnaul's a free swinger to ball is a free swinger

475
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: like guys who aren't known for like their their plate discipline.

476
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: You know, the Braves have accumulated quite a bit of those.

477
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: So some of that is just personnel. But you know,

478
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: typically speaking there again, there's no there's nothing good that

479
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: really comes from taking good pitches. And so the problem

480
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: with the Braves this year, as you are just articulated,

481
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: is that when they've swung at those pitches this year,

482
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: they've just done a stunning a stunning amount of damage

483
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: in terms of how little damages they've done, Like, it's

484
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: been truly remarkable how little they've done with meatball pitches

485
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: this year. There's a there's a category for that on

486
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: stat Cast. It's called pitches in the heart of the plate,

487
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: and you can go look and see exactly what teams

488
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: have done. And the Braves is just most of their

489
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 2: guys are in the negative in terms of run value

490
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: on pitches in the heart of the plate. And if

491
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: you're swinging at those pitches and you're not doing anything

492
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: with them, there's really nothing else that can be done,

493
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: because again, you don't want to take that pitch. You

494
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: don't want to go down oh one and not swing

495
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: at a pitch in the heart of the plate. So

496
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: your best bet is to swing at it and do damage.

497
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: And if you're swinging at it and just not doing

498
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: any damage, that just means you're bad. And that's been

499
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 2: the Braves problem this year, is that so many times

500
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: they swing through it or foull it off or pop

501
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: it up, and there's no there's no remedy for that,

502
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: Like that's just you have to have you have to

503
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: have your hitters do better than that, Like they just

504
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: have to do better than that, Like they are more

505
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: talented than that. Every guy in that lineup can should

506
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: be able to take a middle middle fastball and send

507
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: it to the moon, like that's what this lineup was

508
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: designed to do. And so many times this year, hanging sliders,

509
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: hanging changeups, hanging curveballs, fastballs right down the middle, they've

510
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: just done nothing with And it's a huge part of

511
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: the problem this year. You know, Austin Gomber last night,

512
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: you know, just he lived in the zone. That's why

513
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: his pitch count was solo. He was living in the

514
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: zone and the Braves just could do nothing with him.

515
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: And if guys are throwing pitches over the plate and

516
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 2: you can't do anything with it, that's that's a real problem.

517
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: And that's where the Braves are, where they're just not

518
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: even able to do damage on good hitters' pitches and

519
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: until they fixed that, it's gonna be like this where

520
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: it's just it seems like they're getting mowed down by

521
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: average blow average pitchers because they're getting a bunch of

522
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: opportunities in the zone to do damage and they're not

523
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: doing it. And until that, until that changes, this is

524
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: what we're going to get.

525
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: And the fact that we are now coming up on,

526
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, four months of really not seeing it change,

527
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that it's going to change this year.

528
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: And I don't mean for this to turn into a

529
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: rant or to be repetitive, you know, in terms of

530
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: us talking about the offense, but that's that's what it's been.

531
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Speaker 1: It's just the fact that there are so many times

532
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: when there's a brave at the plate that it's just

533
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: it's a no win situation. It seems whatever approach that

534
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: they're looking to use to try to be successful, it's

535
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: not there. And what that's simple The truth that that

536
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: simply means is Stephen for me, is that unless we're

537
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: putting the ball out of the ballpark, it's very hard

538
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: to have faith in this team having the offense it

539
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: needs to be able to consistently win games. And again,

540
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, multiple times as well. You're now have

541
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: no choice but to you either are going to put

542
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: the ball out of the ballpark, You're gonna have to

543
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: figure out how to get on base, or you're going

544
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: to have to figure out how to be productive with

545
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: runners in scoring position. At least one of those three

546
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: things have to occur for you to be able to

547
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: win games. If you don't do that, with how the

548
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Mets are playing, it's going to be hard to see

549
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: it even being able to make the playoffs. And if

550
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: you do, it's going to be even harder to trust

551
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: our offense to be able to be successful in the playoffs. So,

552
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: you know, I've said what I could say, and it

553
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: is a frustrating thing to see just with the lack

554
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: of consistent at bats that we can put at the plate.

555
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: But what it just comes down to me is that

556
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: if we're not putting the ball out of the ballpark,

557
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: it's going to be very hard to see this offense

558
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: consistently playing at the level that it needs to to win,

559
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: at the level that it needs to to not only

560
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, but be successful there.

561
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

562
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean again, they've they've kind of just become the

563
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: Mariners where they have to, you know, they have to

564
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: outpitch everybody to win games. And that game we saw tonight,

565
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: that game we saw last night, that the Braves will

566
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: played that exact game on offense in ninety percent of

567
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: their games this year, where they score one, two or

568
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: three runs early in the game and whether they win

569
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: or lose depends on how well they pitch. And that

570
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: exact game has played out eighty five ninety percent of

571
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: the time this year, and the pitching has been so

572
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: good that the Braves are actually currently in, you know,

573
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 2: in the playoff hunt and they have more wins than

574
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: they have losses, because that's how unbelievable the pitching has been.

575
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: Where the offense can do that over and over and

576
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: over and over again and the Braves can still have

577
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: more wins than losses, have a positive run differential being

578
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: the playoff hunt. You know, that's how good the pitching

579
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: has been. But the offense doesn't really change much. Every

580
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: once in a while, they'll go through like a three

581
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: or four game stretch where they'll score eight, seven to

582
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: eight runs a game and give some guys some breathing room.

583
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: But for the most part this year, it's been one,

584
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: two or three runs early in the game and then

585
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: hold on for dear life and hope the pitching can

586
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: get the ball, the starters can get the ball to

587
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: Jmenez and the Glaciers in the night, and those guys

588
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: have been nails all year. That has been the formula.

589
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: That exact game we watched tonight, and that exact game

590
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: we watched last night. That has been most of the

591
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: games we've watched on offense all year. It's just come

592
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: down to how good the pitching's been, and the pitching

593
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: has been unbelievable, which is why the Bridges are where

594
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: they are. So my guess is for the next three

595
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: weeks we're gonna see the exact same thing. We're gonna

596
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: see that game on offense that we've seen all year long,

597
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: and the Braves are gonna win or lose based on

598
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: how unbelievable their pitching is. And if the pitching falters

599
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: at all, then the Braves are screwed. And if the

600
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: pitching holds the line and maintains it, then they got

601
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: a shot. If the Mets maybe lose a game at

602
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: some point, that would help. But yeah, I'm done kind

603
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: of expecting something different at this point. My expectation is

604
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: that exact same game we've seen on offense all year

605
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: will be the exact same game we see for the

606
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: rest of the year, and the winner loss is gonna

607
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: come down to how great the pitching is.

608
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's known. I don't think that

609
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: there's any other source that knows this more than the

610
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: team itself. But what I will say is this is

611
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: that it is going to be incredibly frustrating to see

612
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: how awesome, consistent, and historic this pitching staff has been

613
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: and it winds up not truly getting the chance to

614
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: shine in October. If we wind up not making the

615
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: playoffs due to our offense, not trying to put a

616
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: bad omen or anything. I still feel confident that we'll

617
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: figure it out and we'll make the playoffs. But I

618
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: just I really hope that outcome does not occur. But Stephen,

619
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 1: we talk about, you know, other things that we're hoping,

620
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, continues to not occur. But yet it does,

621
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: and that is the Braves unfortunately continuing to deal with injuries,

622
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: and this time it's with Mirrifield who's dealt with it.

623
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: I know that you and Scott talked about, you know,

624
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: the really scary situation that happened earlier this week where

625
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: you know whit Marrifield got hit by the you know,

626
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: fastball in the head, and I agree with you, it

627
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: looks like he got hit a good part of the

628
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: ball hit his actual head instead of the helmet. But

629
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: on Friday night he's back in the lineup, and of

630
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: course he fels a ball off his foot. Now it

631
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: was reported after the game, reported about an hour ago

632
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: that X rays were negative, but he's going to get

633
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: a CT scan. You're likely going to see him out

634
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: of the lineup. But not only that, when it comes

635
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: to you the second base position, we also got news today.

636
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: We had gotten you know what we thought may have

637
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: been a little bit of a positive update on Ozzi Alby's,

638
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: but not necessarily. But if you combine the update from

639
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: earlier this week with the update on Friday that Ozzi

640
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: Alby's is continuing to struggle. He's still not feeling great

641
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: swinging from the left side. He's feeling just fine swinging

642
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: from the right side. That's not the most encouraging update.

643
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: So now, when you talk about your second base position,

644
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: and when you talk about players in Nazzi Alby's, when

645
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: he's in the lineup and Merrifield is his replacement, who

646
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: have been catalysts for this team at times this year.

647
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: When you talk about the fact that now you could

648
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: be without both of them, you're having to do with

649
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Luke Williams at second base. We're back once again to

650
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: the same thing that we were with the outfeld earlier

651
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: this year. Replacement level players who it's hard to look

652
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: at them as any more of than an automatic out

653
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: for the break. You have to hope that at some

654
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: point Ozzy Albu's hopefully comes back late in September, but

655
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: before that occurs, you hope everything checks out with Mirrorfield,

656
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: or you're back to having a spot in your lineup

657
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: that teams are gonna target. I think because they feel

658
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an automatic out.

659
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, wit wit just can't get

660
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 2: to break. I mean, no pun intended, but yeah, he

661
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: he filed a ball off I did. I was watching

662
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: the game live. I didn't actually notice it happened when

663
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: it when it happened, and just kind of the you know,

664
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: next time he came up, Luke Williams was standing there

665
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: and everybody just kind of realized he was out. Of

666
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: the game, and yeah, it's good that it wasn't fractured,

667
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: but you know, with the Braves luck, I'm guessing he's

668
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: still gonna miss a few games. Now. We got Luke

669
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: Williams playing second. I don't know what they're gonna do.

670
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if Nacho Alvarez is gonna

671
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: come back up. I don't know. I don't know what

672
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna do, quite honestly, but yeah, just par for

673
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: the course for this year. You know. The Ozzie news

674
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: is interesting because it came out today that he's swinging

675
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: pretty well and feels pretty comfortable swinging right handed, but

676
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't have any comforter. He doesn't. It's not it

677
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: doesn't feel good yet to swing left handed. And Mark Bowman,

678
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: a friend of the show. Mark Bowman of MLB dot Com,

679
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: actually asked Snit if there was any chance that Ozzie

680
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: would just come back and bat right handed only, and

681
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Snit said that that's up to the player, which I

682
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: thought was an interesting call. I mean, the team would

683
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: be okay with it if if Ozzie was okay with it,

684
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's going to happen. You know,

685
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: the the update today. You know, if they are waiting

686
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: on him to be able to hit from both sides

687
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: of the plate, then the updated update today was not

688
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: a good one because it didn't sound like he's anywhere

689
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: close to you know, if he still can't even take

690
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: batting practice from the left side, then he's not really

691
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: close to being able to go out on a rehab assignment.

692
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: And if he's not close to being able to go

693
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: out on a rehab assignment, then he's not close to

694
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: coming back. And again we're at you know, we're in

695
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: approaching the middle of September very rapidly here, so he's

696
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: running out of days and that's going to be interesting

697
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: to see what happens, especially if Mayfield is out for

698
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: an extended period. You know, if I'm Ozzie, you know,

699
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: I've I've I've tweeted this out a bunch of times

700
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: over the year that I would be interested see what

701
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Ozzie look like if he just batted right handed, because

702
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: he is so like unbelievably, it is crazy how much

703
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: better of a right handed hitter he is than a

704
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: left handed hitter. And obviously this has been a topic

705
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: of conversation and brave Twitter for years now. You know

706
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: what would happen if he had a whole season of

707
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: just right handed hitting. And if he comes back and

708
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: he's and he's just batting right handed, that would be fascinating.

709
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: That'd be a fun little, you know, mini experiment to

710
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: see how it goes. But if they're gonna wait until

711
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: he's comfortable from both sides, he might not be back

712
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: this year. And you know, you and I talked about

713
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: that when he first got hurt at wrist. Injuries or

714
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: are very very tricky, and it doesn't matter what the

715
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: timetable is, they don't always come true. It's very possible

716
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't come back if if that's what they're waiting for.

717
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be interesting to see. You know, we

718
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: gotta wait and see what's gonna go what's going on

719
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: with wit. But yeah, I would you know, I would

720
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: go get your Luke Williams jersey because I'm guessing we're

721
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: going to see a decent amount of him at second

722
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: for the next couple of days.

723
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: And to anyone that you know is hearing about, you

724
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: know this idea of Ozzie batting exclusively right handed, who

725
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: may think to yourself, you know this late into a

726
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: season coming back from an injury. You know, it's rarely

727
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: rarely seen that a hitter would make that drastic of

728
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: a change to their hitting approach. And in most cases

729
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I agree with you. But if you go back, I

730
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: believe two or three years, I want to say it

731
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: was it was twenty twenty two, maybe twenty twenty two.

732
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, Ozzie Albi's has experimented a bit. There was

733
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: a couple of bats I believe it was against a

734
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: specific reliever for the Nationals. Can't think of the guy

735
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: at the pitcher's name, but he had a specific off

736
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: speed set, a breaking ball set that he threw that

737
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: Ozzie felt that it was better to bat against right

738
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: handed and I even think Ozzie got a hit off

739
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: of him doing it. But Ozzie has right handed against

740
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: right handed pitching before. It's only been two or three

741
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: at bats, but he's done it before, so hey, maybe

742
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: that's a possibility. And if your Ozzy Alby's, what do

743
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: you have to lose, come back play see if you

744
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: can help the offense out. It's not like they can't

745
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: get better with you in the lineup. But one thing

746
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: that does get better, Steven is that the Braves continue

747
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: to throw out every single night a pitcher that you're

748
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: confident in getting them to win. And the rest of

749
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: this series is going to be Spencer Swellenbach and then

750
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: Chris sail on the mound on Sunday and Stephen you,

751
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean you have talked about it, Scott, and you

752
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: talked about it on Wednesday. This team once again needs

753
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: to get gritty, gritty. This is not a situation where

754
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: you didn't get the job done on Thursday night against Colorado.

755
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: In this weep, you need to sweep Toronto. You badly

756
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: need to sweep Toronto because next week it's gonna be

757
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: pretty tough. You've got the Nationals, who you've not played

758
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: well against this year. The Reds gave you a tough

759
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: matchup earlier this year. And then, oh, by the way,

760
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: the end of next week, you've got the Dodgers. Now,

761
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: now a good amount of that is in Atlanta, but

762
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to get a couple with

763
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: sweeps against these weaker teams, especially with how the Mets

764
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: are playing. The Braves offense needs to come alive and

765
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: alive soon. It's good ho they've got on the mound,

766
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: but the attention turns to the lineup, and I repeatedly

767
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: say this, It especially turns to the lineup getting the

768
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: job done early in games to get their starters to lead.

769
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not only their starters, but like we

770
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: gotta save I mean, we're gonna kill Joejamenez and Rossie

771
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: Iglesias by playing all these three to one games and

772
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: two to one games and one to three game. Like,

773
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, the back end of the bullpen has been

774
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: unbelievable this year, but they have been used and abused

775
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: over and over again because the offense can't score. And

776
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's an underappreciated part of off you know,

777
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: the best, the best friend a bullpen has is a

778
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: good offense because it's you know, it's free nights off.

779
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: You know, when you score seven or eight runs and

780
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: a bunch of low leverage guys can finish the game

781
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: out and it's a free night off with the high

782
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: leverage guys. So yeah, I mean, it would just be

783
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked to we've said it so many

784
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: times this year. It's it's the words are losing meaning.

785
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: But if the offense could just possibly come out and

786
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: score like five or six runs, you know, hell, maybe

787
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: even like eight or nine run like that's that's allowed.

788
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: That that is legal. You are allowed to score like

789
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: eight or nine runs in a game, despite what it

790
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: might look like if you're a Brace fan this year,

791
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: like that, there's no rule against it.

792
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: They did it. They did it. What two weeks ago,

793
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: they scored nine runs in two innings. They're fully capable

794
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: of doing it.

795
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: They just didn't do it.

796
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: It was a it was a miracle from God, but

797
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: it did happen. And if if God wants to bless

798
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: us with another miracle, that would be tremendous. But yeah,

799
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: if they could just possibly give this rotation in this

800
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: bullpen some breathing room and maybe even knock out a

801
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: few easy wins and maybe get some momentum going, and

802
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: you know, the Mets are going to lose a game

803
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: at some point. They're probably not gonna go thirty and

804
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: oh the rest of the way, even though they've won

805
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: eight straight and the hottest team in baseball. You know

806
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: a lot of times the team that gets hot at

807
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: the end of August is not necessarily the team that's

808
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: hot in at the end of September. So you know,

809
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: they might have peaked too early. But you just gotta

810
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: you gotta, you gotta win the games against bad teams,

811
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: and they they've flubbed a big chance to do it

812
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 2: against Colorado last night. This is a bad Toronto team.

813
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: They've kind of given up for the season. You've got

814
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: everything to play for. You're in a dog fight for

815
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: the division or for the wild card. Yeah, go out

816
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: and win these games because, like you said, it's gonna

817
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: get tougher. The Dodgers are coming to town next weekend.

818
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: You know, they go to Cincinnati where they have not

819
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: had success. You know it is gonna get tougher. So

820
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta win these games where it's it's

821
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: at home against not a great team. And you know,

822
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: like you said, Swamba con sale on the mound the

823
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: next two nights. You feel good about that. But the

824
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: offense has got to show up at some point.

825
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: And we'll certainly be here to cover it, you know,

826
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: and when it does, and you know what, if it doesn't,

827
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: we'll be right here to talk about it. Once again.

828
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: That's the joy of doing this with Steven, Brad and Scott.

829
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Every chance that we get, whether it's this team playing

830
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: like a potential World Series contender or this team unfortunately

831
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: struggling like one of the worst teams in baseball. We've

832
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: seen both versions of this team. We've seen both of

833
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: those versions of this team multiple times this season. Hopefully

834
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: it's the former here soon. If our offense can just

835
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: support our pitching for a week or two, I really

836
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: think you could see us, you know, secure that final

837
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: spot in the wild card and be in a good

838
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: position when it comes to the playoffs. Stephen, he got

839
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: anything for us? As we wrap up this edition of

840
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory podcast heading into the weekend.

841
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: No, I will say this because I just saw it

842
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: come across my feed, but the Diamondbacks did lose, and

843
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: that's the team. Obviously, everybody's focusing on the team behind

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: the Braids, which is the Mets, but the team right

845
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: directly ahead of the Braves is the Diamondbacks, and they

846
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: have lost a couple of games in a row now,

847
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: so you know, the Braids are kind of sneaking up

848
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: on them for that second one wild card spots. So

849
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: it is a you know, it's not just a two

850
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: man race here between the Braves and the Mets. The

851
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: Padres and the Diamondbacks are are pretty close in that race.

852
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: As well. So it's essentially four teams for three spots,

853
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it looks like it's going to

854
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: come down to the wire, and it looks like all

855
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: these teams are going to finish with pretty damn good records.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, typically that last wildcat spot eighty

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Speaker 2: four eighty five wins has been good enough to get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to be the case

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Speaker 2: this year. The Braves are already at seventy seven wins. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's still three weeks to go. I don't I doubt

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Speaker 2: eighty five wins is going to get you that third

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Speaker 2: wild card spot. It might be closer to ninety this year.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's kind of a four team you know,

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Speaker 2: for three spot race. And so, you know, if you're

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Speaker 2: a Braves fan, obviously what the Braves do matters, but

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Speaker 2: what the Mets, the Diamondbacks and the Padres do every

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Speaker 2: night matters too. So and the Diamondbacks just lost, so

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Speaker 2: that is noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So at the end of the day, we can

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Speaker 1: talk about you know, a Scott mentioned it the other night,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether it's one to nothing or eighteen to nothing,

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Speaker 1: and whether it's you know, the offense hit nine home

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Speaker 1: runs or there. It's a perfect game over nine innings.

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Speaker 1: A win is a win is a win, and that's

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Speaker 1: all the Braves need to do. I would love for

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Speaker 1: it to be with more margin of ra than the

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Speaker 1: pitching haveing to be dominant every single night, but just

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Speaker 1: get wins, and especially against teams that you should beat

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Speaker 1: the Braves. The reason why the Braves are in this position,

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Speaker 1: as admit, I think each and every one of us

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Speaker 1: on Hammer Territory have said this year is because of

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Speaker 1: how much we've struggled against teams that we should beat

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Speaker 1: all year long. If there's one thing that we can do,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it's because of the offense, it's getting back

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Speaker 1: to beating teams that we should and hopefully that'll continue

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Speaker 1: this weekend. But for Steven Tolbart at be Underscore Outliers

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